Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1629 -Skyler and Her Husband Started Swinging, Playing Solo & Then Things Went Wrong
Episode Date: October 19, 2026Skyler and her husband opened up their marriage but things went very wrong, and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when her husband told her he wante...d to see her with another guy and how that led to them visiting a sex dungeon, the guy she met online and why she started a "relationship" with him, the first couple they swapped with and exactly what went down, how and why she started meeting up with another guy solo and what went down, the unicorn she passed along to her husband and why she didn't participate, why her husband joined Ashley Madison and how he started getting close to another woman, how and why she wound up hooking up with a guy she met on Ashley Madison, how she found out her husband was in love with the other woman and how the woman reacted when confronted, how they managed to get past it and continued playing with others, the new rules they put in place, the next couple swap they had and what went down, the couple swap with a cop and what happened, the next couple they hooked up with in separate rooms and why it bothered her, the cuckold couple they met and how they cucked the husband, the sex dungeon they built in their house, how and why she's now a 32G, plus a whole lot more. Her Fetlife: DickandMoans GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To see HOT pics of SKYLAR plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join ANNUALLY, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://inda.shop/STRICTLY If you’re 21 or older, get 30% OFF your first order @IndaCloud with code STRICTLY #indacloud https://VB.HEALTH- To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST by VB Health, use code: STRICTLY https://bluechew.com — Buy 2 months of Bluechew GOLD and get the third month FREE! + 10% OFF first order, Use code: STRICTLYANON http://DipseaStories.com/STRICTLYANON — Get first week FREE then 25% off https://beducate.me/anonymous — Take the quiz and then use code ANONYMOUS for 50% off Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ X https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else: https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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skyler at first i was like oh my god it's like her email said like sex dungeons uh swinging
polyamory and cuck-cleaning in her thing and i was like oh my god that crazy shit in her story
but like it got even crazier because uh when she started telling me the story and she started telling me
know how they went to a sex dungeon and how they started swinging. And then they got into like a little
bit of solo play, her with some guy, because she was on only fans and then her guy with another woman.
And then I got really fucking messy. And I'm like, I don't know that this is necessarily polyamory.
Might be cheating. It was cheating, actually. And there was so much more to her story.
Like you wouldn't believe like sort of what went down and how it went down. You definitely see in
hindsight. And they do too, like the mistakes that were made.
by them, you know, and you see why they wound up where they were.
It's a lot easier to see that, like, when you're looking at the story as a third person
after the fact, you know, obviously they didn't go into anything that they were doing,
knowing that it would go awry.
But there's a couple times where things kind of went awry, and it's interesting.
But they stayed together through it all.
And that's also very interesting.
I give her guy credit.
He, you know, in the beginning kind of sounds like a douchebag, but he does redeem himself
at the end. You got to listen to the whole story to get the whole story. But they have a lot of
naughty stories like weaved into the drama. Okay, there's more actually naughty stories of what
they've done. They've talked up with couples. She loves a unicorn and to see a girl with her husband.
She loves being a cuck queen now. They have done couple swaps. She has played with guy solo.
He has played with women solo. She has videotaping. She was on only fans. I forgot to ask her if
she's still on only fans. If she is, I'm going to put the link in the
description, okay? So you could see all that. But anyway, I'm going to get right to it. I have
hot picks of her over my Patreon. But anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Skyler.
This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast.
Hi, Skyler. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you this morning?
I'm good. Thanks, Kathy. Thanks for having me on.
Thanks for coming on. Like, I got to say, you did your description exactly like I like it.
Literally, I'm going to read it, exactly like you read it. Sex Dungeons.
swinging threesome, polyamory, and now being a cook queen. That's all I need to know. You write that
shit to me and you're like, oh, come on the show. I don't want to know anything else because I'm
going to hear all the details, just like everybody else for the first time, right? The less I know,
the better. I love something that ends with a cook queen because everyone knows I'm a secret
cut queen, but I've never lived out my fantasy, so I'm like living vicariously through you. But let's
start with like where you're at now, Skyler. Like, are you married or you partnered up?
Like, are you in a polyamory relationship with three people?
I don't know.
Nope.
So no more polyamory.
Oh, well, can't we?
We're going to go through that story because I like a polyamory story gone wrong.
Go on.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I've actually been with my husband for 17 years.
We've been married for 13.
Mm-hmm.
So together for a long time.
First marriages for the both of you guys?
Yep.
Okay, great.
And now, you know, were you guys like going in a little very old?
very open, like were you very vanilla and then switched it up. And then you tell me like which
came first out of the whole list you gave me. Oh yeah. So I was very vanilla. I was very loyal.
Never ever daydreamed about sleeping with anyone else. Never thought of anyone else while you were
betting your husband. Never. Nope. Nope. I'm pretty, pretty faithful.
Yeah. Even in your, even in your private thoughts you are.
Even, so two and a half years ago, I was pregnant.
and that's actually when it all started.
You're kidding why you were just so horny from the hormones.
Yeah.
And, you know, I kind of thought about that with my first pregnancy, how I wanted to do OnlyFans,
just because I thought it would be kind of cool to see how the pregnancy fetish is.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I talked to my husband about it.
I said, how would you feel if I did OnlyFans?
He's like, I think that would be a great idea.
I was like, oh, so he actually got me a laptop, got me a VPN.
I had a burner phone.
I was like all set to go.
So got that all set up.
It took about two months.
And I started advertising myself on Reddit.
And I actually met a guy on there that I had a two-year online relationship with.
Online.
Never met in person.
Never met in person.
He was married.
He was very well endowed.
I call him Big Dick or Beattie.
I like that.
Big Dick.
He's huge.
I had a big dick neck, but it just so happened to rhyme.
you know
about his name wasn't next so you had a big dick
and talk to me like it talked to me like
about how that relationship progressed to be
something that you called a relationship
you know what I mean? Did it eventually go from like oh he's paying you for customs
to you're just like talking to him now all the time? I don't know or did he always pay you
through only fans was a only fan's relationship or real relationship?
It's funny he never paid me for only fans like he could not
have an only fans and because he was so big he would advertise himself.
Reddit and get other guys to pay for an only fans for his subscription. So he would have no
information on that. Wait a second. But he would go in through those other guys that counts,
is what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Were they mesmerized by his dick too?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So it turns into something. Yeah. He actually made so much money online.
Eventually it turned into like we were just talking every day his friends and it was always sexual, you know,
It was never
I don't know. I feel like I'm a cat.
Like I don't fall in love with people.
So I just found it sexually appealing
that he would send me videos and pictures every day
and make me feel good.
And eventually he liked getting attention online
and would want to spend money on me.
He gave me over $10,000 worth of gifts
that he had made just by showing people his dick.
So how, oh, right.
So somehow he's like laundering that money
that his wife's not seeing it, like he's pulling it in from a place that his wife doesn't know about it,
and then sending it to a place that his wife doesn't know about. So that's how she doesn't know about it.
Exactly. Interesting. Can you believe the shit's going down behind people's backs? I mean,
women do it to guys too. I mean, I'm not saying it's just mad. You know what I mean? I'm not one of those.
But it's like, I mean, his poor wife, because this is like his wife is not in the know at all, right?
What was his story about why he does this behind his wife's back?
she's not
I don't think she appreciated his size very much
plus I don't know if they were more like roommates
or how that whole dynamic was
he didn't talk about her too much
but yeah I mean I think he just knew how big he was
he did camming when he was a teenager because he was so big
and I think he just likes the attention
right so what would you
so and your husband knows though that you're hooking up
with the sky like what are you guys sexting camming is a video
Like, how, what did you guys do together for two years online?
In the beginning, it was only strictly online.
Like, no video chats, nothing.
It was just back and forth texting.
And it was a daily thing.
And then my husband, I think he was a little jealous of it.
He said he was fine.
But, you know, I let him have my phone so he could read everything whenever he wanted to.
Right.
Okay.
But what did you see, like, why do you say you thought he eventually got like a little jealous?
Well, it goes into one of our downfalls in the whole lifestyle.
Let's go there.
I like a good gone wrong story.
It helps other people.
So, well, let me say, so it's kind of in the middle of the whole story.
All right.
You want to stay in chronological order.
We'll get them.
So I'm on OF.
I'm talking to this guy.
Then I think my husband bought me a big toy.
And so I kind of started talking about how I met this guy in high school and we were going to hook up.
And then I saw how big he was.
And I was like, I just know it's a one night's stand.
So I'm totally not doing it because you're going to ruin me for everyone else.
So my husband was like, oh my gosh, like that totally turns me on.
I want to see you with another guy.
And I was like, really?
Like I never thought about that.
And he's like, well, maybe it could turn into something like swinging or, you know, polyamory, something like that.
And with my pregnancy hormones, once again, I started.
started thinking about it. I was like, this sounds actually pretty cool. So, I mean, we had these
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So you're all over the apps.
And you guys are looking, though, just for a guy, right?
Like, that's what you're bringing into the...
At that point, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, go on.
And so we had fantasized for like six months.
I wanted to make sure that I had a baby and I wanted to lose a little bit of baby weight
before we started playing.
I'd have more confidence.
And we actually, when I was pregnant, we went to a sex dungeon.
So that was a first for both of us.
What led you there?
That just those conversations and like maybe one of the websites told you there was a dungeon
in your neighborhood?
I think it might have, we might have discovered it on Fetlight so that there was one close by.
Right.
And we had always been into BDSM.
That's actually how I got pregnant this last time anyway.
Okay.
We'll get there.
So we went to the sex dungeon.
I'm like eight months pregnant, so everyone's looking at me like, why are you in here?
We're just, you know, being four years and watching.
And it was so fascinating because there were so many different scenes going on.
It's this big, huge open area, and there's different.
There's like the cross.
There's people doing rope play.
There was this guy.
And I mean, we've been to the sex dungeon like three or four times.
And there's always this older guy.
I don't know if he's in his 60s and he's like little petite, but he is hung, like huge.
And he's always with a young dominatrix.
And he'll be tied up naked and this dominatrix will just be flogging his dick the whole time.
That was interesting.
And then there was another one where this guy was in like a full body suit.
So you couldn't see his face, couldn't see anything.
And it was almost like a rubber suit or something.
Yeah, I've seen that like latex.
Yeah, yeah. And he had a professional dominatrix with him. And she had like this big massage table that she strapped him to so he couldn't move. And she ripped open his pants, got him hard. And then I think we were there for like three hours. And she was literally edging him for three hours and was still doing it when we left. Can you believe what some people are into?
I know. Three hours. I've heard of longer, right? But you didn't do anything while you were there just like sort of were.
No, just, yeah, just looking to see what was going on.
And it was a very popular night.
There were a lot of scenes going on.
So then after that, we got scheduled with our first couple.
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Everyone, it's a free-for-all?
Yep.
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So it just seemed like
Because obviously we were new to it
We had told them they were more experienced
But I think they were trying to make us more comfortable
So we ended up sitting in our living room
Talking for like three to four hours
Oh my god nobody pulled
Nobody got the party started
No, so it's like 11 o'clock
Okay
And I have a newborn by the way
So I'm like exhausted
But finally, the guys decide to switch couches and then things just start, you know, progressing.
And I don't remember too many of the details.
I know it was a really good first experience.
You know, my husband and I found out like things that we liked, what we didn't like.
We knew that the chemistry wasn't really great with them.
So we knew that we didn't want to play again.
But I don't think they were even out of our driveway before my husband and I were like all over each other.
Like the reclaiming sex?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Amazing.
And both of you were like down, like you saw him with a woman, he saw you with a guy, and both of you were like, we know he was into it.
I mean, that's when you start to realize you love that vision too.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Yep.
Yeah, it was amazing.
And I swear the reclaiming sex lasted at least 24 hours.
I've heard it last longer than that.
You know what I mean?
Like that, you could get off on the thoughts and what you did for a long time sometimes.
Yeah.
So yeah, it was fun.
And then we ended up meeting a single guy through SDC.
and he was European.
And we ended up meeting just for drinks just to see how things would go.
And things went really well.
So we ended up just going to the hotel.
And you could tell he was really nervous because he'd never done it before.
So that was kind of exciting to me.
Mind you, my husband's more dominant and I'm more submissive in a way.
Yeah.
So, you know, my husband have prepped me like, hey, you need to be in charge of the whole thing.
He's like, I'll help you along, but you need to, you know,
initiate things. So I was like, okay. So I had that in my head and we get into the hotel room.
And I know I was wearing a dress. And so I just went over, sat in the middle of the bed and padded both
sides of me for them to come sit down on either side of me. And then I started, you know, rubbing their
cocks on the outside of their pants, getting them hard. And then once they wear hard, I took off
their pants. And I think I started sucking the single guy's cock first.
And then I was rubbing my husband at the same time.
And things just progressed, started doing spit roasting.
And I just remember I enjoyed playing with this guy so much just because he's so vocal.
And he would tell me how good everything felt, especially when I was sucking him off.
So the first round, I believe my husband was fucking me from behind.
And I was sucking this guy's cock.
And he had asked me, he's like, can I?
I just, you know, can I finish while I'm fucking you? And I said, sure. But I was bound and determined
to get him off with my mouth. Right. And so I think it's surprised. Because that's like a thing you like?
I do. I do enjoy giving head. So I think he was surprised when he came in my mouth. And because he did that,
my husband got super turned on and came inside me at the same time. So that was super hot. Okay. And so everyone's
having fun. This is like your first time doing all of this. This is my first ever.
this is a threesome. Yeah. So I think we took like a half hour break and we just sat and talked. And then after that we had another round.
Did the same thing. And that was actually really enjoyable. He was such a gentleman. You know, he was really respectful toward my husband.
Right. And everyone's happy. Yeah. So then I think I met up with him on a separate occasion. He had it in his head that it was going to be a threesome. And my husband told me to surprise him with just me.
Because he felt comfortable enough with this guy that I could go off with him by myself.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Interesting.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
In your house by yourself or out in your car, go someplace and meet him outside
wherever?
Yeah.
I was meeting him at the exact same hotel that we were going to or that we were at the last time.
And now let me ask you this.
Do you know why your guy was into that?
Was he just busy that day and he just wanted you to hook up so he's like just to do it
without me?
Was that a part of his little kink fantasy, that little angst up waiting at home?
more, like, what was the reason for him going go solo today, like right up to that first
experience? Do you know? I think it was more exciting. I think he wanted to see how it went. Yeah,
yeah. And he thought he might have had jealousy the first time, you know, he saw me with another guy
and he's like, no, I'm totally okay with it. And there's a little jealousy goes a long way sometimes
for these people too, by the way. You know what I mean? It's like a little, a little angst is,
is hot, you know, some people like that. Okay. So you go solo. So, yeah, so I meet him in this
parking lot at this big hotel, okay? And so he is a gentleman, meets me at my car. I have this whole
bag of stuff. So he carries that for me. I've got my arm linked in his. And this is in a completely
different state than I used to live in. Okay. And we're walking in the doors and it's like a
conference scout out or something. And I happen to see one of my old coworkers. Oh my God. And she just
looks at me and I'm like, no, she can't recognize me. So I just keep walking and I turn around and look. And
she is just stopped and looking at me with her mouth hanging open.
Like, what are you doing?
And I started laughing.
So I was like, well, she doesn't know who my husband is.
You know, like, she's not going to know who this guy is.
And then I realized, oh, my God, social media.
Yes, she does.
Oh, my God.
I was like, well, I just got busted.
So luckily, I never heard anything else from that.
Yeah, she probably talked about it for five minutes and went back to her thinking about
herself.
That's what everyone does.
Go on.
Thankfully, yeah.
Yeah.
I know. So then, you know, he and I had a drink and we hooked up and it was a lot of fun.
I actually recorded the entire session.
Oh, for your husband. So that was a part of it. That's what he was getting out of it.
Yes. Okay. I had, yep. So I had that all recorded. He got that.
So yeah, after the single guy, we did another couple swap. And then.
But like when your husband came home, there was no jealous. He was just totally into the whole thing, right? And he watched the video and all was good, right?
Yep. Yeah. He was turned on. And he was turned on. And he was.
wanted to reclaim me. So yeah, it was great. Awesome. We had another couple swap. And then we started
talking to a unicorn. And I think right after I had video chatted her, there was an unexpected
deaths in the family. So that hit me pretty hard. And I lost my sex drive completely. Like I told my
husband, I don't even want to be in the lifestyle anymore. He's like, wait. Wait, wait. Hang on.
No, no, I need to know why this hit you so hard.
Was this a friend of you?
It was, it was someone that was super close to me.
Oh.
And it was, it was hard.
It was not expected at all.
So you knew this person that passed.
It was a family member that died.
Your family member.
And then, yes, my family member.
Oh, okay, but how is that?
Okay, I'm a little confused.
You said we had a unicorn.
Oh, so the death isn't with the unit.
I thought the death was on the unicorn side.
It was like, you had a death in your life.
Right. So I was starting to talk to her.
Yeah.
And then literally the next day my family member died.
And then I told my husband I didn't want to do anything, but he's like, well, what about me?
So I was like, you know what? I'm totally fine if you, you know, find someone to play with because I am just not, I'm not in the right head space for this at all.
So I ended up having a date with this unicorn for me to meet her.
And she's like, are you sure you're okay with it? You know, I can't imagine being in.
your shoes. I was like, no, it's totally cool. Like, you're a cool person. Like, just check in with me
every once in a while. And I told her, there are three rules, which were like, no falling in love,
no saying I love you. Pandoms are necessary. And no overnights. Like, you cannot stay overnight.
But can I just ask you a real question? Because I just want to, like, I'm just thinking your husband's like an
idiot at this point. Like, I don't know. I think it's like, you're, you literally have like a death in
your family and you're like devastated. And literally that same day, he's like, well, I'm,
I still want to meet her, like, can I?
Like, he didn't even wait like two weeks, three weeks.
Like, I mean, it's like that same day.
He's like, I don't want to ruin my chances of this unicorn.
Can I go fuck her?
And you just like are like, okay.
That's really good.
In hindsight, like, we're both like, oh my God, that was so stupid.
So he even sees it as like, what the fuck was wrong with me?
Yes.
Okay.
Now, yeah.
Because I'm a little bit like, that's a little fucked up.
I'm sorry to say.
I think because of going into the lifestyle, he was just like, woohoo.
Like I get to experience things I never got to before and he just took it around.
No, I don't know.
Maybe he was like in, uh, he was, it took him a little bit to get to the place where he had
feelings about this death and like at that point he hadn't because it was like right away.
You know, everyone processes things differently.
I just think it's like kind of fucked up that like the day that you're mourning.
You know what I mean?
He's like, well, what about me?
It just sounds crazy, you know.
Too soon.
They would say too soon.
But, too soon.
The problem with me, too, is that I'm a people pleaser.
Obviously.
Because I wasn't able to do that.
I wanted him to be happy.
Yeah, he's lucky.
And maybe he knew that about you.
So he's like, well, what about me?
Nobody would have said that to me because I would have been like, go fuck yourself.
But no, so it went really well.
They ended up having a date.
They went to the sex dungeon and they kept me posted on everything.
and I wasn't jealous one bit.
Like everything was great.
She ended up texting me making sure I was okay.
And then I think like a couple weeks later, we ended up having a threesome with her.
She came to our house and it was all great.
But, you know, there really wasn't any chemistry between them where it would be like a long-term thing.
Okay.
But I really liked her because she had so much respect.
And she knew not to cross boundaries, you know?
Mm-hmm.
But it just didn't work out.
So he ended up wanting to go on Ashley Madison.
Because he was thinking, like, if he found someone to play with who was married and wanting to cheat, like, there was no way they'd want to, you know, make it something in the love realm.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
No, a lot of people, that's the whole thing for Ashley Madison.
Like, both people have the same thing to lose.
So you know that there's not going to be problems, you know, as opposed to if you're, like, out there getting single people.
You know what I mean?
Right, right.
So he started talking to this girl, which, um, I think.
think this was like three weeks after the passing of my loved one.
So they started talking and then they went out on a couple dates and they hooked up at a hotel.
Everything was fine.
And I had told her my three rules as well.
So she was aware.
Let's see.
And so fast forward a couple months, she asked him to go on a cruise with her because she was going on a girl's trip.
And I said, sure, that's fine.
Like, I don't care.
It's whatever.
So it was like right after New Year's.
And he went on this trip.
And she was like non-existent on the whole thing because she was with her friends and it was all secret because she's married.
And so he's like, I'm so dumb.
Like, why did I even do this?
I'm like, I don't know.
You just wanted to have fun, right?
So they ended up making it work, whatever.
Well, then I think I had voiced a few concerns to him about how close they were getting and that, you know, they were texting like all day.
And he would get kind of defensive and be like, well, what about you and BD?
You guys text every day.
I was like, yeah, I guess.
Oh, right, because we forget that all that, because we forget that all this time, right?
That guy is still around.
You're still in a, you named it this a relationship with him.
Yes.
Okay.
So, you know, he would put that back on me.
So I was like, okay, yeah, you have a point.
Yeah.
So I'm not going to fight you.
And, you know, I could tell things we're getting a little, you know, close with them.
and he wouldn't admit it.
Oh my God.
And he wouldn't talk to me about it.
He would get so defensive.
So I was like, well, I guess the only way to make you see how I feel is to do the same
to same thing to you, which was so immature.
Well, I don't mind that.
That's how I was when I was younger.
If you don't fucking listen to me 80,000 times, then I'll just do what you're doing to me
10 times worse and then you'll fucking get it.
Okay, sometimes.
I don't think that that's a bad tactic.
What else are you going to do?
You're saying shit to him.
Sorry, I still don't even think it's immature.
I think.
What are you supposed to do?
go on yeah so i met this guy on ashley madison who was married and hiding from his wife and you know
i found that when a guy says like oh yeah i'm such a gentleman no no they are not you have to tell
yourself that you're not but anyways i met him for dinner and it's just one of those things where
he would like run off to the table and i'm still you know walking behind him but wait your husband
though knows right i have to tell my son his food is here yeah he knows about the guy correct
Yep. So then we have dinner and we decide that we'll meet at the hotel, which he had booked for that night. And I think he got there before I did. And I had to stop and get gas or something silly. So he didn't even come out to walk me up to the room or anything, which is fine. But then, you know, we hook up and everything. And I realized there's absolutely no chemistry. And I ended up like blurting out that I was trying to get back in my husband. So that didn't help. And then he didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. He did. He
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heck? You know, I was used to the single guy who was so sweet and he made sure that he was like,
you know, making sure I was safe and that's what I'm used to because my husband does the same thing.
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But, I mean, it got the point across to my husband.
Like, he did not like him at all.
And he was super jealous.
And I know he was, like, complaining to his, call her his girlfriend,
um, about the whole thing.
And it still didn't really get the point across.
And then I started getting more.
feelings of something else going on between them.
And I believe it was like the day after Valentine's Day,
I found out that they had fallen in love and they were saying,
I love you.
And I saw all the text messages.
And so I confronted him and I confronted her.
And then she got all defensive.
What was her defense?
What was her defense?
She was like, well, you did it to yourself.
You should have known that this was going to happen.
And I was like, well, fuck.
Oh, my God.
I mean, what does that have to do with her part in things?
You don't know.
No.
So then he had to cut off everything with her.
He was livid with me.
Like he was lashing out at me for ruining it.
Oh, my.
Even worse.
And he told me that because he couldn't talk to her, I couldn't talk to BD anymore.
So I was like, fine.
So I broke it off with him.
And I think he couldn't have any contact with her.
She ended up finding out where he works.
and wrote to one of the locations, not to the location,
she sent him a letter specifically,
but to one of his work locations.
About what?
Like just a letter to him or to his boss?
No, to my husband.
Saying that she misses him that he needs to leave me for her
and she's going to get a divorce and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, oh, my gosh.
And he, you know, he was up front with everything
and he would tell me when she would try to reach out somehow
and show me the letter.
I mean, she's lucky you guys, you didn't go, you weren't a crazy bitch and went and like, said shit to her husband.
Because some people would, you know, I mean, I wouldn't have done that either, but some people would have.
And so she was like pretty bold.
Oh, yeah.
Pissing you off because you could have been very revengeful and then went and snitched on her because her husband had no idea what was going on.
Oh, no.
No.
And I mean, I had his contact information because I did some digging.
That's what I do.
And I had nudes of her that were specific to her, obviously.
Yeah.
So I could have at some point.
If she pissed me off enough, I would have done something.
I never did.
Yeah, well, I don't think, I don't think so because how much more could, what more could she
have done that would have pissed you off?
Except maybe get pregnant by him.
I mean, she had done the worst thing imaginable.
You're just not, it's just not in your nature.
It's just not who you are.
Like, I wouldn't do that either.
I'm not like that.
I don't do stuff like that.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So I don't think you would have done anything.
Like, she's nothing worse than what she did to you, by the way.
Like, what happens?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that, that was just a.
whole mess and then just us trying to get back on the same page and we went through counseling,
which wasn't going well, because I think my husband at the time just didn't have the mindset
that he did something wrong. Yeah, your husband sounds a little. And, you know, I don't know how
old. You sound young to me, you know, like, when is, how old is he and you when this is all going
down? Uh, I was 35. And he was 35, too? And he was 37. Oh, okay. So he's not like in his 20. I'm thinking
he's like some selfish 20 year olds, which is normal into your 20s. Yeah, he sounds a bit
self, your husband sounds a bit selfish, you know, maybe that's just his nature. You know,
some people are a little bit more selfish than others. And typically, people pleasers wind up
with selfish people. Like, that's the perfect pairing. Well, I mean, now in hindsight, like,
he is getting into writing and stuff. He's like, I cannot believe I did that. He's like, I feel so
bad. The fact that he didn't see it before, and he's like, I just should have been there for you.
I can't believe. I wasn't. Yeah, he was selfish. And that's, that's what, you know, selfish people,
a lot of times are not purposefully doing stuff. They're just thinking about themselves and really not
considering somebody else. But, you know, listen, I believe in redemption and everyone can grow and
change and have those moments. And I love that. He was able to eventually get to this place where he
really saw the truth of what he was doing. You know what I mean? Because the truth was that was very not
cool of him at all. And he should feel bad about what he did, you know. And the fact that, and he did. And he
didn't at first, which is fucked up.
You know what I mean?
Yep.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
So then, you know, we tried to rekindle things.
And then I think we took a break from the lifestyle for like five months.
Can I just ask you a question?
Because let's just stuff out like what went wrong.
I mean, like, you know, first of all, BDE didn't, you know, you're, you even called
it a relationship.
Like, you know, having a relationship.
Somebody recently, like the poor girl Harlow called her bull a boyfriend.
I don't know.
When people start saying relationship, boyfriend and you're in the, you know, it's like
that kind of shit could lead to.
to trouble.
You know what I mean?
Keep it clean.
You got a husband and fuck buddies.
If you want to be polyamory, it's a totally different thing.
But BDE, you're having a relationship, quote, unquote, with him.
First bad move.
And then your husband's saying, go play solo, another bad move.
And then you saying, okay, when right in the middle of like, someone, he's like going
and hooking, you know, like, there's just, there was a lot of bad moves.
But what, why would you think, like, was there anything going?
Because I sometimes believe, and I've heard of other couples where they started to play
solo and someone caught feelings for the other person. And I typically tend to think that no one's
going to kind of fall for someone else unless something is kind of missing or something is going on,
you know, at home or within that person themselves. Like, why do you think? Because it couldn't
have just been her. You know what I mean? Why do you think your husband was falling for that woman? Was
anything going on between you and him at that time? Yeah. Yeah, because I was distancing myself from him
because I knew something was going on between them.
And because of my grief, I was protecting myself.
So I think I made it worse because I told him that I had lost respect for him because he was not respecting me.
And he said that hurt more than hearing, I don't love you anymore.
And I was like, that's not what I mean.
Like you're not giving me.
But you were, you were saying that stuff by the time you already could tell he caught feelings.
His feelings came first before you started to act fucked up.
So that's not a valid reason.
Sorry, I'm like a fucking lawyer.
Sorry.
He was copping feelings.
You picked up on it and then you started being an asshole.
So that is not the reason why he started to cop feelings.
Okay, so sorry.
That might be the reason why he didn't care or whatever.
But I want to know like before you started to feel that were you and him completely
fine.
Was anything going down in your relationship at that time?
Or was it maybe something that was going on with him that he sort of sought out this
extra validation with this other woman?
I don't know.
Maybe it was just, you know, having someone else telling him all these things and giving him an
ego boost and it just made him feel good.
I don't know.
No, that could definitely be.
And if he was like rolling like very ego-based, selfish dude, you know what I mean?
It sounds like maybe that for someone like him who was in that place in his life, just
kind of like a douche at the time, you know, he can get off on that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So how are you able to get?
passed it.
We just talked about it a little bit and, you know, just moved on.
I think because he was being up front with me and being honest whenever she did try to
reach out.
And then I would assume that when you really saw the guilt and the feelings of feeling bad
about what he did, that probably went a long way too, right?
Like, I mean, because I don't see how you could get past it when the guy's like
fucking defending himself.
But like when he comes to you and he's like horrified, finally.
of what he did and really genuinely remorseful,
I would assume that goes a long way, right?
Yeah, that came later on though.
That didn't happen at this point yet.
So I was still kind of ticked off,
but I was burying it down because I was like,
we've been together for so long.
We can get through this.
Like, it's going to be okay.
You people pleasers are the best wives on the planet.
I mean, this is what every man should marry a fucker people pleaser.
Like, you're just too nice as far as I'm concerned.
So you didn't even get to that place,
but you stayed with him and you work.
pass through it. You just like, you just pushed it aside. Yep. And, you know, we decided we wanted to
continue playing and we said that we were going to play together only. We were not going to split off
and do our own things anymore. And so. Smart. BDE, Big Dick, got out of the picture, correct?
He's out of the picture for a little bit. Yep. He comes back. He comes back. He comes back.
Yeah. So let's see, we meet a couple and they live kind of.
of far away. They don't have kids. They're in the city. We're country. We have kids. You know,
so it's this big thing that we have to get together on a good schedule. It's hard to make
schedules meet. So we find a day. We go out for brunch. Everything goes well. Mind you, I can't
really play because I'm on my cycle. So I ended up sucking this guy's dick for like three hours.
Well, you said you like it. Yeah. So, I mean, it was fun, but my job was tired. Let me tell you.
But I got along with this girl.
I'm not by at all, but I had such good chemistry with her.
And I enjoyed watching my husband, you know, watching my husband fuck her for three hours.
And then gave my husband a double blow job with this girl while making out with her at the same time.
And it was just such a turn on.
And I think the end of that, my husband was like, oh, why don't you guys try this different thing?
where I would lay on my back and then the girl was on top of me like we were 60-90.
But she had her butt up in the air so that her husband can come up in, you know,
fuck her doggy style over my face.
Right.
And so I was licking his balls while he did that.
And right before he came, he pulled out, came on my tit and then she licked it off.
Was that super hot to you, that whole scenario?
That was super hot, yes.
And then he's like, do you want to see something cool?
And we're like, okay, so he takes his wife to the corner of the bed,
laser on her back, and then he waxed her clit with his dick like twice.
And then she just squirted everywhere.
Like, it was insane.
Yeah, I'm a little jealous.
I, yeah, that was probably my favorite experience that we had.
Right.
I just can't believe she gets squirt just from that.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
And you love that experience, right?
seeing him, right? Yes. Yes. So that's what I think I started noticing. I really enjoyed watching
him more than myself doing something. Right. And so then we ended up meeting another couple.
It was closer to us. And they were older and very attractive. And I have a fetid, or not a fetish,
I don't know, maybe it's a fetish for a man in uniform. Okay. So this guy was a cop.
And I love very dominant men and he was very dominant. And so.
I don't even remember anything from that night because I was so fuck drunk.
Like, I was just out of it.
I think my husband said that he had tried to talk to me a few times and I was just not responding at all.
So I was in my own little world.
That was so much fun.
Okay.
And the funny thing is, like, I think he said that he lost his underwear, this husband couldn't find it.
And I think I found it and washed it and tried to give him to my husband.
And my husband's like, those are definitely not mine.
I was like, oh, sweet.
I got a nice souvenir.
from one of my favorite
favorite guys.
So yeah.
And then, so this is where we get to the last couple swap we did.
Okay.
And I had absolutely no chemistry with this guy,
but my husband and the wife had really good chemistry.
You know, we had kids the same age.
They lived really close, like super close.
So it was like the dynamic of having friends that made this worthwhile for me,
where we could hang out vanilla and everything at the same time.
but I did not like this guy was super sweet but super submissive and all we did was laugh
like the whole time which is really not a turn on when you're trying to be sexy and intimate so
but it turned into where we were not in the same room like I was in a different room with him
and my husband was in you know a different room with the wife and so I kind of talked to my husband
about that like hey this is kind of drifting from where we were trying to get you know doing things
together right that's smart pull it back in right okay but then i think we did something where we couldn't
get babysitters so we just swapped houses so the husband came to my house and then my husband went to
their house and he had ended up saying something to the wife because he travels for work all the time
He's like, hey, well, maybe sometimes you should come down to, you know, my hotel when I'm there.
And I think that set me off again because I was like, this is never going to, you know, he just doesn't care.
Oh, my gosh.
So then I just, I think I was done at that point.
And he could tell how I was trying to mend it and it just wasn't working.
And the funny thing is we had already set up a babysitter like a month in advance.
And so this day comes.
that we have to go on this date from hell.
I am like, I am so mad at him, and he knows it.
So we go out to brunch, and I feel so bad for that waitress.
And it's not like we were yelling at each other at all.
We never raised our voice, but I was crying the whole time.
And we were like whispering, like talking, and I was telling him what was wrong and why I was so upset.
And then, you know, he started crying because he knew that he fucked up.
Finally, finally? He's having, yes.
Okay.
Yes. And so we're like walking around this big area that we're at and just super emotional. But the thing that it took for him to say to me was that he doesn't need the lifestyle. I think I had had it in my head that's because I opened the door for this whole thing. Like there was no going back. Right. Like you had to stay there now that you went there. You could never take it off the table because maybe he would be upset. Yeah. And he wouldn't want to do that. You know, but the fact that he told him.
called me he does not need that he only needs me.
Okay.
Changed everything.
Right.
And it just rekindled everything.
Let's see.
I think we took a break from the lifestyle again for a year.
Okay.
And then started talking about it a little bit more where we want to do things together.
And then we touched base with that couple that she squirted everywhere.
Yeah.
Okay.
And we were going to hook up with them.
Well, then I started getting cold feet because I really didn't want to be with another guy.
But I really wanted to see my husband with another woman.
because it's still like a big turn on.
And so it just so happened, a couple messaged us on Fat Life.
And it was a hot wife dynamic and the husband's a cuck.
And they're like, well, how do you feel about this situation?
And we thought that was pretty cool.
You know, we got along really, really well.
We, you know, we were texting in a group message.
We were, and we did a FaceTime thing.
And then they had kids the exact same age as ours.
They lived close, so we got along really well and decided to meet up.
So I met her first and we went out for brunch and then because we couldn't get a babysitter.
My husband came.
We swapped.
So I took the kids home and he had a date with her for lunch just to see if they had any chemistry.
So it proceeded to go well.
And then she ended up coming to our house.
The husband could never come over because they didn't trust babysitters at all.
so that was kind of a downside.
But I told him that I would record and take pictures
and send him play by plays as it's going on.
Right.
So, yeah, that's what we did.
She came over.
My husband and her played for at least an hour.
And I got so many recordings and pictures.
And I was just texting the husband the whole time
and sending him things.
And then I like to tease him a little bit.
So like throughout the next week,
I would send him a picture when I knew he was at work or a video.
But the other husband or your husband?
The other husband.
Okay.
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And was this where you're at right now?
That's where we're at.
So, yeah, we had another, a last experience with them, which kind of ended abruptly.
Well, tell me that experience and why it ended abruptly.
She came over and, you know, things seemed to be going well, things progressed.
I was recording them again.
And it was like maybe 10, 15 minutes into them having sex.
And then she was like trying to get my husband to come.
And he's like, well, what?
And then she just stopped.
She's like, I can't do this.
And he's like, well, what's going on?
She's like, well, I just, I don't know.
I'm not used to a guy not coming right away.
And my husband's like, okay.
And I told her, you know, I had pulled her aside on the first time.
So the first time, do you remember if your guy came really quick for her?
He did not.
And I mean, it takes them a while to get comfortable with someone in order to do so.
and even being in the swimming lifestyle
like the seven men I've been with
only one has finished
because it's just you know it's just for fun
like it's not I'm not gonna judge you if you can't come
I'm not gonna take that personally but and I had warned this woman
you know like hey it might take a little bit for him to get comfortable
it just needs you need the connection yeah
and she seemed to understanding with that well
when she had stopped him she's like I can't do this like I've not used to a guy
not coming and my husband was kind of taken aback and I was like
don't take it personally.
Like it has nothing to do with you.
Like it's literally just,
you know,
him being comfortable.
Yeah.
And so she just sat there and she was like laughing and almost making fun of him.
You're kidding.
Like,
and she kept looking at me for reassurance and I was like,
ha,
like just going with it.
I was like,
I'm just going to try to make you feel comfortable because I don't want it to be
awkward.
This literally went on for like a half hour.
And so I'm like,
okay, can we just like get going?
Can we get her out of the house,
please?
And then she's still like laughing on the way of the door.
Like this is just bizarre to me.
Like I don't get it.
That's what she's saying?
Yeah, that's what she said.
And so she laughed.
Yeah, she was so horrified and so in her head and feeling so insecure about it that
she turned it around and was just being rude.
But really it was her own insecure because she just couldn't get past it.
And she really took it personally.
And it's never personal.
I think so.
And I think because she was like hardcore workout girl, like she was so fit.
Like she was like firm, like super muscular.
Oh, that muscular.
Like, you know, like cute, petite.
Yeah.
Muscular.
So she had nothing to be worried about.
But yeah, I think she was definitely in her head and took it out on him.
You know, it's not like being insecure is like, oh, the ugly you are or the more busted you are, the more insecure you are.
One has nothing to do with the other.
So just because a woman is in perfect shape, like sometimes those are the people that are the most insecure.
Yeah.
And one has, like, looking good doesn't make you feel secure.
It's like self-esteem comes from yourself, your total self.
So, you know, that doesn't really mean anything.
And sometimes it's kind of like, I look so great.
I do all this and you're not turned on me.
You take it more, the she could be taking it more personal.
You know what I mean?
So I don't think, you know, it's sad.
Yeah.
Oh, but I did forget to mention.
So, yeah, we don't talk to them anymore just because of that whole thing.
They wanted to be friends, but I was like, I can't be friends with someone who is that disrespectful.
Like, I'm sorry.
Yeah, terrible.
So, but anyways, we had actually, when we took that five-month break from the lifestyle,
we had converted one of the rooms in our house into a red room.
Okay, is that like a dungeon?
What's a red room?
Yeah, yeah.
So it's almost like from 50 shades of gray.
It's actually a big room off of our living room, and it's locked.
And we painted it red and black, two-tone.
And we have a big.
king-sized bed. We have a yoga chase lounge. We have a submission chair. We have a sex swing.
We have a massage table and a bunch of floggers. And then I have like my grandma's old China
cabinet in there with all my toys in it. You know, I did a whole little episode. There was a
sex in the news story that I did an episode on. And it was kind of like someone finding something out
after someone had passed. And I talked about like these couples that have like dungeons in their
house and I'm like what happens if you know your house catches on fire and you guys even if you
survive like you don't even have to die like your house catches on fire the cops come you know what I mean
and they put it out in that one room is still there or like you guys die in a car crash and your
parents come home like do you think things through this is how I think this is the problem this is
why I'm no fun I have a pact with my sister that she has to go through everything before anyone
else okay so you've told her she knows about the red room she does not know about it but she
knows that we're freaks yeah oh my god okay okay so you have a little dungeon in there
what are you like you know why do you keep going back to the lifestyle even though it's caused you a lot
of grief because i am a stay-at-home mom and i work full-time from home so i get like no social
interaction and it just brings excitement like my husband and i have been together for so long yeah
You can only do so many things where it's the same old.
Like this is something different and I get turned on by seeing him with another woman.
Yeah.
And I never thought I would.
So it's fun.
I mean, you just go back because eventually you want, you need to scratch that itch.
Yeah.
Do you completely trust your husband?
Do you feel like you're past all that stuff?
Yes.
It has got kind of messy a couple times, no?
It did.
And, you know, he's completely.
changed his demeanor and the whole thing?
When did that happen?
When did the change?
That happened last summer.
Last summer.
What happened?
Because that whole date from hell and knowing what he had to do, he kind of, I think he
had it in his head that he can't run rampant like he was and that he needs to respect
me and that I come first.
What do you mean?
When he couldn't get up, he was more, he was humbled.
I don't understand how you're putting it together.
Which date from hell?
The one with the hot life that laughed at him?
No, the date from hell where we were both crying and he had to tell me that he didn't need a lifestyle type thing.
Oh, right.
Okay.
Yeah.
And that like humbled him, you think?
I think it did.
Okay.
Because he saw how much I was hurt.
And I think when I had tried to tell him before, I had it pent up so much that I didn't say it in a calm manner.
No, you're always blaming yourself.
He's like sort of not being able to feel your feelings and think about you at all is just his own issues.
Not you.
It's not what you do.
You know what I mean?
It was like all on him.
And, you know, what happened is he got to a place where he actually had feelings about something.
He's fucking crying.
And now he's not like the happy one and you're fucking miserable.
And so all of a sudden he was able to be like, oh yeah, maybe she has feelings too because I have them.
Like I think it was just like a transformation within himself that he needed to get there because it had nothing to do with you.
You know what I mean?
You couldn't have made him feel more feelings in those situations.
Like, what more could you have done?
Like, sorry, most people would be pissed if your guy fell, if your guy fell in love with the
girl that you gave him a free pass for and he was sneaking behind your fucking back.
You know what I mean?
Like what he's supposed to do.
Be nice and that's how he feels sorry for you.
Come on.
It had nothing to do with you.
He just eventually got to the point where he was able to come out of his like disconnected
phase.
And some people can.
I've seen that before.
Like I said, I'm all for people changing.
A lot of people are like, oh, no, people don't change.
I'm like, no, they fucking do.
I changed a lot in my life.
And so I believe that for people.
And I think it's amazing that he finally did get to that place where he like, he like,
you know, was like an iceberg and he like cracked.
And now he's like a normal person that has feelings, you know, because in the past,
he sounded a little disconnected.
You know what I mean?
Like there wasn't, he didn't like he didn't fucking get it.
Like, you know, here you are.
Like someone just died in your family.
He's like, well, what about me?
And like, you know, like it was like a lot of stuff that he did that like, if he was really
attached to his feelings for you and himself you know he wouldn't have probably done those things you know
something was like a little off and it seems like he got connected back in for whatever reason you know
but that was great for him and i'm sure for you too yeah so it's definitely been an experience
but this year too so i got my second set of fake tits oh what do you mean second set
yeah so i had a first set oh what did i get those things like that i did i get those things
right before COVID.
And then I got pregnant,
so then, of course, they changed.
Right.
And then,
so I went from an A cup
the first time to a D.
Oh my God,
how did they fit those in?
Did you have to get like extenders?
Like, how was your skin able
to like stretch over D cup implants?
I have no idea,
but it did.
It was fantastic.
And I love them.
And then they weren't perfect anymore.
So I was like, oh my gosh.
Why?
What happened to them?
Did they just get a little hang?
Well, let's see.
So I have my.
first and they weren't that bad and then after my second one like they were massive like when I was
lactating they were just massive yeah and then they just kind of um got more tissue because of that so
because of that when they finally dried up uh the implants were not up nice and high anymore like I could
literally pick them up off my chest and I was like this is not okay right uh so yeah so then I got my
second set this year and I went from a D cup to now I'm a 32 G.
What the fuck is a 32 G?
What's a G cup?
I don't know, but just like humongous.
Are you a little tiny girl or are they like proportionate or a little oversized?
I feel like it's proportionate.
Yeah.
So I'm 120 pounds and 5 foot 4.
Right.
And yeah, with 32 Gs.
There you go.
Well, listen, I like a big boobs on it.
You know what I mean?
I would be like it as big as pot.
Like I like that whole.
slutty look, you know what I mean? So I don't, you know, get when people get implants and they get like
little B cups. Like, what's the point? Right. But a lot of people actually think the opposite. Like,
we're not the norm. You know what I mean? I'm all for, why not go 32G? You know what I mean? Like I'm
like, I would high five you if I was your friend. You know, then if you were my friend,
you're like, yeah, I'm getting, I'm going from an A and I'm going to go to a B. And I'd be like,
what's the fucking point? But most people would be like, no, Kathy. The point is you want to look just like,
you know, and it's classy, not slutty,
but I like this lady look, so I'm like,
who fucking go for it.
So you must look great and feel great.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
And so you guys are like back involved in the lifestyle and you're all happy.
It's all good.
Correct?
Like everything's past everything.
Like everything's happy.
Yep.
And you plan on like for you,
I mean,
you'll never do,
like what do you can,
I mean,
I don't know that you're necessarily Polly.
I mean,
you know, your husband kind of like cheated.
Like that's not really Polly.
Polly is like you're allowed to go have relationships with other people.
What part of your story do you consider Polly?
Big Dick?
I guess.
I mean, I...
You weren't Polly.
No offense.
Yeah, I know.
I think we were testing the waters to see how things would go and obviously it didn't go very well.
Yeah.
So we had no idea what we were doing.
Yeah.
And at the end of the day, what did you learn about?
Because you guys have main mistakes.
I give you credit for like, you know, making it through and sticking together and you're
on the other side and like what would you say now looking back moving forward like you guys
have learned and how you'll sort of and have changed and within the lifestyle since no solo play
right exactly no solo play um i don't know i just just no solo play like you're always going to
be involved together is that something different that you decided to do after you had allowed
it and stuff so basically what we're currently looking for is
a hot wife who's married and where we're all involved. And honestly, it's taking us a little bit longer
just because we want it to be exclusive. We don't want to be sleeping with other people and we prefer
them not sleeping with other people just to prevent, you know, the spread of things and just to keep
it safe. And it would just be a better dynamic if we had the same interests and, you know, we had kids
that we could get together and it's just hard to find.
Right, but if you find it, it's great, right?
Because then you have your one couple that you could hook up with.
So what is the hot wife is, though, so that your guy is just with her and you get to watch
and you're not with the guy?
Is that the whole point of it?
Yep.
Yeah.
I mean, if the guy wants to touch my tits or whatever, I don't care, but yeah, that's about it.
You don't need another guy.
You're like, what you really love now is like your guy with other people, right?
Yep.
Yeah, wow.
I thought it was, I didn't realize there was this.
much salaciousness in your story, which I love.
I actually, like, you know, listen, people come on my show and I know my audience loves
the stories, like, one hot sex story after another, but you had, like, drama in there and
like crazy stuff and, like, gone wrong stories.
And I actually really enjoy those, like, to me, that's very real life.
And a lot of times, you know, just between me, you and everyone listening, a lot of times,
you know, the solo play doesn't go right with certain couples that have been on my show,
but they never want to come back on and talk about it, you know?
So I really appreciate you talking about that because I personally am always worried for solo play
with people.
I mean, it's like, you know, so I didn't realize there was like so much stuff going down
on your story.
But thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story.
It was super interesting.
I wish you guys all the luck.
I'm glad your guy finally, you know, got in touch with his feelings.
Yes, me too.
And him too.
I'm sure he looks back and is horrified because like I was a very different person when I
was younger than I am now, you know what I mean? And it's like live and learn. And like I said,
I do believe that people change. And it's great that he had that moment. And now, you know,
you don't have to worry about what he did in the past and the future. So do me a favor if you
want to send me in picks, uh, picks for Patreon. You know about that deal, right? For Patreon,
I always say R rated. Let me ask you this. Would your husband ever call in? Or is he going to hear
this and be like, what a bit? Kathy's like fucking dissing me. I told him to call in. And he's like,
no one wants to hear from the guys.
They always want the girl's point of you.
No, no, I want to hear from him.
Okay.
No, honestly, I got to tell you, people love the, I, people really resonate.
Because I do have a lot of guys listening.
And of course, they love the females, right?
And, you know, but, but I, but they do love the guy's stories because a lot of times
guys, especially if they're very self-aware, they get, it's not just about the stories,
the sex stories, but they, when they really talk about like the feelings and the stuff,
I don't know, when they talk about like the real shit that they,
they're going through and what was going through their head and stuff.
I don't know.
I think it's just as interesting as the woman.
So I want to hear his story and people would want to hear his side of the story.
And he has like a real redemption arc in his story, which I think is interesting, you know,
for him to really talk about that and I could get in his head.
But, you know, maybe after he hears me talk about him on this episode, I'll be like,
no way.
I don't know.
But I would love to have him on.
So tell him to fucking come on, okay?
But maybe he has to listen to your episode first, okay?
But thanks so much, Skyler, for calling it.
Good luck for you guys, okay?
No more solo play.
Nope.
Okay, bye.
Bye, bye.
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