Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1631 - Matt & His Wife Are Into Swinging, Hotwifing, Solo Play & More

Episode Date: October 20, 2026

Matt and his wife are into swinging, hotwifing, couple swaps, solo play and a whole lot more, and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when he started asking his wife about her past sexual experiences with other guys, how he initially felt jealous and how that jealousy eventually turned into a huge turn-on, how they wound up at their first swinger club and exactly what went down, what happened the second time they went and the couple they swapped with, how and why they didn't really have any rules or boundaries going in, the couple they met online and what the wife did that completely turned them off, the couple they hooked up with where Matt wound up just watching his wife with the other guy and how that led to him realizing he was into hotwifing, the next guy his wife hooked up with and exactly what went down during their threesome, the swinger party they attended and the woman Matt hooked up with and did DVP with, how watching him inspired his wife to try DVP too and exactly what went down, how his wife discovered she had a cum fetish and why Matt loves being the cleanup guy, the time he got a blowjob from another guy and how he felt about it, how his wife decided to hook up solo with an ex from her past and why that turned out to be one of the hottest experiences Matt ever had, plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join ANNUALLY, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠https://inda.shop/STRICTLY⁠⁠ If you’re 21 or older, get 30% OFF your first order @IndaCloud with code STRICTLY #indacloud ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://VB.HEALTH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST by VB Health, use code: STRICTLY   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Buy 2 months of Bluechew GOLD and get the third month FREE! + 10% OFF first order, Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://DipseaStories.com/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get first week FREE then 25% off  ⁠⁠https://beducate.me/anonymous⁠⁠ — Take the quiz and then use code ANONYMOUS for 50% off Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much. You're real problems. Do your friend know that you're banging her or no? No, he has no idea.

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Today I have on Matt. Matt is, that's a long time listener. I don't know what. Check him so long to call in because he's got a really super interesting story. Him and his wife, second wife, both of them, this is the second marriage for both of them, they have done so many different things. And they started out as like, you know, people who were always monogamous before, monogamous with each other. And then one thing led to another and, you know, they've done a lot of stuff.

And the one first thing that led to other things was like him asking her stories about another guy. and him being jealous about those stories. It's like interesting that the story starts off with him hearing about another guy and being jealous to them doing DVPs, him being the cleanup guy, them doing hot wifing, her doing solo play, them having threesomes and more sums. They're into so much. They've been there, done that. They're closer because of it. And he explains the whole journey, like sort of chronologically, which is great. It's interesting because it comes very full circle.

the last story is about, it is, you know, goes back to that first story that made him jealous. So you need to hear about what his wife did at the end. And it's going to be super interesting to you because of what happens in the beginning. And that's what's super great about his stories. It's like the evolution is crazy and great. And you could see hot picks of him and his wife over on my Patreon. If you sign up over there, the link is in the description.

But anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Matt. Matt. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Hi, Matt. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? I'm great.

I love your story because you go from like, I'm assuming nothing to everything. You went from like probably nothing and then to parallel couple play and then to full swap, then to hot wiping and hot husband and threesomes and fantasy and comp fetish and oh my God, I don't. DVP, like, look at all this shit you told me about in your email. And we're going to get all of the details, okay? Like, that's the short story. You're going to tell me the long story. How long you've been, is this your first wife and how, and if so, or even if not, like, you know, also how long have you guys been together married?

Yeah, so this is my second wife. Okay. And we've been together 13 years, married 10 years. Okay. Now, did you do anything like this with your first wife or were you just totally? vanilla before this wife? Well, I wouldn't say vanilla, but I would say vanilla, yes. Well, like, what do you mean? Like, you were like, you were kinking in the bedroom with her, but you guys didn't do any kind of outside play. Is that, is that what you're saying? Well, I consider

myself to be fairly adventurous, just in life in general, but I had no idea of what was in store for me when I met my second wife. Okay. So, all right, so you meet your second wife, even with her for a long, you know, a while. Now, does she come to the table with a history of, like, being in the lifestyle at all? Or is she even, do you guys show up as to, like, maybe adventurous people, but, you know, typically monogamous people. Yeah, we're both typically pretty monogamous people. And when we met one another, we were both looking for relationships. And we both do enjoy being married and in a relationship.

Okay, great. So you want, you know, you're both like ready for a commitment right off the bat. You both know what you're looking for. you want to like hop right back into a committed relationship. That's where you, that's what you both dig, right? So, and how is the sex in the beginning? Excellent. Okay, great. And like, how do you go from like, I mean, excellent sex is great. And I mean, typically, I don't understand anyone that would marry somebody that or start dating someone that doesn't have excellent sex in the beginning, right? It's always weird when you hear people say like,

oh yeah, wasn't that great in the beginning. It's like, how do you stay with someone? You know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, because then it kind of goes downhill. But like, you got to start at the top of the mountain. All right. So it's great sex. You guys are together. Now, how does any, like, you know, like how, I'm assuming parallel couples play is the first thing you guys get into.

How do you go from being two people who were previously monogamous, you know, to sort of playing in a room while other people are fucking and you guys are too? Totally. So do you want a little bit of the origin story? Yeah, I would love it if that's interesting and ties into it. Absolutely. You know how I wrote. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, I do. So it is interesting. So we had met and we had a wonderful relationship and we right away, we enjoyed each other's company and so on. She wanted to take a little bit of time. And so we didn't have sex until after more than a month later. And I was totally fine with that. And we enjoyed each other's company, had a great time.

And then we had sex. And it was great. It was a great start. And I was like, okay. and we decided to take a night drive afterwards. And we got in the car and we were driving along and I asked her. I don't know why, but I asked her. I said, hey, I said, have you ever, you know,

have you have any partners that you've really enjoyed? And she's like, well, yeah, I do have this one. And so that was kind of the beginning. And I've never had anybody say that to me so directly before. The thing about my wife is she's just got this incredible amount of honesty that was excellent and scary. Yeah, but let me ask you this. Did you always ask people this question for some reason? And did you know why you were asking? No. Okay. Interesting. Why do you think you asked her that that night? I don't know. Well, I don't, I don't have an answer for that. Okay, cool. So you're just like chatting. You're all sexed up. This is the same night. You just finally had sex with her and you start to talk about sex with her.

And she says, oh, yeah, I had someone. Did you get a little Woody? Like, was it? Or were you just curious? Yeah, tell me. Yeah. It was so funny. I was curious, but I was also like, in that moment, very insecure and jealous.

Oh. In that moment, I thought, like, why would she say this something? Like, we just had sex, you know? Yeah, but why do you fucking ask her? That's leading the witness. That's not fair. I totally agree with you. Go on.

But that's part of the origin story. And so later on. You know, this became a topic a little bit over and over again. Of course, it exhausted her. But I was trying to work something out. No, no, I need to know how it became a topic. Like, does she go, do you ask, like, do you push her for details about that guy? Or just her saying like, yeah, I did.

I did. You did. Okay. And she gave you, like, the real details. Like, what were the details? Like, he was fucking great. So, yeah, totally. So it turns, well, the story developed over time.

and I got little bits and pieces over time, right? So it took over a number of years. And so it turns out, you know, it was a guy that she met after she had divorced. And she was one of the first times that she really had a sexual partner that was just great. She liked being with him. They got along. The sex was great. And they were kind of not, I wouldn't say dating, but he would come over and they would have sex from time to time.

and then they were at a restaurant one night and somebody walked up to them and said, hey, it's really nice to see you. Congratulations on your engagement. And she was sitting right there next to him. Oh, he was, they said it to who? Him, her, him, right? He was actually cheating is what she found out. Yes.

Okay, okay, great. So you're, yeah, go on. So over time, it turns out that I was like, oh, okay, well, of course that would be the end of that relationship, right? Well, it turns out that it wasn't. And they, even after he married, they continued on because, you know, she was kind of, she was dating. She was not sure what she wanted to do. And, you know, they had a good rapport. And so they continued on even after he married up until the time where she and I met.

Right. Mm-hmm. And why didn't you keep asking her? Because even if it was, because I'm assuming this whole time you're asking her these questions. It's still like a thorn in your side? It's a little, it popped up. It was a thorn in my side that popped up every once in a while. And then it turned into curiosity.

And I don't know why. I'm not a person that's like this typically. But then it turned into a curiosity. And then I realized, I told her, I told her over and over again, actually. I said to her, I said, you know what? I'm very insecure and I'm very jealous, you know, and I need to get over this. And I did. I got over it. And then it got really hot for me. Yeah, don't you love that? Isn't it so much better to take that same fucking, because I just think it's an energy, you know, in a feeling. And you could morph it into something else. And when I first heard someone say that they did that, because I've always been a jealous person because I had a lot of cheating in my back history, you know, I was like, I'm never going to be fucking jealous again. I'm going to be turned on. I'm going to fucking switch it. up, okay, because it's so much better. Because it doesn't feel good to be jealous.

It's a terrible feeling, you know? So you start, so you copped to that and you start, and then you started telling her like, I'm actually turned on by this? Yeah, totally. So it didn't, I didn't say it outwardly like that. It took me a long time to say that. Yeah. But one time before we switched over to our life now, I had said to her, I had said, you know,

I could see you with somebody else. And she's like, no way. Especially now with a jealous guy. No way. No way. Totally no way. Yeah. I totally get that.

Yeah. But it wasn't until so after that and I kind of got over it and then it was kind of exciting for me. We were in Europe and we were sitting there. And I said, you know, what would you like to do? Like what's the next thing you like to do? Because we've done, we've had our adventures together that we hadn't had with other people necessarily too.

And we were just kind of adding on. You know, like, well, what comes next for us? Right. And she said, you know, I really want to go to Amsterdam to the Red Light District. And so immediately I got online. Yeah. I said, okay, how do we make that happen? Yeah.

Yeah. So I started getting online. And it just turned out that it wouldn't work and it was a little bit too cumbersome to try to get to Amsterdam, whatever. Anyway, so what did I do? I started thinking like, okay, well, where else do you go for like an experience? And I told her, I said, hey, there. is a there's a club near us and why don't we just go there and she's like okay but i'm going to tell you right now all i want to do is i'm a voyer i want to be i want to watch right and i'm like great fine

no problem and so we end up planning to go and it was during the winter anyway we we go and it was very exciting so like getting ready and getting dressed and touching each other beforehand and going to the hotel room and all that stuff. And we didn't know what was going to happen. So we, anyway, we go to this place. It's remarkably normal kind of in a way, right? So we go in and everybody's just talking and stuff like that. And we're sitting there and we have our little drinks and our hands and stuff.

And we're sitting there and I'm sitting there thinking to myself, okay, what are we doing here? Like, what are we going to, like, once the actions start? And we're sitting there and a couple walks up to us and says, hey, what's your guys' name? And so they end up sitting with us and we end up sitting with them and talking. And, you know, they're asking, I was like, oh, is this okay? And, you know, she's touching my knee and, oh, is this okay? And he's touching her knee and so on. And we progressed forward.

And we ended up that night, kind of things kind of kept going and going and going and we're kissing and stuff like that. And then we end up going into this other kind of lounge area where you can also have sex if you want to. and so we go in there and we say to each other, okay, it's okay maybe if we play next to them. And so she started giving me a blow job. And the other couple started getting undressed and things like that. And then we played next to one another. And while we were playing, you know, the women were touching each other a little bit here and there and a few kisses here and there. And that was the first night.

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Was it hot? Did you both like the experience of sort of being a voyeur or being an exhibitionist? Because both of those things could be a turn on in that situation. Yes. So the experience was different than I had imagined in the sense that I never have a problem getting hard. and I did struggle to get hard that night, the first night. Yeah. And until I was with my wife for a moment, and then she helped me out, and then I got back into the game.

Mm-hmm. That's very common. Yeah, totally. And I wasn't aware that that would take place, and it's, like, completely inexplicable how that happens. Right, yeah. You're like, right now five. I'm like, yeah, totally. So once we did that, I was.

I was good to go for the rest of the evening. And it was super hot. Like we ended up having sex like two weeks after because of that. Like, you know, just every day. Like, you know, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex all day. Yeah. Okay. How does it progress?

So from there, so we didn't have sex with that couple that night. As we were trying to figure out like, do we have rules? Like, what's the deal? Like, what are we doing? What do we want to see? And so we go back and we say, hey, the couple says to us, if you guys are interested, why don't we meet up again? And I said, great, what do you think?

And my wife says, great, let's do it. So we met a month later in the same place. And that night was a mind blower for me because we got together. There was more touching and feeling. And we were on the dance floor. and my wife was touching his cock and his pants. And the woman, the other woman was, you know, like touching me. And I was, you know, she was in lingerie and stuff like that.

And it was just immediately so hot. And so we went back into the same room that we were in before. And we'd had a few drinks. But it was, you know, like, so it was kind of hard to remember some of the details. But so she started getting me a blowjob right away. And apparently my wife, she was just blown away. And she was like, whoa, I can't believe this is happening. And then, and then, so we all started taking our clothes off.

I mean, this was okay. You guys were down to do anything this time? So we're both easygoing people. And we had talked about it. And we didn't really know, like, totally what we wanted to do. Yeah. But at the same time, I had told her before. I said, you know what?

I think that I'm just kind of okay. Like my whole thing with her was at the time. is like, I don't want to own you. I just want to be with you. Yeah. You know. So let's just go with the flow because you're both easy going. You didn't want to put you, you're not, neither one of you was the top that was the type that wanted to like overanalyze it or put boundaries or anything like that going in. No. And we did have some things like, you know, her thing was a little bit like, well, I don't really like kissing, no kissing. Yeah. That went out the window. Like she was breaking all the rules. I was just sitting there like, oh, she broke a rule. That's

awesome. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah, I loved it. I was like, oh my God, she said she wasn't going to do that. Look at her. Yeah. Yeah.

And then so, you know, even just in the beginning, it was just so hot. Like, we were blown away because, of course, we've never done anything like this before, you know. And we're doing it together. And then. And she see, when she sees you, do you both like, do you see her with the guy too? Well, so not at first. So it started out with me getting the blow job. And then it progressed from there.

And I think she felt maybe a little more comfortable in that moment. And then the fucking started and like he fucked her from behind. And, you know, we had this big round bed and they were fucking on the bed. And it was just so hot. Like I was like I was so blown away. And it was a little confusing because there was music and people and stuff like that. So it was like kind of kind of a lot to take in at the same time. Did you have any getting it up problems that time?

I did a little bit initially. but then I, because, you know, I wasn't sure because at the time my wife was saying like, okay, like, this is fine for you, but like, I don't want, you're, you're not going to be with women. Yeah, yeah, I get it. She's like, I'm fine with her giving you a blowjob, but that's it. And I'm like, okay, cool, no problem, whatever. And I followed the rules. I'm a rule follower.

So anyway, yeah, but it was just so hot because my wife ended up doing things that she did set necessarily that she wouldn't do her, you know, And so, but when she did do those things that she said she wasn't going to do, I was like, you lied to me and I love it. Yeah. It was so fun. It just very heightened and just so much energy to our sex life, just to our personal lives. So we brought it all home, of course. We brought all that stuff home and used it for a long time.

And then we just wanted to continue from there. Right. And that, I'm sure that, like you said, it added to your sex life afterwards, right? just knowing that you guys did that and everything. And were there any kinds of, any kinds of reservations from, from either of you, like seeing the other person with somebody?

Because you were this jealous person. Were you totally okay? Well, that time you didn't see her with the guy, right? I did that time. Yeah, he was fucking hurt for behind. Oh, right, right. But how did you feel? Like any kind of like jealousy there on either person?

No. Turn on for both of you? Yes. Yes. We were both in neither of us like no, no reservations or anything. We did look at each other again and say like, oh, what just happened? That was, you know. But yeah, it was great.

But they were also really good with us too. Like, they knew we were new. And so they took their time and they asked permission and they did all the things. And so it made her feel very comfortable to just take that leap, you know, that she wouldn't normally take. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Okay. and she broke all the rules and that was okay.

Both of you were easygoing. There was no conversations about that, right? And no problem. No, but I mentioned it because it was so hot. I was like, oh, that's hilarious. You broke the rules and it was so hot. That's awesome. Okay.

Yeah, it was pretty great, yeah. Okay. So for us, it worked. Like, for us, it worked. Like, we've had other issues, but not because of each other. You know what I mean? Like, not emotionally that way. But, you know, like, there's been problems with,

you know, finding partners that we enjoy. And sometimes the sex is pretty terrible. And it's just very difficult to find partners that we enjoy the sex part with. Right. Because, right. And that's typical, too, on top of some people can have other problems as well. But you're saying problems with other, and I don't mind a gone wrong story, but you have so much more to talk about. So why don't you just stick with just the hot stories because you have a lot more coming. So keep going. Okay, sounds good. Yeah. So So what we did, so after that experience, I thought like, okay, here we go. And she was a little bit like, kind of like, okay, we've done that, you know, whatever. You know, like maybe we take a little, you know, break or whatever.

And I'm like, no way. So we met another couple online and we decided we were going to meet up with them. So we rented a house and we, you know, we scheduled a place to go meet for drinks and and things like that. It was so fun. This is a story gone wrong kind of. Yeah, so you'll like this one. So we're there and we've got all this stuff. We've got this wonderful place and, you know, like we're going all out, right? And so we get there and, you know, the man, he's a good looking man and the woman is a little bit different than what, you know, we expected, I guess you could say. Okay. And I was I was totally into it. Like I was like, yeah.

because it's so different than what I would normally, you know, because I'm in fantasy land, you know, like I'm not in reality land. And so I'm like, yeah, so we have dreams. We hang out. We invite them back to the house and we're there. And she immediately, the woman that, from the other couple,

immediately reaches into her dress and pulls her bra out. I don't even know how she did it out from her dress. and then jumps up, sits on the counter in the kitchen and spreads her legs. For who? You or your wife? Yeah, for me. Yeah, for me. Yeah.

And like, so my wife didn't really care for that very much. And she just kind of like got a bad vibe, I guess, or something like. She just didn't like it. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And so that was the first time where we were kind of, I was kind of like, oh, gosh, I don't know what to do here, you know. How come?

Like, what was a problem with that? that. At the time, she felt that the woman was too trashy in a way and she didn't care for that. And, you know, and also a little too forceful and a little too fast, I think. You know, I don't know that she was ready for that piece of it yet. Yeah, I get it. Like that girl just wasn't her vibe at all. And there she is about. Totally not at all. She's not going to share that person if she's, like with her guy. If she's not down with her. I get it. Totally. And they didn't connect. So one of the things. it's important for my wife is that the women connect at least a little bit, you know,

like just to make sure that they're friendly with one another. Yeah, for sure. You know, trustworthy in a way. Yeah. And that's not in common. Yeah. So, so, so, and there was none of that. She just jumped me, basically.

Oh my God. But did you guys go all the way with this couple? Did you both go? So, okay. So, oh, yeah. So, okay. So we go into this like little downstairs area and we had it all lit with lights and things like that.

And so we're, I mean, I'm gay. Like, I'm ready. Yeah. And, uh, I go down there. And the woman, unbuttones my pants and she takes my cock out and she's she's already stuck in my cock actually honestly and I'm sitting there and I'm loving it and she's she's look and I look across the room

at the sofa because I'm in this big chair and I look across the room at the sofa and I see my wife over there and she's shaking her head and it's going no and I like right away I was like oh well maybe we should try to like you know I switched it up right away and I like pulled her up off my cock, you know, and it's like, it was, it was, it was now looking back, it's really funny. Right. But it was, but I didn't know what to do. So I was scared, right? Yeah.

Okay. And so, and this is after like, she's naked and, uh, with, with my wife on the sofa. And, you know, they're trying to figure it out, you know, like, and she's just like, no. And we stopped it right there. And so we watched them have sex with one another. And we, uh, we, tried to have sex with one another, but it just kind of wasn't happening because the vibe was so

off at that point. And so then the night kind of just ended with them having sex and us kind of halfway having sex and it was not sexy. So that's a story gone wrong. How do you get into hot wifing and hot husbanding? Because that, yeah. Yeah. So that comes a little bit later. So after that experience, I'm kind of like, okay, well, where do we go from here? Yeah. And we decide to meet up with the male part of the couple that will be met in the club. That you did, right, yeah, the first time, right? Yeah, so we, yeah, that's one of our things. We do like to try to keep things consistent when we can,

like if we meet people that we're interested in. And so great. So he, it turns out that the woman that he was with at the club was not his wife. Oh, okay. So we find out And we're like, oh, okay He's like, but I would like to bring my wife this time. And we're like, okay, great.

So we needed a hotel. We have drinks and we go upstairs. And that night turns really hot because like right away, like, you know, since my wife knows him, they start kissing and he fucks her from behind and lifts her, you know, like, moves her panties to the side and fucks her from behind and like just all this really super hot stuff. Like it was a hot night. Yeah.

But the wife was not having it. She doesn't really participate. So it's kind of like, okay. So again, I'm in a position where I don't know what to do. So I got to watch them. And that's kind of how this part starts for me. I'm kind of like, you know what? I kind of like just watching.

Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, it's so hot. Yeah. And wait, does your girl hook up with the girls ever? Or does that come later maybe? Well, the funniest thing about that is it's been everything has been kind of an evolution. And part of the evolution is she did have some kind of vicariosity,

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So that time makes you realize, like, you really like to watch when you see, like you're watching. Because you have nothing else going on. Good thing that you were into just watching. You know what I mean? That turned you on because you weren't getting any action that time from the life. Totally, yeah. And, you know, I know you have a thing about cucks, you know, and it's like, yeah, I get that. I do understand that because that you're going to be interested in the last part of the story, too.

But yeah, yeah, we'll get there. Yeah. So I, it's more of a time for me to watch than it is for me to be with the other woman. And so I really discovered that in full during that experience. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, oh, yeah. It's like, oh, this is me right here. Like, ding.

You know, and so I think my wife liked that too. You know, we're still. Yeah. So anyway, so that was, that was a great experience. Right. And then do you tell her, though, afterwards? Like, hey, by the way, I kind of. to like realize I'm like more into watching than even hooking up with the wife anyway.

Like do you guys discuss it. We do discuss it. Yeah. And I discuss it in a lot of different ways. And like one of the ways is like, you know, I said, I told her, I said, you know, I kind of like you dating. You know, like I feels like a date. I love that. Interesting. And so yeah, it's so strange. Like I would never have expected that for myself ever. Right. Yeah. So and that's, so that was a new evolution and a new discovery on my end. And so we fast forward. So this guy again, we were in another city and

he wanted to meet up with her. So for some reason I was busy or something like that. I said, well, why don't you go meet up with them and just let's just see what happens? And so she did. She went, this is another time. And she did. and she met him for drinks and stuff like that. So like I didn't know what was going to happen.

So I was staying at home. Like it was the first time I stayed at home. And so she went and met him for drinks. And they, you know, they talked and they kissed and they did, you know, like stuff. But they didn't, they didn't have sex that time. She's like, oh, I'm not sure about that one. So like she enjoyed the time, but she wasn't sure she was interested in doing that, that solo style. Oh, really?

Yeah. she wasn't sure she was into that right but yeah but uh so that was just one like brief moment in time and then we met up with him again in the hotel room together so like as another this time more as a three so did you like the solo thing i did i i so for me i'm the guy that just enjoys experiences and so even when things go wrong or not right or they feel funny, I just really enjoy experiencing different things. Like, I'm at a point in my life where I just really like the variety of feelings that are, it's caused, you know?

Yeah, of course. And so that's part of the enjoyment for me, like just some of the psychological. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you met up with him again, but together, like doing a threesome this time?

Yeah, so more of a threesome situation. And so this was the first time where we were really like just in a threesome, like very specific. And all the energy was on her. And so that time, like I got to watch a little bit. I got to participate a little bit, you know, like she sat on his cock while she was giving me a blowjob. And that time she squirted on him. And it was just super hot, like super hot.

And we, you know, we were on the sofa. We were on the bed. And we were, you know, at Ben, over the table and all kinds of stuff. And it was just so hot for me. Is that when she did? Did she do the DVP then? Because I know that that's a part of her story.

It is part of the story. No, not that time. Okay. So it's so funny because we, so from there, from that experience, we went to, we were, this person also invited us to a party. And we hadn't been invited to one. So we got like this kind of secret invite to them. this party. And so we were at this party. This, the first time was a little bit less eventful.

You know, like we, we had sex with each other and stuff like that. But the next time we were at the party and my wife had evolved a bit and she wanted to see me with somebody else. And so like, I was like, okay. Oh, this is the hot husbanding coming on. So this is part of how this is kind of evolving. It's still in the evolution phase. Yeah. But this is kind of the beginning of that, I suppose. Yeah. So we're at the party.

And I was very attracted to this tall, blonde, large-breasted, shapely woman. Anyway, and so was she, actually. And so I said, oh, I want to be with her. So we introduced each other and stuff like that. Well, it turns out that I was watching her with this other guy. And they were doing some BDSM style stuff, you know, and it's not, that's not really my thing. But after watching her play for a little while with another person, I started talking to her and we ended up having sex. And we're having a great time.

And we're kind of going back and forth between her and another guy. And so I kind of finish up for a little while and I kind of move on and watching her or whatever. you know and and they the guy and this blonde woman come back to me and they said hey do you want to do dvp and i i didn't quite hear what they said i couldn't quite understand i'm like what and uh so i was really surprised and uh and i looked like i said of course and so this guy and i and this blonde woman did dvp and it was it was kind of hot like so i was on at the bottom you know And it was like hot, but I didn't really move or anything. So it was kind of funny that way.

But anyway, the funniest part of it is is my wife was watching and she's watching. And she's like, oh my God, that's so hot. And she's like, I want to do that too. And so like everybody at the party is like watching us do this. Because, you know, even for this particular party, it's a little bit more extra, I guess you could say. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And so like I was totally into it.

And so my wife, so we finished that part and my wife gets involved. And then we did DVP with her. And I think she came that time too, which was so hot because I was on the bottom and so I could see her face and fill the other guy's cock and everything. And it was just like so hot. And she was so full. And that was a really hot moment too. And DVP is two dicks and one pussy, right?

That's the one. Yeah. Is that hard to do? How do you both move at the same? same time or does just one person move? How do you fuck a girl with two dicks inside her at the same time? These are all very good questions and I didn't move. So I was on the bottom part. So you, so the bottom guy doesn't move, the top guy moves? The top guy. Well, in our situation, that's the way it went. That's the only way I know how to do it because I've only done it that one

time. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Okay. Go on. You have more stories so you can keep rolling. So that's the time she DVPs. Yeah. And that was, also unexpected. I mean, there was no rule, but I didn't know we need to make a rule about that. So, anyway, that was really super fun, and it was different. And we, you know, so gosh, I don't know. Where do we go from here? I don't know. Where did you go from there? She's got a cum fetish. I mean, there's a lot more stuff you could talk about. Yeah, that's a great prompt because over time, one of the things that this is done for both of us, particularly me, because I might use used to be a guy that was pretty quiet in bed and I didn't really necessarily talk about sex. And you could

asked me what my fantasies were and I'd be kind of like, eh, I don't, I don't really know. Yeah. So through this time, you know, you kind of have to talk about stuff like that. And so I became much more vocal, not only just in life, like when we're talking about, like, you know, what sex, what things we'd like to do or things we enjoy or don't enjoy, but also in bed too. So that's when the dirty talking started after those experiences. Mm-hmm.

And so. That's interesting. No dirty talking before. it was after you did all the dirty things, now you're like more open to talk dirty to each other because you're very open. Yeah, it's not because I was so conservative or anything like that. It's just kind of like, I don't know, it's just not my personality, right? Yeah. So and so that's been like an evolution that at home, when we're at home and on our own, we talk about the times, you know, like so we've become, I've become much more confident, you know, talking and telling her what I enjoy and things that I saw

that I love and things like that. So that's also been a really exciting evolution for us too. So all of this is just kind of added on one thing to the next. And so then that leads us to me asking, so like, what would you be interested in doing next? And so my wife says, well, I'm really into, you know, come right now. Like everything's, I want everything come. And so I'm like, okay. So the next time we got together with the one guy that we've been together with multiple times, she said to him, which was hot for me to hear her say it to him. She said to him, well, you know, I'd like it if you came on me tonight, you know, like when you're fucking me, pull out of me and come on me. And so he did that. And it was, again, it was super hot. It was something new for us because we had never experienced having somebody come on her before.

And so that was hot. That was another night. Yeah. And then from there, we kind of continued down that road a little bit. And so with this particular partner. And so he's come inside her and he's, you know, come on her and things like that. And like I like to eat her pussy after he comes in her and things like that. So why are you stuttering when you're telling this story?

Are you horrified that you go, like you're a cleanup guy? I don't know. It's kind of interesting. No, no, not at all. No, no, no, it's not at all. No, it's not like that. I'm like, all of a sudden, you know, you can't find the words. I'm like, this is kind of telling. Are we getting into a point where, right, because you go out on her and eat his calm. I'm wondering if you feel a little weird about that. I don't know. I'm like a psycho analyzer. Totally. And I don't blame you. You know, it's funny that you say that because it is actually a hard to say it because I know that people are going to hear it, right? Because I, you know, like, it's one thing. All of a sudden. and you're like fucking stuttering and you've been so great in telling your story. Well, that would get you a little bit and I love it though. Obviously it does.

But you love it, right? And so fucking own it. Who gives a fuck? You know what I mean? And you know, and that's a process though for you, right? Yeah, of course. Really, oh, like really just saying like, you know what I want to do to you right now? Yeah.

You know. Yeah. It's a stigma? Right. But is it a stigma? Because it's another guy's calm? Like, have you ever been with a guy? Do you have any desire to do anything with a guy ever suck a dick or touch one or whatever?

You're obviously don't care about crossing swords because you were like touching one inside and having it rub up against your cock, you know. Yeah, totally. And I don't mind that at all. Honestly, like I'm not phobic that way. Yeah. Yeah. And we were also at a party. And I have gotten a blowjob from a guy because that was one of the things my wife said that she was interested in seeing.

And, you know, like I'm not phobic that way. but I it's not totally my thing. Right. So, but, but I'm happy to do it because again, it's another experience and it's like I'm all about experiences. Well, were you going to skip that part and just never tell me that? No, no, no, no. It wasn't purposeful. Okay. So, and how was that? Did he give great head or was it just like any other head you got? No, it's totally different. At least in what sense?

I don't know. I mean, better? No. Okay. A little bit rougher. And then like, I don't know. It just felt, you know, the vibe was totally different too. Because it was pretty hot. It was a hot situation. Like he was fucking the blonde woman on this like fuck chair thing, like where he had her bent over and she has her arms down.

It's so hot. Anyway. Why are you going anyway? Explain the hotness. It's fucking go there. Oh, yeah. So it was so hot while he was fucking hurt. because I was watching her because I'm like totally into her right and and and he bends over while

he's fucking her and gives me a blowjob right there so we're all three kind of together while my wife is watching us it was really hot it was pretty hot but the blowjob piece of it wasn't necessarily for me like it was fine you know like I didn't think anything of it necessarily but like to have her watch was was great right so that's what made it good for you and you took it for the team you took one for the team No, I don't feel that way either because, you know, it's a really vulnerable kind of a position to be in and it was definitely a stretch for me. Yeah.

But to do that with my favorite person. And for her, right? For her pleasure. Yeah. Yeah. To see her get off, right? I loved it. Yeah.

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You just like, why not? You just did it. I don't understand the person that's like, no. Like, I don't know. I understand it more like what, you know, why not? I could see maybe someone having a little bit more pause to put the dick in their mouth if they're very hetero and not into it. But like, I don't know.

Close your eyes and pretend it's a girl. Like if I was stuck in jail, I'm sorry, and I was a guy and I was totally straight. I'd like guys blow me if I was stuck in there for five years. Like you wouldn't? Like who wouldn't? You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. Like I said, a dick in your ass is a different story.

I probably do that in prison too. But I'm just saying like a guy that, like if you ask that question, like you're 10 years, you're stuck in jail. You wouldn't even let a guy blow you? Like, that's ridiculous. You know? It sounds ridiculous to me too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So, okay, you did that. And so, and then the cream pie thing. you enjoy. And is it because it's just like dirty and like hot in the moment? Yeah. So that's one of the things that I've also discovered is both of us like me and my wife. We both like things that are, that feel taboo, right? Yeah. Yeah. And we're all about it. So we try to move in that direction for sure. Yeah, it's great that you're both on that same page. You know what I mean? Like you're both kind of into going in that direction. Because sometimes, you know, some people maybe don't have that sort of vibe, right? You know, and if one person is, you feel weird about it. But your wife is into it.

She's the one that, and she likes when you do the cleanup job, right? Yes. She loves that. Right. Okay. Yeah. You know, the greatest thing about it, though, is like when you meet another person, you don't know how it's going to turn out. What do you mean? Sexually. What do you mean? Well, it's like when you first meet somebody, like, we didn't know this about one another. Like, we didn't know each other that way. Right. You didn't even know yourself. that way either one of you. Totally, totally. It's just so interesting.

Yeah, it blows me away every time I think about how interesting it is that we, just together, we discovered this together about each other and about ourselves together. Yeah, and all it took was what? Talking about it, right? Communicating and then actually like trying things out, you know? Yeah, and that's... Yeah, go on. And that's what I want to tell everybody, too, you know, like it's really great to have this

resource. By the way, you've made us, listening to your show, we've done a lot of stuff just thinking like, oh, that sounds fun. Let's do that. But I would say that, you know, one last little story if you have time. Of course. Okay. Let's do one last one. So fast forward 13 years. We were listening to one of your episodes. And one of your guests had said that her husband had asked her if she had anybody that she would want to get together with. And she said, well, there is one guy. And she did that. And so my wife and I were listening to the episode in the car.

And she said like, well, for me, it would only be this one guy. And I said, well, why not you shoot him an email? So a couple of weeks went by. And my wife's great this way because she doesn't always tell me everything. She tells me some things. And then she chooses like her little moments to tell me things, which is, love. Anyway, so a couple weeks go by and she says, hey, I just wanted to let you know, I emailed him. And I said, oh, okay. And so we, she said, let's just see what happens. Well, he contacts her

and they make arrangements to meet away alone. And so she goes and meets him. And she ends up inviting him to her hotel for a drink in the lobby. And so they're down there and I'm not there. I'm like far away. And they end up talking about old times a little bit and then they end up going upstairs and having sex. And so as part of her thing, they, and this is 13 years later. So, and then they end up having sex and, you know, he comes in her in the way that she likes to be coming, you know. And then she, after they're finished and they, you know, clean up and stuff like that, she calls me and tells me how it went and all that kind of thing.

And that was like, I think that's one of the most exciting times we've had in this, you know, doing this kind of stuff is that moment. And it was all psychological on my end. Of course, you're a little bit of a, you got that little cuck thing in you. that you know what I mean? I knew you would say that, yeah. Yeah, I have it. I get it. I kind of,

I totally understand it. And especially I think, you know, people that have a little bit of jealousy and switch it around will always kind of like little naughty thing set up like in this way. I don't know. I'm making, you know, uh, research, analysis is or whatever you get on and fucking go. I'm making like, I'm stating things with no basis of like research other than talking to people and I'm feeling a certain way myself that I think that it's typical for a person that's like that wired that way to kind of get off on these kinds of situations. But was it the guy?

You didn't tell me. Like, was it that same guy that you were jealous of before? Was it that guy that she was always talking about in the beginning? Yeah, it was the same guy. It turns out it was the same, that guy. And it was so exciting for me. Yeah. Yeah. So exciting. Yeah. And yeah. So interesting things come from that too. So I, you know, we use that in our own bedroom now, you know, and it's just, it's just really great. And so, like, she brought home her dirty panties from that night because he came at her. And then she just immediately put her panties on so that she could trade into the panties. And she brought them home to me.

Just, like, really great little details that, you know, like are just so hot to me. Right, right. And now, do you, because you like stuff like that a lot, is there solo play, like, on the horizon, more of that? And second question, are you guys ever going to make it to the Red Lake District? Is that still on the table? Or do you like, we don't need that anymore? You know, it's really funny because I don't think we need that anymore. But if we're in town, we'll drop by, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I do really enjoy her dating. We're not Polly. I have to add that. But I would say that I do enjoy her dating. It's very exciting for me. If she's interested in that, and she has had a little interest at times in doing some of those things. I do think one of the items that she's brought up lately is she would

like to, one of the more exciting times she's had in her life is when she went into a bar and just picked up a guy at the bar. And so we've been trying to make arrangements to figure out how to do that because part of her wanted me to be there so that I could watch from a distance. So we're having trouble with the logistics of that. But that's one thing that has been on the on the bucket list, I guess you could say. Yeah, that's a hot set up, like a scenario. Super hot. Yeah.

Like, even just thinking about it. I mean, I don't even know if we need to do it, but it's like so super hot to me. But, you know, I've also told her, I said, you know, if it makes it so difficult to make the plans to do that, like, you know, if you're just feeling it like while you're traveling or something like that, maybe we can do that, you know, or I'm open. I'm just very open to whatever. And it's honestly, all of us has brought us closer together, which. is very counterintuitive.

Well, not to me. It isn't I hear that nauseam all the fucking time. It's more counterintuitive to everybody else out there in the vanilla world, which is the majority of people would think the opposite, you know, and that's what I always say my show is here to say, Dr. Drew, that actually you can fuck other people and be married and be really close and it does it. It's not the demise of your fucking relationship. Sometimes it could be, you know what I mean?

But a lot of relationships that are vanilla. you know, wind up separated too. So what the fuck? I don't know. I don't, hey, we're just all doing the best we can. And, you know, I just really grateful. No, you're doing better than best you can. Okay.

You're having a lot of fucking fun. Okay. You're doing stuff that you probably never dreamed you were doing you and your wife. You know, second time is a charm for you guys, right? And you've never been closer to somebody. So true. So true. Right?

What's wrong with that? True. That's like fucking better than, you know, average. You're fucking living the dream, okay? That's what the people are doing in my show. They're having fun. Yeah, you know, I am also the king of the understatement. So you're absolutely right. Oh, are you? You're known for that? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your wife's going to laugh when she hears that part. She's going to laugh her ass off. Well, you know, it's really funny because she used to say, she's like, you sure do omit a lot of stuff. Yeah, well, well, she could come on and fill in the details, you know? Why isn't she going to come on?

You know what I mean? Let her come on and feel the details. Is she shy? Do you want to call in? She's not shy and she's an excellent storyteller. Okay. Okay. So then why is she not calling and tell me? I don't know. You know what? I'm going to ask her again, okay? I'll ask her again. Well, I'm going to ask her. Listen, Wifee. Okay. I love to get the story from the wife all the time. You know, it's always a very different story, you know, when I talk to the wife because it's, it just adds so much more to get the same story from both partners. So, you know, if, I'll just say she. I'm not going to talk to her, but like if she wants to come on, I'd love to have her on. If not, it's fine. You know what I mean? But it would be great to have her on too. But with that said, if you want to send me, because she knows you're calling in and you guys

listen to my show together, if you want to send me picks for my Patreon, you know the deal. You're my Patreon member, so you know the deal with Patreon. I will, yeah. Yeah, of course, of course. I'm already a member. So, yeah, I don't even need any free stuff. I just, I always support you. I love that.

And listen, and you know what the pictures for Patreon make them a little, you know, are rated, nothing X rated for. there, okay? That's too bad, yes. You can do the X rate on Discord because you're on Discord too, right? You said? Yeah, I've put a couple of little pictures up. Hey, by the way, we are, you know, if anybody's out there and here's our story that's

interested, please feel free to let us know that you like us. Oh, okay. Listen, I've had people, I don't know if you've heard some recent episodes. I have people that are hooking up with people from my show because of my show. so I know I love that you and I had a little messaging about that so I've been working on that yeah so we'll see if anybody you can sign up

for my Patreon and talk there my Discord now people could only get in my Discord if they join my Patreon annually not for one fucking month and then cancel the minute you get the link fucking assholes that's what they're all doing Fuck them totally join and stay It's worth it it's worth every penny you guys come on Exactly and it's not and it is pennies if you

think about how much content I create eight episodes a week of ad free, intro free, just, you know, you know, early pictures, all that shit, seven bucks. It's chum change. But, and you get a discount if you sign up annually. You get like 15% off. It's fucking nothing. But anyway, I don't care about that. Yeah.

Think about all the money you're spending going out and trying to, you know, get dates and stuff like that. Come on, man. Exactly. Anyway, listen, Matt, thanks so much for calling it. I love your whole story. And see, work on your wife. Okay, let her listen to this episode.

You will do. Love you, Kathy. Thanks for having me on. Thanks, Robert. Thanks for being such a great listener, loyal listener, and a great storyteller with a great story. Oh, thank you. Bye.

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