Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 167 - Christian Buys Used Condoms and Andrew is Crossing the Line Sexually with his Masseuse

Episode Date: February 27, 2017

Christian loves the smell of young guys' used stuff so much that he posts ads online looking for guys who can can buy it from. What kind of used "stuff" is he into? How much does he pay for this stuff? What does he do with the stuff once he has it? Has he ever hooked up with any of the guys who have sold him their stuff? Tune in to find out and hear the details of Christian's kinky fetish. Also, Andrew drops in to talk all about how he recently started to massage his masseuse while she's topless, during his massage.  What exactly is going on? How far have they gone? Will it lead to even more? Tune in to find out plus hear a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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because the first guy I spoke with, and I only got like maybe a half hour out of him or maybe even less. I don't really know, but it was a really interesting story, so I wanted to air it, but typically my podcast are an hour, so I'm like,

I'll just get another story to add on. And I have a friend who's been on the show before. So the first guy is this guy. I can't really, I don't want to tell you much about him because if I tell you the fetish, then you're just going to know. And it's just so interesting.

It's something that I never really thought existed. But this guy, has to do with smells. I mean, he's, his smell, what is that called? What is the smell called? Like, smell, sight, sound, sense? Yeah, his smell sense. His sense of smell is, you know, how he gets turned on sexually. And he has a fetish with that. And we talk all about that, what he does with that, how he does that. It's really interesting. And then I talk to my friend Andrew, who's been on the show before Andrew Einhorn. He's not anonymous because he's my friend and he does stuff that you go buy his books. He takes pictures of naked girls and he's on my show because he was telling me a story

just as a friend about how he's going to like he's really close to banging his masseuse and he was like she's a straight up legit masseuse, not a happy ending masseuse. So I'm like, oh my God. And he had her down to like really like close to like banging her, you know. And I was like, that's a great story. I want that on my podcast. It turns out that I mean, I don't know. why he thinks she's a legit masseuse. It's so obvious that he's going to a happy ending place. And we talk about that, but it's still a hot story because, you know, it is. Anyway, because I just think, I don't know, everyone has this massage fantasy, right?

A lot of guys, I don't know, I don't personally, but I people do. Or maybe I have had a massage fantasy, but not like I, yeah, I have actually. Anyway, so I, after I talked to the first guy, I forget his name, I talk to my friend Andrew about his masseuse story. And it's interesting too. So I'm going to be right back on with the first guy. Like I said, I forget his name and Andrew. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show?

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Hey Christian, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast. You're on Kathy. How are you? Thanks, I'm doing well. How are you? I'm good, Christian. Listen, I just did talk to you

for a couple minutes just to test my sound and stuff and I noticed like a slight accent. Are you German by any chance? No, I'm from Eastern Europe. Oh, okay. All right, cool. So listen, I found you on Craigslist. And I've been very curious and excited to do this podcast with you because I really want to know what the hell this stuff is all about, right? Because you posted an ad on Craigslist that I responded to and then you're like, yeah, I'll come on your show. I want to read the ad, right? Just because it's pretty short. It was, the subject I was looking for used student gear. And it said, I have a fetish for worn underwear and socks of college boys. I also buy flip flops, sneakers, et cetera, even use condoms. make me an offer love regulars. Okay, so we could just start there, right? Because it's so fascinating to me.

It's something, like, I mean, I just talk to somebody else with a fetish. Like, I respond to people that have, like, interesting fetishes, right? Because I feel like if there's one person out there that does that, there's probably so many others, right? So, you know, what is this whole fetish all about? And what does it do for you? And when did you get into it and all of that stuff? Well, good question.

Obviously, obviously I'm gay. And getting two young guys. How old are you? I'm 38. Okay. And I think it has something very erotic. Guy smells. So I also have a footh fetish.

So this all comes together when it comes to, you know, use on these soft, eat, footwear. So that's all very exciting to me. Right. So the smell, the worn underwear and the flip-flops and the sneakers and even the used condoms, right? I mean, so let me ask you this. How many people have ever sent you used condoms or send you this kind of stuff? Do you get a lot of hits?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, most of the time I actually need the guys on the street and I buy it there from them. What do you mean on the street? You walk up to people on the street. No. No, I mean, you know, they replied. Oh, okay. Then we said, oh, we meet here and there.

And then we did a guy, you know, have a brief of conversation, mostly for a little bit awkward at the beginning. And then, you know, I give them some money and I buy the stuff. How much do you pay? Like, seriously, like, say I was like a hot young 17. What's the age range you look for, I guess? What is college age range? Well, nothing. Obviously nothing underage. I'm very, you know, very respectful there.

I don't want to go there. You go with 18-year-old guys. Okay, so say I'm a hot 18-year-old that I respond to your ad, and I'm like looking for extra money for college, right? What would get me the most money? I would assume the used condoms, no? Or like, what would, what do you charge the most for? What do you pay the most for?

Actually, the rate is $20 for items, or apparel. Fox or a pair of undies, chalk strap. Normally for shoes, it's a little bit higher. Yeah. But that's about the going rate. I work, because of my foot fetish, probably I will pay the most for really nice white fox. Flipflops will be high on the list.

Right. And now how many times have, do you ever hook up with these people? Like, because you meet them, right? And they know kind of now what you're into. you see them on the street, right? And I feel like gay men are so much more open-minded and able to be open sexually, right, than the rest of the people.

So, like, how many times is that meeting and that exchange turned into, like, actual sex for you and that guy? Um, I buy some days. I like the guy, you know, the, the smell. The socks that he, uh, that he gives me. We hook up again. and then I might ask him, well, would you be interested in hooking up, actually? Mm-hmm. And I would say about 50% of things.

Right. And you don't pay for that. When it gets to be that, like at that point, there's no payment involved, right? That's correct, yes. I mean, you know, I might say, hey, you know, let's do something up, you know, buy a pale socks from you. And then it actually hook up. But that's kind of the payment for the material. Right, right, right.

And do most people bring, like, I mean, I would try to find as much shit as possible. Like, what's the most you ever paid one person? That's from the box. You know, for me, it's funny that what's really fascinating for me and exciting is actually meeting the guy and seeing the guy. And, you know, buying the actual kind of very... I normally don't buy involved. I do it on one basis. Right, I get it.

It's not like you're looking for, it's more the whole, like you said, like it's not just, it's like if you're talking about it as sex, right? It's not just the end result, the orgasm from it. It's like everything. You like the foreplay.

You like everything involved, right? The emailing, wondering what that person's going to look like, wondering what they're going to smell, like meeting them, then going home. I get it. It's a whole thing for you. That's right. Right.

It's not just about a choir, and going home and having like 15 things of the same person. I don't know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking it's so just transactional and about the money, you know, and you're like, duh, it's so obvious that it would be, you know, really about, like, what you just explained. When did you realize that you were, like, into this whole thing? Like, when did it become something where you're placing ads

and you're, you know, getting the stuff from guys? I really, you know, when I was in high school and, you know, and so on. So it developed that and I always liked it. But really, you know, placing ads and doing that, let's say, on this way, maybe, I don't know, five, ten years ago. Right. And now how long have you been in this country? About 10 years. About 10 years.

So when did you first realize you were gay, like, and then that you were like, you know, into all this kind of stuff? Oh, that I was gay. I realized I ran away when I was in TV 8 so you'd be very sexually active I was gay as they'd come

so so much no there was no there was no there was no in the closet time like you were never you couldn't have been in the closet even if you wanted to

well a little bit very very briefly at the very beginning but not for all right right so you were always out of the closet and and but when

did you realize that you liked feet first of all you know it's obviously feet and the whole thing is also related to me oh it is yeah yeah you know it's kind of bow you go you and all that stuff is related to that so that's open so but they're being submissive to you that's the aspect you like of it right no no oh you're being right I keep getting this confused I did an S&M conversation with someone right before you I keep getting my roles confused right you

You're the submissive one because you're literally like, you know, at their feet. Right. Right. And so you were, so are you submissive, like, across the board as far as, like, in your, when you have sex with men, too? Generally, yeah, for time, but I also have just, you know, playing the little sex. I mean, that doesn't play, you know, a nature role. Mm-hmm.

And so, but when, when did you get into, like, that you knew that socks and, like, you, what about the used condoms. Like when does that, when do you know that that is something that would turn you on? Or does it just, that's just like a no-brainer. Am I, is that a dumb, another dumb question? No, no, um, you know. Right. And you've gotten, I'm assuming some people have like sort of done that exchange on the street with you. Oh, yeah. Right. And I mean, it's so interesting because like you are in some city somewhere. Like I don't like to, you know, everyone's anonymous on my show, right? or wherever you live, right? Like, people are walking by and they're seeing, like, two people talking to each other.

They have no idea that, like, this is the kind of shit I like to think about, you know? You know, I think, I actually think that's part of the excitement. Right. It's a little bit over the edge. It's a little bit. Exhibitionist in a way, right? Yeah, I kind of like that. You know, a normal aspect is, and that's a little bit.

That's actually really an interesting part. I think most of the guys who give me, also whatever, they kind of like that. And I think they kind of like that somebody like something from them. That's so personal. That's so them.

And not only that, don't you think they also, the fact that maybe they're like, if it was split screen, right? And this was a movie, right? On one side would be like an hour later after that street scene, you'd be home jerking off smelling their socks, and they're home jerking off thinking of you smelling their socks, right? That might be, right?

Don't you think? No, I could really imagine it that there is really a strong element in this. And I think, you know, I kind of, when I meet the guys, they don't. to be, you know, they can't seem to be excited about it as well. I mean, some are very shy, a little bit unsure whether it's a scam

or anything like that. Of course. Which they turn not, but, you know, especially if I need them a couple of times, then they normally see a normal good guy. They get excited about it, and, you know, they say, oh, you know, have, I say,

do a pair of socks, can vary a couple times in the gym, then they really like you, you like them, and so long, so they really get into it. Yeah, I can imagine. I mean, I think my angle in the beginning was like, oh, if you're like a poor college student and you need a hundred bucks, right?

You just give you a couple things off that list and it's no big deal. But that's not how it works, like, right? So there's none of that. It would have to be, because you're saying, like you said, you're only, most of the time, you're not buying in bulk, right? You're just paying for that one thing.

because it's that whole experience for you. So for 20 bucks, nobody's doing that for the money. They have to have something in it for them as well, sexually, speaking, of that, right? I think you're spot on. And, you know, I mean, also, if you're one of the person who reads that section of cracks with, I mean, you're already interested in the way. Exactly. I don't know, in that aspect.

So it's a little bit self-selecting. How many times do you think, like, you've done this, like, transaction out on the street, you know, everything included, the condoms, the things, like, you know, hundreds, thousands, like, how many times? Oh, it's a good question. 100 to 24. Right. And what do you, like, what is the demographics of, like, the people? They're always young, right?

Do you get a lot of emails? I would assume that a lot of people that are not college age probably respond because they want to live out this fantasy as well and try to pass on as college. Have you had a lot of guys that's, oh, like, they're 40 years old and they show up and they give you, they're not really college. How about it must have happened, no? You know, it happens. You know, I really, if the guy is a good thing, you know, that's all cool. I mean, they're not religious about the whole scene.

But indeed, I have into younger, you know, guys. So I like that. And, you know, all the rest is kind of whatever. But, I mean, do you think that you're meeting up mostly with guys who are like openly gay or do you think a lot of them like probably like people would be so surprised to find out that they are and this is like a secret thing like do you get could you tell by the because you actually hook up with some of them right so you know do you find that some of the guys you're hooking up with are secretly gay and they're like you know straight in their regular

life or are these mostly like openly gay men I think about two or even less so you know so socially accept that I think there are, you know, less men anyway. And especially because you're fishing in the young pond. It's not like you're open. Like if you were fishing in the 40 and 50s, you probably find a lot more men that were on the down low. But yeah, these younger kids, you're completely right. Like in their generation, what is the big deal to be gay?

Like, nobody's hiding it, right? Exactly. Yeah. And now have you, so people get afraid that like you're a cop sometimes? Yeah, I've heard that that long. And, you know, I don't think there's anything illegal about the whole thing. But, you know, although the concern, you know, there could be a scam. They come to a point and nobody is showing up or anything like that.

So that was, obviously, I don't do that. It wouldn't be nice. But, yeah, you know, sometimes I get responses like, are you serious? Question mark? And I reply, yes, I am. But they want to just really make sure. nobody wants to waste his time right yeah no but like as far as smell like you must be like your sense of smell must be very powerful as far as like right because that's like a turn on for you right

you must have realized early on that that was something that you know there's like a trigger for you like that's really connected to your cock like your nose and your right like I mean I think everyone Some people are, it's more what they hear. Some people are very visual. I think a lot of people are very visual, right? But then you, like, I think everyone's abilities, right, or have different strengths, right? But your sense of smell must be very strong.

Do you find that in your life, like in all aspects? And so then it sort of bleeds into, you know, being aroused in your sexuality? It's an interesting, it's an interesting question. I am normally more of a visual person. Yeah, but everyone. Everyone's visual. Men in general, men especially.

I think even more so than women, and that's why, you know, whatever. But I think everyone's visual. So let's forget about that. But like, do you find that you just like in life regularly, like smells? Like it must be, your sense of smell must be very honed and very, you must be sensitive in that area, I would think. I think so. But I don't think it's so dominating. For me, it's more the whole.

you know, the whole thing together, you know. Let's say if you're in a locker room, you're looking young guys around you, you have to smell or, you know, the whole thing that's coming together. I think that's... Right. Now, do you ever get a guy, like a smell that you don't like,

or it's always appealing to you because it's a man and it's like every, because it's different, it really, each time it's like something new, right? I mean, or no, or do they all smell the same? Yeah, no, actually it's a good question. I can't remember that I ever had a smell that it really didn't like, you know, from candy that, you know, somebody has, you know, in a sexual context, too much of that body.

Right. And now, do you have regular relationships where you bring this, like, that, you know, where you have an exchange, like, are you in a relationship right now at all? No. And have you had any long-term relationships with guys? Yeah. Yes? Yeah.

And when you did, were you still doing this on the side and would you do it openly or did you just not do it while you were with your partner? I actually didn't do it. This is for me more, you know, something, a little tree. I'm very curious as a person. Uh-huh. I want to check this out. But it's not that, you know, it would be. Right.

Like you could not do it for three years of you dating somebody and be totally fine. Have you done other stuff on Craigslist? Oh, well, more of the kind of, you know, plain vanilla stuff that you're looking for guys there. It is a really good place for guys to find guys. The problem is, like, I have so many guys on my show that are on there looking for women, and it's like you're not going to find that many women on Craigslist. But if you're a gay man looking for men, it is a great place to hook up, right? I think so.

And it goes back to what you said. I mean, I think one of the, you know, interesting for me, positive things or how relaxed gay guys are about the sexuality most of the time. Totally. You know how many of my straight friends that are just like total massive perves that are just cheating on women all the time and doing all this crazies of them? Just like, you'd be so much happier if you were gay. Like, you know, I think a lot of men, I think gay men are the happiest sexually, really, if you think about it. because like the object of your desire is totally on the same page. I think men and women are very different in what they like.

I mean, not to say that there's women that are really, not there aren't women that are very open sexually. But I think that it does tend to be different. I remember a friend of mine once, a gay friend of mine told me this story that I'm just like, oh my God, if you told that story and like there were heterosexual people involved, it would be considered rape. Like he was on a bus going someplace. And I think they were going to like,

know, like a very gay, friendly beach place, right? So I guess everyone on the bus knows everyone else is gay, right? So some guy looks at him, and then he looks at the guy, and then the guy eventually pulls at his dick, and my friend looks at it, and he's like, oh, it's really hot, and then he pulls out his dick, and then they get off at the same stop, and then they fuck, and I'm just like, oh, my God, this is like a real story.

This isn't a porn. This is the shit that goes down, and I'm like, if I was on a bus, and some guy gave me a look, and then pulled his dick out. If that bus stopped and we got off at the same stub, like there'd be a cop involved. Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm not going home and fucking him.

Like, it just doesn't happen. But I'm sure, like, there could be a porno or like the girl does go home and fuck a guy because every guy would want that happen, right? Why wouldn't you want it to be that easy? Absolutely. I mean, it's a happy little family out there. So, of course, you have to be very tactful.

You want to be respectful. Everybody has his or her own, you know, boundary, right, yeah, uh-huh. But as long as the same for a coroner, you know, sexual freedom on the list. Yeah, exactly. And I think men are, and, you know, that's why I think gay men have, you know, I think they're more open to having, like, open relationships. But, like, look, you had a guy that was, like, into very banalous sex and you were monogamous with him.

But, you know, you find a lot more. sort of open relationships that are successful, you know, with gay men because I think that it's very hard sometimes for a woman to understand that sex doesn't have to be attached to feelings, right? Like that my guy could love me and fuck somebody else, but it doesn't mean that he loves that. Like it's totally separate, right? It's hard for a woman to understand that because we're wired differently, right? But I think if you have two guys together, they both know that to be completely true.

So what does it matter if someone goes fuck somebody else, right? like a lot of times maybe it doesn't bother the guy, right? I feel you know, the wiring is you can't really escape those patterns. It's very hard for both for good and for bad. But that really makes a big difference between men and women in this respect. Yeah, totally. Have you ever fucked a woman or like fooled around with a woman or were you always, what do they call it when you're like totally never,

there's like a name for that kind of gay person that has never even been with a woman? Like, have you, did you ever try? I did, actually. I had a girlfriend. It was very nice. But I clearly, I'm a very sexual person anyway. Uh-huh. But it was so clear for me what I really, you know, enjoy more, most of guys.

Right. So, yeah, I even better things out there in my little world. Right, right, totally. And that's like that whole thing where, like, everyone's maybe a little by, right? But maybe you're just like a, like, nine. 95% gay, 5% straight or like maybe even more. But like you're so yeah, you're going to, if you're sexual person, you're going to find that sex good as well. But it's not going to be like the ultimate for you.

How long did it? Was it just that one one? Did she know you were gay or like this was early on when you were younger? That was actually very, no, she didn't know. Right. She had no idea. Have you had open relationships in your life? Yeah, I did actually.

I mean, with guys. Yeah, yeah. so yeah absolutely what was your longest relationship that you had was it three years and was that relationship open yes and it played out totally fine like i mean you were fine with it and like let me ask you this because i was always obsessed with like the swinging thing and open relationships and always wondered about it and how it works and stuff and a lot of times and i think maybe this is more with heterosexual people that you know it has to be something that comes over time or way later, like after trust is built and stuff, like, in the gay community and, like, in your

relationships, does it seem, is it the type of thing that comes up very early on and everyone's totally fine with it? Or does it take a while before you trust each other enough to get to the place where you open it up? I think normally naturally, you know, pulling back what you said before, I think guys are just hardwired to have global people, right? Right. Variety. Exactly. I think that just comes. But in the very beginning of a new relationship,

well, you know, you're hooked on that person, but I think that naturally adds, you know, the sexual interaction after a while. And then, you know, if you have a person who is open to that mentally, then you know, so that's normally how this goes. And, you know, the concern is, of course, if you're really engaged in the relationship that you're losing the person because somebody you shows up and, you know, takes your place. But on the other hand, I mean, you have to make somewhat of a distinction between, you know.

Sexually attracted to someone and totally compatible with them on all other levels. Exactly. Right. Right. Just because you're a horning for someone doesn't mean that you're going to be able to get along with them. But the person that you're actually dating, you know. that you have other connections with, right? Like romantic connections and stuff like that.

That's it. I can't believe I thought you were German. You're so obviously not German with your accent. I wasn't listening properly before. Are you Russian? No, I'm Czech. Check. Okay.

It's kind of very close, right? Yeah. So what else? It's like literally, normally I have like a million questions, but it's just like your stuff is so cut and dry and so easy to understand. and so regular. Like a lot of times I have so many people on my show.

I don't know if you've Googled my show. Like, you know, they're living secret lives or stuff, and there's like a lot of sort of stuff involved, and I get really into it and dig further. But like with you, like I feel like it is what it is on the service. And that's like a good thing. You know what I mean?

Like, I don't know. Unless there's something secret, like you're not telling me. Like as a... No, no, no, no. I, uh, you know, actually, I... How shall I say, in the way, I have pretty relaxed, you know, view on my sexuality, I feel very at ease with it. So it's really not something, you know, I feel like,

I should say that, you know, it's such a big deal. I mean, I'm not sharing my, you know, my, um, my, you know, all my my my my my secret is everybody but you know it's not that it's such something so big that I have to to hide it right you don't think it's like you're you're you're not like there's no confliction with you as far as if like when you're sitting at home like smelling someone's socks you're not like oh my god what's wrong with me like you're completely fine with it right and I think that that's great though I mean like I told this guy that I was talking to before like that's why I do my show because I think

think people take sex so seriously and people, you know, torture themselves because of, you know, they're so afraid of like judgment by people because people are so judgmental, right? So that they keep things that they're just naturally interested in as like a secret life and they're doing it and they feel shame about it and all this stuff. And it's like, what does it matter what you're fucking into? I don't think it. And I'm not surprised or freaked out by anything. I'm just very curious. That's why I do my show. I love to hear about all this stuff. But I never think, weird like I never think people are anything because of it you know it's just the way that you are like so what you know but I think people have such a problem with it and and it's sad to me you know because people torture themselves by it and I think it's so great when you come across people like you or and other people that I've had on my show who are you know honest and okay with who they are you know and so you're ahead of the rest of the people you got to feel for the people that aren't you know, because I don't think,

I think we're kind of born a lot, in a sense that way, and sometimes we have just these little fetishes that we're into, and what does it fucking matter? Right. No, I think so that it's into. Right. Let's say, for what? For kids?

For children. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, that's, that is really sad. Yeah, totally. Right. That's criminal, yeah. Exactly. I don't want to want, totally.

You know, we're off, I mean, or nobody. Right. No, I know. I felt like, and people have gotten really mad at me, because sometimes when I've watched shows, like, I don't know, in a sense, and I think it's very wrong what they do and everything, but there's always a part of me that feels bad for them

because I feel like on some level, like, they, that was put, like, you know, that's in them. And they don't, like, I would, I'm like, sometimes I'm like, I'm so happy I'm not into that. Like, what if I was? You know what I mean? What would I do? Like, you know, it's like, it's like murderers.

Like some people are just put, like, have this like thing that's in them that I just think is not good and not right. And they're, they're, it drives them and it's more powerful than they are. And you hear this sometimes from these murderers or even the pedophiles where they're like happy to be caught because they don't even want to be that person, right? And they want to stay away, but they can't help it. So it's just like, you know what I feel for them. I have exactly the same because in a way, even though you understand the. person and sexuality comes to control. So, and lucky up who have, you know, just a strange feature or a fetish that, you know,

you could, you could just go there. Yeah, you could go there and feed it and it drives you and it's okay and you don't have to be afraid of it. Whereas if it's something like you said that is really bad and what do those people do? And like I said, I've thought to myself like, I'm glad that I don't like to murder people. What if I did? I went to, I mean to do. You know what I mean?

I mean, it sounds really sick. And at least me and you were on the same page, but there's probably people listening in the car being like, what the fuck, Kathy? I had a boyfriend once. We were watching a show. And I think it was like a rapist or something really bad, you know, something bad where I get that there are victims and it is really terrible.

Like forget about that. That's a given. But I think I was feeling bad for one of those kind of people and or I felt for like on some level, like what I'm saying. And he was like ready to break up with me because he just couldn't believe. you know what I mean that I had any kind of feelings for that person but I do and I see it in that way but like I said it doesn't take away from the fact that I know that you know especially if they're acting out on it I mean but like what do you do like I feel for them because I think that

probably they don't even like to be themselves you know what I mean I think I think so too it's a terrible yeah I've had just so you know I had this one guy on one guy on one And I had a guy recently on that want to fuck his mother. And he was completely fine with that. So it was a very different call. But I had one email from a guy who said, you know, I could only get off if I have, if I think about my mother and my sister. And I remember when I got that email, I never know anything about my people before I get on the show. I prefer to get on the phone with a total stranger.

That's how I get my content. But I remember feeling nervous. Like, I don't know how this is going to go or like, what if this person's like wants to use this as a forum to like get turned on? I don't know, you know, I didn't know where it was going to go, and it was my first time having that kind of a conversation. And I have to say, it was such an interesting call to me because this was a guy who his wiring got, like, because after talking him for a long time, I figured out, we kind of figured out where it came from possibly. And he just, like, got wired, like, improperly, you know, and he really didn't like it. And, like, I felt really bad for him, you know, because it's not,

he's not a sick pervert. He's somebody that has a problem, you know, and he knows it's a problem, yet he has it. And I have to say, I was so happy. I had emailed him at the end of the year, because I do like a where are they now kind of thing on my show. And he had completely kick the desire and come out of that. And it was like, I was really happy for him. But like I said, I had another guy on who had that desire and he was fine with it. So that's fine. And, you know, but, you know, for the people that have that desire and feel wrong, it's not necessarily. certainly like people judge them like oh that person's like devian or whatever it's like no that guy is like somebody who's trapped in a situation and he doesn't feel right about it and you have to feel sorry for him I felt bad for him he was a good guy you know with the problem and he solved it thank God yeah that's that's actually good kind of a really almost a price because in a way sometimes also have been factual about it's really exciting is that it's somewhat forbidden right I

It has that kind of fee aspect. I can, you know, even say that in my case, you know, with my fetish, a little bit conformated

because I know some people who think it's really outrageous, it's gross or, you know. Right, especially the people walking by when you're on the street. Like you said, like a part of that is,

that's a part of the turn on, right? It's like naughty. It's dirty. It's wrong. It's forbidden. I think that's just a part of that. But, you know,

come me back. Yeah, but I think and this is what I also like about doing my show because I can have like 10 or maybe 100 guys who cheat on their wives, but if you really talk to each one of them, every single story is completely different from the neck. So you just really can't ever like, you know, and it's

a different situation, you know? And I think with that guy, the way it happened and why it happened, it was easy, not easily reversible, but able to be reversed because of how it sort of was triggered and put in him to begin with. Whereas the other guy who was on my show who wanted to fuck

his mother, I don't like, A, he had no problem with it, right? And it was hot to him. And I think the way that it got imprinted into him at the age and that it just, it's too powerful to be changed. So I think everybody's different. You know, everyone's situation is different. So I think with him, I, I could see why he would be one that was able to change it because of how it happened, you know? But anyway. Yep. So there you go. So it was interesting talking to you about all this stuff, you know.

Thank you so much for calling in and explaining your ad because I was very, you know. And like I think I, like I said in the beginning, I was like trying to take it down so many different other places because I didn't really get it, you know, because it was very short and to the point. But I was like, what the hell is this all about? And, you know, it's interesting to find out. And now when I walk around the streets of New York, I'm going to be looking around. I mean, normally when I see two guys talking to each other and they're exchanging money and handing something over, I'm thinking it's drugs. But, you know, next time I'm going to think that might be a dirty sock or a dirty condom. Absolutely.

Look out for Ziploc bags. They normally bring it in Ziploc bags because it prevents smell. Oh, wait. So zip lock bags? Yep. Okay. And now what makes it for a hot situation for like the guys that are doing it? Like, do you make eye contact with that and look at them and be like, I know what you're doing?

And then, like, that's a part of the turn on. Or should I look away? I think it would bother me. People, you know, in the big city, they normally, or maybe anyway. So I think anyway, this is completely cool. Right. It's just a people. Look out for you.

Right. Well, no, I'm just going to tell all my listeners, like, you know, if you're ever out, you just don't know. That's what you just never know what's going down. that's, you know what I mean? Normally I'm like, you don't know that the person sitting next to you is like, you know, doing whatever, because I've had a lot of these kind of scenarios. But now we've added another one, like two guys on the street passing, you know, zip blocks to each other. It's not cocaine or weed. It's, you know, it could be a dirty condom. And, you know, it's always, you never know. You can't make this shit up. This is why I do my show. It's so fascinating to me. Thank you so much for calling in, Christian. I'll let you know what this airs. I'll send you a link so you can. listen to it if you want to. Sounds good. Okay, cool.

Bye. Thank you. Strictly Anonymous podcast. Okay, hey, so I don't know how I'm going to edit this, but because I'm combining this podcast with another podcast, and this is Kathy, Strictly Anonymous podcast, part two of a two-part podcast with Andrew Einhorn. Andrew Inhorn has been on my show before. You could listen to his episode.

It was called Andrew, like, teaches you how to get regular women naked. It was episode 33. It's not on iTunes anymore because they like delete episodes, but you could go to Lipson or someplace and just find it. It was a really good podcast. It was a great, great episode. Yeah, you didn't even listen to it. You're so full of shit. Doesn't mean it wasn't great.

Okay. Well, I listened to it and it is really good. And Andrew is my friend in New York City. He's also a photographer. And he had a show on Playboy TV. He had some books that he published. And it was because he was a photographer in the city who like would literally chat girls up on the street and talk them into going to, back most of the time to their place and taking off their clothes and getting naked for him.

And that's what the show was about. They followed him to do that because in all your books, right? You have lots of books out there. Three books. Three books. And by the way, it wasn't like I stopped them on the street and said, let's go back. You ready? And I go to their home 10 minutes later.

It was off in a day, a week, a month. But yes, the bottom line is why I did a naked photo shoot with them later. Right. But in that episode, we discuss all of that. I mean, that's why it was titled How to Teachers You How to Get Regular Women Naked. Because the women you would photograph Or all kinds of women. That's your thing.

The girl next door, the cute ethnic woman that you meet in a bar or coffee shop and that's in that agency or on the street or wherever. Exactly. All kinds. All different shape, sizes. Mostly young, because I told them recently you should go back to all the young girls and get them now. Because you did this like 10 years ago. It'd be interesting.

But you're not taking my opinion. I mean, you're not taking my advice. It is a great idea. But anyway, what we're going to discuss now because Andrew told me the day that he gets massages. Just let me just do the intro first. so then you could jump back. He gets massages and he recently has been like switching the tables.

Like it's getting really close that he's going to fuck this masseuse that is been giving him massages. You could say he's looking at me and he's kind of saying, maybe not, but they have been crossing the line. And so I was like, you know what? That would be a really interesting story because there's probably so many guys that get massages. I mean, listen, it's not the same when you're doing a happy ending and it's straight up,

you know, for a fact that that girl's going to, you know, jerk you off afterwards. This is a situation where it's legit massage that might turn into happy ending, which I think is probably hotter in every guy's real fantasy, right? For sure. So, because you're not even going to pay for that shit. Like, it might be happening. So you normally go to one girl. Like you never, have you ever had a real happy ending?

Yes, one and a half. What does that mean a half? It's a smaller orgasm. Two. Two. So two. Okay. But why did you say half?

Are you just trying to be interesting? Yeah. You don't just be normal. Okay. You don't have to, real people, regular, like, you don't have to be funny. Okay. You're naturally funny. Don't put it on.

Okay. So two. Okay. Two times you paid for it. But typically, you go and you get massages. What is it on a weekly basis? Monthly, because I have to save up $65. You know, it's not cheap.

It's hard for this Jewish guy to rationalize every week. I wish I could do it every week. But it's money, you know? So once a month, generally. Maybe six weeks. Okay. Okay. So you're making yourself sound very, like, not successful as a photographer if you can't.

of four, $65 only once a month and you're scrapping. No, it's a guilt. It's a luxury. It's like how much of a necessity is it? I could buy a lot of chickens and go to Costco for them now. Okay, great. So let's focus on the massage thing. So you typically get a massage once a month from a regular girl, right? I've been going to the same place for about seven years. Somebody turned me on to a place. I'm not going to tell you exactly where, but it's in the East Village of New York City. But it's not a happy ending place, right? It's not, but I think it's morphing into a maybe. And some of the women. do it and some don't. So it's a bit of a gray area. Oh, so maybe your girl that you're switching over is a regularly, like a happy ending girl. So you're not really transforming a regular masseuse into. But I'm not sure because I've never done this with her.

So I'm not sure where the boundaries are. Well, how do you normally know? Like, how does the guy normally know when it's a real happy ending place and he could say, hey, you know, more money? You can ask them. Or sometimes they will just literally go there and start to touch you. be like, if you give me more tip, it's okay to make love, yes, good? Bye.

And then. That's what happens. Yeah. Okay, but when you walk in, everything else, I mean, I've never done this before, so I don't know. And maybe other guys haven't. So you walk in and it looks very legit on the outside. Very legit. Very legit. But it is kind of obvious because there's only men in there. Are there any women? A lot. You'd be surprised. Every time I get a massage, there's usually a woman either there or coming in. So I get the feeling that it's like 30% women. Okay, but do you think they're getting happy endings? No, I really doubt it. No, right? No.

I had a friend who got a happy ending, but she got it from a guy. Ooh, that makes sense. Yeah, I don't know. It wasn't, I don't know. He like fingered her or something afterwards. It's awesome. Yeah, I guess for the guy to hear, you know. So anyway, so you've been going to a regular girl for a really

long time. You never got a happy ending from her. How come? No, she was very legit, the one I went to. Very young and wholesome and beautiful. Oh, my God. I would have been nice. But no, I don't remember if it came up, but I just got the feeling that this was not a happy ending thing with this woman. Okay, so you used her for seven years,

but recently you switched to a new girl. My woman started coming in at night and doing like a seven to midnight, and I like my massage is in after noon. Oh, my God. Okay, if you think that your regular girl isn't a happy ending girl, you're out of your mind because what do you think she's doing at 1130 at night? She made a child, and she's caring for the kid, and that was the only time that she could come in.

Yeah, she's jerking people off. Maybe she needs more money because of the kid, but trust me, there are no normal massages that are taking place at midnight. Well, maybe 11 p.m. Listen, they're open to 11 p.m. I really, you've got to trust me. Your girl has lost her virginity.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble. I think maybe you think that she's wholesome and that's a part of it. And like, you don't want her to be that girl, but she is. And so I think that's good news. If you want to go back and get a hand job from her, just show up at 11 o'clock at night.

She needs the money. No, that's terrible. No, that's terrible to say because I never put down prostitution or anything, but obviously there are people that are doing things that they don't want to do for bad reasons and that's really terrible, but that's not what my show is about. I just believe that, come on.

Andrew, if you don't think that they're doing, what do they do? What kind of massages are they doing at 11 o'clock at night? The same as they do at 4 o'clock in the afternoon. I've done massages at night with her, maybe 8 or 9 p.m. It wasn't at 11. I don't know if each hour changes. Yeah, but she probably knows that you don't want it because you've never sort of tried for it. Have you ever gotten hard?

Oh, all the time. What do you mean? get hard and she sees your hard, like dicks, just sticking out, like, from the towel or something? Yeah, pretty much. And what does she do? No towels. We go without towels. Okay, wait. Wait. So you're, okay, so you've been...

Well, listen, I could give you a quick evolution of things that maybe you don't realize. Yeah. And here's the thing is I love the massages for what they are, but I also love, and they would do this at the very end. I love fingernails on the body. I find out very erotic. And very sexually pleasing.

It's like being tickled, but it's even Yeah, yeah, total. Okay. Yeah. So they would do it for a minute, and then I got to the point I said, can you just do that for two minutes, maybe three minutes? After a while, it became like reserved five minutes for me and do this at the end, and I love it. And they're pretty liberal, so I don't know about everyone else, but eventually, like, the towel's off. And, yes, I really do get aroused.

And they just work around you, and they do everything. And I think it became enjoyable. It's like a tease for them. And I would, because my eyes are closed and I would look up once in a while, and I see her smiling. I think the fact that she's the same girl that you've. cross the line. No, but the one now that I am massaging, I had switched because she comes in in the daytime. So what happened? Focus, because you're getting, you're switching stories. Was your regular one with her nails on you? The regular one was with the nails. And that she maybe five minutes. So wait,

when I knew that she was going to the nighttime, I said, you've got to teach another woman what I like best. And there was one beautiful day, and this is a good story, where she brought in the other one. So for the last five or 10 minutes, I had two women literally giving me fingernails over my entire body. And I'm saying, this is good. You go lighter here, heavier here. Then one of the women started massaging the other woman. And I'm not kidding. Their clothes are on, but it just became this.

Were they giggling? Erotic, smiling. I wouldn't say giggling. While you're watching, was your Dick Hart at this point? Probably, but more from the nails. Watching one woman and massaged another with her clothes on isn't that sexy. It's nice, but no, it's the feeling of it. I get from those fingers.

Right, okay. So I started with the new one, and what I did with the old one also was, I felt so appreciative of how much work that they do. There's small people that at the end I would grab her hands, and I would just give her like a quick hand massage. And maybe that moved to the shoulders a little bit, and they know me, and they trust me, so she would even point, like, oh, here, here, here, here.

So I'd give her a little massage, and then it kind of faded out. But when I went to this new woman, the same thing happened for five minutes, and they'd like it. So I started doing that. She's pointing to the shoulders, arms, and at one point, maybe six months ago, I had the guts to say, oh, get on the table, get on the table. You can't sit there while you're standing in this small booth and get to your body. It doesn't work.

So I don't know if it was lucked in or not, but you got it on, and then it became five minutes, and then it became ten minutes. And honestly, I enjoy massaging other people. And because I've done it so long, I can see what they're doing in my mind. And I want to put what they're doing in my mind. Maybe I find a goal for me. I feel Needing someone's body or legs and your arms and hands and feet

And I like a whole body part so I kind of get into it and you can feel them Melmelt means like it on I'm personal I think it on time This is continued and now we got to a point where I mix massaging with a little bit of the same tickling Because I like that too We're talking about that essential things I get off and doing the same thing to them that they do the

And I really enjoy it. So, and she seems okay. But a lot of people I've done it. They're like, yeah, I don't like that. But some really like it. Like me. So we put retinal to a point where I've given her massage and then moved on.

And then gradually at some point, it's hard to get to someone. I made her look up with shirt. Made her take off her bra. This is where I was like, oh, I want this on my show. Because she's now getting topless. What about the bottoms? Does you have? Bonds stay on.

And, um. Yeah, the other day I tried to like pull down her pants because I love the butt and I was trying to get to her butt. And it's weird because one time she was okay with it and the last time she said, no, no, no, no, no. And I, it was fun because we have this playful interaction. I literally like slapped her hands. I was like, come on. I'm your dude. Just whatever.

Move your fucking hands away. And let me, and I tried to, and then she wouldn't go for it. So I tried three times to pull down her pants and then she didn't do it. But, and then at the same time I'm like, all right, if I can't get to this, I'm putting my hand underneath your pants and I'm going to squeeze. you anyway. And that was fine. At one point, I have her flip over, or as we say, frip over. And I'm doing...

Stop. So I'm doing the same thing, but I noticed I could sort of, as I'm doing this teasing thing with my nails, I sort of literally rub it over her private parts, and she was okay with that, too. So having clothes on seems to be a safe zone, even if I am touching her. Yeah, but you have gone underneath her pants and grabbed her ass. Yeah, on the aspart, not on the other side. Do you know if she's getting turned on?

Oh, I don't know, but I really assume. Yeah. Because she's melting and you can see it and someone's eyes are closed and you feel their body go limp. Like, this feels good. Yeah, but listen, I could do that when I'm getting a regular massage and not be turned on. It just feels good. Do you know what I mean? I don't get turned on by massages when like a regular person does it.

Okay, this is true. But if someone's letting you, I mean, I'm doing her boobs and I'm not. Okay. So what are you doing to her tits? Well, I'm sort of as I... First of all, what size is she? Her breasts. Oh, I'd say she's a B cup.

They're small, but they're lovely. Okay. I'm just trying to give my listeners a visual. Okay. How hot is she? One scale of 10. She's pretty hot, which makes it better. How old are you really young?

And I'd say she's 24 to 26. Okay, cool. So she's young. And she doesn't speak great English, so that's even better, you know? Every guy has to see. Oh, yes. Yes. None of them speak good English.

come on down. It's located. Why not? I mean, it's a legit place. What's the big deal that you can't say the name? Oh, I don't want them taking my masseuses. Oh, I hear you. Okay. Don't steal my girls. Don't steal my girls. There's tons of these places in New York City. They're all over the place. And everybody thinks they know their place. Oh, I got the best place. It's only 50. It's 60. It's 40. I know the best place to go. Everybody has to the best pizza. I know the best massage parlor. I had guys at my roof, the lifeguards of my roof of my last building that would go to like a whorehouse where they would get fucked by. a girl for like $50 in New York.

That sounds fun. I was like, how busted are those girls if they're only charging $50 to get screwed at 3 o'clock in the afternoon? But these guys like swore by it. Like these young guys were going there. But anyway, I have to focus. So you got to the point where you got her clothes. So it isn't really, because I thought the story was going to be like how you're changing

over a real regular massage into a happy ending. I think they're just fucking with you because they're probably jerking off the guy before you and the guy after you. They're probably sitting on other guy's faces and you're just getting all this bullshit because they know that they're going to get the same money from you just by doing that. I think you could take it further is what my point. I will try each time I go back to push the limits and see where I can go. I really don't think. I think there's going to be a limit and that's it. Also, they don't have that much time.

So if someone's right after me, you know, they can't. Sometimes people have come in and they have to go, oh, I got to go because the next person's here. So they can't just give me endless time. You know, I don't know to the extent of her body. I've gotten to the point where her front, I am sort of massaging and tickling, and I've touched her boob and felt excited nipples and fell her melting in my arms. But I don't know how far I could take it. So you massage her tits, like she just lays there and you massage. Are she eyes open or closed?

Does she moaned? No, no moaning. Okay. But at the end, I'm not. A deep heart felt thank you where it's like, thanks. That was really nice. And your heart, when you're hard and you're laying there, have you gotten to the point with this one where your towels off and you're totally naked with her?

Absolutely, of course. Okay. And now what, she just grazes over it. She doesn't touch it at all. She doesn't say, oh, for the extra, like she never, the new one never tried? Yes, about six months ago. And honestly, I don't like, I find it, even though I'm very liberal guy, I don't like, I don't, it's a little awkward for me getting jerked off in the place.

And sometimes it might take me a longer time and then I feel guilty. And I would rather just masturbate when I go home later. I want a great massage. I love this interaction. I like getting hard while I'm there and it's all exciting. But it's like crossing that line to having an orgasm is a different thing for me. And I know I'm in the minority here and people are like, what are you fucking talking about? But that's what works for me.

You know what a guy explained to me on a podcast and I don't know if I'm going to air this one before or after that one, but it was very interesting. He had told me he was doing something, you know, that was very. sexual and hot as far as he was concerned and he would just get hard the whole time but he would never come and I was like oh what like why not it's so weird he's like wait before you like jumped down my throat this is the reason he said because like in the middle of doing this like sort of dirty illicit fetish thing that he's into I just don't want to give it away in case I haven't erred it he uh he didn't want to like because you know after you like come like you're like in reality and you're like oh my god what did I just do like oh you know and you're just completely back to normal

and you might get freaked out so he's like you like you're like you're like you're I don't want to come in the dungeon, you know, and be like, oh my God. And, you know, he's like, it kind of ruins it. So he leaves turned on, you know, and then he said he gets hours of pleasure. And then it slowly goes away. And then he uses that for the next two days to jerk off to. And I was like, you know what? It kind of, I totally get that.

Absolutely. Do you think that's the same for you? Oh, absolutely. And it goes to my naked photo shoots too because those are so sexy and erotic. And I'd rather sort of masturbate to it later. and especially when I'm looking at this beautiful pictures and video that I create, which to me are so sexy. Yeah, why don't you give out your Vimea? We'll give out that at the end of the podcast.

We're going to be a quick one. Yeah, go on. Because you have a lot of pictures. Like, you're, I think your videos are really hot for people that are like into exhibitionism and stuff like that. Because you really see regular girls get totally naked and interacting and talking in their own environment. It's a very different thing. It's like you could use it as porn. And I just send you a bunch of samples.

Yeah, you could use it as porn. Sure. But, you know, in a way, they're very hot, I think. It's like a, if you have a, it's like a specific niche, right? Yes. You want to see regular people, a girl down the block. But they're hot. They're hot.

They all have really good bodies, but they come in all different shapes and sizes because you're, you're that way. Yes. But back to your massage thing. So, okay, so you don't, you've never, so she tried to jerk you? She did once and I, and she did it for a little, and I was like, okay, enough. I'd just rather not. And maybe part is the money, but part is the way you.

just said that it becomes a little bit awkward and as I said it might take me you know 12 minutes and I don't want to sit there I almost feel guilty like all right and I I'm better at myself so I'd rather do it myself than have someone else so you just take those thoughts of that girl like how many times do you think you've jerked off to her ironically it's not jerking off to her it's just getting like a really aroused and then carrying that arousment back home so I might jerk off to something else once I'm home oh I see she's the appetizer yeah she's the appetizer yeah she's the It's like you're building up. I'm sure it's the same for women, right?

Maybe you get really turned on by something, a conversation, a hot guy. Yeah, you use something else to get you over the edge. Right, right. Okay, why do you think it takes you 12 minutes? It would take you so long to come in that experience. I think we've touched upon this in your first episode. You might have like some issues with sex. I don't think we could get into it on this one.

And now that you said good, I'm like almost tempted to go there. Because you do have some issues with sex. You're obviously heterosexual, right? Yes, I'm 90%. 90%. Yeah, we've discussed it, but you've never been with a guy. No. And you don't plan to?

Well, I'm keeping the possibility open. It would take a very specific person and situation, and even then I'm not sure. I might end up liking it, and then part of me thinks, ew. So there's sort of a... Yeah, but let me ask you this with the guys and this is taking a total term, but that's fine. Sure. You know, if you picture a guy, like, you know, in a guy-on-guy action for you, like how far would you want to take that,

you know, sexually speaking to turn yourself like, like full on? For me personally? Yeah, for you. No, for you. Like, if you're wildest fantasies, if you found the right perfect guy, right, and you got comfortable, I'm not talking maybe the first time

because maybe you're going to need a little while, you seem like that type. But, you know, maybe you're going to work towards it. Are you the type person that would go all the way? Because I have a lot of different guys on my show that they're into all different specific things. Like, I only want to get a blown, or I only want to blow guys or only want to a dick of my ass

or I don't want a dick in my ass like it's all those things I think it's right it's some of those things I the ass it just seems Yeah but what about you fucking the guy in the ass that's like being a top? No I couldn't do that either So you're not on top or a bottom Yeah neither one I could see Possibly a blow job going one way or the other Right right right probably me to them

Because I think it would be awkward the other way around I mean I can acknowledge men that are good looking Or have a nice body or have a nice dick And therefore it's like all right well that maybe I could see doing. But at the same time. Them doing it to you? It seems though that you have a weird thing

with anyone doing anything to you. Oh no, women? No. Women? Well, why not the happy ending girls? Again, it's come down to a sort of a technical... Okay, so when you're with a regular girl that you're sleeping with,

like your neighbor, whoever you're screwing at the moment, you are fine with them doing stuff to you? Yes. Yeah, you kind of shook your head. So, you know, back and forth, not like a totally... That's what I'm saying. You do have like a little issue.

Sure, I got lots of issues. No, but you know, since my show, we focus a lot on sex. I'm always curious about sexual issues because, you know, like they exist. Yes. So I might have dated someone like you and been like, what the fuck does that mean? You know, and went back to her girlfriends and like, I don't understand it. You know, but it's like there's so many different people with so many different things and a lot of people personalize stuff, but it's really mostly about that person, right?

Your thing is you might have, and this is, I'm just trying to help you here. You're my friend. Take this to your therapist who you think is in love. love with you. You might think that, you know, you might have a thing with someone, like people doing stuff to you, as opposed to you, you know, so maybe, no, okay. Because I love those hands, getting massages and getting somebody's hands all over me. No, I'm talking about taking it to the, you know, because you think like, I'll blow somebody, but I don't want to be blown. Like, I'll give them a massage. I like to do that. But that's with a guy. That's that very specific, specific

separate issue. Okay. So with women, it's different, but it comes down to, to orgasms a lot. And what feels easy. I'm just really good at it myself, and I enjoy that, and it's a shorter period of time. And sometimes when you be with another person, this could be hours. And I find myself like, it's just too long. Well, yeah, you know, women with foreplay and a this and that. I don't know, I guess I get into shorter things. I've gotten to more fetishy things of late.

I love tickling, and I like spanking, and I like kind of roughhousing with a woman and fucking around that way. And I enjoy that. And I like that both ways, too. a little role playing. I think I'm more into physical interaction with them that I'm doing it to them. But I don't mind it to me either. I've never had a woman sort of, you know, spank the shit out of me and flip me over and abuse me or stuff. But role playing where someone is sort of dominant and you're a little bit more submissive.

I like that too. And didn't you fuck your neighbor recently? No, he's 83. No, a girl, a woman in your building maybe, no? No. When was your last sexual experience? With a woman? overseas in Israel four months ago.

Oh, okay. Four months ago. All right, that's good. Full on, everything? Yes. Okay, and it was good. Everything was normal. Was there any spanking or any of the stuff that you were into?

No, it was loving and pleasant. And it was nice. Okay. Well, all right, so that was your massage story. So where are you out with that? Like, you're at the point where you're massaging her breasts. Well, I love this because I feel like we've gotten to a comfort zone where she feels, this is obviously different from most people, especially the masseuse.

So I feel like, okay, she trusts me, which is a big issue. She loves my massages. I get off on doing it. How far I can take this, I'm really not sure. I said to her once, you know, as we leave, next time this offer, next time this off. I can't have your pants on. I can't massage your ass if your pants are on. You know, whether she would go for that or no.

Yeah, there's, I don't remember. There's probably smiling or chuckling or okay, but then. But don't you think if you offer her a little extra cash, or is that just assumed that if she's going to do that, then there's more money. Can you say if I tip you a little bit, can you please take your I never thought of that? But yeah, maybe. It seems weird that I should be paying them more money to do something that pleasures them. Well, because it's really for you. It's really for you. It's both of us. She loves it. Okay, but it's really for you, like for you. She's at her work. Like, you're not on a date with her. That's what you need to remember. She's at her job. Okay. She's,

she needs some cash, okay? She's got a life. She does this for a living. This is your business. Like going into a deli and saying, could I have free bread? Like, why? I mean, that's their job. I understand, but if she's going to sit there for two hours waiting for the next person to come in while she could be massaged by this handsome, middle-aged guy that feels great.

Does that the money ruin it for you? That me paying them? No, not at all. Okay, so what I'm saying is like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I don't want to pay her extra to have to massage her. Because you're cheap or because it takes away from the fantasy? Because I'm cheap and I'm cheap and I'm working. It's work, man.

My arms and. hands are aching afterwards. It's work to massage somebody. This is the problem. You've already given that for free. Okay, so she's not going to all of a sudden, like you can't, you fuck that up a long time ago by massaging her. You know what I mean? But the action at the end, the last five minutes, she's not going to take a long time, okay?

Because she has people waiting and you're paying her. Okay, she's a professional. So if you say a little tip money, a little tip money for your pants to come up, right, and do a little bit more. Trust me. That's the way to go. I will look into that. I like the suggestion. I'm not sure it'll work, but I'll test the water.

100% will work. I know for a fact, you want to make a bet? $10. And the glory and just come back on my podcast and give a two-minute phone conversation that I was right and you were wrong. Sure. And what happened? I just have to get her pants off. Is that what you're betting?

Oh, that's a whole other thing. There's no way. I'll take that bet. She's not going to allow that. Oh, my God they do. I have friends that I've had happy endings and they finger the girl. Absolutely. In like that.

Really? Uh-huh. I mean, maybe it's not common because maybe that's why my friend told me about, I recently had a friend told me about an episode where he did. So maybe he told me that. that because it's not common normally that doesn't happen? I don't know but I tend to doubt it. Now that I think as you were saying that because maybe two times ago I remember there's a

period where we look at each other, she looks at me and I think is she going to kiss me? We're really close and she's got this warm look in her eye and I'm thinking I don't want to do it because I don't want to scare her away. But then one time as I was doing her front I think I went, used my mouth on her breast and she was like, no, that's, you just crossed the line. You can touch, you can massage, you can tickle. But when you put your mouth on something, we're crossing a line. She said that?

No, she didn't say it. Well, she said like, no. No. It was like, get the fuck off me. That's, you just crossed the line. Right. Okay, well, maybe, but I just think that if you pay more and more, like, you know, like eventually lines could be crying.

Like, you don't know how far she'll go. How much I have to pay? I don't know. How much do you normally have to tip for the extra? Massages are 55. I usually give her 65 or 70. Okay, but what would you give when you got the happy ending of those two times? Well, they'd like, I don't know.

I don't know what the lines are. They'd probably like $30, $40, $50. Oh, just to jerk you off. Oh, God, so then you'd have to pay a lot more if you want to finger them. Right, but. Well, next time you say, you take your pants off, I give you extra money. Okay. You know, try it.

All right, so maybe no fingering. Can I take that back? Nope. No? All right, I say $45 do you get finger her. I'll give you the money. If you can, this is the deal. No, if I'm right and it's $45, you should pay me.

Or the podcast will pay you. Like, I don't know. $45. Okay, so I'm offering her $45 to finger her. That's what's, okay. We've got it. It's on the table. If she says yes and you pay that money,

the strictly anonymous podcast will refund you that money. Okay, great. As long as you come on the show and tell that story. Okay. It's a five-minute story. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, what's a shame? No, no, no.

I was just thinking I always try to take her picture. The other one, oh, the first woman that I had for five years, I did a photo shoot with her once, and I was about to get her naked, and then her father called, and it was a whole other story. And she ended up crying for 45 minutes, and I drove her back to the massage parlor. But that's a whole other story. Oh, I'm like, what do you mean? But this one, I was just trying to do a little selfie with her, and she wouldn't allow me to do it. And part of me was thinking, oh, I wonder if she's, like, illegal and she's afraid that I'm going to use.

No, but there's a million reasons why she wouldn't want a selfie. Like, come on. Imagine you post that on social media or something. Like, maybe nobody knows what she's doing. That's crossing a line right there. I don't think you can even put a dollar amount on that shit. That's you hot. You can't do that to those girls.

No, $10? No. $10? No. Especially not their face. Okay. Do I mean?

No, that's not cool. $45 for the fingering. But like you're not paying it and not getting the finger. Like it's only, I'm only refunding you if your figure goes inside. Do you know what I mean? If it's a fail and you get jerked off or something else for that, that's your money. All right.

So tell people where they could go see these hot videos. I think they're hotter than you think. you know, for real. It's someone looking for light porn. And I just added four galleries of one woman, which I've never done before, because the beginning of her shoot to me was so good, and I love this woman.

She's sexy, and she opens herself up, and she's so honest. Do you have a black woman that you said? Yes, yes. There's four galleries. Anyway, the site is called Vimeo. V-I-M-E-O dot com, which is a very common video site for professionals, and then forward slash naked, happy girls.

It's a very easy thing to remember. Vimeo.com forward slash naked happy girls. I'll post it on my Twitter too. People could love it. I have about 50 clips that are about three minutes in length. I could add another 500 if I had the time to do this. And people have said you're wasting your time. You should be making money from this.

You're giving it away for free. And I'm like, but I like it. And I get two to three million hits a year. So people really like my stuff. Yeah. I think like I said, because you were saying before, like it's okay. Like people, I think people, I think it's hard. hot. And nowadays, with all that porn out there that people can get whatever they want,

I think sometimes it's like really hot to not go so far, right? Because it's like everything's on the table. For sure. And when I go to other Vimeo pages, because there's a lot of groups and they all follow each other and they all like me. And I look at theirs and it's like, oh, here's a hip hop song to somebody stripping on a bed. How many songs can we see? And well, girl, I don't know nothing about her. My people, what's special is you get a sense of who they are. So you get to to see them naked. They're very sexy, but they open themselves up and they reveal themselves. Right, and you're in their house. I'm in their house.

So you see where they live, to make them feel comfortable. They're like regular girls that live around the New York City area. New York and around the world. Oh, yeah, around the world, right, because you travel a lot. Okay, cool. So go to that Vimeo, and then, you know, we'll touch back with you after you go for your next. Write me a note. Say, oh, I heard you're on the podcast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, I don't know when I'm going to air this, but we'll say. Okay. All right, thanks for your story. Thank you. I mean, it's okay. It'll be better when you figure her.

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