Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 170 - Wayne Stumbled Upon a Hardcore Lifestyle at a Very Young Age

Episode Date: March 20, 2017

Wayne stumbled upon a woman who introduced him to swinging at a very young age and he's been living a hardcore lifestyle ever since. He's been a swinger, dated a famous porn star (Glory Foxx), done porn himself (well kind of), dabbled into bsdm, had multiple polyamorous relationships and done a whole lot more. Tune in to hear all the juicy details plus hear his advice on how to get your girlfriend to be cool with an open relationship. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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unprofessional advice or we just kind of talk about people's secret lives that they live or their interesting lives that they live. This is a guy, the guy I have on today, actually, his name is Wayne. And I had posted an ad on Craigslist looking for people to come on my show. And he emailed me and was like, I'm totally down and I have a lot of really good stories for you. And it turns out he did have a lot of good stories for me. This is a guy that was like, as he would say, living a very vanilla life when it comes to like sex and relationships. And then at a very young age, a pretty young age, he got introduced to a totally like hardcore lifestyle. And he's been, sort of living that kind of lifestyle ever since. And he's had a lot of really interesting experiences

that most guys probably would just fantasize about him. But he's actually lived them. Some are funny, some are interesting, some are kind of drama filled. But, you know, all of it is definitely interesting. I say that word way too much. And this isn't the first time I've noticed that about myself. But anyway, I'll try to get some synonyms for interesting. Anyway, but I'm just going to be right back on with Wayne. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story, and your anonymous name.

And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. No, hey, Wade, welcome strictly anonymous podcast. Your own and Kathy, how are you? Hi, Kathy. How are you doing? I'm good. So, Wayne, let's get talking because I have posted an ad on Craigs is looking for people

to call into my show and you responded and you were like, oh, I could either give your listeners advice and, you know, or I have a lot of stories for you. And you had, like I mentioned a lot of things. cast that you could talk about as far as stories are concerned. Because you've kind of been there, done it all, right? And started at a very young age, right? Oh, yes, I bought a T-shirt for it, too.

Yeah, I started around 19 or 20, actually. I got, met this girl back when I moved, I just moved from Florida up here to Massachusetts, and that Bible Belt transition. Right. And I met this girl. It was online. I think we'll see like a Yahoo chat room or somewhat.

And we ended up meeting up. And normal relationship-wise, being extremely vanilla at the time. Come to find out about the end of the night, you know, when things are starting to get a heap, it's just like, oh, I'm married. Like, oh, that's nice. Did your husband know you here? He's, oh, yeah, we're swingers. We're in this lifestyle and it's totally cool and accessible.

And to me, you know, Mr. Vanilla's Southern boy here with my traditional values at first. I thought it was extremely, extremely hilarious and strange at the same time. But it was a little bit surely she started bringing me to parties. And then it just shot from there. So you started, so how old was she at the time? Like, do you remember how old she was that first? Oh, yeah. She was 38.

And she was hot? Yeah, she was hot too. And she had been doing it for, she had mentioned, like, she was 22. So that was like back in the 70s and the 80s, which that kind of thing back then. I mean, the whole sex craze of the 70s and whatnot and all that, you come to kind of like expect it. Yeah, don't you think? Like, that's when they had words like hump and I don't know. I love like 70s words for sex.

Like, I don't know why, but I love the word humping. Like, I don't know. But yeah, there was a lot of sex going out in the 70s, right? Yeah. And so usually when you come to think of like what swinging is now and everything else in a lifestyle it is to now, back then it would be probably more hush-hush but it wasn't so much

but yeah she was kind of like the relic there of the lifestyle and so you got it on with her and then when did you get introduced to her husband and then the swinger parties I'm assuming that just happened really fast

the husband was actually a really funny story so we had been doing this little thing where every weekend on a Saturday husband would be home that was strange at first and we would go down in the basement and chill out, watch our show at the time was actually lost at the time.

And we watched lost and then fool around, whatnot. This has been going on for like a month. I want to say probably like the sixth or seventh time it's going on, we're in a basement. You realize there's little windows all around the basement. And I remember I was on top. We were going at it, going strong. I look up and all I see is a face and eyes. So that's when I discovered.

what cucking was. Cuckled it, right? Yeah. What she wasn't telling me is the original intention was for me to be the bull in this situation, which I gave her posture. I probably couldn't wrap my head around it at that point. And that her husband gets pleasure from watching. Oh, my God, that whole time that face was in that window and you hadn't seen it before.

Every time, too. And I looked up and I was like, oh, my God, there's so much. They totally lost it up. Oh, my Lord. And then that actually... Imagine what the neighbors thought if they looked at their window because he was probably like jerking off too while he was watching you, do you think? Because these lower basement windows is always like ground level.

So I can only imagine he was on all fours with one dick in his end and then the other one just... Spying in on his own house. Do you know what I mean? Because they knew it was him. He spying it on his own house. Yeah. That's great.

So I was too vanilla to absorb that one, so it kind of spelt the end to that thing. But curiosity killed the cat. I started going to party. And that's when I met. I can't say her name and put her on blast there, but Gory Fox, the porn star.

Yeah, you put that in your email, and I Googled her. She's that huge. She's huge. Like, she's a BBW. What does the hell does that stand for Big Beautiful? What is that? What is BBW?

What is a big, beautiful women? Okay, she's a big beautiful woman, right? Yeah, and then that little subgenre of porn It has like its own like queens and kings there And she, right, uh-huh Yeah, she's one of the top I think it's Bunny LaCruz Uh, Glory Fox

And a couple others With like the big name ones in that In that area Yeah, and that's like, okay, are you a BBW BBBB what do they call men? BBMs? Like what the fuck is a, what would they call a guy that's like really big.

You're you touch it on something really interesting. I don't know. As much as I've been like bumping, rubbing elbows with people in porn and stuff like that, I don't think they came up with one yet. They just call them fat guys.

Yeah, they call them well no, the gay term is bare. So for a straight term for a big guy. Yeah, like girls who are chubby chasers. I think he should trademark this. Yeah, totally BBMs. Like, why wouldn't they just be BBW, BBM?

You could do it because that's the world you lived in. Like after you, I don't, I'm assuming maybe, because you also said you did porn and you were on a lot of porn sets. And I definitely want to talk about that. So, but let's start off with the Glory Fox girl. Is she the one that got you into the porn thing? Or did you meet her before she was doing that stuff?

Oh, no, she was in the middle of it. So we're talking itself. And I don't know how the first night this one split me, but by the second night she was like, oh, so you're okay that I do modeling. Wait, but wait a second. The reason why I brought up BBMs is I wanted to know if you were a BBMs or you're just a regular guy that has

sort of like a fetish for bigger women. Yeah, that's your doing. Raised by all the women down south, moms and aunts and uncles, there's all bigger people. So I was naturally attracted to bigger women. Uh-huh.

Okay, cool. So you were into it. I'm normal. I'm about six three and about 200. Okay, cool. So you see her at like one of these swingers parties? Mm-hmm. And we start talking.

and stuff like that. Really nice girl, everything else. Didn't play that night. But it ended up going back. And we kept talking back and forth. And they just started dating. And then I just started coming along, you know, for the ride there. You mean to the, like, to the porn, to the sets of porn.

And then eventually you got, you did porn, right? Yeah. They don't do it. Do we do a stand-in twice. But what does that mean stand-in? Like, are you like in the background as an extra? Or you're like, you're, like, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, dick is in there and you're like fucking someone.

Like, what's a stand-in on a porn set? So, they're not really stand-ins on porn set. So what happens is a lot of times you end up having people who just don't show up. And in that kind of industry too, they're already paying for the

set fees. They're already paying for the lighting guy to be there. They're already paying Buku bucks for everybody to come together at one point. Well, fortunately, for the most part, sometimes you have people that just no call, no show. don't show up you know um this in particular happened to a male and a Bacocchi shoot which was perfect because now it's not really focusing so much on the men's face all you need is the

dick and the load that's all you need and your shoot's done so instead of losing out on a bunch of money uh i just went ahead and hey okay cool we're going to do this and did they because you were there because she was your girlfriend and you were on set with her yeah i have already like um she uses the same people kind of again and again and again and again. Mostly you don't have the same people, same production companies and stuff like that. Some people bounce around. But fortunately enough, I knew a couple of people there and they're like, yeah, let's go ahead. Pop right through. And now was it easy for you to get turned on? Were you always at that, like, on that set getting like turned on because you're watching like your girl have sex and like you're into

it? Or does it become one of those things where like when you're actually there, it's like no big deal? Like it's like nothing's happening. Yeah, it is no big deal. It was like a new day at the office. I mean, if you've never been to an event, like throwing out a couple of names, like the Art Cinema in Hartford, where you have an open amount of people all around you doing whatever. At first, when you introduce yourself into that kind of thing, it is going to, like, jog your hockey, and you are going to be a little bit kind of intimidated at first. But once you expose yourself to that so much, it's pretty much an old day at the office.

right so you were just going there because you were her boyfriend and you were like she's like come with me maybe and you didn't have a job or something yeah I had just moved so I didn't really have anything to do for a bunch of job app I was like all right and now it didn't bother you at all right like so I'm assuming when you're dating her you guys are like fucking a lot of different people like together like you guys are swingers together you and this uh glory fox woman, right? Mm-hmm. And what does that entail?

Are you by or are you just like with women and like what about her? Just women. Usually in relationships with me, I really don't care for it at all. Care for what, men? And that just care about men having sex with her or her having sex with women. Oh, right. It's not your thing. Cuckolding is not your thing.

Yeah, when you, it's not my thing, but I'm more for her happiness than this. sense of the Lord. So whatever makes they're happy is great. Like all couples, you have your ground rules. Like some couples are funny with kissing.

Some couples are funny with hugging. You all have your couple I've had different people. Yeah, uh-huh, totally. You have a very, like, some of them like, some of them have weird quirks.

Yeah, totally. That's what, that's just the things that's like holding it together. Yeah, because you also said, and I'm like jumping around, but I'm going to make sure I try to stay focused. here because you have a lot to say.

Like that you also had a lot of polyamorous relationships and like what you just said sort of touch upon that, right? So you've probably been in all kinds of situations with different ground rules because with each person, right? Like comes each person's different sort of things that they could deal with or they could handle. Let's stick with Glory Fox because that's sort of the first person you met once. You met her early on, right? Once you started when you made the switch from being very like vanilla to like vary the other end of the spectrum?

Yeah, 21. like 21-20. Right. And now was she somebody that you had Googled? Like was it like, oh my God, like I'm fucking somebody

that I used to like jerk off to. Like, had you had known her from porn or no? This was like before the internet. Never seen her. Right. Never seen her on the internet. Never seen a porn.

When she had mentioned, like I said, the next day, oh, were you okay with my modeling? I could be any other guy saying I did a check. Obviously I didn't check

because I'm a dude and that stuff just splits mine. And I just played around with it. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Totally. That's cool. Right, but you had a Googled.

How old are you now, by the way, just so I could get a timeline. How old are you now? 30. Oh, so this is only 10 years ago. Okay, cool. Yeah, around 10 years ago. And the next line of text was, oh, so you don't mind I do porn. And then I Googled it because I was like, oh, wait, hold on a second.

I really didn't look. You busted me. You got me. Right. And then what happened when you saw it? Yeah. When I've seen it, too, it was definitely interesting. I can tell you that.

At first, the typical guy response, oh, yeah, I got a poor star, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. But the other side was like, oh, man. Because I don't know if you've ever Googled it, and if not, I give you a spoiler alert. It's usually more than one person. Oh, that's her thing? She likes to fuck a lot of guys like gangbangs.

I think, too. I've seen her a couple. She does a couple of them where it's just one-on-one. But for the most part, her later career, it's been more so two at a time. So were you like, oh, fuck, like, I'm never going to be alone with this bitch. Like, I'm going to have to, like, you know, cross swords with someone to guy constantly because she obviously likes to fuck two guys at once.

And was that true? No. That's what I learned because normal people would look at porn scars and be like, that person's probably a nympho. She loves to have sex all the time. And that's when I learned about that line between people that are in the adult. industry in their professional life versus their regular life. And what is the difference?

Yeah. Yeah. Her, she just has a switch by daytime. She's just a normal girl working, going out, showing out with friends, doing this, that, and the other, and then just like a switch. She wasn't into really much of finish-wise, I want to say. but for the most part yeah

she never really asked for two guys in the same room right but you did meet her though at a swingers party so it wasn't like she was totally like vanilla outside of it right because what was she doing at the swingers party right

I mean she was pretty open-minded sexually exactly and most people are I attend those events and very fairly that you get the newbies unless you're being brought with somebody and you're kind of getting vetted into it, which is for the most part, what happens at the Twitter club.

So now when you were dating her, did you guys like fuck other people a lot? Because you just sort of implied that like, oh, she wasn't like this crazy sexual person, maybe when you were dating her, but like, was she or no? No. We didn't really get that one. We lasted for about eight months. Well, that's enough time to like either, like, you know, have a lot of crazy experience. or not fuck that much at all.

Like if she didn't fuck her law in eight months, then, you know, something's going on there. Exactly. That was, that's what happened? You didn't? We did.

We never really had the experience with the third person. Oh, okay, but you were fucking her regularly though, right? Oh, yeah. Very regularly. And you had good sex with her. I mean, did you guys go,

did you continue to go to swingers parties because that's where you met and that's what you were both obviously into? Or did it become like a real relationship where you guys like stayed home and ate popcorn and then, you know, had sex and went to sleep. And then it ended up coming that one because in the beginning, when I met her, she was over here from Bakersfield, visiting. And that's when she hit the swimmer's up.

Usually when you get into the fetish lifestyle, stuff like that, you end up getting like an ear to the ground. You can go to another state and I talk to a couple of people or go, you know, crawl around on the websites and you'll be able to find these claws. and she ended up over in Rhode Island at one of those other ones and she was on vacation so when she moved back we still maintain communications but it took a little while before we did a couple of visits back and forth

and then eventually moved out there so the first couple of the months of relationship there was kind of sporadic visits here and there here and there here and now right now let me ask you this was that your first bigger woman like your first BBW person or was that all you had fucked in your life

because you were like before that you were living in the south where you said all the women are huge. They kind of are. I did visit Southern State once and I, because I'm from New York City, so it's like everyone is so thin, most of the people that I'm like, when I was there,

I just couldn't believe how everybody was like just way bigger. And I mean, to me, I'm not saying anything's right or wrong or what are more attractive. You know, I mean, I think all different shapes are beautiful. But like it definitely is.

There are way bigger people there, right? Yeah. So the funny thing about, Like, when you get high schools, and you know how, like, the hierarchy of high schools are all set up. Well, down south is still the same way, but the skinny girls get cheerlier, and then the larger, larger women, they go to color guard, which is the flag twirling. So in high school, that used to be, mostly my girlfriend came from color guards. They were the color guards? They were to know each other.

Yeah, they're color guards. So by the time I hit seeing a year, it's like four or five color guard girls on the team with a new freshman, be like, yo, stay away from Wayne. She just like she took you big. Like, come on. You've got to kill me. Can you guys graduate already? You're like cramping myself. Oh my God, hilarious.

So you were always into it. I mean, that's not even like a fetish thing. It's really what you prefer because it's like what you always have been with. Thick Live Save Lives. Thick Live Save Lives. Wait, what did you just say? Six, five. Yeah, Thick Lives Save Lives.

Thick Lives Save Lives. I can't hear you. Oh, my God. hilarious. you could make a bumper sticker out of it. So how you lost eight months with her, right? Why do you guys break up? She's an awesome, awesome, awesome girl.

But she is very, very hard to date. She's awesome. I'm just trying to speak volume. Was she a little nuts? Was she a little bit like nuts? Maybe just a little, I don't know, maybe a little tad. Right. Right. So when you got close to her emotionally, like her sort of shit was like probably triggered and you really saw how maybe damage she was. Yeah, yeah. Some people come with a lot of baggage.

Yeah, totally. Some more so than others. Sometimes you have baggage is really heavy. Yeah, and I think a lot of times. And I don't believe that anything is 100% right. It's not like you can't say 100% of people in porn or damaged people, right? Because there's no way you're like there's probably some people that are totally over. okay and that's what they're doing for their reason. But I would say probably a lot of people, right, that, and women especially, you know, maybe that get into that business do are damaged on some level. And that's why they're sort of maybe acting out sexually. And then, you know, they figure they turn it into a sort of career and get paid for it. Right. So I guess that's the scary thing about, you know, becoming close to one, you know,

instead of just, you know, maybe having sex. Oh, yeah. mostly the self-title crazies ones that come in all tapped out are only in there for like maybe one or two right but she does it but she's been doing it for years and she's very successful like you said she's that that queen like she's one of the biggest ones in that world right yeah in that little subgenre area yeah okay so now you did you were stand in yourself like quote unquote stand in like you just did a bucaki scene like you said you just did porn a couple times when you were with her, right?

Was that the extent of it or did you do porn after her as well? We never got the facial shot. When porn shoots like, you have to get kind of, I think it's called S.S.D. 2217. I don't remember the statue. But you've got to go through the rigorous paperwork

of it, especially if you're, if it's like a scene scene with a face, we need driver's license, face picture, you know, you check, all that. little doodads. And then, but, you know, I wanted to do it. I really did and just make a career out of it. But that Q-tip hurt.

What do you mean that Q-Tip hurt? You don't know about the Q-Tip? No. How am I supposed to know about the Q-Tip? What the fuck is the really? You ladies going for your Patsmear and stuff and you guys do your little do-dads. Uh-huh. We get a Q-Tip shoved in our dig.

Oh, you mean in the tip? You mean to check for STDs? Yep, they're doing. STD panel. They show a Q-tip into your dick and then they pull it out. I don't know why. I don't have a dick, but I really think that that would, does that like hurt? Oh, does it hurt going in? Coming out, though, it's a different kind of pain. Let me tell you, I have a whole sleeve of tattoos up my arm and I will take another tattoo before I take a STD panel. Before you take a Q-tip. I will tattoo right on my bowhole. I don't care that. Oh, my God. Well, that's so interesting because, you know, I had like a guy.

on that was like into S&M. I taped him. I haven't aired him yet. But he said something about he like, you know, he let one girl like stick her nail in the tip. And I didn't, I was like, who cares? Oh, yeah. But I guess there's a lot of pain involved in that.

Yeah. Pencils. I've seen pencils and dicks. I've seen like rods in them. I've seen, yeah, some. But you've been into, so how many STD? So you were just in two scenes? Like you did the book?

cocky thing, right? Did you ever do anything else in porn? We did, I don't even know if you even got published. I did a stitch here. She was I'm trying to remember which one it was. And we did a scene, but getting into that.

So the woman comes on set. She shows up to a scene. Now imagine that. You set up for your equipment. You got everything there. You set up. The woman shows up. The scene's getting ready. You're shooting the scene, right? And a guy comes over and says, Hey, listen, I don't know how to say this, but there's something in there. Something in where?

Exactly. So, we're like, oh, where is it? In her pussy, I feel it. Something's in there. So, direct in the guy, go back over there to go check on this girl and to see what's going on. And she says she's on her period. Oh, so there's a tailpon inside her. Oh, so they ask her what is inside there.

Now, I don't really know, like I fisted somebody before, so I know the vagina is a stretchable object. But you know those big sponge that uses like wash cars with? Yeah, uh-huh, yeah. She had squished it down to ball size, shoved it in her vagina. It was going to do the scene even though she was on her period with a sponge, the size of two-fifths. Wait, was this, the person you're talking about right now, is this the girl, Glory Fox that you're doing this scene with or somebody totally different? somebody totally different it was a one-time shotter that never returned okay but in this situation did you sign up did you say hey like i'm gonna try to do porn this is what i do and you just like contacted somebody like how did you wind up like in a scene ready to fuck some girl like how did that happen uh that one was got to the point where i was gonna go ahead and talk to um the director of the time to go ahead and make the procedure for it but that right there that situation right there scared me completely out of it right okay because you decided hey this is what i want to do and i'm going to make it

you know my job now right that was after you had been to all those sets with that girl and then after that girl had that big sponge in her vagina you're like no fucking way i'm never doing any yeah she came to the set too and she was out of it like she was on something else and unfortunately that's what you run into and i know i have a friend who does production um and sometimes he gets hired by this one guy who does porn stuff and this is same thing like you said a lot of times people don't show up there's a lot of flakiness involved um and the other thing that he said is that you know a lot of times the girls are really high on something yeah and they come really really not unsafe for everybody in the room not just her but

everybody else yeah so you got out of that scene right but you were in the whole bondage scene as well right i mean you just mentioned that you like had fisted somebody and stuff is that where that whole thing came in because you did mention in your email as well that you were into the BDSM lifestyle, too. Yeah, this is what it's evolved to now from, I want to say, 26 to now. There's more into the BDSM aspect of everything. That I didn't even know existed. When did you, how did you tap into that?

Like, I mean, I know how you got it to being a swinger. Uh-huh. Yeah, I knew it was around because usually when you get swinger parties, too, you will end up getting doms and subs in there, too. And at first, I want to say, about like 20, 21. I was not touching that stuff with a 10-foot pole. I didn't know. I understand why people liked it.

I didn't. Until you kind of have to like put yourself in their shoes. Well, how did you wind up in somebody else? How did you wind up in that world? Like what was your, like, how did that that guy happen? That was a girlfriend. I got with a girlfriend that was into it. And she introduced me back back in the day to Fed Life.

Did you ding, name drop. I love that site. Yeah, I've had a guy on talk about Fat Life. And Fat Life is spelled because people can't really understand. because I know the first time I'm like what set life what it's like fat life fete right yeah because everybody's like what are you talking about fat life I'm yeah fat life set life I always had to make and repeat it like a thousand times do you know what it stands for a fetish like right it's short for fetish fat life exactly okay cool so she was into it and how hardcore did you guys go

we went up to the spanking flogging nine tails cropping what the fuck is nine tails cropping What the fuck is nine tails? A little nine tails Using the nine tails I don't know nine tails A flogger All right so it's just pretty much Your standard flogger

With leather straps And they call it a nine tails And it's more of like a sting Rather than anything else Because when you whip it around The leather flaps Catch like this whiplash And it ends up kind of

Like a light raking But more so more for a sting Well let me ask you this So you're dating this girl right and at some point, I mean, do you meet her in that whole world, right? So I'm assuming after you got into that world, most of your girlfriends were found at swingers parties and stuff, and that's why you had polyamorous relationships, right? Like, you started to live in that world, right?

Oh, yeah. And that's where you dated. Polyamorous relationships and then what mono for about maybe two relationships was like, yeah, now that you went there and you go back, you don't really, don't really go back. Yeah, it's. not natural anymore. Like I tried afterwards. I want to go back to the bill, man. Maybe this is not what I

what I'm all about. And it just didn't work. But let me ask you this with that girl, right? So you meet her like at a swingers party or someplace, right? So you know she's into like kinky shit, right? And you guys are having good sex. But like at what point does she tell you? She's either, who's the dom and who's the submissive in the situation? Yeah, that was date number two. We actually had a dunk of donuts

to have this conversation for like 12 people. Uh-huh. And it's like monotone, low tone and like, I love that. You don't know how many times I've said in my podcast like, you don't, because I've had people meeting up with people to discuss really insane things, like out in public. And I'm like, you know, nobody in that restaurant had any idea. You know what I mean? You got to love them.

Cohnames. Cod names. Yeah, those people in the corner, what they're, you'd never know. And this is what real people are doing. That's like the whole point of my podcast, right? So, you know, in Dunkin' Donuts, you guys are there. and what is she saying to you? She's asking now that I'm, that we're dating in my are dominant.

I'm like, well, usually that kind of thing isn't like passing a note across the table in high school. Be like, we be my girlfriend? You know? That kind of stuff is more like an in-depth, more conversation. I had like somewhat soft knew about it, but after that I told her, I was like, listen, give me like 24 hours. I'd hate me some research. And went and did my research and I came back.

was like, yeah, well, I'll go ahead and do it for you. Is this what makes your toes growl? Right. Now, let me ask you this. When you did your research, like, was it a turn-on? And you're like, oh, like, actually, now I actually could see why this would be hot. Like, I can't wait to, like, spank the shit out of this girl. Or was it still something like at that point that you didn't understand, but you were doing it just because she had asked you?

It was a turn-over-off me more so in a psychological aspect of it. That whole headspace is what intrigues the shit out of me. Isn't that what it's all about, though, especially that, because the S&M world, I had a guy on the S&M and I, oh, I've had a lot of BDSM people on, right? The bondage people, right? But just the straight up status and masquins is a whole different story, right? And I feel like the difference, I think he tried to explain this to me, there's a lot more mind control and stuff that like you're talking about in the BDSM world, right? Like there's a lot of that shit that goes down and that's a big part of the turn on as well, besides the actual physical stuff, right? Yeah, you get into headspace, then you get into all that, and then like the coming down part after it and the giggles and all that stuff.

He was turning on. Huge turn on. So what did you guys do to each other? Yeah. So, like, how far did she like you to go? You said flogging and stuff. So, like, do you go to her house, like, on the third date and she, like, opened a door and she just, like, had all this shit? Like, I mean, where was the floggers and all that stuff?

Someone had to have them, right? I had to buy them from track of supply company and online. Oh, she was, she made you go buy everything? Yeah, I was going to buy everything, too. And it's kind of funny because I got an armful tattoos and a big, bright red mohawk on my head, side of my head shoes. I'm walking into the tractor supply. Right.

Totally not fitting in at this point because it's full of farm equipment and seeds. And I'm going over to the horse cat aisle to get me a crop. Oh, my God. That's so hilarious. And so that's really where people buy their stuff. Well, yeah, you can hit up like, normal everyday vanilla places. I track this supply company

because they, like I said, they have horse products, so you can find your crops, your ropes there. Usually if you want something a little bit more custom, you just find somebody who makes it or a store online and does it. If you can find somebody who actually crafts these things,

it's way better. So the first time you went and got that and like, what was your first Dom sub experience and how great was it? That was the final night. That was, it was very interesting. It took a little bit to get into it, I want to say, but by the first, like, three or four,

listening to her moans and stuff, watching her body language is a normal everyday stuff. I figured out she loved this stuff, and I'm, like I said, my golden rule is whatever makes your toes grow. I'm going to do it. That's exactly what she liked. So I dove right into it. I seek advice anywhere I could because that's just what you do with stuff that you're not really familiar with, especially BDSM and stuff. If you're just this close-minded, dominant,

that's just not going to take advice from anybody, and you're the world's best. You're going to be the world's worst dumb ever. Because you're going to put people in unsafe situations. You're not going to be familiar with something. You're going to either use or do something that's hurting somebody. Right. That's why I'm hating 50 shades of gray.

Yeah, I remember when I had my guy on, I had somebody on that talked about that. And, you know, it was because of that. It was like, I've been doing my podcast for a couple of years. It was when that movie was coming out and everyone was talking about it. I'm just like, why don't you talk about like the real shit that goes down? Because I would imagine I never read the book that, you know, it's probably very different than what was in that book because so many mainstream people loved it that I think if they like the real deal, probably a lot of people would. Yeah, probably a lot of it. And what I was really sort of interested in, well, not really interested in because it was like kind of horrifying to me, but was surprised by it was the fact that like in that world there's a lot of like right.

writing and essays and like a lot of homework that was involved and I was like oh fuck that like I could never like there's a lot of like communication right because that whole submissive thing from the dumb like you want that like it's there's a lot of work that goes into it like I said besides the actual sex that's going down exactly there's a lot of press work needs to be done like even before that yeah you're talking that like you have to like get them like whip to you in mental ways right and there's like they have to write you guys both need to be on the same wavelength because doing stuff like that is really, really intimate. It's way more intimate than I'll go out in a limb to say vanilla couples is way more,

there's way more intimacy and trust. It goes in with that. Right. That's what I was going to say. That you guys both need to be on the same page. So any stressing or anything that was in the middle of the day. Breaking up. Any what? Any stress or anything that was in the middle of the day or anything that was bothering you.

You need to take a back seat and both you guys need to be stressful. just level playing field. Now was she a bigger girl too? BBW? Actually, she was my first skinny girl. Oh, interesting. I'm glad I asked. Oh, yeah.

She usually, it's funny because everybody at work knows that I have like this 170 minimum rule. What is it 170? 170. You got to have a thick thigh. If you don't have a thick thigh, I'm a really, I'm a leg guy.

So I love legs. Uh-huh. And skinny little thighs and just go straight down. It's just, I don't know, man. It's not my thing. Right. It doesn't do anything for you. But this girl, did she have thick thighs and was skinny everywhere else?

Yeah, big. The skinny girl, man. I applauded evolution at that point. I was like, yeah, both of both worlds. Right. So it was just as pleasurable for you because she did. She was big in the places that you needed her to be. Yeah.

And then she was little at the same time. So it was kind of like a carry-on doll because I'm like six-three and she was like five-four. Did you say a carry-on doll? Yeah, it's pretty much like a carry-out dog We're like 5-4, anybody that's above six-foot, you're pretty much an accessory. Right, right. You're going to pick you up and, like, walk around with you.

Now, is she the one that you were started, like, that you were fissing, or did that come into play and, like, just at the swingers parties? That one came a little later when somebody asked me to do it. And that was actually at a swingers club, too. I got to ask, um, while I was outside, talking a cigarette, uh, that a girl was interested in it.

And I turned around, I was like, oh, well, if you're interested in it, you know, I'll do it for you. That takes a lot of technique. I've seen videos and, like, instructional videos to it, just kind of, like, brushed up on it just in case the situation arose. So I, I, like, knew how to do it safely. So, yeah, we ended up doing it right there. And, yeah. In front of everybody. Yeah, everybody was loving it.

You loved it, she loved it, everyone loved it. Yeah, everybody was watching, loved it. everybody else. She attracted about like 10 people for that little crowd. Kind of went around me there. Right. Now, did anyone else fist her to or was it just you? Oh, it's just me. Mm-hmm. And now, did you wind up seeing

her afterwards or no? Like, when you do stuff like that with somebody at the Sprigers Club, do you like to exchange numbers? I think we never even exchanged numbers. We talk on Fat Life, but that's about it. I'm really casual when it comes to sexual thing. Like, it's immunity

has, like, struck me where I'm like, hey you might fix me real quick okay cool and then we'll just go play Scrabble afterwards yeah you have that vibe just me talking to you I totally get that it's just your it's just your way right you're like you want to help you out yeah yeah yeah yeah how long did the

relationship last with the BDSM girl like the submissive like how I'm with her yeah that one was two two years now let me ask you this when you lose your sub right and now you're so into this dominant thing right and I'm assuming like once you get wired that like that kind of

shit turns you on. Is it hard to like sort of be with somebody without that aspect involved? Like did you go looking then after that for another girl that was submissive? Yeah, it definitely, it definitely bums you out. It does. Especially going to

that kind of field and then not having one and then being put back in a little vanilla life there. Definitely suck. I wouldn't say like it would be a deal killer, but it would definitely put a damper on and it wouldn't say that I went and tried to push a matter a little bit, but like, hey, come watch this porn I found.

It's got this stuff and I want you to watch it. Right. See what you're going to be. But you also had a lot of polyamorous relationship. So it's kind of like it wouldn't be a deal breaker for you because if for some reason the girl that you were dating wasn't into it, you could go off and find that every now and then with somebody else, right? Because you're not into monogamous relationships. Yeah, if that was the deal too, that's the, that's. exactly what it would be too. I would go look for somebody that would be kind of strictly

for that kind of role just so you get the best of both worlds there. Right. Now when did like so I'm assuming you just had polyamorous relationships without even realizing you were like polyamorous right before that even word came about because that's kind of like a newish thing I feel like now. But when you were just younger, was it just happening because you were with these people that were super open minded and so you were just having open relationships or was it something that was like very disgust this is polyamorous and like this is what I want? And so you're just having. I'm and you went looking for it? I was actually introduced polyamory from a girl that I was messing around with at the time.

She had just stopped, well, not stop, because I guess you can't really say you stop being bisexual or anything else. But she had went eight years of lesbian. And she was already still messing around with this girl. And we hooked up, not sexually, but started talking and stuff like that. She's like, you know, not normally like this, but I kind of want to have sex with you do. we started having sex. She's like, I kind of have a girlfriend.

Do you mind? I'm like, oh, no. And then the next one was, I kind of don't want you sleeping anybody else. So could we date? I'm like, well, you're dating somebody. Oh, well, it's Polly.

I was like, I don't know this, but hold on one second. Google with my friend. Oh, my God, hilarious. You're always doing the investigation after the fact. Yeah, and be like, one second.

That's how I ended up like going like a vast knowledge of all these terminologies is I get approached with somebody like, well, will you help me out with this? I'm a this. I'm looking for a primal.

Oh, hold on one second. Let me go Google. Right. Well, look at you. You said you had Googled fistic before, and you knew, like, all the right techniques and everything, just in case it ever came in handy. At least in that situation,

after smoking your cigarette, you didn't have to go Google and figure out what it was. You were prepared in that scenario. Exactly. They'd be like, hey, yeah. I got you on that one. You want me to help you out? Right.

So wait, so now, so this girl says, let's be polyamorous and you're like, okay, like you were okay with her having that girlfriend? Oh, yeah. She can go do whatever makes you happy. In that kind of scenario, the ground rules was it was just us three. We were never mixed unless it was her.

So her other girlfriend, I'd never had any sexual, anything with her or nothing whatsoever. Well, all just common denominator was that girl. So she was the one that got to be with her and with you, but both of you. You guys only got to be with her.

Exactly. Oh, wow. You guys were her bitches. Like that girl knew how she knew what she was doing. Pretty much. We were pretty much her on-call bitches. It's pretty much the title. Just so you know, you were not the Dom anymore.

No, I definitely took a back seat on that one. Totally. You guys were the submissives. And how long did you put up with that shit? So that one went a little bit ways until I got concerned over her partying. the other girl was a hardcore clubber partier. So she would spend three or four days out of a week going to raise and popping up on Molly and snorting a lot of Coke. And then the other girl that I was interested in would be laid up for fucking four or five days recovering from the Molly hits and stuff.

Oh my God. Was this one like 22? I mean, how old were you people at this time? This was like 23, 24, yeah. Right, right, right. That's my prime. So I like I needed it at least at least. maybe like five times a week.

And she was not producing those numbers, unfortunately. And if I'm being restricted and locked down, you know, you need to kind of pull your end of the deal. Yeah, totally. I mean, seriously. Yeah, that's like a, that's like not a good situation for you. So you got the hell out of there. Then the next relationship was Polly too?

The next one, yep, followed up with them. We're right another folly again. That one was from two girls. So this one was funny. It had two girls that were pretty much at each other's, roast flying to give me. What do you mean? And then I don't know what kind of like act of God or something came down and just like

inspired people and help cure cancer or some bullshit. But both of them came to an agreement that they were cool with a poly. Oh, interesting. So you had two girls that knew you, right? They both liked you. They both knew about each other that like they both knew about the competition, so to speak, right? Yep. And they both knew I was having sex with both of them.

What is this going down, like in a bar scene or something? Like, how does everybody know about everybody? Yeah, that was a bar scene. I was actually bar. I was a dormant. Oh, okay. So you're a dormant. These two girls that come to the place both like you.

They both know that each other likes you. And somehow they get together and figure out. And do they come to you and say, hey, we figured out a solution to this problem. Like, we're both going to date you? Exactly. Wow. You were like, wow. Wow.

And they're like, you know, we don't like the fighting. We don't like the stressing. and we don't like you being stressed out over it. So how about we just both date you? And you'll be with her on the weekend, and then you can be on me during the week. And so the other won't call when the other one's out with the other one, and this will all be unstressed for.

And I was like, don't do. Oh, my God, that was your lucky day. Like, how great was that for you? It was great. I got my Friday so I can play magic, too. So we were good. So we were all set. So then, but they, so they never were with each other or anything.

You were literally with one for the weekend, the other during the week, and then you got a break for both. Yeah, on Friday, I got a break from both so I can do my nerdy magic card set. Right. Okay. Okay. That's a whole other story. So you had, so how long did that, those two relationships last? Because, I mean, they were, they were not like the same relationship, right?

So one could end before the other one did. Like, did they both end at the same time or what happened with that? that one it ended because the other one was not being so much truthful with me and trust is a huge thing especially in a polyamorous relationship trust is god damn key it's the whole thing no i know i know i've talked to other people absolutely um so she was disappearing a random random times and then the other girl was picking up on it and being like you know she's not telling you where she's going la la la la la and so she had brought it up to my attention but that was what's happening. Well, Lord of behold, Britt had a side thing going on.

Another guy. Yeah, another guy. And not telling us. Okay, but I mean, can you blame her? I'm cool with it. And I told her at the beginning,

like, I'm totally cool with it. But here's the big fish look in the room. It's either one and two things we've got to happen. One, you have to,

like, show us that he's not an axed murder off Craigslist that's going to end up killing you because you have two people in this relationship that cares about you,

not just one. So we need to know, A, who are you hanging out with? Where are you going? Like, are you going to be back at this time? If you're not back at this time, could we worry? Stuff like that.

Wait a second. There was the other girl. Those two girls, though, were like, they had separate timetables. Like, they never, like, they cared about each other. Like, weren't they totally,

like, one was the week, one was the weekend? So, like, how did they ever intercept with it? You know what I mean? Like, they never overlapped with each other, right? So what do you mean you had someone else that cares about? They overlapped a couple of times,

a couple of times. What does that mean? Like they were wet to eat each other? Yeah, you're right. In a way that I'm looking at it now is, yeah. That other girl didn't care about her. The minute she found out that she was doing something slightly fucked up, she was putting, planting those seeds in your head so you'd get pissed off and she'd be the only one.

Are you out of your mind? You don't know girls. You don't know girls. I'm going to call her back now and being like, yo, out of conversation. And now I got evidence to dispute what you were saying earlier. Yeah, you know what you should do? You should high five her, okay? because she won that, okay?

And she should feel proud. I mean, come on, duh. Like, you didn't get that? She ended up, and here's where it got weird because this goddess she's coming to pick up, blah, blah, blah, blah. Ended up being one of my good friends.

You are kidding. Yeah, it ended up being a guy that I actually played in a band with that we jammed. Like, I actually went to his house to play guitar and he played drums. Did he know? Like, was it a big secret?

Like, they both knew what they were doing that they were playing you? Yeah, it was this big thing that nobody, me and the other girl didn't know about, but apparently everybody else did. Because after the fact came, they're like, y'all, dude, she's been doing that for a while. Oh my God, they were both bitches. Yeah, because otherwise, I would have been fine with it. We would just introduce him into it, and then he would be all fine and dandy. Yeah, that's kind of hilarious.

Well, you know what it was? They both were probably, like, drunk when they came up with the solution to this problem, okay? Or they both wanted to be with you. they both probably didn't really want it. The one girl sort of, you know, dealt with it by, you know, waiting for the perfect time to get you away from the other one. And the other one dealt with it by cheating behind your back in and that probably made her feel better, which I could get.

Like, people are human beings, you know what I mean? And this shit can go awry so easily because, you know, people's feelings are involved. And when they start really liking someone, I think sometimes situations that people go into thinking they could handle, you know, it becomes a different story once you really start. liking somebody, right? And shit gets very messy. Exactly. And like you said, people are humans. They're going to have emotions and stuff like that too. Yeah, as much as you don't want to. I don't blame her at all. Yeah. I don't blame her in Elisa bit for what she was doing. I would probably do the same thing too. Yeah, she was, yeah, she was dealing with it the way she could.

And for some reason, even though you said you would be cool and maybe like maybe she didn't believe you. Maybe she was just doing it to make herself feel better because when you're with the other girl, she felt really insecure. Do you know what I mean? So whatever. of the rainbow, they are still together to this day going six years strong. Oh, see, even more so. Like, it was just meant to be. So that guy and her, your friend, and that girl are still together to this day. Yeah, to this day.

We don't talk, but I like people on Facebook and they're doing good. They're doing great. And what about you? Like, what's going on with you to this day? So, like, how many other poly relationships do you have after that one? This day, I have one more. And it ended just kind of recently. about two or three weeks ago

the other girl ended up being wicky, crazy, possessive. So what was the deal? You had two girls again? How did that situation come about? That one came about. My current girlfriend at the time, it's been a friend of mine for like 10 years

that I've known forever. Never did anything else, you know, anything of the sort, but ended up messing around with the girlfriend's permission, of course. And she ended up with going, well, why don't we do it, Polly? Well, me and my girlfriend now are, I found another vet that knows terminology and knows how this fits run and everything else like that.

We went okay, but figured out if that's not for her, she, when it comes to polyamorous relationship, jealousy is like the big killer. Totally. If you're a jealous person in 0.1% jealous, polyamorous relationships is not for you. Right. You have to put yourself in a headspace of looking out for people's happiness and they're happy. And as long as they're happy, it's just that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Right. Or you're dating somebody, like, in a real polyarmist relationship, and you just know that they're happy. This is what makes them happy. This is what makes everybody happy. Wait, but I'm a little bit confused about how this one came about. You were dating someone and then your friend, like, came into the picture, or you started dating the girl that was your friend,

and then you decided to meet somebody else. Like, what was the setup again? The girl that I was, yeah, the girl I was dating, or I'm currently dating right now. Mm-hmm. I was already dating her, and this stuff. the girl came up. And who's the other girl? Was that your friend that you had been friends with for 10 years? Yeah, for like 10 years, yeah. Oh, okay. So you and the girl that you're dating obviously had an open relationship, right, because you started hooking up with your friend? Oh, yes. She's very, very, very

awesome, very outgoing and realizes that I'm just not, I'm not a one girl kind of guy, so to speak. So fortunately for me, she is bisexual. So we go hunting. Okay, cool. And now how old, your third, right. How old is she? She's 28. Right. Okay. And you know, I always ask my callers this, and I haven't asked you this since the beginning. I should have asked you in the beginning. What do you think you are? I mean, you've basically kind of explained yourself. You're over six feet tall. You have like a red mohawk. You have tat. I don't know if you still have that red mohawk, but you have tattoos all over. And, you know, what would you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten? One to ten. I'm probably going to go like an eight.

Oh, okay. That's high. You know, listen, I don't know why, but people always are like six or seven. I rarely get eights or tens or nines. I'm pretty decent looking at, I'd say. A little confident. Okay, cool. And what about your girl? You're 28-year-old. Oh, she's like at 12.

That's awesome. Okay, cool. So how long have you guys been dating? We've been dating for about a year now. I've been seeing each other for about two, two to three. Where did you meet her? I met her in a kick group. I was in a kick group and I was single and she was looking for somebody and I was looking for somebody.

But like when you say looking for somebody, like what were you guys looking for? Oh, we were looking to get it in. We were both single people and we were like, all right, this is not working. So we had planned. We, I ended up getting there to the house and it's a funny story because we still talk about it to other couples too when they see it in playground. on all these swinger clubs that our first meeting we never really seen each other's faces because she was bent over and I was just going to come in and do it and then pop out. And you lived out that scenario.

I mean, you guys planned that scenario and then you did that scenario. Yeah, we didn't even know each other's names at first, the first time having sex. Oh my God, I feel like that's like probably like a lot of got like people hear that and be like, oh, that's like kind of like a hot scenario. Yep, and now we've been strong, everything. Well, some people, you might ruin that scenario with that part of it, right, for some people. But I think, you know what I mean? Like, you sound like, listen, you sound like you're like a relationship guy.

As much as you're, like, pretty open and sexually and, like, you know, very experienced and you've done a lot of these things. You told me in the email you've been with like over 100 people, you're, you know, and so you fuck a lot of people. But you like to be in relationships, obviously. Yeah, she's my special stuff like, I love a girl to bed. Right. So even after you go in, which I think is really cool because I think there's so many people there and women, this is why, you know, because guys will be like, why do women, you know, they won't fuck me like the first like, like, why are they playing games and stuff? It's like because women know and it's just the truth and it's an unfortunate thing that a lot of times guys have this weird Madonna whore complex thing that goes down, right? Where they want the girl where they could do like exactly what you just described, you know? But they would never like bring that girl home to their parents. You know what I mean? Like they don't want to date that girl. Like the girl that's, like the girl that's, like the girl that's, they want to fucking the girl that they want to marry are two totally different people and they can't put that together for some reason right it's like a lot of guys things and women know that so they're like i think that's why women have to repress their sexuality a lot of times because they're

so afraid that a guy won't see you know we'll see them like as a horror something right yeah and as a as a guy too if you put enough work into your relationship you can you can get to the level that i'm on right now i mean it didn't happen overnight you have to make your your girl feel comfortable on her own skin, and even more so comfortable with being in with another woman. So you have to make your girl feel like she is just on the tippity top at all times. Like, she is the only one, and this is just a fun thing. And it's just what I like to say, it's a toy that you take off the shelf. We're going to play with it, and then we're going to put it back on the shelf.

Okay, so let's spend the next, like, 10 minutes to wrap up this call. Let's, like, spend the next 10 minutes where you could tell guys, like, how to do just that. Like, you said it took you a little bit of time and stuff. Like, what did you do and how did you prep your girl? and how did you get to the place that you are with this girl? Like, what would your advice be to other guys? Make your girl feel like the queen of the entire planet. You need to really put time and invest and really get to know her

and get on that level with her. And once again, like I said, I can't stress it enough. You make her feel like she is the only one. And that could be like a little bitty thing. Give her a phone call whenever you get a break. Even if it's five minutes, ten minutes. You need constant communication. And then you need to open up that actual, that door to it,

of being like, okay, you know, not necessarily they need to be bisexual. They could be straight and doing it, too, but it's just a lot of work to put into it. And you've got to be willing to do it. Most guys, they fail because they think that since I got with a girl that's bisexual, she's automatically going to have let me have sex in the same room with another girl. That's not necessarily the case at all. Right, right. She may enjoy it, but that doesn't mean that you're going to get free reign just because she's bisexual.

And I have tons of people I see, and they make that. mistake. You can open them up to that with communication. Did you open her up or was she that way already? I opened her up to it. She was already, she had had a couple of bisexual experiences and not any that she was really pursuing to. Like I said, she's right there on the tippity top of the iceberg there too. She was like, you know what? This is something that you like. You do everything I like. Let me do this for you. And then she did it and then she eventually became comfortable and realized she likes it, right? Because you said she's very by herself now.

So I'm assuming it's something that she's very into. Yeah. Right. And now she's into it now. Yeah. She's got to put that work in. Yeah, but you know what I think the unfortunate difference isn't, but I mean, like, people can fake it, right?

Because some people are good actors. But I think like the things that you say that you do, you do because maybe you really feel that way. Like you're not really, you don't know what I mean? Like you could tell someone to do all those things that you do. But if it's not really just. genuine. You know, a lot of guys just don't really sort of think that their girl is like the greatest thing in the world. They don't treat them that way because they just don't buy into it.

You know, it's just like you have to really feel the way. There are many guys that do have that vibe. And that is ultimately, I'm a woman, right? So I'll tell you, yes, that is a big thing that women want, right? They really do. And it would make that, you know, but I think a certain kind of guy makes a woman feel that way and it's just a kind of guy that likes relationships that likes women like look you're been with a lot of open you were you were like open-minded enough to date a porn store like a lot of guys would judge a woman like that so you obviously like not only like to be in relationship I think you really love women and you have a very sort of um like you know a lot of men kind of secretly hate women I think maybe they've had problems with their moms or something

I don't know what I'm saying or they just don't see them as equal and they don't respect them and there's a lot of like double standards that go involved but like you don't have that kind of stuff, you know, so, you know, it's hard to sort of... What? Like a woman's still securing. It'll go a long way. Yeah, that's what I tell guys out all the time, especially like my guy friends and stuff and like honesty and trust, you know, and I think that a lot of times women aren't sort of

doing the things that guys wish that they would because they don't give them those things. You know what I mean? But I just think, unfortunately, if you don't feel it naturally and you don't sort of respect women or think of them as equals or, you know, you know. know and you're not sort of and you're not judgmental about what they do sexually you know it's it's hard to you know pull that off because it's not genuine you know I think you're genuine and that's why you get it or just your happiness if you guys are a team as a relationship everybody's happiness is that yeah uh-huh yeah I made a joke about this fact that I had a guy on whose girlfriend he got her

to the point where she really was able to say like okay we're going to be with another person and the guy was like, you know, her one thing is I can't fuck another girl in the ass. And he was like, that's the first thing I'm going to do. Because he just wanted to do it because he wasn't allowed. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, you're so dumb. And for the girl, you should be like, all right, cool. I don't have to take it.

Let me find this other girl to take it. Here you go. I mean, come on. But it's just like this is how a lot of guys think. You know what I mean? They're just dumb. I don't know what that even says about them. But so it's like, I think you could give that advice.

Yeah. your your stereotypical dude is mostly after themselves unfortunately i have a lot of like the bro type friends yeah i don't have many of them i do have them they're very alpha male in a but if you if you're on one side expecting another girl you can't get mad at your significant other where it goes oh well could i get another guy in here right right you can't there's no you got to have enough security to know that even if there is another guy in the room you're still her fucking number one and her rock. So unless you get that mentality, you're not going to be able to handle it.

Right. And but you got, you said, like you've been dating her a year and it's not like this stuff came up right away, right? Like this comes up over time and probably through a lot of communicating with each other and open conversations, right? Exactly. Yes, exactly. And trade porn with your girlfriend. That's, that's, that's, that's your little bit about so good. What was that? Trade porn with your girlfriend. Don't, don't feel ashamed to trade porn with your girlfriend. And let her know what you're into you want. No matter what you're into, send it to your girlfriend. It's strengthening the relationship.

I know that's a tricky one too, though. I have to say because I have a lot of guys calling into my podcast. Like my podcast is a lot about people calling in about their secret lies because and the sad thing is is they have to be secret because, you know, a lot of times maybe their partner would be like, what the fuck? Like, I'm so not into that. And then they'd be like, you know, maybe freaked out that they can. And I just think most people's fear is if they're into something really sort of like,

that's like a fetish that maybe not a lot of people are into that. if they told their partner that their partner would get really freaked out and maybe leave them. And I think that that's true, actually. I think some people, because they don't understand it. Yeah, unfortunately. But I think the younger generation is very different. I think they're much more open-minded. Yeah, I'm going to say.

And the other thing is, too, I mean, if you're already in a relationship, chances are you're already taking dumps in front of each other. And if you could take a dump in front of each other, but you can't share porn, there's something wrong. Yeah, but listen, porn and like the fact that you like to wear your wife's panties. and smell them is like another thing. Do you understand? Like there's a big, there's like people are into a lot of crazy shit. Like I've had it.

Like when look at the titles of my show. Like I've learned a lot from doing my show and talking to people. We almost lost a butt plug on a sexual excursion. So that's why I think I feel like maybe I'm just like really, really, really close with my girlfriend. Yeah. Well, listen, you just had a, you just ended a relationship with another girl. But like you guys were, how long did that one last with the, with the friend involved, the crazy friend?

Oh, crazy friends. Ad one didn't last too long until we are both like, hey, we have a pretty solid thing going on right here. We really don't need the sex trauma. Right. Because you tried to make it like an emotional relationship, right? Because that's the poly thing, right? It's not like just sex. This is like you guys actually have a real

relationship with the other person. Exactly. Yeah. And then the other one's got two attached too quick and rub the other one the wrong way and unfortunately whatever Snowflake says goes. Yeah, I don't think I could ever do it. Not because I'm too jealous, but it's like, I just don't think I have enough love to give.

I mean, God, like, it's enough to give love one person, let alone two. Exactly. Maybe I'm lazy. I don't know. I would never be interested in that. Everybody is wired differently. So, yeah. Unfortunately, I'm a very sociable, very outgoing guy.

And you know, and you've been in love, like I would assume you could say that you've been in love with two women at the same time. Yep. Yeah. And it just worked out. It just does. Yeah. I think you could like two people at the same. I've had a lot of, like, guys in my life where I wasn't really dating anybody but cared

about two separate people at the same time. You know what I mean? So maybe that's not so far off, you know? Plus, these poly ones, it just work. I'm not just trying to bash on monomerous relationships, but I would think, I mean, you can go ahead and quote me on this, that the world would be a lot more of a, a non-jalous planet. If in relationships,

you would just allow it to go have a stomach. I know, totally. Listen, I say that. I mean, we all dig off of attraction and its pheromones involved and just walking down somebody and saying, hey, boom,

this is it. It's the last person you have sex with the end of life. It's just going to cause problems because we're humans. Yeah. And then unfortunately what happens is when somebody else goes in strays, people like end relationships with people that they really care about. And it's really tragic and sad. But the sad thing is, is it has to start, like, from, like, day one.

Like, I was always, like, I wish I was born, you know, 500 years from now when this shit is all normal. And I was never fed, like, retarded scenarios to believe in since I'm a little girl, right? Because then you can't, even though you could in your mind know that it, it shouldn't be that way. And you should be more open-minded. It's hard to really do it because society has told you something completely different since day one. so things have to really change. Yeah, and so if women, and I think it's the worst thing,

this whole situation is the worst for women. It pits women against each other. It makes them fucking crazy. I think it makes them the weaker sex. Flots and whores and stuff like that. Yeah, it's all terrible for women. People are turning around being like, oh, well, if you're having sex and multiple men,

you're on my place. Exactly. No, how about I'm exploring my sexuality because whoever, God, or whatever, gave me this thing right here. And it feels good when something's out of it. Totally. But also the woman that's with a guy and then she's got to worry that her friend wants to fuck him

and like all this stuff and everything. And then she's with a man and then he's like screwing somebody else. And she's devastated because she's home with the babies. Like if we all just knew that this happened and it wasn't a big deal because we didn't, we were told that from a very young age, it would be fine with it. Yeah, I knew that sex with sex. That's it. Right.

When you're having casual sex, sex, sex with sex, it's literally, I mean, it's not in the same ballpark. I'm just going to say it like it. having coffee with somebody else and I'd be like oh it's been nice talk you later right but it's hard and I talked to a gay guy the other day about this because you know gay men they're you know they're dating other men and men understand that sometimes the sex doesn't mean anything but women are wired differently so for them it's hard to understand that so you know we could talk till we're blue in the face but these are the problems that have and this is why you know I still get these really great people calling and telling me these really great stories because we're not that open minded yet and there's still a lot

of crazy things that people are doing behind people's backs that no one knows about and people love hearing about it. So your stories are great. You could do it and just have communication. Yeah. Well, you're ahead of the rest and you know, you're a little bit more evolved when it comes down to that and it sounds like, you know, you're happy, well, just a guy. So, you know, thanks so much for calling in and explaining everything because we talked about a lot. I think we covered everything, right? That was in that email. That was about 25% yeah. Exactly. Well, listen, go check on my podcast. I always have people on as repeat callers because when, you know, there's other stories that you have to tell that you want to call in. You know, I always left out people back on. If that's 25%, you know, we could do another podcast whenever you want. Oh, not a problem at all. All right, cool. All right. Thanks so much for calling in. I'll let you know when this airs. It'll be very soon.

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