Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 174 - Paul is Into Pantyhose

Episode Date: April 17, 2017

Paul calls in to confess that he loves wearing pantyhose and his wife knows about it. When does he wear them? What does he do when he wears them? Is she really ok with the fact that he wear them? Tune on to find out plus hear a whole lot more about a really common fetish that a lot of guys keep on the down low. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Anyway, back to business. What else do I need to talk about on this damn intro? Nothing else. I'm just going to get right to who I have on my show today. I have on a guy named Paul. Paul is very into panty hose. Not really so into them like, because I've had other panty hose guys on.

And I would have to say if there's like a spectrum of like pantyhose wear fetish, you know, like one to a hundred, he'd be more like on the lower end of things. He was not like, you know, I had a guy who was like into panty hose and he like put him over his head and then go out and jerk off and like public places in front of people. He was as far away from that guy as you can get, which to me is so interesting because he was like so close to quote unquote what most people would say is normal. Yet he liked to wear pantyhos, right?

And the guys aren't supposed to wear pantyos. he was into it. And he explains a different kind of angle of like why he was into it besides the whole sex stuff. And it was interesting to me because I never really thought that, you know, if it's a fetish and there's pantyos, that there'd be a reason to wear it besides a sexual thing. But he explains in his case, it's different from, you know, what I expected. So any of this makes sense. I'm taping this intro very late at night and I'm exhausted. So anyway, you'll just hear all about it on the podcast. Like I say this to him and I'm going to say this to you again,

but you'll hear me say it to him. There are so many guys that are into pantyhoes. And you know how I know? Because of the downloads on my pantyhoes episodes and because when I go into Craigslist looking for people to call into my show, I would say out of all of the casual encounter fetish, you know, postings that they have across the U.S. I would say 72% are about guys who are into wearing pantyhouse, okay, that many. So I think there's a lot of guys that like to wear pantyhose.

That's what I think. So I think that you'll find this episode interesting. if you're a guy that wants to wear a panty hose or wears them and maybe you think that you're like quote unquote weird or something's wrong with you and you don't understand your fetish um when you hear this guy you'll realize you're not alone and uh you'll realize that this is like kind of a common thing I think it's common because I see so many people out there anyway I got to start babbling it's like I'm fucking drunk because I'm just like going on and on it I don't think I'm making much sense, but I'm not going to re-record this one today because I just don't feel like it. So anyway, I'll be right back on with Paul.

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How are you? Hey, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for writing in. You wrote into me and you were like, hey, like I've listened to your, like, you're a panty hose guy, right? And I love that you picked Paul because Paul, the pantyhose guy, you know, is sort of like it really goes, like there has the ring to it, right?

Which I always like for a title. But you're into pantyhose, right? And you listen to my two other pantyhose guys, right? Is that how you found my podcast? Like, you were Googling for stuff like that? Yeah, surprisingly. I was just very kind of bored one day at a poker table. Another P for alliteration here.

What do you mean? You're like gambling and you're in a casino and you're bored? You're bored? You're Googling? I was just kind of listening to a podcast. This is just one of the things that I guess interested me about the whole subject in general. I'm just kind of seeing what content is out. there.

Either there's other people like me out there or people in my situation or even like my wife's situation where she has to deal with me, things like that. And I was listening to it and I was just like, oh, this is very interesting. And it's kind of a, I guess, a safe spot for us to just kind of chat about it. Yeah. Let me tell you something, Paul. When I go on Craigslist, because I post ads, like I do a lot of different things to find my, you know, people who call into my show.

But like when I go looking on Craigslist and for people to have on my show, there are so many guys into Pantyhose. And by the way, when I look at my downloads for episodes, certain things do better than others and certain. And Pany Hose is definitely one of them that is up there. So I think it's a very, not common, but like in the fetish world, right, if you're taking those things that are a little specific. I think it is one of the ones that is, you know, more common than the other ones, you know? Well, I was listening to one of your shows or one of those two shows and you're talking about it being a safer fetish or not. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the kind of the way I think of it as well. And yeah, so I was searching for content basically just kind of perusing around as I was sitting there, you know, relatively bored. And I came across this and I decided to, well, I just write in and see what happens. Yeah. No. It's always, listen, I can, I always say this and I can have like 50 guys on that have cheated on their wives, right? And I think I have.

probably had that many on that have cheated otherwise, but I'll always take the same topic again because each person's story is completely unique and always different. And I think it is always interesting to show so many different sides of something because it's not, everyone's not the same. Everyone's story is so different, right? And so maybe somebody could relate to your specific story as opposed to the other panty hose guys. But like what's interesting about you is like your wife, you're married, right? And your wife knows about the panty hose situation, right? Yes, she does. And now how did that come about? How old are you and how long you've been married for?

I'm in my early 40s and we've been married for about a week, 12 years this year. So, okay. And when you were dating before that, like have you been with her? Dating for about two years before that. Okay. And so when, like at what point in your relationship do you say, hey, babe, by the way, like, I'm really into pantyhoes. Like, how does that come up? And at what point? So I don't exactly remember the exact moment of time when it actually happened. but I think I told her from pretty onset that I liked them. I liked them on her.

I liked them, you know, it aroused me when she had them on just in the regular day as well. And we kind of just did that. And what's kind of funny now is that she actually uses it against me when she wants something. She'll put them on and wear them. Or she'll hold out and be like, I'm not putting on the panty hose unless. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a little running. bit of a running joke between us. And as time, after we got married, actually, I do remember this because she says I duped her.

It's like I expressed, I guess, a little bit of interest in wearing them or at least trying them on because I think she felt, you know, that I was even a little more touchy or a little more affectionate or whatnot when she was wearing them. And, you know, she would wear them like to bed and she would wear them, you know, before any type of things happened or anything like that. And I think she knew that that's what the trigger point was for me. Right. But you also like to wear the right. When is, when did you explain that end of it?

Or did that like come later? I didn't explain that to her to like after we were married to about like six months into that we were married. That's the part of it. Exactly. Yeah. Because really when I say like when did you explain to her that you were into pantyhose? Like explaining to a girl that you like think it's really fucking a hot when she wears panty

panty hose is no big deal, right? Like of course you said that early on. To me it's a little bit more of a trickier. conversation when you're going to say, hey, I really like to wear panty hose. And that turns me on. You know, so that's like the real conversation. I think it wasn't. I used it. Interesting. I used it as I didn't say I like it. I want to wear it, et cetera, just so head on. I said it was cold outside. Seriously? Yeah. Something to the fact or my leg hurts a little bit. I want a little bit of like compression and this might work for me or something like that. Oh my God. Well, she was like,

Did she play along with it? Or was she like, you got to be fucking kidding me. Like, this is so obvious. Yeah, no. She actually played along. I guess she played along with it. She didn't know. Yeah.

I mean, I remember actually being in New York for a vacation. And, you know, she's like, she let me at that time was more or less, I forget how long she had let me wear them at that point. But, you know, we went walking through the whole city and she had let me wear them underneath. And it was kind of cool. Because I think she had them on as well. So we're kind of just walking around. And that was kind of like the earlier times of when she let me wear them.

Or she let me wear them. Yeah. So listen, I think it's smart to do it that. Like you sort of like, it kind of like happened organically, right? Because after you put that out there, at some point it was like she was okay with the fact and realized that you were actually turned on by it. And it wasn't just like a physical comfort thing that you were using it for. Yeah, I guess so.

You know, she, she knew I liked it and then, like, I even tried to play it, like, you know, I did it for her or something like that, which she knows complete bullshit. That's what I mean, yeah. Yeah. Or whatnot. And then, you know, I think at some point she even bought me a couple pairs as well. Oh, that was nice. Yeah, I mean, she was kind of supportive of it. And then it kind of all fell apart one day when she found some pictures on my phone of other girls where,

wearing it. Well, that's a whole different thing because then she's kind of like, especially if she's like, listen, she was wearing the pantyos. I think like a woman thinks like, I'm fulfilling that need for you. Like, why do you need to go? You know, but what women don't understand is men just like variety, right? It's just like a thing, right? But she's probably like, I wear pantyos for you to bed all the time. You know, right?

Like that's what you said. And then you have to go looking for more girls in pantos. Yeah. That was probably probably, you know, some of the friction. that caused it more recently than not. And you were, though, let's get to that story because you were texting, like what she found on your phone was like,

it wasn't just like for your own pleasure, you were texting these kind of pictures and having this conversation with another friend of yours who's into pantyhose, right? Yeah, so I'm not sure how that started, but he's one of my closest friends, and we've been friends for a very long time. And so when we went to high school together,

we noticed that, you know, that was, kind of the era where it was more relevant. Totally. A lot of girls wear it more. They were like either under pants or under their uniforms or whatnot as just kind of a common day of parents. I think that we kind of held on to that and we knew that we liked that part of it. We never totally said it, but if we saw someone like in downtown, we would send a picture,

we would do whatever we needed to do to like share that experience. So there'd be some cross-sending, but that was the extent of it. And it wasn't anything else that we were doing bad with these pictures or anything else. Let me ask you because with that friend, like, you know, with that friend, does he also, like, how much do you know about his panty hose thing? Like, does he also like wearing it as well? So we've never talked about that or gotten to that part of it. It's always been like, you know, does your wife wear it? Does your girlfriend wear it for you or whatever?

He was a thigh high type of guy. And I remember he told me the day that his girlfriend finally wore thigh highs for him. And, you know, it was like, okay. But that was basically the extent of what we're sharing was of our personal experiences. I never went into anything more personal about myself, especially with, with him. Right. But let me ask you this. Is it typical?

Because I don't remember what my other panty hose guys like to wear panty hose too, right? And I would think that that's always the case or else it's just not really. I don't know. Is that always the case? So like, do you just assume that your friend wears them and you guys don't bring it up because that sort of that's like crossing a line and you just. are afraid to admit it? We just never crossed that line and never

talked about. But do you assume that he does? Do you think? No, I don't, I do not assume that he does. So you think that there are, or you know that there's people out there like, for you, was it always like you like to see women in pantyhoes and you secretly like to wear them yourselves? Or did the wearing them yourself sort of come later?

Like, how does it work? I probably wore them as early as like eight years old to go back to mirror what your, the other listeners as a kid. But I kind of shelved it for a long time and in between for large, long periods of times. So at eight years old, like, what are you doing? Like, you're in your mom's room or you're like, and you find a pair and then you put them on. Like, how does that work?

How does that happen? I remember at second grade, I had a teacher who were them wear a skirt, hose, and clogs. And clogs. Oh, my God. I forgot about that word. Are those shoes? Yeah. I remember very vividly.

I would, she'd come up here and have a sister review her, her tests or our homework or whatever, and I would put my hand on her leg as I leaned forward and looked at the homework. That was one of my first things. And you would feel aroused? No, no, I wouldn't say like aroused in the sense of like, sexual, no, because you're not a sexual being at that point, right? You're in second grade. No. Yeah, it was just more of a tactile, like this is kind of cool.

Uh-huh. And then I remember vividly also my, my mom. mom, she would wear them all the time, like under her pants as well. And I remember feeling up looking for the top and never, never finding the top. Uh-huh. So I thought that was kind of interesting. Yeah. It's kind of like a mind game to me there at that point. Right. Um, you know, I remember one, uh, one Halloween that, uh, my parents had me, uh, dressed as like, like a Robin Hood type thing. I don't I remember, but it had tights, green tights. Uh-huh. Or maybe black ones actually. It was black ones, I think.

But that was like, I think maybe one of the first times that, you know, one of the earlier times. All my aunts were them as well at the time when I was growing up. So it was just kind of. But you just remember focusing on it. Like that was like a thing for you, right? Like if you. Yeah. All the aunts came over.

Curiosity and just like, wow, that looks decent. Looks nice. It looks, you know, I, you know, my attraction was one of your other listeners said this too is like, you know, magazines. So it's easy for me to look at and view and look for them and find them. And it wouldn't say, get me off, but it'd be something for me to look forward to looking at. Right. But when you're eight years old, where do you find your first panning at? Like where, and put them on?

I probably stole my mom's ones quite a bit. You know, the stealing of it, I remember going and having to house a family. This was I was a little bit older. But I remember I was able to somewhat rummage through and find, or just, you know, while using the bathroom, I was like, oh, look at what we found here, right? I just kind of see it. But I didn't take them or steal them or soil them. Or put them on or anything?

Yeah. I love those stories. I've had those stories. I mean, they're stealing them from their sister-in-laws. I always find that interesting for some reason. Yeah, I wasn't a soiler. So you wouldn't put them on and jerk off. But, like, would you ever do that at home, like, when you were by yourself, like, with

your moms or, like, with, I don't know, any panty-hows? No, I actually didn't lose my virginity until 18. as well. I know you criticize people that lose it over 18. Criticizes the wrong word. Criticizes the wrong. No, no, no, we could have, we could talk about that because I find it fascinating. You're another guy that could give me your opinion, right? What do I fucking know?

I'm not a guy. So I like to hear from guys that tell me. But whenever I hear about a guy who's never like, when you say you lost your Virginia at 18, are you also talking or saying that you have never jerked off before 18? That was correct. Yeah, that's the, that's the oddest thing to me. And so is that a criticize? Like, am I, I don't know what the word.

would be. I don't know if criticize is right. I like to analyze it because I think that that's like fucking weird because like don't you get horny before that and how do you not know? I remember having like a wet dream when I was younger but I don't remember like I definitely didn't know the act of being conscious and having the same thing happened to me because when I was with my my first girlfriend you know it took a little bit longer than I would have liked compared to like the porn movies I've seen so. You mean the first time when you had sex? and lost your virginity. That's the first time your dick had ever had any contact

because you had a jerked off or anything. It was more about oral at that time. Okay, so you gave you a blow job. Yep, it took me a little bit longer, you know, and I've never, it took me a long time to get over that climax, so because I just never felt it or trusted it or was shy or worried or whatever. Oh, that is interesting. You don't think that's interesting?

Okay, let me ask you, do you talk to your other guy friends? Like, I need a psychologist to eat, like a sexologist. or somebody. You know me. I say I give unprofessional advice. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. This is just my experience. I have a lot of guys as friends, but I always find it odd when anybody, even a woman, like, I don't know, it's less surprising with a woman because sometimes they're a little bit

more uptight, but like for a guy to not really find his penis until he's 18 years old. And not to say just like you're saying not just fucking a girl. Like not jerking off to me is like, I find that. You don't think that's a little odd? I mean, it's it's just the upbringing that I had and I just never was either curious or maybe I peaked a little bit longer, but I just never felt like, uh, let's just start playing down there and see what happens. It's interesting.

Maybe, maybe it's like a testosterone thing. Maybe some, some boys like, you know, get that testosterone later in life because I just think it's like a natural thing that happens when you become like a sexual human being, right? And then you get these surges of hormones and then you just get really horny. I mean, I jerked off. I think by accident somehow the first time. And then after you feel it, you're like, oh, my God, this is like the greatest thing of every experience. You just can't stop, you know.

So I can't imagine a childhood of like not jerk. Like, you know, that's a lot of years, you know. But anyway, that's besides the point. But you're like trying on pantyhoes before that. Are you getting hard by them, like at the, right? But you just didn't know what to do. Like, is that happening? Yeah.

I think I just didn't know what to do at that point. I just didn't have enough experience or anyone. helping guide the way. Like you didn't know how that worked. Like you didn't know that if you just moved a little bit on that thing, that it would feel good and you could just like jerk off. So you would wear them and you would get horny and it would feel good. So you knew that you were like sexually aroused by this.

Yeah, but I just never took it to the to the end state. Right. And then after your first blow job, like when you finally had sex with a girl, did you have problems coming to or were you fought like once you got into it, you were fine? Once I got into it, I was fine because then. I became, I guess, quote unquote, normal and just wanted it more and more. Yeah, like a normal guy.

Right, right. Yeah. Yes, some of you must just be late bloomer. So I'll stop criticizing and I put that in close because I still don't think that's the right word. But it is a word. Like I do say something wrong about, you know, but I want to know like the reason. And I'm sure, like I said, maybe there's a psychologist or somebody or doctor that could tell me the reason why that's a common thing. And it's not odd or like it's not repression or something that I think it is.

So you get married So you meet this girl later in life Like do you like through your 20s right? Do you keep this like as a secret thing or do you tell other girlfriends or is she the first person that you know You really reveal it to? I remember telling another female friend but not no relations no sexual relations or anything like that just purely a friendship that I had a thing for that and she would catch me like when we were in public like catching a glance at some girl or she'd like see some else wearing them and she'd look at me and like catch me and like oh you know you I see that you know right calling me calling me out but wasn't it's kind of more playful than anything and and

she never were them at all um but you know it's just kind of like that topic came up during uh you know my younger stage and she wasn't even a girlfriend or anything like that or any your close friend you so you felt comfortable with her yeah and like to this to say she still knows that but you know she doesn't call me out on it anymore yeah that's cool it would be because you're married but like does she But did you tell her that you like to wear them too? No, I never have told some. So the only other time I tried to, I guess, tell somebody that I wanted to wear them was my first girlfriend.

And then she actually used to wear them as well because she wore them like, you know, during school, during, you know, even. I remember one time I went over her house and she was wearing shorts and nude ones underneath. And I was just like, holy cow. Like, I didn't even ask for this and she's doing that, you know. Right. And then I remember, you know, just reaching over and feeling them and kind of like watching a movie. I remember the movie, Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. Oh, my God.

So there he's wearing tights too, right? Well, I didn't notice that part of it. Oh, okay. She let me, like, just, you know, put her legs up on me and I just rub them like the whole time, basically. But I tried at some point, I think, to tell her that I wanted to try them on or wear them. And, you know, she didn't take to it too likely or, like, didn't. She's just like, no, that's kind of weird. And I think, I'm not sure if that was the catalyst for us breaking up or anything like that, but, you know, ultimately it didn't last or didn't.

Like very quickly after that or no? I don't remember the timing. It was kind of an early part of my life. And there's a lot of things happening. And, you know, I dated her for about three and a half years. So, you know, from start to finish, it's just a lot of things that were new in my life, obviously. Yeah, totally. So it just all happened kind of in a glance.

But I think, you know, she used to come over. She used to wear them. She used to wear them, you know, for me. you know, because her outfit didn't need to have them or anything like that. And sometimes, you know, oftentimes it led to, it always basically led to more things, you know, for us intimately. And then, but I think at one time I tried to tell her I wanted to wear them. And she just didn't turn out too well.

And then I kind of backed off on it. And let me ask you this. Did that like sort of traumatize you a little bit so that you didn't tell anybody until like, you know. Yeah. And then my next girlfriend, you know, she was not, she did not. She did not wear them. Another janitor coming, sorry. So it'll go away in a couple seconds here.

Another girlfriend, the next girlfriend, I kind of told her that I liked it. I remember her wearing it a couple times for me and, you know, and nice nights out or whatever. But it wasn't really, I kind of, I guess, sequestered the thoughts a little bit about that just because of that first experience. Right. I can imagine because, you know, when you, when someone makes you feel bad about what,

and she didn't probably even realize, and, you know, maybe because you, I think if she really broke up with you, because of that, it would have happened immediately if she was freaked out. I don't think, you know, like, I think you mentioned this that I said this on my other podcast. I don't think, like, there are certain things that guys have called in and told me that they're about, like, stuff that they're into that I would be like, listen, I get how that could be a deal breaker for some of it.

Maybe it would be a deal breaker for me, right? But, like, if I really liked a guy and I was with him and he was like, oh, by the way, like, you know, the panty house thing, I think. I think it's like it a lot more women than you think would be like kind of okay with it if they really like a guy, right? It's hard enough to find a guy you fucking like. And if you're like a good guy, like I mean to really throw you out because of that, like I think it's an easier thing for women to be accepting of more so than other things that people have called it about, don't you, right? Yeah. And I think like even for her today is like even though she just not even after the picture incidents and all that stuff, she's not totally in love with it.

But, you know, she, if she finds them around the house or whatever in my drawer, then she doesn't ever say anything or give me any negative, not too much negativity towards it, right? And she always kind of jokes that, you know, if I were to do anything wrong to her, that it'd be, you know, publicized or whatever. And I guess I had to get over that initially, knowing that if she knew that, and maybe that's maybe inherently why I told her after marriage, I don't know. Wait, wait, what do you mean? She said, oh, if we ever bring.

break up, I'll tell everybody what you're into? Yeah, or whatever. You know, she kind of jokingly uses that. Oh, I get it. It's totally in passing. She never tells friends or anything like that or publicizes it. Right, I'm sure. That's like an intimate thing between the two of you.

And she keeps it that way. So maybe that's why, why did she get so freaked out, you think, by the pictures? I mean, I know I had my version of it because maybe she's like, what the fuck. And a lot of women, like, I've had friends be, like, horrified that they found out that their boyfriends or husbands like look at porn it's like what's the big deal like who cares it's just you know yeah I think I think just for her it's kind of like like I guess spiritual cheating for her and it's like I'm getting my kicks off to someone else and somewhere else and not her and she doesn't think that that's okay yeah she doesn't think that's okay right you know and she she kind of I guess asked if it was reversed right if she looked at you know penises all day or whatever

you know how would I feel about that and I get it and I have I have stopped doing that It's not an interest to me anymore to take the pictures. But as I walk around, sometimes I glance and catch it, catch it sometimes. And, you know, I just. Oh, these were like pictures of girls on the street that you were seeing. It wasn't like pictures from like like a website or something. Oh, they were like a little stalkerish. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, like people that were it very nicely basically. Me and my friend would appreciate that. Right. You know, and remark how lucky that guy might be. Now, let me ask you this. Did she go back and say anything to that friend's wife?

Or like, are you guys really close where she knows that friend's wife and stuff? So she doesn't want me corresponding with him. So I'm kind of corresponding with him every once in a while, but not nearly as often as I used to. Oh, because of what happened? Partly, most, well, my wife to him because of that, but his wife never really loved me either. How come? Because I was just kind of like that jokester that she's never got my humor. I just never clicked with her.

So it was a forgettable relationship, basically. Right. Unfortunately, that happens sometimes when you partner up with somebody. You know, like it causes distance and friends. So I've accepted it. And that's fine. And he has, he has girls and I have boys, right? So it's just our life stages are totally different now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so as far as like your wife is concerned, it's just the, and you don't cheat on her other than that, like I'm assuming, right? Like, you're completely faithful, anonymous. Right, right, that's cool. Yeah, so the pictures you stopped that immediately, like, after that you stopped it. And you're fine, like, when you, like, as far as, like, because you said, like, your wife doesn't want you to be, like, jerking out to you what else?

Does that mean, like, you don't look at any kind of porn or anything else other than, like, to get you long? It doesn't do it. It doesn't do anything to me. I mean, like, like, one of your other callers, the magazines probably get me more excited of looking at those types of pictures than, than to see some, you know, and to see some girl, you know, naked or anything like that. Right, but that's porn for you. So, like, it is, like, you will.

Yeah, yeah. It's soft porn, I guess, or it's very soft. I mean, I think you're lucky. I'm sure I said that. You know, you're kind of lucky, right, that like you're, or maybe unlucky, because maybe you're just horny all the time walking around, even though pantyhows aren't that popular nowadays. Like, you know, back in the 80s, it was like everyone was wearing panty hose. No, I know. So interesting stories. I went over to overseas in Asia two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. It's very popular. over there. Oh.

Yeah. And it's kind of like, you know, girl, you know, every age girl was wearing them, right? In every situation. And it was just kind of like, wow, wouldn't my moving here and just going. Yeah. Because it's not anymore. You don't see it as much anymore, right? You'd be surprised.

I mean, so the ones that you do see, it looks good, right? I noticed, you know, about three or four downtown today. Uh-huh. That worked very nicely. So, you know. And let me ask you this. When you're, like, looking at the pantios, does it matter if it's like a tat, like, are you looking at the whole package? Or like if someone's like on the subway sitting across from you like, you know, and she's like really busted or something on like in her face, right?

But like her legs, she's wearing pantyos. Is that all that you focus on or does it have to be like the whole thing? I think it starts there. I mean, looking from bottom up. I mean, in all ways, right? the more leg showing, it's nice to me. It looks good. You know, if it's hidden behind pants and barely shown, then it's kind of weak.

Right. But, you know, if it's, like, really naughty or, you know, like they're like a really old, you know, shaggy pair or whatever, that's not too great. But if she has a nice pair on and it looks nice and she makes a point to show it off, like with a nice skirt or accessorized accordingly, then I think that's part of the attraction and interest. regardless of how she looks. Right, right, right. So it does it. So it just, but it does, it's not just the pantyhose. It's like the way it's presented is what you're saying.

It's the whole visual thing, right? Yes. Probably very similar to any person if they're, when they're visually turned on, right? It's not just panties in general just don't get you crazy. So your wife buys them for you sometimes, right? And then not anymore, but she did buy them a couple times for me. How come not anymore? Like after those pictures or just not anymore?

because. Well, I acquired my own as well, and she just leaves it at that now. What do you mean you acquired your own? Like you got a bunch and you don't need anymore? So I just, no, I bought them myself or, you know, or whatnot, right? I didn't rely on her to get them for me anymore. Right, right. And like how many times, like, because you say, like, sometimes you like to put them on

and cuddle with her, like, and like, do you like to, like, is there some sort of like, because I had another guy on that way. There was an exhibitionist sort of quality about his panty as wearing. So, so the closest I got to like, not exhibitionist, but like wearing them, I guess, in public is if I'm like traveling for work, sometimes I'll wear it under shorts and walk out at night or something like that. And there, it's, you know, kind of, it's very exposed. But I think, you know, no one could probably tell that I'm really wearing them because just the type that I wear or whatever. Right.

Right, you do it at night, just, and then I'm assuming maybe you don't go into any places that it's like really bright, right? But yet you could still do it. Like, so that is kind of exhibitionist, right? But you're just doing it in a very safe time. So people don't really know, but you are out and about. Yeah. And, you know, I pretty much have zero chance to run into somebody that I wouldn't know as well. That's another thing that kind of gets me on my nerves up.

You know, if I'm traveling for work, I'll probably not know anyone in that area. Right. So that's another safer spot for me. But like does that lead to like a jerking off session when you get home? Like is that what it's about? No. No, no, it's not what it's about. It's more just like comfort.

And it's got interesting. It's just like in some ways in my mind, it's kind of like girls are, I'm jealous of them that they get to wear that whenever they want in public and whatnot. Uh-huh. So it's like this is my chance to do what they want to do or they do. And it's like then I get to kind of experience that. and like an hotel room. Because it's not totally sexual, right? No, it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's more about comfort and yeah, I mean.

But there is a female, there is like, it's not like you're a transgender person, right? Like a transgender person wants to do everything that women do. But there is a tiny aspect of the fact that you're like, you wish you could sort of have panty hose and wear them whatever you wanted to like a girl. Like there's that, there is that kind of, right? That's, that's as far as it kind of goes, though. Right, right. I mean, there's no, you're not wearing mascara too in high heels. No.

Right. That's, I mean, right, exactly. But I'm just saying it is, I would always think of things that they're just like sexual in nature. I don't even think I got to this point in my questioning with these other guys that like whether it wasn't, you know, but with you, I don't think that they explained that it wasn't always sexual in nature. Like, I'm thinking if you're going out and you're wearing them, right, in public

at night, in a place it's like. like because it turns you on and like it gives you a heart on and then you go home and jerk off. But it's really because you actually find it comfortable. Yeah. That's that's really what it is. I mean, I don't have to go back and, you know,

finish the deed or anything like that afterwards. It's not, it's not all about that for me. Right. But are you hard when you're doing it or aroused or no. It's literally like, you just feel nice. It feels nice.

I mean, it's not like I'm totally, you know, aroused the whole time or anything like that. It's just a very comfortable feeling all the way down. I find pantyose to be so uncomfortable. They're always falling down and you're pulling them up. I mean, like, I think most women find them uncomfortable. It's interesting that you find them comfortable.

It's like it must be something because you've been doing it for so long, you know? Yeah, possibly. I mean, maybe just like having like the tighter fabric around, you know, my private parts as opposed to like having boxers on every day, right, which is the loose as possible. and, you know, just to have that, like, kind of like that, you know, cupping feeling or whatever, right? You know, the support feeling. Right. So when you wear them with your girl, right?

Like, it's not like you're doing it, like, right before you have sex or during sex. Like, sometimes you're just doing it, like, when you're walking around or you're on vacation, right? Is that what you said to? Yeah, it's quote unquote cold, right? Like, we went to the mountains the other day and she found a pair. And she said, why'd you bring them for it? You know, it's like families around. Friends are around.

I'm like, well, I've been cold. or I think I said actually I just grabbed them by accident but I knew it was going to be super cold and it'd be kind of a nice time to wear them but I never got a chance to her I didn't want to you know in front of like family or friends or anything like that so I just kept them hidden

but she found it when we were unpacking so it's like really when you say like in the beginning when you said that the way it came up is like you're like I'm kind of cold could I wear them like you're like you're like you right it's not like a way of getting her to allow you to and it's not like your way of tricking her into thinking that you're wearing them

because they're cold and you're really just getting turned on by it. Like you actually like to wear them if you know it's going to be cold because it keeps you warm. Yeah. Like if if I were her different gender, I would feel like I would probably wear them every day. Yeah, you'd be very out of style, but that's okay. With shorts?

I mean, no one wears them with shorts anywhere. That would be kind of funny. Don't you think? Nude ones, especially. That's the thing that I find so interesting because most of my pantyhoes guys right, like the nude. What about you? It's nude. It's as clear as possible. You know, if you look at like Kate, the princess Kate, whatever last name, Middleton, you know, she's wearing them all the time now. And those are great pictures for me to look at. Oh, I didn't, I never seen those. Or is that like a thing? Like she's bringing back nude pantyhoes? Absolutely. There's articles about it. There's, you know,

about how she's, you know, basically either quote unquote required to wear it because of where she's, you know, her, her, her, her, royal familyness or you know she's trying to bring back it she's bringing back a new style and it's actually she looks very nice the way she she she presents herself right with the nude stockings and you like the nude ones too what about if somebody has like sheer black ones is that a turn on oh it's it's a turn on for me but it's not as much um you know it's more about i guess comfort or the feel i guess so you know i think for me i wanted to try on black ones at some point just to see they felt different, but they didn't. So I just go back to the nude ones.

Right, because you like just to maybe the shine that it gives your legs, but you could see through them and you feel them. Actually, I don't even like the shine of it. You know, I want as like unnoticeable, barely noticeable as possible. Because if I did wear it out in public, I don't want to be called out on it. Like, looking like sand-ex-hink.

But you have like hair on your legs and like, don't you think it changes the way that hair looks? It's all shaved off or it's very little. So it's either, I never had a lot of hair in the first place. Uh-huh. And then now there's no hair on me. How come?

Because you shave it? Well, Asian. Oh, there you go. You're so lucky. Yeah. Yeah. I have like, you know, quote unquote dolphins again or whatever. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. So it's very easy to be hairless or have hair. Right, right, right. Yeah, no, that's great. So you don't have to like, because you have such little hair you don't see. Because that would be, I think I've brought this up on my other shows. It would look a little bit, you know, odd if you're really hairy.

It doesn't look abnormal for me to not have hair on my legs. Right. I personally think that your other friend, I don't know, and I'd like to hear from other panty hose guys, like, but I really think that probably if it is your fetish that you really have this sort of attraction to panty hose, like you do, like my other colors have, like a lot of people do, like have, because like I said, I've seen a lot of ads out there for that topic. I think it probably goes most of the time both ways

where they like to see women wearing them and then they like to wear them. Yeah, but I guess for me too is I have no interest in seeing another guy in that. Of course, right. That's not a part of it. So that's probably why I have just no curiosity or, you know, let's have the friend and I take it to another level

or whatever. It's not like that to me at all. Right. No, I would think maybe if before like you, I don't know, like at some point in your life, if you knew that that guy and like you started to be into it, like you just, maybe just want to know that somebody else was too, so you'd feel more quote unquote normal. Because I don't know, maybe at some point early on you were, was there any kind of confusion? Like, why do the fuck do I like this?

So what does it mean? I don't know if there's any confusion in me or like why do I feel this way or not. Yeah, I never really doubted myself in that. way like I never felt like abnormal like you know right like you never wondered though if there were other guys like you so I guess like you know through the means of the internet and all that stuff I look for like I remember doing searches for like you know wives and and and or husband and pantyhows right so the very specific that they were married and then their husband where is it or whatever and I read the stories out there and some women are just very accepting and I guess

I'm blessed with one of those women that's somewhat accepting you know minus my other flaws of taking pictures and all that's stuff. But, you know, it's just, I know that there's other people out there. It's just I have no need to, like, need to, I guess, you know, have any type of camaraderie with them or anything like that. Right. No, I was thinking maybe more when you were younger with your friend, because you connected with him at a very, at a very, like, when you were really young as far, you know, on the panty hose thing. Like, you could tell that he liked it and you liked it. And at that point, you were wearing them yourself. I was just wondering if you ever, like, got a, actually

Actually, in high school and in college, I don't think I did wear them at all. Oh, you didn't? No, I mean, I think I shied away from it quite a bit. I was just dealing with too much adolescent activities. And I never snuck that stuff in or anything. And it wasn't until like, you know, like said, after like girlfriend again and then maybe my, you know, much younger youth that I did do that stuff. Like I remember in third grade sneaking it and wearing it to school. Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah. So I remember doing that actually. That was kind of naughty. Yeah, and I just had that flashback right now. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, it is. That's like what that talk therapy is all about. You know what I mean?

Like you're just talking like things and it brings stuff up. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like because it's fascinating. So you just remembered, what did you just remember that you wore them? In third grade, I wore them to school. Really? And whose were they?

Were they your, like, I mean, in third grade, how do you find a pair that fit you? My mom. So little and she's so tall. No? I had a, you know, an Asian mother and I was okay size. So it worked out well. Right. So now you just remember you could picture yourself like wearing them underneath your clothes

and you go to school and obviously nobody catches you. Yeah, no one caught me. I mean, it was totally hidden. Wow. And that's the only time you remember. How do you know that there aren't other things that you, maybe you did at other times? You don't remember, right? There are.

I mean, I think in amping up for this call with you, I just thought of some other things. I don't remember them like right at this moment, but I was just kind of reviewing, you know, my journey of Hose, right? So, yeah. You know, just a lot of things, right? Like, even the picture of things.

It's like, I remember going to internet news groups. And that's probably a thing that most of your listeners may not even know what that is. I was just going to say, what is that? Could you explain? So it was basically these news groups were kind of like forums, but people figured out how to, to share pictures on them, you know, basically called encoding. So they turn into googly text.

You'd reassemble them and show pictures. And I would be looking for the Panyos forum. And the other people that had, you know, fetish for this or like seeing women in Panehose would share the pictures. And I would, you know, look at those pictures. And again, not do anything else after that. Right. It was just kind of like, wow, I have these great pictures.

And I remember looking at some sites and it's like, wow, that's a great pair. She's wearing them beautifully. And, you know, I wish I could touch that. I wish I could, I wouldn't say wear it like her, but, you know, she's lucky that she gets to wear them all day or whatever. Right, because you wish that you could. Yeah. I've never heard of that. What is it called again?

An internet. Oh, internet news groups. Right. And was that something that they had a long time ago or they have those now? Probably in the 90. I mean, it's converted like Google groups now. It's converted. The Reddit is very similar to that, but it's just very.

much in the internet infancy. Right. Uh-huh. Now, does your wife, how long ago did she bust you as far as those pictures are concerned? Like, how long did that go to that? Probably about like about four years ago. Right. And how long did it take do you feel like for her to like trust you again? Like, I mean, or well, like, I know that, you know, I keep a couple pairs in my, my underwear drawer. I know she's seen them because, you know, she puts my clothes away or she, you know, she doesn't say anything negative about it or, you know, it's just kind of like an understated rule that don't wear them around the kids, don't wear them.

And I'm not sure when she thinks I wear them now because it's kind of a little more muted now. But, you know, she doesn't say anything too negative about it. No, I'm talking about the picture thing. Like how long, like, you know, because she caught you with those pictures right. And she got really upset. That's what I'm talking about. Like when, how long ago did she find out and,

and did it take her while? Right, right. And did it take her a while to trust you again? Yeah, because, you know, she would, she would not wear them for a long time.

She would, she got rid of all my whole collection at the time. Right. And then, you know, she would not wear them at all. And then, you know,

slowly my birthday came up. Right. I totally get, uh-huh. Yeah, my birthday came up. And then I remember like pretty much every week on my birthday, she would like kind of wears them almost every day.

For me, right? Like on certain occasions we go out, like Valentine's, she'll put them on. Uh-huh. You know, there's this really like kind of nude pair that she had just last Friday. She wore it for, I guess for me, because it's Friday and, you know,

most people don't wear those on Fridays, especially. Uh-huh. Yeah, casual Fridays, right. Yeah, and she wore them, you know, she wore, you know, the way, you know, under her pants and all those other stuff and the color that I liked and everything. So. But eventually she got, so eventually slowly she got back to doing it for you.

Because for a while, like you said, she was like no more panty hose for you. Yes. Probably about like maybe a year, half year that said about that. Right. You were in the doghouse. Yeah. No more picture. I mean, how'd she find them?

Because it was the Apple iPhone and they had that picture sharing on multiple phones and I had a work phone. And my son took the other phone for me, my work phone. And then the kid was taking pictures. And then she was reviewing the pictures. And then she saw something like where she knew I was, like either like a church or airport or something like that. And she's like, you took these pictures. You know, it wasn't your friend sending them to you.

And I think she caught me like two or three times actually. Oh, you're kidding. And she told you stop, right? Yeah. Yeah, the first time I was I said he sends them to me. I don't send them. And then I think the last time it was kind of like she was able to put piece a picture together where she knew where that was. Uh-huh.

And she said you said she said you sent that to him at that point. Right. Right. I didn't lie because I Rari was in the shitter. Well, you tried to lie first and then she really busted you. So then you're like, okay, you'll give it up. I mean, because at that point she had proof. Yes.

Which listen, some guys and women too, some crazy liars. other they will still commit to their lie even when they feel have proof you know what i mean that's like crazy making for poor women but once she like was like hey listen i know what the deal is you came clean yep and then you stop because you said she found you twice and then she was like i could see why she was really mad because like you had lied again you know at first she finds out that you're doing something and she doesn't know that's like a betrayal and then like you lie about it and you're still doing it right yes and then now i don't do it at all i mean right and that with a clean conscience.

Right. And after six months to a year, she started to go back to doing the things for you again and you were able to bring up the panty hose thing. Yes. I got my birthday. I pretty much wear them.

I don't think she's caught on or she might have checked once or twice, but it's not like she'll be like, what the heck is this or anything? Right. You don't have to worry. I think that's great. I think it's great.

You know, I think there's probably a lot of guys out there. that are married or even dating women, maybe younger guys, you know that have this quote unquote as a secret, right? And, you know, it must be like, some people might get off on the fact that their wives doesn't know. I don't know, but like, you know, it might be like really horrifying and wish they could be in your position, right,

or they could just do it and be open about it and not have to worry that, oh, you know, your wife will lean over and touch your leg and be like, what the hell is that, right? Like that's great. Yeah, I mean, if anything, yeah, she, if I, if there was that case where we, you know, where it led to more, you know, she would feel that on my leg and then, you know, kind of her hand would go up even higher and that's like one of the greatest feelings I've felt. So I don't need it for every day, uh, love making or anything like that.

But it is one of the greatest feelings, uh, that I've felt for, you know, with regards to, you know, having them on and having her touch me in that way. Uh-huh. And I remember like in your email, I think you said something about like with your friend. And I thought you meant wearing them like, because you said something like, because you said something like, his wife will only like wear them to a funeral or a wedding or something? I don't know. There was some sort of specific thing about weddings and funerals with your friend's wife, but it's not about him. He's not allowed to her. It was she would only wear them at a funeral or wedding for him. Was that the case? Yeah, possibly. It might be the same friend. I can't remember the exact email I sent. But, you know, yeah, she would only wear it on, you know, very specific times for him. You know, it wasn't really for him either at that point. It was just the, the quote, unquote, standard.

you know, we're, right? But I feel like my wife will even wear it in more casual situations. Even on Friday, like I told you, she were to work. And then on Saturday, she went somewhere. And she put black ones on with like this romper, like shorts, I guess. And I'm like, wow, that looks cute on you. And showing off quite a bit of leg. And too bad, like, you'll be going somewhere else and I won't be able to see this.

But, you know, I was very excited to see her when she came home, you know, to see if she'd still keep it on or whatnot. not. Yeah, that's not bad. I mean, for her, it must be a pretty easy way to, like, you know, get some, like, good compliments and feel hot to her husband, right? Especially after all these years, no matter how long you've been with her, she puts on a pair of panty hose and you get really excited. I mean, I hope she feels that way. I mean, sadly, it does that. And I don't need it to do that, but it does do that. You know what I'm saying? What do you mean sadly? Well, like, I don't need it to, like, take it to the next level. And I don't want her thinking, like, material needs is what I need to view her as being beautiful. Right.

But no, no, I, like, right, you always find her beautiful. You're very attracted to her. But when she puts that on it, so then it's like a woman when she's like, every woman, even if you know, like, your husband finds you attractive even in the morning with no makeup on it and sweats. and like you love that but like there are times when women get really dressed up where they put on something special and it's like oh like you look really good like that feels good to a woman no matter what you know okay yeah well i try to tell her that all the time yeah so right so well she's lucky that you know you do that most guys don't uh so she gets her share of that but i'm just saying so all she has to do is like if

she really wants extra cobblest she just has to put on a pair of panty hair right yeah it's not so bad That's why I just don't think that it's, though it's, I think, a big fash that a lot of people are into, I don't think it's one. So maybe there are a lot of guys. Like when you go to that forum and check out whether, you know, those stories about husbands being married, are there a lot of husbands that tell their wives and they're cool with that? Some are very accepting and some, you know, forced other comments are just let him do it or it's or it's just a piece of clothing. It's not like he's, you know, dressing like a full female or anything like that. Exactly. So it's kind of like, I guess, more benign than a lot of other things.

It's not like there's whips or, you know, or. Yeah. Anal, anal stuff happening or anything like that. It's very benign feeling. So a lot of the sediment is just let it happen or let it go or it's hidden. Uh-huh. You know, that's usually the case. Yeah, I think it's not that.

I don't think it's that big of a deal. I could see why some men would hide. And I could see why some women would be a little freaked out because maybe they would, like, Did your wife have other questions? But I mean, yours came on so sort of gradually. Like, you know, because I could see if maybe someone was just straight out and said, hey, this is what I'm into and I like to wear them too? I think the girl might be like, what does that mean?

Yeah. Yeah. I think she always knew that it wasn't ever like kind of more than that. Uh-huh. You know, I never showed a little more, I guess, affinity towards like the makeup or like the bra or the panties or anything like that. It was just that. And I think from that aspect, she was able to kind of confirm that that's all. it really was or that all it really is.

Right, because you had been into it for so long on, on her as well. And it, like you said, it wasn't like you were like fawning over her lipstick wearing as well. It was just the- Or high heels or- Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Right. I mean, then it gets a little bit more complicated. But I think that, you know, if you have to have a fetish, the panty-hows or even the foot one, I think the foot might be the foot fetish thing is another really common one, right?

That's out there. And I'm just like, oh, they must go crazy in the summer or if they live in a place where there's just a feed all around. Well, if you're, if you're a girl with that, then you, you get free foot massages all day. Exactly.

Yeah. I mean, or what about the girls? Yeah. No, but what about the girls that go? There was a foot fetish guy that called in and he would say, he'd pay like this girl like seven,

you know, there's girls that, you know, get paid money. They're like foot hookers. I don't know what you call them. But like, and they get paid for guys to like massage their feet.

And I'm like, that's like a really good gig for a college girl that doesn't want to like, you know, go out and do anything really hardcore, right? you just sit there and get your feet massage. The guy pays like $75. Well, I know people would pay for pictures, right?

Like, I never proposed to my wife that she should just take pictures of her legs even. But, you know, so, but there are people out there that, I mean, when I was looking, when I was younger. Yeah. And Kemp wanted to see pictures, right? There was pay for sites, right? So they exist out there. Right. I don't frequent them that often at all pretty much anymore.

Right. But I know they exist. And so. So for variety, if you ever do need a little variety outside of like your wife, is it just enough for you to see the girls walking around and look in the magazines? That's all like you really need. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, like if I were, you know, I guess to meet you in person and you're wearing them, it's like my mind would be on them a little bit. Right.

You know, if you're, you know, like I get a kick off of, you know, hose under trousers. That's actually a term that you can scoogle for, hose under trousers. So what? Right. And how do you know that they're wearing that? Like, how could you even tell? Well, you don't. That's the mind game is like. So it's like, I always wonder, are they wearing it all the way up?

And then if they're wearing it all the way up, is it for comfort or is it for warmth or is it for, you know, they just like it. Because there's knee highs, which don't do anything for me. Right. And then, you know, I think, you know, like I remember this just thought just came up too. I remember working one time and seeing one of the secretaries, you know, kind of move her shirt around and she was wearing black slacks. And then I saw the top of her pantyhoes through there. then, you know, I just realized that, yeah, she gets to wear them every day, right? Right.

And so when you see that peeking out and you know it's underneath there. Yeah. That's what intrigues her. Right. Totally intrigues me. Yeah, that's so interesting because I'd be like, how would you even know that somebody's wearing them under slacks? What about thigh highs?

You like thigh highs too? No, they don't do it. Yeah, it's really weird. They have to go all the way up. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. It's like, it's like, that's why I said, like, I mean, I forget my first pantyho's collar.

he was a little bit less hardcore than you, right? But then there was the other guy who was like wearing full panty hose, right? Was that the other guy that you read? Over over his whole body or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was hardcore. He was hardcore with it. But, you know, it's just like different, like people have, every person is like I said so

different and people take things to different, you know, sort of levels, right? And because my show is completely anonymous, I don't know who you are. People make up names. Nobody knows. Like people are really honest. So it's just like, I think that it's interesting. interesting to know that like maybe if you're dating somebody or you're married somebody like panty hose to know that it could be a guy like you that's completely monogamous totally loves

his wife totally not by not gay not a cross dresser not transgender not any of those things that maybe somebody might want to not have in their relationship right but like and could just like to wear them sometimes because it's cold you know or whatever and that that is as far as it goes you know yeah i mean surprisingly they actually have panty house four men. There's actually companies that are trying to market towards that now. Oh, that's kind of hilarious. That's smart, right? But the thing is, is that, you know, let's just say they became mainstream.

With the allure of it, go away, right? And, you know, just to, you know, I'm not sure of it all over. No, I don't, I don't know. Yeah. I'm not in that boat and I'm not buying those ones. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's interesting that someone created that, you know?

Yeah. I'm not wearing them in public in that. way or part of my daily outfit or anything like that. So, or at least showing, right? Right. It's a little bit on the down low. I think so a lot of, you know, because everyone's wired so differently, some people the turn on might be that people don't know.

Some people might, it might be more of a sexual thing than not, you know, it's all different. That's why it's so interesting, like I said, to talk to different people's because, you know, I talk to two other pantyhoes people and I always learn something new talking to someone else. Like, you know, so it's, it's, you know, I'm, I'm. I'm glad that you called in a rodent, you know, and found my podcast, Paul the Pantyhose. I think I'm going to call you Paul the Pantyhose guy or Paul isn't a Panyos.

Something I don't know, but I like the P. There you go. Yeah, so there you go. So thanks for calling in Paul and being so honest about all your stuff. Well, thank you very much. It's a great outlet. Yeah, no, I'm glad. I mean, look at you, you were able to talk about your whole history.

Remember some things, right? And reminisce about Pantyhose. So, you know, it's like a good. lunch break for you. I don't know if you're going to lunch break. All right, thanks for calling in Paul. Okay, have a nice day. You too.

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