Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 175 - Robin and Adam are Ineffective Swingers

Episode Date: April 23, 2017

Robin and Adam call in because they're trying to be swingers but it just doesn't seem to be working for them. They're specifically looking for another guy who would be interested in getting a blowjob�...�from Robin, while Adam watches, but no one seems interested. Why can't they find a guy to participate? Have they ever had a threesome before? When and why did they decide to swing in the first place? Tune join to find out, plus hear all about Robin's fascination with blowjobs, their experiences with other women and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Strictly Anonymous on the Riotcast network, riotcast.com. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
Starting point is 00:00:22 The temptation is just too much. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your brief flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here are your hosts, Kathy K. and Tommy. Hey, welcome to strictly anonymous podcast to Kathy.
Starting point is 00:00:41 You want to follow the strictly anonymous podcast on Twitter, follow the show at Strick Anonymous, or follow me at Cartoon Therapy. If you can like my Facebook page, that would be really great. It's strictly anonymous on Facebook. If you want to, if you haven't subscribed for the show, subscribe to the show. And if you can write a review. I know it's hard. I think a lot of people don't write reviews because they make you use your iTunes account. And a lot of times it has people's name.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And maybe some people don't want to be associated with like a podcast that has titles like, you know, so and so fucked his stepmom. Because I think when you look at the titles of my show, you think it's like some dirty sex show. And it's really not for all the people who do listen. You know that it's not like some dirty sex show. But I get that maybe you don't want to have your real name like on a review for my show. But if you have a fake name where you're a fake name where you're not.
Starting point is 00:01:28 your name is not readable, and you can write a review on my podcast, rate of review, because I need them. They really help the show, and I like to read them. What else? If you want to be on my show, send me an email at Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com. I'm down to talking to people with problems. I love to help people, really. That's why I like to do my show, and that's why I actually do my show. I also like to talk to people who have interesting lives or secret lives. Everyone who calls in is totally anonymous. So if you're interested in being on my show, send me an email at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Today I have on a couple, Robin and Adam.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And the funny thing about Robin and Adam is they were like, sent me a million emails ahead of time talking about how they wanted to have like the best sound ever on my show because they were going to do it via Skype or all these different ways that nothing really worked. And if you asked me, they turned out to have like the worst sound ever because they're like two people talking on a phone and one person sounds like. like kind of low and one person sounds like, because they like pass the mic back and forth. This is not, it's not that great. But like I said, and that was like their thing. They wanted to
Starting point is 00:02:36 have the best sound ever, which that didn't work out. And the other thing that doesn't work out for them is their swinging lifestyle. This is a couple who wrote in and said that they have like some sort of swinging lifestyle that they lead, but they feel like it's kind of hard to, you know, make it happen because they're black and they think it's like a race. And they think it's like a race. thing, but we talk a lot about it, and I don't think it's a race thing. I have other reasons for why, like other ideas about why it's not working for them, and I tell them those ideas, and I'm wondering what you think when you listen to this. But like I said, they wrote into the show, and it really is, this whole show is really about, like, their history as a
Starting point is 00:03:20 couple. Robin's got an interesting background. She really likes to do something specific sexually, which you'll hear all about. Well, blow jobs because it'll probably be in the intro or the description. So, you know, she loves to give head. We talk all about that. And then we talk about their ineffective swinging lifestyle. I don't know. A part of me thought maybe towards the end and they were maybe full of shit or telling me some like fake stories.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But you tell me what you think. And if they're listening and they're not full of shit and their stories were really real, you know, of course I welcome them back to be on my show to prove to me. But. And I don't mind. I don't mind if they were pulling my chain, you know, but if you're going to be on my show and you want to lie about something, like, you better have fucking good answers because I'm going to grill you like Barbara Walters.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And once I start doing that, it's really hard to lie when someone asks you questions like I do because I'll back you into a corner and you'll sound stupid. They don't sound that stupid, but I don't know. I'm wondering what you think. If you have an opinion about this podcast, send me an email. It's strictly anonymous podcast. at gmail.com. But take a listen and, you know, figure it out for yourself. I'll be right back on with Robin and Adam. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone,
Starting point is 00:04:41 to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, Robin and Adam. Welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast. You're on with Kathy.
Starting point is 00:05:08 How are you? Good. And you? I'm good. So a couple of things on this podcast that are big deals. First of all, I rarely have couples on my show. I think I've done it once before. Only once, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So it's always exciting to do something that I haven't done really at all or that much. And the second thing is we're doing like a different way of calling in. And hopefully the sound quality will be better because people have been complaining. And it's true. My sound quality for my callers is not so great. So hopefully this sound quality is better. So you guys are a couple, right? And you're calling in because you sent me an email saying that you guys are like swingers, right?
Starting point is 00:05:52 and you live like an alternative lifestyle. And you guys wanted to call in and talk about that because you guys are also black. And you said to me, like you're like, oh, of course you know that it's much harder for black people to be in this lifestyle and stuff. And I didn't know that, right? Even though you assumed that I did.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But I had no idea that there would be a difference, right? Whether you're black or white, like being, and I'm assuming maybe it's different if you're Chinese or as well. I don't know. I never knew that that was. is a thing, but apparently it is, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 As far as like your experience, right? When you, you were said like in your experience when you've been transitioning into the lifestyle, right? Yes. And it's something new for you guys? Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you guys don't sound very excited. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Listen, the thing is like. For swingers. You guys are having a lot of good sex. You should be more, you know, happy. This is what it is, Kathy. Yeah, okay. Like, once you make that turn or turn that corner and say that that's something you're going to decide to do or try to do. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And then you have to go out and openly seek. Mm-hmm. That's the crazy part. That's the crazy part. You mean finding people to hook up with? At least that for us, yes, correct. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:18 That's where the race thing. That's what you're saying, like the black and white thing comes. into play, right? Correct. Okay. But I don't want to focus so much on that. That'll come in like, you know, naturally when we talk about the whole sort of history of it. I want to get a little background on you guys, right, to see.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Because like, you did say that the swinging thing is kind of new, right? How long have you guys been together? Are you guys married, dating? What's your guys deal? We are dating. We've been together off and on for 12 years. We live together. We've lived together for what
Starting point is 00:07:54 Maybe eight years So you've been together a very long time So basically you're like a married couple That just has never gotten married Unless what is the on and off thing? Like when you guys go What do you mean on and off? Like have there been years that you guys weren't together?
Starting point is 00:08:10 Are you constantly breaking up and getting back together? We broke up for two years And then Other ones are just little breakups I think it was fun if you said so. It was two years because you dated someone else, I dated someone else. I thought it might have been a little longer than two years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's hard because I have two people on the call, right? But like one person is close to the mic and like, so I could really hear you. Oh, no, I'm sorry. You're in the back. You're in the background giving like the peanut gallery like, you know. Synopsis. I need you both when you're talking to be as loud, right? I think that that would be better.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Okay. So, um, so you guys been together like a really long time, right? When did this whole thing, and you broken up, whatever, like we don't have to get specifically into that because you guys are pretty much together, right? Yeah. At this point. Um, when did the whole swinging and like having more of an open relationship come into play in your relationship?
Starting point is 00:09:16 Well, for me, I think it's been pretty much since we started dating. Oh, it has. I thought, for some reason, did you just say it was a new thing or no? Was I wrong? It kind of new. Okay, so when we started dating, I had just recently broken up with someone and he was still seeing someone. And he used to always say, oh, I know that you're leaving my house and going to suck his dick just after you got finished sucking my dick. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You mean, he thought you had somebody else. Yeah. Mm-hmm. you meaning your ex-boyfriend, the guy that you just broke up with? Right. Okay. And were you? Was he right?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, I was leaving his house and then. You were? Yeah. So you broke up with that guy, but like everybody in life, like, you never could just get a clean breakup. Like you were still maybe just having sex with him every now and then? Yeah, I was literally just going to give him head. Oh. One day.
Starting point is 00:10:18 The guy, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. So you break up with a guy. but you're still blowing him on the side? Yeah. How come? Like, what was that deal? Was he like, I mean, was he giving you head to?
Starting point is 00:10:30 I mean, I'm just a little curious. I know this has nothing to do with the story, but I'm curious about that aspect of it. Because I genuinely like giving head. Okay. But you didn't like him anymore, right? You guys broke up? I didn't like him anymore,
Starting point is 00:10:44 but that didn't stop me from giving him head. Like, I still got pleasure out of giving him head. Okay. you're one of those girls on my callers love. Like you just really like sex, right? And so even though you broke up with this guy, you were starting a new thing with a new guy, but you kept that thing going on with the other guy.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And I guess you knew she was a freaky girl when you met her because you called her out on that shit and you were right. Absolutely correct. Absolutely correct. And you were okay with that? You know how sometimes I'm sure you've met one of these people. who are such terrible liars. Yes, but they lie anyway.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Wait, wait, such terrible liars that the lie that they give isn't even believable. And she'd like look you in the face and like swear to you like whatever she was saying was true. Straight up and I mean swear on every type of religious artifact. Oh my, wasn't it driving you mental? I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, wasn't it making you crazy? There was a point. But see, I'm going to tell you was funny about that, Kathy.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. The reason I was able to deal with it because my father, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't even it. My father was the same sign. And he used to do the same thing. What do you mean the same sign? Like astrology sign? Like a scorpion? Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:05 A scorpio lying fucking Scorpio. Man, my pops would lie to me about stuff that made absolutely no sense. What was the sign? Aries. Oh, I'm an Aries. You're out of your mind. I'm an Aries. Aries are the most honest.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You're so wrong. That isn't going to do with being a fucking Aries. Let's not get into astrology on this call. My listeners will go mental. Let's not talk about it. I'm telling you, man, my pops, not even just my pops. I've dealt with a couple of different Aries. And they all lie to you?
Starting point is 00:12:35 And they, I'm talking about Kathy. You used to lie to me so, like, easily and straight to. To your face? Listen, my very first serious girlfriend, she was an Aries too. Same thing. Look me right in the eye and lied to me. I think this is what's happening. What are you?
Starting point is 00:12:51 What's your sign? You're Scorpio. No. What are you? Virgo. Okay, I like Virgos. But this is what I think. I think you're living in an alter universe where everyone's telling you the truth, but in your world it's all the lies.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Because Aries are like the most honest people I know. I'm like brutally honest. Every Aries I know. Yet you have only met Aries that are all lying to your face. It's so weird. I haven't only met Aries, but those ones that I, listen. Yeah, your father, your first girlfriend and this girl. Yeah, my pops was the first one.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, crazy. That was the first one that I ever had to deal with And then Right and then of my first girlfriend that ever had She was one Yeah yeah yeah then of course you attract I'm sorry I'm just trying to Fast forward because people want to hear about all the sex stuff
Starting point is 00:13:33 But All right so yeah your father was a fucking liar So you meet all these liars This girl's lying to your face about like what She's totally cheating on you behind your back And you can't take it And this is the thing The craziest thing about it was
Starting point is 00:13:46 We weren't even serious at the time So I just couldn't understand why she would even be lying Yeah yeah yeah we know those kind of lies. It's like there's no reason to lie, but they're still lying to you. Exactly. That was the thing. No wonder why you guys are breaking up all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:00 But he acts like he's so honest. Oh my God. Well, we could, you know, there might be other stuff that we talk about on this phone call. Okay, wait. So, all right, but this is going to get into, like this story about her blowing this other guy behind your back is going to get into the story about how you guys. sort of opened up your relationship to be like more on the freaky side, right? So you say I know you're blowing this guy
Starting point is 00:14:28 and she was and eventually do you admit to him that you were? Yeah, I think I did. You did? Yeah, but I think what made it open for us was his comment. He told me he always wanted to watch me or not always, but he wanted to watch me blow someone.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And I didn't. I guess react how he thought I would react. I'm like, oh, okay. Let's try it. Okay, and this was very early on while you were still blowing that other guy? Kathy. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:15:05 That's the area's kicking in. That's the a kid. She's fucking lying. All right. You know what? She can't talk. Who's going to talk on this podcast? Because I feel like I'm going to get two stories,
Starting point is 00:15:15 two different stories. No, no, no, no. You won't get two stories. Listen, this is the thing, Kathy. Okay. What it was was we started dating. I'm going to give it to you in the synopsis. We started dating.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And, you know, there will be times, you know, she would say, let's do this, or coming over, whatever, whatever. And I'd be like, okay, cool. She wouldn't show up and I would call her and she wouldn't ask her. And it wasn't necessarily a big deal, but because that was happening, I kind of knew what was going on. Because we all, you know, we all do the same thing. When we dating, you know how it is.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Totally. So then when I would ask her about it, she would always, make up the most ridiculous stories about being with aunties or the phone dad you know the typical yeah yeah yeah yeah there's always something going on right so I'm like I mean I know what's going on you ain't you know you got a lot of me we ain't even like that we ain't on that level yet so right you don't have to tell me these stories so years after we finally started dating seriously so you wait let me just okay so eventually there's those times okay so eventually there's those finally admitted to it.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Okay, but years go by. But before that, okay, in the beginning, she's like making up all these lies to you and everything, but nothing's really going on and you're like, what the fuck and you know so, but yet you continue to date her and then eventually you guys got serious. Did she stop like with the lying thing and you just assumed maybe like, that relationship like fell off?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Or was she still always sort of cheating on you this for all those years? Or was it cheating only in the beginning? It was probably, only in the beginning because her story stopped no the behavior changed right that's what I'm saying the behavior eventually changed right yes there was no need for any more
Starting point is 00:17:03 stories right and that's when you decided to get serious with her and then eventually after you guys were serious she did admit to oh like yeah I was totally blowing that guy we had you back and then you said oh I would love to see you blow someone right that was after the conversations
Starting point is 00:17:20 of you know how when you get into a relationship and you start asking questions about the past or fantasies and things like that. Totally, yeah. So that's when the stories finally started to come up. Okay, so when that's how this whole like you wanting to watch her give someone else a blowjob came up. You guys were just talking about like fantasies and stuff like sexually with each other, right? Correct. Correct.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Right. And when you said, oh, I'd love to see you instead of her saying, what the fuck or like, whatever. She was like, okay, let's do it. like because she was like really into giving head and she was into it as well more or less yes i would say that yes correct i mean that's what she just said she just said she didn't give you the typical reply she was like okay right um yeah something like that you know it wasn't like oh yeah cool it wasn't quite like that right it was more of um reluctant at first oh okay slightly accepting okay i might give it a try
Starting point is 00:18:25 right okay let's do it all right so it went from you know and this is probably over years you know so that explanation that she gives about how it happened it did not happen quite that way she was like she jumped she jumped from like okay like you know what I mean like it eventually became there eventually came a point in time where she said okay sure no problem but she just like jumped to that That's her stuff. And let me just tell you something. This is why I like doing my podcast. I'm like I like to grill people like Barbara Walters because a lot of people retell stories
Starting point is 00:19:04 the way she told that story. You know what I mean? And the problem with people, and it's not like she's lying. It's like sometimes people just remember things a certain way, very simplistic, right? But what happens when you tell those kind of stories to other people is you kind of do a disservice to other people because people think like, oh, it's supposed to happen that way. and like it didn't happen in my situation like it.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You know what I'm saying? And like in and so it's almost like lying, right? But she didn't really lie. People do that all the time. It's so common. But that's why I think it's really great on my show because I like to pick things apart and because I think sometimes when you ask a lot more questions
Starting point is 00:19:40 you get a much different story. You know that and you're on the same page that I am. So you just told me that whole real story without me even having to ask you all the questions. So it took a couple of years. That conversation took a little while. before she was like, okay, I'm going to let you watch me blow somebody, right? And that's eventually, I'm assuming, the first thing that you guys do to open up your relationship to other people.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Incorrect. Okay. When did that, when did the opening it up to other people happen before the blowjom? See, see, let me tell you. The weird thing about it is The one thing she did say is that She would always, she did like Suck my dick a lot
Starting point is 00:20:29 You know So You know, I would ask her questions like Like, you know, damn do you really like Get off on doing this? You know what? You know what? Let me let her tell you that part You know because I'm sure she can tell you more from a girl version of that. Yeah, and guys, Well, listen, you know, for guys right now to hear from a real live girl that just loves to have a dick in her mouth, that's every guy's fantasy.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So yeah, let her give her the mic right now. Okay, Sandra, what the hell are we calling you? Everyone has fake names, I forget. What are we calling you, Sandra? Robin. Oh, Robin. Oh, Robin. Okay, so you have a real thing about blowjubs, right?
Starting point is 00:21:17 like you love to do it. Yes. Okay. So you used to suck him off all the time and then he was like what the hell is going on here? And what did you explain to him? I can just remember I always wanted. I mean, I still do like to give head. And one time we were standing in his living room and he was just like, you can't really want to suck my dick that much.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And I'm like, yes, I can. I just enjoy sucking dick. Like I get pleasure out of a dick down my throat. Like it's a turn on for me. It's something that's fun. Like, and then I had to explain to him like if I'm really into it and enjoying myself, I can come on my own. You don't have to touch me.
Starting point is 00:22:04 You just have to let me have your dick down my throat. Like he was just like, no, you can't be serious. Wait a second. So you could get off. Let me just ask you this. Are you playing with yourself? and the dick is in your mouth or the dick is in your mouth and no one's touching your pussy at all
Starting point is 00:22:20 and you could literally have an orgasm just from the like the dick going down your throat like you said. Yes. Seriously? It doesn't happen all the time. Right, right. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:34 But it has happened and I don't know if it's my imagination. Listen, if that happened to me, I'd be blowing people like constantly too. I totally get it now. Yeah, because that's the thing. The first time it happened, I didn't believe it. And it's like, oh, I get this feeling from doing something that I like doing. Like, no guy has to force me to give him head.
Starting point is 00:22:59 See, Kathy, you need to go back to the beginning of that story. That's what you need to go back to. What, the beginning of her blowjubs, like fascination with blowjubs are getting off on blowjubs. I mean, like, I tried to before. I was very fascinated on why she was just sucking that. I just dig off so much. I don't know how we got off of that. Well, it was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I just, I don't know what made me start liking it. It was just something that I did. And when you say, because I want it down my throat, like, do you deep throat? Yes. Right. And so how did you, is that something that you learned or is it something that you could always just do? Do you have to be in a, I can't deep throat, right? I don't, I guess this is the weird part about it.
Starting point is 00:23:44 like um so i don't want to okay i would um i had kind of a sheltered childhood i always i did a specific art or whatever and to be rebellious or to like try and get away from or just to be a kid i would talk to different guys and oh let me give you head you know and it was fun like wait wait how old were you whether you were like talking to guys and and like getting and escaping through blow jobs like how old were you at this time high school 16 16 now did word get out was this a private secret thing that you were doing behind everyone's back and nobody knew or like was this really and were these like guys in your the neighborhood like from school or were they older guys or people that nobody knew like because i would think if it was
Starting point is 00:24:37 guys in your school word would get out and everyone was my guys in my school obviously right okay Who was it? It would just be different guys that I would meet. At the time, my best friend ended up going to a different high school. So, you know, they meet somebody and, oh, come with me. They got friends, keep them occupied or just being a kid or teenager or whatever you want to call it. And that's what I would do. So.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But how did you realize that you were, like, how, like, was that you, did you had already lost your virginity at that point? No, I started sucking dick before I lost my virginity. Okay. And so the first dick you sucked, who was that? Like, I feel like- I can't remember. Okay. But you just knew that you liked it.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And so, and like you said, your way to escape was just like just having dicks in your mouth. Like you would just meet a guy and be like, could I suck your dick? And you would do that all the time? Yeah. Like, it was just, like, I always tell him, like, I like the thought of getting caught, but not actually getting caught. Oh, that's it. interesting too what do you mean getting caught like like doing it in public like one time oh my god can we just make this an episode about you loving blow jobs like you could you could just get what's your name again
Starting point is 00:25:57 adam we don't even need you on this call okay like we need to do two separate podcasts okay like we could get into your guys swinging lifestyle but i just want a whole podcast about you and blow jobs because this is fascinating to me okay so you and you knew this very very good you and you knew this very early on too that you had this other aspect to it the whole getting caught thing did you ever get caught no not that i can think of but where in public would you like to do it like where like where you do it in public i'm assuming you tried to do it in public since it was something some sort of like a fantasy i have done it in public i've done it in a car several times um i've done it in a bar dance floors
Starting point is 00:26:47 like in the middle like everyone watching you like a tricky part of that the dance floor was really dark but we were right by the DJ booth uh huh right you kind of like the fact that like you're a little bit of an exhibitionist
Starting point is 00:27:03 like maybe people who are seeing you maybe they're not right right okay and so and when you were really young too like in high school did you do like naughty stuff like that as well like you know and is that when you were doing like in the car and stuff like that yeah because okay so the weird thing about me is people look in me and they're like oh you look so innocent you don't look like you do anything like and that just irritates me like
Starting point is 00:27:32 i have a whole other side to me that people never expect so and you wanted them to know that you really liked sex and that you weren't innocent is that i don't was that like your thing and is that why you were like you know maybe acting out sexually so much because you wanted to like get rid of that image or or not that i wanted to get rid of the image it's almost like it turned me on like oh okay you think i'm innocent well right because it's like it almost made it even better for you because it made it like sort of they made it taboo to you right because they're telling you you don't even like it but like when did you start deep throating I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's just Fun to see how far you can get it down your throat And so like when you were younger And you were giving all these blow jobs Like was there one guy that was like Let me just put it all the way And then once it went like past that threshold It went down your throat
Starting point is 00:28:30 You were like oh like I could totally handle this And then you were able to do it I mean I honestly can't tell you It's just something that I've always you could just always do it I always try I like to put it down my throat as far as possible like a joke or
Starting point is 00:28:49 thing between us is let me make you cry because it's so far down right and that and you like that you like to sort of be gagging on somebody's dick right like that's like a turn on to you okay and so guys must have loved you I mean were there a lot of guys that came back for those blow jobs
Starting point is 00:29:11 were like yeah yeah like did you ever like hook up with like your dad's friends or like older gentlemen okay so you weren't doing stuff like that no not anybody taboo most more right okay in my age demographic you know like maybe a few years older right and in public and i'm assuming you swallow and you just And then when did you have your first orgasm through giving a blowjob? Do you remember? I didn't have my first orgasm. I think I was like 17, 18. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:51 That's when you had your first orgasm through blowjobs. And who did you lose your virginity to? How old were you when you lost your virginity? Oh, my goodness. I was in the 11th grade. Mm-hmm. And did you like that as much as you like blow jobs? I mean, it was, nobody loves losing their virginity.
Starting point is 00:30:14 No, but I mean, do you like sex as much of blow jobs? Or if you had the choice and you just have to either fuck a guy or give him a blowjob, which would you choose? If it was only, you could only do one. If I could only do one, I'd probably do a blowjob. Yeah, interesting. Okay, so, all right, so that's the blowjop story. It's fascinating and you like to get caught and everything.
Starting point is 00:30:33 So now you guys eventually watch her give other people blowjobs, but you guys also, like you said a little while ago, you guys opened your relationship up to other people way before that. So when do you start getting freaky in your relationship? And how did it come about? Adam, you could talk now. All right, I guess I could tell you a real story now. Oh, my God, here we go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 We had this weird situation one night. Mm-hmm. I had something go down with an X. And so we decided we were just going to go to one of my friends' house and get drunk. And one of my other really good friends, a female, she had called me, came by. And at this time, she had this minivan, right? So we're sitting in the back of this, or the second row of this minivan. And just out of the blue, out of nowhere,
Starting point is 00:31:49 she like jumps up in her front seat and start like sucking her titty. You know what I mean? I never seen that before. I never, we never had no discussion or talks about this. She just did it. But this is why you're dating this girl? This is another girl? No, this is her.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Oh, this is her. Robin. Oh, Robin. So me and Robin seen in the back seat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she starts to suck your tit. Yeah. Yeah, so she jumps up and I'm like, what the fuck is happening?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah. Okay. Let's go back to my apartment. All right. So we end up back in my apartment. And, uh, but the reason why I'm confused is because she's your girlfriend, right? At this time, you guys been having a lot of sex and everything. So what?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Right. Right. So you're like, okay, let's go back to my apartment and like, let's do more than that. But you guys already been doing more than that. Okay. No, we haven't. We've only, me and her have only been having sex. This is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah, you just asked me about the beginning, right? The first freaky experience. Yes, okay. How are you confused? You asked me the first experience. No, no, no, the first freaky experience. I didn't realize it happened so early on in your relationship. Right, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But I mean when you opened it up to other people. This is the first time. This is what I'm telling you, Katz. Okay, cool. Go on. I'm sorry, this is hard for me to try and focus. You know. All right, so this happens.
Starting point is 00:33:10 We go back to my apartment. Yeah. and I think you know like I said we had we had already been drinking so it was a little fuzzy it was a little fuzzy for me wait but you can't leave out that this friend of his whose titties I started sucking okay this was somebody that I used to have sex so there was another person in the car no no no no listen this was a girl that I used to have sex with years ago years prior And over time, her and I became really good friends. You know, we weren't having sex anymore, me and this girl.
Starting point is 00:33:48 So on this particular day, she jumps in the front seat, start sucking this girl tees. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? So we go back to my apartment and, you know, to continue on. And at that point, for some reason, it's a little fuzzy because, like I said, we have been drinking. You know, by that time, I was like really almost. close to that blackout drunk stage. So, you know, I guess we had a threesome. But to me, what I remember, it was more like a twosome.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And I wasn't part of the two on this particular day. Right, right. They got it on, totally. And did you watch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I kind of sat back and watched a little bit. And, you know, it was cool, you know. Now let me ask you.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Wait, to be honest, I don't even, like, remember if I like, Fuck them both or I don't even know if I even came that day Right okay It was really fuzzy to me on this particular night Um But I remember sitting back watching a low 69 And some other stuff probably And uh that was the first night
Starting point is 00:34:58 That anybody else was introduced into our relationship Right now let me ask Was she always buy or was this her first experience? First experience Robin. Okay And so cool. So that was your first experience. And then, and so then you guys wake up and you're like, were you guys like,
Starting point is 00:35:19 holy shit, I can't believe that happened? Or were you guys like totally into what happened and like, let's do that again? I couldn't believe it happened, but I wasn't upset about it. Right, right. But you guys were into it and then you started to like do that kind of stuff eventually more? No, what was the next experience? Was it? I think the next time we did something, he was blackout drunk again and he'll say he don't remember.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I went to a bar with my friend and we were drinking. And he ended up meeting us there. He had a drink. We go back to our apartment and we're still drinking. And I don't remember exactly how, but my friend, was like oh can i suck his dick and i'm like yeah you're okay with that yeah so he's getting his dick because he's always wanted somebody to give him head and you know just play with other body part or play with his nipples or whatever so that's happening and i end up going and lay it down and
Starting point is 00:36:39 I don't know what happened between them, but he says he doesn't remember. I think that was the second time we introduced somebody into the relationship. Yeah, that was. The story with that one was, I don't drink vodka. And somehow, somewhere I met them at a martini bar and took a sip of a martini. And somebody swore to me there was no vodka in there. so the next thing I know I'm like blackout drunk so the whole night for me
Starting point is 00:37:16 was like that it was like a dream that's really fuzzy and I can't really remember it yeah I know that right you know what I mean so like for me it almost didn't even happen yeah that sucks because she allowed you to be like hook up with another girl
Starting point is 00:37:36 I guess to a degree you know what I said I don't necessarily know what happened as far as I know the story that I heard okay so when did it become something that you guys like really sort of became like swingers then I would say
Starting point is 00:37:54 probably about four or five years into the relationship after a couple of these kinds of experiences where you're like doing this one actually before that before that see because we never knew how or what to do to go into these experiences.
Starting point is 00:38:15 So those two experiences literally just happen spontaneously. Right. Absolutely 100% spontaneous. So once we decided, I, you know, let's try some different, you know, we've done, you know, whatever with girls, you know, I was like, all right, let's, you know, I know, I know, I know you like to suck dick. So I'm going to watch you, you know, get somebody hit. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:42 So in my mind, I'm thinking this will be the easiest shit to pull off, right? This would be like easiest cracking open the beer, right? Mm-hmm. Because every dude wants a blowjob, right? Every dude want to get his dick sucked. Yeah. Every guy somewhere is begging for some girl to suck the dick. That's why I want to do a whole podcast with your girl, just talking about it.
Starting point is 00:39:05 You are absolutely wrong. I don't know if it's different because the whole couple dynamic. But for us as a couple Yeah This has actually been harder Than finding another girl I believe To finding a guy that will just let him Get his dad
Starting point is 00:39:22 Where have you been advertising Ain't that crazy We've been on Like one website We found one guy And that was like the only experience that we've had You know one dude We met
Starting point is 00:39:35 You know We exchanged a couple of emails Text messages and stuff We hung out a couple times And then one time we went to his house, you know, and it kind of went down. It happened. We sat over his house, you know, we said drinks and beers, had a couple of shots. You know, it's just to lubricate, loosen up.
Starting point is 00:39:56 No, was he black or was he white? He was black. Okay, cool. Probably a few years older than me. Mm-hmm. And, you know, we're sitting in his basement, having a shot. and I believe how it started was he asked to suck her titty or something
Starting point is 00:40:19 and she said okay and he proceeds to unbutton her shirt you know what I'm saying? Start sucking on her tities and stuff and that went on for a few minutes and she went down dropped to a knee and unbuckled his pants and started blowing them.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So this is the first time for me, at least. I am seeing this. This is the first time for me, which was kind of weird at first was to actually be in the same room with a man with his dick out and erect. Right. That kind of weirded me out at first. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:59 I've been in, you know, like locker rooms, you know, show and stuff. But like to see a fucking dude with an erect dick was kind of weird at first. Right. Because I'm not by it all. I'm saying, Rihanna's kind of looking like, fuck women attracted to this shit? Like what the fuck? Right.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Terrible. But I'm like, I'm like, all right, cool. So she goes to work. She's doing her thing. And like I said, I wanted to see this so I was really excited. I was kind of turned on. And so she kind of goes back and forth from both of us. I started, you know, we moved over to a couch.
Starting point is 00:41:45 She's on her knees, blowing this guy, and I'm fucking her from the back, you know? And like, I'm like, damn, I can't believe this happening. So I'm all overly excited, and I blow my wide kind of fast. And then, like, fuck, and I get hard again real quick. I'm still excited. And, you know, we go through this experience, and it was, it was. great you know so we leave you know clean up we leave in and I'm like all right let me see how she's feeling about this you know I'm like you know how you feel you know you're all right cool you
Starting point is 00:42:22 good she's like yeah I'm right you know I'm like did you like it was it okay she's like yeah it was okay and then that yeah it was okay turns into later on a month later like yeah I liked it two months later it was like oh yeah I really liked it Oh yeah, that shit was fun as hell. I can't wait to do it again. You know what I'm saying? That's how it always happens. You know, it's never right away.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It always has to evolve into some shit, you know. Well, I think it's different for all people when they sort of open that can of work. Sometimes I think it just happens again and again because people really like it. That's how I felt like, like, you're telling me that you like this, but I don't know how you're really going to react. So. You didn't. know how he would react. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:13 You were nervous that he'd be freaked out and be like, oh, you're a whore. Even though he likes it, but be like freaked out about it, right? Right. Totally. I get that. I think a lot of women get afraid about that kind of stuff, you know, and hold back a little bit. I think that that's most women's fear. And that's why women hold back a lot with their sexuality.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Yeah, it just took time. Like, you're saying you're comfortable with this. this is what you want to do, but I mean, people tell you one thing all the time and then react a totally different way, so totally. He could say he likes it when his dick is hard, but, you know, he could be really jealous. I mean, listen, it causes problems a lot of times. A lot of times people do say that they're okay with it, but then they're not, you know, and so yeah, that's a very normal thing to happen. So you waited a little while before you really were like, yeah, I really like this because you were just making sure that he was going to be really okay with it, right?
Starting point is 00:44:13 Right. Yeah, that's cool. And then once you realize that this is something that is okay and it's not going to shake up your relationship, you're like, let's do it again. Like, I really like that because you were obviously, I guess, really into it. Mm-hmm. Right? Because you have this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:44:29 First of all, you love giving blowjobs, right? You like, you always have had this thing where you like to do it kind of in public. you kind of like to get caught. So that kind of scenario to have him watching you and everything is like so up your alley, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I can imagine, right? So you guys go out now looking for guys for you to give blow jobs. And for some reason you guys can't find a lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Kathy, don't that sound like the craziest thing that somebody can say to you? No, not really because I think like you said, the whole couple thing, does make it a very listen if your girl went on to on craigslist okay i'm telling you straight up if she went on to craigslist and put an ad solo from a woman for man right like i am a girl looking to blow guys right i just love to deep throat i love i love do it in your car we could do it you know and you could be hiding in the closet but they don't know that you're there like i'm sure she would have no problem finding guys interested in her sucking their dick. I think when you add the other guy there, like, look, you said you had a problem at first.
Starting point is 00:45:47 You were like, what the fuck? Like, seeing another guy's dick in the room with you hard. Like, it was a little freaky for you, right? And so I think that just adds a whole other element that you knock out a lot of people. You know, that maybe wouldn't do that. That's kind of the reason that we went, you know, we tried to swing her out. you know, to see the type of response because, I mean, on a, you know, like swinger sites would be the ideal place for somebody who would be okay with that, right?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, but what swinger sites did you go to? Because I've had a lot of swingers on it. They have told me the people that don't live in like the main cities and, you know, the United States, like New York or something, they have had trouble finding people that they want to swing with and stuff. And they're white people. So I don't know that it's necessarily a black thing Because I think you did say that you're not like in New York City
Starting point is 00:46:41 You're like maybe you don't have to say where you're from But it's not yeah You're not like in a place where there's like a large community of like a try You know so it is I have heard that it is hard to meet the right people For other people as well like I said And it's not just from black people from white people Okay That makes me feel a little better cat
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah yeah it's not an easy thing thing when you're like in the middle of like the Midwest yeah that's so weird like I honestly thought that um you know like I said because we had had a few experiences with women I said okay we can knock the easy thing out easy right right and that's been harder than anything like I just couldn't believe like I'm like damn it's like I know that there got to be like a million dudes that I see every day who would be dying to get their dick set back some yeah but you have to be hiding in a closet and they have to not know that you're there
Starting point is 00:47:44 like you have to like like and I'm not saying you should you should set that up see that's the that's the other thing that's the other thing Kathy that's not even the case but check this out I'm gonna tell you this story the uh the guy that we had the experience with right so one day we're out and he calls me. And I'm like, all right, I'm going to come back. So we get there.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Mind you, right. We get to this dude's door. This dude, this fucking dude answers the door. This is after you've already had your first experience, right? Yes, yes, yes. Okay. This is well after, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:26 We get to his house and this dude answers the door, new born out the womb baby naked. He answers the door like that. I'm like, what the fuck, right? Like, no. Okay. I'm like, all right. I've actually seen this dude naked.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So I'm not completely. 100% freaked out, but I'm still kind of freaked out, right? So we walk in this dude's house and we get to his kitchen like right before we get to the, because you had to go through the kitchen and get to the basement. And it's really. like happy perky boostier titties out
Starting point is 00:49:11 white girl walks up the stairs oh hey how you doing I'm like what the fuck she goes in the refrigerator get a beer or something I don't know and we walk downstairs right we go in the basement so it's all four of us walking in the basement
Starting point is 00:49:27 we get in the basement and it's like seven black dudes down there and they're watching these fucking pornoes and they're literally gangbanging this white girl. I had never seen no shit like this before my life. Oh, that I mean, I think I had that whole story on my podcast. I've had a white girl that big, did a whole gangbank with black eyes.
Starting point is 00:49:51 So that shit goes down, right? Right, yes. I've heard, listen, and it's crazy because I've listened to your podcast. And I've heard people talk about these situations, But I personally have never been around it, never seen it, never been in those situations. So he called you though to join in on the gang bang because he called you, right? I don't know. I don't know if he thought that I was about myself or something.
Starting point is 00:50:17 But in my mind, I'm thinking that he wouldn't have called me if he didn't think she was with me because I'm thinking that's what he will want. But you walked in the house with her, right? And he let you in. Correct. And then they brought you down to. But like I said, when he answered the door, he was new. born baby naked. Right. Okay. So you guys go down and there's this girl's getting fucked by like a bunch of black guys and what do you guys do? Uh, we left. It was just too much to take
Starting point is 00:50:42 in at that day. Like can you imagine going over a friend's house? Like you expect a like drink a cup of coffee or something and then you go walk into that. Okay, but it's not that far. Like listen, a cup of coffee and a gang bang are very far away from each other. A blowjob and a gang bang isn't as far away. from each other. Like the situation, I get, listen, I get that it was like, you're first of all, you're expecting just him by himself and you guys as a couple to be going and doing the same thing that you did before.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And then you get there and there's a woman there and a bunch of other guys. And that changes the whole situation. It's not what you guys sign up for. So I get why you got, you were, you left, you know. I'm just saying, I mean, it is kind of interesting. You know, that was a little, well. Did you say to him like, what the fuck do you? What did he say what he wanted you guys to do?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Or like what did he call you for? No, no, no, no, no. He didn't at the time. Like I said, we just went down because. Who's not asking questions? Okay, I'm sorry. Like, you get there. He's fucking naked.
Starting point is 00:51:51 You walk in. There's a girl. You go downstairs. She's getting fucked by a bunch of black guys. And then does he say, yeah, come join the party. Like, I wanted you. Like, what does he say to you? Not in so many words.
Starting point is 00:52:03 He's probably expecting us to. expecting you to what? Gang bang is a very specific thing. Let me tell you. A gang bang is a gang bang. They don't want other girls there getting. It is. What did they want you there for?
Starting point is 00:52:19 He didn't never say. We just went in the basement. He didn't say that, yeah, look, we got a bunch of dudes down here in gang bang and this girl. He didn't say that. So when we get down there, it's like five dudes down there plus him. and this girl who, you know, who came upstairs. See, like I said, at the time when we walked in, I just knew it was him there.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So then when we walked in the kitchen, this girl comes up. I know, I know the whole scenario. I know. I'm just saying, what's the point? Right. See, I don't know. I don't know why he called me at that time. Well, you should have asked him.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Did you ever text him afterwards and say, what the fuck? I didn't. I never called me over to that, to that fucking gig, but my girl wanted to blow you. Like, what the fuck? Why did you waste our time? He did text me and I told him at the time that all of that was a little overwhelming. And what did he say?
Starting point is 00:53:11 She wanted to leave. And he apologized. He said, you know, I didn't know she was with you. So he wanted you to fuck this girl. Basically, he invited you over to game. I don't know, but I'm assuming that that's probably may have been the case because I don't know if I called him or he called us, but he told me to come over. but with our prior experiences, I kind of figured, you know what I mean? Like, kind of was understood.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Don't need to be spoken. But I guess so in this situation. Well, I don't know. It all sounds so weird to me. It doesn't make sense to me. The whole thing doesn't really make sense. It doesn't sound like people are really communicating. It's not really proper.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And this is when things go, these are when things don't really work out. when there isn't like really good communication going on. You know what I mean? In that situation, I don't understand, you know, so maybe he wanted you to go over and have a gang bang or whatever. You know,
Starting point is 00:54:11 you get there, your girl is there, like she could have blown eight guys maybe. I don't know. The whole thing doesn't sound reason, doesn't even sound right, because why would he call you? You know,
Starting point is 00:54:24 I have like a million questions, but because he's not here and you didn't ask any questions. I can't get the answers. See, the only thing that I can think of is that he didn't know the extent of our relationship or how far she'd go. You know, and at that time, it was only two things that would happen. Either she would say no or, you know, be completely, you know, opposite of the situation. But what he didn't ask you to do anything. I mean, I don't need to.
Starting point is 00:54:49 This is the thing. No, no, no. But he invited you over. Listen, Kathy. No, no, no. You have to listen. Because your story doesn't make sense. No, I know, Kathy.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Listen, this is what I'm saying. For me, if for him in his mind, he probably thought that if she's down with it, then she's going to be down with the gang bang. Whatever. No, you just said you thought he was calling you because he said the next day. No, you said the next day when you texted him. He said, I thought you were by yourself. That's what you said to you. So he didn't want her to be involved?
Starting point is 00:55:23 Yes, that's probably what he said later on. but at the time when he asked the door. I'm not reading people's minds on this podcast. Okay. Yeah, you don't have to read. You told me that that's what he said. Yes,
Starting point is 00:55:37 that's what he said. Right, not probably. That's what he said. Right. Yes, that's after the fact. Okay, listen, listen, we're at 50 minutes. My podcasts are only an hour. We have no time to argue fucking semantics.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I don't care about this one little story. It's boring because it didn't go anywhere and it doesn't make sense. So let's move on from this little fucking weirdo scenario that doesn't make sense and is not good, okay? Because there's no resolution here, okay? Let's move on because we have 10 minutes, okay? It gets to some good stuff. So that doesn't work out, right?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Okay, that guy doesn't work out. And for some reason, you guys, because you guys told me that this happened like five years into your relationship, you've been dating for 12 years. So I could do the math that there's been like a lot of years that you guys have been like swinging, trying different things out and everything, right? Like what where do you stand now? Like what has been the deep like you know what has gone down since that guy you've never met another person to swing with only women like have you had other guys? Um see that is the weird part like I was telling you Kathy
Starting point is 00:56:42 When we first decided to open this up I thought that that would be the easiest part I know so you haven't in seven years You haven't been able to fight anybody Yeah that's crazy now look you're gonna get a whole bunch of email from guys. all over the world. Talking about, yeah, please give them my email. Watch. And it just, no, I don't think that that's true.
Starting point is 00:57:05 No, I don't think that's true. Like I told you, first of all, people have to live where you live. Like, there's a lot of things that go into just, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:12 people being involved with another couple. You know, I really think that she loves giving blow jobs. And, you know, let me ask you this. Would she, is she allowed to just go give blow jobs without you? Or do you have to be?
Starting point is 00:57:26 be there. I'm allowed to give them without them. Okay, so you know what? If I were you, Robin, just post some ad on Craigslist. Say that this is how you guys should play. I'm going to give you last 10 minutes. I'm just going to give you guys some advice so you guys could get more good stories that have actual real things that have happened. Okay. This is what he, and then you can call back into my show for part two. You, Robin, should start off just putting an ad out with pictures of yourself saying I'm a real girl that I love giving head ever since I'm really young it's just like an obsession of mine I have my boyfriends you know uh what is that called my boyfriend like is letting me give other people head I think guys like to like fuck other girls that are with guys you know say like
Starting point is 00:58:14 my boyfriend allows me to give other guys head and that's what I'm looking for right so you establish some guys on your own go out and blow a ton of guys you will get people okay like you will not have a problem finding guys to come over wherever you are and get blowjubs from you. And then when you get a couple guys that you're blowing and considering that you love it so much, that you have orgasms, that you deep throat, that you swallow, that you're so fucking horny for dick in your mouth. Like your guys are going to come back for more, okay? And once you develop relationships with these guys that come back for more, like maybe you say like, hey, you know, I'd really like, would you be into like letting my boyfriend watch?
Starting point is 00:58:57 And I'm sure in that group of guys that come over and get blowjobs from you, like somebody will be into that whole thing. But you have to find a guy then that wants another guy to watch him. And that's a whole other thing. But what you have to first do is get a bunch of guys that want blow jobs. And I think that you'd be better off getting guys that just want blow jobs if your girl goes out alone and gets them. And then tries to talk one of those guys into,
Starting point is 00:59:24 or a couple of those guys into letting you come along and watch. And I think that's probably your best way since you've not been able to do it since as a couple. Even trying swinging and you think the whole black thing. Like, I think you're completely wrong. Well, no, I totally agree with you that I should just blow guys. And I don't have a problem doing that. But then what comes into play is they want more and I don't want to do that. So then I find myself in a position where it's like, oh, please.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I mean, like, you're not on a date with a guy, okay? If you post an ad on Craigslist, you say, like, I just like to suck cock. That's it. That's all that people are signing up for. That's how it has to be. This is not like you're having, you know, you're meeting a guy in a bar and you're saying, and then you're making out with him and then he touched your tits and then you're blowing him and then he's fingering you.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Then he wants to fuck you. Like, it's not that kind of situation. That's like, of course, a guy is going to want more in this situation. If you go out on Craigslist or go into a situation where you're just like, I just have this fetish, call it a fetish. It's not a hookup. There's no making out. There's no nothing else except a blowjob like and you set it up like that.
Starting point is 01:00:37 No guy's going to want more. I think people in those situations, they'll come in and they'll get their blowjob and they'll fucking leave. That's the way it will happen. I've never heard. I've heard a lot of people come on my show with a lot of different types of fetish. And it's never been like, oh, I try to do this and then they wanted more. Like most people, if you're giving them something for free, they'll take that. If that's all that, you know, you're advertising and that's what they signed up for.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I think you should be fine. Okay. For real. I don't, I mean, if other guys are asking for more than a blowjob, it's probably because it's like a different kind of situation. Maybe, you know, it's like a regular guy and now you got him worked out and he got a blowjob and now he wants to fuck you. Like, that's a regular guy would want that situation.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Yes. but a guy that's asking during an ad on Craigslist for free blowjobs might be getting fucked by his wife or he has different situations. You know, and maybe he just has a fetish for blowjobs and he'll be fine with a blowjob. You'll be fine. That's the way you got to do it. Okay. You guys have been swinging for 12 years.
Starting point is 01:01:39 You've been a couple for 12 years. You guys have been open to having sex with different people since day one in your relationship. But yet you guys haven't really been able to hook up. up with anyone except that one guy and those girls, right? There hasn't been anybody else? Right. Yeah. So you guys are a little ineffective.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Okay? Not a little. A lot. Very ineffective. I think you should listen to more of my episodes because there's people out there that are doing all kinds of crazy things and there are it is able to do it. It has nothing to do with you guys being black. Okay. I think so, Kathy. No. Are you ugly? Just a little bit. How ugly are you guys?
Starting point is 01:02:22 Are you guys? No. I've listened, listen. I've listened to every episode. Okay. How many black couples have you had on here? How many black people, period? Plenty.
Starting point is 01:02:31 They don't say that they're black, but I can tell. No. I remember, listen, I remember one girl, she was like mixed, you know what I'm saying? Like, Milotto-ish, you know. No, I've had a couple black girls on my show. Like two of the girls that have called into my show. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You did.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Had a one girl had a sugar daddy. Yeah. Please, I had a guy. Really all he wanted to do is go down on girls. He was black. I've had plenty of black eyes. And I've had a couple of my girls. I don't have many girls on my show, but I would say like half of the girls that have called into my show were black.
Starting point is 01:03:03 So. Have no way. Yes. Yes. Like three of them. I've only had a couple on my show. The girl, one girl that won two girls that were escorts and another girl that was really into sex. Those are three black girls.
Starting point is 01:03:17 So it has nothing to do with big black. I think it has to do. Maybe not. In the midway, let me ask you this. Where you live, is it like predominantly white? And you guys are the only black people? Or like, what's the deal? And let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Are you willing to fuck, like, or suck black guys and white guys? Are you guys open to having white people too? Or like, are you like, you are right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think. I think, listen, you know, people might be like on the surface, like, great. I don't know, like they act like they don't like black people or they don't like fat people or they don't like skinny people or they don't like tall people and like let me just tell you
Starting point is 01:03:51 most people like to fuck all kinds of people okay people just put that shit on okay but when it comes down to it if some girl is offering free blowjobs deep throat blowjobs from a girl that really loves it they'll you'll have a lot of people lining up for that okay you're not going to have a lot of people like oh she's black I'm not into it I don't think so I don't think that it has anything to do with it but I think that there are problems when you're swinging and this is for people across the board when you're swinging, when you're open in the lifestyle to find the right people to hook up with. I have heard that many times from white couples. Okay. So that's very, so it's not like I have had white couples on that were swingers and they're open to other
Starting point is 01:04:35 things and they're doing great. I've had plenty of white guys on my show that are looking for women to fuck and into fetishes and they're just not finding what they want. I just think it's sometimes it's hard to find the right situation. But I I think for you guys, what you guys are looking for, if you guys are looking for guys to get blow jobs, if that's like your thing as a couple, that's what you want to do, right? Is that what you're looking when you're swingers?
Starting point is 01:04:59 Like, what else are you looking to do with couples or other people? I mean, you've got the girl thing down, right? You know, we kind of open to everything in a sense. Yes. Like I said, I always figured that, you know, at the very least or the easiest thing to do, would be that. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 01:05:19 like I said, yeah, but I think that like I said, let her go blow people then like see if you could then turn the people that are getting blow jobs from her into just getting,
Starting point is 01:05:29 you know, having you watch, you know. That's what I'm saying, you know, it's funny that it's so weird that a girl who says that, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:38 she used to blow guys and different people all the time, now says that she can't find anybody to blow. Well, it seems, weird right uh no she's trying she's not she doesn't is she having a problem blowing people behind your back probably not is she having problem finding just a random guy that she could blow probably not
Starting point is 01:05:59 is she's having a problem finding guys to blow with you in the room okay that's a totally different story and i don't know how you guys are putting it out there that you're looking for people to blow i don't know you know excuse me robin like have you walked up to any guys recently like you used to when you were little and said like hey can I suck your dick and they said no probably not no I haven't and that's another thing I keep explaining to him like I'm not in that young carefree age anymore I don't do the things that I used to do then to even put me in a situation to be around those people to do that right you're going to have to do a whole ad it's going to have to be an ad it's going to have to be like a thing you know what I mean you're not just going to be walking up to random strangers
Starting point is 01:06:39 it's a different situation right it can be dangerous when you're young and you're hitting up 15 year old kids and you're you know blowing them in the woods it's a one thing but when you're hitting up 50 year old guys and you're a little bit like you know you could get fucking mugged or raped or killed like you don't know right it's a totally different scenario so you know if you're looking for that exact thing you might have to go create a couple relationships with guys on the side that you feel safe with that you could start to blow and then after you blow them a couple times on your own and you get to know them you could be like hey my boyfriend would like to join in. Would you be into that? And I bet you anything, you could get a guy to get into that as well.
Starting point is 01:07:21 But I think the best way to do it is for you to get guys separately. And you'd probably have to do an ad on Craigslist. And I really believe if you put an ad on Craigslist as a real girl looking for guys, you will have no problem finding men. It's the opposite. Men don't find women on Craigslist. But women can find guys on Craigslist. us. Okay. Okay. So please you guys, okay, because this is like a little confusing podcast, but I would love to hear you guys like score and have some real like good stories where you're not Adam's not fucking blacked out drunk. I can't remember what happened. Where you're not 15 anymore, right? And you're really like, and you guys are like living
Starting point is 01:08:11 what you guys really want to do, which is like be full on swingers or like, you know, open your release ship up and do some kinky things with different people. But you're not there yet, but like you need to, but I'd love to hear what happens. So go try it out and let me know what happens.
Starting point is 01:08:31 All right. Yeah, we would love to come back and do a podcast with you again, Kathy. Yeah. And by the way, by the way, to beat you to the punch. Yeah. I'm going to say I'm a 6.7.
Starting point is 01:08:41 75 on looks. A six. Okay, what is Robin? I'm going to say she's a 7.5. Okay, I mean, I did ask you before, like, are you ugly? Like, what the hell? What about your bodies? Are they good?
Starting point is 01:08:58 No. I used to be a super gym rat, but not so much. Do you have a big dick? She says yes. Okay. And what about you, Robin? Do you have, like, a good body? right? Yeah, very, very, you know, she's plump in the right places.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Right, she's got tits in an ass. Guys like it. Okay, cool. Listen, she swallows. She loves blowjubs. She likes to put them all the way down the back of her throat. I think you'll be fine. She's fine. She's good. She's a 7.5, but with all those other stats, she's like a 10. She's a 10 when that guy's dick is in her mouth. Right, right, right, all the way down. Too. Yes, it's a rat. Exactly. She goes up a notch, so it's all good. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:51 So this is what we can do. The first time we have an experience after this conversation. Yes, you call me up. We talk about it. Yes, but remember, I ask a lot of questions. So it better be a good story. But no, you need to ask a lot of questions. Okay, if you ever show up at a gang bang again, first of all,
Starting point is 01:10:10 bring the popcorn sit down, pull up a chair and like watch, okay? And then come on my show and tell me what happened. You guys left and then you never got
Starting point is 01:10:20 any kind of like information. You just is a very bad investigator. Okay. I don't know what the fuck. Who walks into that situation and leaves? A dude with a dick heart ain't really a good situation. Please, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I would have pulled up a chair and be like, I mean, you're there anyway, okay? But listen, just be more effective next time. even if the play even if the scenario goes awry you know get the facts you didn't have some of the important facts in this call okay so make sure you get the important detail okay cool all right thanks you guys this is a kind of interesting podcast thank you went all over the place um all right
Starting point is 01:10:59 we'll talk again soon thanks you guys all right okay i just want to tell you before you go that my book it's called strictly anonymous confession secret sex lives of total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story.
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