Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 196 - Jay's Wife has Multiple Lovers and he Digs It

Episode Date: September 18, 2017

Jay's wife has multiple lovers and he's not only knows about it, he likes it. When did his wife start looking up with other guys? Does Jay join in or just watch? Is he what they call a cuckold? Does he hook up with other people too? Tune in to find out plus hear all about their experience with swinging and why it's not for them, the threesomes Jay took part in when he was in 5th grade and a whole lot more. And for more of his hot wife/cuckold stories you can check out his blog cuckold-husband-bdenied.blogspot.com   **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And Jay has been having, I mean, the first thing we discussed, which is really interesting to me is Jay was like having threesomes in fifth grade, like for real. Like Jay happened to hook up and know. like the sluttiest girl in town. And so he was like doing all these like kind of three sons. And basically I think like set him up for the rest of his life to kind of be a guy that was like into seeing girls to fuck other guys.

And that's basically what he does now with his wife. I don't know so much that he's like needs to actually see it. But he is totally cool with the fact that his wife has multiple lovers. And we talk all about that. We talk about how that came to be. that works out. We talk about all the threesomes that he sort of engaged in in fifth grade. We talk about some swinger stories that were like really bad. Him and his wife tried swinging, which is a different sort of a thing. And that didn't really go

really well. So we talk about, he tells those stories, which I always love. Like I always say that I love a swinger's gone awry story. And he's got a couple of those. And that's the deal. So sit back, relax. I'll be right back on with Jay. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name.

And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Hey, Jay, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast. You're on with Kathy. How are you doing today? I'm doing well, thank you. So, Jay, you're somebody that is friends or, like, I don't know, you found, like, I had a guy on recently, right, who has a blog, right, about swinging. And you sort of found his blog and became friends with him. And then he was on my podcast and he told you to contact me and be in mine.

And you have a blog of your own as well, right? That's, like, what you and that guy had in common, right? That's correct. I have. And why don't you give a shout out to your blog right now, and then I'll explain, because I looked at your blog right before we got on the call because I just wanted to just check it out. And like there's a lot of stuff on there that I'm going to explain, but like what is your blog? My blog is about a relationship I have with my wife. The blog address is cuckold-husband-b-dunyed.bdeny.com, which is a whole lot of stuff. But I actually did it that way, so it wouldn't be that discoverable by just anybody doing a search.

But I wanted people to actually get an idea of what it's really like to be in a relationship where a husband has a wife that has other lovers and get away from the fantasy of the Internet world, which I found was a lot of pornography and obscenity and just wasn't realistic. Really? So you found that, like, was this before you got in, or you've always sort of been in this kind of lifestyle with your wife, right? You've been with it for 23 years, right? And from, like, did this start, like, really earlier in your relationship or how many years into your relationship did her having other lovers start? Well, we started talking about it early on, but it was a slow process. I think we was about close to 10 years. I don't hold me to the exact amount. Right, right, but about, uh-huh. But about that. And it was a lot of talk, a lot of fantasy, a lot of talk, and a lot of fantasy. And I saw an openness there, and eventually a situation arose where she decided to take it one step further. And actually do it, right, and make it not a fantasy, make it a reality.

That's correct. I had never had, I'm probably one of the few guys in the world that never had a fantasy about two girls in one. guy, although I wouldn't be opposed to that, you know, as most guys do. But my fantasies of two guys and a girl go back probably to my childhood. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. When I was growing up, I had a friend, and there was a little girl in the neighborhood. We were all between 10 and 13 years of age. And the first time I ever saw another man have sex with a woman or a boy have sex with a girl, I was probably somewhere between 10 and 12 years old. You're kidding. Like you were with these friends? Yes, yes. We used to like real sex or just like kind of fooling around. No, I mean like real

sex. Yeah. Oh my God. Can you just tell me that story real quick? That's kind of interesting. I mean, what great are you in 10 and 12? I forget. Like what great? are you guys in at that point? Between, I think, third and fourth, something like that, fourth and fifth. Okay, so how do you even know that it's real sex? Okay, but so wait, so you're in third or fourth grade, you're hanging out with another guy, a little boy and another little girl, and what happens? Well, I used to be into all things Army, and I had an Army tent.

It was called a staff tent. This, by the way, is not on the blog. Yeah. So we used to set the tent up in the backyard. my buddy and I, and this girl that was, she lived a couple of doors down, and she was rather precocious and sexually adventurous. How old was she? Was she in your same grade or a little older?

Yeah, she was like either a year older or the same age. I don't recall exactly. It was so long ago. And I don't remember exactly, was it 10, was it 12, was at 13, somewhere in that age group. But we would go into the back. There was a game show on TV back then called Truth or Consequences. And so we would play our own version of truth or consequences, you know. And if you got the question wrong, you had, you got some kind of a consequence.

And I think the real goal of the game was to get the question wrong so you can get the consequence. Right. And what were the consequences? We're always like sort of naughty. Yeah, they were. Like you have to take your clothes off. You have to take your shirt off. You have to put his penis in your mouth.

Oh, my God. So you guys were hardcore experiment. at these little parts. Oh, yeah, yeah. So one time I lost the game and I was supposed to have intercourse with her. And back then, you know, girls didn't shave their pussies. And I really hadn't seen that many. So I had no idea where to put the damn thing. And it was really unsuccessful. I totally get that. That's so. I think I wanted to get a blowjob out of it. And we used to go to there. There was a Cypress swamp not too far from where I lived. And we'd go down there and play, I'll show you yours if you'll show me mine. And I just thought that was.

was something all kids did back then. You know, I guess... I think a lot of... Some kids do... I mean, listen, the difference between a 13-year-old and a 10-year-old, I think, is huge. Because if you really think about grades, right? And I know you don't remember, right?

But, like, when you're in fourth or fifth grade, you're kind of like, you know, still, like, young little kids, and then I remember 6th, 7th grade. Like, that's when you start making out with guys at parties and stuff. And it really sort of drastically changes at that point. I feel like, I don't know, you know, as far as, like, how you feel about sex and your hormones and stuff, right?

Absolutely. I have one vivid recollection of being in sixth grade, and this girl opened her purse and showed me some condoms. And she said, do you know what those are for? And I said, yeah. And she said, do you want to use them after school? And I said, yeah, I got to play baseball. Oh, my God, where did you grow up?

It sounds like there's a lot of slutty young girls in your town. I grew up in the South. Oh, okay. Oh, my God. because like when you were when you said like you know because you you told me another story where the girl like you tried to fuck her but you couldn't find the hole because she was so hairy like that was another situation was it always with the same girl or were always like different girls coming in it always with this that's correct it was always with that same girl and after after she moved out then I mean there may have been some girls in the neighborhood where you know we play spend the bottle in silly games like that, but there was a long dry spell between then and by the time I

actually found the hole. For real. But wait, but she fucked the other guy. Like, how did that happen? I want to just hear that. So you guys were being playing this game, truth or consequences. One time you had to have sex with her, but you couldn't figure it out and you got a blow job. And then how did he actually find the hole? Like, he actually

found the hole and had sex with her and you were there watching? Like, what happened in that situation? Yes. He was more sexually aware than I was. And, you know, looking back at it over the course of the years, his father was a very mean

alcoholic, and the girl had a very mean father also. And I have to wonder if they weren't sexually abused by adults at the time. Of course. Yeah. That's what I was going to say about the poor girl when you said it was always the same girl. My first thing was like she was totally molested.

It's so sad. It's very common unfortunately. It is. And that's what I learned out of taking courses of psychology in college. Yeah, one in four. One in four women. So it's very common. I mean,

that's why a lot of girls are so slutty, you know, because that's how you sort of act out when something like that happens to you. You know what I mean? It's almost like you feel like at a weird way, it's like the girl's trying to take back her sexuality, but she acts out, you know?

So anyway, so he screwed the girl in front of you and you watched? Oh, absolutely, yes. Was that on one occasion or more than one occasion? Oh, on more than one occasion. I can't tell you how many, but it was definitely more than one occasion. Oh, okay. So that, of course, that's why this has become like your thing,

because, like, you were just set up to be wired that way because, like, all of your first sexual experiences took place in a threesome with this one girl and another guy, right? That's absolutely true. That's what I've finally come to realize. that's where it comes from and I'm glad it happened. Right, because you're having a lot of fucking fun now. And so is your wife, right?

Because she wasn't in that tent, but she was developing her own sort of sexual preferences when she was young. And it turns out that she, you know, was into this lifestyle as well. And she's into taking like lovers on the side and you're like what you would call a cuckolding husband, right? Do you like, does that mean like you want some guy to comment her? And then does that mean that you like, you. like, do you know, take care of that afterwards?

Like you go down on her afterwards and you like that come sort of thing. Or it's just that you want her to get fucked and have the come in there because there are a lot of pictures of that on your blog. I just like went through and I'm just like, oh, people are going to really love this story because you're going to get the whole story about this guy, right? And I'm talking about you, about Jay. And then you could go to his blog and I'm going to put the actual blog in my in my written description because I think it's very hard for people to get because you made it a hard

address. But you could go to this site and see actual pictures of his wife's pussy. I mean, there's no face shots, which I think is good, right? But like you can really see the stuff that you're going to be talking about, right, with the stories. But there's like full on pictures. So it is, like you say, very different than that generic porn that's out there that sort of paints a different kind of picture of the situation. You're really living a cuckolding lifestyle. So that's why I want to know, like in a cuckolding thing after a guy jizzes inside your wife, Do you go down on her? Is that a part of it or are you just like to see it there?

That has not happened. Okay. I'm not saying that I wouldn't if the opportunity came up. She's never asked me to. But that's not a part of it for you. It's more just. No, and I'm usually not, nine out of ten times, I'm usually not even there. Really?

So the hotness for you is just knowing it. And then when you have sex with her later, like you use that thought or the knowledge of it to, like, sort of get off on? Because if you're not there, what's the pleasure in it for you? Oh, you know, that's so hard to articulate. It's just, I think it's, it's her openness that's the big turn on. And it's, I could be away on a trip and knowing that she's, you know, getting laid. That's just a real, that's just a real turn on for me. Right.

It's just knowing that she's doing it. Yeah. And other than that, I really can't articulate the pleasure in it. People will say to me, you know, what do you get out of it? I get pleasure out of it. That's all I can really articulate it to. Well, it's almost like foreplay for you. Like that's like everyone's sort of turned on by different things, right? Some guys see very visual, right? Like this thought, right, in your mind is what sort of turns you on. So it's just like, but and that's like your foreplay. and that gets you horny, and then you have regular sex with you,

but you don't necessarily have to be there for it to be a thing. But have you been there a lot? Is that even more intense, or you could take that or leave it? Like, what's the deal with, like, in-person watching it? Well, I like watching, obviously. Yeah. I think it's a lot of fun to see her, you know,

wrapped around some guy while he's fucking her. But I think my presence inhibits her, and I don't want her to be inhibited. Oh, interesting. She kind of holds back, you know, because I still think that she's afraid that if, you know, if she looks like she's having too much fun, even though she knows that I'm not jealous, I think it's in the back of her mind. Right, that makes sense.

She kind of holds back a little bit. And I think the guys do, too. Yeah. I'm not there. Yeah, I think you're kind of, I'm sure there's something to that. Absolutely. So in the past, I have found something. of these guys for her or at least screen them it's always her choice i'll say so-and-so

contact me they sometimes they send a picture they send a description do you do you want to get in touch with them and if she does i just text them back or or email them back and say here's her phone number caller and it's up to you to decide what's going to happen and whatever she says goes you know she makes the rules she has the pussy she makes the rolls you'll even see that i even have a pair of panties on the on the blog that even say that so Right. It's my pussy, my rules. But in any event, they tell me, oh, yeah, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that, I'm going to do this. And then they get around me, and it's like, I intimidate the hell out of them.

And she's actually taken everyone back into the bedroom. None of them have ever gotten up and taken the initiative, with the exception of the first guy we had a threesome with. Why do you think, let me ask you, because you say you intimidate people, do you think it's just for the fact that you're her husband? because I don't think that's the case. Maybe you're physically, are you physically imposing? Like, are you a big dude and, like, have a presence about you? And that's what it is, right? Yes.

Okay. That's what I figure, because a lot of, most of the time, those guys are there and a part of the horniness for them is the fact that the husband's there. You know, so I wouldn't think it's just that you're the fucking husband, right? Because that's, like, a part of it for most people. So you're just like a physically imposing person. I am. I've been told that I had this kick-ass look.

So I don't know. I'm not a mean person. But you look mean. I haven't been mugged too often. Let's put it that way. Right. Are you really tall? I'm about 5-11, 5, 10 and a half.

Right. So I just must say you're just big. Okay, cool. So they're sort of always kind of intimidated by your presence. And so she's got to be the one to get them in the back. But you call them alphas? Do you call them alphas? Does your wife call them alpha?

Like, what is the whole alpha thing? Is that the names that you call these guys? Well, no, there's other names that we have for them that I'm not going to go into because I want to protect their identity. Totally. But basically alpha is just an abbreviation or a phonetic spelling for A. Oh, okay. It's alpha.

And Alpha 1 happens to be the first guy she met in Alpha 2 is the second guy that she met. And those have been her two long term. Right, because she does have like these guys. that she's been one of them you said because this is what you told me in your email is that one of them you never even met right she basically has two boyfriends right even though you guys she's probably fucked a lot

more than that right but she has two ongoing guys one who you haven't met and I'm assuming you don't even care whether you meet him or not so she's fucking him like in the house when you're not home or she goes outside of the house with that guy both are true statements she has she has met him in hotel

she's met him at parking Lots. She's met him in our house. She's met him in our apartment. I'll tell you a funny story, and it's on the blog. It's the last post of 2007. I think it was New Year's Eve. He was in town, and I had to drive her to a hotel in a town not so far away. And he checked into the hotel, and we checked into the hotel, because I wasn't going to drive all the way back. Right, right. And they put us in adjoining rooms. without even knowing. Without even knowing, yeah.

He's next door fucking her, and then I think the next morning she came over and tapped on the door and I let her in, she climbed down to bed. I could feel she had a pussy full of fresh gum, that's for sure. That is so funny. He never did. I had to sneak out of the hotel so he wouldn't know I was there. Oh my God. I mean, that worked out in your guy's favor. Yeah, that was kind of fun. I enjoyed that. Yeah, so, but that was that the guy that you've never met? That's correct, yeah.

Wow. And now let me ask you, these two guys, do they have, like, is this a secret thing that they do with her? They have wives at home, or are they single guys? Like, what's the deal with? What's their story? What's their story? Very quick. And now, do their wives know that they have your wife on the side?

I don't think so. So they're both married and both of their wives don't know that your wife is like sort of their side piece. That's correct. Oh, that's kind of interesting. And she never calls them. They call her or text her. And she doesn't bother them. And they both feel safe with her.

We're not trying to mess up their marriage. And, you know, their marriage is their thing. And what they want to do with it, it's also their thing. So, well, we don't discriminate based on marital status. And that's one of the things that I've found is a lot of people say, well, you can't be cheating on your wife. Well, you know, who are you to judge that? And you know what? And then, like, if you say that to people, what's going to stop?

people from lying to you anyway like what do you fucking care you know what I mean right um yeah so you guys don't give a shit really what's going on their life but if they want a part like play around with you or your wife like you guys are down for it if she if she says it's okay um so so these guys so you don't think that they have their wives no I don't think their wives no oh that's correct interesting but you're and your wife doesn't care and you you don't care yeah I don't care whether they're why people that are married I a lot of people that engage in this type of behavior do, and I think that it's just a bunch of smugness on their part.

Right. So, I mean, we keep an open mind, and whatever those people want to do is between them and whoever they decide to tell or not tell. That's their business. Let me ask you the question that I feel like a lot of guys are thinking maybe in their mind. Like, do you, because your wife is getting to enjoy all these other men

and getting to fuck all these other people, right? and do you fuck other people or, you know, you're happy just staying with her? I have in the past. Oh, okay. It's not my primary goal. Obviously, we've tried the couple swinging things. Oh, yeah, we're going to get into that. I like bad stories.

That was just a disaster. And I get more pleasure out of her dalliances than I do looking for extra girls on the side. Right. So maybe. I won't turn one down if they come along, but I don't go seeking it out. And she's cool with that. She is, yes. Right.

And when you fuck other people, does she watch? Or is it like what she does sort of like separately and then just her knowing about it maybe as a turn on or whatever? She has in the past. I mean, when we did the swinging thing, it was. Swapping, right. They call it same room. Now, I used to hook up with a couple that, he had a cockold fantasy, and I kind of understood what he was getting at, and so I would meet his wife, and he was usually there, although I did take her out one time by myself.

And my wife was never involved in that. Right. He just wanted kind of like what you wanted, two guys and a girl. Yeah, and it felt kind of strange to me because I'm not really, I guess I hate the term the bull, but I'm not the bull in the relationship. but I knew what he needed and I was more than happy to help him out, you know. And what is the bull? I don't know those terms either. The bull is the person that takes the other guy's wife and the cuckled guy is the guy that

sits back and lets her be taken, right? That's correct, yeah. Right. Okay. That's cool. And so you're allowed to sleep with other women, but for you, I'm assuming, because like a lot of guys cheat on their wives because it just gets fucking boring after a while, right, the same person all the time.

But maybe because your wife is doing all this other stuff, right? and you guys are super open sexually, you know, that you don't sort of need that variety because she, like, sort of satisfies that by being with other people and giving you this whole other sort of layer of your sex. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get vicarious pleasure from it.

Right. And so now, are either of you buy or are you both totally straight? Do you know? I mean, do you know, not you know. You know, that's it. I love the way you phrase that question. So far, we've both been totally straight.

Right. A few years ago, we had a friend that spent the night with us around Christmas time, and she was actually a co-worker, and we were going on a trip to South America, the co-worker and I the next day. And we both got kind of surprised because she made a pass at my wife. And my wife was standing there looking at me like a dog staring at a clock, like what do I do. So I jumped in and I rescued her.

Right. And, you know, and so the next day, she said, why wasn't, you know, why wasn't your wife playing? And I said, you know, she's really not into girls. And I think it would be, it's something that she feels uncomfortable with. It's not something I've ever pushed. Right. So I don't think anybody's afraid of being naked in the same room, but it's just not our thing yet. You know, I always put in.

yet because you never know what's going to happen in life. You know, never see it. Totally, right? Because then tomorrow she's going to be going down on somebody or you're going to be blowing a guy and you're like, then you're a liar. You just never know exactly. I totally subscribe to that.

But you said, like, why did that coworker, right, like sort of say, why doesn't your wife play? Like, is it, what you and your wife do, is it sort of like public knowledge? Like, are you guys pretty open about it so that this coworker would sort of be like, you know, cool with the, or actually assume that your wife would be into it? No, you know, I don't know where that came from, to be perfectly honest with you. Right.

One time she and I had an email conversation and she said, have you ever regretted not doing something in life that you wanted to do? And I said, no, because I go ahead and do it, you know? And I guess that was a hint of I would like to do your wife. I mean, we got a glimpse of it at one time. she wanted to wash my wife's here and diet. But girls do stuff like that. So we didn't think much of it.

Yeah. So when it happened, it was kind of like, well, I didn't see this coming. And I didn't want her to feel totally bad. So besides that, I went down on her and had a really great time doing that. When that same night that she went like sort of made a pass out your wife, you saved your wife by going down on her? I had to jump in and rescue her. Okay, so why don't you tell us that story? Because people want to hear that story.

So wait, so she goes after your wife. Your wife's like, I'm not interested. And so does your wife watch? Do you take her in the other room? Like, how do you go down on her? What's the scene? She watched that particular night. I mean, she seemed to be very cool with it.

Uh-huh. So. And then you go away with this coworker. Do you go to town on her again when you guys are out of town? No, absolutely not. She didn't want it again? No, it was strict. Listen, we were so busy.

it was strictly business. Okay, interesting. Yeah. I mean, by the time we got to where we were going, we were both so tired, all we wanted to do is go to bed and not be bothered, you know. Right, right, okay. So that was like a one-off thing with that coworker.

It was, yeah. And not, yeah. We're not full-time coworkers. It was, I can't really go. Yeah, I get it. I get it, right, no problem. And so now I know that you had said that you and your wife tried swinging two separate times, right, with the two other couples,

and it went horribly wrong. And I love myself a Swinger Gone. Bad story. I've had a couple on my show. I mean, most of the time I'm talking to people that do it successfully or just starting out. Yeah. Sorry, hold on.

I got to delete that. That's all right. So tell me your story. The bad one. Well, let's see. The first couple we met, I had been communicating, I guess this is way back when AOL had chat rooms, you know. Uh-huh.

I'd been communicating with the wife's half. and we seemed to get along pretty good. And so anyways, we arranged a meeting and we met them in a restaurant, and they seemed like nice people. And the guy came over, both of them came over to the house, and we didn't do anything because Aunt Flo was coming to visit. We're not the kind of people that just want to, you know, hook up immediately and put a notch on the bedpost.

We like to get to know you a little bit. And let me just explain to some of my listeners, I don't know. I mean, I know what Anne Flo is, but I feel like maybe the new generation doesn't. I don't fucking know. But like Anne Flo means that his wife was getting her period. That's correct. Some people might not know what that means.

They might actually think your aunt was coming over. No, no, no, no. Yeah, she was getting her period. Right. Okay, go on. And so anyways, we invited them over to the house. I don't know, a couple of weeks later. And my wife is not into porn.

She doesn't like watching porn vits. And she'd rather watch something. something like Outlander, you know, the subtle sexuality. Right, okay. And in any event, so the first thing he does is pops in a porn vid. Yeah. It's like, what part weren't you listening to? And then it was just, it was obvious that she was taking one for the team

because I was getting along with a guy's wife. And she was much younger than me. And it just, the whole thing just turned out to be a disaster. So we thought we might not ever do that again. and then there was a couple from Canada that came down once, and we kind of hooked up with them. And that was a mutually assured destructive disaster itself. But when you say disaster, like, what do you mean?

Like, the sex was really horrible. There was no chemistry. Like, there was no chemistry. It was just, it was so mechanical. It was there again, I thought I'd been having a conversation with the guy's wife through this chat room. Yeah, dating service, chat room, whatever. want to call it. And I really think that what happened, I think it was the guy pretending to be the wife.

You know, I just got that feeling. Oh, and she's probably. I said something and the wife looked at me like, I don't know what the hell you're talking about, you know. Like something that you had discussed in length. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, it wasn't, it wasn't fun. And we just decided, you know, to get two people to connect is one thing. To get four people to connect is a virtual impossibility in my opinion. Well, other people are very successful at. I think it might not be your guys thing. It's not. It's not. So we don't, we're not going back there again. I have no desire to go back here again and do that. No, it's probably not like, like, I think it's cool that you tried it so you know that it's just not thing. It seems like like what you guys do, right, is what you should be doing. And when did you

start the blog? And why did you start it? And how sick, I mean, do you have a lot of people following? Well, I think I've got, at one time, I think I was at the 483 followers. It's not the Tumblr type of blog where there's a lot of pictures. It's words, and I do mix pictures in, and the pictures that you see are her are her, they're edited so

that our identities remain somewhat. Yeah, that's smart. Of course. Because I don't feel like having to try to defend what I do to everybody that comes out. I'm not embarrassed by it, but, you know, people don't need to know my business. So what I did, I started it in 2007.

I think there's somewhere over 600 and some odd posts on it. So it's been pretty active for one or two years. I didn't post anything because activity was really slow. And I noticed that as Tumblr became more popular with pictures, people stopped looking at the blog spots. Right. They just want to see more than read. Right.

Yeah. So mine was, I started it because I wanted to get away. from this nonsense of this internet fantasy world of what some people think cuckolding is all about everybody's got a different opinion of it yeah that's just fine but i found a lot of stuff that you're seeing on there is really fantasy uh internet porn and it's not based on reality so i kind of wanted to let people know that hey there are people out there that have a different relationship that have an alternative relationship jealousy is not uh something that i think is I think it's something that's learned.

I don't have a jealous bone in my body. I don't get any of this. I hear this term cuckold angst. I don't even know what the hell that means. What are they implying? What is it supposed to mean that it's like the jealousy aspect of it? I guess. I really don't understand it because I'm not jealous.

If I'm around and I'm watching, I'm absolutely turned on by watching her with somebody else. I love saying her have sex. I like saying her be pleased. It's just hot for me. And I guess it goes back to what I was talking to you about before we got rudely interrupted by the rain shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes back to when I was watching my best friend to the neighbor girl across that lived a couple of doors down.

Let me ask you this. Do you think that if you weren't, like if you didn't take part in those little threesome as a young guy, that you would maybe be jealous like, because most people are, like most. people think like, oh my God, I could never handle. And I have a lot of guy friends. Like, this was so interesting when I started doing my podcast. I have a lot of guy friends. I always have. We talk very openly about sex. And I've never had any of my guy friends tell me that they, you know, have this sort of fantasy about their girl fucking another guy. And then I started doing my podcast and I had that topic on my show. And I started to see that it was like the most

downloaded, like stories and episodes that I had. And then a couple of my guy friends would like admit that like maybe they were into that. But still a lot of them would be like I could fucking never. And but recently I've had guys on that said like I was one of those people that thought there's no way like I would be totally jealous. And you know, he did it right with his wife. And then he realized like it was like the biggest turn on and he doesn't even understand why. But he loved it. You know?

And it's same like you. Like she goes off and does it when he's not there and it just thought of her with something else. It's just, I can't explain why people like what they like or don't like what they don't like. And it's like, you know, it's like, why do you like chocolate and I like vanilla or why do you like peppermint and I like wintergreen? You know, it's just a taste. And so I think we're all products of some kind of something that happened to us way back when. But, you know, I don't know whether I would or not, had I not had those experiences. I'm very happy that I had them.

When I was younger, I used to read the old penthouse forums and the variations. I used to find that it was phenomenal that people were actually engaging in different behavior. And I think that people have always engaged in these different behaviors. We've just never talked about it. And the Internet, I think, of course, has exploded it. Yeah, and that's what I do on my podcast. That's why I like to do my podcast because I think people have an idea in their mind that these people that do these sort of things sexually that, you know, like people don't do.

They think of them as certain kinds of people. I don't even know what that is, but I'm here to show people that it's just like regular people. Like I always say, it's like the people that are working right next to you are sitting in the, you know, restaurant and there's at a table. Like, you know, it could be your cousin or your husband's doing this shit. Like you just don't know. Like regular people are doing these kind of things and people think that they're so crazy

or like only perverts. They call them perverts or whatever. But it's just like, it's just what, you know, like you said, different people are into different things and what's the big deal, kind of. But because it is a big deal, people can't talk about it openly. When we used to go to this, I guess you'd call it a swingers club. It was not too far from. It was very nice club. And, you know, you had to dress to the max to get in.

It was very expensive to get in. And they served food and everything else. And I had moved way up north for a couple of years on a job. And I came back, and there was a news truck in the parking lot. There was a bar across the street where I used to meet some friends, and I asked the bartender. I said, well, what's the news truck over there for? And I said, oh, the sheriff raided the place last night.

Oh, my God. And I said, oh, wonderful, you know. Well, they arrested four FBI agents, two secret service agents, five school teachers, a couple of local cops, and one person was on the sheriff's department. You know? I mean, of course. And, of course, it's a private club. You have to pay to get in.

There's big signs on there. You may encounter nude people in sexual activity here. It's like the cops coming into your house and arresting us because we're having a for some in your bedroom, you know. So all the cases were thrown out of court, but, you know, except for the school teachers. They were the ones that got hammered. And I thought, you know, what a shame this was, you know. Yeah, what is it mind? They could be the best school teacher.

What does it matter if they like this kind of sex? That one has nothing to do with the other. It doesn't. And, you know, and, of course, it made headlines. and all kinds of stuff. So, I mean, it's just ridiculous case, but, you know, that was the world at the time, you know? Yeah. And here's all these, you walk by them and you wouldn't expect these people to be in there.

I mean, it's like, okay, what do people look like to go into these places, you know? Well, they're doctors, their lawyers, they're priests, they're rabbis, you know, I mean, they're everybody from every walk of life. Exactly, yeah, absolutely. I've had them all on my show. I love talking to people. It never ceases to amaze me when I, just when I think I've heard it all, I hear something else. You know what I mean? And I was just like, listen, I don't think, I don't think it's anything.

Like, sometimes I get emails from fans or listeners on my show and they'll be like, oh, I love listening to like the perverts on your show or the crazy people. And I'm like, I don't actually think of these people that way. Like at one at all, you know, and I've had like a guy on my show that he couldn't have sex unless he thought of his mother. And that was like actually a sad scenario. That was not a person that was a, you know, a. weird or a creep, he was wired improperly because of stuff that happened to him.

You have to feel for somebody like that, you know. So I think if you really talk to people and really get the full story, there's a different kind of sort of view you'd have of them. And that's what I hope to do on my show. But some people will still listen and think, oh, God, that person's so weird because they do that. And it's like, whatever, you know. Well, you know, I had a 1948 medical dictionary that I found laying around one time.

And if you looked at the definition of Filatio, it started off as the perverted sexual act of. Right. Well, if you look at today's medical dictionary, you won't find those words because people's attitudes change over the course of millennia. You know, once we find out that, hey, we're all perverts. I guess none of us are perverts anymore. Exactly. So it gets kind of, I don't know, there's a famous anthropology. I might be wrong with her name, but I believe it was Margaret Mead one time said that most humans engage in serial monogamy.

And some people have taken it to a step where they don't wait for the serial person to come along. They just engage in multiple sexual partners. But when you think about it with the divorce rates, there's a lot of truth to that. If it wasn't Margaret Mead that said that I apologize for giving her credit for it. Right. But so wait, at Rose people, what did she say? specifically again because I was trying to follow it and I feel like I'm like a little return to yeah she said most people today yeah in today's day and age are engaging in

serial monogamy in other words we go from person to person to person exactly we have these we have these monogamous relationships that last for a period of time and then we go to the next absolutely yeah you know and some of us are what what are my wife and I doing that's different than that well we're staying married to one another yeah you're together and doing it. Yeah, I never got married because I couldn't imagine just being with one person. So I always just have, but like I would be like what you would say Margaret Mead would say the serial monogamous. You know, I've had tons of different lovers in my life because that's what I wanted to experience, you know. I do believe, I do have a jealous side. And when like you talked about the

whole jealousy thing, I think, because I've said this to my friends, because I was always when I was young, I'd be like, oh, my goal is to be like a swinger or grow up to or be evolved enough to sort of be okay with having the person that I love and the person that I'm with, sort of be with somebody else sexually, not have that sexual ownership over somebody, because I don't think that we need to have that. It's not that big of a deal. But I think for me, where my jealousy comes from,

and maybe this is true for other people, it's the fear of, you know, because I've never been with someone that I fully trust. It's the fear that it wouldn't just be a sexual thing, that that person maybe it would turn into something else and they'd leave me. But I do feel like if I've ever met somebody that I did get on the place,

was with somebody that I really trusted and we knew we were together and we knew we were going to stay partners. You know, what would be the big deal? Do you know what I mean? And I think the couples that are able to do that either have no fear of abandonment whatsoever and could care less if someone leaves them, or they just feel very comfortable and trusting of their relationship, you know, so they're not afraid to be with other people or have that go because they know that they're going to come back to each other. At least that's what I think. If I was with somebody like that, like you guys did it after 10 years.

You know, at that point, you probably both were very like sort of comfortable with the fact that you were together, you were a partnership, and you were staying together. Am I right or wrong? No, you're absolutely right.

And I think it took that long because I think there was always something in the back of her mind was that I don't know whether or not I can really believe that he won't get jealous and get mad at me for doing this. Totally. It's not conventional. Yes, it's not conventional thinking. It really isn't. Yeah.

And it's, you know, there's a lot of trust involved. And if you can't, there's a lot of people that shouldn't be involved in this if they can't really trust the process and understand it. Okay, if something did happen, if she fell in love with somebody and decided to go off and live with them, hey, listen, I agreed to this, so I'm going to have to accept the consequences. I don't think that's going to happen. So, you know. So I was perfectly willing to accept whatever risk might come along with it.

And if you're not willing to accept that, then stay the heck out of it. It's not for everybody, you know. Right, but don't you think it's also really, like, smart that you guys had, like, a 10-year foundation, you know, before you sort of did that. It's not like you were married for a year and then start. I mean, some people might be married for a year and do it and be successful, but I think you have a better chance of sort of being successful at it, you know, at whatever kind of alternative lifestyle or opening up your relationship, you know, after they say double-digit years.

Yeah, I don't think that this are people that are in bad relationships that are trying to make the relationship better. I think you have to have a really strong relationship. Yeah. And you have to have a real deep-seated belief that, you know, I'm just not a jealous person. And never have been, right? Let me ask you this. How old are you in your wife? uh well we're I don't want to get you know there's snow on the roof but there's a fire in the fireplace I mean I'm in my 60s and so is she right right and so you've been together since for how long 23 years as you say yeah I'm we've actually been together long I mean I was younger when I

married her than my son is today so you know um so you guys have been together what because what I was trying to get at is just like did you have other relationships before her like you know Well, I was in a very long-term marriage before her. Okay. It was an absolute disaster. Okay. It lasted 18 years and 364 days longer than it should have lasted. Now, were you faithful in that relationship?

Yeah, I was, actually. And, you know, I never had sexual intercourse with anybody. I never got a blowjob and never gave any and went down on anybody. The closest I ever came to, quote, an affair was, I kissed this girl where I worked, and we came very close to having an affair, but it was, it was not a sex, you know, there was nothing physical ever came about it. If it had, I probably would have left to marriage a lot sooner, but I was, I was in a lot of, I was in a bad emotional place because it was just a bad relationship. Right, right, right. And then when you finally got out, how long after that did you meet your wife? It was about three years, I think. And now was she married before you as well?

Yes, yeah. We both came from other marriages. We both have kids from other marriages. And then you came together, and so you got it. You both got it way more right. Yes. Right. And now your wife, did she have a history of doing anything sort of like this before you, or was she sort of pretty straight in the way she lived? And then with you became more, open? She was pretty straight in the way she lived. I think she has alluded to the fact that in her marriage she had had a briefling with somebody at the time that the marriage was going in the bad direction. I guess he did so she decided to, you know, as a retaliatory fuck or something

like that, I'm not sure. Yeah. But we had kind of discussed a lot of these issues and there was a lot of discussion beforehand, as I said, and a lot of fantasy talk and stuff like that. So she eventually felt comfortable with you. Yes, and she did. And it came about because I think, you know, one of these days I'll get her to talk to you. Yeah, that would be great.

Men always want to hear from those women that are more open sexually and honest about it, you know? I think she will say that she did it to please. me, but, you know, I have to be honest, I think she did it because she really wanted to. There might have been like a little, yeah, come on, put your toe in the water, it's not so cold after all. Yeah. You know, and girls get into things differently than guys do.

Guys tend to jump into the pole. Girls tend to get in one toe at a time. Right. And I think, I'm not trying to be sexist, but that's just a different way we approach things. Girls have to be more cautious than men do. we're a little bit more adventurous because I guess we're guys and we're used to taking risks and trying to impress you. And of course, none of that stuff does impress you, but I think it does.

But it also, I have to say, I think it is a definite, there's a definite difference in our society, like as far as like what men could do sexually and be accepted, right? I mean, for you, like, everything's accepted. Guys are very open with sex with each other. You know what I mean? They don't look down on you. This is why gay men, I always say to some of my friends who are just like, to totally fucking the world and cheating.

Like, you'd be much happier as a gay man. You know what I mean? They're just like, be on your same page, you know? Women aren't on that fucking page. And then, but women, I think, for us, it's so, there's that, you know, Madonna whore thing and guys like, you know, and people think you're, like, there's words for women that do things sexually. There's no words like that for men.

You know what I mean? You don't get labeled. You just, you get a high five. You know what I mean? A girl will get a whore and a slut. And so I think that's what. pushes women's sort of sexuality down or keeps it on the down low or makes them afraid and or dip you know the toe in the water thing i think that's what it's about it well it is and it's it's

uh oh sorry yeah it stems from organized i don't know organized religion organized society is saying what what it basically was was i think it was a bunch of old guys trying to keep the young guys away from all the girls and so to get them to do that they they tried to hoard all the girls and they So, of course, they'd say, well, she's a slut. Well, she's a slut. You can't marry her. But, you know, nobody's fucking virgins. There's a reason for that, you know?

Right. Everyone wants a good time. That's why I've never understood the jihadist. If I die and go to heaven, I want 72 whores. I don't want to die and go to heaven and get 72 virgins. They're virgins for a reason. No fun. I've never had sex with a virgin in my life.

Thank God. Right. Your first virgin was when you were like 10. Yeah. And I was the virgin. She wasn't. Exactly. You were always around the promiscuous women.

I always say that I think that the whole cheating thing and the whole, like, and the whole thing with women, it's just like to keep us as like second class citizens. I think it just keeps women down and it keeps us the weaker sex, all of it. I really do. Well, see, the thing is that most men won't admit to it, but women really have the power sexually. You have the pussy. You make the rules. The difference between a man and a woman is I wake up in the,

the morning hoping I'm going to get late. Right. You wake up in the morning knowing if you're going to get late. Right. We can't get late if we wanted to. We always know we could. It's just a matter to do we want to. Right. Absolutely. Right. And so the only way we get the power back is by keeping you down. So it becomes a power. Okay. There you go. Yeah. Absolutely. You're right. Because I feel like, you know, I wish that, uh, I always say, I might show like I wish I was born into like sort of a polygamous society or like a place where, you know, just cheating, quote, unquote, or being monogamous wasn't sort of a thing, you know, because I think, like, it just put on us, right? And we're also jealous. And it's just like ruins marriages and all this stuff. And it's, like,

so crazy. And it pits women against each other, you know, you get this one man and you're just so afraid he'll be with other people or leave you for another woman. And so you hate other women for it. It's just like a whole thing. Being a woman, it's something that just like rules your life that I think, if there was a, like whether it's polygamy or openness or whatever, it would be a lot better for women, you know, as a woman I say that, you know? For men, yeah, people think, oh, that's great for men. It's like, no, it's great for women because women go mental over this shit. It ruins people, women's lives, the jealousy and possessiveness of their man,

worrying that their man is going to go out. And in nature, like a woman finds a man and she needs him to be there to, you know, sort of provide for her and be that, you know. But we shouldn't need them to just be sexual. monogamous, I don't think, you know. And I think people would stay partners more if that other stuff could sort of be out on the table and be okay. But I don't

think that that could just be changed in one second because people just have things that are ingrained in them. We were raised in societies that tell us completely different things. I agree. You know, I was listening to the podcast that you have up now with Molly. Yeah.

If I ever had for some reason something to ever happen between my wife, I want to meet a Molly. Right. The kind of girl that I want to meet. Right. Because I just love her attitude. I mean, it's phenomenal.

She's just completely open. She does what she wants. She's having a good time. And that's the end of the story. Like, there's nothing else there. Listen, I've had people on my show that are acting out sexually. I was somebody that had stuff that happened to me that I was very promiscuous. And it was like sort of an acting out thing, even though I have a very open mind.

You know, there's a lot of different things that could be taking place with people. Like, there's some men that are. fucking the world and they're acting out in a negative way. But with her, I don't get that. Like, I mean, it's just, she is just like doing what she wants to do and she's having a good time and it's, it's great. End a story. You know, that's about it. I think that's what it all gets down to. And some women are able to accept that in themselves, regardless of whether somebody's going to call them some same name of wife. But I think it's rare. But I think that that's rare. I really do. I call my wife a slut. To me, it's a compliment. But I know that it's, you know,

Other people would use it in a pejorative term, but I don't think of it that way. I was told so many times when I was younger like, Heather, you're not the type of girl. You marry. You're the type of girl. You fuck it. I'd be like horrified. Like, what the fuck does that mean? And it's just like, it's sad, though, that guys put women like that in two different categories,

that Madonna Horror Complex, right? They want to fuck a lot of women that are a certain way, but a lot of them won't marry that. You know what I mean? And so then they live the double life. And that's a lot of guys, too. That's like a weird thing with guys, you know? So it just goes both ways. But I have to say, I get emails from guys all this.

time. That's why I'd love to have your wife on because they always email because they want to hear from women that love sex as much as they do. They want to believe that that exists, right? Because isn't that what every guy is looking for? Like, you're like, yeah, if my wife ever left me, that I want Molly. Like, who, what guy wouldn't want a Molly? It's like, if you're not going to get a Molly, like I said, go be gay because you're going to have better luck finding a Molly, you know, named Mark. Because women are a little bit more uptight because of this whole thing, you know, but men love those kind of episodes. And so, yeah, if you could ever get your wife on,

now let's plug your blog again so you could get some. I'm sure people are going to, I looked around. I didn't read much stuff. I just like glancing around. There are, I know that you say there's not a lot of pictures, but there are pictures. I think now with like so much porn, so rampant,

like it's like you can just see anything you want on there. Like it's sometimes like hotter to see something different. You know what I mean? Like a little taste of things because it's just like it, in your face, kind of stuff is just so readily available, right? Your thing is stories, a picture here and there, right? No faces, but they're explicit pictures.

Like, I look through some of the stuff, and it's just like people could, I think, would find it really interesting, and this should definitely check it out. Okay, well, Cuckold C-U-C-O-L-D-H-U-S-B-A-N-D, H-U-S-B-A-N-D, B-D-D-E-N-E-N-E-D.B-D-D-B-D-Logspot.com. So that's the website address for it. Oh, right, cool. I'll put that in my, in the, like, you know, the description as well so people could know and people could go check it out.

We love to get comments, so, you know, that's always a good thing. People take a time to leave a comment. That's the only way I know that anybody's reading it. Right, this is great. Yeah, that's what I always say. I love when people email me about my podcast because then you're like, oh, people are really listening. I mean?

You just don't know. So yeah, and I'd love to have your wife on. So try to get her to call in because that would be really awesome. Like my listeners are always, you know, writing in for more women on my show. Absolutely. Who wants to hear from the guys? We say the same old shit all the time. Not really.

Each person is totally unique. Like I think, I don't know if it was you that said, like, I have this sort of topic and I think maybe you've had it on before so I get it if you don't want to talk to me. And people always say that. But I really believe that each person, you know, is unique. And so their story is unique. I could have like 10 guys that cheated on their wife and every story is going to be different. I've had plenty of cuckold guys on my show.

But your story and what we talked about is completely different than any of my other episodes. That's why I'll always talk to somebody because, you know, who knows where the conversation goes. We talked about all kinds of things today. You know what I mean? So. Yeah. Yeah, totally. So thanks so much, Jay, for calling in and we look forward to hearing from your wife.

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