Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 2018 - Callie is Into Domming and Pegging her Guy and he’s Into it Too

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

⁠⁠⁠Callie is into domming and pegging her guy and he’s into it too and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how she got her guy into anal at first, who then brought up pegging and how she felt being the dom in the situation, the contract her guy created for her as his sub and the chores and sexual and regular punishments he created, the aftercare they have after sub space and why they have it, how she experiences subspace, how she gets there and how it’s different then a normal orgasm, when things switched sand he became the dom and why, the contract they created for him as a sub, how she felt about him subbing for her, the “massages” he gets to book with her and exactly how the whole, hot role play goes down plus a whole lot more **To see HOT pics of CALLIE & HER GUY plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I love the dynamic that her and her guy have. They were dating since like the dawn of time. They met each other very young. They've only been with each other. And they, like, set up a really interesting dynamic between the two of them. They're a dom and sub dynamic. They set up between them. But it switched at some point.

Very early on, she realized he liked pegging and she pegged him. And then she was, like, the sub at first, and he was doming her. And he was the one that was doing all, like, the research on it. And, I mean, when they got into this dynamic, it's not like, oh, she just, like, you know, laid there in bed and he dominated her. I mean, like, no, there were contracts written and things set up and punishments and chores. And she gets very specific about all of that. This is like the real deal Dom sub relationship. It's super interesting all the details that she talks about.

She talks about how she gets into subspace, how what he does to her, to get her there, her sexual punishments, her regular punishments. And then eventually at some point, they decided to switch things up and change the dynamic. And now she is the Dom and he is the sub. Why they made that switch is super interesting. And then she went into the whole story about, you know, like the new contract that they created, the specifics of that, how she gets him into subspace, what she does to him, the chores he has, all that kind of good stuff. The whole thing is super interesting. You're going to love their story.

They're both weightlifters, okay? Competitive weightlifters. So you're going to see picks of them over on my Patreon if you want. And hopefully they'll be in my Discord. She's super cool. He's super cool. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Callie. Hi, Callie. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? I'm excited.

Yeah, well, you're doing, like, you're appearing on my show as a birthday present to your, to King, who happens to be your husband. That's what you call him King, right? You guys. And this is like a birthday present. He wants you on the show, spilling all your guys' naughty secrets. You guys are like, it's not like you guys are non-monogamous or anything like that, but you are in a dumb sub-relationship, you switch it up, you peg him, so he's obviously into anal stuff, and that's what we're going to be talking about on this episode, correct? Like, you're not so much into BDSM, but you're into like a dom-subrelationship, which is kind of different, right? There's not a lot of pain, but there's definitely those roles being played by the both of you, right?

Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not reached the pain threshold yet, and that's partially. just my reservation. If it were up to him, we would be like full blown on into that too. So just kind of we over the last couple of years have taken like baby steps towards that direction. And I mean, eventually we'll probably make our way over there. But we're just really big into open communication and have like try to like take very intentional steps forward but big steps. so I mean I But this dom sub thing is more in like the roles that you play and who's more aggressive and who's more bitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.

Yeah, you'll explain it. It's definitely more of a, yeah. Okay, so how old, you're 29 now. How old's your guy? So he is 28. Okay, so he's a one year younger than, how long ago did you guys meet? So we actually met when he was 14 and I was 15. Oh my God.

That long ago you've been together the whole time? time or were you just friends back then? No, so I mean, we were friends for maybe a year and then kind of started dating after that, but we've been together since 14 and 15. Oh, wow. Did you guys lose your virginities to each other? We did. Wow.

And so you've only fucked each other your whole life? Yes. Ten years, same person. Him too. Yes. So we both, I mean, we lost our virginities within two or three months of starting to date each other. but it's been 14 years. We got married like three, four years ago.

Oh, wow. That's amazing. So all through high school, all through like your 20s, you guys just stayed together. I mean, those are like really interesting years where you, I feel like you grow and change so much. So for two people to stay like on the same page, that's like really meant to be. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that we both like, that's kind of why we went into like the dumb stuff thing, I think. And we had like trickles of it in like our early 20s.

before we really started to explore it, just in the way that our relationship was, and I think we just recognized at our early age that there needed to be some kind of dynamic for it to work long term. So we just leaned into each other's personalities. Yeah, and he's just very into communication and like what words mean.

So I kind of had it lucky, or I had open communication with a guy that young. Like he understood that. Yeah, it's like you're dating a girl. Most guys don't want to fucking talk. Yeah, basically, yeah, a girl with a big dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love guys like that.

Like, I'm always like the only way I date a guy is if you would watch a real housewise with me, you know, and there is a certain kind of guy that's totally down to analyzing and everything. You know, I like those kind of guys. They're fun. You know, they like to talk more than the regular dude, you know. So I think that that's great. Have to be able to talk to him. Like I said, he's my best friend too.

So. Yeah, that's why. Yeah. Yeah. Because he talks to you like a friend would, you know. And a lot of times, that's what I think couples last. You know, with guys, because a lot of times guys just don't have that gene, you know, but your guy has it, which is super cool. So now the sex from the beginning were you guys always like, were you always subby to him and he was like the dominant one or like, you know, was it, you know, how did it start off?

I think I like really, really, because he's so much bigger than me. We're bodybuilders and I'm more on the like the lean, very lean side and he's like in like the biggest like big muscle guy. and we've always kind of been that size since we were young. And so I definitely leaned into like wanting him to be the bigger guy and like protect me and take care of me and all of that. And like, you know, he be the man. But I think from the very beginning with sex, it was always almost like he wanted to be the sub. And I picked up on it from the very beginning. And I remember literally thinking when I was a teen being like, this guy is definitely going to be into this BDSM, Dom, stuff.

stuff like when we're in a few years. Like I knew it was going to happen. So I just kind of leaned into it like early. So I mean, it was six months to a year before I was pegging him. Really? Who brought it up? Him.

Him? Like so when you're 16, he's bringing up, you mean then? Yeah. Or when you got married six months into it. No, I'm saying like six months to a year into us dating.

We were, we were just exploring everything. Yeah. And so he brought it up to you. Who brought it up? Say that again? Who brought up? So he brought it up to me.

I remember it was maybe like eight or nine months into us actually dating. And he had, we had already, I had already lost my virginity to him. We had already been like, we had the opportunity to like dog sit for a friend. So we like had the house to ourselves. So we like planned it. And he actually went out and bought the strap on himself and brought it to like this sleepover that we had planned. And then he had to buy all that stuff. because his mom was much more of a hands-off mom than my parents were.

So he had all of that stuff. But wait a second. Who brought up the conversation before? Like, did he say, hey, I'm wondering, like, you know, if you'd fuck me in the ass? Like, I mean, how did it come up? Well, it started as like, I, so I did a lot of, like, once I started dating him, I was like, oh, my God, I need to make sure I get really good at giving him blowjob really good at all of that stuff.

So I was doing a ton of research. So I knew that, like, playing with his asshole, I knew that that that would make a difference. And I think it just, like, blew his mind. And then I knew, like, that touching his balls a certain way and, like, being really light, but, like, touching some of it and not all of it. And, like, all of these little tricks I was able to kind of, like, try out on him and figure out what he really liked. And I think, like, eventually I just stuck a finger up there. And he was like, oh. And then probably the porn he was watching, too, I'm assuming was.

And I think I eventually got that out of him. I think I eventually was like, where did you even? Because like that's not what I was watching. So I was like, where did you even like? He was watching girls like pegging guys. Oh, so he had maybe explored his asshole region maybe himself before you. Because a lot of times when you go for the move to do anything with a guy's asshole when you're blowing him or something. You don't know what I mean.

Just they're so like ridiculous. Whoa. Yeah. There's so like you've only been one guy, but most guys will be like no fucking way. you know, but you went for that move because you're like doing all this research and you want to like blow his mind and he was okay with it. Like what did you start with like, like how, what kind of like action did you do at first? No, it was gradual. So the first few times like we were able to like do anything. Obviously it was more of like opportunity. But once we started to get to spend a lot more time

together, it was more of like, we did a lot of like 69 stuff where we were just like flipped upside down. and basically just experimenting like with each other and like what felt good almost like to where the goal wasn't necessarily to come but it was to like figure out what felt good for each other explore yeah yeah but what were you doing to his asshole because like this is the problem that most women have like they can't even get to that area of the guy you said you started to play around and then eventually put a finger in and he was like down so like what did you start off like when you were blowing him like just going down in that area like what were you doing yeah so if he was on his back, I would obviously come up from where his legs were at and I would like open him up completely wide and that would kind of like surprise him like almost like where a guy is going to eat out a girl. Yeah. And they like open their legs. So I would like slowly like get to the point where I was kind of doing that and kind of doing it a little bit more forcefully like as time went on. But in the beginning I would like, okay, I'm going to play with his cock and then I'm going to go down to his balls like those lightly. And then I would just kind of wet the area like the.

paint in like between you know and then I would also wet it enough to where I would just kind of like slide my thumb in and I would like basically just little bit in at a time and then I would go back to what I was doing at the top so it was more of like a slow introduction like oh was that like an accident or was that on purpose and then the next time you know and we had such open communication that he was like hey you did something and I was like yeah what did you think you know and then the next time it was one finger. It wasn't, it didn't take, but like maybe three or four weeks before he was kind of expecting that to happen on a regular basis, like every time we had sex.

And he was into it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It didn't take, but like maybe three or four weeks before he was kind of expecting that to happen on a regular basis, like every time we had sex. And he was into it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. A lot of guys will be like no fucking way. I always did this thing where I call it like the knuckle move. I would just because... Yes, I've done that. You know what I'm talking about, right? You just put it there. And then if you just leave it there in the asshole region and just let it sit there and you're blowing them, right? Like, they start pushing into it.

You know what I mean? Yes, the pressure. Yeah. And then you're like, okay, see, you fucking like it. You know, same guy that won't let you do anything. Try the knuckle move. That's a good place to start. So let me ask you this.

Were you open to anal stuff yourself? Are you exploring that yourself? Is that how you knew how to kind of maneuver? things for him? No, so I really was not into it myself and we were probably, we were doing anal with him before me. Wow, that's so funny. Because I was just, I know, I was just terrified of the pain and I was like, why would we do that when we can just do this normally and it's totally fine? Yeah, but it's so interesting that you're like thinking it's going to be so painful, but you have no problem like shoving shit in his ass.

He's like, I want more. I mean, I mean, we've come so far because, like, literally the other day, he's like, well, would, you know, he was listening to one of another episode and he was like, well, one of the guys got like all the way up to his elbow and he was like, huh? And I was like, I don't know about it. Oh, my God. All right. So now he, you get to the point where he's like down with you shoving shit in his eye, like your finger and stuff. And now he wants you to actually use a strap on. Now, at this point, were you like interested in strapping that on?

And because that's more being the dom in that situation, if you ask me, like kind of pegging him, don't you see yourself a little bit more dominant in that role? Well, I think at this point, like, as I was starting to, like, experiment with, like, putting my fingers in his ass and stuff. I think at that point, I started to realize that he was trying to, like, kind of more into the sub part of it. And that kind of put me in the dom part role, which that's more of my personality anyways. Oh, you're the dom.

Yeah, I'm pretty dominant and more like a very intense person. He's a much more laid back person. So I think it wasn't hard for me to like fill that role. And then I think he also wanted me to be the more dominant role because he knew I was, I was the one that had reservations about everything. He was down for all of it. So the speed we were going to go out was up to me and still is. Yeah.

Okay. But you were down to strap it on and fuck him in the ass. Yeah, to an extent, I remember when he brought, he actually brought it to the sleepover that we had. And I had a whole like outfit like planned like school girl skirt kind of thing planned. So it basically just, he had included that in the outfit that we had gotten together. So it, it didn't scare me at that moment because it was part of the outfit. But then the actual use of it was just absolutely terrifying. Yeah, because you can't even feel it. So is it hard to like maneuver it in the? beginning? I will most of the first several times and even now, unless we're doing it on a regular basis, which depends on how life is.

I opt for more of like just me fucking him with the dildo, but he really likes it being me as part of it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he wants the whole thing together. Yeah, I get it. Now how do you feel like? Because I've heard different stories from women. You know,

some women were not into it at all, but did it for their guy and felt like when they actually did strap it on that they felt like more into it than they expected like they felt empowered or they just felt turned on in a way that they didn't realize they would be like was it a turn on for you once you got into it yeah i think that once i was once i realized how into it he was yeah that's what turned me on i think even when i just think about it just in general like i could probably be fine without it being like part of anything. So it doesn't really do anything for me,

but I know that it does like it turns me on because of how much how into it he is. So I'm okay with it. And he knows that I am. He knows that I'm not that into it just judging by how much we do it. Because the stuff that I'm into, we do a lot more frequently. We don't do that as frequently because that's not one of my favorite things to do.

It's just not. There are other things that I'd rather do. from a DOM perspective. Okay. And we'll get into that because eventually you take a much more formal DOM sub kind of dynamic. Or you like take a more formal DOM role in his life. At this age, you're playing around with pegging, right? You're just having fun, but you don't really see it as like, oh, you're the Dom.

He's a sub yet, correct? That conversation and take place till like a couple years ago. Yeah, yeah, I could imagine. So can I just ask you a quick question? Because you got, you're from a totally different generation than me. Like, you know, if you're doing all this stuff and you're like pegging your guy in the ass and you're so young, are you like telling your girlfriends that you're doing this and he's like talking about the fact that he's doing it with his friends. Is that how it works? Or is this like on the deal? I just don't know how people are nowadays. We definitely, once we got together, didn't really communicate with anybody else. We were very much like the couple that was just like into each other like didn't talk to our friends anymore. Didn't. Oh. You don't tell your girlfriends. We were like, we don't need anybody else. Oh my God, that's so funny. Well, yeah, I mean, you've been together forever.

Quick question, this is very off topic, but I'm like very into lifting weights and have been since my 20s. Like, who was the one that got into that? It's like amazing that you're both into it together because that's such a great thing I feel like to have in common. I love going to the gym with a guy that I like. You know what I mean? Like, I think that that's so great that I don't know who was into it first, but that you're

both actually into it and you get to share that together. It's a great thing. Yeah, no, we both started working. out when we were teenagers separately and then just both happened to be into it. I just kept doing it. But he got into bodybuilding like almost five years ago, mainly because he wanted like a mental challenge or like a mental stimulation. He was already, yeah, he was already a big guy and he's like, I needed like something to take a take me to the next level. So he did a prep. And then after he did that prep and he did really good and made this huge transformation, I was like, I want to do that. So then I

started doing it after him and now we both do it. And now are you totally into it because he got into it and then you got and then you became as into it as he was or are you doing it because he does it? No, I got into it just like him. We both are at we both are at. We actually own a gym. So it's very much like our whole life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it is really your life and you both like it. That's a great thing to have in common, you know, because a lot of people, one person might work out the other one doesn't, you know, not a lot of people will never work out. Oh, it sucks. Yeah. Yeah. So it's great, I think, to have that together. Okay, so now when does it start to like formally chain? Before I ask that, let me ask you this real quick because you said like, oh, there's a lot of other things as a Dom that I like to do

over pegging that pleases you. What are those things that you like to do? I'm much more into the, like we started writing a contract. I've heard about this shit. I don't I get a contract. Yeah, no. I mean, that's just how this is personality. And it was actually his idea. to he came to me with the contract. When he first introduced it to me, he, I think he knew, and we talked about this because of where we're at now compared to where we started. But when we started, he was very much the DOM and I was very much the sub. And I think that part of that was because he needed to show me what he wanted in a DOM as a sub. So he was kind of like teaching me through how he done what he was kind of looking for. Because we are different, but we're also kind, we're also very similar just from the fact that we've been together for so long. We know we're other I guess so it started with him being the Dom and him and writing the contract and we would meet every Sunday to go through it and and you know talk about punishment and like make any adjustments like if I didn't meet deadlines and because of the way we live our life everything is kind of flushed into like our personal life our work life our home life so we're we set guidelines

around all of that to make sure that it can be played throughout the day okay but when was that change like that switch that he kind of passed the reins on to you and then and sort of let you know that he wanted you to Dom and him be the sub. I would say last year like December. So not that long ago is when like we had been doing it for a little over a year and he basically came to me and was like I feel like we had we were actually kind of I was I'm a brat. So when I'm a sub I am a major brat and I don't know if I just like let it out because I'm in that role or if I also am just a brat. It would go a little bit of both. But he really started to not like that, I guess, personally. And he didn't want to, and he kept having to punish me over it. And I kept being

very like, like, like, resentful of it. And like, yeah, it just didn't. It wasn't going while. We were budding heads. So he came to me and he was like, hey, I feel like we should try. I know this is crazy, but I feel like we should try you being in the dominant role and me being in the sub-roll. And he knew the whole time that one, it was going to work and that two, that I was going to have to realize it on my own. So I reluctantly made the switch. And now he literally said the other day, he was like, we get along so much better. Like, this is going so much better. But then he was like, I want to switch when you're at when you're six weeks out from your show so that he can keep me in line for prep. Oh, that's interesting that you make it. You make it.

work in your life for other areas of your life. Like he could be that forward thinking. That's kind of interesting. But but but it started out. But it's interesting because like in the beginning when there's this pegging going on everything, that was like the signs that at some point maybe he was going to be a little bit more of the sub and you are going to be the dom. But for a while after that, up until recently, you were the brady sub and he was the dom. And so how did like talk me through that first contract, like that he sat you? Like, weren't you like, what the fuck contract? Like, I mean, I don't know. Did he explain to you? Like, listen, this is the way we have to do it. Like, what was that conversation like with your first contract and what was involved in it?

So I think that we were on a walk outside and he like was like, hey, what do you think if I, like, I want to talk to you about something when like we meet and like it's related to like what we've been talking about because he would bring up like the Dom Sub stuff and he would listen to your podcast and stuff. So like I was I at that point I wasn't listening to your podcast or any of the other podcasts he was listening to that were related to sex. Like he listened to a lot of podcasts like that. He's always been like hypersexual like that. But I never listened with him. So when he brought it up, I was like kind of familiar with the idea, but I didn't exactly know like what all that meant. So I was like, sure. And he said that he was like, I talked to him about this the other day. He said he was like

shocked that I said okay. And he said he put all this thought into how he was going to bring it up. And I was just like, okay, sure. Because the last thing I wanted to do was shoot him down with what he's into. Like, I always want to be open-minded. And I try to, especially this far in and try to be conscious of that. And so we had our meeting and he pulled the contract up. And it was literally like a word document. Wow. And he's like, we're going to fill this out together. And I was like, okay, so he's like filling out who's the dominant and who's submissive and like we're going through and we're like going through line by line of all of like these rules. And he's gone through and like I think used like a template and then adjusted the template to like us. And there were things like

household chores that I was expected to do. And then there were like rewards and then punishments, right? And like different levels to the punishments. And then we also had like hard lines or limits. Oh, I need you to get specific because this is fascinating to me. But like, how shocked were you though when he's like, okay, let's talk about this? And now I want to let's, I'm going to bring out this contract. I mean, because I don't know. I would think that that's the last thing anyone expects that's going to come up in a conversation in this sense. Because I mean, I only know that this stuff is included in a DOM sub relationship in BDSM because I talked to so many people. But before I did my show, I would have no clue that this is a part of it. You know,

obviously there was a template that he found online like this shit goes down like he had done his research he knew that this was a part of this kind of dynamic right relationship dynamic so i think the reason i'm not surprised and i think that the reason wasn't so shocking is because he was listening to this book called like red phoenix or something and that book is like a dom sub relationship i guess kind of like 50 shades of gray but like and so he started listening to that book and i would hear him listening to it and he would play it every single time we were in the car together and just pick it up wherever it left off. So I had started listening to it and started to really like the book and like that was something we would just listen to together. And so when he brought it up, it felt more familiar

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I think. Yeah. It wasn't as scary because it was already like a. Or it's weird. I don't even think it's scary. I think it's almost like a contract. Like I wouldn't, I didn't see that coming.

Like, you know, a word document? You know what I mean? Like I would think it's more sex, right? So I just think it's surprising. But interesting, you know, and I know that, but this is very typical in that world.

and he learned it because he was doing all the research. So what were the specifics that you guys had decided on? Like, what was your punishment? What were your hard lines? Like, you know, get specific on that contract. I really am not into punishment personally. And I don't like it for myself. Like I'll punish him if that's what, you know, in the level that he wants.

But for this first contract where it was where I was the submissive, I had to be punished somehow. And part of the, we talked about how the punishment needed to be. something related to like a little bit of pain or like spanking or something because I hated it so much that it would kind of drive me to act and if we agreed to like what he could hit me with and the level of pain and all and then like the exactly what I would have had to have done to receive that punishment it was things like he really hates talking back so if I get an attitude and I talk back he would literally take me to the room and pull out this like a red paddle and he would hit me and he would ask me how many times I felt like

I needed to be hit and then on the contract it says I have to have at least five for like minor offenses and that's like talking back or missing one of my chores not getting my steps in stuff like that oh my god I'm obsessed with this so wait what were the yeah what were your short how many steps the day did you have to do 10,000 okay 10,000 and then What other kind of chores did you have to check off if before you got that? So like the basic household chore stuff, like wifey stuff. So like making sure the house was clean. There were no dishes in the sink.

If I left dishes in the sink overnight, I would get in trouble in the morning. The cats, like cleaning up after the cats every day. If I missed a day, I would get, you know, minor offenses very clean. So basically like making sure that I do that stuff to like keep the house the way that he wants it. And then my training. So like making sure that I think. follow my plan. If I'm not on plan, I can be punished for it.

And punishments for my personal stuff, like my goals is more like adding to what I have to do. So like more cardio or like he's going to train me one day and that's going to make it suck even worse. Because I think he trains me. Yes. Or like even like like orgasm, like ruining orgasm or orgasm or orgasm refusal, that kind of thing. Yeah, I was going to ask, like, well, how does this play into sex?

Because a lot of this is like four play to sex on some level, right? Yeah. So, like, how would, how did this change your guys, like, sexual dynamic? So, uh, it, I had like a time every night where I had to, like, present to him. So I had to be in the room, showered, completely naked with my arms behind my back, like, kneeling on my knees at, like, nine o'clock waiting for him. Oh, my God. And that would kind of, yeah, that would initiate like our play.

Because one of the things we realized over the years is that sometimes it can be weird to initiate when you've been with someone for so long and you feel, you know, you're just doing like the ends and out. So we realize one of the great things about the contract and about having these rules is like it always put sex first, which has kept our relationship very healthy, I think. Yeah, so interesting. So, okay, so 9 p.m. you would do that. Now, would you be punished sexually too? Like you said, there was like an orgasm

denial if you didn't do something wrong. And was that like a turn on for him or for you? For him. And I think that the worst punishment I would get would be where he would tie, he would tie both my arms down and both my legs. And then he would force me to come like over and over and over and over again until I was basically like, until I was crying. Oh my God. And how would he get you off? Like use a wand, go down on you. Fuck you. Yeah, wand most of the time. Oh, my God.

That's intense. Most of the time he'd use his hands or wand. Sometimes a dildo. I don't really like dildos. They don't feel as good as a regular dick. So I'd rather you just do something else. Don't use that. Why can't they make any that feel real?

Like, after all this time, they're still terrible. I don't get it. Yeah. You know, they can create fake AI boyfriends. Can't they make an AI dildo that is a real deal? You know what I'm saying? Like, I just don't get it that they haven't figured that out. I mean, they move now and they have like flexible skin, but they're still not, they still don't

feel that great. So he would literally though, because the wand is so intense and gives you such like major orgasms. Like he would just use a wand on you forever until like you couldn't take it anymore. Yeah. I mean like 45 minutes to an hour. And then he would go back and forth between like a smaller one to like the big one and then turn the big one all the way up. And then he would push down on like my pelvis in between.

my hips to make sure that I felt it. And then as soon as he was done, like, messing with me, then he would just flip me over and then just destroy me however he wanted to with no consideration to how I was feeling. Just shove me into the bed or into the floor. But that's what turns me on is the kind of the claim afterwards. Yeah, I can imagine. So that's why I put up with the punishment.

Yeah, because you're the bratty sub. But let me ask you this. Like the minute that's all done, do you guys like snap? back in your Cali and King, or is this like a dynamic that is like 24-7 happening between you guys? So we actually do this thing where I don't know if you call it. It's not like a post nut cleanup, but like after care, I guess. Yeah. So like we always try to like, like, I'll make sure like if I'm the one who got punished, like back then,

if I was the one who got punished, he would make sure, like, he cleaned me up and then, like, would hold me. And then now that he's the sub and I'm the one kind of wrecking him, I do the same. I'll clean him up, make sure, like, I'll clean the toys while he's, like, getting, you know, comfy in bed and, like, set up. And then I will come over and hold him. So it's kind of like you switch the power back to being equal so that there's never, like, kind of a, like, an improper distribution of the power, right?

Like you're having fun and you're doing it, but at the end of the day, you do that little cleanup thing so that you know you check in that everything's cool and you're right? Yeah, because I mean, subspace is really intense. Yeah. And we can get ourselves to like get each other to that subspace. And you definitely need like a few minutes to come down from that because it, you know what I mean? It brings you up. It brings up so many other emotions. A lot of times like one of us is crying or the other.

one is and you're just kind of recovering. Yeah, could you explain that? Because I had a girl once talk about how like a lot of people don't talk about the crash afterwards that you could get because it just takes you to a place and then you could crash afterwards and sometimes she would get like depressed or like you're saying like you cry. Explain it to people who maybe have never experienced it because I think a lot of people have no idea what it's about. I don't think I've ever been in subspace and how do you fucking get there and then how does it really feel? I think that, um, The moment that I, when I get to subspace, most of the time, it's because I am tied up. So I'm being forced into it.

I have to like have several orgasms before I have like one extreme orgasm that ends up putting me into subspace. I would say that it's normally like if there's already, I find it's easier to go into subspace if there's already a lot of emotion around or like in the room between us. So like if it's like an event or if it's a holiday or if it's, you know, something's going on, it's a lot easier to like lean into it. But I think like I, it also depends on the person because like I'm one of those people that is very empathetic. Like I cry during movies and stuff like that. So I feel like it's a lot easier for me to like start crying while I'm coming. Yeah.

You know, because it's just so intense. And then he pushes me past that to where I end up like sobbing from not necessarily that feeling, but just sobbing in general to where it's just like a release, like a full-on body release. And then, but I'm not, but it's almost like my body just needed to get rid of that. Yeah. And then you end up doing like a full body,

like almost like the exorcism thing, right? Where you're full on all the way out. And then you hang in there. And I think that if no one comes in and like, you know, startles you, like if he, because when we do it, we have, it's like a lot of foreplay. Like there's candles, there's lights,

there's a massage table. there's oil and stuff like that. So if the ambience stays the same, like is nice and low, then you can carry that. And I think that you just have to hold the person. I have had one time where I went the wrong way. And it's because he called me.

I'm one of those girls where if he calls me by my real name, I'm like, what did I do wrong? And he called me by my real name when I was in subspace. And I felt like I was like in trouble or like just majorly, like fight or flight mode and I started freaking out and had this like full on like panic attack almost because I was already like in that state. Yeah. And how does it feel different? Like if you were to explain it because like I said, I've never been in subspace. Probably a lot of people that are listening

have never been in it. Like what's the difference between like your orgasms and everything and the pleasure and everything you're experiencing in that space than when you're having a regular orgasm and not in subspace? Like what was the best way you could describe it? I think it's. I think It's more of a headspace, almost like if you were really drunk and like the room is spinning without the spin being like uncomfortable. Like when you are really drunk and you like you pass out and you wake up and you're still drunk and everything's kind of blurry. Yeah.

It's like that's the visual that I have like where I don't even really know what's going on. But then the feeling is like you almost go numb wherever like for me, I'll go numb until I have some like touch on my face or on like my uh the top like the upper part of my body the lower part of my body starts to pretty much go numb once i get into subspace when i've been in subspace tied up that was something where like i just kind of like collapsed and he had to physically like pick me up and carry me to bed and i don't remember him like untying me because he loves ropes so he's experimented with the rope so i think it's more of like a a mental like leaving of your body or something but like yeah why do you need your body yeah obviously but

and why do you think you do you know does your guy know why you would lose and go numb and like the lower part of your body and be so yeah and need that you know sort of physical touch in the upper part to get you snap you out of it i think it from how much like major eye contact there is during like our interactions I think there's just a lot of energy between us that we're both like trying to stay very in tuned with. So he's like constantly looking at me constantly like trying to like stay on the same page as me. So I think it is just partly because we know we I guess know each other's bodies really well because we just gotten to that point. I don't I think that for him. Why do you stay connected though in your head in that area you don't sort of lose numbness?

But the bottom part, do you know why? I wonder if it's like because of the, I wonder if I like want to disconnect from that. And like, like, or if it's because of the vibrators just like completely screwed me and I'm like just numb down there now and I can't feel anything. Or maybe you're just so detached and because you're so in your head and it's such a mental thing that that's where your focus is or something. I don't know. It's interesting. Probably somebody else knows that. knows a little bit more about some space, but it's interesting. But it's a pleasurable place,

correct? I mean, it is like ecstasy, right? Yeah, no, it absolutely is. And my, my entire, like, moan and, like, orgasm, cry and everything is completely different once I get to that space. Yeah. And to, like, you know, the thank you's and like the I love you's and all of that come out at that point. Yeah, crazy. Now, now we're going to get to the point where it switches and, you know, you're going to start doming your guy. A quick question though, and we'll work up to this if the answer is yes. Like, have you gotten your guy into subspace now that you're the dom and he's the sub? Yes.

Okay, cool. All right. Yeah, go on. I get him into subspace more than he's gotten me into subspace. Okay. So get to me to the point where things change. Why do you think that they did? Did somebody bring it up?

Like, was he the one? I forget. I think you mentioned he was the one that came to you and said, hey, let's switch us up because you were like too brady and it wasn't work. Like it was you guys were having some arguments about it, right? Is that what happened? Yeah. I think that he really wanted.

I think the biggest thing is he really wanted to not have to be such a dominant at home because he was having to be such a dominant at work. And I think he really realized that he was going to burn out. Yeah. He had to do both. So it was a little bit out of desperation, which I kind of saw. But I also was like, we both kind of realized when he brought it up. Like this is like the ultimate.

ultimate goal, the goal was, and that's when I realized that his goal was for him to be the sub. He just wanted to teach me, you know, that this is how you do it. And now it's just kind of fine-tuning how I do it. And then, you know, because I've been, I've done the sub role and it fits life sometimes, like, we feel comfortable enough switching. But I can't be a sub for very long because I just, I, I need control. Yeah, but that works for you guys because he wants to let go of control and give it to you. So I think that that's great. And it's like, I mean, to me, my favorite saying is always like, know thyself. And, you know, the fact that he was like smart enough to realize, like, we need to switch this up because I need this and bring it to the table, I think is like super

great. But like you mentioned, he's always been that guy who's like very in tune with his emotions and talking, you know, so he's got that know thyself down thing. Great. So he brought it to you and you were into it, right? Yeah, I think at first I was kind of like, that's a lot of responsibility. Did you create new contracts? Like how did it start? Oh my God. No, he wanted me to create the contract. So that was the first part of the responsibility. So I'm like, all right, we're doing this. Okay. So, but then I started to lean into it. I think that the biggest thing was that he also realized that I'm not going to change my personality. So we might as well go to what fits. And when I wrote this contract, he gave me two weeks to write it. And then we met. And we talked. And we talked. And we talked. And we talked. And we talked. about it. And I didn't change a ton of it besides, like, him being more of the submissive. And then he also wanted different punishments and different rules, different praising. So for him, he wanted a lot of more physical touch and physical affection. He, and that's my thing, too, but I think that he gets in his head about, like, if he's doing it too much. So he was really looking for me to be the

driver in like the physical touch um and then he and then also setting rules for like when he needs to do his stretching and like steps and stuff like that he also has to go into the room by 930 and he has to be doing his he has to be meditating he has a like a shock tea mat which is like acupuncture so he's got to go if he didn't do all of his stuff for that day then he has to stand on the shock team at or kneel on the shock team at depending on how poorly he did that day if he did well then he just goes in there and he'll meditate just like on the floor until i come in the room sometimes i come in the room right then sometimes i come in an hour hour and a half later and i make him wait and this is every day yeah okay yeah well you guys are weightlifters are very dedicated people i mean

obviously yeah you don't fuck around right it's all or nothing we got a routine yeah yeah yeah you have to. I mean, people don't understand the credit. They got to give people if they see a muscle in their arm. Like, it's a lot of fucking work. And it's all the time. He never stops. Okay. So, all right. So now, what were his chores? Like, did he now have to clean the fucking house? Like, or what was his chores that he had to do? Or was, like, you know, did it change? Or did he just take over your stuff? So I actually still do most of the house stuff just because I prefer it a certain way. He has a couple of small things that he does. Like he does the laundry and folds it and puts it away for me and stuff like that. The bigger things that he does for me. I gave him all the things that I don't like doing. So he does the cat stuff. He takes the trash out, all the boy stuff. And then for like for all of his other chores or all of his other rules, they're mainly related to me. So he brushes my hair on the weekends. Like we'll watch TV and he has to brush my hair after I watch. it and then he mainly has to like he really wants to physically touch me so it's like it was coming up

with stuff that would give him a reason to touch me but that wouldn't be too much for me so giving me massages and like those are like praises for him too like not just like i get a massage once a week on a tuesday it's also like he gets to give me an extra one or gets to give me one while i'm naked if he does something good so pretty much everything related to to him is about me or about the sex? Let me ask you a question that I think some guys might be worried about. You know, how, like, did it change the way, like, you know, kind of doming your guy and seeing him in a subposition? It's very opposite the way a man typically likes to present himself to a woman, you know, and I think a lot of guys' fear would be like, oh, if I show her that side or if I sub to her, she's not going to, she's going to lose her attraction or see me in a different way.

Like did it change any kind of feelings you had for him seeing him as a sub like this guy who's always been doming you and everything like was that hard to get used to? Did it change the way you felt about him or was it you know, you know, same day different shit? Like I don't know. You tell me. The I honestly think the biggest the biggest adjustment still is the pegging thing. I'm still not like a hundred percent in it for myself. I think that that's like the only thing that has like that. I. I think that's like the only thing that has like that. I. I'm even like a little bit like not like not 100% sure on, but I will, you know, do it for me. I enjoy it when I'm doing it, but not, you know, it's not my idea a lot of the time. But from like his like masculinity kind of standpoint and stuff, yeah, definitely I think that I was worried about that at the beginning. Like I wonder how this is going to make me feel about my husband. But I think it actually made him more masculine to me because he took such ownership over

the relationship and I think that when you do the dom sub thing you have to really make it a priority and I think when you when a guy is so honest about what he wants from you sexually like so vulnerable I think that adds to his masculinity because it's him willing to be open about his communication so you're like okay if he's willing to tell me these things he's probably being honest with me about everything else he'll probably continue to be honest with me and I think that it just allows for a lot more room for experimentation and exploration for both sides. And I think that because he's already extremely masculine, a bodybuilder has a lot of muscle and stuff and as a big guy,

it was a little bit easier for me to swallow than if he was just like this skinny fat guy who, you know, didn't have any muscle, didn't take care of himself. I'd be like, no, of course you want me to fuck you. But this is like, no, he wants me to fuck him because he knows it feels really fucking good. and he's chasing pleasure because he works hard. Yeah. And he wants it to be me because he wants this connection. Yeah.

And listen, that's the truth of anyone, whether it's a skinny, scrawny guy or the big buff guy. I mean, it doesn't really change that guy in who he is or make him less of a guy, right? Because he's into these things. But that is the typical fear like that you might have that maybe a guy who has this wish is afraid to bring up because he's afraid his girl will feel that way. That's why I ask that question because I would think that. that would be maybe a thing. But typically when I'm talking to people, I always get that response from the woman that she

was maybe afraid, but it didn't turn her off. And same with the guy, like him not feeling any different. And it's just really a way of releasing. And typically, a lot of the times, the guys that are into this are very dumb guys. That's the whole point. That's the whole reason why they want to switch out because they tend to be very dominant, you know, every other time of the day. You know, so that's the release.

Yeah, no, I think that's a whole lot of it. And then I also, it does play into just like the, you know, when I think that being the one to initiate, I think that when it's like a pegging thing, like he really wants it to be like me or anything really really wants me to be the initiator. And I think that knowing that like I'm filling that Dom role, like that's my job. He like I'm the initiator. I think that it bridges the gap a little bit and makes. him even more open to like, okay, well, we're doing, like, even when we're doing the pegging, like, is, like, him wanting to do more or, like, wanting to do something bigger. I feel like the more willing I am to do that kind of stuff with him, the more he wants to do,

and the more open and the more he shares with me, the more I can share with him. He's, like, on the hunt for me to tell him, like, what my fantasies are. Yeah. And I don't have, like, these crazy fantasies that he wants me to have. That's so funny. Walk me through how you get him to some space. What are the crazy things that you do to him? Like, we heard what he does to you when you're punished and ties you up and makes you an orgasm until you cry.

Like, what does he get done to him? So, I mean, his biggest thing is, we'll do this thing where he will book a massage quote with Callie, who will, is actually going to be like his masseuse and it's not me. So it's like a role play thing. And I have the whole house set up. So when he comes home from work, there's like a whole thing set up in the front. And I, you know, am asking him like all dressed up and heels and have a whole outfit on like I am the, you know, at the front desk of this massage place. And like checking him in and stuff.

And like the whole time during that day, like we'll do, we'll like text back and forth and I'll text him like I'm her leading up to his appointment, flirt with him, stuff like that. And then I'll bring him in to where we have like our massage. table. So we actually like replaced our TV in our room with a massage table. Recommend that for all couples. Okay. But I bring him to the massage table and then I'll take him through this because he's so into the physical touch thing. Like I stay fully clothed and I blindfold him and then I'm just, you know, lightly touching him, massaging him, getting on top of them, pushing into him. And then I, once I flip him over, then I'll start to, you know, get on top of him and like oil up his cock and do all of that. That's like his

favorite thing because it's like a role play thing. Yeah. So after we do the massage, typically I'll make him come one time when I'm up there. And that's literally just from me, like, giving him a hand job and like looking at him and knowing that he can't see me. So that anticipation like really gets him to. And then I'll move him to the bed and I'll tie him up. So we have ties on all four corners of the bed.

So I'll tie him up really tight. and he's still blindfolded. And then I'll just start clicking around him in my heel so he hears me kind of walking around. I'll go into the bathroom. He really likes to hear me pee. So I'll pee for him so he can hear me. And then he'll start like wiggling. And I'll just take my sweet time to come over to him like 30, 45 minutes.

Just make him sit there. Oh my God. That's probably super hot. Like that's foreplay to a guy that likes T's in denial for sure. Yeah, no, he's like dying all like wiggled. Yeah. I'll like close the, I'll like leave, go downstairs, come back up. And then when I come back in, I'm just talking to him, right?

So he calls me mommy. So I will like talk to him like, hey, you know, your mommy said you did really good today. You said you did really good at work and like just talking to him like I'm Callie. And then I will basically, he really. I'll, if I'm into it that day, and if he's been really sweet, I will put the dildo on and I will peg him with like with my outfit. But if that's not on the menu that day, then I, then I typically will go, I'll crawl up on top of him. I'll take his blindfold off. And I keep talking to him while I'm touching him.

He really likes the nipple play. So I play with his nipples. He's starting to get into the pain thing. So I'm starting to, we have nipple clamp. So I've started to while he's tied up, tighten those around his nipples. and see how much how tight he can get he really likes that and then um just keep kind of kissing him i'll pinch him like go down his like and try to leave marks i'll bite him he really likes like the little like pain and then i'll go and grab the same paddle that he uses on me and i'll start to

smack his inner thighs recently he's been really into like me spanking his balls kind of but not like just a little bit just to kind of see if he can get to where he can handle it. So I've been doing that too. And I think all of the foreplay kind of helps, like, bring him into, like, subspace. I think that that's, like, one of the biggest parts of getting someone there is, like, the intention leading up to everything, you know? Yeah.

Like the ambiance and everything. Once I, like, finished doing all of that with him, I'll undo his ties and I'll just lay next to him. And at this point, I've got just like, sometimes I'll wear like a trench coat with lingerie under it. Sometimes I'll just wear like some cute lingerie set. And I'll lay in bed next to him and I'll just let him lay next to Pete. And he's gotten to this point where he can come just from like humping my leg. Wow. So he'll literally just like, I'll just be holding him and talking dirty to him and he'll like just start humping my leg and get to the point where he comes again. and typically I'll punish him for that.

So I'll tie him back up and start to really spank him when he's tied up. He's on his stomach and I'm spanking his butt harder to try to get him to get it to hurt. We do use safe words. So he will always like ask each other, you know, where we're at with safe words when we're doing stuff like that. But I don't even really ask him because I don't think he would ever use his safe words. He loves it. You're basically pushing you further, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And so I'll typically punish him for that. Usually what's happened a couple times is during the course of me punishing him, he will come again from like the friction of like being on the bed and being, you know, tied to it like face down and me kind of like pushing him into that. So I mean, I try to make him come like three times at least, but by the time he gets into subspace. And he won't go into subspace unless something is in his ass. That's the biggest way, it was the best way to get him into it. Has he had a prostate orgasm? Do you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah? Oh, yeah. And he's had two that we think he's had two.

Yeah. Like big ones because he will, he'll talk about it. He, the two that he's had, he'll talk about for days. Yeah. And the one that he, yeah. And the one that he's had was with the like massage setup. Like that really got him. Yeah.

So he needs something inside his ass. if you're not pegging him, will you put dildos in his ass and stuff like that? Is that what you do? Yes, I'll do pretty much everything else. We use, we use like a lot of like butt plugs. Uh-huh. That's always good because we just leave it up. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I say. So we'll grab like the different sizes and I'll like work my way up through the different sizes. If I was going to peg him. But I have, lately I've just been like working up through the bigger sizes of the butt plugs and then putting a cock ring on him so that he has that. while he fucks me so he stays hard. And that's like his favorite thing to do too because he gets to fuck me, but he also has that in his ass. Yeah.

Wow. I'm like obsessed with your guy's little relationship here. I love what you have going on. Me too. You're very committed, you know, and dedicated to this whole lifestyle. You know, I was like afraid that we weren't going to have a lot to talk about, but I could have talked to you for another hour. Like I just love all the specifics of it.

It's so super interesting. I know that like you guys are talking about maybe doing other things like maybe go into strip clubs or sex clubs, right? Is that something that's on the table maybe in your guys' future? Yeah, I think that we definitely would be down to go for like the environment at first and like just to get like really turned on and then probably leave and like fuck around ourselves like after. But we're definitely open to it. It's more of like finding the right place that we know is going to give us the right vibe. But we've definitely talked about it. It's one of those things, too.

Like, I've said, like, everything we do, we talk for, like, weeks and months before we do it. Yeah, that's smart. So, and he's, like, so, like, he has figured out, like, how I am and how to bring stuff up to me. So I don't just, like, shoot it down. So I think that's part of it, too. But is it, it, his idea to bring up, like, hey, like, maybe we could go to a sex club and you just were, like, okay with it. Was he the one that brought that to the table? Because he's listened to all these podcasts and stuff.

I think that because of the podcast we've listened to it has come up. I don't know if like he brought up specifically because I think that if he did, I would be like, what? So I think I'm pretty sure that it probably. Yeah. And like, I mean, one of the things that we do like, we love going to festivals and we'll typically end up doing like crazy stuff that we wouldn't normally do when we're sober. Oh, like those music festivals you mean.

Yeah. So we would probably end up doing something like that. if we were going to just like make it a little bit more like be a little bit more open. But I think we're yeah, we're definitely down. It's just finding the right place. Yeah. And that could be hard. Sometimes you might have to travel a little bit.

You know, I mean, you guys are going to be the hot pieces of ass in any place you go. You know what I mean? You're super young. You'll probably, and listen, I don't think you even have to do anything. Like you just want to go to like check it out. Sometimes just seeing people fucking in front of you. or fucking fun of people could be like super hot for a couple. You never have.

I love having stories of couples that just like ride that line in a club because I think that that's like an option for a lot of people that maybe don't want to go and fuck other people. Right. I think the majority of people might never want to do that. But there are still things you could do. Like you could still go and just look and then get super horny and then go have, go home and have great sex, right?

Why not? Yeah. That's basically what we're trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good first step. I mean, listen, look at what you guys been doing so far.

I do think it's like really smart. Like you said at some point, like this kind of keeps your sex life fresh and hot. I mean, you guys have only been with each other. You've been with each other since the dawn of time. But, you know, you're having a lot of fun. Like, you certainly are not in like a vanilla relationship, you know. And you're so perfectly aligned with each other. Like, you really met your match and you're lucky.

You're one of those lucky ones, you know, to have met your guy, the right guy so young, you know? Yeah, I know. It feels good, but I think that also it's like just recognizing each other's effort. I think that he, you know, just being willing to like talk about your relationship. I think so many people are like, we stopped having sex and now it's over and it's like you have to talk and figure out what happened. Yeah, no. I mean, that's what, I mean, that's you're very lucky because I think a lot of the times and I hate to say this, but men and women are different. Okay.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Women love to fucking talk, okay, about anything. And men typically don't. So I think you're very lucky in that you have a guy who just happened to be like one of those kind of guys that likes to talk. And like you said, and is very in touch. And he's very curious, it sounds like. And he goes, you know, investigating and learning.

And he brings things to the table. Like, I mean, a lot of guys aren't wired that way. So I just think you're, you know, you got a real good one, you know, and you're super lucky. Yes. I mean, maybe guys are different nowadays. Maybe a lot of guys are like that. But a lot of guys weren't like that when I was growing up. So I think that, you know, you know, you're just.

You got to give King a high five for that. You're lucky you met him. He's a keeper because I think that the key is communication. And what's also cool about you is like you're like super open minded and you don't ever want to put him down for what he's into. So whenever he's communicated with you, you didn't say like, it gross or what the fuck, you know? And a lot of times when a guy does get the courage to bring things up with his girl, if she does that to him, like that shuts shit down. Like, you know, communication isn't just about talking. It's about being open to the other person and being, you know, sort of relating back to them in a respectful way, right?

Like you were always cool when he brought things to the table. And a lot of times I think guys are afraid to bring things to the table because imagine your girls like, ew, gross. You know what I mean? And sometimes like girls do that. And that's like horrifying. Like that's like such a rejection for somebody. So I think your guy's lucky too. You're both lucky.

Oh, yeah. He's the best. Well, happy birthday, King. I love that you guys listen to my show. I love that your weight lifters. High five for that. I love working out. And I admire people that are fucking hardcore.

Okay, because that means you're hardcore in every other area of your life. Exactly. It's never just in that area. People that are real weightlifters are, that's where it's fucking out to be successful. So I love you guys. I love the story. I'm so glad you called in. Do me a favor and send me some anonymous pecks.

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I'll give you free access to that. There's a lot of shit going down there. But send me some anonymous picks if you can for my Patreon. Would you be down for that? Yeah, I'll definitely will. Okay, cool. Thanks so much for calling in. I love your guy's story.

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