Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 208 - Andy's Wife Just Found Out he's Bi

Episode Date: December 11, 2017

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so much. I loved tweeting, but I just don't do it anymore now that I'm a mom. I'm just too involved in mom things to really sort of be witty in that way. Anyway, I have on a guy today named Andy who's really interesting. He wrote in because he wanted to talk about the foot fetish that he had because he just had a foot fetish guy on. But it turned out he also told me that he was also by and he was into pegging and that his wife just found out that he was by. And I was like, add a million questions for him about that whole situation. And we wound up talking all about that on this podcast that we didn't even get to the foot fetish thing. So I'm going to do another podcast with him about that because he has, his foot fetish is different than the other guy's foot fetish.

But the whole bye thing was really interesting. And like, so we talk about that. We talk about like what he did behind his wife's back, how she found out, how she took it. You know, when he started being by, when he got into pegging and all that kind of good stuff. We also talk about anal sex. we give some tips, both me and him, for people about how to get into anal, whether you're a woman or a man.

And that's it. I don't know. So it's a really interesting story because it's interesting how his wife took the news. So stay tuned. I'm going to be right back on with Andy. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about

to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, strictly anonymous wants to hear from you. you send us an email strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, Andy, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast, your own.

Kathy, how are you doing today? I'm doing pretty good. That's good that you're doing pretty good, considering you told me in your email. I mean, you wrote in to me because you had heard by, uh, episode on the foot fetish right like you were a foot fetish guy right um and you wrote in about that and you're like oh so happy to hear another foot fetish guy um and then i was like well what's your story and you're just like oh well i'm into pegging and i'm by and my wife just found out and i was like wait a second like that's what i like that's really fucking interesting like what's that whole

story about like you know um because obviously if she just found out that means that before she found out you were living a secret life as a bisexual guy, right? But you're married. Yeah. And I, you know, so of course, I immediately had like a million questions and thankfully you decided to come on the show and tell me all about it. So that's your deal, Andy. You're a guy that's into, you have a foot fetish and we'll get to that, right? But I want to know the whole backstory, right, on how you were by behind your wife's back and how she found out. Let's start with how like she found out and then we'll go backwards. Let's get the end of the story, the interesting part of the story, and then we'll go backwards. So how did she find out that

you were by? How long have you been married to her at first? We've been together almost seven years now. So, okay, and how did she find out? Well, we had joined a website for meeting people with similar kinks. And what were your guys' kinks, pegging, by the way? Was that it? One of the things? That was one of the things, yeah. And that was something we had just to. started doing recently. I would say we haven't even been doing that for more than a year yet. And explain to people what pegging is in case some of my listeners don't know. Pegging is where the woman takes the man's role.

So she would strap up and then the man becomes the bottom. Yeah, exactly. I'll say it more crass than you would. That's all right. Yeah, okay. And so you guys have been doing that for the past year. That's something new that you guys got into. Now, this whole thing about you guys going online and meeting other people,

had you guys been pretty open sexually like with each other? Or was this like your first like sort of entry into being really open sexually with other people and stuff? Or had you done a lot of things? We hadn't looked for other people before. It was mostly just so she could find another woman to play with because she's always wanted to have that experience, but it never had a chance to. Right. Okay.

And I was more than willing to take a backseat in that and just, you know, let them have that it. And if the possibility came of the new woman picking me as well, that was exciting, you know. And so we each had our own profiles and we were kind of just scoping out the local area and talking to people. And it wasn't a secret. We each had access to each other's accounts and stuff like that. And I had started talking to a couple of guys. and it got a little vulgar

and she had offhanded the just, oh, I wonder who's he talking to and I had said to one of the guys that I had been with guys in the past. Oh, in one of your emails or something, right? Okay. Yeah, and it really caught her by surprise. Because she had no idea.

Yeah. Let me ask you this. Did the whole, like, guy on guy action with you take place before you guys were married or was it taking place while you were married behind her back? Some of it happened before, some of it happened during. Okay. And now let me ask you this.

Well, first of all, how did she react? I think she was more hurt than anything that I didn't trust her with it. That's interesting. When we first gotten together, nobody in my family knows. Right. I have maybe two friends that know, one, a woman and one a guy. guy who is also by and then now my wife. Right.

And it's always been kind of, we've always been hard on my brother because he experimented in high school. And what did everyone find out? I mean, normally the stuff that people experiment with high school, they keep it on the down low, you know what I'm saying? Like, what was it? Like by accident, everyone found out that your brother fooled around with a guy? Everybody found out by accident and nobody's ever let him live it down.

Of course. That's why people keep that shit on the down low. Exactly. High school is brutal. Right? Yeah. And so she had kind of, not intentionally to be mean, but she had joked before, like, if she'd ever found out I was gay, she would leave me kind of thing. And so that really kind of made me, well, now I can't even tell her. Oh, you mean like when the thing would come up with your brother, she'd be like, oh my God, if I ever found out you did that shit.

Like that's when it would come up that she would say that kind of stuff? Right, right. Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And so you, of course, are thinking like, oh, I can't tell her anything. Yeah, exactly. So did you explain that to her when she was just like, oh, my God, like, why didn't you tell me?

Yeah, I did. And did that make sense to her or no? Yeah, I definitely made sense to her and it made her feel like shit. Which was not my intention. What do you mean it made her feel bad like she did it? It was her fault that you didn't tell her? Yeah. Right.

But at any point did she get really like angry that like you had cheated on her? Like did she ever think of those kind of thoughts? I mean, I would assume that she'd have so many mixed emotions about the whole thing about finding out. You know, and I don't, how recent was it? Like how long ago did she find this out? Oh gosh, maybe four months ago. Okay. So she might still be processing her emotions.

I don't know. Maybe she's worked through it already. But like after her whole initial like, oh my God, I wish you just. would have at least told me. And then she was upset that you didn't tell her because she didn't tell, you know, made it seem like you couldn't tell her. Then what happened after that? She actually took it really well, you know, because I had to explain to her.

It's not like, it's not a relationship thing. It's like I'm not attracted to men in a way that's like I want to be with them all the time kind of thing. It's not romantic. It's not like what you have with her. It's not emotional. No, it's more of a. like I feel like I take a dominant role in my normal life. So it's fun to flip it and be the submissive to another guy.

Right. Interesting. Well, but some people would be do it, flip it and be submissive to another woman, right? But that would probably be the by part of you that, like, wants to be submissive and then flip it to a guy, right? Yeah. And, you know, it's fun. Right.

Well, you like to be pegged. I mean, you're a bottom anyway, right? I mean, you've been a bottom. in your relationship, even with women, like you like anal action, right? I mean, that's like a thing that you've always enjoyed. And we'll go back into like when you figured that out, right? Right. So she kind of just, after she found out and after the initial, like I wish she would have told me,

it kind of turned into, well, she understandably had a lot of questions. Right. And like, well, was it somebody we know? When were you doing it? like, you know, were you safe kind of thing? Yeah, I have all those questions, too. Can you tell us the answers? What did you tell her?

Like, can we all get filled into? Yeah. It hasn't been, it's not like a long list. Yeah. I've only ever been, in my whole life, I've only ever been with five different guys. Mm-hmm. And only, I'm trying to, I think it's only two of them that I've bottomed for. The rest of them are just oral.

Right. Okay. and only two different guys since we've been together. One of them was just a one-time thing. And the other one was a guy we actually know. And I actually didn't tell her that part. I was going to ask you, like, were you straight up honest with all of the information? Because that would have been, like, really, like, you know, probably dumb.

Yeah. You know, it's probably good that you kept that to yourself. because what does it really matter? Do you know what I mean? I know a lot of people are probably listening. I'm like, oh, you should be totally honest. But like at that, like, why would, like that probably would have really bothered her maybe, you know? Yeah.

And it's, is she actually asked me specifically about this guy? Oh, really? It was, you did it with him, right? Because why did she think that? Well, I mean, we've been bros for a long time and I have gone over to his place and hung out for until like two or three in the morning on multiple occasions. you know and it's not to say something didn't happen every time i was hanging out with him we just like to hang out also but let me ask you this did you fool around with him a lot uh more than

anybody else well but what does that mean because you said that you've only been with like five guys right two were like right and then only a couple like how many of them did you like fool around with on multiple occasions because some were just like one night stands right there's only five guys like have you only been with like a couple guys, a man a couple times in your life? Or were you ever with one person like many, many, many, many times? So, uh, I'm like your wife. It's like your wife grilling you all over again. It's fine.

Most of the time it's just a one off. There was one other guy that it happened two or three times. Uh, I think I gave him a blowjob multiple times. Then he, I bottomed once. Uh, the specific buddy, though, I would say it's not like an outrageous number of times, but I don't know. Like a couple times a year. For the past, how many years?

10 maybe. Okay, so 20. I was right. Yeah, yeah, that's probably about right. About 20. So two times. And now did you ever get bottomed with him or was it strictly just oral? I bought him for him twice.

And all that time. And then the other times it was just like oral. Let me ask you, would you make out with these guys? Like, are you one of that wants a kiss, too? I would if they were interested, but it's not something I push. Right. Okay. With this guy, did you?

Yeah, we've made out before. Right. Okay. And so it was like sometimes you just, and now let me ask you this. Like, why would sometimes you fool around and sometimes you wouldn't? Like, would it only be like when you guys like got drunk together that it would happen or what like, you know, because like, why wouldn't it happen every time? I mean, normally guys are just so horny. They want to fuck all the time, right?

So, like, why sometimes? Why sometimes not? Like I get why when if there's a girl involved, because, you know, girls are more temperamental when it comes to horniness, right? But like men, you typically think are horny all the time, right? So I would think if you got two guys hanging out all the time, you would probably want to blow each other always, right? How come only two, how come such a small amount of times?

Like, what would happen on those times? It was normally like he was going through a dry spell. Oh, why? Is he like, is he by or is he gay? Like, what's his deal? He's my friend that's by. Okay, so dry spell with men or dry spell just sex in general? Just sex in general.

Okay. So it was when he wasn't getting action anywhere else. Yeah, and it wasn't like he was calling me and begging me. I'd just be like, you know, we'd be talking about it or hanging out of his house and I'll throw you one man, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah, like a booty call, like friends of benefits when you need them. But he was also just, you guys were good friends outside of this. kind of thing, right? You hung out many times besides this and you guys didn't pull around at all, right?

Yeah, we worked together for a couple years even and it only like it still never increased the odds of it happening. Right. So and then besides the two times, so you would just fool around two times a year and how many times did that guy peg you or bottom you or whatever you call it when it's two guys? Just twice. Just twice in that whole time. So the other times it would just let be straight up just blow jobs. him giving you blowjob, you giving him a blowjob? Just me giving him a blowjob. And what would he do? Just enjoy himself.

And what would you just jerk off and come that way? No, I normally don't. What? It's just, it's really confusing, especially on a one-night stand. So I would give them a blowjob. And then they would be like, well, what do you want me to do in return to you? Do you want me to give you a handjob or something? Yeah.

And they never understand like. like it's like it really gives you a good high to like I like giving a blow job because it's like I make him come I get my endorphins and like the horniness level is just skyrocketed and I just like to enjoy that for as long as I can but if I get off it kind of just goes away right away oh I know people like you I know straight guys that are like you now it makes all sense like it's like I had a guy on the other day I was like oh are you one of those guys that likes to do the show like they're the oh It was the foot fetish guy. I was talking about the show. Yeah, yeah. Guys that just want to please women, and they're hard the whole time, and they're just making their, like, that thing last for so long, right? And they're making you come and go up and down, but they just want to stay at that level.

And, and they, like, and so maybe that's, it's the same thing. Like, it's because they just want to stay, like, fucking high. Because it is kind of like a high, right, when you're horny. It really is. Right? And so for you, and you don't crash, right? Because if you don't come, you just stay up there. Well, and it's normally like, so he, he doesn't live super close by.

It's not too far, maybe, you know, 35 minutes away. So if we did something like that towards the end of the night, you know, I might hang out there for another hour or so. And then by the time I drive home, then I'm ready to masturbate. So you, but you could keep the horniness and sort of that feeling all the way home? Yeah. How? But just by the thoughts of it? just the excitement of it right how interesting it it's just that feeling of like i shouldn't be doing this

and not just because you know i was married it was more just because like it's a guy and no one knows yeah it's taboo in that sense right right right so if you didn't come you could hold on to that and you held on to it all the way till you got home and then you would jerk off or would you fuck your wife and think about it or you jerk you'd have to jerk off and be by yourself about like it and do it Yeah, I would normally just jerk off by myself. Like in the car, in the driveway? Or what you know? No, no.

I mean, it doesn't know. I would go in the house. I don't know. She would normally be in bed by the time I got home. So I would just take a shower and do it in there. Right. And it was like the best orgasm ever because you just made it drag out for so long? They're normally pretty good.

Yeah. Interesting. Maybe that's like kind of like tantric, like what tantric sex is all about, right? It's just like just like just making it last for. so long. I don't know. I've heard of other people that have said this. Like I had a guy that once called in and said he went to like a dominatrix girl, right? And he would just go through like an hour or two hours with her. But he would never come. And I would always be like, I don't understand that. You know what I mean? It doesn't make any sense. But he was like, no, no, no, you have to

listen to me. Like I, I don't want to like crash there and be like, oh my God, where the fuck am I? What am I doing? You know, why did I do? Why did I do this? Yeah. Like, and he's in a dungeon with this strange lady. Do you mean? And be like, oh my God. you know and so he would want to like right what were you saying porniness goggles are just like beer goggles you know so if you do something you're going to regret you might as well regret it later not in the moment yeah you might as well regret it in the safety of your own home and right while you're around all your comfortable surroundings then if you're in like the weird you know like a fucking dungeon and you just got pegged by a dominatrix because i think that that's what he was doing he was

like getting fucked in the ass by that lady And so, like, maybe if this is like your deep dark secret, right, you don't want to come out of there without those goggles on. Right. But so it's the same thing. Maybe I don't know with you. I mean, you and your friend were never like sort of in denial about it, but you and him both kept it a secret. Did she know that he was by or does anyone else know that is he outwardly by? Yeah, everybody knows he's by.

So your wife knew he was by? Yeah, ever since we were, we and him were friends in high school and then we kind of fell out of touch for a while. and then reconnected through a job we both had, like I said. And we never did anything in high school, but he was openly by in high school even. Oh, did he fool around with your brother, your notorious bisexual brother, your poor brother that got outed in high school? No, no, no. My brother went to a different high school. Oh, okay, okay.

So he, so he, and does your brother know that your by, your, your, your by brother? Oh, absolutely not. Neither. None of my brothers do. How many brothers do you have? I have four. Wow. You had to count. Yeah. I'm the exact middle. Okay. All right. So, um, so wait, so I have so many questions. I don't know which

angle, which direction to go down. So your wife, okay, so she finds out she knows you, she, it's weird that like, of course she was going to bring up this guy right because he's your bisexual friend. I don't know, like, yeah. And did she like believe you when you said, No, because like, what are the odds that you're secretly by? You fooled that one with guys behind her back, but you didn't fool around with your bisexual. She might not believe you. I don't. She might not because she's made comments like she was, like I said, she was surprised that when I said I hadn't.

And she was kind of like, well, why not? Like that seems like the obvious choice. Yeah, that's why it's like, at first when you first told me that you didn't tell her, I was like, oh, that's a smart move because it's a friend. like now that I know that he's like outwardly by and everyone knows and he's your really good friend you know she probably knows like it just doesn't make sense that you it makes way more sense that you did like two plus two equals four and you're trying to tell her two plus two equals five and she's just like it doesn't fucking understand I did tell her that he knows you know I did I did tell her that he was my friend that I could talk to about it right he was in the same boat but I just

told her, you know, like, I didn't want to try to mess up the friendship kind of thing. And when she, when she asked you why had you never fooled around with him, what was your reason? I know what a good reason would have been to say. I want to see if you said it. What did you say when she said, why didn't you fool around with him? Did you give her a reason? Yeah, I told her it was because I didn't want to mess up the friendship we had between each other. But the real reason was because I didn't want her to be jealous. Right. Yeah. I would say like, yeah, tell her, like, listen, it's like, it's weird to pull around with my friend.

Like I don't get horning for it. Like it's like because it's not a romantic. You know what I mean? Like I think that might be a good thing, right? To say that would make her maybe under. Because like, okay, she's by now too, right? And she kind of wants to, you know, sort of figure out that part of herself, right? And she's looking for a girl.

Now, has she ever fooled around with any of her girlfriends? Never. Right. Why not? None of them are by. Oh, well, if any of them were, would she want to? I don't think so Exactly

So you have to like let her know that that's the same thing for you Even though it's not Do you know what I'm just helping you with the lie To make her make them Because she's probably gonna bring it up again Because I know I don't like fucking liars And that what you would like I wouldn't believe you And she probably doesn't believe you

And you want her to trust you do you understand So if you're gonna lie My whole point is if you're gonna lie Lie good okay And you have to lie like the truth Like because most people know when you're fucking lying. And it just seems a little odd

and she probably doesn't buy it. But she like, okay, it's four months later, right? And now you guys are like, are you still looking like, has she kind of moved past it at all? Or does she still question you or bring it up? Is it like open on the table now that you could fool around with guys?

Like what did it, after you told her about the people and you got specific, right? Then what did you guys discuss? Like did she ask you if you want to, did she say you could continue to fool around with guys? like what was the deal on that end? Yeah, she actually did. She said she didn't really have a problem with it because I, you know, I kind of explained to her.

And it's not like I'm not cheating with another woman because she satisfies every need I have that way. Right. But, you know, and I told her, I was like, you can peg me and it feels fantastic and it's way more intimate. But, you know, any woman knows that a dildo doesn't feel the same as the real thing. Right. exactly, uh-huh. And she completely understood. And it's actually kind of,

it kind of is given her, she, she did, she does tease me about it sometimes. In what sense? Like for example. Yeah. One of the one night stands I had was a Middle Eastern guy.

Mm-hmm. And it started out really good. And I started giving him a blowjob. and he literally just repeated, oh, yeah, oh, wow. How many times, like, over and over? Continuously, like, it was on a repeat track. And then, like, even when he switched to me being the bottom, he still, it was an hour long of him just saying that over and over again.

It totally ruined the whole thing for me. Yeah, after, yeah, that's a little odd. Yeah, that's distracting. It's distracting. Yeah. And so I, you know, I told her everything except for about the one friend. Yeah, yeah. So she knows that.

And so now, you know, she did it once while she was pegging me. She just whispered in my ear like, oh, yeah, oh, wow. Right. And then if we see a Middle Eastern guy when we're out in public, she'll be like, hey, you want to go get his number or something like that. Oh, right. She'll bring it up, right. Well, listen, it's still fresh in her memory. but I mean she took it pretty good

like you're like you know she took it extremely well you know I was thinking it was being a lot more horrifying to her you know and then she's she's not only given me permission to continue

doing it she's on she's actually kind of pushed me to like you know like the website we were on she was like you should start talking to more guys right and I was confused at first. And so I finally just asked her like, why are you pushing this? You know, like it's never been a thing I have to have all the time. It's kind of just like a, you know, the urge strikes. Yeah. Kind of thing. Yeah. And she she just flat out told me, she was like, I really want you to go get fucked by a guy and then come home so I can peg you so you can tell me I'm better. Oh, interesting. She's like competing with the guy. Yeah. And I was like,

okay you know that was not what I was expecting your answer to be no that's a that's a whole new one for me and I've heard a lot of shit on my podcast I've been doing it for a long time that's so interesting like that's her angle and it would like it like turns her on it would turn it's gonna turn her on absolutely and you know it once she said it and made a lot of sense because when we first started pegging yeah we it graduated into it you know we started with a finger while she was giving me a blowjob and kind of worked up from there. But when we first tried pegging, she was hesitant. You know, she was willing to do it, but she was like, well, this isn't going to do anything

for me. I'm just going to do it for you. Yeah. And then after we did it the first time, she was like, that was really intense. I came twice. Really? Just from pegging you? Yeah.

And we don't even have a vibrating, uh, dildo. Right. So it was just like, how did she even get off? Well, I think the base of it was Stimulating her just right. And just the actions of doing it. She's never been a dominant one in our relationship. And I think that just really did it for her the same way

that being the submissive one does it for me. Right. The role reversal. Yeah, you know, I've had some S&M guys on that it's like they're just like they're very alpha in their work life and they become the, what's the one that gets beaten up, the masochists? You know, the, what's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they become, they're into that.

You know what I mean? It's very common to like that whole reversal, right? Of like whoever you are in your real life to sort of be in your whatever life. So she was switching too, because she's the more passive and then she gets to, and you're the more alpha and then you're switching with sexually as well. Yeah, 100% switch. So she liked it from the get-go. Yeah.

That's interesting. That's great. Yeah. It doesn't make it nice. It's still something I have to talk her into. Like, hey, you know, like maybe we should do this tonight kind of thing. But when she's for it, she's like 100% for it. Yeah, that's totally great.

But let me ask you this. Now, because you, like, you, you know, you introduced pegging. Like first you put her finger up her ass and like, and then you got into the fagging thing. But you must have known before that that you were into things up your ass, right, more than a finger. I'm assuming maybe you pegged yourself or got fucked by a guy in it before her. Like I'm assuming you figured this stuff out long before she came around. And I'm wondering when that sort of started with you. Like did it start when you were by yourself?

When did you first hook up with guys? Like I want all that information. I didn't start hooking up with guys until, oh gosh. I must have been about 20. Uh-huh. But even before that, you know, like in high school was when I really kind of started thinking like that might be something I was into. Let me ask you this when you found out that your brother did it. Were you like a little jealous?

No. Okay. No. No. Because he did it before I kind of started thinking about it. Oh, okay. So when your brother did it, how did you feel about him? I don't feel any differently about him.

Any kind of abuse, I guess you could say I gave him was just because he was my brother. Right, right, right. It didn't have anything to do with what he was doing. It was just, I found something embarrassing. I can't let him live it down, you know? Right. But it didn't trigger in you that's sort of part of you at all just yet. At that point, you hadn't even realized that that was something maybe you'd like.

Yeah. When I was younger, especially. My dominant attraction was definitely feet. Right. And it didn't start, like I said, until I was about 20 that I started thinking about it. And I've always had a thing for older guys also. Like how old? Like what, like really old?

Not late 30s, 40s. And how old were you when you like late 30s and 40s? When I liked that? Yeah, like what was, yeah. Like, because listen, if you're 19, 40s is. really fucking old. If you're 35, it's not that old. Yeah, it was when I was 20. Up and even until now, I'm almost 30 now.

And that's still my preference. So you just like older? Yeah, I like an adult, I guess. Not somebody I perceive as still being a kid. Right. And I, I think it goes back to like how you like to feel. you want to be dominated, right? How are you going to be dominated by a kid?

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think that's exactly what it is, which I think was one of the reasons it was, she might buy the whole thing that my friend and me never did anything because he's two years younger than me. Oh, interesting. So he's the youngest guy I've ever been with just compared to my age. But let me ask you this.

How do you feel like you, I guess because you're being dominated when you, you're blowing somebody that is like the more passive position, right? Because you're pleasing the person and you're not being pleased, right? That's why that's, you don't mind just blowing people as opposed to getting blown, right? Is that a part of that whole thing? Oh, yeah. It's like, it makes it sound weird, but it's almost like being used. And that aspect is attractive to me. You know, like, yeah, I'm just, I'm being used for their enjoyment and that kind of gets me going. No, that's a, that's a perfect way to describe it because that really when you cut through all the bullshit that's really what it's about right that's what's really getting you horny and i think a lot of people might think it's other things but

really that's what it is right in that kind of in that type of scenario and i think people have that kind of fantasy sometimes there's something hot about that right women and men feel that way i think and that's like a fantasy kind of a thing right yeah um so you like to just do that and be used and abused and then you go home and then you take care of yourself um and that exactly and so So that's why with that friend, even though he's younger than you, it works. Yeah. Right. And so now, so you started off.

I don't even care about your fucking foot fetish yet, okay? Because I'm still stuck up. This stuff is so interesting. So you know that you're into feet when you're really younger, right? And everything. But like, so what happens at 20 that you start to figure out you like things up your ass? Um, I don't, I don't know exactly what it was that triggered it. I think I was just kind of in the shower pulling around.

and I was like, I'm going to try something. And what did you start with, like, a finger? Yeah. Okay. And you like it. Yeah. And then I eventually moved on to just a normal standard size vibrator. And where did you find that?

You ordered it? It was my girlfriends at the time. Okay. And did she know where you did you do it with her? No. She never found out. Oh, I wonder how many of my girlfriends have used my things. I never even thought of that.

Well, if they're courteous, they at least washed it. Before and after. Yeah. So you took your girlfriends that you would use on her and you started using it on yourself. Yes. And you loved it. Yeah, it was nice. Yeah, you know, I just like, listen, I've always liked anal play.

I was always a three-up girl, right? And I always felt like, oh, my God, like, I mean, my asshole is no different than a guy's asshole. Like, right? All assholes are made the same, right? I mean, I don't know what it's like to get a dick sucked, right? And just like you wouldn't know what it's like to have someone go down on you. You're not a woman, right? So I can't understand that.

But we both have the same thing when you're talking about that input, right? So I'm always like if it feels so good to me, any kind of ass play, right, at certain times. Like, why wouldn't it feel good to a guy? And it's like so hard sometimes to talk guys until at least trying it. You know what I mean? Well, they just assume it's going to make them gay. Yeah. And if they could get past because it's just in their mind because physics,

right there's so many sort of nerve endings there and if you're really turned on and it's like at all the stars like because it's not like you're horny there all the time right it's not like i don't know i've never been the type that wants ass plague constantly right but every on then like when you do it though and you're in the mood it's really fucking good right and it's like really intense um and i think if guys could just like lean back and relax and try it i think personally what i've always thought is like there's a lot more guys maybe they're that are doing it and maybe they're doing it privately. I don't know, but they're just afraid to admit it. Because, like, how comes guys didn't do what you did in the shower and just like, let me see what it feels like. Right. Right. And then if you see what it feels like, most of the time it feels good, right?

I mean, yeah. So, you know, so maybe there's more guys out there that actually like it than they admit, but I think that there's still a lot of guys that think, like you said, it's like it makes them gay or whatever. Well, you know what this old saying is if it hurts or if it doesn't feel good, you're doing it wrong. Right. Or you're just not doing it at the right time, but nobody is going to put their finger up their ass at the wrong time. You know what I mean? A lot of times the reason why people get turned off to anal is because they're doing it with a partner.

This is why girls don't like anal. Okay. It's because they're doing it with a guy and the guy's like you want to do anal and she's like, yeah. And he's like so excited. He just shoves his dick in her ass. You know what I mean? Because he's like fun. You know.

And it's like, that's not what you do. That's not how you do it. You definitely need preparation and technique. Exactly. And so the reason why I always liked it is because I was always like a super aggressive person and I never felt bad talking up during sex. So I would always like control the dick. I took the dick in my hand and I worked it into my ass on my terms, on my timing.

Do you know what I mean? And like I made it happen the way it was supposed to happen and everything. And that's what women need to do, you know? and then it happens. But if a guy, a guy doesn't know what it feels like, right? So he's like you want anal. So he puts his dick in your ass.

And that's not the way that it goes, right? But if you're playing with yourself, right? And you could feel how it feels, right? Then you know that you got to go slow and how you do it. Right. And so you understand that. Right. So basically that's when I would be having anal.

I was basically doing it myself just using someone's dick to do it, you know? But like my hand was controlling it. Right. You know what I'm saying? so that it would be the right, it would happen right. And I think that a lot of people get turned off to anal because they have a bad experience like that.

And if someone just shoves something inside your ass, before you're ready and totally loose and really turned on, it is, does not feel, yeah, it feels really fucking bad, right? It's not the way that it should happen. So I'm just trying to say to people in a very long-winded way that more people should give anal play, a chance, right? Especially men.

The proper chance. Yeah, the proper chance that it deserves. Because it's not a bad thing. It is a good thing. Like, you found that out. Like you, one finger and then two fingers. And then I tell, you know, and then you're like, oh, let me get my girlfriend to fuck me in the ass. And then that felt good.

And then. But so when you're 20 and you get the finger, right? Like, what happens first? And then you use your girlfriend's thing. So you never, did you ever let a girl do anal stuff to you? or do you jump right into guys? Like, what was the first time that you started anal

with like another person, right? It would have been right to a guy. And so how did, what was that first experience like? That would be the Middle Eastern guy that kind of ruined it for me for a while. Oh, you're kidding?

That was your first one? Yeah. Oh my God, that's so funny. But where did you meet him? Craigslist. You did? So you start to, so you're playing with yourself. You're totally into like,

stuff getting into your ass and you're just like you decide, you figure out that you probably want to be with a guy and you decide to go on Craigslist and did you go looking for an ad or did you place an ad? I honestly don't remember. I know I was looking at a lot of ads,

but I can't remember if I actually posted one myself or not. Well, did you post so many that you can't remember if that happened that time? I mean, I think you would remember whether you posted an ad or not. Did you ever post ads? Yeah, I've definitely, I've posted ads before, but that's what I'm saying.

I don't remember. remember if it was because he responded to an ad or if I had found his. So you had posted, so you did start posting ads, you were looking at ads like you wanted to get with a guy. Yeah. Okay. And so you meet up with this guy. How old was he at the time and how old were you? I was, I was maybe 22. And do you know how old he was? He was old. He had to be at least early 30s. Okay. And so where did you meetup, do you start exchanging like dickpicks first? Like, how does it work when you're just like hooking of two guys hooking up? It's, that's, I know we exchanged pictures, but I kind of think it was more for him because he just wanted to make sure we didn't know each other. Right, right, right.

And it wasn't, it wasn't, not necessarily for me. And then it was, it happened pretty quickly. I want to say we started talking one day and then the next day I went over to his apartment. Right. Okay. And like was he doing it on the download? Like was he married or like whatever? Or was he gay?

Like did you know his deal? I want to say he was married and his wife was out of town visiting family. If I recall correctly. Yeah. I can't tell you how many times guys on this podcast tell me that their wives go away for business or to visit family than the shit that they do. I mean, if I was a wife, I would never leave home without.

my husband because the shit that guys do when they leave the house oh my god um okay so you go over to his house is right there and then this guy ruins the whole thing right but like did you did you even were you even able to come that time did you blow him like what happened in that scenario what took place so so i ended up blowing him yeah for a while and then he was like all right are you ready to roll over you know and i was laying on his bed and i was laying on his bed and i was I was like, well, yeah, sure, let's do this. So I get on my stomach, he gets behind me, gets all lubed up. And he didn't have a huge dick, and it wasn't, but it wasn't small.

You know, it was a decent size. Yeah. But I don't, I don't think he ever fully made it in. Really? He kind of, yeah, he kind of just jackhammered behind me. And it, you know, I could definitely tell, like, he definitely penetrated me numerous times, but it wasn't a consistent he was in the whole time. And then after a while of that, he just rolled off onto his back and started jacking off and then came on my leg.

That's so weird. Like he couldn't get, yeah, like, that's weird. Yeah, and I couldn't, I didn't know what to say, you know, and because he just kept saying, oh, wow, oh, yeah, over and over again still. And I just kept quiet and kind of just let him do his thing. And then, you know, wipe my leg off. And I was like, all right, well, I got to go now. Oh, my God. His poor wife.

Imagine she's got to listen to that shit every time they have sex. I mean, he probably just goes into a zone and that just comes out. He probably doesn't even know he does it. Probably. No wonder she was off visiting family. She was probably cheating on him. Someone else that doesn't talk, you know. Okay.

was your first and then was it like such a letdown or was it still good because it was like you did something you finally like sort of popped your cherry with guys and then like when was the next time you're with a guy it definitely helped with my nerves on contacting people yeah but it did kind of turn me off of it for a while i don't think i tried to seek anybody else out for almost a year right really yeah and i i i just because deep like I understood logically like well it's not going to be like this every time yeah yeah the same time I was just like that just did not even close to live up to what I built it to in my mind you know yeah yeah disappointing and then that's about the time that I reconnected with my buddy and then he actually kind of started it because he's into uh jacking off next to another guy like not necessarily any kind of contact between them but just both watching porn jacking off yeah yeah i've heard of that uh-huh and i gave it a shot it's not really my thing you did it with him yeah a couple times because i thought like well maybe i'll start getting into it and it's just it never really was

my thing and so one time you know he kind of just pulled his dick out and was like hey let's do this and i was like how about i just give you a blow job instead but wait how does it go like so when you reconnected with your friend, did you say, because he was openly by and you knew this, right? But you had never been openly by. So he didn't know that you were. Like, how did it come up that you had? Like, did you say, oh, by the way, I've been fooling around with guy, like I fooled around with a guy? Like, how did it even come to be that, you know, it was okay that you guys were going to jerk off together? Well, we would, when started out, we were just drinking. And then, you know, we would be like, oh my God, I seen this crazy thing in a porn once. Like, you got to see it. And then we'd like,

show each other things we had seen before. And then he kind of just looked at me and was like, you want to jack off together? Right. And I was like, yeah, I guess. You know, why not, right? Yeah. That was just kind of how it started.

And then the time when he whipped his dick out to start jack him off and how about I just give you a blowjob instead, are you, are you serious right now? Are you fucking kidding me? you know like yeah yeah let's do that you know yeah he was like all this time i've been wasting jerking off when you could have been blowing me right and so you blew him and then and did he ever blow you your friend no he's never blown me before so what's his deal with guys is he a total just he just likes to be blown he's like the opposite of you no he's like uh he's a hundred percent verse like he

He doesn't care who he's doing it with or what he's doing as long as it feels good. What does that mean? Like he could be top, bottom, anything? Yeah, he can be a top or a bottom or getting blown or blowing a guy or eating a girl out. It doesn't matter as long as everybody's having a good time. It's what he's into. So how come he's never blown you because you don't want him to blow you or you don't care to be blown? Because you don't want to come.

Just because I don't care for it. Right. I guarantee he would if I ever asked him to. Yeah, yeah. But I never asked, so he's never tried. Did you ever make out with him? Did I ask you that question already? Yeah, we have.

Right. And that's cool. Do you do it all the time? No. It kind of just happened. I think we did it the first time right before he topped me. And then we did it once. Like, I had my head hanging over the edge of the edge of.

the bed and he kind of pulled out and then came down and kissed me and then went back to it. Right. So, right. Okay. I get it. Do you swallow by the way? Yeah. Okay.

I don't say. What's the point of doing it if you're not going to swallow? Yeah. I've always been a swallower. Is that what it's called? Like a swallower? But I'm like, I never understood what it, what do you do if you don't swallow? Like, do you spit?

Do you move away? Like if you put it in your mouth and then run to the bathroom? Like, what do people do? they don't swallow. I don't understand. Well, you're already getting the pre-cum, so you're already tasting it. And I guess my understanding with women I've been with in the past,

because it's always been a texture thing. Yeah, but what do they do when they don't swallow? If I would come in their mouth, they would spit it into a towel or something. We would just have a towel by. Oh, okay, right, right. So they let you come in their mouth. They don't pull away, and then they let you do the whole,

and then they just spit out. Yeah, because you know what? I think, like, if you just let it sit in your mouth, right? And you do that, it's almost worse. I think so, too. That's why I just swallow it. Yeah, as it's happening, I think we need to teach people how to swallow, too, right? Yeah.

Because you don't just like let it all just sit in your mouth and then it's like a big, gooey mess. And then you're like to drink it. That's fucking gross. Kind of, right? I mean, like, that's not how it works, really, when you swallow. No. But I mean like if they let all that jizz go in their mouth and then they're just like, oh, it's, I mean, it's not, I mean, who comes that much anyway? But anyway, let's get back to you. So you, so that guy, when he fucked you want, he only just got on top of you once? Twice. Twice. And was it not that memorable that you don't really do it more than that? Or like, what's your deal? Because you get pegs so much at home. It's not that big of a deal for you? no it's it's not that it wasn't great uh he's he's not super well endowed and so it's it's great for giving

him a blowjob especially you know if like we do something like me hanging over the bed or whatever you know but it wasn't giving me the penetration that i wanted for the position that he likes to do it in what position does he like to do it in he likes to do it in doggy style, so I would be on my knees and like on my elbows or something. Uh-huh. Where I always felt like bent over something while standing or if I'm just laying flat on my stomach and they're just on top of me, always I feel is a better penetration. It hits the spot better for me anyways.

Right. But he doesn't want to do it that way. Yeah, that's not the way he's into doing it. Interesting. So you've only done it twice with him. both of you are on a different page when it comes to that. Yeah. Now, did he, did you tell him that your wife found out?

No. Shoot, I don't, I think I, I did tell him that she knows that I'm by now, but I don't think he knows that she knows we've been together either. But she doesn't know that you've been together. Right. So I told him that I didn't tell her. So, yeah. She doesn't know, right?

No, she doesn't know. Right. He knows, though, that your wife knows that you're by now and you're open. Now, have you found any guys in the past four months now, now that, like, it's on the, you know, you could do it and she wants you to go get another guy. Have you been with any guy since? There's one guy I'm talking to, but it hasn't led to anything yet. Let me ask you this, though, because you did say, you know, that drive home from your friend's house, you know, a part of the sort of a big part of, right, the turn on is that you just did something that, nobody knows about and it's naughty.

You know, it's that whole sort of thing. Now, your wife now knowing and wanting you to do it and then come home and like, does that take away from it at all for you? Or do you think it just is going to add to it because then you're going to come home and like relive what you just did and get to like come with her as opposed to jerking off in the shower? I think, I don't think it's going to take anything away from the drive home. but I think

finally reaching release with her I think we'll make it better Yeah and I think maybe Because I've heard from other couples Who like wind up Fucking other people And then they come home And they say a big part

They have like the best sex After they've been with other people I've heard that time and time again So I have a feeling If it if it's what happens to most people It's like you're gonna be able to go Would be with somebody else And then you're gonna come home

And the sex with her is gonna be really good Because you didn't typically do that, right? You weren't typically coming home from being with another guy and releasing with her. And plus it was a secret thing. So now that you could be open about it, maybe talk about it, you know what I mean? And maybe have, because you like to be used, right? So like you're used by one person. Then you go home and your wife's going to use you more than that.

But like it might just be like what you've been always fucking waiting for. Like it might be even better than, you know, having it be a secret. In a weird way, right? Oh, probably, yeah. It's one of those waiting kind of see things, I guess. Yeah, you got to get that you got to hook it up with that guy that you're talking to. Has she met any girls yet? No, she hasn't.

Well, listen, I think you're really lucky that your wife is super cool about it. I mean, like, you know, she's allowing you to be with other people. She's going to start, like, she's never been with another girl yet? No, not yet. Right. So she's waiting. Um, she would like, I think like some people could have been like that could have been like grounds for divorce. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. Like for sure. Yeah. It could have been really bad. Yeah. Are you surprised or are you just know your girls that way? Like is it more like that she's just super open minded and like you guys have a really good relationship like. It's definitely.

She really is open minded as long as you can lead her to it, I guess. she never she doesn't generally have you know like kinky or freaky ideas on her own but when they're presented to her she's normally for it right and she tried it look she didn't think that she was into the pegging thing but then she like came twice and she totally was and that's like great it goes to show that sometimes if you just try something like she did it for you i feel like i had another guy on who said his wife did it for him and then realized she like liked it over time, you know. So that just lets people know, especially women out there that maybe have husbands that want to try things. Like sometimes maybe just try it or even vice versa, right? Like sometimes it's

good to just try things out or do it for the other person if that's what your partner wants to do, right? Because sometimes over time or immediately, it could be something that you like. You just don't know, right? I think that's good advice for just a relationship in general, not even just for sex. Right. Exactly. Well, we're talking about sex, right? Yeah. in a relationship. I mean, that's a good advice for like the sex part of,

especially long-term relationships, right? Because that's where people start cheating and stuff because like maybe, you know, things get a little boring or whatever, you know, and I just feel like,

and it's a lot of times it's because some, you know, a partner is into something and they can't tell their partner because they don't think their partner's going to be into it. But if people were more open,

right, and more able, you know, I think it would free up that communication. I mean, you guys are pretty open with each other. that you were, you were, you know, felt comfortable enough to let her know about the stuff that,

you know, the finger and like you let her into that and then even the pegging that you could go there with her. And then she was like sort of comfortable enough to tell you that she was into being with girls. I think that that, you know, is, is good too that she felt comfortable because that was probably something maybe that she had kept inside her for a really long time. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I mean, we, we had never talked about it before. I want to say, once we really talked about it, it kind of became obvious, you know, because she gets kind of flirty with women when she's drinking.

But I know other women that do that also that claim to not be by. Right, but maybe they really are. Yeah. Right. So did she ever like make out with girls when she was drunk, like that whole thing? Oh, yeah. She would, but she never took it any farther than that?

Yeah, never got any further than that. Right. So it's like, oh, girl crush, girl crush this, girl crush that. But I'm always like, you know, what's a girl crush? Like, do you want to go down on a girl? Like, that's what it really means to be by. Like, is that what you really? Right.

You know, like, is that what you really want to do? But I think a lot of girls sometimes don't want to cop to that. But, you know, like you're, but maybe because they don't really want to admit it. But that's really what it is to be bisexual, right? Like you would think or I don't know. Oh, yeah. And so. Yeah.

It's not just about like, oh, we're going to. to kiss and hold hands, it's the whole deal. Yeah, it's the real deal. So she was able to sort of, like, admit to you, like, that she really wanted to do that real deal. I mean, and so that's cool. So you guys have, like, a really good relationship. Do you, like, what's your deal with the foot fetish aspect in her? I mean, we have, like, five minutes, 10 minutes left to talk about your foot fetish. I don't care about your foot fetish. I cared so. This was such a great, interesting whole thing about your being bisexual. Because, you know what, like, I feel like you could talk to like a million people about the same topic or like so many you know in every specific

story is just like different and so many different ways you know what I mean like I've had other guys whose wife have found out that they're by or other guys that you know and just plays out in such different ways and each story is so unique and this one is so interesting on so many different levels you know but you said that you did have the foot fetish thing was like your your thing like from very early on. What was the deal with you with feet very early on?

Well, it started even before it was a sexual thing. I can remember being a kid maybe five or six years old

and liking to pretend to be like a footstool. Really? Oh, yeah. And then as I got, as soon as I hit

puberty, that's when it started, you know, piquing my interest in that way. And I actually have a, some good stories in that aspect as well if you wanted to do another call sometime.

You mean like you could fill up a whole hour of that kind of shit? Probably. Yeah, I think maybe we should because it's very different than my other color, right? That's the whole other thing about fetishes too. Like people, I've had so many Panihos guys and each one was different extremes, right? Like you had like, oh yeah. And that's what, so I guess feed is the same thing as what you're trying to tell me. Oh, absolutely.

And mine has evolved over time. You know, I think the last guy talked about, he kind of explained what a foot job was. Yeah. And when I was younger, you know, I'd have girlfriends that would let me do it, you know, and I was all about it while I was younger. But once I got older, it's not about that anymore. It's more about, I kind of like to just feel them softly,

just on my body in general. Right, like all over. Let me ask you this, because I want to save all of the foot stuff for our part two, foot fetish. Yeah. One, you know. But since we're talking about you being by, does your foot fetish, is it just for women's feed or is it women's feet? Or is it women's feet? Yeah, it's always been for women's feet up until just recently.

Oh, interesting. In the last couple of years, I started watching, I know it's not the politically correct term, but I started watching trains. porn. Uh-huh. Because it's the best of lesbian porn mixed with penetration still. Right. Right. And then it kind of just like, well, I'm also in defeat.

So I guess I wonder if there's like a cross between the two. Mm-hmm. And there was. And so now it's not necessarily like what you would consider a typical man's foot, you know, where it's not taken care of and it's hairy and stuff like that. But it's a man's foot that looks pretty. Yeah, it still does it for me. Right.

But like a regular man's foot, like a real man's foot, would that do for you? No. No. Okay, interesting. So you're just starting off on your bi sort of foot fetish. Yeah. I don't know how we can put those two together, but we don't need to because we're going to split up your, uh, this podcast, right? This one was all about you being by, you being caught being by. The good news is

that story ended fine. I mean, like, as of now, like she's okay with it, right? Like, you guys have moved on. You're looking for guys. She's still looking for girls and everything's fine, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're lucky. I think that that's great. And how great is it for you to finally have that sort of secret off your back? Does it feel like a weight has been lifted? it wasn't like an immediate weight you know because i was kind of on edge for a couple weeks after she found out because i wasn't sure like she seems fine now but is it all going to blow up yeah yeah yeah totally too good to be true like how is this not going to have any ramifications right but as time goes on and she really is giving me the impression that she's 100% okay

with it. And as she continues to do that, it is really like a, oh, God, I have somebody to fucking talk to about it now. Right. And does she, do you talk about it a lot to her? Does she still feel the need to sort of just like ask you questions every now and then? Is she still wanting to talk about it? They're becoming more and more infrequent, but I think it's as she, you know, finds things out. She doesn't, she never really asks for a lot of specific details, you know, like, what position do you like it the best or anything like that. It's more of a, you know, it was more of a lot of like, well,

what is it you look for? Like, what is it you're interested in? Like, what kind of guy do you like kind of thing, you know? Right, right, right. And was she very at first, like, just wanted to make sure, like it was definitely not with women. Like, you had never cheated with women? No, she never even asked.

No? No. But you never cheated on women with her? I have with feet. Oh, okay, well, that's, see, that's in the other podcast. It's very easy to separate these two, right? Because you haven't cheated on her regular, like with feet, but with feet you have. Okay, so, well, but she know about your foot fetish? She absolutely knows about my foot fetish.

She takes advantage of it. Okay, we'll get to that. Okay, so interesting. All right, well, I think, you know, four months out, I think you're starting to get in the clear. You just don't know. I don't know your wife's personality. do you know what I mean? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Like, everybody's different, right? And everybody, like, sort of works through things in a different way, you know? Right. You know her, right? So, you know, there is a certain personality type that it could come delayed, you know? Well, yeah.

I don't know. That's why I was worried because, like I said, in our relationship, she's definitely the submissive one. She kind of just goes with the flow of what I'm doing. Yeah. And she's definitely like a yes man. She's a people pleaser. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. And so I was really concerned like, well, I really hope she's not just going with this. Yeah. Yeah. For you. I don't want her to fester on it and boil on it later, you know. So I would bring it up and talk to her about it just to. Yeah.

Smart. Make sure nothing wasn't sitting below the surface. Right. And she would talk more. I think that that's smart. And I think you should keep that. conversation open and stuff to help her because if she's a people pleaser and she's that way, she probably doesn't, she loves you.

You have a good marriage, right? You guys, like everything else is so good. She doesn't want to lose everything for this. She probably really wants it to be okay. Maybe if there is a chance that on some level it's not okay with her yet, you know, I think just keeping the lines of communication open and still talking about it and letting her know that she could ask you any questions and you're going to be completely. I think that's fine.

And I really, I don't know because you lied to her about the friend. I wish you would have told her the truth about the friend if that was the, I don't know, because you don't want her, I don't know, but maybe she's very different for me. My personality type, because, like, I just, like, like, I said, like, it would make no sense that you didn't feel around that friend, but you're telling me that you didn't, and I probably would, it would be very hard for me to let that go. And then I think he's lying to me more like my, it would be a trust thing, you know? you don't want her to like feel like she can't trust you that you're a fucking liar you know it's one thing that you like guys and she's okay with that but she doesn't want to be like no one wants to be with someone that's a liar right so you want her to just have that be a past thing you don't want her to start of start questioning everything you fucking say right she's not acting like that with you right no because you came clean with her i do fully intend you know like me and him haven't done anything

for a while now. So it's probably like a we're about due kind of thing, you know? I do fully intend like the next time something happens between him, I will tell her that it happened then. Okay, but then when she says, but you're going to say, oh, by the way,

I just fooled around with that guy. That's so ridiculous. But you know, maybe she'll believe you. No more secrets from here on out, you know. Yeah, that's smart. make it even worse. Yeah, there's no, there's no more. You don't want to, because then you don't want to just be a liar.

You know what I mean? Like, it makes sense that, you know, like, I think somebody could understand, okay, like, this was something you didn't feel comfortable telling me. So you had to lie about it. But now that I know about it, you know what I mean? If you still lie, then you're, you're worse. You're a fucking liar. And I think there's nothing worse than that.

Like, big deal, you're into guys, you know, there's, right? But if you're a liar, that's a whole other thing. So, yeah, there's no reason. for you to lie now. And that's good that you're not, you know. But I would eat, like, I don't know. Like I said, anytime she brings up that other guy, say to her, like, it would just be weird, fooling around with him because he's my friend, you know.

And maybe when you tell her that you flew around with that guy, just like start out, like how it started out in real life. Like he just wanted to, I don't know. Like, you have to make it seem real like it's the beginning of fooling around with him. I have told her. already told her about the jerking off that. Oh, you did? Yeah, I, I, I, wait, I can't hear you. Her, you know, we, wait, wait, you cut out for a second. Wait, you told her? Yeah, I did, I did,

I did tell her about that and I told her, yeah, we jerked off next to each other and he knows I'm by, but we've never done any more than that. Oh, okay, that's great. Oh, okay, that's great. So, yeah, you guys could blow each other, you could blow him now and tell her about it. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Because, okay, so that makes sense. So she did, when she asked about that guy, you did say we just jerked off together,

but we never fooled around. That's what you said? Yeah. Yeah. And she's never, she's never asked about him specifically again since then. Right.

Well, that's believable. I thought you tried to tell her that you didn't fool around with him at all, like nothing. You know what I mean? Like, no, nothing's ever happened

while you guys have been alone with each other till 2 o'clock of the morning. You know what I mean? But you did tell her something. So that's way more believable and that's why she So that's smart. That's great. So yeah, you could

fill around with him in the future and you just have to tell her. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. So I'm happy about that. I think you'll be fine. I don't think if she's a, it's going to ever come out of nowhere. And if she has, have a problem with it and she's a people pleaser, that's her problem and she'll just have you know, that's what, I mean, you know, like she'll eventually resolve it or just forget about it. Do you know what I mean? If she has unresolved feelings about it. But I think through you guys talking and experiencing and her being with women and you know sort of I think that that'll all work like it'll help uh what you did in the past too do you know what I'm saying in a weird way

oh yeah yeah yeah absolutely so you guys will be fine um but we're gonna do a part two about your whole foot fetish thing but this was like a really interesting part one because you know I just had the foot fetish guy in anyway I like this story is really interesting but uh yeah what are you No, nothing. I was just agreeing with you. Yeah. So anyway, thank you for calling in and telling this part of your story. And I look forward to talking here in your next part of your story.

Oh, absolutely. I can't wait to tell it. All right, Andy. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks for calling in. All right. Bye. Bye.

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