Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 214 - Bisexual Chris Keeps his Raunchiest Hook Ups a Secret from his Bisexual Wife

Episode Date: January 22, 2018

Bisexual Chris has an open relationship with his bisexual wife but he keeps the really raunchy stuff he does with multiple guys a secret. What kind of "dirty" stuff does he do with guys behind his wife’s back? Why does he lie to her about it? How did he wind up in an open marriage to begin with? Tune in to find out, plus hear all about his first bisexual encounter while he was in the marines and how that turned into nightly, secret s-e-x with his bunk mate, hear all about his most recent gang bang with a bunch of black guys and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Strictly Anonymous on the Riotcast network, riotcast.com. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.

The temptation is just too much. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your three flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to strictly anonymous podcast with Kathy.

If you want to follow the strictly anonymous podcast on Twitter, follow the show at Cartoon Therapy or me at Cartoon Therapy or the show at Strictanonymous. If you want to be on the show, send me an email at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com or send go to my website strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on be on the show you could buy my book I wrote a book it's like and I wrote and drew a book and I don't write or fucking draw but I did both of those things and I turned it into a book and I sell it on Amazon so if you want to buy that book it's like I don't know I think it's a funny book you know my guy doctor guy who's on my show all the time I give him copies all the time and he leaves him on his uh coffee table in his room because

you know he fucks a lot of girls in New York so they're all like there's just always random girls in his apartment. And they all love my book and they all take it and I always have to like give him more. He's like he's like better than Amazon. But it's like a relationship book about all my bad relationships. It's kind of funny and it will make people feel better about their bad relationship. So if you want to buy my book, go to my website, Shooklinonymous podcast.com and click on by the book or some shit like whatever it says in there.

You'll figure it out. Did I say if you want to be on the show? I did. Yeah. The guy who's on my show. Oh, if you can write a review, write a review. If you haven't subscribed to my show, subscribe to my show. The guy who I have on today, he actually emailed me through my Facebook page.

I do have a Facebook page. And he was just like, you know, his name is Chris. And he talked all about like the really, like, kinky sort of naughty things that he does with guys on the side. And he's married. And I didn't know going into this call whether like this was a secret life or something that he did while his wife knew. and so we talk all about that. And it turns out that his wife does know, okay? Because I have to sort of say that now.

That doesn't ruin the whole story because we talk about like how, you know, that open relationship with his wife because he has an open relationship with her, how that started, how that works out between them. And we get into all the kind of things that he does with guys and all the stuff that he did with guys before he met her after he met her. And then we talk a lot about because this is what I was most interested about because He does a lot of like really dirty things like orgies and trains quote unquote gang bangs. Maybe not orgies.

Like maybe gangbangs are called with lots of guys and bathhouses and does stuff like that. And that he keeps private from his wife. And that's what I was like, that's a little interesting to me because like, you know, he's got this wife where he's got an open relationship. She knows he sleeps with guys yet. He keeps the real raunchy stuff to himself. And I try to get to the bottom of that on the show besides, uh, uh, And besides that, we talk all about like the specific things he does, like when he had his first buy experience, you know, all that kind of stuff. So I think that this intro is very confusing, but I don't have time to redo another one. So I'm just going to post this shit. And maybe nobody listens to the intro anyway. Do you know what I mean? And they just like fast forward because I do that when I listen to podcasts. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Chris. to anyone?

Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Uh, hey, Chris, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. You're on with me, Kathy.

How you doing today, Chris? Well, I'm great. Nice to talk with you, Kathy. Yeah. So, Chris, you wrote into the show. You're a listener, right? And you have, like, a lot of really interesting stuff going on. And because you emailed me through Facebook, like, there's your picture and your shit.

Like, normally I don't know anything really about my people. Like, as far as, like, sometimes people try to send me pictures and I don't look at them. But, like, you know, they send me their story. And I know your story. And you have a lot of stuff that you do with guys on the side. But I'm just wondering, is it a secret thing that you do? Because I see that you're married. Right? So I'm just wondering if all the things that you told me that we're going to talk about

is on the down low and a completely like secret life that you have or is this like an open relationship? Like what's the deal? Well, we've been open in the past and I'd say right now we're about 50-50. My wife and I are both bisexual and she's got a girl that she's had a relationship, physical relationship and friendship with for several years. And she knows I'll once in a while play with some friends or a co-worker here and there. But the kinkier stuff, the group sex, the more anonymous, the dirty stuff I do keep to myself. How come that's so interesting. Yeah, because I was thinking like, oh, okay, so she does know.

Because you have put some of the, you put that kind of stuff more in your email, right? Like the stuff that you've done recently. And, but so she doesn't know about the stuff that you talk, that we're going to talk about that you told me in your email. But like, how come there's like, what's the difference? Like, if she's so cool and open about everything and knows like that you're that way, like, why, like, draw a line and become, like, secreted at a certain point? Like, what was the, why? I'd say the, I could sum up with depravity. She's not a fan of group sex or even really threesomes.

We've had one, and it was fun. We both had fun, but it wasn't something that she really got off on, having her friend and me there. And so I chose not to really push it or the amount of worry that would come with me meeting up with a group of men or going to a bathhouse in a larger city. So I do spare her that. And, you know, of course, be safe of everything I do. But the more deprave, I'm not sure if she would think less of me or more. You know, our marriage is based on absolute love. And a lot of honesty, I think, considering that she, like, knows that you're by, you know that she is.

You're allowed to be with other people. Is that right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And so she knows that you're with guys. She just doesn't know whether you're with multiple guys. Like, is that what it is? Is that different?

As far as she knows, I have one or two friends that I play with. One lives out of town. So when we go home to where we both grew up, it's kind of expected I'll go out with him for a night and mind out at his place. And not go home. And she knows exactly where you are. Yeah. And, you know, with complete understanding, of course.

And occasionally my paths in my line of work will cross with another buddy of mine who's got the same interest as I do. She knows I'll play with him when we do have training opportunities together or like I said, our paths cross on a professional level. So,

I'd say as far as she's aware, two or three consistent partners, and this has been a years-long friendship and arrangement with those two guys. But it's the more anonymous, more frantic, more

group thing gritty group stuff that I do spare her from the details and now let me ask you that that's that raunchy group thing all those guys that stuff has that been going on for a lot longer than a year yes

oh yeah okay let me get a little yeah no what were you going to say well I've been into that stuff the more I don't want to say bondage but definitely the group stuff that raunchy stuff for

almost as long as I've known I like guys. Right. Okay, so that's where I wanted to go. I wanted to go like really back in time to when you first realized that you were by, right? Like you're just very by, right? You know you like women. You know you like men. And when did you figure out that you were bisexual?

Do you have a, like, do you remember? I do. And the first encounter with the guy, you know, just like the girl on prom night remembers every detail. Right. You know, I've been watching a lot of porn like all young men do and through high school and all that. And when I joined the Army and everything, you know, it's such a masculine culture. And my porn habits, they're always straight, you know. But more and more I was envious of the women being able to suck these big cocks and taste that come and feel that hot mess on their face at the end. You know, every porn ends in a facial.

Yeah, yeah. More and more I was envious of that. You're just thinking, I wonder if I could be that, that depraved and that into it. And a buddy of mine in my platoon, the platoon being like 30 guys or so. Him and I live next door to each other in the barracks. We went on a ski trip one weekend. And we got drunk and we didn't have any luck with the ladies. And, you know, just like a cheesy movie, we're drunk in our best.

beds in the hotel room and talking, do you ever wonder what's like to suck a guy, man? Because I'm horny. I need to, you know, I need to get off. Right. So he convinced me, I don't say convinced, he gave me the opportunity. I curled over on his bed and I sucked him off and it was everything I wanted to be. And, you know, I pretended I was one of those girls in porn and, you know, loved every second of it. Mm-hmm. And this was a guy.

How long did you know him for? I had known him for a year and a half at that point probably. Okay. Our friendship really started maybe six months before that. You know, we started going out day trips, hikes and everything, just the two of us. Yeah, less of a group setting and more just me and him. And then it all culminated on the ski trip. Right.

Okay. And so like after that, like, because a lot of times I feel like, and I say this a lot of my podcast, like, and guys, friends of my friends. mine have said this like after they come they're like oh you know they just want to like it's kind of like knocks you back into reality and sometimes you're like what the fuck did I just do or who the hell are you? I'm not interested in you. You know like how did you feel like that first time like the minute you came and like you were back in reality and there you are with a guy as you're like your first like sort of by experience like were you freaked out were you like happy like how do you feel about it?

Confused well I want to say confuse that so cliche. Um nervous of course. Right. Because I sucked him first. He was kind of enough to return the favorites that just tricked me into me giving him a blowjob and him not reciprocating. But it was a long car ride back to the four after that. It was a long, quiet car ride. Right. Definitely hung in the air, you know, the sanction night before.

We both knew we both loved it. Uh-huh. So into it. Yeah. I guess the thing was, where do we go from here? Does that mean we're a couple? old is, are we romantically involved? There was just two guys, you know, hooking up and having fun.

Right, or was it like one just drunk experience and like never going to do that again? How many years ago was this? Like how far back? Again, I'm sorry. That was 11 years ago. I was 19 years old. Okay, so 11 years ago, you're 19. You have your first experience.

You're totally quiet. But then do you guys start doing it all the time? Well, coincidentally, and the stars aligned with this, about a week later, our barracks got shifted around him and I wound up being in the same room. Right. So, you know, barracks, it was two, two bunks, two, like, twin-sized beds, little TV. And we shared a bathroom with another two guys in the room next two hours. So we realized that, you know, we could suck each other off.

We could play around, get off, relax, be ourselves. And then all of a sudden we didn't have to sneak around or worry about if I went to his room and his roommate. came in or if he was in my room my battle buddy came in you know two two guys uninvolved and unknowing what we were up to um so all of a sudden all they do was the locker doors right like 3 a m let's throw on some porn and suck each other off right and we had complete security and safety and you had like hit the lottery both of you guys oh we did oh my gosh it was it was heaven so did you guys just like go to town with each other like every night yeah oh we did uh it was oral for months

because mainly that was where my interest was. Right. And usually I had one of those four-hour-long DVDs from, you know, the $10 ban at the porn shop. Yeah. I was like 100 facials. It was all straight porn. So I'd throw that on and he'd sit there. I'd get on my knees.

I'd crawl up to him and just worship him. And he would just jizzle over your face like that was your thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you think anybody else knew what was going on in that room or were you, pretty much like you did on the down though and no one knew. Or was that going on a lot in the barracks? It's a lot more common than you think.

It's the open secret. Back then, we still had don't ask, don't tell. So if, you know, our platoon leader, a lieutenant, who's honestly only a couple years older than us. Right. Or, you know, NCOs is the more senior guys, more experienced guys. We wanted to make a big deal out of it.

Potentially, we could have faced UCMJ action or been discharged. But how would they do? know. Again, like if we've been walked in on or right, right, right. It could be serious trouble. But, you know, we're both infantrymen. We're an infantry company, infantry battalion. There are no women assigned to that unit. Maybe a medic here and there would rotate in an output, but at the time, no women in our job. Our deployments, we wouldn't see women for weeks on end or men. Right, like you couldn't go off like, whatever, and go to a, bar in the town and see women. It wasn't even like, no, if we got leave, but if we were in the field,

just, you know, stateside hanging out doing our normal nine to five army work, which is more common than not. You know, we could go out to the clubs and girls would be coming back to the barracks and everything. And, you know, there's still plenty into women. So, you know, friends would see me hitting on girls at the bar and we'd be going to a strip club. So that balance, I think, really took a lot of suspicion off of us. But we did get jokes, like how we did. we're best friends. We're always going skiing together and going off by ourselves. Right. And were there other guys? Like boyfriend, but not like, oh, I bet you guys fuck each other or anything like that.

I mean, infantrymen are vulgar, but no direct suspicion as far as I know. But I could be kidding myself. Maybe everybody knew and just insane. But how would they know really, if you really think about it? And how do you know how many of them were doing the same shit? You know what I mean? Like you said, it's probably, it was a lot more common than people would expect, right? So, like, how many of those guys that were saying that were doing the same thing with their bunkumate? Well, when Don't Ask, Don't Tell, did end.

I think I was in 2010 or 2011, all of a sudden, that open secret wasn't even a secret anymore. Right. Tons of people changed their Facebook profiles and finally, like, became themselves, like, some more flamboyant game and, you know, the twinks and everything. And a lot of them were masculine. Like I remember one staff sergeant, he had 12 years in, he was like the older guy in the platoon. Turns out he used fucking this 19-year-old kid, you know, in a different unit, different rank.

Right. Which can still get you in trouble because of the... How did you find out? He was able to say that he was doing that at that time and now it was okay? Like, how did you find out that he was with that 19-year-old? We'd run into couples out in the bars or gone out in town, like more romantic. settings going out to dinner or, you know, the rumor and the gossip like, oh, hey, did you see Sergeant Sucks and Sucks?

Right. Was in the shower with him. And, you know, people were getting caught. It wasn't a big deal. It was the same. If you brought the girl back from the club, privacy is next to non-existent. And so it wasn't really that big a deal. It's like, oh, shit, he's into dudes.

That's cool. Right. But plus the tail end of a deployment. everyone's itchy, everyone's aggravated, just going out of their minds with the testosterone, the culture, the physicality of what we're doing. Yeah, remember my, I think you had just said that you had just listened

to my episode with Buzz. He was a guy, right? That was talked all about what he did, right? While he was in the Army, right? Like all that stuff. And like, I mean, I didn't make it through the whole. Oh, okay. It's okay.

He talked all about what went down in the showers, late at night he kind of like found out like by accident and then would just like go in there and he was saying that like you know because i asked the question like how many people do you think that were otherwise like pretty straight guys but like you know they're sort of stuck in this place they haven't seen a woman in three weeks they can't you know so they wind up letting a guy suck them off do you know and maybe never did it again in their life and just was there like you know i don't know that's been me plenty of times right oh you're straight well shit you're Hard than the shower.

Right. What do you mind? So you've had a lot of those guys. The one-time deal and, you know, it's stretch relief. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, how- Maybe he's better able to focus on his job if, you know, I help him come. Yeah.

Like, I mean, you think about, like, I think guys are so, like, so much, so horny that I'm like, okay, if, like, there's no girls around and, like, it's a guy. Like, even if you're, like, you just close your eyes and think it's a girl. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. Exactly. I think a lot of straight guys would say, oh my God, I would never, but like, I bet you like 50% of those guys would, right? I don't think all of them would. Yeah, especially an over masculine environment like the infantry. You know, it's all this gung-home machismo. Everyone wants to be a ranger. Everyone wants to be a green beret. And, you know, we're working with seals a bunch and the most masculine guys. And so, so wrapped up with the machismo and masculinity is homophobia. But, hey, I mean, a whole.

as a whole, a mouth is a mouth, and eventually nobody gives a damn, I need to come. Right, because it's kind of like probably what happens in jail. Oh, absolutely. Right? Same shit. Obviously, the power dynamic is different. Fortunately, our rank is institutionalized. But, and again, that physicality, that pent up anger and not so much anger, that aggression, the physical aggression.

you get a straight guy who's convinced he's straight but you know he needs to fuck he will go hard he will fuck hard and just but you know it's the aggression he's he's giving your ass is proving how much a man he still is right well let me ask you this because you said that it started out with your friend right in the barracks like you strictly oral for a while and then when i mean are you a top or you're bottom are you like pretty open to everything like when did it switch over that you got into that as well i'm open definitely more about them i've talked before i'm pickier about who i top than who i bought them for and i'd say three or four months it was springtime it was actually right around my birthday i was i was about to turn 20 and

again a drunken night we went out to some chain restaurant a bunch of us like apple bees or something and it was before texting. We were saying little subtle hints and messages towards each other. We went to the bathroom, or I went to the bathroom, the urinal, and he just told me flat out blunt, I want to fuck you tonight. And it'd been, you know, we've been talking about it was like really ho-hum. He was definitely more into wanting to fuck me than I was comfortable getting fuck because for me that was still crossing a big threshold.

And, you know, I knew I love dudes, but it is. is taking a big jump. It is? You know, being fucked and held down everything. Right. So.

That's interesting that guys, because I have had a lot of guys on my show who like even claim that they're straight but like they'll get their dick sucked or they'll only suck dick and they think we get like, you know,

and there is like this difference, I guess that makes a big difference because even like you say, I mean, you're like, you know, totally buy that it was like a big thing for you to let someone like

fuck you. It's stripping away. power. You know, instead of like, I'm on my knees willingly, I'm the one sucking him off, I'm the one stroking, cupping, licking, whatever. But being fucked,

I'm going to be held down and I'm going to be used by this guy. I'm not really going to have a say. Like, I can, you know, if I don't like it or if it hurts, I can tell him to stop. He doesn't have to stop. There's no recourse I can to force him off of him. Yeah, it's so interesting to me, though, as a woman

because it's like women are fucked all the time, right? Like that's what we do. And it's just so interesting how like as a man when you are being fucked, right, and you have that experience. Most men or don't have that, like straight men don't have that experience. But like it you say the way it feels for you or what it is like a power thing, right? Like you lose your power in that situation. And if you really think about it, like that's what women are in all the time, right?

I mean, we don't see it that way. I've never looked at it that way because that's the position I've always. always been. I don't know what it's like to do the other thing. You know what I mean? To be the one. Yeah. But, right? So it's like it's, uh, it is interesting that you, that it comes across that way to you, by being like sort of fucked that you, the power thing. I don't know. That's just a side thing. That has nothing to do with your story. No, no, it's absolutely true. I think it's just as men and our, our gender bound society, you know, from, from day one, we're taught like, we're more in control, were more in charge, the head of the household, the patriarch, all that.

And you forfeit all of that. And you trade roles. And all of a sudden you're being held down and you just like, you know, a toy, an object, a bitch, whatever. A woman. Yeah. No, it's interesting. No, it's interesting.

It's just men into cross-dressing. That's exactly what they're going for. And I salute them all day long. Right. So you and your guys. So he says. And as it turns out. Yeah.

Huh? You've done those two. But wait, so he, I want to get back to the story. So you give you, he says, I want to do this with you and, you know, you decide that you're going to do it. And you go back and that's the first time that you. Yeah, yeah. I did have to get myself pretty drunk. And I'll be honest, I, I remember the sensation, but I was too drunk to know if it felt good or if it hurt.

I know I was way too loud because he kept, he had to put his whole hand in my mouth to give me to shut the fuck up. Right. Because we were in the barracks You know, we did have A total of four neighbors on the other side of us And I was screaming something like fuck me or you know Oh my God, that's why I was like did you guys ever get caught Like you were doing that and no one heard

Don't you think people heard that? If they did, they didn't say shit And you know, I banked them for that You know, it was a Friday night, I think It was the weekend So maybe they were fucking on their own with women or themselves. Right.

They were out at the club still. Right. Okay. So I woke up a mess. Then the next night or a few nights later, I wanted to do it sober. So, you know, strikes myself out in the shower, got ready. And the little nighttime routine we had, I put on that DVD or whatever, we put on porn. Just really, like, delicious-looking, you know, cummy porn.

Instead of sucking him I asked if you'd fuck me again I was ready for it I was sober We had tons of lube And It right then When he was like

Bottomed out with me And we got the rhythm going It's like I saw stars Like oh my God This is it This is you know Everything I need Right and so you loved it

And you became the bottom at that time Oh yeah Yeah I never fucked him Never wanted to If he asked me to I would Right He did have a nice ass

But He never asked you to relationship we had, friendship with sex, oh man, I was addiction and it was perfect for me. And now, how long after that do you meet your wife? Like, I mean, so you're still sleeping with women at that time. You're not confused about your sexuality at all, right? And like you get out, I'm assuming. And then do you meet your wife or you're dating women like a wall?

Did you have other open relationships or was your wife like the first relationship you had after you sort of came out and sort of hooking up with guys? My wife was the first serious relationship I had. about a year after I started hooking up with my roommate and friend. My time was up. I was 21. I did my three years. And I decided to go back to a state school and actually join ROTC. So I was still involved with the Army. I was actually National Guard. So I was the typical young bright-eyed weekend warrior type. Move to the dorms, which is a cheaper option for me.

The Army would pay for housing if I was in dorms. Right. And that was a whole different environment, you know, was completely co-ed and no rules, no, you know, the most authority we had was an RA who was some, you know, dipshit kid even younger than me who had never been in charge of anything before compared to my background. So it was open season for me. But I met my wife. Like how did you meet her? Like in the, in that dorm thing? she's she was there she we met we had a few classes together we had known each other for a while

never hung out we just had similar degrees so a lot of our classes crossed over right um and when we did finally start dating man i'll admit she was a virgin right um not adventurious not you know and half my adventurous spirit just came from being in the military um for probably six or seven months. She knew I was by right away. Had she know, you told her. I did, yeah. She had more religious upbringing,

so I wanted to get that out of the way immediately, just in case I'd be a huge deal breaker. I didn't waste either of our times. But she was open to a... But that's pretty balzy of you. Guys, a lot of guys would keep that on the down low, because maybe a lot of girls would be, like, not into it. Yeah, yeah.

And again, though, if she wasn't into it, I wouldn't want to spend my time with her. If there's judgmental based on like a religious upbringing or the idea of two men, if you think it's wrong, just a homophobia, or if the physical act of actually seeing two guys fuck is gross, you know, that was kind of a deal breaker for me. And it says a lot about the person, how open-minded they are, how free-spirited they are.

That's important to me. Yeah, that's cool. I think it's great that you were able to just be yourself, you know what I mean, from day one. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. And, you know, she was a virgin. She kind of knew, like, she had had girl crushes that were more dynamic than just the typical, like, oh, she's really cute, or, oh, she's such a cool person.

It was definitely on the erotic side, but she had never pulled the trigger on that. So while we dated, you know, she got to learn more about sexuality, bisexuality, the sort of road I went down. Mm-hmm. And, you know, opened up about it. And we didn't sleep together for a long time. Just that wasn't something that she was too keen on. So while I was dating her and building the foundation to our relationship, I backed off the throttle.

Didn't really play around much at all either. I was going to ask, like, were you screwing guys? But you didn't. No, no. Yeah, I wanted to focus on her because I had been on a few dates with a bunch of different women. Most, you know, kind of into the same thing. just like let's, you know, fuck after first date. It was fun and everything for a young kid like me,

but I was kind of getting mentally drained and focusing still on off school. I wanted something more, someone really supportive and that I could relax with at the end of the day and stuff, oh, let's go to this sorority party or let's go out and hit the nightlife. Because being in the National Guard and trying, like, I was a 4.0 student in high school, I wanted to maintain that. It was a lot of work in college, so. is someone that I can lounge with

and not necessarily But I think it more important. Just be with each other and relax. And she was very accepting of your lifestyle even though she was virgin. I think it's kind of weird, like interesting concoction that she was like, here she was somebody that didn't really

polar opposites. Yeah, exactly. That didn't really live out her sexual stuff at all. And there you were doing all your stuff. And she was, you know, the fact that she was open and accepting is, is great considering she hadn't really been that

experienced herself. So eventually I'm assuming you guys have sex. And you didn't, you said you didn't really make your relationship open until recently, right? Or it was open. And then what, like, what was the deal again with you? How did the whole relationship with her sort of, I know, I remember how you said that. Yeah. Man, we've been married two, eight years, seven years, right? Hopefully she doesn't listen to this and realize that I'm not exactly sure. Right. It's okay. And who knows. But we've been together. about eight or nine years. We got married maybe a year, year and a half after we met, or after we started a relationship.

And, you know, we really aged into sex very slowly, very conservatively. And what we did do was great. She was super enthusiastic, really curious to try new things. And we did get married. There was no holds barred and fast and furious. And we got into some light bondage stuff and public sex and, you know, taking videos and sorts of toys and everything. But it was just us.

It wasn't open at this point. But a big hang-up of hers, she knew I liked my ass being played with, and she'd finger me and rim me, and we'd share toys with each other. But I had always been into being held down and fucked hard and rough and all that, very masculine type of stuff.

And she just wasn't into that. she is a rather like fit muscular woman and I mean she's absolutely beautiful but she's always self-conscious like she's got large traps she's got delts like she's got big arms and a lot of dresses that she wants to wear

and the kind of cute little you know army wife or whatever just she doesn't fit that role and she's kind of I want to say worked up about it she's envious of that the more demure woman. So putting on a rubber cock

is just too visceral a sign of masculinity for it to really enjoy. So she wouldn't do that. So the year after we both graduated, we'd been married for maybe two years. I took a year-long job with the National Guard

out of state, working for a different organization. But she had a job at a local bank and she was finishing nursing school. Or, beginning her classes. So she stayed home in the time we went to college in and I went to the next day over. So we were living apart for a while and

we'd see each other maybe every six to eight weeks we'd travel back and forth and take turns busy in each other. I had a shitty little apartment just so he could save money. So I was going back to our hometown a lot more often or our college town a lot more often and came up in conversation that she had been looking at women more and one.

really really grabbed her attention. She was another nursing student like her very athletic and they started going to the gym together and everything and really hang out studying together and all that. So I have pride.

It's like, oh well that's exciting because like every guy, two women fucking is always a turn on. So over the course of a few months we discussed it because she was always wondering like do you miss being with guys because I know I can't give that to you.

She knew I had a huge oral fetish. So we eventually just said, okay, let's open it. We didn't use those words. So you decided to have your first threesome. Let's cut to the chase, right? We opened it. What do you mean you opened it? Oh, that's so that she could go full around with the girl.

Yeah, yeah. She wanted to fuel her friend a bit more. and I wish I could say names would be easier just without her permission. Just say the other girl, right? So she was... Yeah, the other girl. Yeah. So the two of them had, there had been a lot of innuendo, a lot of hinting, and the other girl was a lesbian.

She wasn't curious. She had had dated women before in romantic relationships. And the idea of that was a real big turn on to my wife. Because her friend was a more masculine. I don't want to break it down like bush lesbians and the soft pretty ones, not at all. But she was the more assertive, confident type of woman. And that was an opportunity for my wife to feel more feminine and more. Right.

So she, but let me just ask you this. Because I know that, first of all, you told me that you write erotica. So you're like a storyteller, right? So I just want to get to the good stuff. Okay. Because we only have an hour. And we're like, no, no, no, we're already 30 minutes in. I know about your gang bangs and all these things that I want to get to.

And I like sometimes, I mean, I like the backstory, you know, but I want like the, like, but like, so she starts hooking up with this girl, right? And then you say to her like, oh, I want to. So then does she agree that you could start hooking up with guys? And like at this point. Yeah, yeah. We agreed we could each hook up with members of the same sex. Right. She could give her that shot and I could go back and play with men.

Right. We felt that if she hooked up with a man or if I hooked up with a woman, we'd run the risk of more likely emotional attachments or if the other person would think it's something more than it is. That's kind of smart, right. So this is like sex hooking up. Yeah, yeah. Keep it physical because, like, dudes, I mean, we're Neanderthals.

We don't need to have romantic feelings to get off. You weren't cuddling with these guys. Yeah. To this day, I've never once cuddled. Right. Now you're depraved, remember? That's your word. Yeah.

We do that and, you know, I meet my friend there. I actually met him on Grindr. He was another dude in the National Guard. And it's like, I'm fucking jackpot. This part of he's pretty cute. He's, you know, pretty hung. Because Grindr works in the first 10 minutes. You get dick pick if you ask or not.

Really, that's what I'm all about. Right, right. She starts hooking up with her friend, living the dream, you know, going into the hot tub with. and making out and going back up to the apartment and everything. And I get to start hosting my friend and, you know, maybe a few other guys back at my shitty apartment next day's over and perfectly happy, you know. We tell each other, oh, I hooked up with a dude last night.

We did this, this, and this. And she's, oh, I hooked up with my friend again. But we don't get into such excruciating detail. We just say, hey, we gave each other blow jobs or, hey, we fucked, whatever. Right. And do you feel like it helped your guy sex? life. Did you guys get more horny for each other? Talking about these stories.

Absolutely. Because the desire was still there, like to fuck my wife, you know. Right. Hands full of tits, eat her pussy, all of that, grab her long hair. Just smell her. You know, a lot more passionate, romantic. Right. With guys are just like sweat, loud, furious, animalistic.

So two entirely different experiences. Right, and you enjoy both. Oh, absolutely. So at that point, is that one you started to do? the more like kinky stuff that you start you didn't really tell her about are you were doing it before her right um i had had i want to say blowbangs i've sucked two guys off before together a few times um i want to say that was about the extent of it uh right no gangbangs like you're going tell us about with like five black guys or like recently i climbed that peak pretty quick though

really like what you mean once you started doing that stuff and like like Like what? Yeah. Once we did start, you know, once I did start fucking guys again or being fucked, my imagination just went wild. In what sense? Like, where you, because you wanted to do more and more besides just your straight stuff with your two friends.

Because at that point you had one friend because I know you said you had like two kind of regular friends and these are the people like she kind of knows about and you're allowed to do these one off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was about as vanilla as two guys hooking up and fucking can be. Nothing crazy.

No real dom-sub relationship. Just like the drill is he'll come over. We'll have a beer, hang out, maybe watch some porn, and I'll suck him off, or we'll suck each other off. Or occasionally he'll fuck me. But then you started to think about more kinkies, like more hardcore stuff that you wanted to do. Oh, absolutely. And you thought you can't tell her about that stuff. some reason.

Yeah. She was still, you know, we were open. She knew I was fucking guy. She thought it was hot. She was fucking girl. But she was still just on the wrong side of too conservative to...

That doesn't seem conservative to me. I wonder if like you're reading her. I don't know. I mean, I don't know her, but I think like she doesn't sound that concern. Like I don't... I don't know why you draw the line. Yeah. She's obviously very liberated, but I don't know.

To me, again, there is a big jump like, oh, my husband and father and my child is on his knees, you know, with five guys jerking off onto him. But she knows that you have two guys that you're with, right? And you have these one-time things. And because, I guess it's because she was not into the whole group thing. So anyway, so you start, like, you start thinking of all these other things you'd like to do that you realize, like, you can't tell her, but, like, you want to. want to do it now, right? It's like an it you need to scratch. Yeah.

So you start having kind of a secret life. Like, I mean, it is kind of like, not cheating. I mean, like, how do you feel, like, how do you, what do you think she would feel like if she found out that you were doing this stuff? Like, what do you think she would think or, you know, would you freak out? It's tough to say. I think it would shock her on the level of some of the things I've done and what I do really get off on.

I think a better course of action would have been if I did tell her, like first thing, hey, these are things I want to do. So I could ease her into it and everything. Totally. Maybe some red flags would have popped up. I don't know. That's definitely something in retrospect. I could have done or should have done.

You could always even start now. Yeah. And that's it. Maybe I could play coy and play down. Hey, this has been interesting. Yeah. Yeah, this is what I'm thinking of. This is what I'm into it.

If she's just like, oh, my God, that's gross or whatever. Like, and she shuts you down. Then you know, okay, that's not cool. But, like, I don't know. She seems like, I mean, with somebody like her, I would give it a try because I think it would be much better, considering that you guys are sort of like, you're at the place where your relationship is open and you could do all these things. And there's such honesty there.

And yet there's a deception at the same time. It's just like, it shouldn't. I don't think it shouldn't have to be. You know what I mean? I get why other people fucking lie. You know what I mean? Because they have a lot more to lie. But like you're so honest.

Like, why don't you be 100% honest? And maybe subconsciously, I enjoy the double life. Oh. And a part of it is the shock value. Well, it makes it more naughty. And you like that, right? It does. Because, you know, now I work in law enforcement.

And if someone sees, you know, a cop. or an agent or whoever an officer, whatever role that is. They think, oh, straight-laced, white picket fence, wife, two kids. They don't see going to a gay bathhouse and, you know, doing everything there is to do. Right. That shock is very happy for me because I do like breaking the mold. But secretly, you don't want anyone to really know. You like knowing that they don't know kind of thing, right?

Exactly, exactly, because it destroys the preconceived notions of what people in my line of work are like. Right, and let me ask you this. I mean, because are you going to these bathhouses in this group sex, like, sort of like around where you live? Like, have you ever bumped into people that you know, like, or anything? I've run into coworkers, not in person, but definitely on Grindr, which is always a fun surprise. But they've never, like, but what about like a bathhouses? Like these bathhouses, do you go to ones in your town? Gay bars.

Uh-huh. Well, that's an ambiguous enough location where it's like, oh, and I had a gay bar doesn't necessarily mean I'm looking to get fucked. It's a bar, you know, and gay bars are always more positive environments than some dive bar where dudes are going to flex up and want to prove how macho they are. Right. So, you know, that's more my scene. Anyways, I, you know, get in fights all the time.

to work so I don't need to get in the fight when I'm trying to have a beer and relax. So it gave our if I'm looking for dick or not, it's kind of my default. A lot of guys know that. And they kind of do it themselves too. Right, but I mean, do people, because like you're very open about this since day one, you were open with the first girl that you

met and everything. Like, do most people in your life know that you're by? Like, do people that you work with know that you're by or like besides your wife, like nobody else knows? I'm masculine enough. And I want to say normal enough, but I'm so unassuming that if it does come out,

people are surprised. But if someone asks, hey dude, are you gay or are you by? I won't deny it. I mean, I'm comfortable who I am. And I'm at the point now. I've got enough time in in my line of work where if a guy all of a sudden

doesn't want to work with me because I'm into that, then it doesn't matter to me anymore. Obviously, I'm a rookie and a brand new super junior officer in the military, you know, I'm going to keep that hush, hush, just so I don't immediately have their reputation. But, you know, after several years now, I do have a reputation as a hard worker and, you know, relatively competent. I can afford to have that known about me.

So some people know. Right, but people know. If someone approaches me, no, no shame. Right. And people, so obviously people know. So it's not like you're really sneaking around if you're going to a gayboard and someone sees you, it's not like, oh, God, you're going to freak out that somebody's seeing you. Yeah, no, no, no. Right? Because you don't give a shit if people know. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. And, you know, maybe I'd give a shit if, like, my boss saw me kneeling down for four or five guys at the same time. Right. That I'd have to, you know, case by case scenario, maybe a boss or two would want in on it. That would be ideal. Yeah, but when do you start to do, like, when you start to do these group things, right? Like you say, like kneeling down for five guys.

these like sort of gangbangs that you've been involved with and stuff. Yeah. When does, how do you arrange those? How do you find those like when you start getting into that stuff? How do you? Initially that was all Craigslist. It was.

The desire for that came from just watching a lot of like blowbang porn and just as much calm as possible. Just that's a big thing for me. Oh, you're like my guy, Trey. Right? So yeah, Craigslist. I had a guy on who did like, you know, three days. blow, drop. Like, he just likes as much jizzing about that guy.

Yeah, yeah. I'm a little envious. Yeah, you can do the same thing. I haven't got an update for his five-day one or whatever he did last, but it's pretty crazy. That's more free time than I have. Right. But so you would hook it up on Craigslist? Yeah, yeah.

Craigslist, I have a few pictures of what I wanted, you know, like screenshots from porn or whatever and describe. The typical Craigslist ad, I'm sure you've seen as many as I have. at this point, yes. I always, you know, I read somewhere, it was the housewife that was gangbanged by a few black guys. Yeah. So she was saying that her fixer always shows the cheaper hotels and everything. I like the nice ones.

Maybe not the most security conscious, like being able to be discreet about it and everything. But, you know, I enjoyed the nicer hotels, kind of in bigger cities. You know, you get the better quality men and everything, maybe more experienced than guys were really into and have done it before. Because I've had a few instances where it's like, hey, I'm having, you know, you want to come over to my place at 9 o'clock.

You know, there's going to be another guy here. I want to suck you both off together. Right. You'll show up to be super discreet. So like, I'm not going to do this until he leaves. It's like, well, that's bullshit because you knew what the deal was when I invited you over. Yeah. So this way you get a lot of confident men who know what they're into and know what the deal is,

know what my plan is. So first one, you know, it started with two guys at the same time and then, you know, three. And I pulled the trigger. I had six guys was my first real like Bukaki blowbang type thing. This is why you're married. This is while I'm married. This was maybe four years ago. And it was in San Diego.

I was there visiting some. some non-sexual friends with some guys I was in the Army with. And got a nice hotel off of I-5 or the 5 and put out an ad in Craigslist Friday morning when I flew in and Saturday night.

You know, first guy came over, we had a few beersy. I chose like the most normal-looking dude. Also military. I knew what the deal was. It's like, hey man, well, I'm doing this. Can you just like open the door for me as people knock so we're not waiting on people to get there and everything. So he was like your helper guy. He was, yeah, yeah.

My assistant. Yeah. Threw on some gay gang bang porn on the laptop, turned the volume up, and it was a two-room suite. And I just waited on my knees, and he pulled his pants down, nice big cock, started sucking on him nice and slow. You know, people would knock maybe of course of 20 minutes

Everyone was there and really went at it. How many people? It was six. Six. It was four white guys and two black guys. And, you know, I'm picky. In San Diego was the place to be picky. Lots of military.

So these guys were all very fit. And I was able to find some really nicely hung gentleman. And they all get to come on your face. Like, that's your thing, right? They all came on my face and, you know, took some pictures, called me names, spat on my face, slapped my ass a bit, just fucking completely debased me.

Right, and that's what you're totally into, right? That was the first time. That was like your first sort of gang bang. Would you call it a gang bang? What was it called? First real group adventure, and there was actually no fucking, but got so much hot come all over my face

and just looked like a complete depraved little whore and it was beautiful. Right. So after they all finished, you know my my friend the guy who's opened the door for me held my hips up and I was able to come on my own face so I had seven loads of come

again it was fucking amazing what do you mean you were able to come on your way you mean he fucked you in the ass after what do you say no he he held my hips up so when I jerk myself off I shout out oh oh so then you were the last one oh interesting did you see that in a porn

you must have come like I'll still be in the mood but But did you see that move? Wait, wait, did you see that move in a porn? Like, I wouldn't even think of that, the whole hanging upside down, holding you so that you could come on your face. Like, was that something you saw? That's like, I guess, I don't know where I came up with that. But, you know, I might do that tonight if nobody comes over here. You do it yourself.

You know how to do it. Okay. And you asked him to help you out. And that's what you did. So you could come on your face last. And then I know you just said you just did like five black eyes at once, right? So I'm assuming you've done this now a bunch of times since that was four years ago. That was just opening the door.

Yeah. Once I did that, you know, fortunately my job, I get to go to training events kind of all over the country. And it's always big organizations that set these up. So it's like Vegas, Atlanta, New York, just be perfect places to be playing in. Atlanta person is my favorite because it's a lot of black men. So if you want to hear about the gang bang I described in our brief email. I said recently, and maybe it just seems recent. It was actually in August because Atlanta was hot as shit.

But again, put out my usual Craigslist ad, and I actually didn't have too much luck on it. But, you know, Grindr is like the first thing I hit when I land in the airport. found man like probably two-thirds of grinder was all these giant black guys just absolutely perfect this beautiful dark skin super muscular just like physically overpowering compared to me

and just upgraded my hotel room out of pocket that my pre-dium didn't cover so I got a different hotel at the place myself no other law enforcement co-workers in the place And then just, you know, I was as specific as possible.

No helpers this time. You know, I didn't meet anyone ahead of time. You say, hey, be here at, you know, this time, sharp. Like, no later than earlier. So I'm sure a few of them ran into each other in the elevator and maybe knew it was up. But within 10 minutes, everyone was there. And just, I was explicit like, hey, I want to be roughed up. I'm going to be tossed around.

You know, when you come in, I'm going, or I'm going to be naked when you guys knock. But as soon as you're all here, I'm getting on my knees and you guys do what you need to do to me. So I just want to be treated like a dirty little bitch, and I want to be called that, and called a slut and a whore and a toy, and spat on, slapped around, have their cock slapped across my face, and just absolutely used and abused and put away wet. And they all obliged. Do you think that those guys were gay or married? Like, who do you think shows up at these parties of yours,

these little hotel shindex? Because I remember the guy that calls in told me that he sees, like, marks from their wedding band, you know? Because I'm always like wondering, you know, how many of these guys are, like, straight guys that are doing this behind their wives' backs? How many of them are straight up gay guys, you know? Yeah.

I'll say in this, no one was flamboyant. You know, either they're getting quiet about it or they're straight. like the fuck or whatever the situation was. You know, some guys have worn collared shirts and they're very well-dressed and well-spoken. Others, just like their pants are halfway down their ass and the du rag and some smell like weed and, you know, man, if I was, you know, in that line of work, you know, in law enforcement, I'd be arresting you right now.

Instead of arresting you, you're pounding my asshole. But aren't you in that line of work? Well, not narcotic. or like a beat. Oh, right, right, right. Okay. So, you know, if I was like walking a beat where I work, you know, he would warrant some suspicion perhaps, you know, like, where are you doing at 3 a.m.?

Right. But, you know. But that's probably good for your fantasy. Yeah, yeah, for your for your hot fantasy, the dirtier the better. So maybe that's like a good person to have there, right? More so than the clean cut guy. But maybe it's all hot. So you never have told your wife you have these.

Do you fuck women behind you? her back too? Like, what else do you do that she doesn't know about? We've, I've been with a few couples where the guy is by. And, you know, especially if it's like a, like she wants me to fuck her husband or fuck her boyfriend or, you know, um, suck his cock or teach him how to suck talk. I've done plenty of that. I have never had a one-on-one with a woman. Right. Right. Okay. And she still sees her girl, right? She does. And as far as I know, unless she's a secret keeper as well, she's her friend, that original friend from nursing school, and they're now nurses at the same hospital.

She's the only woman my wife has ever fucked. Oh, really? Does she still sleep with her? She's still with her? Occasionally. You know, once my wife was pregnant and we had her kid, you know, the usual hormones happen, like breastfeeding. There's very little sex drive. But she was over quite a bit, and she's babysat for us while we go on dates.

You know, being a nurse, all that shift work is kind of funky to get babysitters and stuff like that. But they've gone on a few girl dates here and there, especially now that our kids getting older where we can do a date night regularly. If I'm working late night or if I'm away for training with the National Guard, they'll take turns going to each other's houses. or her friend will come here and love girl as night while her kid is sleeping and, you know, enjoy each other that way. Right. So she's still with that girl. She assumes that you're with your two guy friends, but doesn't know about all this, like, really dirty stuff. Have you ever had, like, like, straight on orgies where you're, like, getting fucked by, like, multiple guys? Or is it always just, like, the blowjob thing? No, no, I've been on a train several times. How many people in that train? A train means, like, you're all, I mean, how does that get?

set up. Did you set that up or did you go to someone else's train? A dude I work with in the National Guard is pretty heavy in the kinks and we found each other on Grindr. And it was this big conference we had where we were saying at the civilian hotel off base.

Same rank and everything, different areas that we work in but we're familiar with who each other are. When we first met, we fucked in the stairwell of the hotel and it was scary because we could have been caught. But he fucked me really good and loved it.

And he said, oh, I've got some friends who would love you too. So later on, maybe a week after that training event ended, I drove over to where he lives. And he had a sex swing, and he had four or five friends. I honestly can't remember how many it was. But it stretched me out, and they each took turns fucking me. You know, like as soon as one guy came and pulled out of my ass, and next guy plugged me right up. And I went for, like, an hour and a half ride.

I was sore and red and exhausted it at the end, but, you know, I was covered in come. My asshole felt great and, you know, perfectly happy with my life right there. Right. And now let me ask you this. Do you use condoms in these situations or no? Let me be honest.

By and large, yes. Right. Unless I trust the guy and know I'm like the two guys that I've been friends with for a long time. Yes. My friend I just talked out where we fucked in a stairwell. We wore a condom the first time, but we showed each other paperwork and we have a professional relationship well enough where I trust him.

But at that train situation, did you use condoms or they take it off before they come? Like, how does that work? He did not wear a condom. Everyone else did. He came in me and he was the first to go. So, you know, all of his come was in my ass and it was amazing lube along with everything else. So I guess I was, you know, like a cream pie. type thing, but everyone else wore condoms. And if they didn't come in me and come in the condom,

you know, they'd pull out and jerk off onto my, my stomach and my chest. Right, and that's what you like. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And my friend who set the whole thing up and hosted, you know, we had talked about what I was into and he knows I have a big thing for facial. So he was scooping it up and smearing out my face and calling me names and the typical, like, super dirty, filthy slut type stuff. Right. And that's your thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But let me ask you this. The other...

The more humiliating or... The better. But how many of these other guys... The more you need a shower afterwards, the more I'm into it. The more you need a shower afterwards, the more you're into it. That's your motto. But wait, let me ask you this. How many of these other guys that you play with, like, are...

Because I think it's more rare that you find somebody that's, like, so open, open with their wife, you know, with being buys. I find that most of the people that I talk to, this is like a secret thing that they're doing on the side. So how many of these guys that you're engaging? I know about you. Okay, we know your story now, but like these other guys, I don't need to hear the whole story, but like are they all open about it, or are they married, or some of them totally gay, or are they all living secret lives, or are they open like you are? Most of the guys I thought, I honestly don't know. I know they look normal enough to be a sane guy. No, but your friends, you're too long-term friends.

So the guy in the guard who set up the gang bang on me, he's kind of like me, I guess. Like, people know he's gay, but he's quiet about it. Is he gay or is he by? He's gay. He's gay. Okay. So he's gay.

And so he's not married or anything like that. So he's like you and that. And he'll be very vague. Like people ask, oh, where are you doing that? taking the girl out or whatever. He's like, oh, yeah, I've got plans. Just very discreet. But, again, he's not shy about it.

And once you get to know him, he'll open up and see he's gay. The other one back back on where I grew up, he's had relationships with women. I've never seen, like he's never brung a girlfriend, a girl he's dating out with us and a group of us go out or anything. So I don't know how serious emotionally his relationships have been. But he's definitely more unlawful. undercover with with fucking guys. I don't know if I'm the only one who fucks or how often or where he picks guys up if he does.

But he's not like married like you are, right. No, no, no. Most are very single or still flittering around different relationships. You're the only one that you know of that has this open relationship where your wife knows and you know about her. yet she doesn't know about all this other stuff. Where does this, like you said you write erotica, right? We're like at an hour, so I'm going to wrap it up. But like you say you write erotica.

Like how did that come out of nowhere? I mean, it does not out of nowhere, but like, you know, you're in the military. Now you're in law enforcement. So like where does that come into play? Or how did you, when did you start doing that? The first story I wrote was the first time I was with my friend on a ski trip. And from that, a lot of it. is just, you know, I've always liked the journal.

I like writing fiction. And I really like getting people off. And, you know, I've read a lot of erotica online, and I always get off to it. And maybe that's where some of my dirtier fantasies come from. And so I just want to share my stories, and, you know, maybe people like it and they get hard at it. And, you know, maybe a few people have some good masturbatory sessions reading, what I write. And now where do, can people, like, do you, do you want to plug your sort of erotic?

Like, where is it? Like, if people find it? Well, I won't, I don't want to say out myself. I won't say the names of my stories unless people specifically request, whatever. Okay. But the website I've always gone for is nifty.org. Oh, okay. But nifty, great, they're divided, like, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered.

but maybe have a dozen stories and I don't write often I actually spent this morning riding because I have a lot of free time right now but most heavily based on actual experiences actual encounters definitely a more in-depth look at just the specifics of some of the

dirtier things I've done like going to the bathhouse or getting fucked in a park bathroom stuff like that, being throat fucked in the back of a bar. So you've done all these things? I have. And you write about it? I do. The juicer stories for sure.

Right. Now, your wife, obviously, I would assume that your wife doesn't know about this because unless you tell her that these are made-up stories. I mean, do you let her read your story? That's exactly what I do. I do have her read them. And again, maybe this is where my hesitation to tell her that they are true comes from. She likes them.

she comments the writing, the style, all that, like, quality of the piece, but, you know, is a little mum on the actual content of what's going on. Right. But did she ever wonder? Like, she's never put two and two together? Well, I've described it out. It's therapy. Like, you know, if I'm bored and, you know, mentally pent up or don't have a release for

creativity or whatever, you know, I'll go a little off the deep end. No, but I mean, if you were my guy, okay, and you were like into guy. right and you were open about it and I knew that you fucked guys and then you're writing erotica and you're writing these stories about you having all this kind of like you know orgies and gangbings and all this stuff that you have bucocki parties and trains and all this stuff you've explained like fucking guys in bathrooms in the park and I would be like babe like is this what you want to do like obviously these are fantasies of yours like where do these thoughts and these descriptions and all this sort of stuff come from right if this This is what you're writing to make other people hot. Obviously, it's what makes you hot, right? And she knows that's, that's, you know, what I'm into. And she knows I think that's some really hot stuff. So why doesn't she think that you want to do it?

Like, why? Like, I don't know if she does or not. She knows I'm definitely wilder than she is, but it just hasn't, we haven't pulled that thread too hard yet. Yeah. I think you can eventually. Ease her into it. Yeah, your stories are the purpose. Like a new idea, then, you know, maybe that's a very smart, moral thing to do.

Pick, I think so. I think you're pretty damn lucky that she's totally cool with what you're into. I think she's super open-minded and you've been with her for a while. You have a kid together. I think there's like to have that, the sometimes, I think like the worst thing about it would be the deception of it. Maybe not so much what you're doing. doing the fact that you lied to her and if it was me I'd be like why would you lie like I was like letting you be like with people like there would be you know I think that would maybe hurt her

because she's so cool with you to and yeah right that she'd be like why would you lie I think that was the worst part of it not so much what you're doing you know and that does weigh on me you know But it is a mental crossroads on that. But I think it... Because I love everything I do, but there is, I wish I had done approach it differently with her. But I think you kind of like it that she doesn't know. In the hole. No, but you also say there's a part of you that thinks it's better that she, like there is a part of it that makes it a little bit more dirty in Rangie that she doesn't know.

But I think that if you told her and she knew, it would still be. just as hot. I really do think. You could pretend she doesn't know, you know. And I just think it would be better for you eventually if you let her know. Maybe you pick like the lightest story of your erotica's and say like, you know what? Like, I'm thinking like, would it be cool? Like, would you mind if I like tried this out like in real life or is it better if I keep it a fantasy?

Like what do you think? You know what I mean? And just like feel her out. Yeah. Yeah. And there's the associated risk. And, you know, the thing I would change in stories is, you know, the story is a story and even if it is heavily based on fat like all of a sudden everything's bareback so it's all unprotected and right the story i've got five loads of cum dripping on my ass and everyone's just fucking away um that would be a red flag of course you know being a family man um the i'm very risk adverse of course right um so i'd have to clarify like well no it's all protected it's i know and trust these people the same way i trust you and of course because they're

There would be a lot of caveats to it, I suppose. Of course, but that's the stuff that she would probably bring up without you bringing up. But if you bring that up first, it's perfect. You could be like, I really want to do this. But of course I wouldn't like, this was a made-up story. I wouldn't. Proactive we have planned to this. No, you could, there's no planning.

You were just writing these stories for people. But you could say, like, now maybe I would like to do this one thing. Of course, I would never be so dumb to do it without the condoms because I wouldn't want anything to happen. Like, you know what I mean? Like, do you think that would be cool? Like, I don't, you know. And I don't know, feel her out that way.

She said, no, you could go back to, you know, you're still doing it. You're not denying yourself of anything. I just think. Yeah, that's true. That honestly wouldn't. What's the worst case scenario? She says, no fucking way. And she believes she doesn't have a clue that you're doing it.

You know, you still could fuck these other guys and she knows about it and everything's fine. But maybe she says, okay, like that's fine with me. Just, you know, make sure you wear a condom or whatever, you know. and then it's okay, who knows. I don't know. I think you should, she's a type of person that you should at least try.

I think it's a lot harder for like the straight guy that calls me if there's been married to somebody for like, you know, 15 years that things are like a normal straight guy, you know, quote unquote. And he's been like blowing guys

and wants to tell her that he's totally by. You know, she has known since day one. She can, you know, I just think, you know, you should try with her because, you know, like I said, worst case scenario.

Yeah, yeah. And someday I will. You definitely bring two tactful ways in which to do that. Yeah, but keep running. Maybe I just need a man up and do it. Maybe not, you know, I don't know. I just, I can't understand.

It doesn't, I know that you say that, like, you know, I just think, you know, maybe you're doing it because it is hotter just to do it behind her back, more than you do it because. you don't think she'd understand. I don't know. Or maybe there's some shame involved.

I don't know. Because I think it seems like because of how honest you've been and she's cool with her, that she'd be okay. Like I think it's like a weird line to draw with somebody when you have such an open relationship where both people are by, both people are sleeping with other people, long term people of the same sex, you know, to keep this a secret. That's just, I don't know, it's something it's hard for me to understand. So that's why I keep harping on it.

But maybe I'm wrong, you know, not maybe I'm wrong. I'm probably wrong. Maybe subconsciously, I get off on the deception. Yeah, I think so. That would definitely require some more introspection on my purpose. Yeah, and that's just the physical. I don't want to ruin your orgies, you know, with making you think. I'm not here.

You should not ruin my orgy. They will ask. You're right. You're right. Like, I don't want to be a fucking cock block into your life. I mean, you're having. I will find a way. way.

Okay, cool. Where is a will, there is a way. And I don't want, yeah, exactly. I mean, you probably have like 80 more stories to tell my people, you know, because I, like, I mean, we're over an hour already, and I feel like it just took this long to get, like, sort of the whole story and some specifics of some stories, but like you just said, oh, like when I fucked in the bathroom in the park and when I did this and I'm just like, oh, we don't have time.

I didn't mean to drop those little, uh, no, but you could always. Little Easter eggs. Yeah, but we could always do a part. That's what I do with people when they have a lot more stuff. Because sometimes it takes me a long time to get to those like hot stories that some people want to hear, you know, because I'm so interested in all the other details, you know, like your life story. And maybe I belaborate a few like the first time and kind of set up the backstory and the Army experience. You know, I probably dragged that on.

No, but that's okay. I like that stuff because. There's plenty of on my knee sucking cock in a variety of cases, a variety of men. Right. Plenty of stories to go around. Have you, do you know about the guys? the Maverick men. Do you know them talking about gay porn? They're very famous in the gay porn thing. They do, they invite regular guys to come in and do have sex with them and they shoot it for porn and stuff. They're called the Maverick men. Yeah. And I did an interview with them. You can't find it, like you could find it on Libson. If like, you know, because only iTunes and Stitcher only shows my last 100 episodes, but I've done over 200 episodes. So the one with the Maverick men is there and they, I interviewed them and they're like an open. been gay couple who fucked tons of guys and they're very famous in that world.

They were like regular guys who were like videotaping themselves and putting it up online and then they became super well known and downloaded and then they turned it into a thing and they're like make a lot of money doing it now and they're called the Maverickmen. They're here and near. Yeah, you can maybe meet up with them next time you come to New York. But anyway. I'll try and get some training in New York. Yeah, go check them out.

But also, you know, if you want to come back on and tell some more specific stories, stories whenever you want, I'd be glad to have you back on because I'm sure people would want to hear them. Oh, absolutely. I'd be happy to be your guest any time. Just give me a shout. Yeah, we'll do it again. I'll email you about that and we'll coordinate that.

But thanks for calling in and we'll talk to you again soon. Well, thank you for giving me a little forum here to happily explain and get things off my chest. Yeah, and you're going to be able to tell more stories next time. Well, hopefully I'll have a story tonight if all goes well. All right. I will. I'll have fun tonight.

And then we'll hear about it next time on your part two. Well, thank you very much. Thanks, Chris. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book,

it's called Strictly anonymous confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story.

There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them.

They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord.

My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money.

It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community, and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.

And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the strictly anonymous podcast.