Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 217 - Molly the Married Mormon Goes Bisexual

Episode Date: February 12, 2018

Molly grew up Mormon but was super sexual at a very young age. She's already lived out her fantasy of being with another woman, has had a threesome with her husband and lets him have sex with other wo...men and she’s only twenty two. When did she first start having sex with guys? When did she first start having sex with girls? When did her and her husband have their first threesome? Tune on to hear all the juicy details, hear all about her gang bang and “Eiffel Tower” fantasy and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:26 but I have on a girl today named Molly, Molly the Mormon, Molly Mormon. I think that that's like a term. She said that that's a term in the Mormon community, a Molly Mormon. This girl was a Molly Mormon. Now she's not a Molly Mormon, but her name is we're calling her Molly on this podcast. And we talk all about Molly and, you know, how open she is sexually and how she always was sort of like that, how it worked out with her being a Mormon and being so sexualized. Is that a word? or so sexual, that's a word. How that played out is really interesting to me. I had a million questions about that because I don't know much about the religion and it's fascinating what goes down there. We talk about, you know, the stuff that she did, how she acted out being so sexual as a Mormon and how she's acted out in the things she's done sexually speaking now that she's married.
Starting point is 00:02:22 She's a young girl. She's into a lot of things. We talk about all the stuff that she's done. we talk about the stuff that's like on her list of things to do when it comes to Asiaks and they're just as interesting as the shit she's already done. So sit back, relax and enjoy my conversation with Molly. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email. Strictly Anonymous.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Uh, Hey, Molly, welcome a strictly anonymous podcast. You're on Kathy. How are you?
Starting point is 00:03:13 I'm doing well. How are you? I'm good, Molly. So you're like Molly the Mormon. And for some reason you said Molly Mormon is like some sort of funny or the name that Mormons use for like, I don't know, something, right? Like, there's a Molly Mormon thing, right? So we're calling you Molly.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah. You're a good Mormon. You're a good Mormon or you were like a good girl Mormon, but like you did certain things that are very outside what you should have done. Right. Yeah. Being a Molly Mormon means like you are to the T what Mormon, an example of like, just all the right things.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You just do everything right. You never get any of that's Molly Mormon. Peter Priest said if you're a boy. Yeah, so you're not a Molly Mormon, really. You're like the opposite of a Molly Mormon. You were before you met your guy on Tinder. Just not when it comes to SEX, right? Because that's what was...
Starting point is 00:04:10 Exactly. Right? Because like there you were a Molly Mormon, right? But you were super horny. Like we're talking about like way before you even lost your virginity, right? Like you were always like sort of very sexual or just knew that about yourself, I'm assuming, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You said that in your email, right? and then you meet your husband. Like when do people in your community, like don't you guys get married like really early? Because you sound super young now and you're already have a husband. So I'm assuming like maybe. Yeah, I've been married about a year and a half and I'm 22.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Right. So you meet your husband. So let's start from like when you met your husband, right? Or like let's just talk about the whole sexual thing and like how you knew you were very sexual even though. And like how conflicting that was for you considering that was very like, you know, it sort of goes against like a lot of the beliefs of your religion, right?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Right. Sure. Yeah, no, totally. If you, yeah, just no sex before marriage. And if you do, you have to talk to the bishop before you can get back into the temple. That's kind of the idea. And that's really anything sexual. It's not just sex. It's... What do you mean? Like, let me ask you this. Like, are you allowed to masturbate? Like, do they tell you're not allowed to do that? Like, I mean, how... What do they mean by sex? No masturbating. Anything that is inappropriate thought should be saved for marriage. So anytime you're thinking about anything sexual or whatever, that is potentially sinful if you act upon it. And then you have to go and tell the bishop is what you said. Right, which is usually like a 50-year-old man, pretty usually. Yeah, and is he like in a booth like the Catholics do it? He's probably just like jerking off on the other side listening to these stories.
Starting point is 00:05:47 This is terrible. He's sitting in an office on the other side of a desk. It's pretty like, and just listening to this. And like, so people go to him and we'll say, like supposedly, like say you're like a real Molly Mormon,
Starting point is 00:06:02 right? And then this happens to you and you start to get really horny and you play with yourself one day. Like you, people go to him and say like, oh my God, like I fingered myself last night. Like,
Starting point is 00:06:12 can I come back into the community? And he says yes or no. Or as long, like, just admitting it let you back in? No, there's usually like an action plan. You've got to like kind of work back up to your worthiness. And what does that entail? Do you know?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Sometimes like scripture study or certain prayer or checking in with him. I've got a friend who has to call her bishop every morning and evening. What did she do? She had sex with a guy. And then she told him. And then she told him. Yeah, she told him. and it just had been happening so many times, and she couldn't stop or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And so it was such a problem. He said, you're going to check in with me every morning and night. And you just know that, and it keeps you accountable. Like, oh, I'm going to have to call my bishop in an hour. I can't have sex right now. You know what I mean? Did it stop her? Does it help?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Oh, no, no, no. Right. Oh, that bishop. How old did the bishop? He's like a fifth year. Is he good looking? I don't really know. They're usually old guys.
Starting point is 00:07:16 They, like, they're 50s and 60s. they're just like old people. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they're not getting hard. It doesn't mean that they're not getting horny by these stories. I mean, come on. That's like the biggest racket I've ever heard. It's kind of, I mean, I'm sure. Like, it's really, listen, nothing's ever 100%, right?
Starting point is 00:07:32 And I'm sure there's plenty of bishops that would, you know, would stick to the books when it comes to that kind of stuff. But I just think, I mean, they're human beings and they're guys, right? And they're just horny. Just like you were horny, right? And these poor people that go to him were just horny. And then they're like having confess their sins And he's like check in with me
Starting point is 00:07:51 He's probably like check in with me Because she's probably hot She's young and she's talking about sex It's like free phone sex for him But it's like all over the phone right I mean and like when you call Like what is she like when she checks in quote unquote Does she have to like tell him like
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh I'm I really want to have sex And he talks her down from the cliff Or like what is checking in It just says hey I went a whole day without having sex And then he's like okay so I'm good And then you like checks it off. And once you get like six months, you can get your temple recommend again. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And do they tell your parents, like is this kept on the down though? Like just between you and the bishop? It depends. It's like once you're out of your parents' house, you go to a different, like the congregation that meets is called a ward. And there's like a family ward. But once you turn 18, you go to a single ward so that you can meet other single people. And you have a different bishop than your parents do now. So they wouldn't at that point.
Starting point is 00:08:47 but if you were in high school doing these things, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure my bishop told my dad all the things that I. Why, you went him and told him? Mm-hmm. Oh, I thought for some reason maybe you didn't. You did. So everyone just does, like, everyone just drank that Kool-Aid and just thinks, like, oh, I do something I have to tell and then you, and you actually listen. Like, I wouldn't. Well, because you're told from this very young age that this is how you be worded.
Starting point is 00:09:09 This is how you show God you love him and whatever else. And I wanted that. You know, I wanted God to know that I loved him. And so I didn't want to have sex anymore. or I didn't want to masturbate anymore or whatever. So if I went to the bishop, he would help me stop. Oh, my God. And did he help you stop?
Starting point is 00:09:25 No. Yeah. I mean, that's the reason why, listen, I mean, it's like I'm not like anti-religion, even though it's not like I buy into any just one. And I like, you know, it's like I don't want to like put down your beliefs, right? Like I don't believe in that, right? I don't like people that do that kind of stuff. But this just sounds like ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It just doesn't even make sense. It's like people saying gay people go to hell. This is where religion gets a really bad rap because they have these ridiculous rules and regulations that don't even make logical sense. Do you know what I mean? Like they just really don't. And I don't know who made it up or why they made it up or when they made it up. But it doesn't really work anymore, right? I mean, it doesn't deter anybody, right?
Starting point is 00:10:06 And you're just going there and you're doing all this stuff and you're having to sort of explain yourself. It probably just makes you more horny because this is like, you know, because like. be talking about it. And also because like when you're super young, like it's really like rebelliousness is like a way of sort of like setting yourself apart and becoming an individual. It's just like a natural part of who you are. And that's why. So I think it's like there's like this sort of rebelliousness and young people, right?
Starting point is 00:10:33 That just is a natural thing. Like I said, that just helps you figure out who you are and all that stuff that people sort of play around with. So if like it's only going to make you people more horny if you ask me. So whatever. Yeah. For me, at the time, though, at the time, back, I really wanted to be good. I really wanted, and so it was like, oh, shit, I just did this. And I would, like, look at porn on my phone and then my screen would freeze and I'd, like,
Starting point is 00:10:57 think out thinking that my, like, my parents were going to see it or something. Right. But it's sad that you, but what's sad is, like, you use that word good. Like, I really wanted to be good. Like, as if you're bad, you know what I mean? I don't know if you felt like you were bad or you were doing a bad thing, but it's just like. At the time, I did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:14 It was. It was so bad. Yeah, that's terrible. You know what I mean? And then like, what out of like, you know, your sexuality gets so, like, wired in a really odd way. I feel like when you put these kind of things on people, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so, so it just seems like everybody like, I guess like, like, because to me I was always like super rebellious, even like like at three. Like I would have never listened to that shit. I don't care who told me it as long as they told me. I've just been always a very out of the box person. So I'm assuming that any of the people that sort of realize that this stuff is ridiculous and they're not like Molly Mormons, they just leave anyway before any of this happens, right?
Starting point is 00:11:50 because most people, including you, like, and your friends, were doing stuff and then going and telling that bishop. Like, you guys were following those rules, yet still, like, playing with yourself and stuff, right? But still going and telling him, because you were told to do that. Okay, I don't want to waste any more time on that because I could talk about this shit for, like, 10 hours because it's just so ridiculous. You call things like wards. It's like you live on another planet, like in certain, right?
Starting point is 00:12:17 It is like a whole. Oh, it's so interesting. Yeah. So anyway, so you wind up. Okay, so you're like super horny always going to the bishop and it never works. And I mean, because we, you do eventually become by and like you have this girl thing. Like did, was that something that was going on when you were super young or did this happen after you got married? Oh, I kind of would notice like, oh, wow, that's a really beautiful woman. Or like if I was watching porn or something, I would see like, okay, I like all of this. You know, it's not like I need to cover her up while he's doing that yours. You know what I mean? It was never. I just thought, okay, well, women are attracted, but I knew that, okay, that's not good, right? That would be defined before. And so I would shut that out and block that out. Did you ever talk to your bishop about that?
Starting point is 00:13:06 No. No, because I didn't feel like it was something really, like, part of my identity. I didn't feel like, and I still don't necessarily, like, I wouldn't call myself entirely bisexual. I just am attracted to women. I think that women are beautiful and sexy, but I'm not like, I don't want to be in a relationship with a woman. I'm not, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yeah, yeah, well, that's a difference between gay and bisexual, if you ask me. Like, bisexual people, like, would have sex with someone of the same sex, you know, because they could have sex with either a man or a woman. But, you know, romantically, they are interested in somebody of the opposite sex, right? And some people that are romantically interested and that would be gay. I think that's the difference, you know, and I just think people are different, like bisexual,
Starting point is 00:13:48 People are like, there's maybe various degrees of it, right? But I think if you're pretty open and you would sleep with either a man or woman, you're pretty much bisexual, right? But you're just like gay, right? Because you wouldn't, you know, that kind of thing. So anyway, so you wind up, though. So you're telling your bishop this stuff. Like, do your parents, like, and you're always let back into the ward?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Like, I mean, you're always let back into the temple or whatever you're going to call it. Like, yeah. No matter how many times. times you stray? It wasn't until I started having sex, but they like, okay, took my temper restaurant away. It wouldn't let me back in. They wouldn't let you back in once you had sex.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Well, it would take six months without having sex to get back in, and I just never went six months. So I would try, I would make it a week or two weeks, and then wouldn't. Oh, my God, and then you'd call up and you'd let them know. No one lies? Why don't you just lie? I mean, people lie all the time, but I didn't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:51 You were the Molly Mormon. That's the Molly Mormon in you. I believed in it. I believed that all this stuff was true and that it would help me and whatever else. And now looking back, I'm like, oh, it was a crazy person, but that's okay. Yeah. Listen, I mean, you didn't have control over that. You were born into this, and this is what was told, and you're the type of person that, like, listens to people and obeys, which is a good quality to have, right?
Starting point is 00:15:14 This is like, it's not a bad way to be, right? So what else? Yeah, you were obedient, right? Is that what you said? Right. Yeah, I was disobedient. I mean, I was terrible when I was growing up. Like, it's not good to be like me.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It's good to be like you. So, yeah, you didn't know any better, but how confusing and ridiculous. And I'm sure we'll get back to that when we move forward. But like, so you, the way you have sex, right, is like you vow, like in your community, right? Like, you guys have to be, you can't lose your virginity until, like, you're married, right, and you wind up going on Tinder, like you're allowed to go on Tinder, and you met your husband to be?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, so that was, yeah. So I had, um, when I moved from home, like when I moved for school after high school, I, that's when I kind of was like, oh, I don't,
Starting point is 00:16:01 I don't have to live this way anymore entirely. And so I kind of centered out of my own. I still tried to be this good Mormon girl, but I, I would, I just would get in trouble with boys. And I just, because they like me and I like them.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And so we go out. and we would have sex, and then I'd have to go tell my bishop and whatever else, and then I realized, like, nobody really holding me accountable anymore. You know, I don't have to go home to my parents and have them ask me, like... How old were you when you lost your virginity? So it wasn't your first... You didn't lose your virginity to your husband. You lost your virginity.
Starting point is 00:16:30 No, I didn't. Oh, okay. Right. Okay. So you were how old when you lost your virginity? 19. 19. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And then, and you told... How did that happen? Are you allowed to drink as a Mormon? Were you sober? No. No drinking. Yeah, totally sober. I dated a guy who, and most people around here are LDS.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Like, it's probably Utah. Oh, all right, okay. No, but are what? Most people there are what? Oh, Mormon. Sorry, LDS, Latter-day Saints. Oh, yeah, I was like, what the fuck does that mean? LDS, Latter-day Saints, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah, that's like the official name of the church. Okay. Mormon is a nickname. Anyway, sorry, most people here are Mormon. Right. So somehow I found the one guy who wasn't Mormon and started dating him pretty soon after I moved down here from Idaho, is where I was before. And so anyway, so I met this guy, dated him, and he wasn't Mormon. And so things just, one thing led to it, we've been dating for like a month and a half or something when we just had sex.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And it wasn't really a big deal. I didn't, like, I felt guilty about it. Uh-huh. But I went and talked to my bishop and stopped feeling guilty. So that was kind of the end of it, you know? Uh-huh. And so you had sex with him and you dated him? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:17:49 We only dated for like two or three months. And then, you know, I kind of stopped trying to have sex. Like for like six months I probably went because I think I got my temple recommend back. And then that somebody else had sex with him and it just kind of progressed. And where it was just something that like I felt guilty 90% of the time because I just really liked having sex. and I, like, could get it, you know? Anytime I went on a date, I'd have to, like, tell somebody no if I wanted to. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:21 So you would say no, but you really wanted to. You were really saying that. Right. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And you were, like, hoping they'd force you to, and then you'd have to be like, okay. This is why this whole Me Too movement thing and this shit with the women.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And it's so confusing for men because sometimes no does mean yes. I know. I know. And I'm guilty of that for sure. because I'm like, I'm like, I can't tell my bishop I was into this, but let's do it anyways. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. How many guys did you sleep with before your husband, before you met the guy you wound up marrying?
Starting point is 00:18:57 Uh, like 10. Uh-huh. And so that was in two years. That's a lot of guys. Considering, like, let me just tell you, when I was drinking, like, I had really high numbers as far as, like, how many guys I would sleep with because you're drug. You just, like, you just ride up fucking anybody when you're drunk. Like you had alcohol to situations and your numbers go up. You were completely sober, right?
Starting point is 00:19:17 And you had like, you were averaging five guys a year. That's, you know, you were sexual. I dated a lot. Even when I was like, like, just Malin Mormon, I dated a lot. I would go on like my Saturdays. I had a breakfast day that lunch date and a dinner day. I was that girl. You really?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah. So I dated a lot. And so that's a tainted. Did you think you were looking for when you were dating? Did you just like the attention from guys? Were you looking to get married? Were you looking for like the one guy to have like a long-term relationship with? Like why date so much?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Because you have to get married. You've got to get married, you know, by the time you're 20. Otherwise you're an old mate. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. Oh, so that's the race. So everyone's like that in your community. It's like the race to get married, right?
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah. Mm-hmm. And most people do end up getting married at 20? Did you get married at 20? Yeah, I thought Yeah, I was 21 Yeah, I was 21 Okay
Starting point is 00:20:18 So I've got one I've got one friend Who I graduated with Like my age That isn't married That was a close friend of mine She's 22 and she's still not married Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:29 So seems like an old Oh my God That's not so I feel anymore But that was the that's the mentality So I dated a lot And so that didn't stop When I started having sex I just kept dating
Starting point is 00:20:42 a lot. And most of the guys I slept with weren't like, um, relationship. They were kind of more like hook up, you know? Right. So if you met a guy that you thought you could have a relationship with, you didn't sleep with him, you would sleep with the guys that maybe you didn't take so seriously. Right. Exactly. Because I didn't want to sleep with the guy that I wanted to marry because then we wouldn't be able to get married in the temple. I know. I know. I tell guys this all the time, like the guys that are just trying to bang girls, but they act all nice. I'm like, if you just act like an asshole that you are and be your same. And be your same. I know. I know. I tell guys. I'm not. I'm they'll probably have sex with you.
Starting point is 00:21:14 If they think, if you're too good, they're going to want to have a relation with you, then they hold out and then they're not going to fuck you. It's like it works the opposite way. Right. Exactly. But you fucked your husband, okay, the first night. So how did that happen? Well, my husband and I, we met on Tinder, but it was because I had been cheated on by this other guy.
Starting point is 00:21:38 The girl and I became best friends, the girl that he cheated with, and she set me up on Tinder. because before that I hadn't really been using Tinder and Josh was the first guy My husband was the first guy that I matched with on Tinder And he Was out of town And we didn't actually meet for like three months Oh and you talked like tax and stuff
Starting point is 00:21:59 And Skype and whatever else So by the time he got back to town We were like Oh we already had known we were getting married But both of us We said we weren't going to have sex But it just didn't go so well And do you know
Starting point is 00:22:12 if he had had sex before as well before you? Yeah, he's older, he's 31, so I'm 22, he's 31, so he wasn't Mormon. Oh. Yeah, so that was kind of a strange thing to do, like, to date and be serious about a guy who wasn't Mormon.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Yeah, interesting. I was going to ask you this, like, do guys, like, what's the age that guys are the guys considered old, too, if they're not married by the time they're 20, or like, what's the age? for men that they need to be married by. Yeah, guys have to go on missions when they're 18. They have to go like preach the gospel. Oh, yeah. So those are, those are for two years. So they come home and they're 20 and they spend a couple years dating. So if they're like 22, 23 years old, they're getting there. They're getting up there. Right. And that's one foot.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So most of them are married off. So you met your guy and he wasn't Mormon. How did your parents feel about that? They really liked him compared to the last guy that I dated. So they were okay with it. And they'd realize at this point that I was kind of like wavering and not super into the church anymore. And so they were just grateful that he's a good guy and, you know. So my parents are generally pretty, with me anyway, my siblings, they're very strict on,
Starting point is 00:23:35 but with me they kind of let me make my own decisions and live my own life and how come? Wow. What's the difference? you and your siblings? Because I gave the torture real shot. Like I believed in it and whatever. My siblings all thought it was bullshit from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And so none of, they were always the rebellion kind of situation, whereas I like really genuinely tried to make that work for me and it just didn't. Right. So they saw you trying and they respected that. And so now that they let you be in a own person just because you actually at least tried.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Oh, you should tell your siblings, maybe they should just like pretend to be like you little bit more. That would go over really well. Yeah, I don't know. So, but that's cool that they were accepting, because I would think that, like, with all these rules and regulations, that would be, like, really, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:23 bad to marry outside of the church, but they were okay with it. And so you marry- My parents were okay. But are other parents, is, like, in a big thing in the community? Do you have to go to your bishop? Oh, it is.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Go get his own. Yeah, your family won't. Yeah, that's a no-no. you marry and send the church. Oh, interesting. And did you have to tell the bishop that you did that? Or you've already been out of your... No, because I don't want to get a temple recommend anymore, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:51 So if I wanted to go back and participate, I would. I would need to go have a lot of things I need to go confess. But I don't want that anymore. So, yeah, talking to the bishop pretty much stopped when I met my husband. Right. Okay, cool. So you've been married to him for a year and a half, right? and you guys had sex right away.
Starting point is 00:25:11 You knew you were going to get married. He was 31. He was ready to be married and everything at 31. Yeah. Yeah. He's 29 when we met, but yeah, he's 31 now. Yeah, he felt ready to be married, whatever else. And so we were dated and married in less than a year.
Starting point is 00:25:33 So that stayed true to get married quick and young. Right. Well, you needed to. right? Like you were still like believing in that at least from your church, right? Yeah, I still wanted, I still wanted to start a family and I still wanted to be married and get on with that part of my life. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay, great. So you married to your guy, right? And then like when does the whole girl thing come up? Well, he would watch porn and I had a problem with that. I really, like, because for me, that was always a sin. I'd always have to go apologize for that, right? And so, so when he, he, he would watch porn, it would kind of bum me out.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And so we would just talk about it. And finally, I just kind of said, like, I don't really know why I'm still holding on to this. Like, I don't believe all the other principles of the church. Why do I still hold on to porn is so bad, you know? Considering you were watching it yourself. I mean, it's not like you never looked at porn yourself, right? Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And so I'm like, what am I doing, like, shaming my husband for being sexual when this is something that I've done since I was 14 years old and, like, really wanted. And so anyway, so we would, like, he would watch porn, and so I kind of was like, okay, I'm going to open my mind up to that. And I just felt better. And it was like, I don't feel bad anymore for all of all that guilt just went away that harbored for all those years for watching porn, you know. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It's like, and it took, like, sort of looking, maybe you were projecting your stuff onto him, right? And then once you sort of, like, forgave him about it or been okay with him doing it, it helped you be okay with yourself. which kind of makes sense. Yeah. That's great. Yeah, so he would watch porn.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And so then I was like, okay, let's watch porn together. And we would watch porn together. And he just kind of would notice my reaction to certain things. And if, like, I mean, just in general, if a really beautiful girl got on there, he would, like, notice that I just reacted to that in a positive way. And he said, do you like that? You know, is that something that you're into? And I'm getting more kind of, I guess.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And we'd drop it right then and wouldn't, like, put pressure on me, but eventually it would kind of come up. Like, I think you're kind of attracted to women. And it'd be like, no, no, no, I'm not. You know, I'm not. That's really no. And he'd be like, you, and then he explained to me, you know, you can, you can be attracted to women without, without, like, being gay, kind of like we talked about.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And I was like, okay, yeah, I can kind of identify with that. And then we talked about a threesome, and I was like, no, no, no, no. When we got married, we promised we would be the only people. we have our sex with again. I'm so not interested. Um, and then once again, it kind of felt like I was shaming him for wanting that, you know, and I didn't, I don't want to do that. I want him to be able to express those desires to me. So I kind of opened my mind and I said, I'm going to reframe this. And when I did, I felt all that guilt go away once again of like what I've been feeling and like, like the fact that I think women are beautiful, like that guilt went away, you know, and I just felt
Starting point is 00:28:36 okay with it again. And so then I was like, yeah, let's make a three-term happen. And so we kind of like went to, like, well, where do we go? And Josh was like, well, you know, there's Craig, where's blah. So we looked and it was just a lot to vet through, you know? And he's like, honestly, the best way to probably find someone is going to be Tinder. And he's like, but it can't be us. Like, because single girls are getting all types of people.
Starting point is 00:29:05 They're getting guys. They're getting girls. They're getting couples. so it can't really be a couple but if you are a girl then I mean that's gonna be a better shot and he's like and that'll kind of give you an opportunity to explore what it is that you like about women
Starting point is 00:29:17 you know if it's something for you so he kind of like encouraged me to go find a girlfriend oh okay so when he said you go on and it can't be both of us he wanted you to go on and meet the girl first and do like a solo thing yeah and make sure I was okay with it
Starting point is 00:29:34 and comfortable with it and then if it got to the point where I could bring him in, great. And if not great, you know, he just wanted me to be able to explore that because I never had before because I'd been left with guilt about any of those thoughts. And so I got on Tinder and I met a girl and I explained my situation. I told her from the beginning, I said, I'm married. And I'm just kind of curious and trying to figure this out. and that kind of part of it,
Starting point is 00:30:05 it's not a deal, but part of this whole agreement, I guess, is that, like, I'm married, and eventually everything that I do is going to benefit my husband and myself. So, um, keep that in mind. And she said, yeah, in game, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:19 so her and I went out probably like five or six times, and we would go, she lived a couple towns away, maybe an hour away. And so we'd, like, meet in the middle and get a hotel in her, and I would, like, hang out, and she was like my girlfriend for a while. Okay, but let's listen to,
Starting point is 00:30:32 Well, slow down a little bit, okay, because people are going to want a little bit more details, right? I haven't asked this question in a long time, and I normally used to ask it all the time. Like, what, like, what are you, like, what do you look like? I'm going to find, I want to know what she looks like, you know, like the horny guys listening to the stories are going to want to put that kind of stuff together. I mean, like, what are you on a scale of one to ten? Oh, man, I'd probably give myself, like, a good seven and a half. Okay. I'm a cute girl.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Like, I'm really pretty. So maybe you're an eight Okay, maybe I'm an eight My body, I'm a little like chubby Not chubby, like kind of I used to be athletic and now I'm a little chubby Yeah, but people like that I mean, you know, as long as it's like you carry yourself
Starting point is 00:31:19 The right way and it's sexy Like I mean, I don't think you have to be skinny To have a good body You know, all different kinds of bodies are hard, right? So, and what kind of girl did you go looking for? Like what did you realize was your thing? Because you're like on Tinder and you're swiping through and everything.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. What were you looking for? I like girls that look like me. Really? That's so funny. I like Lynette with dark eyes and kind of like a more exotic look. My mom is half black so I'm like a mix. I'm a quarter black and I have a little bit of just kind of an exotic look.
Starting point is 00:31:50 People ask me if I'm like Brazilian all the time. Okay, cool. So you were looking for somebody that had an exotic look as well? Yeah, that was kind of the look I was going for, I guess. I guess that was my team. pipe. Um, and this girl ended up being, she was very beautiful. She, she had blue eyes, but she otherwise had dark hair and, you know, tan of skin and she's pretty. She was pretty. Okay. And so you start meeting up? Like, I mean, how did that happen, like via Tinder? Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:20 what was, like your first hookup like? We went to a bar, um, we went to a bar downtown and just kind of had drinks and, like, we're just kind of talking. And then she took me to this, like back little room in the bar and she kissed me back there and then she she drove me back to my house. We had met up at the bar, but she drove back to my house and we kicked my husband out. Of the house? No, well, no, just in, he, I was a bedroom and he slept on the couch. She, like, went downstairs and watched a movie or something and her and I were in my room. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:32:59 He didn't even go and spy. I mean, he was able to just go down and watch. TV, that's hilarious. I think most guys would be so wanting to get on that action. So how is your first experience? I didn't wrap like super
Starting point is 00:33:14 sexy and a really fun girl. I am not crazy about sex as a girl. Like it's not my favorite thing. I don't know. I just missed dick. I just missed having we seen it's involved.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Right, right. It wasn't like enough. There was something Missing still. Yeah, and it kind of just got boring quick, you know? I was like this, yeah. So, but it was really fun, like, and it was crazy and wild, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. So, so that was great.
Starting point is 00:33:50 And then we probably, it was probably three or four more times that her and I just, like, just hooked up. And we would go on the dates. She would, like, take me to the park and do a picnic and whatever. We go on dates and then, and then go back to the hotel and hook up. was just like, I didn't like that. I didn't like dating a girl, you know? Uh-huh, uh-huh. But she, was she gay, or was she by? She was gay. Okay. She was gay, but willing to, like, be with my husband, because he's really hot. He's a really good looking dude. Had she been with guys before? She said yes, that she had, but not for a couple of years. Okay. And she, and so she thought your husband was attractive, and she was like, if I get a bang a guy, I'd bang him.
Starting point is 00:34:34 he's hot. He's a one you're saying. What's he on a scale of one to ten? Oh, he's a ten, but I'm biased. He's so handsome. What is the girl on a scale of one to ten? She's probably a seven. A seven?
Starting point is 00:34:49 Okay, cool. So you have sex with her. When you guys have sex, like you do everything, you go down on her, she goes down on you, you tried everything and it was like okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I tried it all, and I was like, I'm willing to do this.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I'm fine doing this, but it wasn't like, I don't get a whole lot of pleasure out of this. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. And so when do you eventually let your husband in? Do you? I don't even know. This is the, I mean, I don't know much about this story.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah. So, um, we ended up, because we wanted to be friends as well. You know, we didn't just want it to be like someone. So she came over and was just hanging out. We weren't even planning on anything happening, but we started drinking and, like, playing games and set, like, hard games and stuff. And it just kind of escalated to kind of where they were, like, flirting a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And I was like, it was kind of weird. It just like took me back. But I was really kind of turned on by it. I just liked the idea of someone else being into my husband. It like really turned me on that somebody else thought he was attractive and wanted to be with him. Right. Let me ask you this really quickly because I wonder like other people listening, right? Like when you have believed like before that actual moment where it was happening right in front of you and
Starting point is 00:36:04 realize you were turned on. Like before that, right? Like, if somebody would have asked you whether you would have been jealous if your guy hooked up with another girl, like, would you have been like, yeah, definitely? Or were you always sort of like... Oh, 100%. It broke my heart to think about him with anybody. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:21 That's what I was getting at right. But yet, when it actually happened and it was going on right in front of you, you somehow got turned on. I love it. Yeah, that's interesting, right? Yeah, it was awesome. Mm-hmm. So there you are.
Starting point is 00:36:33 you're like oddly attracted to the fact that this girl now is like hitting on your husband, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so keep on. Yeah. So then we like they, we played truth or dare. Um, and there were a couple of things where they like looked at each other and they're like,
Starting point is 00:36:53 we're going to have to leave that one for later. It like got really right, like kind of, um, just really sexy. It was like one of those truth or dare apps, one of the stupid three ones on your phone. but there was a couple of things like, oh, kiss the person on your right or whatever. And a couple of them, I guess, they said we need to take upstairs. And so we went upstairs and they like, her dare was to give us both a lap dance. Uh-huh. And so we're like sitting here on either corner of the bed and this girl is just like,
Starting point is 00:37:24 and she like dances on me first and then goes to dance on Josh. And then they just started making out. and I really liked it. And so I, like, liked it. And I just kind of encouraged it, and we kept going, and then it turned into this threesome. But it was mostly both of them, anything like real sexual,
Starting point is 00:37:44 it was both of them with me. You know, they weren't really doing a whole lot with each other. Okay. But then after a while, I was kind of like, all right, I'm good. Like, you too, take your time and do what I'm, and, like, watching him fuck her
Starting point is 00:37:59 was the hottest thing that I've ever seen in my whole life. Wow. It was like so amazing. And like you said, you would, and I'm just saying this for other people that are listening, right, that maybe think like they could never, you know, sort of have that happen and be into it. Like you would have never thought that you would. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Oh, it never crossed my mind. And when he brought it up, because he brought up having a three-sum, and it hurt my feelings. Right. I really didn't want to do that before. I was really not okay with it. I thought that I was gonna, I thought I was really doing it for him because I love him. Like, I want him to have the things that he wants.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So that's why I thought I was doing it. But when we got into the moment, I was like, no, this is for me. Right, right, right. And you didn't, and even after it happened, it wasn't like you had, like, you had, like, issues with it. And you were like, oh, my God, what the fuck did he just do? Like, you were like, okay with it?
Starting point is 00:38:50 No, he had a harder time with it than I did. He was like, he's like, are you sure you're okay? I just want to make sure you don't think I, like, I enjoyed that too much He was really cautious Well of course Because if you really think about it
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's like that's why I'm asking you The questions I'm asking you Because I think most people The majority of people think Like they would never be okay with that right And you know So he's just assuming that maybe like you got caught up In the moment
Starting point is 00:39:16 But afterwards you're going to be like Oh my God You know it's almost like too good to be true for him right He's like you were like you know Yeah he's got it pretty good Yeah And that fact that you really liked it and you, and it was, you were okay with it, you know, was great for everyone involved.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yep, exactly. But soon after I realized that she really wanted more of a relationship than I could give her, like a more of an emotional relationship. With you? And, yeah, like, she wanted to be, she wanted us to have, like, a polyamorous relationship, and she wanted to move in and get married and blah, you know, and I just, that was more than I really wanted. So that relationship ended soon after.
Starting point is 00:39:57 and I kind of have tried to avoid that again because I felt bad. I felt like I let her on and I really like her as a person and we're still friends but I still feel bad because I know she was really emotionally invested in me. Right, but she knew going in what the deal was, but that's the thing with girls that had just happened sometimes, right? Especially because you were like really good friends and spending time with her and allowing her to take you on dates and stuff. I mean, that's probably where you went around.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yeah. You know what I mean? Have you been with any other girls since? Yeah. So there's been, I kind of decided that for me, the best part of it was like Josh getting it. Yeah. I keep saying it as me.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Do you want to take them out? I mean, no, it's not a big deal. No, no, don't worry about it. Okay. The best part of it for me was him getting it. I just really enjoyed it. And it's not like I'm like a voyeur or whatever. It's called where I like watch it.
Starting point is 00:40:57 it's just knowing that that he's wanted by someone else in that way, you know? That really puts me on. And so my kind of goals and, like, intention throughout every
Starting point is 00:41:12 extramarital relationship that we have is for him. I really, and so I'm not... Meaning that you want him to have sex with somebody else and you want to watch? Yeah. Yeah, basically. I could be involved
Starting point is 00:41:27 or I don't even need to be there. Like, we've gotten to the point where basically he has a forever halt pass. He can fuck whoever he wants, whatever he wants, as long as I know about it, and there's not, like, an emotional relationship there as well. Oh, Molly, Borman, you've come a long way. Because I just like that for him. And I get that I'm not always 100% of the time going to do everything for him. And he travels, and I'm like, that would be really fun for you.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Like, go to a bar, find somebody to hook up with. That's awesome. But okay, I know that you want that for him, but do you get something out of it, though, also for yourself, right? Like, is it that it makes you horny to think about it? Like, does he sort of let you know when someone's, when he's on the road and someone, he fucks someone before or after? Like, what, where do you come into play in all of it? Because there's got to be something you're getting out of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah, totally. In a couple of ways. One, like I said, just knowing that other women want him, that he's desirable. You know, that it's not just me because I love him. It's also that he's just like really hot. Okay. So there's that. But also, you know, sometimes he'll like come home and be like, and tell me about it and almost like reenact it.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And that's really sexy for me as well. Like I really like that. Uh-huh. So, so yeah, there's definitely like benefit to me in it. But I think from an outsider, like outside looking in it looks like it's more for him. You know what I mean? Well, no, because the reason why I ask you that is because you said like, I do this for him.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I want him to be happy. Like you, you're sort of making it like it's all for him, but it did start out like being for you and then you realize like you were turned on by it. So I feel like you're involved in it. I mean, he gets the free pass. But you're getting something out of it too.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I mean, the part of his free pass is for you as well, right? How many girls do you think he's fucked since you guys, he's had the free pass? We haven't been married for a year. That whole situation with that girl, only happened back in August.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Oh, okay. And then we took a little break because she was so into me. I just needed one's face. Yeah. And then there's been, I think, two girls since then that he's actually gone through with it with. And he's really, he's really cautious about it. He really wants to just make sure that I know that I'm his number one priority
Starting point is 00:43:49 and that I'm, and that everything else is just kind of silly and fun. and so he's not like going out every night taking advantage of that, you know what I mean? Right, and he's not having, like, I mean, are you concerned, like, are there any rules and regulations that you guys have with each other with each other with this kind of stuff? Like, I mean, does he sort of establish a friendship with these women, or is it strictly have to be like a one-time thing?
Starting point is 00:44:12 I mean, have you guys discussed anything like that? Yeah, one of the girls that he's kind of like, and with her it's like progressed a little bit because we tried to do like a couple swap and that didn't go well. Why not? I love the story that don't go well. They're kind of funny sometimes.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Why did it not go well? Well, we really liked these people. We met up with them. We found them on kick, actually. But we, like, met up with them, went to dinner, and really liked them just as a couple
Starting point is 00:44:45 and thought we could be friends with these people. So we, like, ended up going to a hotel after, we hung out a few times. So then went to a hotel, and it was pretty apparent that she was, like, forcing it, and he wasn't into it. Like, this, her husband didn't want to do any of this or be in any sort of the lifestyle. Oh, interesting. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah. And so my husband and her are on one bed, and him and I are on the other, and we're, like, making out. But he kind of kept looking over there and was just distracted and would just, like, stop and, like, just start hugging me really tight. I'm like, and, and just, like, kind of tell me, he's like, I'm really struggling with this. I'm having a hard time, you know? Oh, poor guy, right. He wasn't into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. Yeah. And so, so we just kind of stopped. And, and then my husband, too, was like, I didn't really like seeing you just another guy. Like, like, I don't want you to feel like I'm not letting you do that, but, but it really, like, it hurt my feelings, you know? And he didn't like it. And I didn't get anything extra out of it. either.
Starting point is 00:45:55 You know, I would, and so I'm fine not being with any other guys. Uh-huh. And so that's kind of when we decided to set that standard of like, yeah, you can go and be with whoever you want. And I'm not going to. And I'm fine with that. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:08 So. Like, if that's what makes sense for you guys, that's cool. But I'm more concerned with like the emotional sort of aspect of your, your guy with the other, with these women, right? I mean, you, like, as far as like, you know, if he picks up a girl, like, have you sort of discussed like boundaries with that or are you pretty open like go do whatever you want and if like because like what if he fucks a girl and like she's really cool and it's like someone that he you're not around when it happens right and then like he gets her number and they
Starting point is 00:46:38 keep fucking and they're fucking for like you know you might want to like I just have to be able to see the messages I that's that's our rule is that I get to see all texts and messages and correspondence and if I feel uncomfortable about anything I tell him to stop and he stopped. Right. And has that ever happened? I mean, it's only been a couple months, right? Yeah, no, we haven't really had that on my end.
Starting point is 00:47:03 We have on his end where he said, you know, I'm not comfortable with this. And so we stopped me being with any other guy. No questions asked. I feel like he doesn't have to explain himself as to why he doesn't want his wife kissing other men. You know? But let me ask you this. He's okay with watching you with another woman though, right? But he just doesn't want to see you with another guy.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Right. Right. And you like to see him with the other girl. And like when he's with the other girl, he could make out with them, like do all kinds of things. Like you're okay with everything. Oh, yeah. There's no rules or regulations there. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But I think that's smart. I think that's smart that you have that thing where you will look at the text and stuff. Because you don't want there to be any complication with like sort of any kind of emotional stuff going on. It's like you're going to know that she's respectful of our relationship. Yeah. Because like listen, look what happened. Women are wired differently than men, right? And sometimes when women have sex with the same person, because if it's someone that he sleeps with on the regular, right?
Starting point is 00:47:57 Like that hasn't happened yet, right? Because it's you just started, right? But like, look what happened with that girl with you, you know? Sometimes with girls, like when they get, they keep sleeping with the same person, it's very hard. It's much harder for a woman for some reason to keep their emotions out of it, you know, than it is for a man, right? So I think like your husband obviously is totally into you, gets the fact that he's got it fucking, made and his, you know, wants to do this on the up and up, right? So that his relationship with you last and he could go do his thing. But he's not looking for, you know, to have a fucking affair or anything. But you have to, you know, make sure that it doesn't happen on the girl's end, right? Where she gets too into him. And that's why it's good that, you know, you're watching that shit and you'll pay attention to it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And it's like, you know, you'll look at his stuff because you don't want that to, you don't want stalkers. Like, right. you also don't want him to get it sort of attached to somebody else but that wouldn't happen like the only reason why something like that could be a problem I think you guys are super young and your
Starting point is 00:49:02 marriage is new and you guys are seem like really great together you know it would be like 10 or 15 years from now when your relationship hits like rough patches and stuff where you know those kind of board of each other yeah but he that he could maybe stray not just sexually
Starting point is 00:49:18 but like emotionally right like maybe you have kids and you're not paying attention attention to him. You know, because like men do sometimes stray emotionally, but most of the time it's because they're not getting something at home from somebody right. But it just seems like that's not even close to being the case with you guys. So I, you know, you don't have to worry about that now, you know. But like moving forward, you know, the more you guys do this and you're going to keep keep. Because like how do you like, where do you go from there, right? Like it's he could sleep with whoever he wants. Do you still want to sleep with girls or do you think maybe in the future you will or
Starting point is 00:49:51 sometimes you'll get it on the action? I mean it's like a three-son. Yeah, I probably won't ever really seek that out just for myself. Unless I'm really bored. Maybe if you've out of town for a while or something. Right. You need to get laid and you want to. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Uh-huh. And you don't want to go be with another guy. You're not going to cheat on him, right? Right. Yeah, I can imagine. I can imagine having a girl and bringing her home if my husband's out of town. I mean, I would do it well. He's in town, too.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Right. But, yeah, otherwise, I'm not, yeah, I'm not really going to seek that out. We have talked about a little bit about, like, because he's always said, like, oh, I feel like we have this double standard where I get a three-sum and you don't, right? Yeah. Where, like, I get two girls, but you don't get two guys. And, I mean, that turns me on, like, the whole idea of being, like, Eiffel Tower. Oh, my, that would be a dream.
Starting point is 00:50:49 What's Eiffel Tower? How do I not know what this means? What is that Eiffel Towered? Oh, like having one guy in front, like you're on all fours, and there's a guy in your mouth and the guy behind you, you know? Oh, that's called the Eiffel Tower. Oh, funny. All right, I get it.
Starting point is 00:51:05 I get why they call that. Okay, so you, so that kind of turns you on, and what have you guys discussed about that? He says eventually he'll be able to get there, but he's just not ready, and so I'm not pushing it or like, like I'm not bummed that he's not ready I just it just is like so I'm fine with
Starting point is 00:51:28 if that never ever happens if it never happens I'll be fine but if it does great right if it does you be you'd be down for it like right now you're happy your needs are being met sexually like I get that like I would have booty calls when I was younger like and I would just like
Starting point is 00:51:42 when I didn't have boyfriends like I'd have like one guy that I would sleep with just because I wanted to have sex right I didn't want to be sexless right but I wouldn't care he could like screw whoever he wants but I only screwed him because like I didn't have a need for variety. I think women don't have that need as much as men, right? We're just different that way, right? And it's like there's nothing better than having one person that could turn you on that like
Starting point is 00:52:04 you're with and that sex is like great with that person. You don't need like 10 other people, right? But guys have a sort of need. They do like variety more and it is a thing for them, you know? Not to say that there's not women like that and vice versa, right? You can never put everybody in one category. I think the majority are wired that way. So I understand why you're like you go do that and I'm totally fine with not.
Starting point is 00:52:27 It's not like it's not fair. It's like what you're into. I was always sort of wired that way. I was like very monogamous with a guy yet not like I like to sleep with one person. But it doesn't matter if somebody else has the desire to sleep with more. Right. So I totally understand that. But I think that maybe with your guy, do you think like maybe the kissing thing like was like weird?
Starting point is 00:52:50 like maybe if the kissing was out of it and it was just like, you know, no sort of kissing that maybe in the future, you should know out with a guy. Yeah. What he said is that is that one guy is too intimate. So he he'd rather me be with two guys. Oh, so right. The Eiffel Tower would not include him. No, he's not interested in that at all. No. Interesting. He doesn't want any other guy in the bedroom ever. No, he wouldn't even be there. He would not even be there. He would want you to do it without him. He would let you do it without him.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And my husband, he does not, nothing, no anal, no anal anything. Okay, do you do that with him? Oh, I would love to, but he's not interested. So he's anti-anel with you. Yeah. Or anything. Exactly. And so he doesn't want you to do anal with anybody else.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Well, he's okay with me doing it with someone else eventually, just not ready for that. That's kind of where it came from is like, that's part of it. Is that something that I want? And I want, I've never had it. I'd never tried it. And I'd like to. But he doesn't want to. He doesn't ever want to help me with that.
Starting point is 00:53:58 That's not, he's just really, really not interested. Okay. And so, and so we've kind of discussed, like, well, maybe eventually we could find somebody to do that. But the thing is, I don't want, the first time I do that, I don't want it to be with, like, some guy that I've never had sex with before. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I should have some sort of a sexual relationship. with him first. Like, that's not a baby step.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Right. Right. So, so, so that's kind of where that came from of, like, let's venture out and think about being with other guys as well. And then we tried that couple's thing. Because he was like, maybe that's a good way to introduce it to me is like, I'm getting something at the same time, so I'm not just thinking about it, getting jealous or whatever, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And it wasn't like this, he didn't experience what you experienced, whereas, like, he always, felt like he wouldn't be into it and then when it happened he changed his mind like when it happened he was as not into it as he thought he would be right exactly exactly yes he was right he was absolutely right about it he thought he would feel right he wasn't he wasn't into it yeah so so now i kind of like like i'll flirt online like i've got a kick that i'll like i'll flirt online and and do that but that's about that's about it for me when it comes to other extramarital sex otherwise he's great. As far as with other guys,
Starting point is 00:55:21 but it's so interesting to me that he's like, oh, maybe in the future, or I'll definitely let you, like, screw two other guys without me. Yeah, the more the better.
Starting point is 00:55:32 He's like, five is great. He was like, five guys, I'm good with that. How many? Five? As many as I can fit,
Starting point is 00:55:41 I guess. So let me ask you this. Would you be into doing that? That's called a gang bang, I think, right? Yes. Is that a fantasy of yours? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I would love that. Wow. That poor bishop is missing all the good stories. I'll tell me to listen to your podcast. I love it. Exactly. Yeah, no, I would love that. And he knows that and he wants that for me.
Starting point is 00:56:08 He knows that it's like a fantasy of mine. But I'm fine without it. If it never happens, I'm okay. And so I think he appreciates. that is that it's not like an absolute need for me and so he can get it to me when he's ready you know what I mean yeah I think that's like listen it there's so there it's like it's like it's so much about communication right and it's just like look like you guys are two people that are just really open and honest with what your needs and desires are and like you're in it it it's you're cool with each other about it you know what
Starting point is 00:56:38 I mean I think because you're allowed to be open with him and let him know and he's honest enough to say like I don't want that right now you know what I mean and you're like you're like okay that's fine you know but like everything's out on the table I think that that just like really releases a lot of stuff right is whereas like a lot of those people that are cheating and living double lives and I think it's all because it's all stuffed inside right like there was something I read recently there was somebody sent me it was actually a listener of my show sent me an article about like about secrets how like unhealthy they are and they said like you don't like you don't have secrets you own secrets or there was like some quote that was like so brilliant it wasn't
Starting point is 00:57:14 Like, you know, so when people are doing secret things, it just becomes like this whole thing, you know. And it just gets more pent up. And I think then the desire just builds. And that's why people can't hold it anymore. They have to go scratch the fucking itch, right? But I think when you're really open about stuff and you could talk and you could let that energy, whatever it is, right? That desire out and, you know, out of your mouth and talking about it with somebody else. It doesn't get so built up where you need to do it.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Do you know what I mean? Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because we'll talk each other through it too. Like, okay, what part of that do you like? Right.
Starting point is 00:57:49 All right. Well, are you sure? That's what you're, you know, and you're able to, instead of just it, like, going around and, like, back and forth in your head, just, like, from wall to wall in your head, it's, like out, and you can lay it out and discuss all the details of it. Yeah. And what you actually like and whatnot. So you do.
Starting point is 00:58:06 You release it. You just release. Yeah. Yeah. And when it's stuck in that little head of yours, if someone's bored and they got a little time in your head, what happens? what happens is it bounces back and forth and then you start to get horny and you start to make it into this whole big thing and then you get like pleasure out of that thought and then the more
Starting point is 00:58:21 you do that and then then you have to go actually do it in real life and then you can't tell anyone about it because no one's known about this and then now you're living a double life and you're cheating on the person that you love you know and maybe you never wanted to do that but that just happened whereas I think it's like really great you know when you and your husband are an example of the fact that like when you could be honest and open about what you desire sexually and not feel bad about it. Especially it's amazing that you are able to do that, considering where you came from, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:50 and like what was put on you as a child, you know? Like, for real. Yeah. You know, and that you had all this stuff. You would think you'd feel a lot more guilty and a lot more conflicted, yet you were able to sort of resolve all that stuff and move on and be very open within your relationship and your marriage. And it's all good.
Starting point is 00:59:10 You know what I mean? It's just a positive thing. There's nothing salacious about. You know what I mean? There's nothing naughty or bad about it. You just, right? It's because it's everything's on the up and I think some people think that takes away from like the sexual stuff. Because some people say like the the thing that nobody knows is a part of sort of the fantasy.
Starting point is 00:59:28 But I think like, you know, even if you let things out and you do them, they probably still be just as hot if you're fucking on the up and up. Yeah. I mean like I'm sure you're all the sex that you've had and the stuff that you're doing is like really hot, right? and great. Like, it doesn't need to be secret, secretive, right?
Starting point is 00:59:46 Right. Do people... Yeah, and I mean... Yeah. I mean, it's a different experience for him when we're having a three-thum and I'm part of it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 That's one thing. And it's a whole other experience when, you know, they sneak down to the basement and they're on their own. You know, and both of them
Starting point is 01:00:05 are okay with me, right? Yeah. So both of them are really hot. So there's still variety in that. And there's still sexiness in it because they're like kind of not, you're not there, you're upstairs, they're doing it someplace else, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So you could make it still naughty in some way, right? And hot. Exactly. But still be sort of honest with each other about it. And I think that that's like good for people to know that are maybe in a relationship or maybe for much longer than yours and like have hit a wall that maybe you could open stuff up like this and be successful. Because, you know, we all, I have a lot of people on that have open relationships and
Starting point is 01:00:40 some go horribly wrong. and some don't, you know, and I think because you guys are early on, I've always said like, oh, you got to be into the double digit years before you do any of the stuff, but like, you're, you're not even, you know, I hear that. You just started double digit. You just did double digit years in your life. I mean, you're just 22, you know, but I always say that one thing I do always say is like the younger generation is just like so much more evolved and just different people than like my generation was, you know, so, and I think it's like great because you guys were all doing these things and you're much more open and much more, you know, experimentive, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:15 experimenting doing things that the people like at my age could never do, you know, so you live in a different world. And I think that that's great, you know. And so I think it's, it's changed things. So I don't think you have to be in a double digit relationship anymore. I think maybe people my age do because we grew up in a different time and it's different. But younger people, it's everyone's trying these things out more than, you know, they're not, you know, because I think people have seen and known for a long time that the whole 100% monogamy for 50 years is like
Starting point is 01:01:45 didn't really work for most people right so people are trying different things out and I think that it's great and like I said it's like really amazing that you guys have are doing it considering you were Molly Mormon you know so if a Molly Mormon you can do it
Starting point is 01:02:03 but you know it's like it's just it's a good story because there's nothing like I said like nothing like sort of sort of secretive about it you know it's all on the up and up and open and there's no you know shame involved right it's all right thing you're newly married you're having a great time and uh I think it's great I'd love to talk to you 10 years from now we see where yeah but I think it's like really it's all sounds good now there's no problems full steam ahead I can't wait till you have your gang bang or your your Eiffel Tower Is that what it's called the Eiffel Tower?
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yeah. Until you're... Yeah, you think... It's like, it's like a dream to be like, all right, boys, let's go to Paris. You know? Right, right, right, right. That's what you... That's your fantasy.
Starting point is 01:02:55 That's what you want to do, and you would do it in real life. And so listen, when that happens, if it happens anytime soon, like, or anytime it happens, I mean, I don't plan on time if I guess let me know and we'll have you back on. Because, like, let me tell you, my listeners are always love hearing from women that are open about the fact that they like really love sex and they're into like all these different things because they think like guys feel like they are right but they can't find women that are they don't believe that you know right make them feel bad but there are women out there right women love sex right and they're into open that you know they're into all different
Starting point is 01:03:27 things is the same thing like guys right you just got to be open and honest with each other so but you know people will want to hear more stories from molly the Mormon so when you got more come back on the show yes I will, absolutely. All right, thanks for calling in, Molly. Yeah, thank you. Good luck with everything. I'll talk to you soon, hopefully.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Okay, yeah. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audio book.
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