Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 221 - Molly Recently Became an Escort

Episode Date: March 12, 2018

Molly (episode 190) recently signed up to be an escort and she calls in to talk all about it. How did she become an escort? How much does she charge? What have her first experiences like and did she e...njoy them? Tune in for all the juicy details which include how she got fisted by an eighty four year old "john.' As an added bonus Molly's long term booty call guy named Scott calls joins the conversation to talk all about the threesome she recently had that he filmed and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:51 strictly anonymouspodcast.com and click on be on the show. I wrote a book. You could buy the book. It's all about my terrible relationships. It's very revealing. It's a little like, like a lot of stuff about me. So if you want to know more about me because you've been listening in my show, buy my book, you'll find out a lot of interesting things. And, you know, you can buy that book on my website, tricklingamaspodcast.com, click on buy the book. I was going to say something else, but I lost my train of thought. Today I'm on a girl named Molly. Now don't get this Molly confused with the Molly that I just had on. The Mormon Molly, she disappeared after I taped her,
Starting point is 00:02:23 but this isn't about Molly the Mormon. This is Molly that I had on a while ago. She says, our third time calling in. People love Molly's episode. It's still one of like the most downloaded episodes because it's, the shit she does is like hardcore. As a woman, you know, I get a lot of guys. I call them that do a lot of crazy things, actually, but Molly's a female and she does a lot of things sexually that most females don't do, or maybe they just don't talk about it. But Molly does, and so you can listen to her other podcasts. I think one of them is 190, and I don't know what the first one is. But go check her out. This is an update. to Molly's last podcast. And she became an escort for my sort of suggestion, which sounds really
Starting point is 00:03:07 horrific probably if you're listening to this and you don't know anything about Molly and you don't know me and you're like, why would you ever tell someone to go be an escort? But to know Molly and to know how she feels about sex and what she does is to understand why I would say that to her. So that's what we talk about. We talk about like how she got into it. She just started this recently. what actually goes down. And we get into a lot of specifics, like what happened with it. The most interesting part of this podcast is what happened with the 84 year, I think it was like 84, 83 year old guy.
Starting point is 00:03:42 She had sex with while she was escorting. You won't believe what she did with that guy. And she enjoys herself, let me tell you. And she talks all about that. And then at the end of the podcast, we had a call in from one of her booty call guys, her friends of benefits. And we talked to him and we talk all about like a threesome. It was no.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It was like a threesome that he filmed. So I guess it's like a foursome. I don't know. You got to hear all about that too. That's at the end of the podcast. It's like the last 30 minutes because this podcast is long. So that's what we discuss and a whole lot more. So I'm going to get right to it and be back on with Molly.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Hey, Molly, formerly of episode 190, Molly. I was just looking through your episode before, like,
Starting point is 00:04:59 because I was like, you know, I wanted to remember the number for people so that they could go listen to it. I was like reading the description. I forgot about it. Because there's a couple stories from that first podcast that stood out in my mind that I thought of, but I forgot about the foursums and the gangbangs and the threesomes and the fivesomes that you've had with people. You know, that's who you are. You've been on my show.
Starting point is 00:05:21 This will be your third time, right? Yeah, it is. Yeah. And last time when we spoke, you were talking about all the sex that you're having. The actual one. And so people could listen to that episode is episode 190. and I'm sure a lot of people want to go listen to it
Starting point is 00:05:35 if they haven't already, right? But the one thing that really stood out in my mind, the story and the reason why I told you to go become a high-end escort is because you told the story about how like you went to Vegas and like while you were like at the airport waiting for your flight,
Starting point is 00:05:48 you were like hitting up random guys. Like people you had not even met right? Yeah. Like fuck them and you had like a quickie like some guy hit you up and like drove to the airport picked you up.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You fucked him in his car. and then you went back to like in the airport parking lot and then went back and got on your plane like that's, and you had done like five guys that day and he was like your fit. Yes. Right. And like you don't do this drunk.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You don't do this anything. Like used to be like a relationship girl. You became single and you've been living out all your like fantasies and everything. And you totally love it. And I was like, I mean, probably to a lot of people's horror. I was like, you should probably be like a high end escort. Like there's a couple places right where it's legal or one place, right? Where it's legal.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And I was like, why don't you go do that? Because like you love sex so much, right? Like you could probably do that, right? And like I said, I'm sure I horrify people by saying that. I'm sure people are horrified listening to it now. And because you took my advice. Like you have, you have, you're like a high class escort with some stories to tell me already. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah. Yes. Well, I'm still new at it. Right, but still. Yeah. Well, I actually, after about maybe a week or two after we had taped the last podcast, I had met a guy off of, I think it was Ashley Madison, which is I think the only guy I've ever met off there. And we had met for dinner or something. And he was talking about, you know, people he had met off the site.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And he said that he had helped one of them become an escort. And I was like, oh, my God. How weird. Right. Because I was just speaking with somebody about that. and he was really excited to help me out with it. And he told me that it's not as, you know, it's just not as easy as posting an ad.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I mean, I mean, you can, but to have it more of a legit sort of, you know, not back page kind of. Right. And to do it more high end escort, right? Like that kind of a thing. Yeah. Where you can actually, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:51 it's more of a quality clientele sort of thing. Yeah. So, and he kind of told me what the process was, which was, you know, there are sites where they are reviewed and that's kind of where it all stems from is your reviews, how many reviews you have, how good the reviews are. And I didn't know any of this. And that there's like kind of a community of people and getting introduced to some of those people and this net. So we had actually started kind of the process he was going to start me, you know, like a page on one of those sites.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And we had met maybe twice, but then it just got too difficult with coordinating. He didn't live close to me. This was the guy you were banging? Like you started to have sex with. Did you have sex with him ever? I don't think we did. Okay. I honestly don't think we did.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Because we only met once for that dinner. And then I don't think we did that night. And then the other two times we met were to build this website. Right. But then it just got too difficult meeting each other. Right. So whatever. But he hooked you up with everything.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Well, he started to. Right. And then I was just, I got frustrated. and I was like, you know what, I was busy at the time doing other things. So I was like, you know what, let's just hold off and, you know, maybe come back to this some other time. Well, and then it just kind of faded away and I actually never even saw him again. The way this started was it was a random Craigslist ad. Oh, so you forgot about the, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:09:19 You forgot about the high end kind of thing and all the stuff that he told you about and you wound up. No. I'm confused with that. Where does Craigslist come into play? The Craigslist, there was an ad on Craigslist from someone seeking girls. Yeah. For her, she called it a modeling agency. Wait, but wait, but one second, just because I want to like, I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:09:42 So all that stuff that he told you to do, you set up a site and everything, and you went on there and he set up a page for you. And did you get any action from there or nothing really happened because you didn't, like, pull the trigger on it? Like, you didn't, like, sort of finished you working on it? Like, were you in business? on those sites at all? No, we didn't get very, we had started the process, but we hadn't gotten very far into it. Okay, cool. Before I was like, well, we'll come back sometime when we're both, you know, a little bit more available. And then I just never did. Okay. So then you saw Craigslist ad. What were you looking for? What were you on Craigslist looking for dudes to bang or girls?
Starting point is 00:10:16 You know, I just sometimes go, I actually found it under the gigs section. Uh-huh. And I just sometimes just look and see if there's just anything interesting or sometimes. I just like to read them. Sometimes I just like to laugh at them. Just when it's, you know, late at night, I can't sleep or something. That's kind of some of the things that I read. And I read the ad and it just, like I said, it's easy to read for me anyways to read ads and know if they're decent people behind them, writing them. You know, not like, let's go bang in my car, you know, at 8 o'clock. No, I don't want to do that. Come on. But Wally, you are the girl that banged a guy in your car at the airport.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I'm not going to answer to add that ass for that. Right. Okay. So I, yeah, she just said submit, you know, two photos. And they weren't nude photos. I don't even take nude photos. You can take sexual photos without being completely, you know, crass and nudes. So I just sent two.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Actually, one was just a normal one and one was just me in lingerie. It wasn't really much anything. What did the ad say? It just. I'm trying to remember. It was fairly lengthy. And it said, like, you know, we're not the people who will take advantage of you. But I mean, is this being done in a place where it's legal to be, you know, an escort?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Or is this taking place in a place where it's illegal? Because I'm just wondering. It's illegal. Okay, so how do they put, how do they freeze it so it's not sort of blatant? You know what I mean? Well, they advertise it as a modeling agency. Oh, okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:57 that's what I meant. So they're looking for models. Yeah, but there's pretty obvious things in there that's not a modeling agency. But there's really nothing that anyone can go after them for because of the wording. A lot of it's all in the wording. If there's, you know, one extra word that says, you know, something that can insinuate it. Right, right. Well, that's the way they, you know, that's the way you read it. You read it as we were insinuating. You know, this to us is, you know, there's any sort of legal action or anything. Right. So you knew what it was. You know, that's the way. You know, that's the way. You know, you know, it was. You know, you know, you knew it wasn't a modeling gig. Right. But you knew it wasn't porn like you, because I mean, I just feel like there's probably a lot of stuff that they're looking for girls maybe to shoot porn or they're looking for people to be escorts. You know,
Starting point is 00:12:37 or they're looking for people for happy ending places. I mean, was it obvious that it was like an escort service? Yes. Okay, cool. So it was very obvious. And I wish I had the ad in front of me so I could let you know what was said. But it was very obvious that it was well written.
Starting point is 00:12:53 This wasn't somebody, you know, looking for, oh, you know, I'm looking for someone big busted to be in my video. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, and this was pretty obvious to me. And I just, and it seemed to be written by a female, you know, she said she was and which ultimately she was a female, which was another thing that I was looking for. Actually, I wasn't looking for anything, but if I were to be looking for it, I would
Starting point is 00:13:17 be looking to work for a female. Right. So you sent in your pictures. Mm-hmm. I sent in my pictures and she got back to me right away and said, you sound like you'd be perfect for us. Because she's, I'm a little bit older. I mean, I'm under 40, but I'm, you know, not 22.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah. How old are you again? I'm 38. Okay. So. But some people are looking for that. So I'm sure they just like variety, right? Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And that's what she liked about me was that I wasn't the 22 year old in experience. You know, yeah, they're fun, but, you know, they don't have, no offense to younger girls. But a lot of them don't have a lot of substance or a lot of worldview. or a lot of... Right, every guy's looking for some guys, want to actually talk to somebody a little, or have like that, right. It's a different kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:14:02 So I think that it's good to have like all kinds of girls probably in their little stable. Yeah, yeah. There's something for everybody, you know. Yeah. I'm sure those, the 22-year-old, you know, let's say blonde bimbo, for like a better term,
Starting point is 00:14:15 that's what people, you know, there are many people out there that want that and that's fine. Yeah. But there are people that don't and want, you know, the kind of older, milf is what she used Yeah, totally, of course. Yeah, and the same guy, listen, the same guy that wants a hot 22-year-old piece of ass one day,
Starting point is 00:14:33 the next week might want the hot milk. Like, you know what I mean? It's like whatever floats their boat. Like everyone's looking for variety a lot of times. So, you know, it's not like- And that's what escort agencies provide. Yeah. That variety of, you know, one week you want one thing and next week you want something else.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Exactly. So you go and meet with her? Like, what was the deal? You know what's funny? is I didn't even meet her until after I started working. Really? So you sent in your pictures and then what did she say back to you? She, because she was in the major city that's about two hours away. And I let her know where I lived and everything.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And she said, well, are you able to make it down anytime soon? And I said, well, I have three days between this day and this day that I can go. And it was like between a Sunday and a Wednesday, I think. And I was kind of like skeptical. go, and she goes, no, that's what we like. They don't want the weekends. They need the Monday afternoon lunchtime. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So she was actually thrilled that I could come during the week. And so she, I mean, she pays for the hotel and everything. So basically, I just showed up and I was supposed to actually go down. Wait a second, but I'm sorry. I know, I'm sure some of my listeners just want to get to the hot, like, sex stories maybe, but like, and I'm always asking these, like, little detail things because, like, how, How many emails go back and forth before she knows you're not a fucking cop that you know she's not a dude that's like setting you up to be murdered in a fucking plate? Like how does this like, you know, how does it go from like you emailing pictures to you meeting a guy in a hotel room?
Starting point is 00:16:12 And how much is it like how much is it going to cost? Like what details did you guys do? Like how much are you paying her? What are they paying you? Like I want those details. And that's where the initial guy comes in of who was helping me set up everything and then that didn't work out
Starting point is 00:16:29 because he had told me what the process was with the reviews and the websites and whatnot. But this wasn't the same thing. This was through an agent. I think that, listen, I've had a guy on this show that used to be a hardcore, like, high-end escort user, right? So he had told me about these sites where there's reviews and then they also review the guys, right?
Starting point is 00:16:49 so that they, in their own, on their side of things, they could see the reviews on the guys and the girls, you know what I mean? It's like, there's like a lot of famous, um, porn stars on there and like people that you know, you know, whatever. And there's all different ranges from like 500 to like 2000 and whatever. And it's three,
Starting point is 00:17:05 you know, I know all that stuff, right? But we're going through Craigslist, right, in a woman who's a quote unquote madam, like I feel like that's a whole different scenario and it's probably set up differently, right? So what does she say to you after she says, okay, your pictures are great. You could make it during the week. Don't you want to say to her like,
Starting point is 00:17:23 do you say to her like, how much am I getting paid? Does she say, like, are you guys doing this on the phone? Is she leaving paper trails? Like, how does it work out? It's all over emails and text messages. You know, neither of us were using our real emails or our real names for that matter. Right. But what she did, when she was explaining the process to me, she explained the same process as I had already known about. Okay. From the previous guy. So, I mean, if it was somebody who was just wanting to set me up. I don't know if they would do that much research into how, like what goes into this. It's like your own business, but she's setting it up for you and doing all the work. And how much do you charge and how much does she take? Well, she takes, she takes 40%, but she also
Starting point is 00:18:05 pays for the hotel rooms, which is a big chunk right there. Okay, cool. Unless I go over $1,000 a day, then it switches to she takes 30%, which is a little more incentive for me to kind of get more, get through the day with a little bit, with more clients, which is, she's a little pushy about it sometimes where I'm like, like my first day, I mean, I thought I'd maybe have maybe two. And she had me with six, I think. Wait, and how much does she charge for you? Well, it started where she was charging $2.80 an hour. Uh-huh. 160 for a half hour. And I've been doing this a grand total of six days. Right. Where I did three the first time and then three the second time, and I'm up 350 an hour right now. Right. And she wants, and what makes you go up to a thousand if you're with
Starting point is 00:18:54 more guys than she raises your price? Yeah. If in one day, my grand total is more than $1,000. Oh, I get it. Okay. Then she takes only 30% instead of 40%. Right. Not that you're at $1,000. Right. For one shot. Because some of those girls, the really high-end ones, I'm telling you, they get a lot more than that. Oh, for sure. Right. Yeah. So, No one's going to really hire me if there's no reviews. Nobody knows who I am. I could be a fake person. I could have a fake review.
Starting point is 00:19:27 You know, like I said, there's a community of people out there who utilize these escorts. And they all, there's message boards. You know, they talk. Yeah, no, this guy was a professional and he told me all about it. And a lot of them were like actually famous porncers. He never aired anyone's names online, but he sent me in an email. I didn't even ask for the information. of all the people's real names, the rates,
Starting point is 00:19:52 all the stuff about, like, it was kind of interesting because they were people that people would know, you know, from porn, like really, like the ones that you really people know about, you know, the ones with a name. So of course we're getting like a lot of money and you can't get that because like you say, nobody knows you. But you already went up to three something an hour. 3.50, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And what does that include? Like everything is add-ons, right? Like anal and all that stuff. Is that just like basic sex? I didn't even really know this at first until after I got my first review, which was just a couple days ago, actually, that I'm more of the girlfriend experience. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Where I'll, you know, some come in and they just want sex and then leave, and that's fine. Yeah. You know, they're paying for it. But sometimes, you know, I'm, and that's what she likes about me is that I'm a personable person. And like, you know, I'll chat with them for five minutes or more if they want. A lot of guys want that. A lot of guys want that.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I just thought it was being polite. You know, I didn't think it was, I was giving them a specific. Right. You're not doing it to be phony. But they probably, that's probably even better the fact that you're not like putting
Starting point is 00:21:01 on a fucking act. You know what I mean? It's just like who you are, right? Yeah. So. And one guy actually said to me, he goes, it was my, I think it was my second or third day. And when we were done, he goes, are you new at this?
Starting point is 00:21:13 And I was like, oh my God. I don't know if that's an insult or not. I mean, it's a show. and he goes, he goes, yeah, it shows, but that's not an insult at all because you take your time. Like most girls are all about the money. They want you in. They want you to come. They want you out. He goes, you are not that person at all. That's the reason why I hate to say this. That's the reason why I told you you should do it. And I don't promote doing something illegal. I told you to do it in a place where it is legal, right? Because you were flying out to Vegas and you're close.
Starting point is 00:21:40 If you're in Vegas, you're close to where you could do it like sort of like legally, right? But, you know, because you actually really like sex. I mean, I've had other girls on here. Like, I had one girl on who said she worked like in a happy ending place, but it was much more of happy endings.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I mean, she was like getting fucking guys sometimes and having sex with them. And so that's kind of like a hooker, right? Kind of, I don't know. Yeah. She wasn't like that into it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:05 once in a while she was, but she wasn't. But like you really like sex. So you probably are enjoying yourself with these guys, I'm assuming, or no. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:13 We're going to get into, I want specifics. We're not just going to gloss over that because I want like the details of the guys but like basically you're doing it because you like sex right? Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I love doing it. And like I said, it's all in the wording like the money is what we call a donation. And it's never discussed. They just come in and they put the donation on the counter and then that's. Yeah. So that way it's not illegal. For me to say I'll do this and this and this. But if you then you have to pay me this.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Right, but we all know that it's not real. Like, I mean, donation, quote, unquote, but like, come on. But let me ask you this, because I remember the guy told me that on these sites that a lot of times it was like, this is an amount that it is an hour, but there's like a three hour minimum. Do you have a minimum or can a guy book you for just an hour? I do a half hour. Most of mine are half hours actually. Oh, really? So you're even available for half hours.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And so you're even available for half hours. Yeah. And I think, and a lot of that does have to do with being new where someone's not going to pay for a full hour and get there and realize that they don't, you're not who they want. So, you know, they'll do the half hour for half the price. And I mean, I've had several repeat clients. And like I said, it's only been a grand total of six days. I had one guy come back twice already. So I've had him three times.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Wow. Okay. So let's go to the first experience, right? So the first thing, like, does she give you information? Do you get a picture? Like, did she give you any stats on the guy? Do you know who, like, you're meeting or, like, not any information at all? Like, when you go to that hotel?
Starting point is 00:23:48 For the most part, she tries to get me the most information that she can. Like, a name and age, a general description. Right. Because sometimes I'll have to meet them, like, down in the lobby because hotels have key cards. Yeah, yeah. Do you go to nice hotels? Oh, yeah. At least four star, if not four and a half star at above.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Right. That's cool. So what was your first guy like? What was the description she gave you? Um, she, a lot of the clients that she books me with were clients of hers. Right. So she'll, she already knows that they're pretty, you know, legit and decent people and they're not going to do anything crazy. Hold on one second. This is my food. Hold on one sec. Okay. Hold on. Uh, yeah, they could come up.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I'm glad you answered because they sent our friend back again. Oh, yeah, no, I knew I had to because I knew where I was ordering from. Okay, thank you. See you later. All right. Bye-bye. Hello? Yeah. Okay. I'm just going to have to go pick up the food when he gets up to my apartment. Do you want to call, do you want me to call back?
Starting point is 00:24:49 No, no, no, I'm not eating now. No, I'm not eating now. I'm eating when we're done. I'm relaxing watching Vanderpump rules. Like, no, I have my whole night plan. No, no, no, but I'm just going to, I just have the, normally sometimes I have them just have the delivery guys leave in front of my door. But this guy does not, this restaurant place,
Starting point is 00:25:07 their delivery guy does not understand English. So he will not know to leave it. My doorman's like, I'm so glad. you answered the phone because this guy will not leave it at your door. Hold on one second. I'm going to go. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Hold on. Let me just plug in something. Okay. Okay. So could you start over again at that point that she, the guys were mostly like her clients, right? They were her clients. So she gave you a good, just so you knew kind of what you were like, what was the
Starting point is 00:26:39 description of the first guy? Just his age, which was, I believe he was my age. and that he was a former or was a client of hers. So she, you know, was able to let me know that he was going to be safe and decent, especially for my first one because I was a little Ted, a little nervous, of course, because it was my first time. And just, you know, average height, brown hair. And how long did he have you booked?
Starting point is 00:27:06 How long did he have you booked for? He had me booked for an hour. Okay. So you go in, you meet him at the hotel, or he comes up. and like you guys have sex? Like how does it work? Like who initiates? Well,
Starting point is 00:27:19 you're the girlfriend experience or do you just start talking to them? Well, I didn't, because it being my first time, I really didn't know what to expect. And like, mind you,
Starting point is 00:27:28 I haven't even met the girl who's setting all of this up yet. Yeah. So, you know, there's still that possibility that this isn't a legit thing. I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:38 that's always in the back of my mind. You know, I've got mace in my purse, you know, just in case. Have you got money from this girl, though?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Like, have you gotten paid for your past six days of working? I get, I'm the only one who gets paid. Oh, right. They pay you. Right. So, right. So, right. So, right.
Starting point is 00:27:54 So, right. So, right. Okay. I mean, I could have easily just walked away with a couple grand in my pocket and sit, but, you know, what good would that do me if I want to keep doing this? Yeah, yeah. So you get to the hotel, but you don't know how it's going to go, right? Because you've never done this before.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Right. Yeah, I have no idea. And he came to the door and he came in and, you know, know, right, we just did kind of like a little preliminary high, how's it going sort of thing. So I just kind of waited for for him to take the lead just because I didn't know what to do. Um, in which he did. You know, we probably kiss for a minute or two. And then, you know, I was like, it was kind of just like any other guy.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Um, where I was just like, oh, I'll just, like, oh, I'll just, like, him a blow job. And if he says no, then I'll stop, which he didn't. So, um, did that. and then we had sex and it probably was about 20 minutes. And you came. Uh-huh. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Because like, listen, I think it's always so disappointing, I think, for guys especially, but when I hear like girls, oh, I'm doing this and I'm like, did you like have fun? Did you? And they're like, no, you know, it's just like at least you're getting something out of it. Like you actually enjoyed yourself. Right. I for sure enjoyed myself. And, you know, even if I didn't, at least I was getting paid out of it.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Right. Right, right, but you actually had an orgasm. But I actually did. And I think since I started, there's maybe been two or three times that I haven't. So for the majority, I do. Right. But that's kind of what makes me pretty, I don't know if I want to say good at sex, but I mean, it's not that hard for me to come.
Starting point is 00:29:35 No, I think that that does make you good at sex because I think that's one of the biggest beefs that guys have for girls. You know, that sometimes that, you know, if it takes them a really long time, because they're not comfortable or whatever. So if a girl is really easy to orgasm, I think that's always a huge plus. Because I don't think that that's the norm. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And a lot of guys have told me that that's what gets them off is watching the girl get off. Yeah, of course. She's having a good time. It's the same thing for women too. Don't you like to know that the guy's into it, you know, right? Right. So I think it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So yeah, definitely that's good. And I think in that world that you're in now, in the escort world, I think, I don't know, I think a lot of girls are good at faking it and girls can fake it pretty easily without a guy knowing. And I think guys are so sort of needing to believe that the girl is really into it, that they believe that she orgasms. But I think a lot of them don't. Well, every time that I have, the guy has said, I know that you're enjoying yourself because I can tell that you're not faking it. Right. I mean, either I am a really good actress, which I'm not, because I am, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Faking it. Yeah, you're not, right. But they can tell that I'm not. So they can tell that the other girls are, because I think that most of them do. I think, you know, especially, listen, maybe if we're talking to you two years from now after you've been doing this a long time, you're going to be faking it all the time. I don't know, right? You're just, you just started, right?
Starting point is 00:30:58 And I, you know, and you're doing it because you really like sex, right? But is the money now actually, like, really appealing to as well? It really is. I'm not going to lie. It's really nice to come home and have, you know, a couple grand in my pocket. And now that day, how many guys did you do? She had you hooked up with how many guys that day? Well, the first night, because I actually ended up going down the night before I had planned on it
Starting point is 00:31:25 because she had somebody booked that she wanted me to start with because it was somebody that she knew. Yeah. So there was just the one that night. And then the next day, I, God, I want to say at a minimum it was five. It might have been six. Right. And so you fucked five guys or six guys the next day. Yeah. And now did you come with every single one of those guys? Do you remember? Not with every. I think maybe there was one that I didn't. I'm trying to, I didn't start making a list until the second trip. So I don't, I wish I could remember. I know that there was one guy that was so good looking. It was almost, it was very intimidating. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And is that the one you didn't come from or is that the one you came from really fast? No, I did. I did. So he was really hot. Yeah. And, you know, and his story was he had just moved here and he didn't know anyone and he really didn't have time to go out and, you know, do the bar scene, the dating scene, this and that. He was just like, you know, guy just needs to get laid sometimes. And that's why he was using the service.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, and I think that it was. Was he good in bed? Yes, yes, very good. Okay, cool. It's weird, it's like, you know, as a female, and this is just something that goes with the territory,
Starting point is 00:32:50 that you're used to guys kind of chasing you or you don't really have to put a lot of effort into it, where when they're hiring you, like, you've got to put a lot of effort into it because you want to make sure, or either getting their money's worth or want to come back. And it's a little weird being on the other side, not saying that I put a lot of effort. Yeah, that is kind of true. Yeah, I wouldn't even, yeah, I wouldn't think of that. I would never know that, right? Because I've never done what you're doing, but that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:33:15 You're right. Like when you're a regular girl and you're going on dates with a guy, you know that like, you know, the ball's in your court more so. It's like a different kind of exchange, right? It's not transactional, right? Right. But in your situation, it's a very different kind of game that's going on. And like you said, there is more pressure on you.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. Like I want them to come back. Like I've heard the quote somewhere where, you know, the guys the dick sales, and the girl's the dick buyer. Right. Where in this case, it's kind of the opposite. And it was just something that I'm not used to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:47 You know, I'm just used to being the girl and like, oh, you want to get laid? Well, then take me out to dinner, you know, whatever, what may have you. Not necessarily with me, but sometimes it does have to have someone buy you dinner. But, yeah, I'd say I have to, I don't want to, because I don't want to say like I don't put forth effort in everyday life. But to have to consciously. be like, okay, I want this guy to come back. You know, I want... No, it's a definitely different thing.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Anyone could understand why it's different, right? Because they're paying, you know, now they're paying $3.50 to see you. But a lot of guys use you for half hour. The second day, you did five guys. Were any of them, like, horrible or like something maybe that you were never not really into as far as, like, body type or, I don't know, like, or were all of them sort of pretty decent and okay that you could get turned on by them? Well, you never know who's going to be on the other side of that door.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Right. That's why I'm asking. That is a little part of the, I mean, it's exciting, but it's also nerve-wracking because you don't know who's going to be on the other side of that door. But I will tell you this, I did a 28-year-old and an 82-year-old in the same day. Wait a second. An 82-year-old and a 23-year-old. 28 and 82. Oh, 28 and 82.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Interesting. Now, was the 28-year-old good-looking? he was good looking and it was probably you know he had got me he was actually staying in the same hotel so i ended up going down to his room he was a little paranoid because he was on a work thing so he had co-workers in the rooms around him so he was a little like i'm surprised he didn't come up to your room that's so funny i don't know why he didn't um because the whole time he was just he was really nervous about people seeing right or leaving or hearing anything like that so i mean when the He was done in 15 minutes and he wanted me out of there as fast as possible, which was fine with me.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Right. I got my, you know, I got paid so I was good to go. But I'll tell you what, when you open the door and there's an 82 year old standing there, it's like, what the fuck? Yeah. Was he attractive 82 year old? No. Right. He was like an old 82 year old.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Right. Maybe like this. I hunched over and bald head. And like, yeah, it was, I didn't even know what to think about it. But I'll tell you what. He not only fisted me, I made him come for the first time in 10 years. Wait a second. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Wait a second. You were going to have to go slowly. Okay. So this 82 year, we're going to talk about this one. This is going to be a good, long, winded story. Okay. The 80, I mean, it could be the title, okay. Molly got fisted by an 82.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Oh, your old guy. Fisted. You said fisted, F-I-S-T-E-D, right? Yes, I did. Okay. So this 82-year-old, you opened the door. right now this how long had he booked you for um it was for an hour for an hour right okay so and do you know that he wanted it was into fisting or anything like did he pay extra for that okay so he in fact i don't even
Starting point is 00:36:51 think he knew so okay so somehow this kid we're going to talk about how that came up so he walks you see him and you're just like are you a little horrified are you like how am i going to get i'm a lot horrified right okay so he comes in and then how like take it from you there. But like, tell me details. Well, that's just kind of like, all right. Well, I mean, I think this was day three. So I was like, this point, I'm just going to go through the motions on this one. Yeah. Like just going to do what needs to be done. Hopefully it'll be over soon. And, you know, well, then he tells me that he can't even get it up. Right. And it hasn't been able to in 10 years, which come to find out later,
Starting point is 00:37:27 that's why she booked him with me was because she thought I might be able to help that out. Because she, he was actually a client of hers. Right. And she hadn't been able to do it. So she was like, well, I'm going to, you know, try this other girl and see if she can do it. And I had had no idea at this point. Yeah. You find all this out later, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah. So he tells me that he can't even get it up. So I was like, oh, well, then this will probably be pretty easy. Yeah. Since I think that's what he just, I figured he just wanted the girlfriend experience where he just wanted to hang out and maybe, you know, cuddle. No, sometimes they want to go down. I had a guy like that on my show. like they want to go down on you they want to do you know what I mean like yeah right and that's what
Starting point is 00:38:10 come to find out that's what he did want and he did and he was really good at it right you know I was able to kind of since I couldn't see his face able to block out the fact that he was an old 82 year old yeah um but then you know I always try to return the favor I mean it's to me unfair to not especially when you're the one getting paid for it so um so wait so he tells you oh by the way I can't even get it up and does he explain I just want to go down on you and you say, okay, so you get undressed and he starts going down on you? Is that what happens? Okay. Yep, that's exactly what happened. Um, so then I said, well, I mean, at least let me try. And he said, yeah, okay, well, good luck. And it did end up, like, probably within five minutes,
Starting point is 00:38:51 he got hard. And it wasn't like a hard, like rock heart or anything. Yeah, yeah, but it was a little harder than he normally gets. Yeah. So, um, he was really encouraged by that. So, but then he was like, well, I kind of need to, you know, I think he was kind of didn't really know what to do with it because it had been so long. Yeah. So, yeah, he, then he just wanted to kind of lay there for a while. And so we did. And then, then he was telling me that he loved me, which I was like, oh, no. Right. And he wants to buy me everything under the sun. And he wanted my number so he didn't have to go through, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. My boss, I guess is what I call her. Yeah. Which I wouldn't do. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Because she's, that's the one major rule that she had was, you know, if you are found to be seeing clients outside of being booked through me, our relationship is terminated, period. Yeah. Like, no questions asked. Yeah. So maybe my third day, I'm not going to fuck it up that fast. Yeah, totally. I'm not going to fuck it up at all. But, I mean, I'm certainly not going on day three.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Well, you know, now I can go off on my own. Like, absolutely not. I have no idea, you know, what's behind the scenes or whatnot. So, and then he asked me to try again, and I did, and he came, and he was amazed that he, you know, and when I told her afterwards, I was like, yeah, he said that was the first time he came in 10 years. And she's like, oh, my God, you did it? Are you serious? I was like, I didn't know it was such a big deal. And she was very proud of me. But how did the fisting come into play?
Starting point is 00:40:27 What was that? How did you get fisted by him? Is that what you said? Yeah, it was after. When did that come into play? I think that was after I made him come where then he was so, I mean, that woke him up somehow where he was just like, now he just wanted to go at it. You know, we didn't have sex, sex, but he wanted to do everything that he could. And he just kind of started fingering me, and then he just kept going and kept going and I kept getting more turned on.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And then it just sort of happened. But have you done that before? I don't remember. Yes, yes, I have. We've talked about that on my show? Um, I'm not sure. Okay. So was this like your first, second time doing it or is this something that you do all the time? Was it something that he brought? Like, do you feel like he was like knowing that that's where he wanted to go? Or were you like, oh, you're the one sort of leading him in that direction? Um, I think it just sort of happened where he was getting further up and then the more further up, the more turned on I was getting. So he just was like, well, unless she tells me to stop, I'm going to just keep going. Right. I was like, unless he stops, I'm just, I'm going to, I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. keep going. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Because you liked it. I liked it a lot, yeah. I mean, it obviously depends on how big your fist is. Right. And, you know, he was an older gentleman. I mean, he was fairly tall for being older. So, I mean, he wasn't like a tiny little man or anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You know, and I've done it, I don't know, between five and ten times maybe. Uh-huh. So it was nothing new to me, but it's certainly not something, not something I do all the time. Right, right, right. But how come when you think with this guy? Was it because he just tried? Because he tried and it was working for both of us.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Right, right, right. And you were turned on. Yeah. I mean, you can't not be turned on to do that, right? Like you said, you were getting more turned on and more turned on. So it was working, right? So it's like you can't fake that. I mean, right?
Starting point is 00:42:24 It's like anal sex. I mean, you can't just have somebody put their dick inside you if you're not into really turned on, right? Because you're too tight. Right. Right. Right. Yeah, I just, I mean, I don't have a lot of guys either try, maybe just because it's not spoken of. Yeah. I mean, if it, there's many times that they have tried and, you know, they don't get very far because of how large their fist is. Yeah. So then I stop it. I mean, obviously, if it's painful for me, I'm not going to do it. But his just kind of, he's right in there.
Starting point is 00:42:57 So he had a small hand or you just have a big vagina now I'm just showing it. I think I've been told many times that I'm very tight. Right. I think it was just kind of an average size. I don't think it was too small or certainly not too big. Right. And he had you really turned on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:15 For an 82 year old, surprised even myself. Yeah, that's interesting. Was it because he was 82, that it was like some things just like so naughty and different? No. No. I don't think it was that it was 82. If anything, it took me more time to get over the fact that he was 82. Right, right, right. But he was really good at going to.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And I think it was also because I had just done a 28-year-old who lasted less than 15 minutes and I was out the door where I was just like, you know, I like to have my fun too. So that wasn't a whole lot for me. Right. So then you came with this guy for sure, right? And do you charge. And you, oh, when he fisted? Yeah, that was the first time in three days that I had even squirted. Like I had been waiting for it to come and finally. With him? Yeah, with him. Wow. You got a high five. the 82 year olds right 82 is that 82 I mean come on look at you had all these the hot guy the 28 year old and is the 82 year old
Starting point is 00:44:12 that gets you to your spirit if this you and can you believe does he should does he know these things and does he know his stats um well I told them like I'm always honest about things like when the when the first guy when we were done and we were chatting I was like just so you know because he was asking me some questions and I I didn't have any answers for him because it was my first time. So I was like, just so you know, like, this is my first time. Like, this is my first day.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Like, you're the first person. And I don't know if he believed me or not. Yeah. But I want, like, I don't lie about stuff. Yeah. I didn't want him to think I was lying, but, you know, that's, it does sound like a line. Right. But it is the truth.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Right. Right. Yeah. But it is the truth. And I tell the truth. And I'm not going to say, you know, you're the first guy that, you know, has made me swear in the three days that I've been doing this without, unless it was true. And, I mean, actually, I think he believes.
Starting point is 00:45:01 me. Yeah. Which it was true, so as well he should have. But I think anybody else would have been like, oh, you're so full of shit. Right. But no, he knew. And then the old man, did he, I mean, has he been a repeat cut? Do you see the reviews that they give you?
Starting point is 00:45:21 I do. I didn't realize how difficult it was to leave a review. Like, you have to be, there's one website. There's a couple websites you can leave. reviews. I have two on one erotic monkey and I have one on, or actually two on the escort review, which is the big one. But you have to be VIP to read or leave reviews. And that's, you know, costs money, which a lot of people don't want to, you know, they don't really want to pay the money. They're already paying for the. Of course, of course. So it's not like it's easy to get tons of the, but you still,
Starting point is 00:45:58 you have three already and you've only been knowing it for six days. So that's not bad. And they're all good reviews? They're all good reviews. Yeah. The one, because two are on one, that's a lesser known site that you don't have to be a paid member to leave reviews. Yeah. And the one that's on the paid site, when she booked him with me, I was already with
Starting point is 00:46:19 someone and she was texting me texting. She's like, you, she goes, I don't care who's in there. Like, you have to get him out because there's someone waiting for you in the lobby. And you, like, do not want to leave him waiting. And so when I got the guy out, I was like, well, what's going on? and she's like, this guy is like the VIP of the VIPs. You get like you pull out all of that. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah. Like he is the one who if he leaves a review, that's going to change everything. Right. Or a good review. Well, either way. Yeah. Bad or good. It will change everything.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And I didn't realize how serious she was being until afterwards. But then, you know, I gave him the experience that I give. Yeah. And I mean, I didn't think I really went up above and beyond. I just gave him what I wanted to. and it turned out like he has followers. He's been doing this for a long time. When he leaves a good review, people know who he is.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Oh, my God, imagine it's the guy that used to call into my show. He was a professional. Oh. Remember? I have a guy that goes on all those things. He sees a lot of girls. Anyway, but I'm sure there's millions of guys like that. So he was, was he the one that said you gave the girlfriend experience?
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that I didn't know. and what else did he say? There were some funny lines in there where, oh, when we first started, I acted like he had just gotten back from war or something like that. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:47:43 But that was because he was trying to explain to people that, you know, I'm really into it too. Like, it's not like, you're going to show up and she's just going to do what she does and then you're going to leave. Like that it's something. And that's what the guy who asked if I was new said the same thing where, you know, I make it because I want to enjoy myself, not just make that, you know. Yeah, yeah, and that's what every guy wants.
Starting point is 00:48:06 But let me ask you this, that guy, the girlfriend experienced guy, did you come with him? Was he a good lay? Like, did you guys have fun? Did you squirt? You didn't squirt with him, only with the age two-year-old, right? No, I didn't. No. I, like, it was pretty much just like every other guy who I had done in the last two days.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I didn't think there was anything extraordinary about it. Um, there was only once, and it was the last client of the last day that I was there the second time, where I almost wanted to apologize to him because I'm so exiled. I mean, it's tiring. Yeah. It's really, really exhausting. Um, and I kind of felt bad that I wasn't at my, you know, top performance. Yeah. Well, after he left, uh, she texted me saying that he's willing to pay $500 for an extra hour.
Starting point is 00:48:56 With you. Would I do it? And I was like, she goes, what did you do to him? And I go, I don't know. Like, I felt really bad. And I wanted to apologize. Oh my God, that's hilarious. Apparently, she's like, he is crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Imagine when he does it for real and you're good next to who you really have a good, a new, you know, a faithful follower. Right, right. Because at your worst, you thought he was willing to like go back for more. I mean, that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it is, it's nice to know that, you know, when you're doing a good job, being told that you're doing a good job, because then it makes you
Starting point is 00:49:31 even better. Yeah, yeah. And like, let me ask you this. Like, after your first time and after, like, this is what's always interesting about you that I've said, is that, like, because you're, like, the rare breed of woman, I think, that, like, does this kind of stuff. And there's not, like, some kind of stuff. You know, like, some girls, like, listen, I acted out sexually a lot when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And a lot of it came from, like, a bad place. It was like I was acting out, right? And it was like, and it was because I didn't love myself and all this other shit. You know what I mean? That I would go, I would talk about with somebody else, right? But with you, there's not that stuff that's going on. It's like you're just like the, right? And I always, I've talked about this on other episodes, right?
Starting point is 00:50:14 It's just like you just really like sex. And this is what you do. And there's nothing sort of going on where like you feel guilty, right? I'm assuming or like really horrified that you did it and really. bad about yourself afterwards, right? Like, none of that is going on. Yeah. I don't feel like that at all.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I mean, I had a good childhood. I, you know, I am divorced, but I had a very mutual divorce breakup. I mean, we're still friends. I really don't have anything in my background that makes me, you know, like the dark place thing. Not at all. Like, I just, it was nice. That's what's interesting about you.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Because I think a lot of times there is that stuff going on. I would say the majority of times, right? But like I've talked to you three. This is my third time. And people could go listen. There's your other two episodes. There's 190. I don't know what the other one is, but it's there.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Just Google Molly on Lipson. When you get the ones before, like the earlier, earlier ones, you have to go to libson.com to find it. But, you know, there's not that stuff going on. It's just like you just really like sex. You have no hangups when it comes to it. And you do what you feel like doing. and you have a good time.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And like I said, there's no sort of freaked out feelings afterwards. And I think that that's great, you know, and that's what guys want to know exist. You know, it's like the fucking unicorn, right? Because I don't think it's common, right? You know, at all. And I remember, I think, saying when I was like,
Starting point is 00:51:45 you should go be an escort, like I would feel bad saying that to anybody else. Like most, I would never say that. And if like a woman called up to me and I talked to her and she was like being really super sexual, and was getting fisted by 82-year-olds and I could tell that there was dysfunction around it, I would probably call her out on it.
Starting point is 00:52:03 You know what I mean? Because I totally get that. But with you, it's a very different sort of situation. And it's not the norm, right? You're more the minority, but I think it's like really great to know that it exists, right? They're not everybody that's doing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:19 They're doing it because they hate themselves or they don't feel good about themselves or it's something that they're like abusing themselves. but you know, it's, you're doing it because you like to do it and there's nothing bad about it when it comes to you because I really believe that everybody makes their own rules and regulations for themselves, right? Like morally, right? So you can't really judge.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Like, I think the worst thing is when you do things that you don't feel good about for yourself, right? Like, I know for me, when I quit drinking, like, I don't have as much sex as I had when I used to drink because when I used to drink, I did things that I didn't want to do. you know what you mean so that was what was wrong you're not doing this stuff fucking high on drugs or drink or or even alcohol or any of that stuff right right and I wondered after like before I actually you know started doing this I was like I wondered if I was gonna feel bad about my yeah afterwards and I don't I don't even think about it because I
Starting point is 00:53:15 don't it's not something where afterwards I sat down and was like God do I feel bad about what I just did no I just it's just it's fun for me and you know it's it's didn't bother me at all. Right. And I think you're like super honest with yourself that maybe like if it ever got to that point where you were that way or if you if it is anything in your life that you think do it. It's like you're just not that person. So that's what I think is great. You know, it's like I don't like to promote sort of doing something because like I said, I do believe a lot of women like whether they're strippers or doing porn or their escorts or doing it because of a lot of like fucked up shit, you know, or reasons that aren't so great. And I
Starting point is 00:53:55 I feel for those women because I acted out sexually a lot when I was younger and it wasn't coming from the right place. But it's not that I'm a person that is so prude either. Like there was always, I always say there was like two things going on when I was younger. There was a part of me that was acting out. But I was always very open-minded sexually and into sex as well. Sex isn't a bad thing. Sex is like a great thing. You know what I mean? You just want to make sure that you're doing it from a positive place. You know, and I think that like for me like now, because I don't drink or do anything. Anything I do I don't do anything I don't feel right about, you know. And the fact that you're doing this stuff, very clear-headed, you know, you're doing it,
Starting point is 00:54:32 you don't feel bad about it at all, and you're enjoying yourself and you're not just doing it for the money. The money is just the added bonus. I think that that's a good thing. And it's interesting. It's interesting to me to hear about because it's not, you know, normal, but it means that like other people exist out there. So you can't just go and judge everybody or assume that that everybody is a certain way, right? Because. Well, and that's why a lot, you know, this kind of thing does get judged by people.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Totally. Why I keep it so secret. There's only one person outside of, you know, the clients and, you know, the people directly involved. Who knows about any of this? Yeah, he's supposed to be on, by the way, we might not make it, but he's, oh, is he here?
Starting point is 00:55:12 He's, we're supposed to. Oh, yeah, we're getting this guy on the phone because you had told me when you called, that's a perfect, that was a perfect way to intro it. You know, you had told me that only one, person knew about it and this was like a friends with benefits guy in your life and that he was willing to oh you have okay so and this was a guy that was willing to come on the show i was like oh we should definitely have him on and he was like stuck in a snowstorm or something but he's like
Starting point is 00:55:38 ready to come on so let's do another like 10 15 minutes with him sure because that was like the perfect intro to him because like you're saying listen and you shouldn't tell people that you do it because most people will judge you they're not going to talk to you for an hour or however many hours i've talked to over this time and really get to know you. Like they would just assume that some things were like, you know, so yeah, it's good that you keep this under wraps. The only thing I, like I've always said, like I don't have a problem with what I do. I certainly don't.
Starting point is 00:56:03 But, I mean, the judgment I get and the looks and the whatever, it's not worth it. Yeah. Just because no one's going to sit there and listen to me, explain for an hour. No, and they're not going to believe you because most people project their own stuff onto people. Do you know what I mean? A lot of times it's a projection of what, you know, so I think it's a very, and people, are super judgmental. I think a lot of people tell me stuff because I'm not judgmental. I'm just not a judgmental person and I think people get that from me. I'm never asking to find like something
Starting point is 00:56:32 bad to judge. I, you know, I just like to, I'm curious, you know, but a lot of people are and and what you're doing. The only thing I worry for you is that you're doing it kind of in an illegal way. You know, I don't know that cops waste their time because they're probably going to these services as well. You know what I mean? That they waste their time busting people or anything like that. But like that's the only thing that I think is bad. You know, I wished that you would have done it in a place where it's legal because there is one place, right, in Nevada that it's like legal. So that's the only thing that I would hate to see something like that happen to you. But I don't think it will. You know, because, you know, it is illegal and it's terrible that it is, right? Because if someone wants to do it.
Starting point is 00:57:21 it. So hopefully nothing ever happens. The world's the oldest profession or whatnot. Yeah. I know that's not the way of the cops see it. I understand that. But the woman that I work for has kind of watched me through, you know, what they look for, you know, how to kind of spot them and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:57:40 You know, it's unfortunate that it's, that it is illegal. But it is what it is. So, and like I said, it's all in wording. And, you know, you know, they're not allowed to show. anything so I always make them take their help first. Right and maybe and maybe the best thing is that you're working with this girl because she's like been in this business for a while and she really knows, you know, and she's handling stuff. So maybe it's a safer way to do it. So I just hope that I just don't ever want anything like that to happen to you because that, you know, you don't want
Starting point is 00:58:10 that kind of thing. You don't want that kind of fucking, you know, and that's the one thing that I would say I think is the bad part of this story. You know, everything else I think it's, it's good. I love the fact that you don't feel weird about it. I love the fact that you're having orgasms. Because like when girls call me up and tell me they love doing it and everything, but they're not calming. That's where there's like, I don't buy that shit.
Starting point is 00:58:32 You know what I mean? And then I feel like there's other stuff going on there. And then I feel kind of bad for them because I was one of those girls that was doing stuff sexually that wasn't right. You know what I mean? But like for you, you don't have that stuff going on. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:45 as long as you don't get busted, it's a good thing for you. Let's get your friends of benefit on the phone. What are we calling in Mark? I just, what were you going to say? And I just want to add that there are a lot of people out there doing a lot worse things than this. And I know that doesn't change the fact that it's not, you know, that it's illegal.
Starting point is 00:58:59 But it's, I mean, it's just sex people. Come on. Well, right. It's not illegal where you're hurting or harming anybody, you know, but I think people could go and say, oh, but if the guy's married, your heart hurting his wife. But, like, you know, listen, I don't think the reason why I do my show is to show that, like, not every cheating scenario is, like, what you think. The guy that used to call into my show, and I had him on many times,
Starting point is 00:59:20 Ray J was his name, I think we called him, I think. He, or Ray, Ray J, so he, his wife was going through can't, like, she was very ill for a very long time, and he couldn't have sex with her, and he was so super in love with her, had never cheated on her before. And he had a lot of money. This is what he was doing, and it was nothing that he, you know, and if you listen, if you really listen to his whole story and you listen, like, you wouldn't sort of judge him that way, but other people would. they would say, oh, like, these are women that are fucking guys that are married and that's terrible. But it's not every guy that's cheating is a cheater in the way that everyone thinks it is and it's terrible. And that's why I like to do my show because I like to show that. It's all different scenarios.
Starting point is 01:00:03 You have to listen to the whole story. Yeah. And I did have someone who was in a similar situation. You know, his wife, they had a family and they were in love and they were, you know, everything was great except for the sex part. She just was not interested. Right. Because it was sometimes when women go through manopause. That's what happened.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah. When she finally, you know, would be like, okay, he was like, she just lays there and says, can you make this quick? Right. No. You know, then he's like, well, then I'm just not really interested in it. So, you know, and that's why he seeks outside. You know, it's not because he doesn't want to leave his wife.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Right. He doesn't want to leave his wife. Right. And he stays with his wife. He doesn't want to leave his wife. It's not that he's not in love with her. And it's sex for guys. A lot of times women can't understand this because some women, it's different.
Starting point is 01:00:47 it's different, but it doesn't mean anything a lot of the times, you know? Listen, there's cheaters out there, though, that are really fucking scumbags, you know what I mean? But there's like, you know, and they're just like really like, you know, they're just, you just feel sorry for their wives and what they're doing is really fucking horrible. And there's a lot of guys like that, you know. But sometimes it's not that situation, you know, and that's why you have to hear the whole situation. And just like not every, just like your story is not how it seems on the surface if you really listen to the whole thing, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:15 so let's get your guy on we're calling him Mark. Mark's on yeah, I'm on okay perfect that was good Are you in a little nervous? It's okay, it's cool don't worry I'm so easy to talk to because I'm gonna do most of the talking I'm gonna ask you all the questions so you don't no need to be nervous and I'll edit all this shit out so don't worry about it All right all right cool so Mark she told me she told me about you on another podcast But she's told me so many like interesting things this is like hard to remember everything Molly. How long have you guys known each other and how long have you guys been friends with benefits? About three and a half or four years maybe.
Starting point is 01:01:54 No, a little over three. A little over three. Yeah. Right. Okay. So, and like, do you have, like, have you been a part of any of these threesomes with her? Like, I mean, are you guys, were you guys friends before? How did you start being friends of benefits? Well, her neighbor that she also went to school with is a buddy of mine and we just, kind of met through him when we were over hanging out right or whatever yeah
Starting point is 01:02:20 and then did she make a pass at you like I mean how did you guys start banging and how come it didn't turn into a relationship I probably was I don't know I don't know exactly how I guess we were uh it was mutual but I mean like how come like
Starting point is 01:02:36 were you just looking for friends of benefits like how come like how did it I know actually with my buddy my buddy that kind of introduced her whatever said that she was like down or what you know like oh she was just down to fuck right like you could just have a good time with that girl he said i figured i had a pretty good shot or whatever so and let me ask you this like were you are you were you in a relationship and you were using her on the side or like do you were you single and just not looking for a relationship like what was your deal as far as women was concerned at that time
Starting point is 01:03:10 I had kind of just gotten out of a semi-long-term relationship. I'd been with this girl for a couple years, and there was a lot of arguing, and, you know, and I just didn't want to get into anything like, you know, I wasn't feeling relationship was anything I wanted. Of course, right? So this was like the, she was like the perfect situation for you, this whole thing. Right. And then over the past three years or the four years that you guys have been hooking up, Have you had any relationships or do you guys is like,
Starting point is 01:03:42 Nope. No, I haven't had any relationship. Oh, okay. Now, because you probably have a mean one now. I've hooked up with a couple girls that I, here and there, whatever, and I have an ex that once in a while I'll, you know, hook up with, but.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Well, if you think about it, because, you know, Molly gets these reviews from her guys, right? That she's, like, girlfriend, and she gives the girlfriend experience, right? And you guys are, like, good enough friends that you're snowed in together tonight, right? And she fucks you. So basically you have like the best girlfriend
Starting point is 01:04:11 You could do whatever you want It's like really why would you need to go out and get a relationship Like what would you be at what would a real relationship be adding to your life Except probably arguments Drama yeah right Right drama Yeah I mean Molly's cool cool
Starting point is 01:04:26 I'll edit that out don't worry Yeah Like we hang out sometimes we don't even have You know like um Sex Just hang out and and uh That's what I'm saying I can tell you guys are really friends friends. So if she's also
Starting point is 01:04:39 bangs you some towns, it's like a relationship. I'm a carpenter and I've done some remodeling on her house and then she kind of started getting into some woodworking projects. So we can go to town on the old and you know, it's just like she's cool. She's a good friend. You know, it's, uh, we're so good.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Let me ask you this. I'm just thinking matchmaker-wise. Like, why? Why, like, why? Do you think like you guys maybe are in a real? Like, what's missing that you guys maybe aren't in a relationship, but it's just like a, you know, a more progressive relationship. I guess the, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I mean, Molly, are you on the phone too, Molly? I'm here, yeah. Okay. Let me ask you this, because, like, you know, everybody has all different kinds of relationships. I've heard them all on my show. I've been doing this for about four years, right? You guys, like, you know, are really good friends, right? You've been together for a while.
Starting point is 01:05:32 You obviously have good sex because you're, you know, you're friends with benefits. he's the only person besides me and all my listeners who know about the fact that you do all this stuff, right? And he accepts it and is saying the nicest things about you right now on my show, right? So he has respect for you. He really likes you as a person. You know, how is it not a relationship? Well, I mean, I look at him as one of my best friends for sure that I also have sex with. I mean, it's strange.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Like we... You're super low, Molly. How come you're all so low? Yeah. Because I was on speaker. Oh, okay. Like, I would never... There hasn't been any arguments that we've been in that I wouldn't have with, like,
Starting point is 01:06:18 another female friend. There's never been any sort of, you know, relationship-y type arguments or issues or anything. And I think we both really like it that way. And maybe if it was at a different level, that would happen. and that would just kind of ruin everything. I don't know. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I need to add that she is a woman, though, so there is a little bit of sometimes things I have to deal with, but not. Yeah, and you're a man. I'm sorry, but like you're a man, so it's like the woman man thing is always going to happen, right? I bring that to the table, so that, yeah. But you know about everything that she does, right? Pretty much, yeah. I mean, yeah. And you're cool.
Starting point is 01:07:03 fit? Yeah. He encourages it in fact. I think it's great. Does it turn you on? Yeah. I get that a lot of my show. There's a lot of couples out there that like to fuck other people and like knowing about them fucking other people. It makes their sex better. That's why I just feel like it sounds like you
Starting point is 01:07:20 guys could be like one of those couples that have like an open relationship like that you have. I didn't know it was so normal. Like I didn't that you know a guy would be like oh tell me about all the guys you fucked last weekend. What? Like you what? I didn't know. That was normal for me.
Starting point is 01:07:36 You know, I thought I was weird for like feeling like that or thinking like that. You know, I was like, you know, is that? I, I have heard it all.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I've had people, women, men on my show that like this happened to them in their relationship. We sort of by accident and they would have never believed that they would be turned on. They would think that they would be jealous. and it wound up to be like a big turn on for them. So, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:58 and it is like more common than you think because I get a lot of people on my show that say, that. And they're like, they're like you. They don't realize that they would be that way. They didn't think it was like they thought it was weird, but that's just how they are. It actually turns them on. It doesn't turn them off or it doesn't make them jealous or whatever. You know, maybe some people would say what you guys, it's because you don't have that romantic thing going on between you guys. But I don't know. I mean, a lot of guys, you know, if they don't have that romantic thing going on, they, they care. I've had booty call guys that don't want to hear about other guys. And I would always want to hear about their other girls. And I think maybe I have a little bit of that thing going on. Like, you know, guys have that you like to hear about it you know i never sort of put it in my mind like that but i think i do because i never cared and i would i'd be like that would like add to it at this point because i've been fucking you for so long it might be just interesting to hear about but they would be like they didn't want to hear about my guys it's like so weird it's like we're not even dating like why would you care so but i think a lot of people maybe it would it does turn them on you know but you guys
Starting point is 01:08:58 it doesn't for neither one of you you guys could be in a relationship and it could be a good gym. But like we... Well, the thing is, it's like, I don't care if he is with other girls. It doesn't bother me. But hearing about it doesn't do anything for me. Like, it doesn't turn me on. It doesn't, you know, not turn. It just kind of is what it is. First of all, this is why nothing else turns you on. You are as turned on as you could get. You're at max capacity, okay? There is no going further. Like, you didn't hear the conversation mark that we were talking about before. I was like, oh, does being an escort are getting paid, turned you on more?
Starting point is 01:09:34 And she, yeah, that's what I've called over that before. She's just like, no, it didn't add to it. I just enjoyed it. Like, there's nothing to add for you. Like, there's no going further. Like, you're at max capacity. You know what? I will give him credit for, he was really instrumental in having me, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:53 explore a lot of this stuff and, like, come more into myself sexually with, you know, I would have never even really thought a whole lot about, you know, having multiple guys in one day or at one time even, but he was very encouraging. Because he really likes it. And this was something, let me ask you this, Mark. So you had never, this was nothing you had ever sort of done with any other girl and you didn't know that it was something that you were into. No, not really. No. I mean. I didn't even know that. And that is like you hit the jackpot because once you realized it, Molly was like more than willing to sort of go as far as you wanted, right?
Starting point is 01:10:33 Right. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't, I mean, early on it was, I mean, she wasn't as full-blown as she is now by any means, you know. It was a, you know, like kind of a progression, you know? I mean. Right, she had to come out, like she had to get more comfortable. When we first started hooking up, she wasn't telling me everything, you know what I mean, because she didn't know how I would react or whatever, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:58 And, uh, and then, you know, as we got to know each other better and stuff and she kind of, you know, saw how I was and I saw how, you know, like she saw, you know, like, she saw, was the jealous type we're going to be, you know, I think it's, I think the guys that, like, if other friends, you know, if you're insecure, then you're going to want to, you know, like, not hear about them or not have them be with other guys or whatever, you know, even though you're not dating and it's like, you know, every guy would take it, take every opportunity to be with another girl. unless, you know, if he wasn't, if he was single, having a friend with benefits, and he gets another opportunity, he's going to take it. Why shouldn't? Yeah. Because I... And not, and not, and you don't have the same... But it's that thing that she know, but this is what I think it is.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I think it's that thing that she said, that girlfriend experience thing. Some guys like to live in some sort of weirdo fantasy when they're even with their friends. You know what I'm saying? Some weirdo ego thing. Like, they want to take ownership of, you know, like... Yeah. it's not, even though it's not true and everyone knows and it's on the table, but they still, because I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Or maybe like my booty call like secretly liked me and that's why he did it. I don't know, but I just never understood why he gave a shit because I didn't, right? And he didn't like it, like it ruined it. But I think he was like liking it to be some sort of fantasy relationship for the 45 minutes we were together. I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I think that there's.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Like you were just waiting for the next time for him to call and or whatever, you know, vice versa. I don't know, but it was never, no, but it was really like a service call. There was no other thing going on that would make it seem like a girlfriend experience. I know what she means by like the girlfriend experience thing that these guys want because there's a lot of guys that like that kind of a thing, but me and that guy didn't have that kind of thing, but who cares about that? I'll say this for Molly.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I know she's with a lot, you know, a lot of other guys or whatever, but when we're together, she always makes me feel like I'm the person she'd most, wants to be with right now right and she probably does that for these other guys too you know i mean she has a way of making you feel like you're the guy she's most you know want to be with you know at that right time or whatever so and she's not felt like she's trying to get rid of me so she can go you know what i mean yeah like always been you know makes you feel like you're number one for for the time you're with her you know and i think she had that skill or bill whatever you want to call it and that's like, you know, guys are drawn to her.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah, no, and it's funny because it's like, it sounds like probably a lot like the review she just got from the guy. And what she was saying is that, like, she is the same way with these guys as she is in her regular life. And, like, it's, and you're just sort of affirming that by saying that that's how she is with you.
Starting point is 01:13:46 It's not like she's putting something on, right? Because you're not paying her, right? So with you, she's still, you're not paying her. This is, and but she's just as into it and as, you know, girlfriendy with you with the other guys
Starting point is 01:14:00 yeah no she should be giving you a cut you helped her along the way right yeah yeah exactly yeah you're it sounds good have you watched have you been a part of all those
Starting point is 01:14:14 like you have you watched her with other guys like have you got into that like what is yeah just the one time uh recently actually yeah fairly recently and um yeah it was uh
Starting point is 01:14:26 I ended up filming more than anything. Just like filming most of it. I didn't get involved that much until after the other two guys left. So it was two guys. So you got her hooked up with two guys. No, she hooked herself up with two guys. I didn't know them. That's my Molly.
Starting point is 01:14:45 This is the Molly. This is the Molly that people have to go back and listen to because we kick it in. She doesn't need anybody's help. She's got. You're right. I forgot. Sorry for doubting. you, Molly. Right, so she had
Starting point is 01:14:58 two guys and you came with and you came to film or was that like a setup thing? Yeah, well I was, we were actually in a hotel together and they came there and it was kind of a, it was going to happen and it wasn't and it was gonna and then some other and
Starting point is 01:15:14 I just wasn't in that zone right when, you know, when the time came. Yeah. I wasn't, you know what I mean? I just wasn't we were all going home for it to happen the night before and it didn't and you know, and I was just kind of there was other circumstances I won't go into, but I just wasn't really feeling it, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:33 But I did want to, I know, I wanted it to happen for her or whatever. So, I mean, I filmed it, and it's probably the best footage that she's ever gotten because usually if she's with, you know, doing, and trying to, one of the guys fucking hurts trying to film it, and it never turns out very, you know, never turns out very good. Of course, because you were on the sidelines. And so you watched the whole. there getting, you know, like, yeah, I was doing all the...
Starting point is 01:15:59 Finally have good film. Finally have good films. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm assuming that you got to keep that. Molly, are you still on the phone? Because why do I can't hear you? How come your phone sucks? I'll take myself off speaker.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Sorry. Yeah, it's very bad. It's like you sound like you're in the background trying to talk. Can you hear me better now? Yeah, much better. But, um, so you, so, Yeah, so it's kind of like a professional porn. Well, not a professional porn, but yeah, it is much better if you're going to film something.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Because you could like zoom in, go out. It's not like you put a camera someplace and you're just, you left it there. I mean, you're walking around. Yeah, and that's what I was trying to do. I mean, trying to, you know, like, did my best. I thought I did a pretty good job for, as amateur as I, you know, I've never done anything before. But with cell phones now, anybody can take decent pictures or. Yeah, they take great videos and stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:52 So didn't someone make a movie out of it? but let me ask you this. So do you keep that, do you have a copy of that too? And, like, I'm assuming, like, that's like, you guys watch that together and then it just adds to your guy's sex life, right?
Starting point is 01:17:04 I've got the original copy and then I had to email her, you know, so she had a copy because I'd filled it on my phone. She wanted me to do it on her phone part of the time too, but I forgot in the... In the... I got paying attention. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:17 So I've got, you know, like, basically all the footage from that day on my phone. And he's probably one of the only people would trust with that footage to, you know, to have it not be concerned about it. Right. Because a lot of times when the guys want to film, they want to use their own phone or camera because they're used to it. Yeah, you can't, right.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah, and I've got a passcode online. So, you know, I'm not going to, you know, let them do it on their phone. So plus you're in the middle of it. So it's kind of the last thing you think about and this and then. Afterwards, I'm always disappointed because I either have no footage or really crappy footage. Right. But this was like this was the, and this was recent. within the last
Starting point is 01:17:56 four weeks, yeah. Oh, that is very recent. Yeah, you're never... And that's the only time he's ever seen me, like, you know, first-hand. Other than on film, on some shitty footage that I had to watch. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Like, I've seen her do, like, threesomes or whatever with other guys on the, on the, on the, grainy videos that she's taken in the past, you know, but I've never been there. Oh, right, right, right. So that was the real day. And so how, and so there was just some sort
Starting point is 01:18:24 of circumstances that were going on that you didn't sort of partake, but like, because I would assume it wasn't either of our faults. It was the hotel's fault. Yeah. If we went into it, you wouldn't even it's like almost unbelievable. So I'm not even going to. Okay, okay, cool. But I mean, right, because I would assume that you'd be like so turned on that this was going on that you'd want to get it. And I mean, like, I was gung whole for it. And then like it just, it wasn't going to happen than it was. And then all of a sudden these guys are there. And I'm like, I'm dealing with something else at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just like I just, and I didn't know these guys, and I just couldn't get right into, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:59 I just couldn't. But you guys folded around after they left. Yeah, after they left, you know, because like, here's two strangers, you know. I'm just like, I just, you know, I don't know. I just maybe not, don't have that performance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you, you fucked her after they left. And that's, so Molly, you had those two guys and then you had him right after they left. And then she wanted me to go find some more.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Oh my God. Oh my God. Watching it's going, she's hard to stop. Yeah, that's, I mean, I remember her Vegas stories where she would have like five guys in a day. I mean, that's why I was like, I think you should just get paid for this because like you're the kind of person, right? That should do this professionally? Yeah, she's a. So when she told you that she was going to go be an escort and do that, like, were you like a high-fiving her?
Starting point is 01:19:50 Were you concerned at all? I didn't high five, but I thought just like you, why not? You know, I can enjoy it, and you're doing it anyway, and people are willing to pay it for it. Why not? And she really is a unicorn, right? Oh, for sure. Like, believe me, if I could find that many people to fuck me, you know, and I could actually fuck that many times in a day, which I couldn't. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:15 But, you know, I'd be all over it, but it's just like. So she really is like a girl, but she really is like a girl. that's like a guy, right? And I think that's what every guy wishes they could find, right? Because what happens most of the time with guys is that they're heterosexual, if they're heterosexual, they're paired up with women and women are sort of wired very differently, right? And so their sort of sexual needs are very different. And that always creates a lot of times problems over a long periods of time when you're with the same person, right?
Starting point is 01:20:44 Sure. Like everybody always tells me, friends with benefits, you know, it works out at at the beginning, but then someone gets feelings after a while and blah blah, blah, you know, And I'm like, I don't, I think we're fine, you know, or I think we're. Yeah, you guys are fine. You know, like, we're. Right. You know, the way things are. Yeah, maybe if you ever would ever, you guys, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Like, I guess it is scary to sort of change the dynamic. And sometimes there's like a window of opportunity for like something to happen. I mean, that's the cool thing about it is like there's no, if there's never been any like pressure or the thought, you know what I mean? Like it has to go anywhere or it doesn't. We know we both care about each other. you know, like, I definitely care about her and I, you know, and But maybe if you stay together for like 10 years or 15 years and you're still doing the same thing and neither, like, you might look at each other one day and be like, I think we're together.
Starting point is 01:21:35 No. No, like, you know, I think we've been together all this time, but we just haven't admitted it to each other. I kind of said something to someone once where I'm like, we'll probably just end up by default, you know. In 10 years, we'll still be doing this and like by then. That's what I'm saying. be in our 50s and probably too old to, you know, start, like, why don't know. Trived down to one mortgage. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And then you're like, and then you look back and reflect and be like, I think we had a relationship this whole time, but it was just like an open relationship. And maybe, you know what I mean? It didn't, because it didn't have all that drama and all that other stuff. You didn't really think that it really was one, but maybe it is. But, you know, I think maybe time will tell. Most open relationships probably start out the other way. where it's not that way in the beginning and then they get to that point.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Yeah. We were, you know, we kind of went out of backwards as far as, you know, we were friends as benefits and then, you know, we realized that we got along pretty good and whatever and,
Starting point is 01:22:32 you know, see where it goes. But like, right, and the fact that you got along and you, but it didn't sort of turn romantically, but you were still cool with each other alike. I think that's the part that people have to work through because sometimes that
Starting point is 01:22:44 happens, but because you didn't have to go through that, that I think it's like, you know, you guys would probably, make a good couple because you seem to be sort of really super compatible in the areas that it that it that you need like what else is there left to a relationship quote unquote romance i don't know like what is that that's like the beginning and if you know that goes away anyway what do you left
Starting point is 01:23:08 like a really good friend that you have really good sex with and if you have that like what more can you ask for so you never know but i think it's like you know soon she's trying to lead us into something. Sorry. No, I don't know. I just know. It's cool because we both, I've never felt, and I know I think she feels the same way, that there's any kind of pressure or any kind of, you know, like. Listen, this is why I say it because, yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:36 but this is why I say it because, like, the way that Molly is, like, I think a lot of guys want the unicorn, but if they ever got the unicorn, they would not know how to, if Molly ever wanted a relationship. A lot of guys wouldn't know. know or wouldn't be able to really sort of get through all the things like we talked about right maybe they would be jealous you know what i'm saying that it's hard to find somebody that's
Starting point is 01:23:59 okay with that stuff she always makes me feel like i'm the person that you know what i mean that she'd most it would be hard to be jealous because it's like she tells me stuff because i want to hear it but she never it's never thrown in my ear like you know what i mean it's not it's not like oh you need to go because i got this guy or i got to you know like every time I call her and want to hang out pretty much she's free to, you know, to hang out. And, you know, sometimes, obviously other things come up. But like I said, she always makes me feel like I'm first, you know. So, I mean, and, you know, I wanted to go and have fun and do those things.
Starting point is 01:24:41 She should be able to. She's single, you know, she, you know, she whatever, you know. Yeah. And there's hardly been, you know, and since I've met him, there hasn't really been anyone where I've been interested in being in a relationship with. So not only have I not... You laugh at those guys. Yeah, I can't laugh.
Starting point is 01:24:57 You laugh at the guys that fall in love with her because there's quite a few that have, like, you know, they start wanting to be boyfriend-y and... Right. Start wanting to hang out. And then I come over to, like, do some remodeling in the basement or whatever. And they're like, who's this, you know? Right. This guy.
Starting point is 01:25:13 And that's what I'm like, well, now I've got to find somebody who's going to be okay with what I do. and that's, you know, starting from not really starting from scratch, but it's just like now, like, how do I approach that subject? Well, that's really hard. That's what I'm trying to say, that it's like, as much as guys love in their minds,
Starting point is 01:25:33 a girl like Molly, right? Not a lot of guys would be able to, they wouldn't be able to become emotional, maybe have a relationship with a girl like that, because they might get really freaked out by it and then it would be something that they couldn't deal with or they would judge. You know what I mean? It just, it's as, it takes a special
Starting point is 01:25:53 person and I think, like I said, that I could tell, by the way, you talk about her, that you genuinely like her as a person and you're not judgmental about what she does. And you like, because a lot of guys would want to fuck you, but they're like they wouldn't want to take you seriously because of what you do. You know, it's like guys have that Madonna whore complex. Like a lot of them
Starting point is 01:26:10 do. It's just the way that it goes, especially because you're older. You're not 22. 22 year old guys, I think, are more open mind. a different generation, right? But at 37 of you're dating guys in their 40s, you know, they're old school, they're more judgmental and fucked up when it comes to sex and shit like that about with women.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I'm like, oh my guy who's going to let me fuck other guys. That's what I'm saying. Like you're not, like, you might find, like a lot of guys might would, but it take a long time to get to that place. And so, I don't know. So unless you change Molly down the line where you decide, I'm done with all this, I want to be monogamous and I met someone I really like. It's hard to find that.
Starting point is 01:26:46 you guys got something together that um i did that for years and look where it got me yeah so for right now i think it's good so i'm like trying to make a love connection here but like you just don't know but i think i'm gonna wrap it up now because we're so like late in the game i mean it's like already an hour and a half of this podcast is going to be perfect what were you saying there was one time there was one time where um we actually fell asleep in the same bed which doesn't happen very often and i woke up and he was just like you were were like spooning me in your sleep and it was weird. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Aw. That was really funny. Like, yeah, we had sex how many countless times and like the fact that I, when I was sleeping and didn't know it spooned you, you freaked, like, didn't freak out. But he's just like, it was just weird. Right. It is kind of backwards, but I totally get that situation because I've had those experiences with guys.
Starting point is 01:27:38 I'm just banging. But yeah, it's like, that's the kind of funny shit that happens. But I think that like, you guys genuinely like each other and you have really great Jackson. Yeah, for sure. I don't know. Sometimes I worry about her safety, like, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I could tell you care about her. She's totally, she can take care of herself. She, I mean, if you ever saw her in her day-to-day life, she doesn't dress like a, I mean, she's, she looks like your average soccer mom, you know, like. I know. That's why I do my show to show that these are the people that are sitting next to you. If you saw her grocery store or never, right. You'd never ever think, you know, that this is what her other, you know, her. my other life.
Starting point is 01:28:18 No, that's the point I'm always trying to make. But that's the point I'm always trying to make on my show because people are super judgmental about things and they don't know. And people don't realize that just like regular people that maybe are sitting next to you, you know, or in your family, a part of your family that you don't know or doing like the craziest things that you would never know sexually
Starting point is 01:28:37 and nobody's talking about it because everybody has such hangups with sex. You know what I mean? And what I said. I mean, I wouldn't be afraid to show up anywhere with her on my aren't like if we went out to dinner you know i mean right oh see molly see how nice he talks about you i know sweet it is kind of sweet i like him for you you know five years from now i mean i know that i'll talk to you again molly i love the fact that mark was able to join in so maybe next time
Starting point is 01:29:07 you call in we talk again if you guys ever like this like you know i know i'll do at the end of the year we do it i always do an update so i'll probably talk to you again then but maybe now that you're hooking or whatever you're doing, we have more stories. We'll talk to you again in a couple months. But, you know, Mark could come back on and we'll see if anything progresses. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:25 I have a feeling there might be something there between you guys, but. All right. Well, we'll see. We'll let it play out and see what happens again. Yeah, exactly. So keep me posted. Thanks for calling in. Have fun on your snow day there,
Starting point is 01:29:37 because I know you guys are hauled up in the snow. That's kind of fun. And I wish you all... I'm willing to call back anytime, because there's, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's always updates.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yeah, no, definitely. And now that you're doing this, like a couple months, we'll probably do an update. And Mark, you're more than welcome to join in. I'm sure you won't be as nervous the next time because it was so easy, right? Hello?
Starting point is 01:30:03 Hello? It was easy. It wasn't hard to do. I know she's... No, it was easy. No, it was easy. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So next time you could be on again.
Starting point is 01:30:13 We'll have more stories. Yeah, for sure. All right. Go fuck a lot of. more people, Molly, and call back and we'll talk soon. Well, I'm going to fuck him first. Okay. Once we get out of the snow.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Okay. Bye, you guys. Thanks. All right. Bye. All right. Bye. Okay. Okay.
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