Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 222 - Brad Gives Secret Blowjobs

Episode Date: March 19, 2018

Straight" Brad has been giving "straight" guys blowjobs on the down low for a very long time and he calls in to talk all about it. When did he give his first blowjob? Where does he meet the guys he hooks up with? And, what exactly does he do with them? Tune in to find out plus hear all about how humiliation plays a big part in his hook ups, what makes him feel humiliated the most and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast. Kathy. You want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Twitter. Follow the show at Strict Anonymous or follow me at Cartoon Therapy. If you want to be on the strictly anonymous podcast, you could go to strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on Be on the show. Send me an email. I'll have me on my show. This is a call on advice show. I really like helping people. I really think I even help the people that call in with all their like crazy sexual stuff. But I really like regular problems too. So if you're a person with a regular problem and you need advice because your friends don't want to fucking hear it anymore or you're somebody that leads a secret life or an interesting life or a naughty life, you know, that kind of stuff. Look at the titles. you could be on my show. You could either send me an email at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com or click on my website,

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Um, what else? Who do I have on this show date? No, what I was going to say is, did you hear that commercial for a comedy seller? I used to work at the comedy seller when, not the comedy seller, at the club next door, but the owner owned both places, Cafe Waat and the comedy seller. And he fired me for spitting in people's drinks. My friends used to call me the mad spitter. That's a true story.

Like when I was younger, I just didn't know how to deal with my anger, so I would like spit in my customers' drinks. And it would make me feel better. And it's not something I would ever. do not for like the past like probably so many years like I really have I don't condone it but I think it's kind of funny even though it's very wrong and I would never do it and it the weird thing is that owner has a mutual friend we're friends with a mutual guy a guy we have a friend who's mutual or something like that and like he still up to recently had held a grudge on me for spinning in his customers drinks and it's just like dude I would see him and he'd be so rude to me and then finally

I was just like, do you still hate me because of like what happened 20 years ago? He was like, yeah. And I was like, okay, like I really apologize. Like, I am not that person. You know, and I had to really apologize. And I just want to say one thing because as somebody who was like really fucking crazy when I was younger and did a lot of really bad things, I mean, I had gotten thrown out out of like three high schools.

I was maybe not so nice to people. Like I was a crazy drunk. I slept with a lot of people. I got fired from jobs because I would tell. people off like this is like I was like out of control right but that was like in my 20s and the weird thing is is like all me people now and I'm like my late 40s and I'm a completely different person and people will still like look at me funny or sort of define me by what I did in my 20s and for all you people in your 20s and for all you older people that are older like hey you're not you shouldn't define

somebody by what they do in their 20s you know a lot of time has gone by people change most people I don't know maybe other people don't change I changed a lot and I'm a different person and I'm not anything like the person I was in my 20s, but after I apologize, he accepted it, and that's that. I don't even know why I got into that. It's like funny backstory on me. But yeah, so don't judge some people that are in their 40s by what they did in their 20s,

because this is like another lifetime, you know, and people that are in their 20s that are fucking up and doing crazy things. Like, you have all the rest of your life to change, and most likely you will clean up your act and become a decent person. I know I was very wayward and I turned my shit around. But the weird thing is,

is like a lot of people that I went to school with are still all the wayward people I went to school with are still very wayward. So maybe that's not true. Maybe you should judge people and just don't judge me. Anyway, I have a guy on named Brad who you shouldn't judge even though he's blowing guys left and right behind everyone's back and nobody knows

because that's what he likes to do. He's another one of these by guys that doesn't think he's by. but we talk about that right off the bat because that's always like the most interesting thing to me. But this is a guy that's been, and he's interesting because he's very specific about what he likes to do with guys. And I'm not going to get into too much detail because you'll have to listen to the episode. But it's interesting. He does a lot of stuff with guys.

Even though he's just interested in doing one thing, there's many variations of that and he's really into it. And he does like to be humiliated, like Jizz on the face, kind of humiliated. You know, remember my jizz quiz? I don't know. I have a whole thing about that. We discuss it. But he likes to be humiliated and stuff, and that plays into his relationships with men.

Not relationships with men. He would get mad at me if you heard me say that. His sexual encounters with men, his secret sexual encounters with men, because they're all a big, fat secret. He has never told anyone about this, and he's been doing this since he's been in his 20s. And unlike me, he hasn't changed.

He's still doing it in his 40s. Anyway. So now there's a point to my whole stupid story. I'll be going to be right back on with Brad. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name.

And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Anonymous, Strictly Anonymous. Hey, Brad, welcome Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you doing today? I'm doing pretty good. How are you, Kathy? I'm good. I love your accent.

We don't, you know, this is like an anonymous thing, so I can't ask you where you're from, nor do I really care, but I love, I do like your accent. You're definitely from the south, right? Yes, East Coast, yes. Yeah, there you go. And so you found my podcast, and, like, you know, you're very similar to other guys that I've had on my show. And it's obvious to me, I think, because I've been doing my show for like four years and have so many guys that write it and have the same thing that a lot of guys are doing what you do.

Like there's just a lot of guys behind their wives, girlfriends, backs that are like blowing guys or fucking guys. Doing stuff with other guys, right? And nobody's talking about it, right? And you're another one of those. I find the most interesting thing. And we'll just get, we'll just talk about this and get this over with before I hear your whole story. I find the most interesting. I find the most interesting thing about these kind of guys and you said it right in your first email is that you like the first sentence in your email was like I just want to let you know that I love to like I mean this is paraphrasing right I love to suck up but I'm not attracted to guys at all right and like across the board I would say 80% of the guys that do this kind of thing on the side that

you know our heterosexual but like are blowing guys and say we'll always be like but I'm not by or I'm not into guys or, you know, it's always that thing. But I'm like, how could you not think you're into guys if like a dick is like a guy? Like, that part of the body is a guy, right? So if you're into that, isn't that being into guys? Like, don't you think? Well, it can be in a way, but it is, I mean, like a beautiful hard cop right in front of, you know? I mean, it is.

I mean, if you want to say that's being into guys. I guess you could say it is being into guys. Well, girls don't have that. That's like saying, like, you know, don't you. But like, I don't know what it is. I'm just trying to get the psychology behind why guys like, and I guess it's like, it's like psych 101. Like, probably you don't want to, you can't sort of say that because you think it sort

of means something. Like maybe that, like, because I had a last guy on and I think he thought it meant that he was gay when I was trying to like explain that the difference between by and gay and he was able to be like, okay, yeah, I'm by, but I'm not gay because I'm not into guys. But there's a difference between guys are into guys romantically and guys are into guys sexually, right? So it's like, do you, is it that you would think that if you were attracted to guys, that would mean you're gay?

Or do you not even think that you're by? I don't, I don't necessarily identify myself as bi. I can't see myself like going out on a date other than maybe. But that's not by. But that's not by. That's more gay because that's like a romantic relationship. Buy is like you just, you can be sexually attracted by both male and female. That would be by.

Well, if you wanted to say that I was sexually attracted to, a nice cot. Yeah, you could say that, yeah, that is bad treat, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yes, you're bye. I don't know why people, I think it's like some sort of weird thing because I think you just proved my point that I think that guys are so hung up on the gay thing, which I don't, I don't get because, you know, what's the big deal? Whatever you like, you like, whatever.

But that, you know, you can't even sort of admit it because you think it means you're gay when it's like, bye. There's this whole other thing, which is bisexual, and it's very different than being a homosexual, and that's probably what you are, right? And all these guys are, but they all are kind of like you. Like they think that them being into a guy would mean that they're gay, and since they don't feel that they are, they think they're not into guys at all. What the truth is is that you are into guys, just you're into them just sexually, which makes you bisexual. Because you're very into women, right?

Filling around with women, like sexually speaking, like a woman's body, does everything for you, too. right? A woman is very beautiful, you know, different type of creature, you know what I'm and you don't have that taboo, uh, sexual encounter with him like you do with a guy, like, like if you're on your knee sucking the guy's dick, for example. For you, right, for you. I mean, and it's a real charge. It's almost like an electric charge that goes through you. You know what I mean? Well, for you, right, because it's like, for you, it's just the, naughtiest thing you could be doing. Exactly. It really is.

And you wind up with different things that different guys want to do, but that I'm not into. And that can ruin some encounters, but I'm just, you know, not into it. And so I just kind of walk away. I do have enough willpower to do that, but I can't, I don't have enough willpower to stop sucking dicks. I mean, because you love it. Let me ask you this. Yeah, let me ask you this.

Let's start from the beginning. So, like, I mean, when did you find out how did you realize this was something that you were into and then how did you sort of fulfill your fantasy that first time like what happened how did you go about it i mean it almost evolved was like the internet you know the internet has made it so simple in these days how old are you by the way i'm in my mid 40s okay cool so it started with the internet so were you older when that you this started i was in like my late 20s when i had my first encounter okay cool but you did you know before like when did you realize like oh secretly like it didn't tell anyone like you were like into that part of a guy if you were to go back to like the mid 90s like when yahoo message board

started to come out i wanted to toy around with it and it went for several years before i ever made that first connection i would chat with guys on there about it and like me sucking them off but i would never complete the deal so to speak you know you didn't meet anybody it was just a sort of an online kind of a thing. And then once you got off from it, you were done. You were sitting there talking with guys and eventually responding to ads, then you start making your own ad. So it's like it's built like just talking to them is not giving you that thrill of anymore.

It's like chasing a drug high. Yeah, chasing the dragon. Yeah. So now you need more and more to get that same feeling. Right. Uh-huh. And now you're posting an ad and guys are responding to it. And sooner or later, something comes by because I scream like the red cross.

You know what I mean? You mean when you're like having, what do you mean? Like when you're having an orgasm? Like if I'm trying to hook up with a guy and I know I want to suck his dick, I'll find out like what type of personality traits and stuff. And it'll set them off in the beginning. A lot of them will just walk away because I don't like like with the 20 questions and everything. But, like, I mean, like, ask the guy, like, are you trying to get anal out of this?

I mean, I'm just looking for a no reciproc. Just give you no reciprocation head. I don't want any kind of anal or any of that kind of stuff. I don't want any kind of boyfriend relationship stuff. And, and things like that. You mean because you, so you're grilling them as when, I don't, I didn't understand that term. So what you mean is like you're grilling them? I'm finding out what they want.

Right. I mean, if they want anal sex, to me, that's going to be an X. I'm not going to meet them. Right. You have a very specific thing that you're interested in. Now, let me ask you this. How did you, I mean, just, I just want to rewind, like, right before, like, the whole Yahoo Messenger thing.

Like, how old were you? Was it a very young age that you realized that you were attracted to guys in that way? Or did it start on Yahoo with women? And then you figured, like, how did, when did you first remember sort of realizing that you had this kind of a thing? You know that you were into this. I would probably say I was in high school when I started to think that, hey, I mean, potentially I would do it. But I didn't think I ever would do it.

Right. And you were dating girls and all that stuff. Right. And I was living with a girl and online cruising the Yahoo message board. And a Yahoo message board doesn't exist anymore. Now everybody knows it's all just Craigslist stuff and stuff like that. Yeah. But back then it was the Yahoo.

message board. And anyway, you start cruising these ads and stuff and I posted an ad and I'm like, uh-oh. And I flaked out a lot of times. I would say I would meet a guy and I'd set it up and everything. Right. You just kept getting closer and closer because. You kept getting closer and closer. You know eventually what this is going to lead.

You're going to lead to me with a dick in my mouth. It's what happened. You know, what happened. Right. Yeah. And so wait. How did that first? you're at the point where you're like making ads right and you make a bunch of them and before

you really meet somebody and then what was the ad and like how why what was it about that one guy was it just because you needed to actually meet the person that get your fix um well i posted an ad and and i could just tell you about the first guy that i met i mean just how i posted an ad as usual and i live close to the 95 corridor 95 corridor heading south So anyway, I met this guy sent me a message. And back then, you know, you didn't have as many cell phone dick picks and stuff like that. Yeah. But he did send me a picture.

And, I mean, it was this nice, beautiful eight-inch looking, eight-inch looking cut cotton that he had. And so, I mean, he just fit everything that I was looking for. I mean, he was a married guy. Okay, he was already in a relationship with someone. He was just looking for a good blowjob. I didn't know how good I would be. Right. Okay.

And it was on down, I mean, he was probably a little bit older than I was, which that was fine. My age range was somewhere around my age. Yeah. That would fit. And eventually, now, see, I've been talking with different guys and chatting and setting up these meets and never being able to meet. I said, I'm going to meet this guy, you know, I'm going to meet. And I, and I told him from the, from the start that, I might not, might not do anything with him.

Right. You're touching, you just, yeah. I would just meet him, and we'll just see how it goes. I mean, and the guy's married, and he turns out he's going to go meet his wife. She's already in Orlando. going down to Disney World. Oh my God. You hear this ladies?

Yeah. So he stayed behind and he was going to meet her. He had to stay behind Yeah. Because of his work. Uh-huh. And he explained that. Because I was wondering why he was not with his wife.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Uh-huh. But anyway, he's traveling by a car, like in a rental car. I think he's something like that. But anyway,

that's not the hearing of there. So I tell him to meet me at a shopping center that was right off the interstate and it was near a pizza hut. So I met him in that pizza hut parking lot knew which vehicle were for. And I met him. And we talked for a few minutes in the parking lot and he said, look, I mean, I don't have a whole lot of time. He said, you want to go ahead and do it or not? I said, yeah, if you want to come back to my place, you know, I invited him back to my place.

And it's a couple miles outside of town. And his pick was for real. I mean, when he pulled it out, it was all there. Right. It was a real deal. And was it as amazing as you wanted it to be or thought it would be? It was the most thrilling thing I had ever done in my life. Wow.

Up to this, I mean, the whole deal about getting him out, getting him up, I mean, he was semi-hard when he came out, right? Mm-hmm. And then I had to get down on my knees. I worked him up, you know, just a standard blow job and everything. And it was like that first drug high, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. And I work him up and I finally, I mean, he's already told me he's got to go ahead and get going. Right.

It's a tense situation from him also, you know what I mean? What do you mean tense? Well, meeting a stranger, getting sucked off. Yeah, but maybe it wasn't his first time. Did he say it was his first time? time he was probably he could he could have been a professional you know and i've ran across guys like you know what i'm saying yeah i mean but anyway you're probably a professional now probably probably probably yeah i mean i mean i well experienced i would say you know what i mean

and but anyway i wind up sucking this guy off and and and he gets off and he blows his massive load right in my mouth and half of it in my mouth, half of it all over half of it on my face as I recall and he pulls out and he's like zipping up heading out the door

you know which was and I'm just sitting there like that I don't know I mean it was an amazing feeling but you felt like your mouth had just been used you know I mean you have that you're where your lips have been running up and down the shaft so much.

Mm-hmm. Your lips feel a little bit numb, you know? Mm-hmm. And you've got a metallic, salty taste in your mouth from where he got off, you know? Right. You swallow, I'm assuming. Well, the bit that went in my mouth, I did, yeah. Mm-hmm.

But are you into that? Oh, yeah. I mean, after you do it a few times, it's no problem, you know? Right. But you remember every little detail, because, I mean, like, You know, as a woman that give blows jobs, like, I don't remember how used and abuse my mouth feels because you just like sort of do it. But I think it's because for you, this was such a built-up fit. Like, you know, that feeling in every little detail that you remember, I think it just because it was like you were just like really in the moment enjoying it.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it was like a perfect scenario. And then, you know, like now I've got cum dripping down my face. I got that salty taste in my mouth. my lips feel. I would say your lips, after you've been, if you know what I'm talking about, they've been riding up and down on a cock shaft about 10, 15 minutes or so.

Yeah. Of course, you're mixing it up some, but I wasn't as good then, but, you know, you're mixing it up some, but your lips feel a little bit numb. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. I guess. Yeah. But anyway, he's gone.

I'm sitting there, clean myself up a little bit. and then the feelings, the wash of regret just washes over top of you, especially. I always ask people like, how do you feel like right after, right? Because it's like you become like sober, you know, after you're like, oh, what the fuck did I just do? Yeah, like what the hell do don't I just do? But wait, let me just ask you a quick question. Did you have any kind of orgasm? Like were you jerking yourself off?

Like, well, how did you get off in that scenario? No, I don't like to get off in their presence. Okay. So when did that wave of regret happen right after you did it with him? After he was gone. After he was gone. And I have cleaned myself up some and I'm like, what the fuck did I just do? Then I'm playing.

And then I jerk off thinking about it, you know? And this is what you just sucked the dick. That's what you just did. And then after I got boring again, right? And you're not feeling bad about it. And then you jerk yourself off. and then what and then you feel guilty all over again and and i've looked it up online about when you achieve when the male achieves a climax he has like you know like girls

always be talking about like well after he gets off he doesn't want to have anything to do with me anymore yeah he's got to go in the cave the brain is your body is producing hormones that trigger that trigger that yeah so that you don't get a attached to the woman, whereas the woman has the opposite reaction, just so you know. And that's why they get the attached to men. And that's nature, does that on purpose. Nature has done that on purpose. That's exactly right.

Yeah, it's so fascinating, right? Right, exactly. The hormone and the chemical balances that are taking place, but I'm like, after that chemical trigger in me, after orgasm, it triggered a very deep regret. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. And I just tell myself, I'm never going to do this again. But wait, let me just ask you this. And we'll probably get into this more a little bit later. But like, do you think that that was, I get the hormone thing of like needing to sort of leave and become detached and like go into the cave and not attached to the woman, the female? But like, do you think that your sort of feeling of regret for what you did was a hormonal reaction or maybe like a psychological, emotional kind of thing that was going on because maybe this is a thing that is you're not maybe 100%, you know, clear about.

in your own mind, right? Because it started as soon as he got off, you know, the regret started right there. So, you know, that's got to be psychological. Of course, because it has your hormones, didn't even kick in yet. You hadn't even done anything. Right, but after he's gone, it's like you get a double wave of it. You know what I mean? And you jerk off and you get a double wave of it.

And now you've become addicted. I mean, I'm telling you, it's like a drug addiction. Yeah, the highs and the lows and the ups and the downs. Yeah, you might be like an addict. Do you have any other addictions in your life, like besides this? No, other than money. Oh, like you're a big gambler or something? No, no, no.

Oh, you just like money. You like to have a lot of money. Yeah, that's not an addict. But you don't have any issues with like alcohol or anything else. You might be a sex addict. I believe in that kind of a thing. You know, people can get addicted to all kinds of things, but it's that rush and it's that, you know,

know that really, really high and then the crash and then the really, really high and the grass, you know, people, you know, people, you know, and if that person gives them like a inconsistent kind of high by being really nice to them and then totally vanishes, right? Like people have like these sick sort of fascinations of people that treat them like shit. And it's the same thing. It's that. It's the humiliation. Well, no, it's the benefit, the benefit, the good, the good, the good.

And then the nothing, nothing, nothing. And then the, you know, it's like, but that kind of stuff, it's like, they did studies. It's like the mouse and the reward. You know, it's like it's a, it's a psychological mind fucking game, you know. And so it can be a very addictive thing. So basically you become like the rat on the, in the cage, you know, on the circle thing. And you're always chasing that, you know, more cock because you want that, you know, up and that down. That right, that cock, chasing that cock.

And to me, it's a, it's a. also has some humiliation aspect to it. Yeah, you use that word in my, in your email. And how is it, how is it humiliating? I mean, that's probably part of the thrill for some reason for you, right? Exactly. And how is it? Why would you use that word?

Like, what about it is humiliating for you? Are they like jizzing on your face? Is it that you're on your knees? Like, what is it that makes you feel that way? Yeah, yeah, exactly. All of the above. Mm-hmm. I mean, from servicing a guy all the way through, you know what I mean?

Mm-hmm. And as far as encounters that I like better, I like more aggressive-type men, you know, more verbal. Mm-hmm. I mean. So that you feel more used. Like, the more used and abused you feel, right? And the more powerless you feel, the more of a turn-on-it-it-is for you. That's your thing.

Right. Right. Right. We could get into that. I mean, there's probably reasons for that, right? But that's just like, and that's how you set it up for yourself. And that's what you experience in these encounters, I'm assuming. Right. And now, not all guys are going to do it. Some guys just want you to sit, just want to lay black and they want you to blow them. Yeah. But when, like you said before, you get that guy who's more skilled and knows what time it is on this thing.

He's there to take total pleasure. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. And I think some guys are the opposite of you. They have the same, they have the same sort of thing where they're really into something specific. And it's specifically what they like to do is humiliate somebody.

So they're on the other end. Like you're, you know, you're living out what they really like, which is them being in the power position, right? Right. Exactly. And I usually, and I'm taking the feminine position on this. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

I'm doing it. And so. It makes you feel like you have like a connection to how a woman would feel in this scenario. Mm-hmm. And it really is a turn-on. It really is. For you, that's your thing, right? Uh-huh.

Yeah. And now let me ask you this. When you're with a woman, who are you in that situation? Are you the more aggressive person? Are you Pat Lake? What is it when you're with a woman? Like, what kind of things do you enjoy? Do you think you switch up totally or you're very similar with women?

men? I think I'm in service to them more so than that, I mean, that dominant male. And I know that women are attracted to that, you know? And that's who you are with women? I'm not the dominant male with women either. I mean, I'm more service toward them. So it plugs into it sexually both ways with men and women for me. I don't switch up. Okay, cool. And do you like any kind of humiliation stuff with women as well when you're feeling, when you're having sex with them? it doesn't get to that type of level. Right, okay. You fulfill that with the men in your life.

You're probably right. Yeah, right. Let me ask you this. When you were with that first guy, right, were you in a relationship? I had just got out of one. I had been in a long-term relationship and this thing, and while I was living with her, I would be on the internet looking through the, at that time, it was mainly the, Yahoo personals.

Yeah. I would be looking through the Yahoo personals and posting some of those ads looking for the type of guy that fit into the criteria that I was looking for to suck his dick, you know?

Right. And it's, I do think that that kind of affects your relationships. Yeah, because there's some part of you that's not really present, right? Right. You're not 100% in.

So, you know, an intimacy, right? Real intimacy. I can't say that that relationship failed because of that, because most relationships fail anyway. Exactly. Yeah. And you were how old at that time, young, late 20s, like. 20s, upper 20s. Right.

And how long was that relationship? Last total. Four years. And did you ever get married? No. Okay. And so you I mean,

we could get more into like what it has to do with like your relationship stuff but like so you, that guy I know because you told me in your email that like when he came back up right?

Did he come back? So he went down to meet his wife and then he was driving back alone like he didn't drive back with her? Maybe he didn't. She flew down. I think that she flew down to Orlando and she flew back.

Oh, because he took his car down. He took his car back. Oh, he must have done that car thing all the time. He was probably getting blow jobs all the time. Like that was probably something. I think that he was probably using his work to. Yeah. I mean, they do that, you know.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I've heard it all on my show. Now I know for sure that that's the deal. Okay, so when he comes back up, right, he decides to call you up and see if you're around to do the same thing. And you said no at first. Like, you were like, I'm not doing this again. Like, so that sort of regret thing lasted for a little while. Is that right? It lasted for a long time. He called like a week later. And that was in before the days I had a cell phone. I just had a home home phone. Right. And I'm sitting in the living room and I was working two jobs at the time. So it was kind of, I was kind of too busy with work to do anything anyway. Right. But anyway, I just so happened to be home that afternoon. And the phone rings and it was him. And he leaves a message and said, look, I met you here a few days ago.

If you wanted to meet up again. And I just let him leave a message and hanged up and then he left. So I never met the guy again. Right. I never met him because I was still in that. I can't believe what I fucking did here. You know what I mean? I couldn't believe it. Right. And so anyway, he goes on, but it's, you know, I'm living by myself at this particular time. I could have easily had him come back over and could have him off again. Right. I wish I would have. In retrospect, but, you know, you just kind of like a fledgling learning, a fledgling learning how to fly, I guess. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Well, I think you were, like, coming to terms. Like, that was, like, the first time, right? You were, like, sort of admit, like, you really became, like, a part of yourself that you were keeping under wraps for a really long time, right? I mean, you can, you can never unsuck a dick, you know what I mean? That's right. you know right you can't go back this is the only thing you could do is like go forward like eventually you were like back on it right like how long did it take for you to be like

I got it like before like all of the sort of guilty feelings won away and you became you know back to normal and you were on a mission to go find another one I found another one probably within like six weeks but I was on but I was on the boards long before and then probably probably that night after that guy called. Right. I was back on the boards again looking to just reading the ads and stuff. Try playing it a little safe, but still like, you know, looking around.

And I finally found a guy who was in a town. I mean, this was a quick, like, if you ever want to give a guy, if you're going to meet a guy and he's looking for carhead, you know, beat, suck him off in the park, you know, that's going to be a quick blow and go. Yeah, which is what you're looking for. Which is good for you, right? The quick blow and go, isn't that what you want? Because you don't want to be worried that they're looking for something more, right?

I would assume that that would be perfect for you, no? Yeah, yeah. But it is. But, you know, also I was doing research on the Internet how to give good head and stuff like that and start to explore things like deep throat and edging. Oh, right, right. So you need a bet. Like you need something to be laying.

down on and put your head back and all that stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah, you say, you know, because I really, he said I did pretty good, but I think that I was missing some technique, you know what I mean? Right. Okay. I mean, it takes some skill, you know. Yeah, you don't, yeah, you have to figure it out and be, and you wanted to do, you

wanted to give good head. Right, you want to give good head. Yeah. Yeah, that's what you want to do because it's going to be more enjoyable for him. plays into that he's using you. Your mouth is becoming his pussy, really. Right, and you sort of servicing him in the best way. That's like a part of like the role that you like to play.

You know, being the best and doing everything. It is more the submissive thing, right? Trying to please. It's that need to please. Right. And, but anyway, it wasn't long and I met a guy in a parking lot. It was an area that I knew in a town. I had to drive to meet this guy.

Right. Right. But we finally did meet up. And that was the second guy I sucked off. And it was just a quick blow-and-go deal, just like what you said. And so then I came back home. I mean, that was just a simple connection. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But let me ask you this. Was there less guilt and less of that sort of, holy shit, what I just do after the second time? the wash of guilt still came over me, but it went away faster. Okay, right, okay. Yeah. And then I met this other, this, then on the message boards, I met this guy who had every bit of a nine-inch dick. Right.

I mean, he. You like big dicks is what it is for sure, right? I'm a size queen, right? Right, uh-huh. Right. But the guy I met before, the second guy, he was not that big. He was like on a six-inch, maybe something like that, right? Right, okay.

And it was like, when I got him off, it was like he blew his load. And it was like, I mean, you know, here it is in my mouth and everything. You know, guys want you to swallow, you know? Yeah, uh-huh. I mean, don't you want someone like when you're with someone to do it to swallow, right? You're a guy you could understand. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but, you know, you pretty much, you know, if you're sucking them all.

I mean, the taste is already there anyway. You've already done the deed, you know what I mean? You just have to go ahead and giving that last bit that he wants, you know, good service. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, listen, if you're going to be like, if you want to be humiliated and be pleasing and you have to swallow or have them jizz all over your face, I think that's like the epitome of being humiliated. I had a whole jiz quiz once because I've had this argument and this.

thing about like people that like to jizz on women's faces and people that you know want to be jizzed on like I think there's nothing more humiliating than that do you like for people to just like come all over your face yeah and that I mean that guy the third guy that I met that 9.5 inch yeah beautiful clock that I met yeah he was more in he was like the first guy he was but I think that he was a little bit more, you know, he was a little bit more, what do you call it, like you would say, more professional about it. He knew what he was doing. He knew what he wanted.

He knew you were going to be a cock sucker, and he was going to use every inch of it. Right. Yeah. So this guy, I mean, and he was a married guy, too. I don't know what the second guy. I don't know what he was. Right. This guy was married, too.

And you liked when they were married, right? Did that make you feel safer? Either married or whether. with a girlfriend and I don't know what he had. I think he didn't have a wedding ring on, but I think he had a girlfriend. Okay. But anyway, he was in a relationship.

Yeah. So anyone. But he had to drive from the town that he worked in. He had to go up into another state. Let's just put it in that way. Right. To see you. Oh, to work.

Okay. Uh-huh. From his house to his work. Yeah. But he had found this, this little flea-bitten hotel, what kind of place you would get bed bugs in, right? Nice, yeah, uh-huh.

So I had been talking with it, and we talked on the phone a bunch of times, and it was probably about a 45-minute drive for me. But I went, and we met at this hotel, and this guy became someone that I saw on more than one occasion, So, right. So now you start this guy becomes like a regular because it was like the biggest dick you ever seen and it was really good. I mean, it was hard to deep throat. I mean, I couldn't deep throat it. You tried. Yeah, I mean, but I wasn't good back then. Right. Okay. How many times did you wind up seeing him?

I'll probably saw him at that hotel at least a dozen times. Right. Right. And he had me I mean, you talk about like wanting to give a facial.

He gave me, I mean, he knew I had to drive to get there, right? Mm-hmm. And so, anyway, he always paid for the room. I got to give him that, you know? Right. But, um,

he, um, he shot a load all of it. He wanted it, you know, most of the time he wanted me to swallow it, you know. But this one time he blew his huge facial, you know, it's like you're sitting down there, you get working that big. And he just pulled out and he just blew that huge facial all over my face. Right. And it was like, and then he's like, and I'll get ready to wipe it off, right? And he's, and he's doing a whole nine yards. You look up at me, baby, smile at me.

me just like you would treat a woman, you know what I mean? And he's like, blows like maybe, I don't know, half a dozen nice jets to come all over my face. And he is and I'm getting ready to wipe it off and he's pulling back and he said, no, don't wipe it off. I said, why not? He said, I want you to drive home like that.

Oh, wow, you must have love that. And he's, and I'm like, do you want me to what? And I said, I can't, it's at my eyes. And he's like, well, just make your eyes where you can see. But I want you to drive home with that spooge all over your face. And so, you know, you're right. And I'll, you talk about the humiliating aspects of it. Yeah. No sooner than I walk out the door. And that's like this flea shanty hotel right, like, wait. Yeah. There's like this woman out there. And I have to walk past.

her and she's like, oh my God, she sees it, right? Oh, my. Well, did she say anything? I mean, did she just look at you? I mean, what would you say? Oh, my God. I mean, she just, like, said, oh, my God, you know? Oh, my God.

And then I just, like, covered my face up and went to my car and left. Oh, my God. But, you know, everyone in that hotel is doing something fucked up. She might have been high on heroin or, like, who knows what she was doing, too. So don't worry about it. But I think apart, but I think both of you in this scenario, That's why he became your regular. Like you were the person that liked to be humiliating,

humiliated. He had, and he liked to humiliate. Like, that's, you guys were like perfect lovers for each other. Well, I mean,

Right? Lovers may be a bit much, but. Well, you know what I'm saying. If you're going to go have sex, it's so, like a friends of benefits,

I don't know, what do you want to call? Yeah. Yeah. Right? But that wasn't the only thing that guy got me to do. I mean, he liked for me to,

like, do my lips up and lipstick and stuff. Oh, that's interesting. And he, and so, you know, so I bought several lipsticks. I mean, I got, like, I went to Mac and got, like, some, like, some lipsticks, like, Ruby Blue and Russian Red and stuff like that. Oh, that's interesting that you would took it a little that farther. Because I was thinking when you were talking to me about, like, being the girl, the girl,

like you use the word of the girl in the scenario, like, if it ever crosses over into any kind of, sort of like that you want to be a female kind of a thing. How did you feel about like when you were doing the whole lipstick thing for him? Like was it like, oh, like, you know, because sometimes women, men, whatever, they're just like, I'll just do it for the other person because that's what they like. But sometimes you're like you're, you actually like it too, right? Which was it? Were you doing it just because that's what he wanted you to do or did when you started to do that?

Like, was that a turn on for you as well? It was kind of a turn on for me as well because we had talked about it mutually before we had ever encountered anything. But the problem with me is I don't have a feminine face. I do have like a feminine mouth, like small mouth. Uh-huh. But I don't have a feminine face. Right.

So I never, I did try some like some lashes and eyeliner and stuff one time. Mm-hmm. But it doesn't work for me, you know what I mean? Right. You look ridiculous. But I don't make a pretty good red lip, though. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess.

Was he the only guy that you did the whole lipstick thing? with or did you take that on to other people? I did meet a few other guys that were into it. But I'm going to go ahead and tell you, by and large, the majority of the guys you meet are not going to be into that kind of thing. Because they want you to just be a guy. I guess that's what they want. I don't know. But the majority of them are not going to be like put on a lipstick from them.

It's like, I mean. Yeah, that's like a specific. That's like a, like a, like, to me, that's like a, like a, I mean, you know, it's like a very specific thing that I don't think would be like a common thing, right? Right. But it's an interesting thing. And it's interesting that you liked you too. Not that just he wanted it, but you actually were into it. Yeah.

And I went and looked up some tutorials and stuff and how to make it, you know, make it right. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So that you get the, uh, the beige right. in the conditioner right and, you know, the lining and all that stuff, right? I've looked up a lot of that stuff and

learn how to do it. Would he make you wear the lipstick, like, on the way home? That was kind of, like, one of the things he would do a couple of times when I, because I only met this guy, like, maybe a dozen times or so.

Uh-huh. And this is probably about, like, coming toward the end of this sexual encounter that I'm having with him right toward the end of the encounters. And he's like, you know, you're sitting down there and you're seeing how far you can get that red line on that cock. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. It makes you feel just like a woman.

And you like that? Yeah, yeah. It was fun, thrilling. And you're sitting down there and, of course, it's messing your lipstick up, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So he winds up getting off And this was I want to have swallowed

I swallowed most of his loaves When I met him Right Yeah It's only a few facials A facial without lipstick I think it was only like two facials with him One with lipstick and one without

Right But towards the end he started to want to push the lipstick thing further Make you drive home with it Or make you drive there with it Or like what was his deal? Yeah I had to bring it there And I would put it on there You could do a good lip.

Since he's rented a hotel room, you know, you had several hours, you know. Right. You could do a good, you know, the lip balm and everything, which I, one thing I did take away from that, having good lips, it really does help. With lipstick? And I've probably got like five or six different lip bombs and they're all effeminate, you know, all feminine in the feminine tube, like lipstick tubes. Uh-huh. But doing your lips up right really does make for a better blow job, I think. You need to at least put them a bit bar on, you know?

Mm-hmm. Okay. So anyway, you know, sitting down there, and I gave, so I gave him head, sucked him off, and, you know, that good little girl, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And you got your lipstick messed up, and he's like, baby, you need to fix your lipstick before you head home. Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he wanted me to go, so, why don't you go in and just touch that lipstick up and before you,

head out. Yeah. Right, there you go. Right. And you did it. Yeah, and I did it. And I even remember the color. It was Matt Red.

That's a good color. Yeah. So why you stopped seeing him? Do you know? Did it just stopped? Like, maybe he found someone else or like you just stopped talking to each other. Like, was there a thing that happened?

Nothing really happened. It just that the encounters were becoming longer. distance apart in terms of time. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. And so I didn't, and this was only the third guy I met. Part of the sexual thrill of it is just meeting different people and trying to do different

things. And of course, by now I'm trying to work on deep throat skill. And he was an excellent one to practice on, I've got to say. You couldn't do it, but it was good practice. It was good practice. And so I started searching online, and I found some, I found a, it's called a Super Cox Dildo. It's really a vibrator. It's insertible like eight inches, eight and a half inches, I think is what it was.

Total length was like nine inches. And I got to the point where I could throw it all the way, you know, that thing at the base where you turn it on. I got to the point where I could throw it all the way down to that and my lips could feel the ridges of that thing where you turn it on. Right. So you taught yourself how with that? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And so, and then you're, I mean, it just kept progressing to more and more things like this. Like what? Like taking it? Because I was going to say before, like, you know, because you were. were saying that like you would need more than the ad you need to meet somebody and so they can be

only like blow jobs right like how far do you have to take them after like you initially like you know after the thrill of that sort of wears off right because now you've done this naughty thing a bunch of times and you know you've worn lipstick like how far have you taken it to keep that thrill going um i've done the lipstick thing a few times like a like the guys don't want that you know they're just not, most of them are not going to be into that. Right, right. You'll find some that I want you to wear panties and stuff like that. Mm-hmm.

And I've done that a few times. One guy brought panties from his wife, wanted me to put them on. And, you know, you do things like that for one. Right. And, uh-huh. But, you know, I was, one time I was giving this guy, it was carhead again, and it was like, he was like, he was like, driving around, right?

And we met in a mall parking lot and I got into his truck and we were out driving around. It was like 10 o'clock at night. And a few miles down the road, I finally get him off. He pulls over and he like throws me out of the truck. Oh my God. You know?

You had no idea that was going to happen. I mean, he's like you just, well, baby, That was pretty good head. And it's time for you to get out, time to go. I said, where am I at? Yeah. What did you do?

You know, how do I get back to my car? I mean, he said, just walk down that highway that way. You'll see them all. And it was like two and a half miles away. Oh, my God. Did you, did that kind of turn you on? Because it was like you were really treated like a piece of garbage. Yeah, I mean, now why is that erotic?

is that way? I don't know. I think because you have that in you and then because you're satisfying it, you know, you got the dick in your mouth and all these things that like used to be like the thing that would be like humiliating for you. But then so now you just got to be, it's like the,

you need them more and more. It's like any kind of addiction, quote unquote, I think that you, you know, it's like you need more to get you off, right? And so I just think that you have a part of you that likes humiliations. So anything that plays into that is going to be great. There's nothing more humiliating than being kicked out of a car.

Like as a woman, right? If I really liked a guy or whatever, I'm like with a guy ride and I give him a blowjubber, then he throws me out of the car. I mean, like, if my girlfriend came to me with that story, I just would be like, oh, my, like, you just would, how do you recover from, like, how many showers do you have to take before you feel like a normal person for that? Because you feel that there's nothing more shameful than that. Do you know what I mean?

It's such a fucking diss. Right. like you have that connection, that female, like you're saying, what's like if a girlfriend came to you, it's almost like I feel like that girlfriend, you know what I mean? And some part of you,

like, that gets you horny. Right. And sometimes I wish I did have more feminine look. But, you know, that's water under the bridge. You're never going to have that, you know? Because you like the whole, I mean, maybe you got a little bit of a cross-dresser in you. Yeah, somewhat, yeah.

Right? Did you ever turn the clothes? You said you've done the panties. Like, was that a turn on two or did you like mostly the makeup? The makeup looks better, you know? Uh-huh. But I just, like, I don't have the features for it. You know what I mean?

Right, right. Just too masculine. You wouldn't have it made when it comes to getting dicks. I've got to say that. What do you mean? Like, we could just have them at any time and you want them so bad that you're a little jealous. Right. You have a smorgas board to choose from them.

So I have a little bit of pussy indie too. Oh, right. It's like you want to be a girl. Yeah, but you know, you can't cross that threshold. You just have to work with what you've got in the confines of what you've got. Right. And now how many guys do you think in this whole, you start in your late 20s, you're in your mid-40s. So you've been doing this for about 15 years maybe?

Like, how many guys have you seen in that time? Is it like too many to count? like 27, you know exactly how many? Is it like, you know, what? I would venture more toward the too many to count. Mm-hmm. Like thing, because, I mean, I would even, like, go, like, on vacation, do, like, an overnight trip.

Mm-hmm. To Charleston, South Carolina was one place I went to. I went to Columbia and I went to Atlanta. Now, were you going there, like, on business? And then you just saw people while you were there? like what were you doing in those places? Were you just cruising guys or were you on vacation by yourself just traveling? Like what was your deal?

I was just specifically on a dick sucking vacation. Oh, that's interesting. Like you would save up all your money to be like, I'm going to Columbia because I want Colombian dick, not because like, you know. Not Columbia in the country. I'm talking about Columbia, South Carolina. Oh, my God, I'm sorry. No, I'm kind of very leery about.

I'm thinking you're traveling the world. You're just traveling the United States, you know, the town next to you. Yeah, a few miles away. Yeah, but,

sorry, let me just recover from that. Okay, so you're, I'm going to tell you, like, those countries, like SPDs are going to be really prevalent,

and I don't really. Right. No, because, listen, I knew these, I knew a certain group of guys that used to,

like, get all their buddy together and go to, like, Brazil. and have like hooker vacations like guys do go travel places just for the sex for real you know i just i so okay but anyway but you're like started you took it on the road and you would go like so you start you were like you've had this as a little bit of a addiction maybe it is an addict i told

you it's like an addiction it's like a drug addiction yeah right and like through all your relationships like you've seen guys on the side uh not while i was dating another girl I mean, I only live with that one. And then from then on, I never really lived with any, but I did have some long-term relationships in there. Uh-huh. But it was never fall away. You know, you knew it was like the hounds of hell chasing you.

Right. So even though you be with a woman, you still wanted to be with men. So you would do it when you were with the girl behind her back, or you stopped when you were with girls? What did you say? I can't say I completely stopped. but it gave you more of an incentive to not do it. But I want to tell you, to me, relationships become boring kind of quickly.

Right. And what happens is, well, how do I stay off his boredom? Well, there's always that Craigslist guy that you haven't met yet, that you can go fine. And you can go suck his cot and he'll blow a load in him out. and you'll get that thrilled again. Right. And it's never gone old for you. That never gone old, no.

And no, does anybody besides me and all my listeners now, like, know about this thing that you do? Or is this, and besides the guy that you're with? I'm assuming nobody else knows, right? No one knows, no. And let me ask you, would, like, people that know you, if they found out, would they be, like, totally shocked? Because that's how I feel. I feel like, that's why I do my show, because I'm just. Like these are like the regular people doing these things

Are just like you would never really realize right Like would people be like holy shit Like I would never have any idea that you were like so into blowing guys on the side Like are you super macho kind of guy you know what I mean Exactly exactly just what you just say Like they would never have anybody that would never think that no Right they would be blown away Yeah and you've never come across like are you very smart when you do your ads and stuff

Like you never came across somebody that you you knew or anything like that because you know i had somebody out recently and they were like about to meet a couple and then they found out it was like their sister-in-law and her husband or some weird crazy shit like that and i was like oh my god you have to worry about like who you're you know what are the odds if you're sort of looking for dick in your town or the next town right that you might run into somebody from work or somebody's brother you know you just don't know right did you have any kind of crazy experiences like that or you could look at people far away that's why i travel away from this town that I'm in.

Yeah, I go away. So you've never had that problem. And, and of course, you don't want to have strangers coming over to your house to God, or who I have had had come by here, but, but you don't have, you don't, you can't have your house like looking like a drug house, different people all the time, you know? Right, right, different guys coming in and out all the time, right? They'll wonder what the fuck's going on. So you're smart about it.

And it's not like you're cheating so much. So it's not like you have to hide what you're doing on your computer or anything like that, right? Because I'm assuming you're constantly on maybe, I guess, Craigslist now. Is that where you get your guys? Craigslist and a few other sites on there, any kind of connection something like that. But I did have a girlfriend one time. And this was something that was kind of, uh-oh. We were going to the movies, right?

Right. So we're going to stop by me. my house for a minute and I'm going to find out what's playing at the movie theater. Of course, the computer is asleep. Right. And so I shake the mouse and wake it up. Oh, no. There's this picture of a big ass cock on the computer screen.

Oh, my God. How long were you dating her for? Probably three or four months. Okay. What did she do? I just heard her have a, I heard that that, that, suck in of breath. I heard that.

She saw what was there. Yeah. But she was cool about it and she didn't say anything. And we went and looked up what was on at the movie theater. We wouldn't watch the movie. And she didn't say anything. And she stayed dating you after that? Yes.

We continued to date after that. Interesting. I would have like a million questions. Yeah. I'm pretty sure she did. I'm always so jealous at these women that could just keep like their minds out of like these sort of situations that come up with men that sort of are so obvious that they're like either cheating or fucking guys or all, you know, and it's like the women are just able, some women are just able to completely be like oblivious to it. It's like, you know? She could have played her cards right and we could have probably blew a guy together or something. Right. You mean if she had brought it up. Would you be like if you met a girl, right? Like I don't know. Like that for your relationship was your longest relationship. You get bored. You might just not be like a relationship person, right? But if you met a girl, right? And somehow it came up, you know, or she admitted to maybe she told you I like by guys, you know, and you're like, oh God, like that's perfect because I like, like, like, would you be open to sort of letting a woman know what you're into and doing that with a girl?

I mean, it's like, that's things you're hiding from your relationship partner. You know what I mean? But what if you didn't have to hide it? Like, what if she brought it up? Like, is it something? Like, would that be great? Like, would that be, like, the perfect woman for you? Like, you could be with her.

What? I might test her. I mean, this is the female woman to be now, right? Women like to test. You know what I mean? They like to test guys. I might put the shoe on the other foot. And I might would test her.

And I was like, oh, really? How would you like to see me suck? dick or something like that, you know? Right. Just probe it and see what she says. Uh-huh. And what if she said? Like, what if she said, that would actually turn me on?

Uh, I would say, I would probably tell her to find a guy. And, of course, I would have final say, I mean, right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But you'd be into it. Like, you would sort of be open to exploring that with a woman if she was

into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really would. And since I can't buy all those feminine things from me, I'd buy them for her. Let me tell you, there was a guy. I forget what his fake name was. And I'm taping his podcast tomorrow. He was a guy that was doing a lot of this kind of stuff behind his wife's back, but they were doing a lot of like stuff together that was like really hardcore.

That I was like, why wouldn't you just tell her that you're into God? I don't know. And he did tell her. And I'm getting the scoop on what. went down with that kind of information tomorrow. Actually, I'm taping that episode, but it's always sort of interesting. I mean, I do think that there are women out there that would be okay with that. I mean, it's hard to find.

It's not the common thing, you know, but, you know, maybe for you, that would be, that's probably the right kind of girl for you. And if you could be sexually sort of like open and you're really with somebody in a relationship, you'd probably be more into a relationship. Yeah, it definitely would Because it wouldn't be just that same Vanilla thing all the time Would you get bored of?

Yeah, as you get bored of But you know, you might be like I mean vanilla Like I think sometimes people that are like You don't have addictive personality types Or like are addicts because I was one You know, I'm like a sober person For like 14 or 15 years at this point

And what happens a lot of time And you know Is that What feels like like you say vanilla is just like a regular relationship like real relationships are like kind of flat right they're not like really really up or down you know like you know they're not like what you experience when you go to me guys and so like maybe you know what happens you know what's going to happen next yeah but like with addicts what happens is they need that up and down they need that high

they tracing their dragon like you know they need that rush is what they become addicted to or used to that. So if you have something that doesn't have that, it's not appealing, right? What turns you on is that sort of rush and that high and that thing and, you know, and chasing the dragon. And so if you're in a normal relationship that's good and you don't have that, you know, that's not going to do it for you. But like if you sort of fixed yourself up, right? And, you know, and we're in an attic, you know, like you could be in a relationship and be okay with that sort of flat line kind of experience, which is very different than being an addict. Because I lived as an attic with that up and down and all that high kind of stuff. And now I live like just that regular sort of at peace

kind of vanilla life that you say. And it's much better, I have to say. Because the problem with chasing the dragon all the time is that like you, you don't always get it. Like a more, you're more disappointed than not. Maybe you're not. Like me, you know, I don't know. Like, how do you feel like your dick sucking thing? Like, do you feel like it's, you feel like it's, It's just something that you love to do and it totally fulfills you? Or do you feel like you're always still searching to scratch that itch? Yeah, you're always scratching the itch. And I mean, I don't know how you could ever feel fulfilled just by getting guys off in your mouth.

I mean, you know what I mean? Len, let me ask you this. How long of time do you, does it like consume a lot of your time, like looking for the guys, arranging meeting them, posting ads, looking through ads like besides the actual meeting them. Like is it a part of, is it like a huge part of your life? Or is it just something you do every now and then maybe once a month or every couple of,

you know what I mean? I'm probably on Craigslist just perusing probably once every day. Mm-hmm. Just to see if something. And I might post an ad once now, back in my peak, I was posting ads like crazy. And all right.

But now I might post one every month or, so. Uh-huh. And then you're on. Right. And I might meet a guy about maybe every, every month. And I probably commit with that every month or so or something. Not too often now.

And you'll get text messages back from some guy that you met before. Hey, are you still on it? Or, you know. Right. But you need new, right? Every, all the time, right? Isn't that what you need to keep sort of moving forward to keep this like, you know, a turn on, right?

Variety. And another thing that I'm sharing with women on this type of stuff is like when you're younger, it seems like you have more alternatives. You know what I'm saying? But as you get a little bit older, you may not necessarily. Right. Not everyone wants that. Listen, remember what you said when you, I remember what you said about that first dad,

you're like, you know, you were in your late 20s and your age range was someone around your age. In late 20s, remember, think of how what, how. how you feel in late 20s. In your 20s, you think like 40s. People in their 40s are so old, right? Right. You know, and now you're in your 40s, right?

And you feel the same as you did in your 20s. So you're like, I'm not old, but you can't explain that to your 20-something-year-old self, right? We can't tell that to. People don't have to experience it themselves. I mean, some people have a thing for older, right? But a lot of times for somebody that's younger, right? it's, uh, they're more looking for people of their own age, right? And not as many. And people are looking for older. But I think with you and what you're looking for, you're going to get, there's

a lot of guys in your age range. I think younger generation are more open about things that they do. And I think a lot of people are living less like sort of secret lives and they're doing these things more out. And the open, I think, a little bit more than when you were, you know, growing up, because I'm more a part of your generation, right? So I think that there's a lot of guys in their 40s and 50s and 60s that are, you know, maybe in relationships, married or divorce, and they're secretly into having a guy suck their dick. I think there's tons of them still available. So I would be surprised that you can't get as much action as you did when you were younger.

Well, that 40-year-old guy, once a 25-year-old guy, suck in his dick. Oh, right. Oh, yeah, duh. I forgot, right. And would you, right, right. If you see that and, you know, that's going to, you'll see that prevalently. Right, I forgot that. You're the girl.

I forgot you're the girl in the relationship. Right. Yeah, you're being the girl. Yeah, you're the girl. And even in your life, right. Who's going to get more dick? I mean, the young college haughty or the woman who's 45 years old, 50 years old, the young college hotties going to get hit on a lot.

Yeah, it's just the way that it goes. I mean, people are attracted. It's like, you know, the youth. I mean, yeah. Bane. I mean, I mean, maybe there, what's the word I'm looking for here? They're, and I am too. I mean, I really have attracted to.

So you have to go for really old guys. So you'll be the young one. Like, you have to go for like 65 year old guys. See, I'm not attracted to that. There you go. Right. What if they have a really big dick? Yeah, maybe if he's 50.

Right. Well, what is your age range? I mean, would you go with the 55-year-olds or no way? No way. I would probably cut it off in the mid-50s, something like that. Right. Okay. But I'm telling you know, that guy who's in his mid-30s and his crime, I mean, that's the one that you want. But the older you get in a situation like I am, the less you're going to have it. Yeah. I think what you should use in your ads is like the word daddy. Oh, God. No, what do you mean? Oh, God.

Then you're going to track the guys, the younger guys that have that fantasy. That's a fantasy. The daddy thing. You will find that occasionally. You're going to have to start using it because you're going to be in your 50s soon. And you pull that card. I'm just telling you it'll help. And you're going to find a whole other guy.

It's like a fetish thing. Do you know what I mean? You know? I think I just need to find a good woman now. Right. Are you like looking for maybe a real relationship? Are you lonely? What's your deal?

Yeah, if a good woman were to come along, yeah, I would. But how far I could tell her about this side of me, it will always be like a roadblock. Yeah, because I don't think that... Soon a while later, if you have somebody really intimate in your life, you have to be able to tell them everything about yourself. Right. That relationship is always fractured. Right. So, you know, keep me posted if you meet a girl.

I mean, like this whole story I think is so fascinating because it's like I've heard it many, many times, right? Right. It's not uncommon as people would think that it is. No, it's not. Because every guy besides you, right, you have all those guys that you can't count on your one hand, right? I mean, if you want to know a true number, I would say it'd have to be at least 150 different guys. Right. And my last question to you is all those guys, right, out of that 100,000 of guys.

Would you say, what's the percentage of them that were like doing this on the down low? And what percentage were gay? 100%. 150 of them. 100%. I would scream for that. I did not want to meet an effeminate type gay guy at all. I did not want that.

Right. So there you go. And you're one guy, right? And that's 150 guys out there living a double life. And it's more than that because there's a lot of them that contacted me that they would send me like pictures and stuff. I mean, like I say, I would screen like the Red Cross. Yeah. I had one guy who sent me a picture of beautiful dick and this has not been but two months ago. I still got it in my email somewhere. He sent me a dick pick and it was like

a beautiful cut, nice, perfect cock, the kind that you really would like to worship. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That nice looking. He was like 29 something. He was like 29 something. You know, years old. And you could look at his hand and you could see where he had been a heroin injection mark. Oh, you saw track marks. And so that guy, you know, as much as I wanted to and would have loved for it to been something, it was not going to work. Right. Well, at least you're smart about it, you know? I think you're very smart about it. So that's a good thing. So I even look at their fingernails. Like if they take a picture of their dick,

you can see their feet and stuff. Uh-huh. You know, their toenails and stuff. I think I'll make a judgment call based on that. I know. I just talked to a girl that takes dick picks. And I was like,

it's almost a fascinating part of a dick pick to me is always like the other things in it, right? Like what I could read. Like, where are they? Like what, you know, like the background stuff, right? You could get a lot of information sometimes from a dick pig. And guys have no idea you're looking at. Look, you're looking at toenails and stuff, right?

I mean, well, you want to see how clean they are, right? Yeah, yeah. On dating websites, when people would post

pictures of themselves, I would be looking at like their window treatments and stuff in the back to sort of analyze like how nice their places. It's terrible, but like we all look like that.

But anyway, I know you have to go. So thanks so much for calling in and being so honest about all the stuff that you do. All right, Kathy,

have a good day. You too. Thanks so much for calling in. Bye. All right. Bye. Okay. Okay.

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