Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 229 - Paolo has a Panty Fetish

Episode Date: April 30, 2018

Paola calls in to discuss his major panty fetish. When did he first realize he was into panties? What exactly does he like to do with them? How does his wife feel about his fetish? Tune in for all the details including how his fetish led him to wear other womens clothing and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Now, I have a lot of guys that are into panty hose that have called into my show. I know that that's a big old fetish that lots of people are into. But this is a panty fetish. And I didn't know whether he was like, I had just assumed he was into sniffing them because I've had some guys on my show that like to sniff panties. But he's into panties in a whole different way, which is probably the more common way.

I don't know. I'm not going to tell you what it is. You're going to have to listen to the episode. But we talk all about it. Like when it started, of course these kind of fetish things always seem to sort of start up it when they're really, young, right? When you're really young, is that when they most of the time start? I think so. That's what I typically hear on my show. So he talks all about like the first time he realized he was into panties,

how that sort of got triggered for him, like what exactly happened, which is kind of interesting. And then how it played out in his life and how far he took his panty fetish, you know, because I have had some guys on that steel panties and stuff. I don't know. I've heard a lot of different things, but this is one episode that's all about panties. And the funny thing is, is this guy had emailed me initially, not necessarily to be on the show, but to ask if I had other guys on that had this fetish because he was interested in hearing other people's stories. So hopefully there's a lot of other people out there that are into panties and we'll hear his story and find it interesting because that's what you're looking for. Or you're like me and you just find all

of this shit interesting and you'll listen to the story and find it interesting. Interesting, interesting. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Palo. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly Anonymous

Hey, Paolo. Hey, Paolo, welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you doing today, parked in your car, in a mall or someplace? I'm doing good. I'm doing well yourself.

I'm doing good. There's so many people that always call in, they're like, oh, yeah, I'm parked in a car in a parking spot. Like, you know, and that's where a lot of people do their things. And you were like, yeah, when people are cheating. I don't know if you're a cheater.

I don't know any real information about you, except that you wrote in and you were a listener of the show and you said, I listened to, like, the panty host one, but I'm, like, into panties, and I want to know if you have any panty episodes. And I was like, do you want to come in and talk about your panties or come on the show? And you're like, yeah.

So that's all I know about you. So I don't know if you're married, if you cheat or how deep into panties you get. I don't have, like, I haven't had a guy on yet that is only, like, I don't think I had one on that's, like, strictly a panties guy. But I definitely have had on a lot of guys that talked about, a panty thing, right? Maybe, like, the guy that was into pregnant women also had a pet, like he collected panties. I've had other guys that like to suck guys' dicks, but they also collect panties, sniff panties. I had a gay guy that would buy dirty panties from guys on,

you know, shit like that, right? So what's your story? Like, how do, what's your unique panty sort of fetish? Like, how does it play out in your life? Um, you know, ever since I, you know, love you and want to talk about it. I had given a lot of thought. And right now it's like I'm really interested in them as in it's a fetish where it's always had

ever since I was a child. But it's kind of developed into what kind of pennies this girl went and I'm watching walking by to things I like to see my wife to I talk her into buying these so I could learn later.

So it's not. Like, it doesn't go as deep as the guy that would get all dressed up in pennyhose. Right, you're not doing, like, really bad things yet. Yeah, and I'm not doing real bad things. I don't think yet or any more. What do you mean anymore? Well, I mean, on that spectrum, from... Well, no, I don't want to, I don't care about other people's spectrum.

I want to hear about your spectrum. Like, when you see. say like the bad things like I'm not doing any bad things anymore like how far did you take your panty hose your panty sort of fetish in the past or in your whole life like because you've been into this since you're younger right like how far have you taken it um like what's the worst you did like because i've had guys that are like stealing their sister-in-law's panties and shit like that you know what what did you do that was like the worst Um, I guess the worst was I would, I would still my sisters because it was, I kind of blame her for her because one time she was like teasing me and showing me what she bought from Victoria's Secrets.

And right there it just clicked and I was hooked. And so a couple months go by and she had to throw them away or whatever and I would salvage them out of the trash and walk them up and, uh, and I'd shrubbed with them and stuff like that. What would you do? Yeah, of course. You were aware of them? ended up. I would wear them. I would. I used to dance around in them. Oh, see,

I didn't know. I thought this was like a panty sniffing thing. This is like a panty wearing. This is really fascinating to me because I don't know that I've had panty wears on it. Maybe the guys that snift wore them too, I don't know. But wait a second. So you blame it on your sister that's so hilarious. And the fact that it's so, like, a guy's mind

to say like, oh, and she was showing me her stuff teasing me, like as if like that's what she was doing. I don't think She was teasing you. Let me just get it straight. She wouldn't wear in it and teasing me. No, no, I know that. No.

Duh. That's why it's so hilarious that you say she was teasing me. She was just showing you what she bought, but in your guy mind, that's such the way a guy would say, like, she was teasing me, like, you know, you're the victim. She was just showing you what she bought, right? Just innocently. Her brother, she was like her first score at Victoria's Secrets. And then all of a sudden something collected, and you're like, I want to, like, you got

turned on. or maybe you just had a feeling when you saw them, like, for the first time that was, like, new for you? Yeah, just this new rush that the plate two dozen. It was the first time. It was a first time. So when she threw them out or did you go rifling through her draws, like, how did you get your hands on that first pair? They were just sitting on top of the trash cans because, look, as far as my duty, when I was younger, I had to take out all the trash. So she eventually threw them out?

So it's when she threw them out? Yeah, she just threw them out. and they looked out. Yeah, it was your fine. You were probably happy. Yeah. So I would take them in,

wash them in the sink and like that because you can't thumb in the laundry. So you took them in your room. And then did you know, but wait, let me ask you this. After you first saw them, right? Like, did you go into your room and like jerk off and think about wearing them

or jerk off and think about looking at them? Or did you not jerk off to them at all until you found them again? And that's when you realize, oh, I want to do something with these? or was it right after you saw them that you started to fantasize about it? When I first saw them, I held them, but they were not like my underwear that was caught, and they were up of them, on the side of them, whatever.

I can't even explain it just like all sense of rush, knowing that it's... Right, but I mean, did you start, like, sort of jerking off thinking about them? Because you didn't have your hands on them yet until she threw them out. And I'm assuming she didn't throw them out, like, right after she bought them, right? There was a time between when you saw them. and when you got your hands on them, right? But in between that time, right? Did you start, like, sort of pleasure and yourself thinking about them,

and this became, like, your new thing? At the time, no. Do you even remember? Right. It took actually, well, it took a couple of days because I was still thinking about them and thinking about them, and at that time I've really never jerked off. Mm-hmm.

And then, crazy enough, you learned stupid shit like that from the kids on playgrounds, And yeah, you just do like this. And like, really? Are they talking how to jerk off? Uh-huh. Yeah. I don't know. I explain it.

It's like, they make fun of people going through the motion. So some of them and then you see that and like, well, I'll try it. And it's how it works. And then, oh, my God. And then everything kind of falls into place. And then before I would salvage those out of the trash, I would kind of go looking for them on top. but just open the top drawer where she kicked all her panties and kind of just looking without rustling anything.

Mm-hmm. And would you take them into your room or would you just leave them there? I wouldn't touch them because I was so afraid to be caught. Right, right, I could imagine. Uh-huh. So it was like Christmas when I found them in the trash. Right. But did you know immediately because like, like, did you know immediately that when you were,

that you weren't just into the panties like on women that you wanted them to be on you? because that's like a different twist. Do you know what I mean? Like, did you know that you wanted to wear them? Was that a part of it yet? No, yeah, because when I did get them out of trash, I didn't play with them right away. I didn't put them on.

I held them and washed them. Right. And just kind of looked at them. They're off to them every now and then, but it wasn't until I kind of don't me that what if I put them on. Right. And then again, I was like, wow, these are kind of comfortable. And why can't my own?

They were like this. Interesting. They were more comfortable. Because they weren't like, these weren't thongs, right? I'm assuming. They were not thongs. They were at the time I didn't know, but they're called bikini breeze. Uh-huh.

So they were bikini breeze. Right. Because this had the line the string up between the back in the front. Right, okay. It wasn't a thong. Right, right. But you found that they were more comfortable. But you were also, listen, there's one thing of comfort, right?

Like if you get like, but there's another thing where it's like so comfortable that you're fucking hard. You know what I mean? Like it's not, right? Yeah. It wasn't there. There was a sexual sort of thing attached to it. Right? Definitely sexual.

It was definitely sexual because I put them on. Because your underwear doesn't make you horny, right? No. Right. At that time, no. Right. Uh-huh. So, you know, I put them on.

And the whole feeling of them were different, where the lines would fall on my hips, would follow my ass, how they'd ride in my, I guess, my crotch area. Yeah. And how, since I was a little bigger than she was, how it kept my package snug. Right. And I really, really enjoyed it, how the pressure on it. Right. And did it make it look like extra big?

You know, because it was so small, smaller than yours and tight. Right? I don't know. Because this is all guys like. want their dicks to look really big. Like, isn't that like a turn on when you look at it, right? Or am I wrong? I don't know.

I don't know anything about that part. It's like all I knew is that, all I knew is like the way it felt snug on my package. Right. Okay, cool. Unfortunately, it wasn't blessed, a shower, if you will. Oh, okay. But no, but assuming, I'm assuming you're getting hard, right, while you're wearing them while you're looking at yourself like this, right?

I mean, you're not sitting there with a soft dick, like, hanging out. in these things for long eventually, right? While you're looking at yourself, you get hard. Yeah. Right? Yep. Okay. And it's not about me looking at myself in the mirror.

It's just like I put them on and kind of run myself a little bit and then get hard. And then it's just the feeling and the pressure that these pennies are given me. Oh, interesting. Okay. So it's not like the look of them. It's not like the girly look. Like it's not like the sort of way it makes your body look. or whatever.

It's more about how it makes you feel. The first time, yes. The first time it was like, how it me feel? Right. And then after I kind of grown old entire of those, there's old cotton winds. Yeah.

I started pawing through her, George and Moore, and then I noticed that the same ones were on top, so I dig through the bottom, and I found the more prettier one, the one that are satin. Yeah. Or the ones that are like the nylon lichra,

or the nylon spandex mix with the whole In what sense? And as a, like, because, like, how to get the panties and how to keep them and where to hide them with that part of the adventure?

Because I would think, like, I mean, you're stealing your sisters. She threw one pair out. Did she constantly throw her underwear out, like, and you would find them? Like, I mean, like, how are you getting your hands? I mean, you had that one pair, right,

that she threw out. And then they said, in the beginning you were afraid to take them out of her drug. Did you become more bold after a while? I did. I did start taking that number of drawer and play with them on and... And then put them back.

I don't have to mess them all up. Yeah. I didn't put them back. I mean, can you just believe the shit that goes down that nobody knows about? Like, whenever I hear these stories, because I have a brother, I'm like, how do I know my brother didn't do that to me? And anyone listening, how do you know your brother's not doing this shit? Like, the stuff that goes down that nobody talks about, that, you know, it's just so interesting. So you would take stuff out where it's...

pleasure yourself. I would hope you wouldn't jizz all over her stuff and then put it back, would you? Like, would you come on it? No.

I wouldn't purposely jive all over her stuff. If it was accidental, then I'd do my best to wash it out, try it, hold it up nicely, and put it in there.

I usually target the panties that are at the bottom of the drawer in the back because that's the one she didn't wear for whatever reason. Yeah. So there was nothing,

was any part of it? I'm assuming the answer to this is no, but you tell me. Like, I'm assuming that none of this was because, like, none of the attraction was that it was like your sisters and this was like really naughty because you were taking it from her. It really was like the only reason why you were taking your sisters is because you were super young and this is what you're into and this was the only way to get panties, right? Or did it, or was the fact that these were your sisters and you were taking them and she didn't know about it? Like did that add to it? No, it wasn't bad. No, right? because of my sister.

It was just like this new thing that turns me to fuck on. Right. And she happened to have it. She happened to have it. And I was able to block that out of my mind

of her ever way in them. Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. That's why I was just making sure there was none of the like the sister thing going on. I mean, that's very rare. You know, I think I've had one or two of those guys out. But like, so it's not that.

So it was just that you would take your sisters and then you would. Now, I mean, I'm assuming you didn't tell anyone about this whole fetish thing for a really long time. I don't know if your wife knows. Does your wife know about it? She does. She does.

Okay. So now, how are you now? A different story altogether. Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that. How old are you? 39. You're 39. So you start doing this at a young age, right?

You're wearing them. You're turned on. You said it started out with like the feeling of it. That was a turn on. But eventually it became like the looks of it and how you, saw yourself wearing them? Yeah. Okay.

It was really because I never envisioned myself wearing them and looking at myself in the mirror. I never got turned on that way. Okay. The feeling of the type of fabric, I guess it does, the way it looks on my skin and everything like that. And it comes down

to like the idea of these little pretty panty things, real fluffy, lazy things on me that just got me going. And right more the thought of it but so there was a like the the fact that they were really girly and pretty and on you that was a part of it right and now did you ever there was one guy that emailed me recently

I think I haven't taped him yet that said he had a panos thing and it did sort of turn into like a cross-dressing thing for him because I always ask that question right because it teeters sometimes right with somebody wearing stuff like so you're like this guy that likes this stuff on him and it's kind a girly and like you kind of like that right and that's like a turn on like and did you did you get into any other girly things to put on while you were like you know hanging out with yourself i did um when i was around the same age i have found an old dress in my sister's closet that she didn't wear and i would put that on and find some panties and put those on and if i'm lucky i could find old tiny heels, but sometimes if they had their legs, the leg, the high highs.

Uh-huh. I put those on. Right. And the shoes never fit me because that was too big. Right, but you would have liked high heels, too. Like, you wanted to put, you wanted to totally, like, cross-dress now? At that time, yes. Because it was, like, it was, you just said many times in your podcast, it's like chasing

the dragon. Yeah. My dragon is this high that I got the first time I saw all these panties. kept on chasing it and then when I had a different piece of clothing in it or it gave you that new thing right right so you needed more and more to get you off but the more and more was the more feminine stuff right like that's what all these things had in common right it wasn't like more guy stuff it was like more women's stuff right yeah it was strictly women's stuff it wasn't like their slacks it wasn't there it seemed like it had to be a skirt or a dress you know very feminine

would get me off at that time. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And, of course, I would, before I started, such a... Yeah. Yeah, wow. Imagine, like, your parents and everyone in that house and not having no idea that this was going down.

So you got into that for a while, and this was, like, your hidden secret, right? I mean, you must, like, did that... Yeah. Was it, like, freaky to know, like, were you confused about it? Like, did you wonder about your sexuality, or was it, like, once you were done, you just, like, sort of blocked it out of your mind? Um... It wasn't as confusing as I guess it could have been.

When I was done, you know, I took everything out, got cleaned up right away, and sometimes thought and reminisced on what I just done. But I was never confused of my sexuality even at that young age because when it came down to it, someone had told me, like, well, if you're gay, you would find boys attractive and you would want to kiss them and do other things with them. and I've not yet to feel men attractive, you know. Right, you were into women, but you also were, yeah, because I don't think it's necessarily like a cross-dresser is gay.

Like, I don't think that that's a part of it. You know what I mean? I don't think it's connected at all. Like, you're a heterosexual guy, right, that like to wear women's clothing. But it didn't make you feel interested in, you didn't want to dress up as a woman and be with a man, right? It was just dressing up as a woman for your, Like, did you ever, like, you keep saying when I say the dressing up in other things, you say, I did that when I was younger.

Is that something that you stopped at a certain point? You don't do that anymore? Yeah, because, you know, when I was young, and I was dressing up in these clothes and I was having fantasies of having a girlfriend or having a girl that I would, I would, I would, like, well, I was all dressed up. Yeah. And then slowly, just like, again, the dragon went away, the appeal of getting full dressed up in. away, but the only thing that was still there was pennies, you know, because... Oh, interesting.

They, they change styles in my mind, in my eyes. They changed styles, they changed cuts, they add new different kind of cuts in, new different lines, going different which ways, and then you follow into the old lady panties

where, like, control tops and stuff like that, and those were a different ballgame, too, so... Yeah. And it just, different types of panties gave me more support, down there. Right. And that's what you liked, right?

That's what I liked. I like the tightness on my package. Yeah. And. That feeling never went away. I'm really pretty and really poofy. Just couldn't hold me. So they're fun to

just to jerk off in and have this little this lace and stuff like that and I'll get lucky sometimes and find some that fit me just right and they're pretty and had all the lines

and everything like that. Yeah. But so now, When you start dating, like how old are you when you start dating now? Like, was your wife the first woman that you were with that you told about this? Or no, did you tell all your girlfriends? Like, when did you start telling people about this? Because you told your wife, right?

Was she the first one? Yeah, I told my wife. She's the first one that knows that I told that I'd like to wear panties and I have this penny fetish. Right. I didn't consider it a penny fetish until she said, you have a fetish. Right. And I'm like, no, I don't. And then I look up in the picture.

Like, yes, I do. Yeah, totally, right? And so all the other girlfriends I had in the past, I guess they felt, because I never really asked that all guys like to see girls in pretty panties. So whenever we get down to it, they always have some pretty panties on. And I guess it was like everybody else, when they were working, I would sneak them away, you know, and that kind of add to my collection. Well, others, then my collection would be thrown out just because they're old. Did you ever get busted in all this time when you were living at your high? house and like you know because you had these panties like on the down low right did anyone do you know

if anyone ever found anything or did you ever get busted in anyway i got i got busted once but it was like it was more like oh that's weird i'm like yeah it is huh what with your sister we're cleaning my room no was my dad okay and the time i would store all my contraband if you will between the mattress and so we're flipping my mattress and totally forgot and we flipped it up and we're like and he didn't think they're in there and they're going to in the hamper

just like water them up. Wait, wait, how much? Wait, wait, wait, how much? Wait, wait. Wait, hold on. Was there one pair underneath your thing? Were there 20? Like, what did he find? There was about five or six. Wow. And they were underneath your mattress?

Yeah, they're underneath the mattress. Uh-huh. And so you... Those are mine, so I could throw you one to find want to. Yeah, yeah, but wait, so he, but they were girl panties, right? Yeah. What was he looking for? Why was he lifting up your mattress? Because we were changing the sheets out. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't hear that. And what they do, what we do, I don't know if I guess everyone don't do it. We put the mattress over. Yeah, sometimes, uh-huh. Yeah, okay. So you're with your father, right. And I just totally faced it. I shipped the sheets out. I was like, all right, let's have a mattress. Like, okay. And then we left it up,

like, oh, and they're getting in the thing, and I picked them up in my hand and just kind of shook them at the bottom of the hamper. If I ever spoke it again. Yeah, he lived in denial on that one, because, I mean, how do you explain that shit? I mean, dirty panties, they were, they were girls,

they weren't yours, right? But he didn't say anything about it. You didn't say anything about it, and he didn't look at you funny, maybe next night at dinner. I mean, because... Mm, well, yeah. I mean, it's oblivious to emotion, I guess, I don't know, but...

Yeah. Yeah, it was never indicated that he wanted to talk to me about it. Yeah, maybe, listen, as a guy, you might have just thought you were into, like, sniffing panties. I don't know, because, like, when you said a panty finish, I thought, oh, you're into sniffing panties. I didn't think wearing them. And I think if you're, like, a father, and it's, like, the last thing you want to think that your son is doing, it's very easy to just, like, sort of throw that out of your mind. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, in hindsight, it could be like, oh, this is my son's stroce's. exactly how old were you right how old were you then because by the time he found those by the time I had enough marriage to start getting my own panties from the back from the girls right right yeah so how old were you when he saw them I was about 15 16 years old yeah so he can totally think right that that was like

girls that had come over and you have that you know from your own girlfriends when did you lose your virginity how old were you um 15 16 or so Right, okay. And so a part of it besides you dressing up, right, and putting them on yourself, a part of your fetish is women wearing them as well. Yeah. So like... Yeah, so by the time, by that time I was out of cross-dressing myself.

And because I found a girl to, I could influence how to dress up. It's like, oh, yeah, I like you in long dresses or these kind of dresses, these kind of panties and some leggings or whatever. Oh, so it was like what you were putting on yourself now you could put on. somebody else and that did the same thing for you. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Maybe it's not cross-dressing. Maybe that was just something like, you know, it was like you're projecting that

onto yourself, but once you could do it to women, you didn't need to do it to yourself, and that was the turn on. Yeah. That's about right. Yeah. Who knows? I'm no fucking therapist. You know, whatever.

But anyway, so your first time that you lost your virginity, were, like, were you like, oh, don't take over your panties? Like, did you spend a lot of times with the girl? Because, like, you, because if your panties is your fetish, right? Like, I mean, most guys just want those panties off, right? But, like, were you, like, really interested in keeping them on? No, just because. You just wanted to get later.

Oh. That too. Yeah, that most, that's, like, number one I did, but then second is the fear of being discovered, period, you know? So if I elude too much that I like her panties and I want to leave them on her, and maybe I should try them on later for her. would not go there, you know. I'd keep it to where that part of my life is closed down while I'm with another girl. Right.

You didn't want anyone to know because maybe you thought you were weird or you didn't know what it meant, right? Because you were kind of like obsessed with them, right? But you didn't want anyone to know that you were. Yeah. Yeah, because you're still so, like, young at that time. So you have a bunch of girlfriends. You don't tell any girlfriends until your wife. How long have you been married?

Yeah. I'm living like 15 years. this year. Okay. And so how long into your relationship? Well, she's the first person you told, right? Yes. How long into your... It was about... Yeah. Yeah, about about 10 years or so into our marriage. Uh-huh. Oh, wow. That's a long time. And it's weird because my six drive will, like, ramp up once a month or so. It's so weird. What do you mean? That's like a woman, like when you're ovulating, maybe... I know, right? And that's kind of, like, the kind of like this is what I think sometimes,

but I don't get, no offense, I don't get emotional or they've done anything like that. You just get really horny. Yeah, and, you know, I started looking at porn and stuff like that, and then started wearing a penny on a daily basis. Once a month. One day, yeah. Okay, and you were doing this behind your wife's back the whole time.

I mean, you're with her 10 years, right? So you're doing this and keeping this under wraps the whole time? Yes. Okay. So does she catch you? She did not catch me. It was one of those unfortunate things where I happened to be drunk and super horny. And we were kind of sharing.

And I was like, I want to tell you something. It's not super bad. I tell her that this is something like that. But I'm really into wearing panties. Wearing them. Wow, that's ballsy. I mean, just jump straight in there. Because she knew I liked panties.

You knew I like to look at her in panties. She knew what I like to sneak out for the Victoria's Secret cataloged out come every now and then. Right. I mean, for a girl, like she... Yeah, why would she care, right? It's better than, like, you know, I don't know, some kind of weird porn, right?

I mean, I think any girl would be like, okay, you like to look at the Victoria's Secrets catalog. That's, like, it's fucking great for a girl to think that's, like, as hardcore as their guy gets, you know? Yeah. It's not so bad. So you said in your drunken sense, say like I like to wear

panties and was she drunk too? No she wasn't well she was drinking but she didn't, she knows her tolerance to not to be drunk. Right okay. And when I started to get above I start drinking heavy more. Yeah yeah.

And so I had a strong blood going on the verge of being drunk. Uh huh and you told her what she said. The time I was kind of blurted it out. She's like really and then she asked me she goes what kind do you like to wear? And my mind, like, kind of split open.

Like, maybe she's into this. And, like, I, like, there's something in your drawer that you have that you don't wear that I like to wear, and she tells me to put them on. Mm-hmm. I'm like, oh, my God, yes. Yeah, that's great.

And I'm going to put them on. And what did she say? And she's, like, she thought they were pretty, but she kind of gave that weird face, you know, I guess since they were hers. And this is a, I don't know, this is where it doesn't get confusing, but so much exciting and disappointing at the same time, because she goes and buys me my own panties to wear. And she told me that I don't care what you wear just as long as you love me and all the good stuff.

I'm like, yes, definitely. And I asked her a couple times after that. Does it matter what I wear? Can I wear these right here? and a part of me wanted her to say, here, I want you to wear these panties. But you wanted her to be, like, not only okay with it,

but also kind of like turned on by it, right? Like you wanted her to be like into it. Yeah. Right? I wanted her to be into it with me. And that's where the wall hit and they were disappointing because... She wasn't.

She would let me wear them for sake of wearing him because of what I wanted and she wanted me to have what I wanted. Yeah. But she couldn't herself get into it and she's, we've had talks about it where she's like, I just can't get into her, he says. And I'm like, well, all right, then.

So you did say to her, like, eventually, like, can you at least, like, can you be into it? And she was like, no way. Yeah. She's like, I just don't find them attractive on you. And in the sense, I kind of crushed me because when I would wear them on on, on the down below, and no one else with me, I had them on. And I felt like I was strutting too much when I had them on. And to me, I would have them on.

To me, I felt sexy. Yeah. Just because I see them on women who I think are sexy. Mm-hmm. And cataloging and stuff like that. So I wanted to be sexy too. Mm-hmm. And when she said she don't find them sexy on me,

but you can learn if you want to if you like them. And it kind of crashed that whole penny fetish. And I was like, huh. For you? Weird. Yeah. And it wasn't the go-to there. wearing them

yeah okay and I lost interest in and wanting to wear them especially for her because I wanted to do it for her but she was into it so

it just kind of went back to where I would look at pennies and then find their another catalog of some sort and kind of dumps with those and they know those are pretty and and now it's kind of still

now it's in the download again you know. Because, so listen, I'm doing the math, right? You said 10 years into it, you told her. So it's been about five years that she knows. Yeah. And the whole time, like, she just was not into it. And so now you're doing more of the stuff again, like sort of on the down low,

because if you're doing it in front of her and she's not into it, it takes away the fun, right? It does, yeah. Mm-hmm. So when my six-star ramps up, again, then I'll pick from my favorite. Your ovulation.

My moon time. Whatever. Whatever you're used to move forward. No, but just so you know, because you're like, I don't get moody and stuff. Like, when a woman ovulates and when she gets her period are two different things, right? Women get horny when they get their period, too. But they get really horny when they ovulate.

And that's when they can get pregnant. And that's before their period. So they're not emotional at that time. They're just fucking horny. And it only happens for like one day, right? That's when the egg is dropping. And it's like nature, right? tells them go out and get fucked so you could have a baby.

You know, maybe your jizz is like super strong. Do you have kids? I got four of them. Oh, my God. Right. So your jizz is okay. So I'm sure it's working on other days more than just that one day. But it's interesting that you have this weird cycle with your hormones where you get like really horny once a month.

Is that weird? I mean, I'm sure you're horny regularly all the time, right? But there's just that one day that even more. Yeah. It's not like one day. It's like a week time. So a week, it just kind of ramps up and it trickle down and then something sparks it again. It kind of rams back up.

But is it only once a month or could it happen at any time? Like maybe it's because I'm just like wondering what it's attached to. Like is it a hormone thing? Is it a stress thing? And then you get really horny. Like, you know, or is it like once a month for a week like you get horny? Kind of like, you know, every month. That I don't know.

I mean, that I thought about it with. I thought about tracking it. Yeah. I get lazy and I don't track it. It just all of a sudden I'm having a regular day being a regular, 20-de-summerty guy that I guess most guys are. Yeah. And, you know, looking at women and stuff like that,

and something will happen where I'll see, like, a lady wearing some, I love yoga pants, the lady wearing your pants. Yeah. And she bent over and you could see her panties through her yoga pants. Yeah. And it kind of starts from men. I start looking at women and looking at penny lines

and trying to get some kind of panties they have. Do you like, let me ask you, when you look at panty lines, are you like, like, is it a turnoff? Because I was once at the gym with a girlfriend of mine and she was like bent over and she was wearing like big granny panties. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me. Like, well, how could you walk around panty lines that are like big granny panties? Like I, first of all, panty lines are terrible to begin with, but I know you're going to disagree with me. But second of all, if you wear panty lines and they're like big, like, the shape of big granny panties. Like, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I was like, don't ever wear these panties again. We're G-string. Like, that's it. You know what I mean? Like, it's unacceptable. But for somebody like you that's into, like, you know, bikini briefs and all different kinds, and you're, like, sort of like a panty connoisseur, do you like to see panty lines of all kinds of stuff? I would say yes.

In the context that in the last couple years were how it changed for me is that when I go see different women and I see the panty lines, and I guess like a red word with me being some sort of a penny connoisseur I'm wondering what color they are are they full lace in the back

are they full lace all around are they satin but I can see the lines I can kind of tell the cuts whether it's a breed or a boy short or whatever right there was a guy you'll sound like my bra guy

there was a bra guy I know think it was the same thing right it was the same exact thing exactly and after listening that one I was like well I guess

I'm not that dear too, because he has fascination of bras. You know what I wish that I would have? In factational tennis. Yes, but it's the same thing. Like, he wanted, like, the whole thought process and everything that went into it, like, that was like the foreplay of it, right? It was, like, all that stuff was, like, so interesting. I'm sure there's somebody out there that's, like, a professional that knows, like,

how the brain works and stuff like that. knows like why a certain kind of person would sort of have that kind of fetish and think that way. Like it must be like something about like you, right? That I can't explain it, you know, but I wish I knew, because like I said, I'm not a professional. I don't know. I wish I knew like sort of the reasons for it, you know? Yeah. Because it is.

The only thing I could think of is that through my adventure and through my research, the research I've seen and the things that common interest is that I think that I'd call it. said that when us males, when we were trying to into a dolphin, we hit through that through puberty. Yeah. Little things, or legs or boobs or whatever, that, and that becomes sexual interest. And I really think that if you run with it, meaning like you jerk off constantly to it, and that's like your first, like, jerking off. You know what I mean? You create that sort of thing and you're right.

Yeah, you reinforce it. Yeah, you reinforce it. It's like, that's the way you learn. That's the way you get it. addicted to smoking. That's the way, right? You smoke a cigarette. It doesn't taste fucking good, but you keep doing it. And after a while, you build this sort of thing in your mind. And the only way to sort of cut that out is to like just deny yourself that, you know, and eventually that could go away, right? So maybe what happens is like for these young guys, like you said, right? That's what,

it's like because your sister brought those panties to you that day. And that was the first time you got that kind of rush. And then that's what you, then someone taught you how to jerk off. but then you jerk it off to that, and you just reinforced that, right? That sort of specific thing. And then it became a quote, unquote, fetish, right? Yep. And now...

That's kind of how... Go on. That's how I believe a lot of fetches start, you know, in adolescence, and then they just hung into it and they chase that dragon until they find, either have a medium or they continue chasing it. Yeah, well, it's interesting that you took, like, the sort of dressing up thing

as far as you could and then that was over, right? And then because once you realize you could, once you start doing that with your girlfriend's, right, and sort of projecting that thing onto them, like that was what it was about, right? And that was cool. Have you now that it's on the down low, like, I mean, have you ever tried any other things on

since you were a kid or is that totally dead in the water? I still try things on. But again, it's like trying to get my wife to buy, like the thigh hires or if she, like my birthday just passed and she bought opaque thigh hires all black and the black little nighty thingy. Uh-huh.

And we had a good time in them. Well, she had a, yeah, we had a good time in them, but I didn't wear them. She did. And then, uh, but you want to wear them. They had her a good time. Right. And I wanted to wear it just to try them on.

Mm-hmm. And so when I had my chance, yes, I put them on just to feel. And I'm like, oh, they're really nice. Then I look at myself in the end. Like, wow. I don't have a body for this stuff. You didn't look as good as her in it

Exactly But you like the way it felt I do I really like the way it felt Right But you didn't do that in front of your girl right I mean she would really be horrified If you don't look good in them

Right I mean like you didn't do that in front of her right That was on the down level Yes And now does she know that you wear them out of the hat Like you said like you strut your stuff You walk around with them Nobody knows Like does she know that you would wear them

out of the house as well? Today, probably not. Unless she doesn't care. I mean, she told me she doesn't only care what I wear. Yeah. Don't go doing... But you do wear them, right? Mm-hmm.

Right. So... I don't do their leggings or like the teddy thing like that. Still just panties. Right, but I mean, like, because listen, I can't tell you how many times like you see girls bending over and you see their G-string.

I always feel like a self-conscious to make sure my G-string isn't showing unless I wanted to show it for someone. I don't know. You know what I mean? but like you know, right? I mean, like, you don't ever worry that, like, you're going to bend over and someone's going to see it.

Like, you know, if you're wearing them, like, do you wear them to work? Do you wear them all the time? Or is it just, like, during that week of your horniness? Right, that week of my horniness, or if I just have an inkling, like, you know what, I want to repent. I say, I want to go find some. I get caught.

Right. I don't worry too much about bumming over and flash to my guess or whatever I always have long shirts always tucked in so if you're a belt on that on stag You never get worried knock on with for like a car accident

You know what your mom used to teach you wear clean underwear because you could always get on a car accident I mean like you know No No the only I booked me that as a big dinner car accident I wasn't wearing panties, though, but my underwear wasn't clean, but got an accident. They had to strip everything down, and they stripped it down so fast that they couldn't even see what

was going on. Oh, but so you did get at a car accident, a bad car accident once? Mm-hmm. Oh, wow. But you weren't wearing panties? No, I know. Oh, okay. But they're not, they don't care.

They're professional. You know, I'm giving everybody the common decency that. I just happen to be wearing something and they didn't over and they just haven't be peeking out I doubt anyone's going to say anything you know. No but they but this is what I yeah I think we all think that people are professionals

but I think what we all forget is that professionals are human beings too so what you don't think is that because we try to just because like I think of this like with my gynecologist but I always go back to like my guy friends and I'm like you know when my gynaecologist like puts his finger up my ass and he's saying like weird things to me like

is there a way because he's a guy that he's getting horny or like because but women think no he's being he's a professional he's not thinking and my friend's like yes it doesn't matter he's a quote unquote professional like guy's a guy so all I'm saying is like if you do get in a car accident again and you're wearing panties right and you're okay right you didn't die or anything like they might go home and tell somebody like oh this guy and he was like wearing panties like they might it might they might take notice of it even though they're being professional in the moment that's you know what I mean don't you think yeah

I think so and I'm pretty sure in that situation they've seen everything Right that's what I think is interesting You know you just don't know I mean I just want to be assholes and come back and tease me about them No they would never That would be

Whatever you know No that would be I'm constantly myself that That would be unprofessional I feel like a worm and And if they see them they see them It's not It's not

But I'm securing myself to where I'm not going to like go down a street in a plate wearing them because I just found my thing. Mm-hmm. But if I just happen to be caught with them, I'm like, if you got me, now what, you know? Right, right, right. That's cool.

No, my mind just thinks of weird things, you know? I'm always like, what if this or that? Like, I, you know, but anyway. So have you found forms and stuff like that to go, like, communicate online with, like, other guys? Because I know, like, you were looking at my podcast to see if there was any other guys that were, like, into panties like you are. I don't think I have had one on.

You're the first. Have you found, like, because you said you've done Googling for these other things, right? Have you Googled and found, like, other guys like you? Was that important? And did you find that? Um, I haven't really tried just because it doesn't interest me what other guys are wearing. I guess this whole, my whole thing is wearing, but like that they, no, no, no, I don't mean, like, you're looking to see. Like, I'm saying, like, you know, because you have this fetish, right?

and like, you know, I think you said something about me. I'm looking for insurance type stuff. No, yeah, just to find out what it's about or are there other people that are into it, like you said. Like, you know, just to know that you're not the only one. That's it. Not about you being into guys that are doing it.

Not a sexual thing. More like a curious thing to find out more about yourself. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's what we stumble across your podcast. Right. So every now and then, you know, I ramp up or whatever. and I go out, I don't go out looking physically, I'll look the word and for different things like the podcast or web pages.

And what I look for is not just guys who want to cross-dress and be porn about it, you know, because I could find all this stuff on, like, Tumblr or something. But I look for people that are like me, I guess, because I want to be in that club where we're all the same. but we don't talk about it. But like a guy would wear panties and maybe he wears them all the time and that's all he wears because he'll see blogs like that. Yeah.

And for people that just wear it like for sexual. When they're having sex. Yeah. Yeah, everyone's different. That's why I was like I could have like eight panty hose guys and they're all totally different. That's one of my like the biggest fetishes. I'm curious to see how many emails I get. you know, to see how popular the panty fetish is.

I'll be able to look at the analytics of that one. The panty hose thing is so widespread. I used to, when Craigslist existed, I used to tell people, like, when I would go on looking for people, I would see millions of panty hose ads. I don't remember so much the panties thing. I'm wondering, and then when I would air my panty hose ones, I get so many emails from people into panty hose,

and I have so many more guys into it, right? And I had so many different guys on so many different variations of it. So I'm curious to see how the panty hose. anything goes, right? Because listen, if there's you, right, there's got to be thousands and thousands of people that are into it like you are, you know? We'll see. I'm sure there is.

I just want to hear other people's stories on their take on penny footage, you know. Right, because you know yours, but you're curious to hear other people's. Okay, well, let's put a shout out. If anybody else wants to call in and talk about their Panyho's thing. This Panyho's sniffing thing I've had before, but I haven't had, uh, this one. So if you like to wear them, even if it crosses into other things, right, it'd be interesting.

Or write in even, because like, I have to tell you, I've put people in contact with other people and they've talked and like, you know, whatever, I don't know. But we'll see if we'll get more people on and then you'll be able to listen to their stories, but now we know your story. Your wife has never busted you, right?

We'll leave it at that. Like, you're okay. Like, now you're doing it on the down low. I mean, it's not like she'd find anything. and it's not even like, it's more on the download like you do it because you don't, she's not into it, right? But it's not like on the download because if she knew you were doing it, she wouldn't, she's not into it. Like you could do it.

You just don't do it with her. She's not, it's so it's more so like she's just not involved in it. But it's not like you could get caught and you could get in trouble. Exactly. Because I guess if you put it in a realistic perspective, she probably knows when I ran buff. when I'm wearing her panties, but again, she told me she doesn't care what I wear as long as I don't do stupid shit.

Right, right. Well, that's cool. And now chasing... I wasn't part of it. She didn't know. Right. But as far as chasing the dragon, do you feel like, because you've got four kids and you're older now, like, you don't have time to go, like, getting deeper into it and, like, are you just okay with doing what you do? I mean, do you have the sort of feeling that you're going to want to go into other things more, or do you feel like you have it pretty much under control? I'm not to have it under control in the sense that those questions are the part of me that wants to go deeper

and I'm not sure what considers deeper other than wearing them all the time or buy my own yeah stuff like that buying your own stealing that like you know taking pictures of girls you know crossing lines I think that's where you don't want to go really but some people start to go there right if it's like pretty repressed.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like when I, when I start something up, or even when I'm not even having, I'll watch girls and I try not to be creepy. I don't try not to stare. Right. I remember visual in that because I don't want to be,

that guy sitting in the park watching girls creepily. Right, but you do it on the down low and you get your looks in and then you use what you see for later, right? Yeah. Is that crazy? Imagine being a girl. Like, we have to wonder how. many guys that we see walking around

and the daytime, and I live in New York City. Like, how many guys go home and jerk off to me? Like, it's so weird to think of, right? I mean, guys don't think like that, because you're using the girls, you know? But, like, as a woman, it's, like, so weird, you know, to think of, like, that you're, like, you don't even know this person,

that you didn't even know they probably looked at you, but, you know, just so many hours later, they're, like, jerking off to the vision of you. It's interesting. It's just the way that it goes, right? that weird you out? No, it's interesting to think of.

I mean, I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it. And most guys, listen, I think most guys, you know, aren't letterous about sort of checking you out and stuff like that, you know, I have a lot of guy friends. So they tell me these things. They'll be like, Kathy, listen, like I could look across the street and see like a girl's, like, skirt blow off, blow up a little bit in the wind and I catch her leg and, like, I go home and jerk off to that. Like, this is the things that guys tell me.

So this is how I know these things. Does it weird me out? No, but it's so interesting for me to think about it. I think if I thought about it a lot when I was walking around looking at the people, I would, you know, it would weird me up. But no, it's not that, it's just the way that it is. You know what I mean? I don't think it's a right or wrong thing.

It's just interesting, right? Like, guys don't realize what it's like to be a woman that you're walking around, right? And like, guys are doing all this stuff. But this is like the real things. And this is like how guys, like, kind of are. They're very visual, right? and girls are walking around like hot pieces of ass, right? It's like, what can you do?

You know, even if they're not, like, they don't think that they're hot. Like, guys are looking at girls, right? They can't help it. It's just the way that it goes. So, no, it doesn't freak me out. It's just interesting and funny, you know. So, but anyway. So we're going to wrap this up.

I don't think, listen, you sound like really normal and fine. And I think what's really good, that keeps people from crossing, like, really bad boundaries and like, you know, pushing things to like a bad place is like when I personally think it's when they really repressed stuff and they keep it really secret and they don't, you know, and then it turns into like this really naughty thing and then that becomes like really hot and then they've got to be naughtier and naughtier. I think because your wife knows and it's out in the open and you had the balls to tell her and like, you know, I think that that's like a good thing and I think that that helps you keep it under wraps. You know what I mean? It's just like a cool fetish that

you have, right? Why not? And I'll keep you posted if I get any people emailing me. So any other panty hos, panty guys, I keep saying pantyhows that wants to write in. We'll do another one. But you're my first. So thanks for calling in, Paolo. No problem. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook.

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