Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 230 - Chase Cheats on his Girlfriend with Guys

Episode Date: May 7, 2018

Chase has been dating a the same girl for a couple of years and even though she knows he once had an "encounter" with a guy, she doesn't know he's been fooling around with them behind her back the who...le time. When did Chase have his first bisexual experience? How often does he hook up with guys behind her back? Why does he want to come clean now? Tune on to find out plus hear all about the hot sex between him and his step fathers best friend, the sex he had with his best friend while their girlfriends were sleeping and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Strictly Anonymous on the Riotcast network, riotcast.com. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
Starting point is 00:00:22 The temptation is just too much. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your Greek flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to strictly anonymous podcast to Kathy.
Starting point is 00:00:42 If you want to follow the strictly anonymous podcast and Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous or follow me at Cartoon Therapy. If you want to be on the Strictly Anonymous podcast, this is a call and advice show where I like to help people with their problems. Sometimes I'm not helping someone with a problem. I'm just sitting there listening to stories about someone's secret life or their naughty life or their interesting life. So if you have a problem or a secret life or an interesting life or a naughty life and you want to call into this show and remain anonymous, send an email to strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com or go to strictly anonymouspodcast.com and click on be on the show. You could read a book that I wrote if you want to find out more about me. I talk about other people on the show, but if you listen all the time and you're like,
Starting point is 00:01:26 about her. What's her fucking deal? If you want to hear my deal, I hear all about my deal with my relationships and a lot of information about what I do in regards to SEX, you can buy my book. It's a cartoon book. It's called, you'll see what it's called on my website. Go to Stricklandon on This Podcast.com and click on Buy the Book. You can buy my book and read it. It's like a really easy chapter book. Like you could just read any chapter and get a story. I think I've been eventually going to put the cartoons on my website and just give them out because they're good. Like I might do like a monthly cartoon or something like that. Anyway, today I have on a guy named Chase, I think is his name. Oh my God. It's like so hard for me to remember fake names, real names,
Starting point is 00:02:11 real fake names, you know, whatever. I think his name is Chase. And he wrote in that he was like a panty guy too, right? But that he also had this whole other thing where he was by and his girlfriend kind of knew, but he was going to move in with her, and he felt like if he moved in with her, the whole bi thing was going to get even more hardcore, and he didn't know what you do, and I was thinking maybe he was calling him for advice, I didn't really know. Then we got him the fun and we discussed it all. We don't get really that much into the panty thing. We probably will in another call, because he's going to call back in and give an update,
Starting point is 00:02:44 because on this call, we talk mostly about his bisexual experiences, like how, his first experience, what went down involved forts and another guy and a very young age many, many years ago. There was a fort and another guy in him, and there was an encounter. We talk about all the stuff that he does behind his girlfriend's back. We talk about the stuff that his girlfriend knows about, and we talk about why he hasn't told her the full story. And we find out what the full story is. He tells us first before he tells his girlfriend of three years.
Starting point is 00:03:19 That's what my show is all about. it's a place where people could unload their stuff first before they go and unload to the other person. He eventually did talk to the girl, and I already know that there's an update there. So I will have him back on. We'll get the update on what went down with her and what happened when he revealed all of the details
Starting point is 00:03:37 about his bisexuality. And we'll hear more about his panty fetish, but in this one, like I said, we talk mostly about his interest in, you know, guys. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Chase, if that's his name Chase. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show?
Starting point is 00:04:05 Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Hey, Chase, welcome to Strictly Notas podcast with Kathy. How are you doing today? Pretty good. I'm good. So you're another person who wrote into the show.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Everyone writes into the show now because there's no more Craigslist, which is great for me because I don't have to do any work, really, to get guests, right? And I don't know if you just started listening because I just had a panty guy on because it turns out that you also have a panty fetish too, but you also have this whole other thing going on, which is that you, your panty hose, like, is a long time. thing and then you kind of became bisexual and the girl that you're with kind of knows about some of it but not all of it and now you're being like sort of pressured into like moving in with her and you're a little nervous that for some reason I don't know why you're going to have to explain
Starting point is 00:05:04 this to me that if you do move in with her or if you stay with her for a while I don't know if you're in with her now that the whole bisexual thing might turn into being more of a gay thing right is that what you said is my correct no no I was just saying the whole bisexual thing I don't know if she will accept that, and I don't know, I'll probably have to start sneaking around. Right, but didn't you say it might turn more gay? That's what you... I got to read you. It said, worried my bisexual side may become more gay than straight if we move in together,
Starting point is 00:05:38 meaning what does that mean? I don't know, maybe... What does that mean? And also, this is funny, you're like straight... I don't know, you're like very straight jock. Well, okay, I'm going to read your, I'm going to read your email because it's short and it really explains it well. Very straight jock with longtime panting fetish that turned bisexual. I have a long time girlfriend that knows a small amount of my many gay sex encounters.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Pressure to move in with my girlfriend, but not sure how to tell her about my desires. Worried my bisexual side may become more gay than straight if we move in together. I would love to talk to you about my situation. So what I get from that, I was thinking like, so I guess what you're trying to say more so is that like, if, you move in with her, you'll have to have so many more gay encounters behind her back, right? Because you don't want her to know fully about how much you're into it, right? Because she only knows a little bit. What does she know?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Well, she knows that I had sex with one guy before, but. Like full-on sex? Like, he fucked you in the ass or you fucked him in the ass? Like, what do you have sex? Yeah, he fucked me in the ass. But that was my first time taking it in the ass. and it didn't go over so well. Well, we'll get into that.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I told her it wasn't much, so that's pretty much all she knows. And I've been not hooking up with a couple other guys since then that she does not know about. But wait a second. So first of all, how long have you been going out with your girl? I've been dating her for three years. How old are you? 25. Yeah, you sound young.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And when was your first gay experience? Like, did it happen while you were dating her? Did it happen way before you were with her? Well, I mean, me and my friend fooled around way back in the day. Like, what do you mean? Like, in fourth grade or eighth grade or fourth grade? I'd say we were probably 13 or 14. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:39 How far did that go? We kind of, we built a fort. And we were just hanging out in there. And, uh, wait a second. What grade? Wait, what grade is 14, 13, 7? Like, 9th? I couldn't tell you.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Right. Maybe 9th grade. Okay. Actually, I think it might have been like 6 or 7th. I was going to say, I don't think you're building forts in 9th grade. It's like younger, right? So 6 or 7. So you guys are building a fort together.
Starting point is 00:08:07 You and your like best friend. Yeah. And, uh, he was kind of joking around and you kept grabbing my balls and my dick. And I was kind of surprised because I didn't expect it at all. And I started to get hard. And he was just giving me a hand job and then rolled over and I gave him a handjob. And I sucked his dick a little bit. But all that went to and we never talked about again until a couple months ago.
Starting point is 00:08:46 we ended up hooking up again. You and that same guy from six or seventh grade? Yeah. Wait a second. Yeah, that is kind of crazy. So after it happened, did like, when you jerked him over or when he jerked you up, did you guys come like in front of each other? No, we did not.
Starting point is 00:09:02 We didn't even come. I mean, it was kind of a, I don't know, we kind of were nervous. I sucked his dick for like 10 seconds. And I don't know, he kind of rolled over and I don't know. It got weird. Right. And then you never talked. about but you stayed friends.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, stayed friends forever. We've been best friends forever. And you never brought it up? Never ever brought it up. Interesting. And then how did you wind up hooking up again recently? Well, we were super drunk at his house one night, and both of our girlfriends were there, and they went to sleep, and it was like four in the morning or something.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And he, I don't know what happened. Oh, I was changing. and he saw me in my thong. He's like, you weren't a thong? And I was like, yeah, he's like, let me see it. I was like, sure, you want to see it? And he's like, yeah. He's like, oh, my God, you got a great ass.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And I was just like, I told him, I was like, why don't you feel it then? So he ended up fucking me in the ass while our girlfriends were sleeping in the other room. Oh, my God. This is really good. Wait a second. Is this the one that she knows about? No way, you told her about this experience. This just happened with that guy,
Starting point is 00:10:20 and he fucked you in the ass. Did you use a condom? Yeah, he did. He used... Snuck in his room and grabbed a condom. And the girlfriends were sleeping. Yeah, and he fucked me on the couch. Was it good?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Oh, it was great. A lot better than we were 13. Right, and then did you guys... How long ago did that happen? This was probably a month or two ago. And have you talked about it since, or do you think it's going to be one of those things like the Fort experience? Like you guys will never talk about it again, maybe 20 years from now. You'll just something else?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Well, actually, when was it? Not last week and two weekends ago. We were over there and we ended up again. When the girlfriends were around? No, once they went to sleep. And we talked about it a little bit after. We were thinking about trying to get our girlfriends to join in. and um well does his girl know okay cool so so wait so you go over there again the girlfriends go to sleep
Starting point is 00:11:21 you guys have sex again yeah because we stay up yeah you stay up later but are you the bottom and he's the top or did you like fuck him okay so he's you're a bottom he's the he's the top so this you did the same thing again while the girlfriends were sleeping and this time you discussed it does his girlfriend know about anything that he's done with guys i mean has he been fooling around what guys too? Are you the only one? Do you know about his experience? I haven't really talked to him about that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:47 But I don't believe so, not that I've heard. He's been dating his girlfriend for eight years. Yeah, but so have you. And we're going to talk about all this very stuff that you've done. So, I mean, how do you know what I mean? Look at what you've been doing. And I don't think, like, somebody that's fooling around with a guy while his girlfriend is sleeping is a guy that's, like, inexperienced.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Do you know what I mean? Most like that you know what I'm? I'm saying. He's probably doing shit behind her back, too. Does she, do you guys think that you could actually get your girlfriends to be in on it? I don't know. That's where we're trying to discuss that. Because I don't see it happening.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Neither does he really. We're just kind of open, actually. But when you told your girlfriend, okay, did you tell her this was an experience? Like, what experience, was this your first experience with a guy that you told her about? Like, how old were you when that happened? where you had sex with the guy and it was terrible. I had just graduated high school, I think. I mean, since I sucked my friend's dick when I was 13,
Starting point is 00:12:54 I hadn't hooked up with any guys since then. I was completely all girls throughout high school. Once I graduated high school, I got on a grinder. It was a year after high school, I think, and ended up meeting up with some guy. and had terrible sucks. Right. That was your first time.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah. How come it was so terrible? Because we tried to do it without lube, and that did not work out well. He tried to spit on my asshole, and nothing. It did not work. So he couldn't get it in? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And were you turned on? Were you attracted to him? At first, I was totally turned off. off by it. But after a while, a couple days after, I was like, I need to try this. So I went and bought some toys from the lover's lane. Which is a, like a sex toy store by you, I'm assuming. Right. Okay. Yeah. I ended up getting a dildo and started practicing with that. And that went well. And I wanted to try it again, but wasn't having any luck with hook. up with you guys.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Until this is a crazy story. I like your stories. They're all kind of crazy if you ask me. This one's insane. This seems like it should be a porno. Okay. But yeah, so I'm into wearing
Starting point is 00:14:28 like thong underwear and whatnot. Right, that's where I forgot about the whole panty fetters. I was going to say before like what kind of fucking thong are like you European? Like I don't know any guys that were. But I guess I forgot. like into panties, right? So that's why you were wearing a thong. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah. So my parents were out of town and I went laid out by the pool. The pool that's like really fenced and blocked off. I laid out there in a thong and was tanning. Daytime, night time, well daytime, right? Because you're tanning. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:01 And my stepdad's best friend came over out of nowhere to come. Oh, my God. This is like, oh. a porn fantasy in the making. That's what I'm saying. Wait, okay. We should have filmed it. Yeah, yeah, wait.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Your stepdad's friend. Okay, how old is your stepdad? How old is this guy and how old are you at the time? I think he was 40. Okay. And I was 20 or 21. Oh my God. Okay, so the guy comes over.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And that was your stepdad around or no, he's looking for your stepdad. No, they were out of town. They were out of town. Right, right, okay. Sorry. Out of 13 and whatnot. And, uh, I got freaked out and tried running inside, but he was like, he's like, dude, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:15:45 He's like, whatever. He's like, I think it's kind of hot, to be honest with you. Oh, my God. Because I never thought him like that. Because you knew this guy before? Yeah, oh, yeah. Interesting. You knew his family.
Starting point is 00:16:00 He's married, I'm assuming. Uh-huh. Okay. And he just sat down at the pool next to me and kept on talking about how nice my ass. was. Oh my God. Wait. Was he hot?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Like, is he a good looking guy? Oh, super hot. So, like, really attractive. Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah, very good-looking 40-year-old. Okay. And, uh, I don't know, we kind of got in the pool and just swam around and ended up, uh, sucking
Starting point is 00:16:27 his dick in the pool on the side of the steps. Mm-hmm. And then, uh, he, uh, ended up eating my ass and fucking me. on the side of the pool. So you guys just went to town on each other in this. Oh yeah, for a while. In your parents' place, while they're away.
Starting point is 00:16:51 This is your father's friend. Totally crazy. Yeah, it was super hot. I can imagine. Because everything about that is naughty, naughty, naughty. Noddy, naughty. Do you know what I mean? For him, too, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah. and he had a super nice dick and Meaning like what? What do you like like as a really big? Well yeah it was pretty big not too thick Right so perfect size Eight and a half I don't know
Starting point is 00:17:21 Mm-hmm But this time I was ready and we had lube So who had the lube? I ran inside and got it Okay so you had it right from all your toys And all you're playing with yourself Yeah now do you know this guy like to do was that the only time you did it with him?
Starting point is 00:17:40 He actually ended up moving out of town right after. But he came back and visited once. Right. And we tried hooking up. It was at like some party and it was up in the dark, but we got interrupted. So nothing ever ended up happening. What do you mean like a family party? Yeah, it was like a bombfire and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And who interrupted you? Well, we snuck around the side of the house and somebody was coming up to go around to their car or something and I was on my knees. Oh my God. Do they catch you? No, not really. I kind of jumped up and we walked away. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So you tried to do it with him while his wife and kids were around the corner and you. His wife and kids weren't there. His wife and kids were at home. Can you believe the stuff that people do behind people's box? I just can't. I believe it, but I can't believe it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Because like, look, I was happy with it. Yeah, I'm sure you. were but like think about like all the people that are in the dark about this shit like your your stepfather doesn't know that his friend fucked his son is that guy's what you know like it's just so fascinating so anyway yeah so that was your first experience with that guy now did you were you ever confused because like of all this hooking up with guys i mean you were hooking up with girls right so you knew you were into girls too so like i was way more into girls i just i would rather fuck a guy and date a girl.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Right. So you were... I really like bottoming, so. So you felt like you're bisexual. Like, I mean, was this confusing to you that you had this sort of thing with guys? Like, were you totally fine with it? Like... At the beginning, I kind of was weirded out by it. But lately, it's just been getting better and better.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So... What do you mean better and better? Like more action and more enjoyable? Yeah. and just wanting to do it more often, wanting to fuck a guy all the time. Right, but is that why you, is that why you say, like, you're worried
Starting point is 00:19:44 that, like, now if you live with your girlfriend, it might turn more and more. Because it's getting more and more. Is it because you live with her already? I was confused as whether... No, I do not live with her right now, so... Right. Now, where do you fuck all these guys,
Starting point is 00:19:57 and where do you have all this action, considering you're dating somebody for all these years, like, and, like, where does this... Well, I mean, I live 25 minutes away from my girlfriend. Right. So I just on a grinder and meet up with the guys. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So now if you live with her, you're going to have to do a lot of lying. Yeah. And now, right. Do you cheat on her with girls behind her back or just guys? Just guys. Okay. Which I feel like she would be, I mean, when I told her about the one guy that had sex was, she was fine with it. She was.
Starting point is 00:20:30 But, I mean, she was fine with it, but she didn't like it. Well, would it, how did it come up? And what did you actually say to her? I was really drunk and I answered. Yeah, that's how it always happens. Yeah. What did you say? Oh, by the way, I had an experience with a guy, but it was terrible and I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Like, how did you position it? I think that's exactly how I can't really remember, but she just asked me what, what happened and what I did. And I just told her some of the details. Mm-hmm. And you, but did you tell her that, like, you, like, sought it out, like, that you, like, went looking for it? Or like, you know what I mean? Because like if I, I don't know. Yeah, I told her, I told her I got on, I think I met him on Tinder, actually.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Right. Yeah, I told her I downloaded Tinder. So she didn't have like a clue that this was like something probably that could happen again, considering that you like went on there and had this curiosity and most likely it wouldn't stay a one-time thing. I mean, that's at least how my mind would work. She was okay with just thinking that that was a one-time deal? Um, I mean, I'm sure. I mean, she knows I'm bisexual.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Oh, so she knows your, she knows your bisexual? Yeah. So when did you tell her that? Um, I think probably a month or two before I told her about the guy. Okay, so how far into your relationship were you before you told her that? Probably a year, year and a half. That's smart because she like really liked you at that point. So she can't, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's better than telling somebody right in the beginning, right? So she's in love with you. She's committed to this relationship. And you're like, oh, by the way, I'm bisexual. And what did she say to that? She just freaked out because she thought I was telling her that that was gay. Right. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah. Yeah. But I told her that I was still interested in girls, too. Now, why did you tell her that? Was that another drunk experience? Yeah, and I kind of wanted her to know. I don't know. I feel like every time I get drunk, stuff comes out like that.
Starting point is 00:22:33 No, I think, listen, I think it's great to be honest, right? and the fact that she was okay with it. I think that you're like, you know, so ahead of most people, you know. That's why it's like hard to understand why you do all the stuff behind her back if she already knows, right? I mean, like she's known that you're by for a while. What does she think you do with your bisexual side now that you're with her? Did you, is the problem that you told her I'm by, but I don't see guys. Like, I mean, because like, what are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Like, I've been fooling around with guys behind your back. You can't really say that, right? No, no. that's what I don't know what she thinks. I mean, well, she doesn't ask questions? No,
Starting point is 00:23:12 I mean, sometimes she'll ask, but like, I'm assuming she just doesn't think I'm cheating on her. Right, but what does she ask when she does ask? Well, sometimes she always freaks out.
Starting point is 00:23:26 She's like, are you gay? Like, if I don't give her enough attention or whatnot. Yeah, yeah, well, because she knows your buy,
Starting point is 00:23:31 right? So then she's going to always, if she feels a slight insecurity in the relationship, she's automatically going to go to that, right? And you have to, like, talk her down from that. Yeah. Right. And if she knew you were fooling around with guys, that might be even worse.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah, definitely. Right. And so when... So I don't think I'm going to tell her about that. Yeah, but how do you think you're going to get her to hook up with you and your friend? I'm going to try to ask her if she wants to have an open relationship or have a threesome with another guy. Okay. So you're going to wait till you're drunk to say that?
Starting point is 00:24:07 No, obviously, I'm going to talk to her about it, but. Well, listen, the most... Well, okay, because when you move in with her, this is what's going to happen. Like, you're going to have to, like, you live a little bit of a double life now, right? How many times do you, like, how many guys are you banging behind her back, do you suppose, in the past three years? I mean, I'm not, like, just banging guys. Oh, the last few years? Yeah, you've been with her three years, you said.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Like, how many guys do you think you've been with since? I've probably only been with three guys, but A lot, multiple times. So you have, okay, so you've done the guy thing. What do you think you average it? Once a month, once every couple months, two times a year? Probably twice, twice a month, three times a month sometimes. Okay, that's kind of a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. Okay, if you really... I mean, but it's not like it's, I don't know, we... You know, this guy hang out, play video games, and I end up sucking him off while he's playing video games and then he probably he fucks me after but i mean three times a month this is what i'm trying getting at right so like if you so you move in with her right now that you live like 25 minutes away you do live a double life that's a pretty hardcore double life it's not like once in a blue moot like once a year you fool around with a guy right
Starting point is 00:25:26 fooling around with like the same person like three times month okay every month that's kind a lot to be like having something that she doesn't know about completely behind her back. That is like living a serious double life, right? It's easy to get away with that life when you live 25 minutes away and you're doing it like with the same person, right? You're kind of safe about it, right? You're not like all over the place and with a different fucking guy all the time on Tinder with your face, right?
Starting point is 00:25:54 But when you move in with her, it's going to be a whole different ball game. You're going to have to be like super liar, you know, in one. lie leads to 10,000. Well, no, I'm just going to have to tell her that something's going to have to change. Right. And is that what you, I mean, are you planning on doing that before we even spoke? Like, I mean, you know that you're going to tell her before you. What are you going to say to her, though?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Because she can't know that you've been fooling around with guys, right? What are you going to say? Well, what are you going to say? I want to start fooling around with guys. I have the urge. Like, how are you going to say it? Maybe I can help you, but like, what are you going to say? You have to position it the right way.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I'm just going to ask her if she would be okay. with me fooling around with other guys. And she's mentioned that she's been interested in other girls. Okay, that's good. Has she ever fooled around with other girls or no? That's just like a part of something. No, we've talked about it. And she said she would do it, but she's not really too interested in it.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But she would be open to trying it. Yeah. Yeah, so that's good. I think it was the right girl. Yeah, you should bring it up like that and then be like, how would you feel about me like being with a guy? Yeah. And you want to have an open relationship with her?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even mind if she joined me and the other guy, you know? No, I'm sure you would love that, right? Because you're very by, right? You're really a super attracted to her. And you're attracted to guys, right? Yeah. So that would be the ultimate. And that, the other guy that you were recently with, that, like, I think, I,
Starting point is 00:27:33 think I asked this already, do you know if his girl knows about his being with guys? I mean, because your girl kind of knows a lot if you ask me. I mean, it's not like... Yeah, she does kind of, but she just doesn't know at all, especially with this recent hookup with this guy, one of my best friends. Listen, but... We see all the time. Yeah, yeah, that's major.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Not only that it's like your best friend that you see all the time. It's that you guys fucked twice already while they're asleep. I mean, God knows what you're going to be doing if you're, living with her like the shit that's going to be going down if you keep it under wraps when are you have you like do you guys have a place or is the is it just are you guys just like in talks about you moving in with her um she just bought a house and i have a job on the other side of the state so it would be a long drive for me to move in right now so i'm looking for a new job on the other side of the state to get me closer but so for right now it's not something that's going to
Starting point is 00:28:33 to happen right away. No. So that's good. So you have time. Yeah. So when you say in your email to me, like you're worried that it's going to become a more gay situation, quote unquote, you mean like it's just going to become a more secret situation if you move in with her.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that like you like it more and more, it's like. Yeah, it's becoming more and more enjoyable. And I'm wanting it more and more. So I don't know. Kind of worried about it. In what sense, worried about it?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Because you have to tell her. Is that what you mean worried about it? Or worried about it like that you might like it more than women? No, just that she will not be okay with it. And I'm going to have to do some sneaking around or completely not be able to do it anymore. Right, because it's so powerful in you that you're not going to stop doing it anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:29:31 if anything, you want to do it more. Yeah. Right. Which I think is, listen, I think like it's great that at 25 years old, you're like getting more clear about what it is that you're like and that you're into. It's pretty great. But I always see this, like I think, because I'm way older than you. And a lot of people I talk to you that are living like very secret lives are older than you because they grew up in a different time, you know? You live in a different world where it's like easier for people to say.
Starting point is 00:30:01 stuff like yeah you kind of said shit when you were drunk and stuff but people wouldn't even do that like 50 year olds wouldn't even do that shit like you could never all of it was so taboo that it's like it's it's it's great that you've done as much as you have already you know yeah yeah and it's just becoming more i don't know i just if somebody asked me i'm not gonna lie and tell them no right that's great and i think it's so great that people your age get to be so much more real about who they really are. You know what I mean? Because there's no shame attached to it, right?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Like back in the day, people couldn't admit shit like that. Like you and your time, right? Like you could admit that and like your girlfriend's not going to break up with you. Yeah, she might have her own insecurities and all that stuff. But it's not like she was like what the fuck and like ran away and dumped your ass, right? It's not like if you told your friends, they would never talk to you again, right? And it's great that you could be honest with yourself and say like, wow, I really am enjoying this more and more.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So, like, I'm not willing to keep this under wraps because you don't want to not sort of fulfill that part of you, right? And all those desires. I'm not really just not really embarrassed about it. Yeah, I think that's great. But you also love your girlfriend and want to stay in the relationship with her, right? I'm assuming? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah. And wouldn't it be so great if you could have both? And I think that what's happening nowadays is people are trying to or people are having different kinds of relationships where they can do those kind of things because I think the reason why relationships didn't work for people my age right I was never got married or anything like that but for most people that did and all the lot of people that call into my show the fucking messes they made out of their lives because they weren't sort of allowed to be who they were you know and the lives they damaged and the lies they told you know it's just so terrible right because
Starting point is 00:31:55 there was only one way to be like you either gay and everyone like kind of shunned you or you were straight and you had to be married to somebody and there was like nothing in between right now there's so much in between like you're contemplating like staying with your girlfriend right dating her but still seeing guys on the side and her you know being okay with that because that's what you want and it's great that like you could be clear about that and that that could be something that's on the table and something that's understandable because that if you're that way and that's what you want there's probably so many other people that are that way but I think just, you know, so many years ago, people just thought that that was like abnormal.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Exactly. And I noticed right around this age, more and more people have been experimenting more. And you can just tell that people are becoming more acceptable of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And it's, listen, I don't think that this shit didn't go down when I was growing up with guys. Okay. It totally went down. I definitely believe that guys were building forts. jerking each other off, you know, 30 years ago. And those people are still hooking up and doing all that stuff, but they could never tell their girlfriends, they could never tell their friends. They can, you know, none of that shit would ever go down.
Starting point is 00:33:13 No one could be honest about it because it was like taboo. So I don't think it's like happening more, but I think what's happening is that people are being more honest about it. And I think that's great. You're just lucky, you know, because most likely, this is what I think, because women are different than men, I personally think, I think women like stick with things and have hope for relationships more like, it's just like in their nature, right? Like, I don't know, it's like very hard for a girl to walk away from a guy that she's really into. Even if like some bad shit comes on
Starting point is 00:33:46 the table, right? Like women could just put up with a lot before they fucking leave. And like, I'm assuming you guys have a good relationship other than like all this fucking of guys behind her back, right? Like you guys are super compatible everything's cool with you guys yeah i don't i just don't know how she would deal with the way i'm getting fucked what do you mean with the way just like just getting my ass pounded and me sucking dick and swallowing come and whatnot i don't know i don't know if she knows that well right because she thinks like like right now this is what your girlfriend thinks she thinks oh my guy has fooled around with a guy and he hated it, right? He was curious about it. He tried it and he didn't like it, right? You said you were by, like, did, does she know that you, like, have had any
Starting point is 00:34:40 experiences that you actually liked it? I'm assuming she would know about some experience that you enjoyed, right? I mean, I'm, I think she just thinks that I love having sex, you know, like, I don't, I, but does she know you love having sex with guys? No, she does not because she only knows about one time that you didn't like. That's what I'm saying. That's where the problem comes in. First of all, one thing for sure is she can never know that you ever cheated on her with guys. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Because that's really bad. And that you have to, that you should be, because here I am sitting here talking about how honest you are and honest with yourself. But you're not being honest with her. And that's like a big problem right now in your relationship, right? That's not good to do. I don't know if you're looking like this girl could be the girl. you marry. I don't know if you give a shit about stuff like that or whatever,
Starting point is 00:35:31 but you're involved with her for three years, right? And you are living a double life, and it is kind of wrong, don't you think? Oh, definitely. And that's what I just don't know at this point in her relationship where it's going to go, you know, if she isn't accepting of my bisexuality. Well, don't you think that because you're at the place in your life
Starting point is 00:35:57 where it's so it's getting stronger and stronger and you're so into it and it's kind of like it seems like it's a deal breaker for you you like if she's not into it or someone wasn't into it you're not going to like not do it right you don't want to stop wanting it right you don't want to stop right so you know maybe it's you have to bring it up and if she's not cool with it then that's how you know and then you have to like go back to being single and find a girl that would be accepting of who you really are right don't you think that would be better yeah yeah that's what i'm trying to do that's what i'm trying to too. That's why I don't want to move in with her right away either because of these circumstances.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yeah, I think maybe that's smart. I think you should have these conversations before you move in with her because you don't want to like, you know, sort of move in like as one person and then just be like, oh, and by the way, I love getting my ass pounded by a guy and I want to swallow come in front of you. You know what I'm saying? Like all that shit you just said that she doesn't know because she might be like, what the fuck? like get out of my house like why do you move in here like because listen for girls and for people like when you if you move in with her like that's something everyone's going to know about and then she's going to have to tell everybody you left and it's good it's like it's actually just more damaging if you know you move in and so you really should try to cut the losses in case she does not in case she's not into it by having all these conversations and saying all this stuff before you get more serious because you know if she's not in interested, she could get out of a relationship with a guy that lives 25 minutes away easier
Starting point is 00:37:33 than a guy that has moved into her fucking house that she told everybody about, her family knows, you know what I mean? And then she's got to be like, oh yeah, I threw him out because he likes to suck dick. And like, how does she tell people, you know, it might be like horrifying for her. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, to your credit, you have told her that you're by. This is what's kind of confusing because it's like, if you tell me you're by, and then you also another time tell me you had an experience where you fuck someone but you didn't like it
Starting point is 00:38:01 but I would assume like if you're by then you do like guys it's not like you just said I had an experience with a guy once and I didn't like it that would be the end of the story you did tell her you're bisexual which means you're into guys so she knows you're into guys
Starting point is 00:38:14 she never questions you like what do you want to do with guys do you ever want to fool around with guys like I'm surprised like she doesn't ask you those questions because I would we don't really talk about it actually she doesn't ask because she probably doesn't want to know no because she asks when she's
Starting point is 00:38:30 insecure or when you're not giving her attention and I don't really want her to know so right but you have to let her know which is I think a good thing oh yeah I definitely will you don't want her to know unless you have to move in with her is that yeah and just
Starting point is 00:38:46 I don't know I don't want her to know everything about all the details and everything well she can't know about all the cheating because that would, she'll never be able to trust you. And let me ask you, like, if, like, if you told her, right, everything that, and she was totally into it, you would probably never cheat on her behind her back, right? Like, I mean, would you go to be?
Starting point is 00:39:07 No, not at all. Right. You're just doing it because this is your thing. And, yeah, I think you have to come clean with her, regardless of whether you move in or not, don't you think? Yeah, definitely not doing that. Yeah. Because what kind of relationship do you really have with somebody if you're completely
Starting point is 00:39:23 you know, you kind of dipped your toes into it like the couple times you were drunk, but you got to have the total balls to just completely clean. Not clean about what the shit you've been doing behind her back, but clean with the fact that you're really horny for guys and you want to get back into it. Yeah. And you could ease her into the pounding and the swallowing
Starting point is 00:39:46 all the stuff. Yeah. Do you mean? Yeah, I don't see, I don't even know if she knows, like, knows if I'm a bottom or a top or whatnot. Yeah, because you told her you didn't like it. You told her it was terrible experience. So, you know, the way she probably, because the way she probably looks at it
Starting point is 00:40:08 and filed it in her brain is like you're by, but you didn't like it when you experience a guy so you won't go full around with guys, right? That's the way she probably came to terms with it to go move on and be okay with it and not question you. Because I think if she really understood that you were really into guys
Starting point is 00:40:26 she'd probably want to know more or she'd be cool with it and you guys would have open conversations about it. The fact that it's never talked about it again I think is because she like put it to rest like it was like a done deal. Like yeah you're by but you had an experience with a guy
Starting point is 00:40:42 and it wasn't good. Right? Exactly. Yeah. And I mean with this whole fooling around with your friend while she's in the other room. I mean, you're having a really good time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And that's kind of the best part about it, though, is the kinkiness of it and this. That's, isn't that the fucked up thing about cheating and all that stuff? Like, I hear that all the time. And I know that because I've had, like, cheating sex. Like, I get it. Like, there's a part of the sort of naughtiness of it is the turn on, right? Like, but don't, but don't you think that if you had an open relationship, you'd still be able to keep some of that going anyway?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Oh, definitely. Right? That's where I want to get it to. Right, because isn't it worth it? Like, yeah, it might take away from a little bit of the naughtiness because she knows, but at least you don't have the lies that you're sort of keeping from her. Because, like, I don't know. It's kind of fucked up.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah, it is. Right? I got myself in a fucked up situation. Right. Imagine you found out from her that she was, you know, like, and you're protected, do you protect yourself? See, that's the thing. That's the way I. think though like I wouldn't care.
Starting point is 00:41:52 What do you mean? I found out that she was fooling around with another girl. But it's okay, but, but okay, you wouldn't care if she was doing it, but what about like all like the lies? What about the lies? Not so much the action of what she's actually doing, but what about the like, just the fact that she didn't tell you and she was like screwing like her friend while you were sleep? I don't know, maybe you just be turned on by it, right?
Starting point is 00:42:18 Guys are so different. Super turned on by it. Like if she was like, oh, by the way, when you and Joe fell asleep the other night, me and his girlfriend got it on, you'd be like, oh, my God, that's so fucking hot. Why'd you wake me up? Yeah. Do it again, well, I'll go to sleep, right? Right, I guess. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:37 But what if it was guys, if she was doing it with guys? I think for a girl, I think it's not so much, because I'm a girl. And the way I look at it is, like, it would be like the deception and the lying, you know, that is going. going, it's more about that, I think, than the fact, because you're not cheating on her girls, right? But I think a lot of the thing that would be devastating to her besides the fact that maybe she'd be devastated that you're that into guys, I don't know how she will feel. You know her, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But I think a big part of it, though, would be the lying and the deceit, you know, and all the sort of living a double life. I think that that's really hard for someone to take. I know you say you'd be into it. Yeah. But guys are different. I think she would look at it in a different way and be horrified. But of course you're not going to tell her about that.
Starting point is 00:43:29 But I mean, knowing her, how do you think she'd feel about you really come and clean about having an open relationship? Do you think she'd be into it? I don't know. I mean, I've talked to her about it before, like having threesomes and whatnot. She would say she would be down just to make me happy. But when you say threesomes, were they were guys or with girls? Either or. I've talked about both.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Uh-huh. She kind of, I mean, obviously she didn't want to have a threesome with another girl because she would get jealous or whatever if I touched the other girl. Right. And she said she'd be down for a threesome with another guy, but that really didn't go anywhere. But she said she would be down with it. Yeah. said she might be so I don't know she isn't too into it but would she did she know that that meant
Starting point is 00:44:25 that you'd be with the guy yeah okay so why don't you get why don't you see if you could talk her into being with you and your friends yeah I could do because you were just about to say but it's hard to find another guy but it's not now I mean you have that other friend that would be down for that right yeah but then he has that girlfriend right she wouldn't do it without that girl knowing because she knows the girl right yeah they're friends too do you think yeah they're pretty good friends oh god imagine they were getting it on too who knows how twisted this is but probably not more stuff that'd be awesome yeah right that would be perfect but most likely that's not going on um yeah so she she can't hook up with that guy I don't know
Starting point is 00:45:07 dude are you looking for advice for me no not really just kind of confessing because I didn't told anyone else about it. Yeah, it's so interesting. I mean, you have, like, first of all, that stepdad story is out of control. I know. Well, it's not the stepdad. I was just talking about a camera.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah, it's crazy, but, like, you know, I make jokes about this all the time because, like, I had a one gay friend and he would tell me, like, the stuff that goes down between gay guys, and I always be, like, if it happened in the straight world with women, it would be, like, fucking rape and shit.
Starting point is 00:45:37 You know what I mean? But, like, when a guy is after a guy, the stuff that happens, it's, like, so quick and so easy, and so whatever. you know, because guys are just very different about sex, right? Like, it's not very likely that a girl's laying out at a pool and somebody comes over and she'll just like fuck him without knowing it. You know, it's...
Starting point is 00:45:54 That kind of doesn't happen as much. Yeah, and I was super horny already when he showed up. And then he kind of went along with it. So it got me super horny. And I was just down for whatever. And, like, nobody knows except your friend that you're... And all the guys that you come with,
Starting point is 00:46:13 that you're by. besides, I mean, your girlfriend knows your vibe. Have you told anybody else? No. No. And now, because you said super straight jock. I mean, you're not straight, you're by, but do you mean like you really look? Right, you look really straight, right?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah. Yeah, those are like the football player guys, right? Yeah. And your friend, same way? Yeah. And that's that stepdad's friend, did he, would you like, would people have any, like, did you ever have any idea he was like by never no way right at all uh he's super rich right super manly acting uh-huh and that's what it just made it so much better yeah it's so crazy and you
Starting point is 00:47:03 know his wife and he has kids and shit it's like this is the stuff that really goes down it's so crazy like i you know i'm older now and i'm like on the playground with other couples and like when like I don't know, when people talk to me in different ways, I'm always like, are they looking for a three sub? Or like, I'm like, because now I know these things go down. I'm like, I read into everything. I'm always like, why is the husband asking for my phone number? His wife's not here.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Like, what are they inviting me over for drinks? Like, am I going for a three-sum? But I'm like, because I know that these things go on. Like one day my one girlfriend's like, oh, my husband was talking about like how great your ass is. And I'm like, why is she telling me like what her husband thinks about my ass? I'm like, are they swingers? Like I'm like,
Starting point is 00:47:43 because I hear so much stuff on my show. You know, what I'm like, I find. You know, there's so many couples that talk to me about like hooking up with other people and that's what they do in their relationship after many years, you know? Like, people are doing these things that I'm just like, you just don't know because this is like so many people are, you know? And I think you need to live in that world. I think it'd be better for you.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I guess you don't, I could get that you, you don't have a problem with like what you're doing and like, you know, the lying thing. I think it's wrong because you're young and you're just starting out and you have told her some things that I think you should just be super honest with who you are moving forward with whoever. And if it's not her and she doesn't like it, then that's fine. Who cares? You don't have kids. You don't living with her. Like there's not much damage that it's done if that really should have been.
Starting point is 00:48:35 So yeah, it's sad. You've been with her for a long time and it's hard. But like most people don't wind up with the same person they're dating and they're 20. for the rest of their lives. You know what I mean? It's unrealistic. So whatever, you know, but you should start with her, come clean before you move in. And then if that doesn't work out, like, you know, try to find yourself somebody that's open so that you don't have to be a 50-year-old. See, you don't have to be a 50-year-old calling my show. Yeah, exactly. The moral lies behind your kids back, you know, and whatever. And I think that
Starting point is 00:49:07 the naughtiness will still be good, you know. I don't know. Do you have any other good crazy stories to say before we get off? Not really, yeah. I mean, I'm sure I have a couple. What is your whole panty thing? Was it kind of like the guy that just called in, or is it more like you just like to wear them? Does your girl know about that?
Starting point is 00:49:23 No, I don't, I hate when people call them panties because they're not, like, I don't wear, like, women's, I mean, I wear, like, thongs and bikinis and stuff, but like Kelvin Klein thongs and not pink or whatever, silk and whatnot. Yeah. Yeah. I just wear them every day and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Does your girl know? Yeah. And she's cool with that. Yeah, she's okay with it. Like she's not into it, but she's okay with it. I mean, she's bought me some underwear before. Right. But I don't know how into she really is.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Right. But like whenever we have sex and I'm wearing a thong, she doesn't stop having sex or anything. Now, does she ever, do you ever play with, like, toys with her, like, and have her, like, you know, peg you or anything like that? Have you gone into that with her? She has stuck her, uh, vibrator in me once or twice before. Uh-huh. But that never escalated after that. Right. But was that good for you? I just think she thinks it's, what?
Starting point is 00:50:31 Was it good for you? Did she do that for you? Right. Yeah. Just because I asked her, but I don't think she would do that because she wanted to. Right. It wasn't like she was in it. Because I did have somebody on that said like they actually got into it the more that they did it. So you just don't know. You got to try it.
Starting point is 00:50:47 You just got to, you know, ease or into the stuff that you really like. You got to bring it up again that you're really into guys. Maybe you could start doing stuff with her. You never know. She might be into it. If you ease or into it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:01 Slowly. Start now before, you know, you got to move in with her. And before you get busted with any guys behind her. her back. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. What's going to happen? I think you, what? You don't know. I mean, if you had to make a guess and then I want you to let me know when you do talk to her what the deal is, I mean, I don't know enough about her to know how she's going to go either way. But if you had to make a guess, you know her for three years. She's your girlfriend. You've had these conversations with her. If you had to take a guess of what would
Starting point is 00:51:37 go down and what her reaction would be, what would your gas be? Um, I don't think, I don't think she'd like it. And that's why it's just like, that's why you haven't been totally. If I was single, right. I wouldn't have to worry about any of this. I could go fuck a guy one night, fuck a girl the next night.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah. No, and that's, that's the truth. And you wouldn't have to lie and all that kind of stuff. So, you know, but would you think she'd break up with you? Um, no, but I just think it would. If she wasn't into it. Right, right. and then maybe you'd be free and then you'd get to go do your thing.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I, you know, I think it's so great that you're going to get to that point you're going to do it because you're young and if this is what you're really into it, you just got to fucking do it. You know what I mean? And this is the time to do it before you get tied up in like a long-term relationship with kids and all that stuff and you just haven't lived your life. You know what I mean? Go live your life the way you want. Have all your fucking fun and do that shit when you're young because that's when you should do it. So you're not having like a midlife crisis when you're 50. like some of my guy friends is so pathetic.
Starting point is 00:52:40 That's what I'm thinking. Totally. Do it now. Live it up and have fun. And so you're not the 40-year-old guy with the friend's son, I don't know, and all that shit. God knows what he's bringing home to his poor wife and her kids. I'm sure he was happy. Oh, my God. Yeah, he got the 20-year-old. But you said he's super hot and rich, so he probably had a lot of other 20-year-olds too.
Starting point is 00:53:02 But, yeah, I mean, imagine that story for him, too. Oh, my God, because he was the older guy in that situation. You were like that young hot stud. Yeah. People are going to rewind that story and listen to it again. It was really good. Yeah. And he stayed for like three hours after too.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I could imagine. We were just fucking the entire time. Yeah, so that was a three-hour experience. I can't even know. Yeah, that's great. So anyway, keep me posted and let me know what actually does happen when you tell her. Tell her soon so we could find out what it goes down. I mean, you know, I'll still be doing my podcast six months from now.
Starting point is 00:53:34 So, you know, let me know whenever you have that conversation and let me know how it goes down and good luck with it. All right, cool. Thank you. All right, thanks for calling in Chase. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback
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