Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 239 - Powerman Discusses the Secret World of Bondage

Episode Date: July 9, 2018

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And this week is going to be another repeat. Only because after I would say almost five years, my trusty MacBook. I mean, Apple's fucking products are the best, right? Because it lasts me five years and then it went bust. It's in the process of being fixed. But I lost everything. And I had to get a new MacBook. And then Garage Band was this whole new version, right?

And I'm like, it was like fucking learning Chinese. for the past two weeks. I didn't know how to use it. Like, I've been doing my show and editing on the old version of podcast and all of a sudden my new Mac had the new version and I was fucked big time. So I gave you an old podcast last week, but it was a good one. And I'm going to give you an old podcast this week. But this one's a good one. It's like a very, I think, popular topic after that stupid book, Shades of Grey. I never read it, but it got a lot of people into bondage. And I think a lot more people are into it and different varieties of it or different. different like sort of uh what is the word i can't even know but you know what i mean like different

some people are into hardcore bdsm and bondage some people like late bondage but this guy was a guy that i found very early on when i started to do my podcast on craigslist and he was a bondage guy right and he talks all about it and so it's like a big good overview on that whole world and like i said i decided to repeat it because i haven't had a bondage guy on like a strictly hardcore BDSM guy on for a while. And I just feel like it's sort of like a topic that everybody likes to know about. And this guy knows all about it because he's been, he's like a professional.

He was on my show a couple times if you want to hear some of his other podcasts. You could just like Google for it and find him. His name was Power Man. That's who, that's his fake name. But that's the reason. You're definitely getting new episodes after this week because I finally think I figured this garage band out.

That's why I'm able to even put this intro with my old podcast. Like, that's how savvy I am after two weeks. So anyway, so sorry about the, you know, repeat episodes, but, you know, what can you do? But everything will be back on track next week. So I'm going to be right back on with Power Man. It's a good episode on Bondage, BDSM. I'll be right back. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to

anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hello? This is Power Band? That's what we call you. That's me. That's you. You were on one of our first episodes. I'm It's only me on the call. Tommy's on on. And you made it.

I'm sure you probably don't listen to my podcast, but you made it on like the intro that I had made. They did some clips of the show and you're on that intro permanently. Well, I'm honored. Yeah, it was when my best advice to you is rehide your whips and chains. That's what I say on every episode. Because that's really what it was. I mean, you didn't really call in.

I mean, we have a lot of people that call in and they have like actual problems and we talk to them. I mean, you were, it was more interesting because you just basically talked about you know, your lifestyle, which is you're in the bond. Is that what they call it, like the bondage lifestyle? Is that the right term? Yeah, I mean, there's really, like the way my brain works, there's kind of two or three ways. There's sort of the hardcore BDSM, you know, master's slave, big time control.

There's the, hey, I'm not really a slave. I'm submissive and I want to be dominated. And then there's the average person who kind of wants to. wants to experiment a little bit into the realm. And, yeah, so I would say I'm, like, kind of between two and three. You're in the, I was just going to say, which one are you? You're in the middle of the average person that, like, wants to maybe tie somebody up every now and then to the, and the other person that really goes to, like, dungeons and, like,

pays for people to beat the shit out of them? Yeah, no, I'm beyond, I'm beyond that. I mean, I actually have a couple of subs. I'm not into the heavy slave where you have. complete ownership and control over everything, but I'm way beyond what the average person does. I mean, you know, whips, chains, floggers. You're beyond that or that's what you're into? No, I'm beyond that.

I'm sort of like if three is the hardest core BBSM and one is like the average married couple that wants to experiment, I'm like a 2.4, 2.5 kind of thing. Right. So what's beyond the flogging and all that shit? Like what is beyond that? The difference between a submissive person and a slave. So let's take the slave, the BDSM heavy slave thing. I mean, literally in a pure BDSM environment, you are actually impleting more pain than you would with a case where it would be a submissive person or a wife.

But you literally are owning that person. At the very high end of that relationship, you are controlling their finances. you are they are there is literally a website where you go and you can register the person and they're giving given a um like a dog uh they're given a slave number oh my god what's the website can you give me that or no for collar just look yeah at top my head just just just look for light well first look that light has a lot of really good information but just look for call just search on google on collars and you'll see it but literally they wear a collar all the time And the master controls what they eat controls,

that finances, controls the whole world. And that's kind of where I stop, because I don't want to be in that realm. And you can't, though, because you're married, right? I mean, how do you have so much control if you're not even living with that person anyway? Can't they take that shit off when they're not with you? A lot of it is done through journal entries,

is done through the internet, it's not all of it's face-to-face. Right. They literally have a shared database where they go in the morning and, you know, they have to write the journal about what you tell them. It could be that you want them to express their feelings. It could be that you give them an assignment to do. It's all about control.

Right. And it's all about control. And it could be about anything. What you really, it's really two things. It's control and it's about that person feeling like they are your property. Right. That's really kind of the two things. and you're at that place

you have property oh yeah how many properties do you own physically see and I have one sometimes there's really one and a half that's pure internet control Skype

you know we're not going to meet that kind of thing and actually I'm pointing a lot of people are really into that the one where it's just sort of virtual and it's more a fantasy in your mind that doesn't really happen in reality, but you still get all the, like, you know, benefits of it, I guess. I mean, do people, like, how does this turn into sex?

Like, what's, like, do you think that these people jerk off to that control or, like, is it always about sex? No, it's not always about sex. Sex, to me, is a byproduct of it, and sex is really used as more of a control. It could be, like, a punishment where if you don't do this or don't do that or, you know, you have to perform specific sexual acts or in the highest realm, what really happens is that person is doing, there's, like, actually there was one this week. It was a gang bang where, like, when you own a slave, you might say that you loan, like, if you look at Fet Life,

they'll have a whole section on loaned out slaves, right, where guys who are dominant will loan their slaves out to people and they have to perform specific acts for that person to do that. things could be that they're cleaning whatever but it but a lot of it has to do with sex and it's more to work into that person's mind that their that their property but this week there was a huge um gang bang and where the master wanted this woman or several women um gang bang just to prove that they were that they were property um so it does it does get down to sex but it's not all about the sex it's more about control and how did you hear about that gang bang is that something where there's like personal section where you hear about that or you're

on some sort of email did you go to that gang bang yeah so there's three different ways you know there's the clubs in manhattan lot trapeas and places like that when you go and meet people but like out here on the island every week there's what they call a munchy yeah that night in farmingdale and they'll all get they'll get together and it's sort of like an open buffet kind of thing and everybody just meets and nothing really physically happens here except to meet people But really, you start to develop relationships with both male and female dominatrix and masters. And then they know that you're clean and you're safe and, you know, you're real. And they want their people, they want their people gang bang and they'll, you're on an email list.

And interesting enough, the biggest problem that they have is getting people that actually will show up to these events, right? Yeah. Yeah. They go and they get a hotel room. You know, they spend all this money and, you know, three people show up because the amount of no show is unbelievable. Well, that's like any party. You know, you got to invite like triple the amount of people you want to show up at a party

to get that amount of people to show up. I mean, that's just like. Yeah. You get it from the websites like that life. You get it from these much as where you need people. You get it for people who you've established the relationship with. They know you're real. I know you're clean.

I know you're safe. And I'll get an email. So I'll get an email from one of the masters or from one of the dominatrix and said, look, you know, ex-person is, you know, we want to do a gang-bang a month from now. You know, can you make it? I'll come in, I'll help you out, you know. So you go in and at that gang-bang, you fuck a girl that's being fucked by like 10 other guys. Like a typical gang bank? Yeah, it's what some or, again, every one is different.

Right. You know, limits and this and that. Like, I went to one where it was just they wanted to do like a Bukaki where there was actually no sex. They did have a fluffer, and that's a whole other thing because they have these fluffers there. And the guy just wanted to have like 10 or 12 people jerk off in this woman's face. And it was, you know, it was just one of the ways that they just worked this whole, your property, I own you, I'll decide what you do kind of things. And they range, but like this one was full-fledged sex. The one that you went to.

And do people use condoms? Oh, absolutely. Right. So how many guys screwed this girl? How many guys do you think were at this thing? It was just one woman or a couple women? And both men, women, and couples use these people. This was an all-night deal.

So, you know, it started at like six of us. I was gone by like 9, 30, 10. And so I could say the people come in at six. They'll use this woman. They'll go out. They'll have dinner. They might come back later on. Use her again.

Couples use the woman. there was one woman that put with a guy, put a strap on and used this woman. I mean, it just all the end. My guess, this is kind of a big one because it was an event kind of thing. I'm sure there were 25 people there by the end of the night. Easy. Right. And so that's definitely about sex, right?

Because everyone's in there. It's sort of like a swingers party, but it's a little bit more hardcore because this person, the sex is like not just normal sex. Right? Like, I mean, you guys could sort of push the boundaries because these people are into it. Yeah. There's always one is, you know, no, obviously no, no biot. No urine, no, no scat, no rimming, no blood, none of that. What's scat?

I don't know. Is that shit? Like, what's scat? Oh, okay. So people. That's with it. Oh, okay. So they give you like the rules of this is like you could do everything except these kind of things.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But some of them, you can. scat on them. I haven't been to one of those. I would imagine that they're all. I've been to golden shower ones. Right.

Again, it's off without humiliation and owning the person. And it's interesting that some of these, like this particular one, the person who was running the thing was the one who was controlling. Like you, if you were going to like come in the woman's face or whatever, you had to ask first, you know, beyond a normal sex. And it was just more, again, to go and. into the person's brain and say, you're my property. That's what this really is. Right. It's a psychological aspect of owning that person and controlling them and they're

your profit. And it's not just man to women. Women own men too. I mean, it goes both ways, right? It's not just like the men owning the women as slaves. There's women who have men slaves or no? I probably think there's more the other way where the women own the men. And of course, I don't.

it's not something that I'm really into. So there's a lot of those parties that go on, and so you'll get a lot of gay men or bisexual men that go. And, um... Oh, see, these women want them to be with other men. It's not like these women want them to go fuck other women. Um, both ways. It goes both ways.

It's, it's, yes. I mean, it's interesting. Some of the women who are more in the domineering side will go to, uh, some of the ones that are, that are women. and we'll do some control thing. I mean, I seem like with people's feet you know, stuff like, did you just like even this week there was

a case where like two people went a man and woman and the man and it was just partner so they didn't wear a condom. So he he fucked a woman, came in her pussy and they made the slave lick it up. And that was perfectly okay. And the slave was a man or a woman? The slave was a woman.

Right, okay. But I've also seen that where it's a man. There actually had a lot of women that when there isn't like I've been to something that are both men and women um dominant don't slaves and uh you know and so again I don't it's not something I'm into the man part of it but um I've seen couples come in and the women put a strap on and screw the man it just it depends but I think the more traditional is a female dominatrix with a male slave and using and there's a lot of gay men and bisexual men that show up and use that slave.

Use the man, right. Okay, but you go to the ones where it's a man controlling a woman and he sees her with other men, right? Yes, exactly. It's more my interest. Right. And you have, so you have two slaves. Have you ever done, like, what do you like to do with your slaves? Like, do you like them to do the, like to have you set of orgies with your slaves?

No, just not really into the big use the person with eight to ten people, but I do use one with other couples. So, you know, I like to, you know, we'll do it either like a swap or we'll do it like I'll lend her out to somebody and in return that guy might lend one of his to me. And it's more, it's more of control. That takes a while to get to that point. Right. But I'm not more in with the people that I have for the big eight, 10, 12 people, get out of the

room. Right. That doesn't get. You don't like that kind of control. You like to control in a different way. And that's probably everybody's like kind of different, right? And so you get paired up sort of with people that are into the same things, like slaves that are into what you're into? Or do they just have to do whatever you want?

Yeah, if you look at that website, there's literally a group for everything imaginable and unimaginable. So like there's a golden shower group. There's a Scat group. There's a Lend out you save. What's that website? Because it sounds like you're saying set life, S-E-T-L-I-F-E? It's S-E-T-L-I-F-E. F-E-T, F-E-T, F-L-L-L-F-L-F-L-F-E-T.

Some picture if you feel comfortable doing that, but you could look at the different group and the discussions going on. You know, there's somebody into anything you can imagine. Objects. You know, golden showers, scat, you know, being lent out, you know, Bukaki, you name it. It's just somebody into it, you know?

Right, and then that's how you get paired up. So you went in looking for what you were interested in, found women, your slaves are women. Now, you're married, okay, too, right? Like, you're still married, right? Oh, yeah. So you're living, like, a completely separate life. Like, like, literally your bondage life and your slaves and all this stuff is totally, like,

another life that your wife has no idea about, right? Or anybody in your life has any idea about. Yeah, I agree. Absolutely. And you, and, I mean, we talked about this last time, and I really started to think, like, I should just go into business, and I have a business where I can help people like you when you guys die that, you know, we go in there and we clean up all that shit so nobody ever finds out, you know what I mean? Because that's like, was my biggest concern for you for you. Is that like,

at some point, you're going to get busted and it's either, you know, I think it's worse after you're dead because that's just what you'll be known for, you know, like, what do you do to keep your, your life private? Well, you know, it's funny. If you watched Shark Tank this week, there was a guy who had an app. he called it a privacy app where people can text you and people can send you photos or whatever and it gets intercepted and goes into a separate kind of place where nobody else could see it but you there's a lot of stuff in your cell phone there's a lot of like things you could hide in your cell phones like videos and photos and things of that nature um it's it's it's a process you know you got to delete your emails you got to get rid of your pictures you got to make sure you text are clean out you

know, it is processed. Do you have two different phones? Do you have two different phones? Do you have two different phones? Yeah, no, I have two. I have two different phones. So your wife and your, your sex life with your wife, do you feel like what you do in your private life or your separate life, like, helps your life with your wife as well?

So you go back to her and it's always sort of like, because maybe you could take those stories in your mind and use it when you're having sex with her. I would argue with anybody that I think it actually enhances. That's what I mean. Yeah, it does, right? Oh, yeah, it absolutely enhances the other part. So it acts as an aphrodisiac. It enhances.

I mean, look, you know, there are people that are into swinging and they go to swing clubs. They have great relationships with their spouse and their wife, but they just, they like variety in their sex life. Right. As long as you're being clean and not harming anybody and not doing anything illegal and you're not going to run with any diseases, you know, I personally think it's healthy.

Yeah, no, we talk. about monogamy versus non-monogamy and relationships all the time of my podcast because I think it's like a, you know, it's a thing that doesn't, it's not so, you know, monogamy is, like, a fucked up, made up thing that doesn't work for either men or women,

you know, and to me, it's worse for women because we're forced to believe that it actually exists and then we have to be devastated when we find out, you know, it's very hard for man to be monogamous, then we have to leave, you know, it's like a terrible thing. I think it's worse for women because men will still just do

They'll just go fuck other people and it's very easy to get away with and whatever. But women have to live in this fantasy land where, you know, that is a possibility or, you know, it's a reality. And it really isn't for most men. You know what I mean? Listen, I know men that are monogamous, but most men aren't. And when you're talking about a marriage, I mean, how long have you been married to your wife? Over 30 years. Right.

So how the hell are you going to be into screwing the same person for 30 years, you know? I mean, how does, you know, how can somebody keep that? going, you know, and you, like you said, like, I believe that it would help at this point a situation. You know what I mean? Like, of course, because been there, done that, like, you know, 20 years ago, right? Like, I mean, with your wife. So it's like if you're having

these other kinds of experiences, you know, so I... Yeah, I can... I completely agree. I mean, there's only so many movies and marylays and toys and lotion and stuff you could add, but, you know, it's hard at 30 years to have that that intensity and see this stuff gets get some of that intensity back. Yeah, because you have these fantasies

and these other things that you could sort of bring to that relationship, right, in your own mind and like, you know, add it in because I'm sure you and your wife's relationship is about so many other things after 30 years. You know, it's so, you know, sort of about other things other than sex, right? And that's why you're still together. That, you know, the sex is like a small part.

But to keep it good, I could imagine that having these thoughts in your head of what you're, you're doing on the side actually helps. Yep. I mean, I think people would think I'm terrible to say that and, you know, but do you feel like if your wife, like do you really knowing your wife, right? Like, I think it's easier for women to be monogamous than men. Like, I don't know what your wife does on the side and if she's living a double life,

but probably not. I don't know. But like, do you feel like if she knew, if she found out everything about you that you would she be surprised or would she have an idea? Do you think? I think she has an idea. I don't think she has an idea to the extent. And I think she'd be, well, it'd be an initial, like, why aren't you just trying to do that here with me?

But I also think that I'm now kind of gone a lot, you know, like at night and this and that. And I kind of think she has an idea that something's going on. But she also knows that, you know, we sleep in the same bed and we have a relation. We go out to dinner and we have a set. And I think she's kind of like, all right, if you want to go stray a little bit, you know, back here, we're fine. That's how I feel. I talk about it all the time.

I mean, I've never been in a very long-term relationship where I've gotten to the point where, you know, you know that, like, you have sort of unconditional love for each other and you know that you're partnering up forever. You know, you sort of stood the test of time. Neither one of you is going anywhere. You're so invested in that relationship in so many ways that you know that no one's leaving, right? So what is it really?

I do believe, though, if I got to that point, what does it really matter if you know somebody screws somebody else you know what I mean you're not leaving your you're never going to leave your wife right for any of these fucking slaves yeah exactly right and so if your wife knows that like what is it really matter as like especially it's great that you're using condoms you know I think that's where you know a guy needs to be respectful and certain guys aren't and that's what's fucked up but if you're always using condoms and you're you know and you love your wife in the way that you do and you're just having this sex thing and it's like what does it really matter I think the problem is, is if you, like I said, if you die or something happens and she finds out and it's not

sort of explained, you know, people go crazy about stuff. And that's where you want to be like, you know, that's where I think it sucks when the woman finds out or things come out and you're not there to sort of explain it or whatever. And then it just looks worse than it is. But I don't think it's that bad after 30 years. And like you said, you're not leaving your wife. You're not having, I mean, it is kind of a relationship with these women because there's a lot of work that goes into this. I remember when you talked about it in the beginning, it was like there's a lot of writing that goes on. There's a lot of communication with your slaves, right?

Oh my God. It's, in many cases, I mean, I think some people have a stronger relationship than trust and bond and they do with their significant other. It's that. Yeah, I mean, when you get to the high end, you know, listen, when you're taking somebody

in a room and you know, putting handcuffs on them and tying them to a bed and, you know, sometimes you might leave for a supplement it or whatever. I mean, there's a lot of trust involved, right? You know, that just happened like first on the first time. And when you're lending, lending somebody out to somebody, you know, there's a lot that has to happen. So, yeah, I think it's, it's the communication, which, by the way, most of the domino, the master's and the dominatrix, they make their

slave write a journal, literally a journal where it's like a word document. I remember, yeah. There's a lot of writing and homework assignments. I remember that. was like you telling us about that. You're trying to get inside the person's head. So you can control them. And you can control them. So I completely agree with you. It's a lot of work.

Listen, if you want to get laid, this is not, there's a lot of easy ways to do it than this. Exactly. You're not just hiring a hooker and screwing them like a hot hooker, you know, escort or whatever for an evening. There's a lot more to it. But somebody like you, I think people that get involved in that are just wired that they need that.

you know to sort of to get their rocks off like maybe just like screwing some hot girls not enough for you you need that control whatever it is that's what gets you off so you need all that extra stuff or you want it you know what gets you going so that's how you sort of get off in the you know your other side of your life it's just sexually right there's a lot of men and women that uh and a lot of them i mean there's some relationship between the people that have like these high power jobs are always in control and making decisions and then they just want to give that up for a certain point of their life and have somebody else

made the decision. Like with my with my son, I pick the restaurant, I order for her. I mean, kind of know like what not to order and whatnot, but she doesn't even look at a menu. I order for her. No, this is what I was going to be my next question because I know you have like only like five more minutes, right? Are you okay with time?

You tell me when you're... I got a little bit of time. Okay, so for me like my next question was like how are you in your relationship with your wife like do you feel like on some level you super controlling with her too you know or is it like you have no control with her and that's why you go do this over there like what's your wife's personality like and what's your relationship it's it's really kind of interesting so if you think big fortune 500 three billion dollar companies I'm vice president of like a huge corporation and lots of responsibility in this and this and that.

And I don't want to control my wife. This may sound completely counterintuitive, but I don't want to control her. Like, I would rather her take care of the bills and her take care of this. I do this crap all day long. So in that relationship, I'd rather her take care of all that stuff. And so it isn't a case that I can't control her. I prefer that she takes care.

some of the control over some of the things who just makes my life a lot easier. Right. I have a, I like a little bit more control in the bedroom. So I'd say she's very outgoing, very, very easygoing, very outgoing, high-energy kind of person. I think some aspects of the life she likes to take control of some she doesn't. But I don't think it's because I can't control it. I do the other thing. It's a totally separate thing.

So with her in reality, that works for you because you're the super powerful guy. in your life and you have so much control. Like you need someone that's a little bit more, you're equal that could take care, you know, take a, you know, she's a good partner to somebody like you.

Um, you don't need, have that need to control her. Because I know some super successful guys at your level and they're super controlling too, even with their women, you know, and they like women that are,

you know, that they could do the same thing where, and maybe it's because they're not doing that with like fucking sleeves. You know what I mean? They do it with their primary women, you know, for sure.

So it's interesting that you're not that way. Right. So I've got like over, you're managing a half a billion dollars of this company. I've got over 500 people in my organization. Right. And I don't want to do that. Because when I get out of that office,

I'm kind of like going to make decisions. You know, my day starts out with 10 people outside my office, this crisis, this crisis. It's like, what are we going to do about this? What are we going to do about this customer? What are we going to discount here? It's like, when I leave that office, I'm like, I don't want to do that. Right, you want to turn off.

You just want to be on off because you're on, like, turned on the whole time. So it's nice that you have that wife. But then when you go into these other relationships, you go back to that part. But it's even more hardcore, I feel like, because that's a really, like when you say you're having them write essays and, you know, that's a very analytical, like really get in their control. That's a whole other form of control than what you're doing in your work. Yeah. It's way beyond the work. And you really hit it right in the head.

It's way beyond the work. And what I do like about that, trust me, I love the sex. And so if there's if there's a mess up or somebody doesn't do it, it's supposed to do, most of my punishments, not all of them are sexual punishments. So, you know, um, so it is about sex. I mean, it comes down to it. It's just that's where you like, you're probably a super smart. If I were out to analyze it, maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.

You're probably like super smart, like really smart. Like, you know, and you're like, you know, need some sex on the side because you're like a normal guy. but you need, you can't just get off on just like, you know, like just a hot girl. Like you need more than that because your mind, you're so super smart. So you add all this stuff and that like does it for you. I mean, is that a right assessment or no? Yeah, it's a great assessment. I mean, I see great looking women all the time and I'm like, you know, that's wonderful,

but not, you know, that wears off pretty quick. But you give me, I mean, I wouldn't yet and I didn't say, you know, well, one of the such subs I have is, it's fairly good, you know, more heavier kind of girl. also as it was a way to really look good. But, you know, it isn't, it's more of the control and the, you know, and that aspect of it. I would much rather have a woman maybe isn't have as great a body or it's not as pretty, and I could get more control over than some hot babe that thinks she knows it all. And, you know, it's like, oh, super confident.

Right. You don't want that. Yeah, I don't want that. Right. I know a lot of guys that think they get off on that. That's great. It's just not for me. Oh, yeah, no.

A lot of players, they want to, like, conquer. Like, a lot of guys have the opposite of you. They want to conquer that shit. You know what I mean? It's, like, a thing for them. It's like a challenge. But, yeah, and, I mean, do you think, I mean, I don't know, because I'm, like, a controlling person myself.

So I feel like if somebody was making me right things, I feel like I would sort of, I'm always five steps ahead of anybody else because I have a brain like that. So I would be, I would know they're trying to get shit from me in those essays, so I would sort of do it in a way so they wouldn't do. you feel like these women, they must be just totally different, that they really are honest in there. So you could really, like, that's what they want. They want you to know who they are.

They want to be controlled. So they're really sort of open so that you really could get in there and do what you need to do. Yeah. I agree. I think, like, one of the, and that's one of the beauties of the website that's only about steplike. Because you go in and talk to other slaves and also masters and talk about what, what exercises they asked them to do or what kind of journals they wanted them to write. Tell me three things that you're really happy for today.

And tell me, you know, three things that you wish you could do better to, you know, to make yourself a better person. And they literally have to document that. And you really start to get inside the head to keep what they're thinking. Now, are there somebody that's going to write down anything? Yeah, I'm sure. But you could really start to prove that. Why do you feel like that?

Well, what about this? What about that? So you know they're being genuine. Right. If you have any sort of connection, and I feel like anyone that's into this is like sort of interested in, you know, human behavior and the way things sort of work. So you know, you're going to smell bullshit from a mile away, right? If things don't make sense of what they're saying. In my business life, I deal with that all day along. And you really know when people are trying to bullshit yet. Right. You could put that stuff together if you're like into like, you know, analyzing human psychology. I'm into that. So I would know if someone's bullshit. You know what I mean? That's why I wouldn't be able to be overpowered by someone because I could always see that shit. from a mile away, but a lot, I guess I think, you know, a lot of people just don't get that. You know what I mean? So they're just out there. And these women want to be dominated. So they're

just like that kind of person. So they go into it and they're very honest and they let you get under their skin. You know, they let you know and they let you be five steps ahead of them as a foot, you know, and then they do whatever the fuck you want because that's what gets them off. Yeah, I completely agree. Yeah. Interesting. I couldn't imagine. But I think it's fascinating. You know, the whole world. Do you find, my last question to you is like, do you find that book, that dumb book that I just think, I don't know, I never read it, but everyone was like all the rage. What was that book

again called? It's like a movie now. 50 shades of gray. Oh, yeah. Is that such bullshit to people in your real world, or do you actually feel like that was like a good book? Well, two things. First off, and for a guy like me, we can't

wait. January, sorry, Valentine's Day, they're going to release the movie, right? And I've seen the coming attractions of the movie. You know, there's a guy who's an executive and the woman who comes in for a job and he ultimately, there's one of the scenes where she's got blind folds on

and she's tied to the bed and he has like a feather thing he's kicked on her and one where I think it's like a flogger and he's whipping her. But, you know, once that movie hits for all the people who haven't seen it, it's going to be a wave of people who want to try

that stuff, right? You know, when the books came out there saying that at some of the adult sex shops of toy sales of blindfolds and handcuffs, you know, doubled and tripled. Totally. That's actually right. Yeah. If you're the people who are really into the lifestyle, they say, well, the way the book is it really doesn't happen like that or it's really not true. And I think the jury's out on that.

But at the end of the day, he's a controlling guy. He wants to be in control. She's a submissive woman. She wants somebody to dominate her. And that's what it's about. And so you could argue whether this point is really how it happens in real life or that point, really how it happens in real life. But the crux is it. And I think there's a lot of people that are going to be experimenting after that.

And that helps you because you go to these munchers and there's new, you know, hot slaves there, right? Like that's how you benefit. So you guys are into it. Yeah. Oh, wow. But, yeah, I think there's some stuff that will fall into my lap because there are people who are going to want to try that. and it's perfectly okay to try it with somebody who's never done it before, then's fine. But, you know, if you can try it with somebody who has a little bit of experience there, it would be really good.

Right. But a lot of people are, well, I think, yeah, listen, I know a lot of people started to read that book that were never into it that started to try things. And I think a lot of people, like you said, that there was a scale. Like there's some people that just want to tie up and all that kind of stuff on that's like the one, you know, and then the three is like hardcore. But I think a lot of people could get into like that level. one kind of bondage, right? And just try it. And they might be like, wow, this like really is great. Because I think like, you know, just human nature on some level to want to be sort of taken by force, you know, and everyone has that kind of fantasy. A lot of people do, you know.

So I think the book helps people sort of go there. And then I feel like you're going to get people out of that that are like, wow, I really like this. I didn't realize it. And then they're going to go further. So, and then, you know, those are the people that are going to find you at those munchers. Because to get to the point where you're Googling it and you're, and you're you're going to those kind of events. You're starting to get serious about it. Yeah, I agree. And I think your way of putting it at level one is a good way.

I think there are a lot of people like when the books came out, like I say, handcuffed sales skyrocketed, blindfold sales skyrocketed, you know, that we're into that level one. And I want to try it. And maybe it's for them and maybe it's not for them. And, you know, but I think that once this movie hits, I think there's a wave of people that are going to be really experimented.

thing in this area. And when I tune in the movie, the coming attraction, it does look good. Right. Right. And you like it because that's like your fantasy. That's what you're into.

One more question. Do your slaves, are they married and living double lives? Or like, do you know, do you get into their personal life? Do you guys ever discuss stuff like outside of that lifestyle? Or do you keep your separate life,

like, except private? Yeah. So I would tell you that it's different for each person. The one that I have is married. And I, I see she sort of talks of he's a little bit off limits

you know one of her things is the interview I really want to talk about him that much but what I got at least you get a little each time is you know he's very nice guy treat her like a princess treats her like very fragile she wants it rougher

you know she she can't get him there you know she's kind of reaching out a lot of people want to kind of keep that part of their life a little bit separate, and I'm perfectly okay with that. I'll build in as deep as they want to go into that, or as

I'll back off on it, as little as they want, if they're not really comfortable. The one that I have is, the one who's married, really is very off. Like, I don't want you to know where it works. I don't even want you to know his name, we're going to call him this, you know, and she wants to keep that separate, and I'm perfectly okay with that. Right, and you don't give her,

and she doesn't give a shit about what you have on the side either. I wouldn't say that. I know I'm married, and, you know, she doesn't, she's sort of like, if I'm not fulfilling everything that you need, then you need to tell me, but you shouldn't be reaching out to the whole world of other people. And so, you know, I, you know, we have a conversation about that here and there, and it's like, okay, it's not going to be 10 people, but it's not going to be just you either.

And, you know, we go back and forth on that one. It's just, and that's just her. That's so funny. That's like real, like that's like real life. But, you know, like women will always be women. They want to like, you know, they want a man to just be with them. They want to be number one, you know, no matter what it is. And if she feels, she does feel like, like, you know, if I have to do that,

then she's not doing her job. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, don't feel like that. So we have, you know, we have some boundaries. We battle back and forth on. But the other one, the one is not married, you know, we don't have those kind of issues. She knows how the game is played. She knows how the game is played. Right, and she's into it. She's fine, and she doesn't ask you the questions and stuff.

And how long you've been with both of these girls, slaves? Well, the one he's married now is going on probably four years, and the other one is going on about two years, two years maybe, year and a half. Interesting. And are you always looking for new people to sort of put in the mix, or are you happy with just your two? No, I mean, I would always If I found somebody who I was really attracted to When I looked at and said, wow, I would Grab a new person I'm not in the hunt where I'm constantly

Going to the Munchies and banging on the website and this and that But even there, you know, I'll pop one or like even today You know, I was at the gym and one that I had my eye on And I just know she's very submissive and each time we talk, I'm letting a little more out. And I'm like, well, you know, I'm kind of, you know, she says, well, you're a nice guy. And I'm like, well, I'm kind of, I know that looks. And I am a nice guy, but, you know, is a bastard for my life.

I'm kind of controlling and a little bit domineering. And I just want to lay the pipe work. And I kind of saw her eyes light up a little bit. So that's going to be a little slow one because she's a little close for me. But, you know, I think that if something comes along, and it's a good match, I would jump out of it, absolutely, but I'm not always on the hunt. Right.

So you're pretty fulfilled with the wife, the two slaves, but you're always open to maybe if, like you said, the right situation comes back around. Comes around. You'll add another one into the mix. I mean, how do you have time for all this? How do I find the slaves? No, how do you have time?

But I think certain people, I think... Oh, time. Yeah, I think you probably, like, love that. I mean, you know, you're... You probably like to be super busy all the time and have a lot of shit going on and are totally capable of it. mean to have like all that work time management yeah yeah I'm high energy you know big time management

guy um you know I've existed on very little sleep my entire life for whatever reason right people like you are not that way by accident it's like it's a choice you know what I mean like anybody like I have a friend who's like your level and he's always on a plane and he's you know and it's just like people feel sorry for him it's like don't feel sorry for me he loves that like or else he wouldn't choose that you know what I mean like that's a choice so you know when people like you and him I think are very capable. If not, you have that need to have all of that going on at all times. You know what I mean?

And you're good at it, so it's fine. Like, I don't think, right? Yeah. By the way, I'm on a plane about 30, 35% of the time myself. Right. You know, a lot of the, that's where a lot of the websites work. Like, I can go to, you know, Arizona and, you know, beforehand so I can find people on the website and have conversations.

And for whatever reason, people, some people really like. the transitionary part of, well, yeah, this guy's not going to live in the town. He's going to get on a plane. He's going to go back with this and today. Probably not going to see him again. Of course. Some people really like that. Oh, yeah, because it doesn't bother their life so much.

And it's not a full-time commitment. It's just a one-up. I think some people are probably wired that that's more hot to them. And then some people are just like, it's just easier because they're fucking lazy and they don't want to commit to a whole thing. But like, why not have somebody that just flies in every now and then? Yeah, and you know, and so I'm always in a hotel room, so we've got a place to play, you know, I mean, it works out. You know, it works out.

So you have your one-offs on the side when you're traveling besides your two slaves? Oh, God, yes. Oh, so you have a lot of. You know, masters and mistresses that are looking for people to help them. Same thing, you know, gang banging or whatever. So, and then they have some connection because they see you on the website, and you can look at a lot of your past discussions and that. I know you kind of like real and. And that.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. The one-offs, I'm okay with one-offs. Right. So you have those when you're on the road and stuff. But it's still, it's not just like you're getting like a high-class escort on your one-offs.

You're still having that. It's still under the like bondage thing, right? Like it's still a part. It's still that kind of a set up. Yeah. I don't, right? I mean, there might, there are some that would say,

hey, we're going to do this fit for this. I mean, I went to, you know, hors d'oe d'oe d'oe for this. and they had drinks and they had brandy and they had liquor and that. You don't see it. Right.

Right. You need that other thing. So that's always involved. Well, listen, you know, to me it's always fascinating because I don't know anything about your world and it would be great to have you back on when that movie comes out.

When is it coming out in February? February 14th, you said? The movie's coming out in February, yes. Yeah, so I'll get in touch with you. We'd love to have you back on at that time because that's what everyone's going to be talking about. You could really explain the real deal. you got it it's awesome all right so i'm not going to say re-hide your whips and chains because it's

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