Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 247 - Sexually Inexperienced Jason And his Wife Become Full Fledged, Bisexual Swingers

Episode Date: September 3, 2018

James calls in the discuss how him and his wife went from being a sexually inexperienced couple to full fledged,bisexual swingers. When did he started hooking up with guys? When his wife started hooking up with girls? When they started swapping with couples? What are their rules and how do they meet the other couples? Tune in for all the details which include threesomes, full swaps, swinger clubs, swinger vacations, how he learned how to deep throat and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So if you want to call in, like I said, go to my website or send me an email. Strictly anonymous podcast at e-mail.com. Today I have on a guy named Jason, Jason swings with his wife. And they sort of like, I mean, they're full swapping.

He's with guys, she's with girls. Like, that's like the end of the story. But like they didn't start out that way. They went very slowly over like a long period of time sort of dipping their toes in the water. And you hear all about that, like what they started doing at first. Because these were like people, he explained that they were like people who before they got together were very inexperienced. And, you know, 10 years later, they're like, you know, fucking other couples and they're totally by and all this and full swapping and stuff. But like I said, we talk all about what they did first.

how they got started and, you know, all their experiences in between that led to them doing all the swinging that they do now. So, I don't know. What else should I say? I hate fucking doing these inches. Anyway, I'm just going to cut it short because it's a holiday weekend, and I'm going to be right back on with Jason. How you doing today?

Good. Good. Thanks. How are you, Kathy? I'm good. So your listener wrote in, and you said a lot of things in your email. So, you know, I don't know where to begin, but like, no, but I kind of do because you and your wife, you guys are kind of swing. You are definitely swingers. You said you don't do that much. It's not like, and I don't know that any swingers do. It's not like they're swinging every day, right? But every now and then, you and your wife do hug up with other people. But like, what I would want to know first is like, how long you've been with your wife? Like, when did that kind of stuff start? You also, like, flew around with guys too.

And that's another thing I want to know is like, did you go into that relationship with her and she knew that you were into that or did that come up later on? Like, how long have you been with your wife now? So we've been together for about six and a half years and we've been married almost a year. Oh, okay. And then, and so, and how old are you guys? Like late 30s, early 40s. Okay. And so when did the whole open relationship thing come about between you guys?

guys um so like early on when we when we first met and in like in all honestly both of us at the time when we first met and we met in our you know early 30s we both had like limited sexual experience at the time okay i think that kind of led to some of it it's not like we had you know years and years of you know so in our oaths as you know some people say so um well i mean it wasn't like you're a Virgins, but what do you mean you hadn't done? Like, were you in a long-term relationship before that, too? So you were like, no, but you just... Neither one of us were.

Okay. You know, so we met online and, you know, got together, I couldn't hit it all. And then, you know, just in talking to each other. And when we first met and got together and, you know, realized, like, you know, we seemed like a great fit for each other. You know, the sex life between the two of us, you know, was old. Again, neither of us had a ton of sexual experience. I didn't know we were in our early 30s at the time, but, you know, it was really hot early on.

And, you know, lots of sex. We didn't look together, obviously at the time, haven't just met. So anytime, you know, anytime we would see each other, it was like as soon as we got through the door at my place, and all the whole place, and it was, like, whipping our clothes off, helping sex, and doing all different things like that. So that was, like, that great chemistry that you have with some people. Right. That's cool. Yeah, so that was definitely it.

And then, you know, it was like almost like anywhere we could, you know, get into it. We, you know, did a lot of different things like from public play and, you know, not necessarily. And we would for sure get caught, but definitely, you know, having some sexual adventures. Like in where? Like outside, outside or like in a restaurant, in a bathroom or like in a park? Like where did you guys start out doing something like that? I mean, we had gone away on a trip together. You know, we're on a hotel balcony and she, you know, sucked my car on there. And, you know, I parked her on the balcony.

Right. You know, we were going into the city window on the train, you know, and she gave me a blow job on the train. It was a fairly empty car at the time. Right. A couple of people were on this and, you know, that type of thing. Yeah, like fun and naughty and stuff. And you were both down and into it. So you guys were totally on the same page.

Let me ask you a quick side question, though, because we eventually will talk about the fact that you guys don't hook up with other like you talk up with other couples and you're both by right so like when did it when did you start with guys like is it something that you started with your wife when you were with her as a girlfriend or whatever or was this something that you were into before you hooked up with her well i mean that that was something that is it's fairly recent probably within the last year maybe a little more than a year uh-huh that's interesting okay yeah and it wasn't even something that i really knew that you know i was interested in at the time You didn't.

No. That's a new one. I've heard them all. I've heard every story, you know, like every variation. That's why I'll always talk to someone, even if it sounds like the same kind of topic,

because it's always different, right? Because you're a different person, right? So everyone's story is, like, unique, right? So you didn't even realize it was something that you were into before this. Yeah. And like, all the moment, we first got together and we were, you know, hanging out,

and, you know, happy, a couple, you know, we were talking about different fantasies and things like that. And she had told me pretty early on in our relationship that she had always wanted to be with another woman, which, of course, as a guy, you know, like intrigued me. And, you know, I wanted to explore that and let her, you know, I don't know if that's something that she really wanted to do if that was a fantasy of hers, you know, somewhat selfishly, but also, like, you know, very open and wanted her to be able to experience that if she wanted to. You know, I told her, if we could make that happen, you know, I'd certainly be interested in.

interested in, you know, exploring that for her. So that was kind of one of the first things that, you know, let us down this room. Right. So that, but it never came up with you. Like, you weren't like, you didn't start thinking about, like, because normally I think, like, people would know, I don't know, most people, like, when they were younger, maybe secretly that that was something that they were into. Like, was it something that you ever, like, when you're Googling porn or doing shit to

yourself, you've been in your own time? You know what I mean? Like, been, like, kind of attracted. or thought like, oh, that would be hot, not at all. No, not really. Like, I always, like, the act of sucking cock was something that, like, I always kind of was fascinated by, but never so much as to think that, like, I would end up doing that myself or it was something that, you know, I would actually want to do.

But just, like, even seeing a woman suck cock, like, you know, I wasn't one of those guys who, you know, like a lot of guys are like, oh, I watch porn. I don't want to see, you know, love seeing the hot chicks. I don't want to see, you know, the guy's cock and this is that. Yeah. That was something that never like, you know, I could certainly appreciate a nice looking cock, but it was never anything that I thought to myself like, oh, I, you know, want to do something with that.

It was just, you know, I can appreciate it for what it is. Right, right. So you would like to watch the girl do it, but you never thought that that meant that you wanted to be that in that position. Right. Not at that point. Right. So that was something that, you know, kind of developed over time. And like I say, it wasn't until, you know, last year sometime that it actually, you know, came to fruition. Wait. So, okay, so get back to your religion with your girl. you guys are together you both have it like really played with other like the same sex or other people outside of your relationship yet but you're a couple years into your relationship she starts telling you like oh i like to be with like women and then is that what you where you started or how to yeah yeah so she told me that we probably a few months into our relationship oh that was early on uh-huh i've forgot i think you said that right yeah very very early on and then so at that point it was like you know just talking about different fantasies and things like that and then you know it's that

her like if that's something because she's you know when I was in college you know I masturbate to lesbian porn and you know she for a law she said I thought I might actually be a lesbian and you know at that age when you kind of figuring things out yeah you don't know maybe you think like oh that means

something else like you got to like some people it doesn't mean that some people it doesn't right it was so she didn't know that makes sense right yeah um so when she told me that and again I told her you know if that's something that you want to explore like you know I'd be open to that and again most I would think most guys probably would be are immediately thinking of oh maybe we could have

some guys that I think would be like I don't want that like you know there are some possessive guys that like even though that's like a lot of guys fantasy they wouldn't be into it but so that was cool like you were open to it and into it cool for sure um so it was kind of that led us to when it was funny like when we you know very early on in dating we talked about how It just so happened that each of us had read, like, a lot of erotic stories, and there was a website that we both happened to read, and we, like, discovered as we, you know, talked about different things that we both read the same website that had erotic stories. So, you know, again, that's just a way of developing, you know, fantasy, and reading about different things. So, you know, that was kind of cool, and we learned a lot of, like, both of us are kind of into, you know, exploring different things and, you know, reading about different adventures and things. You guys are really compatible.

Yeah. You're lucky. You're lucky. Which led to the marriage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. So when she had told me about that, you know, it's not immediately, but eventually, you know, she was saying, you know, what are some of your fantasies and this and that?

You know, I said, oh, like, I thought it would be really hot to, like, watch other people, you know, having sex in person, you know, porn aside, like, to go to a sex at the time before, like, we were familiar with, like, swinging at clubs and things like that. They all, like, go to a sex club, you know, watch people, like, fucking in person. or something she's like oh yeah that's something i'd be interested in so just exploring things like that so then it was like well how do we you know how do you do that where do you find that so of course like i'm online you know looking around and figuring out how you do something like that and that's you know where i discovered some of like the swinger or lifestyle websites and things like that so it created a profile for us and that was kind of like you know the launching pad for it

what website did you um join and set up an account for? Like was it adult friend finders? Like what was it? Which one did you go on? The first way, at this point we have with, you know, profiles on a few different sites. But the first one that I did was swinglifestyle.com. Uh-huh. Okay. That was a good one that you found. Yeah. And I think with a lot of these websites I've learned over the years. Now, you know, a lot of them are kind of regional, you know, depending on where you live, you know, maybe more or less people in your area depending on the site. So that was one that just seemed to, you know, across the country have, you know,

a lot of people in many different areas, so that kind of worked for us. And for a while, it was just kind of checking out profile. You know, there's information on there besides just being able to look up other couples and see who's in your area. You know, you can find clubs and stuff like that because you were looking to go to a club, right? Yeah, yeah. And so did you, is that what you did first, has gone to your first club, or did you hook up with another couple first?

Like, what was the first step into it? Well, so the first thing we ended up doing was we, before we even interacted with another couple we ended up going to Desire Resort in Mexico I don't know if you're familiar with that no it's so funny I was just listening to some interview of some famous girl was talking on some show and she was saying that her and her husband went there but they got there on a week where it was all like old ugly people and supposedly there was like a week like there's a bunch of people that are normally hot that go there but they were like on the off wait I don't know she told a really funny story about it but I think it was the desire

St. Lee. Yeah. Okay. So that was talking to the first thing that we did. And what goes on there? So desire is in Mexico. They have two different properties there. We want to desire Riviera Maya.

And it's billed as like a clothing optional lifestyle friendly resort. Right. Okay. You know, when you go there basically, you know, for the most people, at least top with, if not fully new, you know, all week on the beach, at the pool. the only places you really need to wear clothes is if you're in the restaurants. So we ended up closing the trip there. There's a couple of places at the resort where, you know, sex out in the open is perfectly okay.

So were you like, oh my God, the minute you get there was like, did you guys do the, like, did you guys go topless nude? Like, how far did you participate? Yeah, so it was funny. So we had, you know, we booked it months in advance. So, you know, we were, you know, doing resources. We were, you know, doing a forum online, book is all so you can, you know, read about it, ask questions, you know, whatever people are saying. So we get there and, you know, as a guy, you know, most guys,

immediately we walk through the doors, we check in. And then as soon as you're time to get out into the resort, like, people are naked immediately. So, you know, I'm looking all right. Yeah. And were they hot people? I mean, there's a lot of hot people. It's just kind of like it runs the gamut. Uh-huh.

Like all, all whole whole... Which is kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see all different shape, sizes, ages. Yeah, that is cool, I think, and interesting. Yeah. And it's cool just that people are there for, you know, there who are swindlers or some people there just like to be, you know,

nudist. Right. Some people just like, you know, like kind of a sexy environment at the place. Yeah. So you have all different types of people that are there. but when we got there we get there we check in again everyone's naked

I'm like this is awesome my wife who was my girlfriend at the time kind of freaked out it was like she knew exactly where we were going what goes on there of course right but actually being there kind of went into a panic mode it was maybe it was a little intimidating to her

yeah for sure so yeah our room wasn't ready when we got there We go to lunch We take right by the next to the pool It's like an outdoor lunch area And she, I can tell, is completely freaked out I'm sure it happens so a lot of people

Yeah, definitely So we're having lunch She's pretty much not saying anything And I'm there for a week You know, you booked it for a week And I'm thinking like, this is not good Right Because, you know, I didn't know how long

You know, long it was going to take her to get comfortable I didn't know if she would get comfortable at all. But after a while, it was like it just was like that immediate shock of being there and seeing what was going on. And at that point, we hadn't seen anything sexual going on. It was just people were naked everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that night, she kind of settled in. And, you know, we were on the beach that day, you know, late that day after we checked into our room.

And, you know, we're both completely naked on the beach, you know, going in the water laying out. Oh, so she loosened up fast. Yeah, yeah. which was, you know, it was growing as far as I was concerned, because it would have been along with that way. Right, right, right. So she, so by that, and listen, I've been to nude beach. I went to a new beach with my, I had one boyfriend when I was super young,

and I found that, like, once you got into it and you got kind of, like, naked in front of other people, it was, like, kind of like, like, a turn on, right? Like, you're just, like, kind of out there doing something, especially if you've never done it before, right? So, like, once she sort of, like, let her guard down, was she she got into it kind of yeah she got very comfortable and you know then you know obviously they had been some things and we went to dinner and then at desire every night there's

they have a there's like an on-site like nightclub yeah or disco so every night there's a different theme and you know we prepared for that like different outfits for the different team nights and things like that so um you know we went to the club that night and you know whatever the theme was that night you know but wait the first day did you guys bump into people having sex like did you see that whole section or did that come later in the week? So that came that night. Okay. So you're at the club.

Yeah. So there's two places that desire where like open sex is perfectly, okay. At the disco, off of the disco there's a playroom. Uh-huh. You know, it basically has, you know, a bunch of, it's not even a, I don't know what you would call. It's not a bed, but it's just like a bunch of cushioning areas where people can go in. You know, they're getting out of work.

Yeah. And there's a playroom where people can. go and have sex or do whatever you want. Yeah. And then there's a rooftop jacuzzi area at Desire that, you know, at the hot tub area, it's a big hot tub and there's a bar right there. Anywhere up there in the jacuzzi, there's, you know, jacuzzi beds all around there.

That's another place where you can, you know, have... Go in and get that, right. Perfectly fine. Like, if you're on the beach, you're not supposed to be naked, but you're not supposed to have sex. So this is all like in the brochure or something? Like, you know the shit up ahead of time, right? It's not like on the down low. I mean, this is the stuff that they let you know.

Oh, yeah. Okay, cool. You go on your website and it'll say exactly like what the place is like. You know, what you do. So how do they do it with alcohol? Because I always felt like if there's alcohol involved, then sex kids. Like, I mean, there, is it like you're allowed to be drinking alcohol and having sex in public at the same place? Yeah.

So the thing with desire is, there's a different resource like this temptations is another one. Uh-huh. The thing with desire is it's couples only. Uh-huh. They do one month. They do one month a year. year where singles are allowed, but you have to be traveling with a couple. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure. Uh-huh. But otherwise, it's couples only. So it's not so much that you're worried about, you know, just a bunch of single people around, a single guy's, like being inappropriate or things like that. So I think, again, it's Mexico. I don't know what the lies are. Yeah, maybe it's different rules.

I don't know, because my friend worked in a swingers club here and, like, it would have to be bring your own because they couldn't sell alcohol and have naked people. You know, there's, like, different rules and regulations like that. So, oh, yeah, you're in Mexico. So anyway, who cares about my question? People are probably like, shut the fuck up, Kathy. Let them go on. Okay, so you go into, do you guys hook up?

Like, do you guys go in that room? I'm assuming you do, right? Yep. So that night, we went to the disco. Again, at that point we both on the, even though it's the first day, you know, we've been there for a half the day and we're kind of settled in,

kind of get a feel of different places like. We're in the disco dancing, hanging out. You know, you see just sexy people everywhere. So we end up going into the playroom off of the disco and we end up not playing with anyone but you know we're on the you know bedded area or whatever you want to call it you know next to people and we end up fucking like you know right next to some other people there was like two couples next to us that I'm assuming they were swapping or you know yeah they're fucking you know we're walking them and then we're

hooking up um with each other but you know keeping to ourselves but still it was a like incredibly hot environment. Yeah, plus because that's like the whole, I mean, I'm sure at this point, you had never, like not only are you seeing other people do it in front of you. Now you guys are doing it in front of people. So that's the whole exhibitionist thing that you have going on. Yeah, and that was really hard. So like, you know, like we get naked and like she starts blowing me

and then like I'm fucking her. You know, like you can hear the people next you and we can go over and watch them. Yeah, yeah. So that was day one. So, yeah, that was, it was great that we kind of settled in right away. Uh-huh, yeah. She got past her a freakout moment. Yeah.

Okay. So, I mean, as far as it goes, like, you know, the week kind of played off the same. You know, we ended up doing the same type of thing up in the jacuzzi area, around the jacuzzi beds, like, you know, having sex. And it's like the type of place where it's just what goes on there. So it's not like if you're having sex on the jacuzzi bed, even though there's people all around, it's not like people are standing around watching you people are busy hanging out so far as and drinking you know people

might be looking over and seeing what's going on but right like a crowd forms around you yeah yeah yeah just watching you like that just because the stuff going on all over the places yeah it's not like a big deal uh-huh which is cool yeah you know um so yeah did you guys that first trip did you guys wind up hooking up with other people or on that whole trip did you guys just kind of keep to yourself and do the whole thing where you filled around in front of other people and watched. Yeah, so that we didn't end up. We've been there twice actually at this point. Neither time that we hooked up with anyone else. And I mean, part of it is just because as much as, like, we love the idea that we're also, you know, want to be safe with things. And, you know,

you're going there and, you know, you'd like to thank everyone's safe, but you don't know that. Yeah. You know, so it's tough to just, you know, oh, let's hook, you know, these people are sexually. We're talking to them, like, let's just hook up. But, you know, of course, you can use condoms and this and that, but. But I would assume, okay, I don't know how hot. I mean, a lot of times, I used to ask people all the time. I forget a lot, but, like, how, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hot are you guys? I don't know.

Maybe like sixes. Okay, but because I'm just thinking, well, I'm thinking, like, you know, you're there, right? So do you wind up making friends with other people and other people, like, sort of make passes at you guys? And then do you turn them down or, like, how does that work? because I would assume if you're in that environment and you're hanging out that you would wind up making friends of people, then since everyone knows what everyone's there for, like people would like sort of maybe make an attempt to hook up with you guys.

Did anything like that happen? Yeah, and definitely not the first time. And again, it's just because where it's lifestyle friendly, there are definitely people there, and that's what they're there for us to have a lot of, you know, hook up. Right, but not everybody is. Right. Yeah, but not everyone is.

There are people there who just like to go. They love being mom. because it's such like a sexy. Right, but I wonder how people know, like, I guess maybe you could just get a vibe from people, right? It's probably all unspoken, just like the regular bar scene, right? Because, like you go into that place and like you said, some people are new to some people are like you guys where they're like just beginning

and maybe they just want to sort of sit back and watch and not do anything. You know, so it's like how do couples know, right? Like, you know, for the ones that do want to sort of hook up with other people, you know, how do they know? So I was just wondering if you had any awkward experiences where people sort of made a pass and you guys were like not interested. No, like we definitely talked with other people. Yeah.

Everyone's friendly and again, you know, just that type of environment. Everyone's there to have a good time. Yeah. You know, we're like in the hot tub like hanging out like not even at that time playing with each other just enjoying ourselves. You know, you're in Mexico. The weather's amazing. Yeah.

And then, you know, just to the left of us is, you know, a girl who's like going down a line and like sucking three different guys off. You know what I mean? So you see. you see someone like that and you're going to know, all right, they're down. Yeah. Right. You kind of look out for that thing, whereas if you see a couple kind of, you know,

off to themselves and maybe just observing it for, you know, someone else who's looking on might not. Or it might lead them to think, oh, you know, those people might not be ready for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that whole time, though, the whole time, both times that you've went, and you guys have just done the whole thing where you guys watch and do it yourselves in front of people. But that's hot enough. I mean, some people wouldn't even do that. So that was like a big step forward into things, considering

you guys were people that had never done anything before. And so when did you start making profiles online and then did she start meeting with like, because I know that you said you prefer couples, right? But did it start off with her with a woman or did you start

off like the first time you guys hooked up with other people? Was it a couple? Yeah, so the first, it was like a year and a half into our relationship that we created the online profile and started like, you know, browsing around and seeing, like, who was in our area and things like that. I know because you sent me an email sort of detailing stuff that you, you know, eventually like she, you, you really wind up liking to seeing her like fuck other guys and, you know, you wind up with guys too. So, like, when you make that initial profile, is it just strictly that you guys are looking for a woman because she's going to hook up? Or at this point a year and a half into it, have you just started talking about all these other?

things that you guys got into? No, so at that point we created the profile and it was like I was looking straight male vicarious female very new to this whole thing looking to meet other couples and just kind of

you know, we're not looking to dive into anything but very interested in the lifestyle a lot of people will call it. Okay, cool. So you guys were kind of open to swapping and doing different things, right? I mean it wasn't like, oh, you were just looking for her to hook up with a girl.

Right. Okay. And at that point, well, so again, when we were, early on when we were dating, we probably looked separate for, I don't know, two, two and a half years before we moved in together. So, you know, we would go back and forth between each other's places. And at one point before, I think it was probably after we had created our profile, but before we had done anything with any other couples or anything like that, she, like, told me one time she's that she had a fantasy of me.

I had a woman that lived next door to me. And she had a fantasy of watching me fuck my neighbor. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, you know, again, that was, of course, I'm saying like, oh, like, is that something that you would want to see? Like, would you want to see me fuck someone else? And she's like, you know, I think so.

Like, you know. Obviously. That's a yes. In theory, like, it's really hard and it turns me on. But, you know, you have the whole jealousy factor. She's like, I don't know if in reality. like it's something I could handle but like I love the idea of it. Yeah, yeah, that's great.

You hit the jackpot. Yeah, right. And that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, no wonder why you put a ring on it like you said before, right? That's the girl you locked it, lock it down with. Yeah, right. So when we created the profile, again, it wasn't just specifically, you know, my girlfriend's

looking to hook up with another woman. It was just, you know, hey. You're open, right. Yeah, right. Kind of open to a, whatever's out there. So we did find another couple that was in our area that didn't look too far from us at all. I started a child at home and we had seen some pictures.

And then we just arranged to meet them for drinks. So much need to know each other. So we met them out for drinks. And they at the time were kind of in a symbol. They were married already in a very similar stage as us. They hadn't really done anything yet. We're kind of just looking to see what's out. there and kind of explore the possibilities of playing with another couple or something.

And were they around your age? Were they like six is two or were they hotter or like what were there? What was their do? Kind of the same? Yeah, they were yeah, kind of the same. There were maybe a couple of years younger than us. Uh-huh. Looks wise, pretty close.

You know, pretty close. It wasn't. Right. But you guys found them attractive. Yeah. Yeah. So how did the first meeting go? like anything else like the first meeting was a little awkward but you know we ended up chatting for a while we had drinks and just you know you get into initially you're just trying to get to know each other a little bit and you're kind of talking about you know some of your fantasies and things like that and I think we ended up meeting them for drinks without doing anything maybe twice before we actually ended up like doing something with them uh-huh and what what did you do in whose house did you go back to I'm curious since you guys didn't live together

So at this point, so I think, like I say, I think we met with them twice. The third time, they were like, you know, do you guys want to come over at our house? We'll, you know, hang out, have some drinks, play some games, and kind of see what happens. Yeah. So we're like, yeah, that sounds great. So we go to their house and we decide to play, I think we ended up playing, like, strip cards against humanity. Uh-huh. So we kind of made our own version of that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're hanging out, drinking. We're playing that game. Clothes are starting to come off. And eventually, you know, people are, you know, getting obviously really turned on. You're hanging out with us a couple. Everyone's naked at, you know, a certain point. So then I don't know who it was, but at some point someone says, like, you want to go to the bedroom.

And everyone at that point was ready to do so. So that's where we ended up going. And again, we hadn't talked about, like, actually squatting or anything like that. Right. So we end up going to the bedroom. But for this night, it was pretty much like the two girls ended up kind of making out a little bit, you know, touching. I think they were like sucking on each other's tits a little bit. But for this first night, it was pretty much we stayed with our own partners, but we were on their bed and like fucking next to each other.

Right, right. It was kind of like same room stacks, which, again, was really hot, not having really done much like that before we had done it at just like. but this was kind of a different scenario. It was a much more private setting. Right. People we had actually gotten to know a little bit at that point. So that was what we did that first night. And again, it was like a really hot experience and, you know, something that led us to be like,

okay, like that was fine. And, you know, the beyond like kissing and kind of touching a little, you know, the girls didn't do anything more than that, but they kind of set up the next time we ended up playing with them. And then what happened then? So the next time actually didn't end up being for a little while. The week after that, I think it was the week after that, we arranged to meet them at like a local swingers club in the area. Yeah.

So we met them there while like hanging out. And then they like disappeared for a while. We were walking around, just kind of checking out everything else that was going on there. And then we walked by a room and we saw them hooking up with other people, which like immediately turned my, again, my wife, my girlfriend at the time, turned her off at the time. You know, it's just like new experience and it kind of like freaked her out. Yeah. And, you know, we still want to be, you know, make sure we're safe and things like that.

And it just really turned her off at the time. Right. So, you know, that happened. We, you know, didn't stay around much longer after that left. She was kind of bothered by the whole. because they didn't say again we were kind of on the same level as far as our experience at the time and they hadn't said anything about you know not like we were going to be exclusive with them but we thought we were kind of kind of going at the same pace together yeah of course and when we you know when we saw that it kind of freaked my girlfriend out and then you know we got home we talked about it and she was like I don't you don't know if I want to do anything with them anymore like who knows what they're doing basically yeah I had another couple that experienced that kind of a thing and it's like because you need a lot of trust in that kind of situation especially if you want to stay clean and stuff but you know it makes a lot of sense that it would

freak her out you know yep um so you know we see me ended up talking on the phone with the other wife um you know a couple of days later and was just like you know i really liked you and not like not like i really liked you how could you do that to me type of thing but just kind a little confused as to like, you know, being new to the whole scene, like, what's going on? I thought you guys were, like, kind of taking a slow as well as we were. And so it was probably a couple, three months before we ended up, like, hanging out with them again. Uh-huh. And it was just, you know, like, I would say to her, like, look, people are in, you know, the, you know, our swingers are in the lifestyle.

They're not looking to just be exclusive with, like, one other person and one other couple. like it's what people do like I completely understand and I agree with her on the whole safety part yeah but it was just again everything was near to us so at the time it was just kind of talking through it and you know we got to a point I was like all right you know they were really cool like let's you know talk to them again right let's give another chance yeah it was probably like a few months later we ended up hanging out with them again we were over at their house again you were all I think We ended up putting like a porn on or something like that. Uh-huh.

We're all sitting on the couch. Like, you know, we've been having some drinks. You have a, you know, there's a porn on. And at that point, like, everyone's getting turned on. And the two women start, like, making out. And, like, then at that point, they're, like, going into each other's pants, rubbing each other's pussies. And, of course, the two of us guys are looking at each other, like, wow, this is awesome.

Yeah. You know, so it got to the point where everyone was really worth. up and again it was like all right like enough of this like let's move to the bedroom so we go to the bedroom and we had talked in one of the things that we always do with each other is like before we whether we're going over a party or an event of some sort or just like meeting out another couple going into it we talked about like all right like what are you comfortable with like what are you looking to do like if this happens are you okay with that so we try to kind of set the seen for each other as a couple.

Yeah. And then any time afterwards, we always kind of debrief with each other. You know, what did you think? You think it was hard. Like, were you okay with this? We're okay with that. What would you do next time? Which is, you know, good to keep the communication open and just make sure for us,

because, you know, that's the most important thing is a couple that we're comfortable with everything that's going on. And, you know, the other people are fun. And it's great to have those experiences. Yeah, for sure. So we don't want anything to, you know, mess up what we have. Mm-hmm. So we end up going into the bedroom and they talked about at this point, you know, we were okay with like a soft swap.

So which would basically be like everything but fucking the other couple. Yeah. Or fucking the other, you know, partner. Yeah. And that's basically what happened that night. So the bedroom, the two women started kissing and making out and touching. And then it was actually funny too because when my girlfriend or wife's wife's girlfriend at the time had told me that she, had always fantasized about being with another woman.

She had also said that she always, like, she always thought about having another woman go dawn on her, but she couldn't go do it herself. She didn't know if she could do, like, yeah, like, reciprocate. And even going into this night, she, like, just thought that's just, she didn't know if she could do that. So at first, the other wife starts going down on her and, like, you know, again, the two guys we're watching and it's like, this is really hot, you know, and we're, you know, you know, you know, kissing them and, like, sucking on their tits and, like, touching them and this and that.

And then they swapped positions, and my wife goes down on her, and she, like, dove in. And I can tell, like, she was really getting into it. Right, right. So much for that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, she's really into it. And, like, she was, like, going to town on her, which was so hot, you know, for me to watch. Right.

And then so that led to we ended up kind of swapping partners. and I'm making out with the other wife and I end up laying back and both of the women are like sucking my cock then they take turns and switch and they're sucking his cock and then and now at this point like you didn't I guess you just because I know that she

sort of expressed her interest in seeing you with somebody else I mean you were I guess totally cool with her fooling around like I mean did you know that that was something that you were going to be into as well um it was one of those things where like I didn't know how I would react.

Yeah. We talked about it and it was like, well, if you don't, we won't know until we try it. Right. We had agreed with that. Like, you know, let's see what happens. If it freaks either of us out, well, we'll just stop. Right. We don't have to do it again.

Okay, cool. If we don't try it, then we don't know. So that type of thing. Mm-hmm. So even that first time, like, you know, watching her suck his cock, it was like, that was kind of indifferent to it at the time. Like, I've sensed, like, learned, not learned, but I do enjoy it at this point, but that first time.

It didn't bother me. It wasn't like I loved it either. It was just like whatever. Like it was hot just the whole scene going on. Yeah. I didn't have a strong feeling one way or the other. Uh-huh. You know, so everyone like she's going down on him.

Like I'm going down on his wife. Then he's going down on my girlfriend. And, you know, like so all that's going on. And that was kind of how that night played off. And then we, you know, we ended up getting back to each other's partners. You know, it's kind of the same as the first time. Like we fucked. you know, right next to them.

And that was how that night went. That's a great night. Yeah, it was a good time. For you guys. Yeah, so that was how that night went. Did you stay in contact with them? Did you hook up with them a bunch of times after that? No, so they kind of accelerated there, you know, kind of what they were looking for.

And so this is kind of not an important thing, but. So I learned, I think, I don't know if it was that night or at some point before, but the husband of that couple was either bisexual or bi-curious. Yeah. So the second time we hooked up with him when we swapped, soft-swapped, at one point he, like, says to me, he's like, you're straight, right? And I was like, yeah, because he wanted to, like, go down on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and again, it wasn't even something I had, like, considered at that point. And, you know, wasn't interested in it. And he didn't push it beyond that. I was like, yeah. And he was like, yeah, and he was looking to, you know, kind of take it there. Right. So they found somebody that was into that. Is that what happened?

Yeah. Right. Yeah. And just like in general, like, you know, what they were looking to get into and things like that just kind of blew past where we were comfortable with at that point. So we've stayed in touch with them. And even now, like every once in a while, like, we'll like exchange messages. We're saying, oh, like, hey, what's going on? But we haven't really played with them.

much since then it's been a long time right just you know you kind of depending on what you're comfortable with kind of go your separate ways uh-huh cool so did you eventually find somebody else because when do you then decide to is it the next couple that you're with that you decide to sort of go to the other side yourself because eventually you do wind up well hook him yeah no so it was um so again we're not super active yeah far as swinging um and And, you know, again, a lot of it, I think, comes down to the safety project. We like to get to know people before we really play with them. Right.

You know, we've known couples or you just see couples on the different sites or online that, you know, they'll go out every weekend. And it's just like, you know, another number. You know, they're going to go out. They want to hook out with someone. And they'd be perfectly fine with a different couple or a different person every weekend. Yeah. That's just not really our style. Yeah.

So, you know, we had some other times where we've met people out. everything seemed fine. There was one couple we met out, went to dinner with them. Everything seemed great. We planned to meet them at a club, you know, in a couple of weeks or whatever it was. You know, we've been texting between our dinner date and when we're going to meet them. And this was going to be the first time we were planning to actually full swap. So where we were swapping, like, fuck each other's spouses.

Yeah. So that was huge for us. And, you know, we had talked between ourselves, my girlfriend and I at the time, you know, are we ready for this? We both said, yep, you know, let's try it. You know, we're, you know, kind of ready for it. You get to the club. You know, we see them there, chat for a minute, and then they go there all the time. We went every once in a while, but not that often. So they, like, knew a lot of people there and had friends there. And so we go there thinking, like, this is the night. We're going to post a lot, because it's going to be amazing. Yeah.

We get there. We talk to them for a few minutes, and then they kind of just went about probably what their regular routine is, talking with everyone else. but they know, and it just never happened that night. Uh-huh. Which, again, was kind of a turnoff because we thought, like, they knew we hadn't full swap before. We had talked about doing it that night, so we thought it was going to be more of, like, you know, paying attention to each other. Let's get a room.

Like, let's do what we talked about doing. Right. It just didn't pan out that way. So it was a huge disappointment for us because it was. You had a buildup. Yeah, for sure. We're finally going to do it. Yeah, and it's not like it's just, it's not like you guys are open to being

with just anyone. I mean, you put your time into these people. Yeah. Yeah. So based on that experience, it's not like we decided, well,

we're not going to full swap with anyone, but we kind of wrote them off because it was just kind of, I don't know, rude to the right word, but again, it wasn't like it was,

we said, we'll meet you there and, you know, maybe we'll see you. It was like, you made a plan. Yeah, we had made a plan,

and it was like, they flaked out. They flaked, yeah. Mm-hmm. So it didn't work out. night it was it was still a while before there was actually like um like a kind of a so let me say the so that didn't happen but eventually i mean you get a guy you get a single guy when did that

happen so jump ahead probably a couple of years well in between this we had a threesome with another female, which it was kind of a soft swap. Like, I didn't fuck her just because my, at that time, my girlfriend, again, we weren't married yet. We're on the fence. She wasn't sure if she was ready to see it yet. She hadn't had sex with another guy yet. And we ended up, you know, being in, you know, they both went down on me.

We both went down on her. You know, it was a fuck night, but I didn't fuck her. So at that point, we still hadn't actually seen each other fuck someone else. Yeah. And then we actually became friends with this girl, but she got into our relationship, so that whole situation kind of went away. And that didn't happen. So, you know, kind of fast forward probably a couple of years at that point.

And, you know, again, we had, you know, met some other people, you know, gone to the club, played a little bit, but we still hadn't full swapped with anyone and, like, actually seen each other fuck someone else. Yeah. And but you guys aren't, and you wanted to do it. Yeah. So then last year. We were at a club, and it was kind of, we went into, like, one of the open playrooms where, you know, some rooms are private.

You shut the door, and it's just, you know, it could be you and your girlfriend or wife or whatever it might be, or you might go in there with another couple. Yeah. And then there's some other areas that are more of an open playroom where, you know, there might be multiple people in there. You know, people could kind of watch it a little bit if they want. So we go in there, and this went against our always play safe thing. It ended up being, like, a really hot night. And, you know, afterwards, like, oh, shit, like, we shouldn't have done that, but it was still really hot. Yeah.

So we go into this room, you know, we were both, you know, just really turned on from, you know, seeing what else was going on there that night. We climbed onto this big bed, and there was one other couple in there. Mm-hmm. At the time, you know, they were kind of already playing. I think the guy was going down on the girl or something like that. We kind of climb on the bed next to them, and we're doing our thing. I'm going down on my wife. and after a little while, the woman from the other couple just kind of reaches out her hand and starts, like, squeezing my wife's tits.

And she has big tits, so I could see how they would, you know, someone would be drawn to them. Yeah, yeah. And again, at that point, you're, it's such like a hot environment that it's like, all right, like, whatever. Yeah, you're in the moment. Yeah, you're kind of in the moment. Yeah. So she's squeezing her tits a little bit. And then I think the guy from the other couple was like, is that okay?

And we were both like, yeah, that's fine. So she's squeezing their tits a little bit. And then eventually my wife moves and she starts going down on me. So I'm laying down on the bed. She's sucking me off. And then the woman from the other couple kind of slides over and is like, can I help you with that? And she starts, like, joins my wife and both of them starts sucking me up. Mm-hmm.

And this is like the first time because you don't even know these people. This is like the random couple. Yeah. Don't know them. Don't know their names. And again, normally it's something that we wouldn't do. But again, you got kind of caught up in the moment. Yeah.

So that's going on. Obviously, I'm like, wow, this is really hot. He's, the other guys, you know, watching for a little bit. I think he's, like, sucking on my wife's tits or something like that. And then my wife moves over to him. stops going down on him his I don't know if it was

a girlfriend, wife friend or whatever it was she's going down on me and then kind of we swap I'm like starting to go down on her and I'm eating her out and I'm watching my wife suck this guy's cock and he had like this

he like a really thick cock and it was something about watching her do this that this is like the first time that like something in my head was like it was like I almost wanted to join her like there was just something about right and that was the first time that you ever felt that was the first time and that's interesting it's not like you hadn't seen

all that shit before like you were around a lot of the stuff that you would think it would have happened earlier but all of a sudden at that time yeah whatever it was it was just something like whatever it was something about it that I was like like it just looked so hot I was like I almost want to join her like suck him with her Yeah, uh-huh.

Didn't do it. You know, that's not something you just kind of dive into, like he might have been completely freaked out. Yeah. And I didn't even like, it wasn't even like I was thinking like, I'm going to go do this. It was just in my head. I was like, that's really hot. Yeah.

I almost want to join us. So anyway, like, so we're playing. And then eventually I can see that like they're getting, you know, he's really turned on the other guy. again, we're kind of going back and forth with him with his partner or what he was with. And, you know, she's sucking me off. I'm eating her out. And then I could, I don't know if I heard him say, like, can I fuck you or something like that?

But I could tell, like, he really wanted to, like, he was really turned on by my wife and he wanted to fuck her. And she looks over at me and I just kind of gave her a nod. Like, you know, we've talked about this. And, like, I'm perfectly fine with it if you want it. Right. Yeah. So she said yes, and, you know, he gets a condom, you know, puts it on, and he starts fucking her. So this is the first time I'm actually, like, seeing someone else fuck her. Yeah.

And how was that for you? It was, like, it was really hot. Like, I was really turned down by it. And, yeah, it was, like, there was no jealousy at all. It was, you know, again, we had, you know, talked about it. We were comfortable with it. It was just, like, a really hot scene. And, like, you know, just seeing her.

you know, you know, get fucked by someone else, like it was just a lot. Like, it was nothing about it that bothered me at all. Right. And so, you would think that I would just start then fucking, like, his partner, but that just never happened. And it wasn't even that she, I asked her and she said no.

Like, it just never, I don't know, it just never came up, really. Like, we continued to play. But it just never, you know, led to that. Right. So that was, like, the first thing is, like, that night, like someone, she fucked someone else and, you know, obviously I played with her, the other partner, but we didn't end up doing a full swap on the other side.

Yeah. Which is fine. It wasn't like I got home and I was like, well, what the hell? Like, you got to fuck someone else. It was, like, it was just a really hot experience that whole night. Mm-hmm. So that was fun. And then did you tell her about that thought that you had?

Because that's what happens. Like, you wind up telling her before you wind up hooking it with a guy, right? And then she lets you know that she's into it. Yeah, so I didn't say anything. I think I kind of forgot about it. Like, I didn't say anything that night or right away. It was probably, like, two or three weeks later, like, I had a dream kind of almost, like, re-envisioning that scenario. Yeah.

And in the dream, like, I actually joined her and, like, both was sucking him off. And when I woke up from that dream, like, I was, like, rock hard. Mm-hmm. And when I woke up, I was like, what the fuck was that? You know, basically? Yeah. but I was really turned on by like the whole scenario and like the idea of it. So, you know, again, knowing she had told me, you know, very early on in our relationship that she wanted to experience being with another woman.

Like, it's not like I was afraid to tell her, but it's still kind of a big deal to just come out and pay it. Yeah. It's like, you know, we have a very open relationship in the sense of, you know, being honest with each other and talking about fantasy. So I was like, I'm like, I tell her, like, what happened and like how I was feeling. and just put it out there and, you know, see what she says. So I told her the next morning, I was like, oh, like I had this dream last night. You know, it was like the scenario from a few weeks ago. And like, I joined you and I was sucking that guy's cock with you.

And she was like, oh, wow. She's like, and like, how does that make you feel? And I'm like, I don't know. Like, it was really hot. Like, I woke up and my cock was really hard. And she's like, wow. And she's like, because that's something like you'd think you'd really want to do. And I said to her like, I said to her like,

I don't know, like I think I might want to try it. Yeah. And she was like, well, if you want to try it, like, let's try it then. Like, you know, I shouldn't be the only person that, you know, gets to play with those sexes. Like, let's do it if you want to try it. Mm-hmm. Which was, like, awesome.

Obviously, like, that's the response that you would hope to get. Yeah, totally. So then at that point, it was like, all right, well, again, I've been on the different sites and things like that. So it was all right, well, let's try to, you know, get another couple or just a single guy. like let's try to find you know that person right yeah yeah um so we start to explore that a little bit and end up um online like chatting with this guy and it was a single guy you know not from a couple and you know he was interested in like i don't even know that he would identify as like bisexual

a vicarious, but he was, like, open to the idea of being shared by a couple. Yeah. And, you know, we kind of told them what we were looking for, and he was, like, open to that and, you know, willing to, you know, explore something like that. So we, you know, kind of the same type of thing, like, let's meet first, see if, you know, we all get along, good fit. And we ended up meeting him out for drinks. And that first night that we met him out for drinks, we ended up going back to our place.

And that was the first night that it actually happened where I, you know, tried sucking cock for the first time. And how do you like it? So the, so we get home and, you know, I opened a bottle of wine or something when we got home. But it didn't take long. We knew obviously what we were there for. And I was like, let's start, like, taking some clothes off. He stacks him and my wife start making out. And then, you know, he takes all of his clothes off.

And he has a pretty big cock, which, you know, again, I've never been the one. one, you know, who's like, doesn't want to see a cock, like, you know, appreciate a good-looking cock. And it's like, wow, like, his cock is huge, most of the mind. And, you know, so he had a great-looking cock. My wife gets down, he's sitting on our couch. My wife gets down on her knees, and, like, I kind of get on the floor next to her, and she starts going down on him, and, you know, watching her.

And, you know, I've seen her do that at that point. So, again, very hot still. and then she like you know takes his cock and like tilted towards me and then I start going down and sucking his cock and you know that was the first time I had done that and it was I mean it was strange obviously first time I had done it I had actually between the time I had told her that I wanted to right and actually doing it like no we have toys and things like that so I kind of practiced a little bit on like some of the dildos that we have yeah You know, I wanted to make sure I could do a decent job. Yeah, totally. And, you know, so I started going down on him. It was probably for, like, maybe five minutes that I went down on him. And, you know, I asked him after the thought.

And he was like, no, like, it felt really good. Like, you know, you had a good technique or you did a good job or whatever. But it was probably just for, like, five minutes or so that I sucked him. We ended up going upstairs to our bedroom. He fucked her. You know, I fucked her. You know, it was like, it was just a regular threesome at that point. You know, we both end up coming on her.

So it was a fun night. You know, I kind of got that first experience out of the way. And, you know, it was really hot. But it was afterwards. And, you know, she says to me, like, what did you think? You know, it was like, I didn't really know at that point. It was like the type of thing where I didn't, it wasn't like, oh, I love it. I want to do it again.

It wasn't like, I, that was gross. I hated it. That was kind of just. Again, kind of indifferent and not really sure what to make of it. But I said to her, I think I want to try it again. Like, you know, it was almost like getting the nervousness out of the way of that first experience. And I want to try it again. And I think that would be a better way to tell if it's something that I'm actually into

or if it's just like, you know, seem like a good idea in theory, but, you know, not really into it. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah. So you go back to the same guy? Yeah. So we kept in touch with him. We made plans.

It was probably a couple of months later. Everyone's busy and things like that. A couple of months later, we ended up going over to his place. And going into this one, I basically said to my wife and I had said to him, because of messaging back and forth and things like that, that I wanted to kind of really get into it this time. and I wanted to like basically finish him off myself

and they were both you know perfectly okay with that like they wanted to give me a chance like kind of really get into it so we did that we went over to his place like this night he didn't even end up fucking my wife you know they were like kissing a little bit early on and then he gets his clothes off

like I go down and start sucking him and the first night we played when he took his I ended up taking his clothes off. He was like already rock hard at that point. Whereas the second night that we played, he wasn't. Like we just got to his house. Like, you know, it wasn't like we had at the whole chat before where we went

up for drinks and that. We just showed up and it was basically we were showing up going to do this and like that was it that night. Yeah. So he takes his clothes off and again, he has a big talk, but it wasn't hard at this point, which I almost wanted at that. I wanted it to not be hard because just,

the experience of kind of taking it grow. Yeah, and like failing them grow in my mouth and like getting him hard from sucking him. So I start sucking him and then as I'm doing that, like him and my wife are like making out. And like she's actually taking some pictures and things like that. And then so I'm sucking him for a while. Like he's getting rock hard at that point. We switch and my wife starts going down on him and I'm like taking pictures of her and things like that. And so she was doing it for probably, you know, five minutes or so.

And then she, we switched back. And then for like the rest of the time, like, I just sucked him, you know, until he was ready to come. And he ended up coming in my mouth, which is what I wanted. Like, I wanted to at least experience that. Mm-hmm. Which was really hot. Like, you know, I guess just to be able to, you know, do that. Obviously, again, I'd always been fascinated by the act of it and seeing women do it.

And it was like, you know, I want to be able to be able to do that. I want to be able to do the job myself and make sure I do, you know, do it to completion. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, it was really hot. Like, so I end up sucking him. He comes in my mouth. You know, I showed it to my wife. And I swallowed it.

And then at that point, like, my dick was rock hot. And, like, I reached down and, like, felt my dick. And it was, like, the precom just had, like, been dripping all down. It was, like, I don't know, like, just from the whole experience. Yeah. Like, it was just cored. so then my wife starts going down on me do the guy do anything with you or was he strictly like a receiver

yeah no just a receiver yeah so my wife starts going but you said also to me that you were like really good at deep throating I mean is this the oh did you learn that with this guy or were there guys after him so he this is the only one so far right right all right because we're so close we're like right I learned that, yeah, during my practice rounds, like doing with the dildos and things like that, I learned that I was able to do it easily. Yeah, and I was able to do it on him, you know, to be able to take him, you know, all the way down my throat. You know, which makes me going forward in the future, again, you know, he had a pretty big car because it is, but, you know, I look forward to, you know, coming across someone even bigger just to see, you know, what I can actually. Yeah, maybe that's your.

thing and that's why it never came up before like you needed to see the really big ones but I'm sure you did I don't know because that's what really triggered you with that one guy right and then this guy was really big like you just might be a size king I'm like that's really good now let me ask you this did your wife did it

like I'm assuming because she's like taking pictures and stuff like that as she wind up it's like a turn on for her as well not just that she allows you to do it but like it's something that turns around to see you with other guys too yeah like she she she thought was well

hot and again you know she's taking pictures taking some video um and she found it um to be really hot so um you know she's all for like continuing that and you know as we continue to explore with other people and you know it's kind of more what we're it just kind of opens up the possibilities now as far as playing with other couples oh yeah that's like full swap city right because it's like everything goes now there's no sort of barrier right because she's into girls you're into guys, you're both into swapping. Yeah, and at this point, like, like my main, all the thing that interests me the most

as far as, you know, women, you know, whatever, like I love women. Yeah. That would be happy to fuck other women, go down on them, all that. With guys at this point, it's pretty much just going down on them that is like my main interest. Again, just something about sucking cock that, you know, is really what interests me.

Yeah. Them going down on me, I'd be open to it, but it's not like it's not what I'm looking for because I could have a woman go down right right right suck away what I mean yeah yeah totally that's what you like yeah so again I'm open to that but it's not like what I'm out looking for and then anything beyond that is you know I'm not at that point I'm like ready to be like having actual sex with guys or them with me like that's not really something I'm interested in did you continue seeing that guy or was it only a two-time thing well so this was just like

in the past, I don't know, four or five months or so. Oh, okay. So we're still in touch. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we're still in touch, but that was the last time that you guys hooked up. Yeah. Let me ask you this.

Would anybody, like, is this a total secret thing that you and your girl do? Does she tell some of her friends? Do you tell people? Like, does anybody know about this besides the other people that you've met? Like, is this something that people would be shocked to find out? Or do you know? Yeah. Nobody knows.

For sure. No, I mean, one of our friends knows we went to desire, but just as like, you know, we went to this clothing optional resort, you know, nothing beyond that. Yeah. Not what we did there or anything like that. But yeah, otherwise, it's completely no one, you know, knows, you know, anything about our extracurricular activities.

And let me ask you this. Do you ever, like, have you ever bumped into anyone that you know at these places of, like you're, like, or on these websites or anything? Like, you ever have anything? Like, because that's what I would always be afraid of, like, what if I see someone I know, you know? you know because like you're in your area doing your thing right i don't know yeah but no one's nothing's ever no one's ever found out or you've never seen any people you know no like we've

never seen anyone we've known like out at a club or anything like that in our area even in the websites like i would have thought at this point like yeah i'm across the profile of someone that i do yeah because you're looking in your area right it's not like yeah like a lot of people will like do this stuff but they will do it like you know the next state over just because they want to completely because they're like me they would be afraid right right yeah but you guys so maybe all your people in your area are like or no because you're looking in your area so with other people just like you so you have i know you that you said you have another couple that you're in contact with so you're looking to do that and now the new couple that you guys have looked up with are

they super open to to everything so most likely this would be a full-on swap yeah so there's a couple that we're actually talking with now and we haven't met them in person yet with them in person with them soon, but they're very new to actually, like, swinging, I guess you would say. Yeah. The husband only recently told his wife that, like, you know, he had a desire to, like, suck cock and, you know, that went well. You know, kind of a similar experience. Like, she was like, oh, like, all right.

And she actually went out in front of them a guy. To, you know, play with so that he could actually, you know, try sucking cock. And they did that. and, you know, which I thought was pretty awesome that she went out and found a guy for them. Yeah, but they haven't done the other kind of swapping, but they're open to that, right? Yeah, and they're very interested and, you know, kind of intrigued by that at this point. So they're, you know, kind of how we were at the beginning. You know, they want to kind of take baby steps and start out slow,

but are definitely looking to the point where they do a full swap. And, you know, we're, again, a very kind of relaxed couple in the sense that we're not like, you know, unless you guys want a full swap, we're all set. You know, we'll go at whatever pace that they want to go at. And one of our things is we're always interested in finding people that, you know, we could actually be friends with, you know, and whether we're actually hooking up and having sex or, you know, going out to a concert and doing something like, you know, that's the type of people that we prefer to be with. It doesn't have to just be about the sex. So they're kind of in, you know, in that same mold. and are looking to do that as well. So, yeah, they're definitely interested in, you know, playing with another couple

and, you know, the fact that we're both like, you know, you would consider, I guess, buy couples at this point, you know, it creates a lot of possibilities that could be fun. Yeah, imagine what's going to go down there. Do you picture yourself in the future maybe doing more with a guy? Um, you know, again, I would never say never, you know, I'm not ready at this point to actually, you know, be having sex with a guy. or anything like that despite, you know, we've explored pegging a little bit, my wife and I, so, you know, I've had her fingers or a dildo in my ass, and, you know, that's fun, but, you know,

to me at this point, it's fun, like, having a woman do that. And again, I would never say that, you know, I would never go that route, but it's not something I'm currently looking to explore. It's more just, like, the oral sex at this point. Right, but you never know. I think the same goes for them. With you? With you, you never know, because you seem it's just so open.

been like that if it maybe you know further down the line after doing all this stuff and if you meet the right guy and the right thing happens and you get it in your head like what you know that you're like oh that might you might you might you know you're the same person that might might might might have to yeah go on no I just I mean I mean and again you know growing up as you would say like you know I've always identified as a straight nail but again my wife and I have kind of gone down this road and it's all about just having fun and you know different things that could bring you pleasure. So, like, I don't have any hang-ups at this point.

It's like, if there's something that we want to explore that we think could be fun, you know, kind of just when we first started doing anything, it's like, well, you can try it. And if we don't like it, then we just won't do it again. Yeah, no, that's cool. It's something we have fun with, yeah. It's like if the wind blows in a certain direction one day, and all of a sudden, that's something that you want to do, you're, you'll do it.

And that's what's, that's great about you guys. I can't wait to hear your next couple stories. We'll have you on the, you know, you'll be the, we'll be the, we'll, definitely get the part too because I mean it's not like you have like you're not you'll have your next experience with this couple like who knows what happens with that but um you know people love these kinds of stories this is like a good thing because I think a lot of people I mean I do like the swingers gone wrong stories I have people that have very wrong but I mean for you for you guys it's like you guys are successful at it it's something that really works for you guys you're super

open about it you haven't had any real bad experiences really So it's just like some really interesting stories, you know, and it's great for other people to hear it. Maybe if they're looking to do it, you know, just to hear about other couples that are doing it successfully. What was the website again that people to know about that? You get all your people from? So, well, the website is swinglifestyle.com is the first one that we joined.

We've been on called Quiver. It's quiver. com. plenty of them out there. And again, some of them are regional. So depending on where you live, there might be, you know, a higher density of people in that area for that site. But, yeah, if people are interested in it is. That's where they need to go.

Yeah, go on the internet and you Google, you know, Swinger Club, or Sex Club, whatever you want, you can certainly find something in the area if it's something that you want. And if you want, they could try Desire in Mexico Riviera, right? There you go. Yeah. I would definitely recommend that. That's like paradise. Yeah, well, that was like your, that's where you guys got your start.

Yeah, for sure. You know, it's an easy place because you, like, you could just check it out, like, what you guys did. You know, you dipped your toes in the water and that kind of place. So anyway, Jason, thanks for calling in and sharing all your whole stories. I was thinking maybe you would come on with your wife. Maybe next time. Maybe next time, but either way, I definitely appreciate you having me on and let me, you know, tell us some of our experiences. And then, wait, aren't you going to do a surprise?

Because when you emailed me initially, I was like, why don't I have the both of you on you? You're like, I think I'm just going to do it without her knowing and then let her listen to it, right? You're going to let her listen to this, right? Yeah, I think I'm going to just put it on, not even say anything and see if she, because I know, you know, my voice may be off a little bit, but see if it's able to pick up on and be like, what's going on here? Yeah, okay. Well, here's my invitation to her because she's listening eventually, right? She'll hear that. See, come on the show next time and we could all talk.

Yeah, that would be fun. All right, cool. Thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. All right. Thanks, Kathy. Talk soon. Bye. Take care. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback

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