Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 248 - Jay Uses Electrical Stimulation to Get Himself Off

Episode Date: September 10, 2018

Jay calls in to talk all about how he has been using electrical stimulation to get himself off (secretly), for the past 15 years. What is electrical stimulation? How does it work? What does it actually feel like? How much does the equipment cost? Tune in to find out plus hear all about how to find the best e-stim files to "play" while e-stimming, how you can get in contact with him so he can help you build your own e-stim device, how he got his wife into bdsm and how he turned her into a submissive and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I have on a guy. What the fuck is he? name. I think David. I don't remember. Shit. Okay, anyway, I have on a guy. You'll find out his name the minute the episode starts. Um, and, uh, he calls in to talk about something that he, when he email me, he called it E-Stim, which is like electrical stimulation to like get yourself off. I knew absolutely nothing about it. I sound like a moron on this call because I ask a million questions that, because I really don't know and I don't, I don't know. I think that I know about a lot stuff. So I don't know if, like, many of you know about this thing. Um, if you're into it and you know

about it, you'll probably learn some more stuff from this guy because this guy's been doing it for about 15 years. He knows everything about it. He's also like an engineer, which I don't find out until like way later. So he knows how to build this shit. And not only does he discuss what it is, what it does for him, how he's been using it to jerk off for like I said 15 years, how it's a secret thing. His wife doesn't know about it. He also discusses, and we get to this at the end, that he can, teach you how to do it and he likes to do that so he gives a shout out at the end and i'm going to give it to you now that uh if you're interested in this whole practice this baspatory practice i learned that word from him um you can email me and i'll send your email to him and he'll hook you up he

could teach you how to make one because they're pretty expensive we talk about that he could teach you how to do it and the craziest thing which i don't know i may be maybe a maybe a repeat may be a reflection of what a bad interviewer I am because I didn't find out till like the end that he actually has done this with guys like he will go hang out with a guy and they will east him together and like I said I didn't get this out of him until like the very last five minutes and I'm like what the fuck like that's a whole other thing but so if you live in his area and add a bonus is he'll come to you and you guys could east him together same for women too so like I said if you're interested after you hear that email me at strictly not as podcast at gmail.com and i will put you in touch with

him but if you're not interested in doing it but just interested in listening to what it is what it's all about how you do it what it does to you how it feels and honestly i think people with like diabetes or any kind of like orgasm problem should probably try this out i tried to google to find out if it has been helpful to some people and i feel like i saw that it was but i didn't get anything sort of definitive but I think, you know what, if you can't have orgasms because you have nerve damage because of diabetic stuff, it's worth a fucking try, right? So take a listen.

I'll be right back on with whatever his name is. Okay. How are you doing today? I'm doing great, Kathy. Thank you very much. How about you? I'm doing good. You told me you're, like, parked in a parking lot.

All the people parked in parking lots. They're either banging and cheating in parking lots in cars or they're talking to me revealing all the, like, the dirty things that they do in their car. I just like, I can't. can't say how many people that call in or talking in their car. And I don't know why it makes me like what's funny to me about it, but it just kind of is. But anyway, you're sitting in a parking lot somewhere, right?

Yeah, you know, it is kind of perverted to what we're talking about. So it's like, well, that's what I mean. If it's not something I could talk about at home or the office. Right. So I'm just like, I just think that a lot of shit goes down. A lot of dirty stuff goes down in parking lots. I just find it funny. You know, when I drive past parking lots now when I see cars, I wonder what the fuck's going

on there you just never know right but anyway there's a couple SUVs with blacked out windows around there you go yeah there's a like there's a school teacher cheating on her husband in the back but anyway you're a guy who wrote into tell me that you're into this thing called uh it's east what is that electrical stimulation electrical is that what the e stands for it's really electro electro stimulation oh okay electro stimulation and that's like something that you do it's like a when you jerk off to get yourself off it's something you've been doing for a very long time

I've never even heard of it you said that it's like something that you used you said you've used stuff that's out there you've built your own how did you even hear about this because I don't know about it I've never heard of this electrosimulation

I know you said you've been doing it for 15 years is it something that can't I guess it's been around for a long time it. Yeah, I don't know how long it's been around. I stumbled on it back in the late 90s or the early 2000s in a Yahoo sex group. Right. And is it something that men can do only men or can women do it too? Oh, both sexes can do it, but most of what you hear and see about are men who do it. But there are women who do it. There are videos, and I'm not talking about the cheesy commercial videos made for profit. I'm talking about just people at home who make videos of themselves. There's plenty of videos of men and women.

So if people are wondering what the hell this looks like when you're talking about it, because you're going to be explaining the whole thing, because I don't know anything about it. People could Google and actually see videos of people doing this exactly what you're going to talk about and tell us that you do. Yeah, they could, but they better look for the amateurs because the stuff that's on, you know, the commercial porn websites. Is bullshit? Yeah. Yeah, it's just acting. So what is electrostimulation? It's like a way to get yourself off. Because you said, I think, in the email that like you're not even, you could use this sort of apparatus thing that you use, right?

And you don't even have to touch yourself to have an orgasm. So this thing I'm assuming is giving you some sort of shocks or something or whatever and getting you to actually come, right, without you even touching yourself. Yeah, it's not really a shock in the sense that people think about shock. It's more like tingling your nerves. on your cock or your anus or someplace like that, your ass. And now you said that you put them all over your body. Do you just put them in your genital area, or do you put them in different places

and that still affects your genital area? Like, you know, because I would just think that, you know, who knows? Like, because, I mean, we've all, like, fooled around and, like, someone will go down on your armpit and you're like, holy shit, like, why do I feel that down there? I mean, like, there's things that are all connected, right? Like, I feel like, probably. there's stuff that's connected, but like is it something where like you put it in different parts of your body and you feel it in your dick or does it all go on your dick?

No, the first thing is I don't put anything above my weights because it's not very safe to do that. You know, if you've got a bad heart or any kind of a heart condition, maybe if you don't, depending on how you crank it up, you could probably induce some kind of cardiac arrhythmia. So the first rule of safety is no stemming above. the waist. Oh, okay. So everything is below the waste. And you put it like, where do you put these, the thing? What do they call the electrodes or like what were like? Electroids. Yeah, they're full electrodes. Yeah. Where do you put the electrodes? So it's got several places that I put them. The one I like, the combination I like the best is I have a metal one that goes up in my ass, you know, kind of like a butt plug. Only it's metal and it's connected to a lead wire. And

then I have another one that I wrap around the base of my cock, kind of like a cockering, so it goes over the top that wraps around your ball, behind your balls. Uh-huh. And then I go. Wait, you just broke up. You just broke up again. Are you moving? Sure.

No, I'm not. Okay, so go. And then the last one. And then the last one, I connect up on the head of my cock. and it's a special one, the one that I use, because it actually goes down into the opening, down into the urethra, just about in. Doesn't that hurt? Doesn't it hurt? It doesn't hurt.

It seems surprising the first time, but it's not real big. It's short, and it's not very big around. It just has to go down in about, you know, half an inch or an inch. Because I feel like my BDSM people have told me that, like, some guys that are into torture and pain, like, have someone do something. something like that in a in a way to create massive pain right like supposedly so this isn't creating any kind of pain though when you put in because you're not putting it in deep what does that thing hold what does that hold cold again it's the metas technically I think the anatomy but it's the end of your urethra yeah the urethra right yeah I remember the hearing some guy telling me and

like how that supposedly like and like when guys go to the doctor they talk about how the doctor put something in there and it's like fucking kills I don't know it's just like yeah but that's going deep. Oh, okay. Go down into your bladder and everything else. I'm not into that at all. There are people who are. There are people who insert these metal rods that go all the way down into their bladder.

Oh, stop. I can't even if it's hurting just still talking about it. Listen, and then they hook them up to the power. Oh, and then they use the electrostimulation all the way that deep. But you're here to tell people, the regular, like, you don't need to do that, right? So you just put a little bit in the tip, one up your, and one around the base of your cock, and then you turn up the volume or the, like you turn on the. I turn on the signal.

Yeah. We need to talk about where the signal comes from. Yeah, where does the signal come from? Yeah. So the way these things work, like the first one that I made from at home was made with an old set of computer speakers. Okay. And what you do is you go into that little tiny amplifier that's in there and you add some things. and then you connect that up to the electrodes.

But what you do to get the signal to place special files through that the blamplifier. But where do you get the files? Well, that's kind of the fun part. You have to go hunting, but they're out there on the web. So I can go out to different websites and find these files and download them. What do they call? What do you Google? They have a very large collection.

Pardon? E-stimulate, like, electro-stimulation file. Like, how do you find them? Like, what are they named? I would do a search for E-STIM, like E-S-T-I-M files. Okay. Or electro-stimulation files. Okay.

And so you, so it's like a tape recording kind of thing? No, people have created them in software. So there's nobody putting a mic out. I mean, if you listen to one, it would just sound like something out of the science fiction movie oh okay oh okay cool so it's like you so right you don't use regular music if use regular music you're going to kill yourself it's just because there's too much variation right that would be weird things to your body so instead you use these and i mean i don't mean that literally kill yourself that it would not be a pleasant experience right i get it because this kind

of thing that you use is creating different feelings when you turn it on right And so and you don't know like I mean do they explain what you're going to get on each one like I mean I just feel like like how does the how do you know what to sort of get when you get the files? I mean are they linked? That's a good question because they have names. Right. Like what are the names? Like one of them is called muscle lust. Uh-huh. Another one is called. Let's see if I can think of someone. electrojack. Right.

Some of them are called stroker. And do they come with like an explanation, like this is what you're going to get with them? No. Okay. You have to try them to find out. And they're all different? Yeah, they're all different kinds.

Some of them will make you feel like you're getting tapped on the head of your dick, which is surprisingly an erotic sensation. Some of them you may feel like you're being shod. stroked from like your frostate out through the shaft out to the head of your dick and then back. Oh, wow. Okay. And like, okay. And some of them are just tingling sensations.

And do some of them like mix that all together to give you like a really great experience? Yeah. There are sessions that are like two hours long. Uh-huh. Oh, wow. And, you know, they get named like somebody's symphony. So they get a name like that. And they have movements like in a symphony.

And there's a variety of different kinds of experiences as you move through the symphony. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. And now, do they make different ones from men and women? Or could a man and a woman use the same one? Well, men and women can use the same signal source and the same power source, but their electrodes are different. Right, but I'm talking about the files, though, those symphony that you get. I haven't seen any that's named specifically for a woman's use.

So they're mostly for men, or they could be used by either, I'm sure. Well, they can be used by either, but, you know, like most things sexual, most of the kink is in the male community. But there are women who do it too. Right. So there must be e-stem files for women to give them the kind of experience that they want. Because I would think, like, when you think, like, the ones that are stroking you and everything, like, I don't know, maybe that's not the right thing. I mean, anatomy is so different, right?

But there are some files, like the electrode I said that I put up in my ass. So there are certain files. If I play through that, it actually feels like somebody is doing me in the ass. Right, it's fucking you in the ass. So that would be okay for the girl. Exactly, yeah. I mean, the thing's not moving, but because of the change in the signal, it feels. like there's something back there moving around.

Oh, my God. And so, you know, did you ever do the two-hour one? Or, like, are you normally, like, the type of person that likes to just get in and get out? I mean, I mean, you're married now. I'm assuming for the past 15 years maybe you weren't married. I mean, because, like, what would you have two hours that your wife's not around that you could just, like, lay back and do this? Well, there's a couple of different scenarios. Sometimes when I travel for business, I have the whole night alone in my hotel room.

Uh-huh. And you bring it with you. And I bring it with me, yeah. It goes in a little computer bag, and away we go. And do you ever think, like, if you're, like, going through, like, customs or something, and they open, like, is it an obvious sex thing, or does it not look like that at all? Like, I don't even, because I had never heard of this. I don't even know, like, what does the apparatus look like?

So, so the box looks like a little like a square. You're totally breaking up. I didn't hear a word you said. The box. Okay. So the box, the power box, looks like a little black box. It's about, looks like a little amplifier. It's about six inches on a square, about two inches deep. And it has some knobs in the front. And some phone jack where you plug in the wires. Right. So it doesn't look like there's nothing shaped like a dick or anything like that, right? So it hasn't really, like if so they open up your bag and look at it, they're not like what the fuck is this guy doing with this stuff, right? It looks like you're maybe doing work on some sort of. computer thing. Yeah, it's not something that I take in carry-on

baggage, but I put it in my packback or my check baggage. But what about at home? Like if your wife found it or like where do you hide it? Oh, that's a good question. So there's a couple places. In the office, I have the closet that nobody ever wants to go to because there's something there. Because there's what? You just broke out? I have a closet at home that has so much stuff in it. Nobody ever wants to go in there because it's full of junk. Okay.

So that's one place. Another place is I can keep it in my office, just in my computer bag, back in the corner of my office, if I won't have work. Right. So that's what I keep it. But I do do this at home, so it's not like I only do it when I'm on the move. Right. You will do it at home when your wife steps out or something like that?

Yeah. I'm fortunate to have a job that has flexible day schedule. Uh-huh. And she has a job where she goes. she has to be there all day. So, you know, I could, there's times I've just taken the day off and just did the whole day. How long you've been married for? About 30 years.

Okay, so you were with her when you found this and you were in. So I'm assuming, like, you didn't tell her about this because, like, then she'd be, like, me. Like, where do you hear about this? And you're not going to say from the Yahoo sex room, chat room that I'm at, right? Like, I mean, like, because I'm wondering why you wouldn't sort of tell her about it. it. Well, so my wife will indulge in some of my kinks, but not all of my kinks. You know, there's limits to what she'll do. And I think, in my judgment, this is one of those things that's beyond her limits. Right. So you feel like she wouldn't be into it. She wouldn't be cool with it.

And so it's just best to keep it to yourself. Let me describe this. Let me describe it this way. Yeah. When we were separated due to business travel for about three or four months, when we were moving from one state to another, she came and she found a fleshlight in my bag. She was threatened by the fleshlight. What's a fleshlight? Yeah, well, a fleshlight is a male masturbation sleep.

A what? A male masturbation sleep? You see, I don't know these things. I'm a girl. I've never Googled, like, guy stuff. So it's a male masturbation. device that has a hole up through it. It's about eight or nine inches long.

On the outside, it looks like a big oversized flashlight. Yeah. But on the inside, it's soft and tender and has little striations in it that you feel when you slide it over your cock. Uh-huh. So anyway, I had one of those, you know, because we were separated there for a long time, long distance. And when she came and she saw it, she just felt threatened by it.

She said, I can't believe you had that. would you need that? Well, didn't she know you were, wouldn't she rather that, then she didn't find like a hooker's number in your bag? I mean, like, you were separated, right? Like, can't you just move? Yeah, that was my response. Right?

I was like, she should have been happy. Oh, he's not fucking other people because what would she think you're going to do for three or four months? And it was the closest thing to her. Right. And let me ask you this. Did you ever cheat on her in all these times? You've been with her 30 years?

Nope. See, there you go. Yeah, you got these electrodes, you got that flashlight. I mean, like, you're taking care of business. If you define that as cheating, I suppose. That's not cheating. Who would define that as cheating? What's cheating?

Jerking off? Or keeping the secret? Yeah. Keeping the secret is a, it could be a different category, right? It could be, you know, like, It would be maybe like a deceit, you know, in the relationship, like, or what, you know, and have to do. And, yeah, that's similar to cheating is like something that, yeah, you're just being deceitful. And it creates a problem with trust in a relationship.

And so maybe keeping something to yourself is like the same thing, lying. Maybe it's more like lying. Maybe that would be the word. But is it lying? I mean, I don't know. I have a friend who's like, you know, if they don't ask and I don't tell, it's not lying. I'm just like, you know, it's like omitting the truth. I don't know.

But I don't think it's any big deal, especially like, listen, there's a lot of guys that are not faithful. I think, so, and you are, and you have been, this stuff has probably helped you. You've got like this little contraption that you got that could give you like the best orgasms ever, right? And then you have your wife when you want the real deal, right? So you don't have the need to go elsewhere. And maybe you're just not that kind of person, right?

So I don't know. But like, would she be surprised if she found out that you had this other thing? I think she would at first be shocked. Right. Pun intended. But she wouldn't be surprised. Because of the kinky stuff that you're into? Yeah, the stuff that I introduced into our sex life.

What kind of stuff have you introduced into your sex life with her? it'll sound mild by some people's standards, I suppose. But most people that listen, I think, are mild people, so let's hear about it. Okay. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't need to be so hardcore. Okay. Let's titillate your listeners.

So we do theme date nights. Wait, you just broke up again. You got the bad cell service. You do what? We do erotic theme date nights, you know, with meals and certain kinds of drinks and certain kinds of porn movies, things like that. That's one example. We'll do a little bit of bondage play.

Uh-huh. And that was long before 50 shades. So we do that kind of thing. And now let me ask you this. Is it when you do the bondage thing, like who's the submissive? Or do you guys swap? Are you into being the person that's like, are you into being the person that's like, Are you into being the submissive and you want her to be the top?

Does she just go for the ride or is she into it too? Well, so what, the way it started, I was tired of her not taking initiative and always being submissive in the sack. Right. So when I first organized a night to do this, I brought home to her a little collar that says submissive on it. Uh-huh. to start her down the role play. But the collar was for you? No, the collar was for her.

But I thought you were sick of her being submissive. I was sick of her being submissive. And if she was going to be submissive, then she was going to be submissive. Oh, you were going to get turned on, right? You were going to be, you're going to make it like a hot something. You're going to make it fucking hot then if she's going to be sensitive because it was like for. Exactly. That's right. That's kind of smart.

You're going to dress how I want you to dress. You're going to wear what I buy. for you. You're going to put on the jewelry that I say you're going to put on. You're going to use the toys that I say you put on. So, you know, we kind of go down that road. I think that's kind of smart. I think that's a smart way of, you know, turning something that could otherwise make sex like super boring, right, into something like totally new, right? You just created something that was happening and turned it into a positive just by introducing that whole scene. just making it a little bit more extreme.

I think that's smart. Yeah, and she's into it now. So she loves it. I do have to confess I have another slight kink. Yeah. And that's, I like, I pick out and buy all the clothes she wears for these kind of the fence, right? Right.

And one of them is the heels, right? You know, the fuck-me-punts, right? So it turns out I do a very good job of picking out fuck-me-pon. She likes the shoes that you. get for her? She likes what I pick out for her and I've gotten to point now where it's kind of hard to walk through her shoe store. Really? Because you can't help

look at the shoes and find the one that you really like or you want to buy them for her. Yeah, and get an erection in the process. Oh, I hear you because you're so, you're like a shoe fetish now. I have taught my body that when I see that,

that means great sex and that's what I think about. Right. She seems kind of like open the fact that like maybe you just don't even it's not a big deal to keep this to yourself right like I mean because like I feel like if she knew you know you've been with her for so long right she knows you jerk off because you saw that flashlight thing and whatever you've been with her for a long time I'm sure she knows that you do pleasure yourself that like if you let it out to be like a part of your relationship do you see any positive for that or there you just would there would be no gain in it so

why bother? There's no gain in it. Why bother? Right, exactly, right? Because it really is something that you do yourself, right? You've built them yourself. Well, you said something in the email. You're like, it changes your brainwaves.

Like, what the fuck does that mean? Okay, so there are times when I have lots of time and I can spend, you know, two, three, four hours. And you start down this path and you kind of get in a zone. I don't know if it's the brain chemistry that's changing because of the ongoing pleasure. And of course, like anything else, you can increase the pleasure level and decrease the pleasure level or you can just pick the right thing and you can just ride it up and down and up and down. And I find myself kind of getting into a zone where it's just like, I can't believe this feels this good. Right.

You just roll with it. It's like, I suppose it's like an addict on high, you know. Right. So you feel it's really not just affecting you physically, which in your brain chemistry is sort of being tweaked as well at the same time. Well, maybe because like when you do like meditation, like they have certain meditations that have sort of like beats that go in, like binary beats and like different things that,

and they don't sound like anything. They sound sort of weird or what, you know, but they do change. how you feel what you think like you know what I mean like and it's like the subliminal kind of thing so maybe there's something like that going on I mean have you ever googled it to see if that's like there's something else going on when you're doing this I haven't but you know I even in the stem communities that I'm part of now yeah I've not seen any mention or discussion of this experience maybe I ought to bring it up and see what see what other people say yeah maybe you haven't

because no one brought it up, but I'm sure if you Google it, somebody else has been talking about or something. Like maybe there is something that goes on that's changing something subliminally, right? I don't know. I mean, you know, but do you hear anything when you're doing it or no? You don't. You're just feeling stuff, right?

You just feel it. Yeah, if you had to hear it, it wouldn't sound like anything. It would sound like a strange sound from a science fiction movie. Right, of course, right, because it's like electrodes, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right. It's nothing that.

But what other people do along the lines is there are people who have written these STEM files to match up with porn videos. Oh, what do you mean? So you can watch a porn video and experience an approximation of the action in your cock. Oh, you're watching and you're getting the sensation of what you're watching. It's like you're the person in there that you're watching. Yeah, so you can play the video and you can hear the audio of the moaning and the grunning and all that, but your body is feeling the sensation of this electrostimulation. Oh, wow.

That's smart. I mean, that's like a good concept to come up with for people. Yeah, it's an art form. It's almost like virtual, right? Well, I just think, yeah. I mean, when the VR glasses came out, I was like, oh, my God, they're going to have to pair this up with porn, right? And I have a friend who's like out of work. And so he does like shoots for,

I don't know. He does like sort of production work for porn sets. I don't know. He's like the guy. I'm like, tell your guy to make VR porn. Like that's probably the. And he said he's seen it.

He shot it. And it's like really like I think it's all out there now. Right. But like, you know, it's like the future, right? It's like supposedly. And I'm just like in 20 years from now, people won't even be fucking real people.

Like people will be able to have exactly. what they want in their VR. And maybe they sort of pair it up with this thing. I mean, it sounds a little archaic what you're doing, but I'm assuming you could buy them too. I mean, you're telling me about stuff that you've built from computer things. But, like, I'm assuming 15 years later, there's stuff that you could buy that's more like up to date.

I don't know. And how much does it cost? So it depends. a decent unit, one that's of good value that works well, would probably cost you between $300 and $800. Oh, wow. Have you bought one of those in all this time? I did.

After years of making my own, I finally said, screw it, I'm going to get the real thing, and last year I bought them. And how was it? It is awesome. Compared to the ones that you make, so much better. Yeah, that's much better. What it does that makes it better is that you can feel the nuances much better than with the homemade unit. Right.

So you can really feel the subtle variations in the stimulation. So it's like more refined? Exactly. Yeah. Right. What's the name of the one that you bought? Did you buy a lower N1 for 300? Did you buy the 800 one?

Yeah. I bought one in the 300 range. And it was amazing. And it was amazing. What's the name of the? one. B T Stim. B as in boy T as and Tom. B as in boy T as and Tom.

B as in Boat T as and Tom dash Okay and that one you highly recommend that's on the $300 range but that one's really good. Now where would you find out the information if someone wants to build their own because you did that for a very long time considering you said you've been doing it 15 years you just bought one right? You've always made them yourself. How do people find out how to make one themselves?

Well it's not surprising. Surprisingly, the STEM community is also home to lots of engineers. Right. And so what they do is they're always trying to in their homemade units. And they post their schematic diagrams and their plans on websites. And you can just go in there and download them and go to your local radio shack or electronics parts store and buy the parts and put it together. Now, let me ask you this. Is it like dangerous?

I don't know. Like, I mean, could you fuck stuff up if you like don't do it, right? right? Like, I mean, you're putting, you're making some sort of electrical thing. That would, like, scare me. And then you're shoving it up your ass. Like, I don't know. That would, like, scare me. Like, what's the worst that could happen if you don't make it right? Well, generally the worst that can happen is you get a good strong shock. Okay. You know, just a surprisingly strong shock. But it's real easy to make, and it's very simple, you know, almost anybody can do it if you know how to use a soldering pencil, you know. Right. And, but the worst it could happen is, you know, if you were out doing this somewhere like a home or a hotel, and there was a thunderstorm, and there was a lightning strike. I'm building you're in because the lightning will go through anything and everything. So that's another rule that I have.

I don't stem above the waste, and I don't stem in a thunderstorm. Right. Yeah, you better not. And do most people have there been stories? I wonder if there's stories of people out there that have died from stimming. I don't know. I mean, I'm assuming not because I've never heard one. One of the things I wanted to share with you is where people can find information about this.

Yeah. Where? So there's a couple of discussion groups, discussion boards on the subject. One of them is at a place called smart stem, S-M-A-R-T-I-N dot com. And another one is at a place called Social STEM, S-O-C-I-A-L-E-L. st-i-m.com. So those are two communities where, you know, people are, they're affisianados and they post their experiences and their homemade electrodes.

Some people make their stuff at home like I do. Right. And they talk about their experiences. They post pictures and videos. And that's where people could get all the information. That's where you got a lot of your information after a lot of them for so long. After the Yahoo group, after I found the Yahoo group, after I found the Yahoo group, then that led me to one of those websites to learn about it.

Let me ask you this, because I remember a guy that called into my show, and he had diabetes, and it created a lot of nerve damage, and it made it, like, almost impossible for him to have, to feel his orgasms, right? It was, like, really devastating. I mean, imagine. Is something like this helpful, do you know, like, could this, like, be something, or is it because it's working with nerves? Like, maybe if you have that nerve damage, it can't do anything.

I mean, is it, because when I was Googling while we're talking, like, I just wanted to see what one looked like. All this stuff for physical therapy came up. So it seems like they use this for physical therapy. So I'm like, could you be like kind of like using it for your dick and it's giving you physical therapy at the same time? Like maybe if something's, you know, up with your dick because you have something going on with it. Like have you heard like is it used for that too or no? Well, you got, there's two questions in there. Yeah.

I try to answer with us. The first one is about the diabetes. I don't know enough about diabetes to understand how it affects the nerve system. Right. But this form of neural stimulation isn't just the nerves that are on the surface of the skin. Right. Though it goes deeper. So maybe that would help.

Yeah, right. Okay, that's interesting. Diabetic, I don't know. I imagine on one of those discussion forums, somebody's probably asked that question. I'm going to Google it and find out because if it is a little, that helps. I'm going to make sure my guy that called in that had that problem, make sure he listens to this and tries it. Okay. And then the other question you talked about physical therapy. So if you've ever had like a lower back problem, muscle problem, sometimes they'll recommend

that you use something called a tens unit, T-E-N-S. And it's essentially a little box that's a medical box that you hook the two electrodes on the places in your back and you turn this box on and it does the same thing so it's it's stimulating something in there to help take away the back pain yeah it's in fact 10 stands for transcutaneous electronic stimulation or something like that right so it is electronic nerve stimulation and and you can use that for sex play too i mean you could use that to stem your car. Right, to start off, right, to start off it. But it's not playing the symphony, like you said.

It's just doing it. Right. When it does, it gives you a vibration. It's like a real super intense high-speed vibration set, feel. Right. But what you're talking about, it's like kind of crazy. It's like not just vibrating. It's creating things that like you, it's like a hand moving on you, but there's no hand there, right?

Like things moving up and down or like different things. kinds of things that like could you even experience in real life like it's like crazy yeah the matter fact one of the stem files i like to use is called bj on a country road that's the title that's the title oh my god that's so funny some guys like just thinking i just want to bj on a country road another one is stroking um you're looking at your files now no oh yeah you're in your car You're in your car. Where do you hide this stuff on your computer? Like your wife doesn't find this stuff?

My wife has her own computer, and I have my computer. Yeah, see, this is the shit that people find out about when someone dies. Exactly. And I'm, believe me, I occasionally do think about that day. But they're all going to say, we knew dad was really kinky, but we didn't know he was that kink. Yeah, but I made a joke at one of my podcasts that they should, like, have, like, someone just started. a business called like the cleanup crew like you know there where they go in and clean this shit up because sometimes they think depending on like how hardcore your quote unquote kink is like it could

really ruin like you know because some people define people by certain things right i think it's like bullshit you know a guy could live his whole life being whatever with his wife but then she finds out that he was into bondage on the side you know because she found his shit and she could forever hate him because like this is what you you know you don't know i don't know i don't know that that happens in real life, but you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. But it's not like you're living, like, I mean, your wife knows you have these,

this kinky stuff. She saw that you had, like, like, because I think most guys just jerk off, like, like, I always thought I was lucky as a woman that, like, I could have, like, there's so many toys for women to use, right, to jerk off and to, you could just go to town on yourself with, like, so many different contraptions. I love

that. And I always felt like, sorry for guys, because I'm like, there's not much for guys. right but you're a guy and most guys don't use it they just fucking jerk off with their hand and use their imagination or porn or whatever and call it a day right but like you you use that

flashlight thing what was it called again I'm sorry what the flashlight thing I don't know what it's called this week it's called a flesh light a flash light of the flesh flesh I know I know but you said it had to top like a flashlight but it's like the flesh light you know she knows you're the guy that, you know, use that.

I don't think most guys would use something like that or even know that it exists or that a lot of guys don't go shopping for stuff to pleasure themselves. But you're here to say that there are all these things, right? Besides the E-stems, you have, that flesh thing is good, right? Yeah, I need to tell you something. So as we're talking, I'm thinking about what you're saying. and it occurred to me that I may not appreciate just how kinky I am

compared to the rest of the population Yeah, I think Because when you're in it When you're in it, you think Oh, there's a whole lot of people Especially on the internet Yeah, that's what's great about the internet Yeah, uh-huh

And you think, oh, there's all kinds of people in it is I'm not the only one All these other people are doing secret I don't know about it Yeah, maybe And everybody knows about all this stuff Yeah, yeah But I don't think so

I'm pretty open sexually know about a lot of things, but I don't never heard of this. I know a lot of guys. Like, I have a lot of guy friends. I have girlfriends too, but I have a lot of guy friends, and we're pretty open about stuff, and they always tell me their shit, and I've never heard about this kind of stuff,

nor do I think most of them use any kind of toys for, you know, they like to get their girls to use it, right? You know, but are they really buying their stuff? Like, no, what other stuff have you used? Anything else that you could give a shout out to my life? listeners that tell them that they could use the east the east stem thing sounds interesting i think it's really interesting if someone listens to this and maybe they've heard about it and now they know how to actually go out and do it for themselves right and what it does uh maybe you'll turn some people on that have

never heard about it right and they're like you know it sounds like fucking amazing that you could like watch a porn and then get you're the person in it you know i mean and they've got these sounds that do all these kinds of feelings like great especially for a guy if he's not getting late, right? Or an older guy that maybe doesn't have a partner anymore. But also that flesh light thing you said was cool, that's a good thing to use for guys

I don't know. Yeah, but you know, part of what drove me to those things was that I was bored with regular jack-and-off, right? Right. I mean, after so many years, like, okay, this is the same thing over again. Yeah, I wonder if guys are, I've got to start quizzing.

I got to start quizzing my guy friends. I don't think I've ever asked them if they, I don't think it ever occurred to me that could be a possibility that they would be bored of jerking off. But I'm going to ask my guy friends. Well, think about this, Kathy. Yeah. What if the only thing you ever had was penis and vagina missionary sex with no foreplay for 20 years. What do you mean no foreplay?

Do you think you'd be bored? Yeah, for sure. What do you mean no foreplay? What I'm saying is it's just like jerking off. Right. Oh, right, right, right. I say you're saying. Right.

I want to do this for 20 years. I'm going to do it for the next 30 years. Yeah, but there's something more to jerking it. Like you have your imagination, you have your thought. You know, it's like you kind of could create that experience in your mind. But I get it. I think everyone has different, like, brains that think different things. Like, you know, I think there's some women that don't use anything other than their hand, right,

if they're drinking off. Some women really like toys. Like, you're the type of guy. I think most guys don't. That's just what I think. But who knows? I talk about how unprofessional I am on this podcast. I guess I don't fucking know.

Maybe I'm wrong. You know what I mean? People will write in and tell me what they think. But from the guys that I know, I don't think most guys use stuff. I think with their minds and just like looking at a pair of tits, it's like enough. You know, guys are so simple. But I think there's all different types of guys, right? Like you're a guy that, especially because you do the role playing with your wife.

Like you have more of an imaginative, like you like all that stuff. You know what I mean? You need that. That's like you, you know, it's what you're into. So it makes sense that you would like all this other stuff, right? Right. I'm just saying talk to those people are listening. There's other, if you're like this, there's got to be other guys, you know.

I think it's good to know about sex toys that are really good. I once used this thing called the Clit Kisser. It was like there was, I didn't have a podcast at the time and there was no internet or else I'd be blabbing about it for days because I couldn't even believe how great it was. I was just like telling everybody because it was like the best fucking thing I ever experienced. I had to throw it out because it was too good. But like, you know, so I feel like it's always good to get firsthand, like, recommendation for stuff like that, you know?

So if, like, I'm asking you because I'm like, there's probably guys that maybe always thought, like, hey, should I try that out, but it probably doesn't work? I don't know because no guys talk about it, you know. Is there any other stuff that you've used besides? Because the E-STEM thing is like a little hardcore, right? It's super expensive or you have to make it yourself. And it's dangerous. I don't know.

That's a little scary. But the other things, considering that you've tried other things, what else can you recommend? Anything else? No, that's really it. And I got to tell you something. Most guys don't come the first time they use it. Really? We'll try it.

Yeah. It's like a lot of things your body has to kind of adjust to it and appreciate it. Let me ask you this. Did it change your orgasms, like as far as make it harder to orgasm with your body? wife or make it easier to work orgasm with your wife or did it keep it the same it only makes it harder if i've been doing it for five or six hours and then she comes home and decides she wants me to yeah i can't no because it's like i never liked vibrators for that reason because like they stimulate your clit like it's like you put something on your clip that vibrates like that like

you're never going to have that in real life and it's just like you could become numb to it like so i never really like to use that because it's so different you know so that's what i was wondering like does it make it hard? Yeah, I run into that a couple of times. I have to be careful about that. Right. Because it takes sometimes if I do it all day you know for four, five, six hours

it might take me a day or two to regain normal sensation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you just make sure and you're doing it like you said sometimes of those long periods of time. We're doing it when you're away from your wife and you're on vacation. Like you're working, right? You're out of town. Yeah. So it doesn't matter by the time you get home your sensations back. So it doesn't affect the long term or permanent right oh yeah it's not a long term thing yeah there's

nothing permanent right and but it doesn't help it either uh no do you think it's changing well yeah actually it's you can get to a point where you've got just enough sensation that you can feel it but you might last forever oh really why because you're you you practice it's like kind of like practicing when you're using that no it's like uh okay so i maybe i wait a day and the the the entire numbness hasn't gone away. Right. But I can still go hard on. Right, right, right.

So it makes you laugh longer. No, it's better than using one of those, those lotions. Not that they ever have to worry about that. But, you know, it's like, oh, wow, I don't have to think about this. Or I don't have to make changes or do things differently. It's like, let's just keep going right after it for the next hour. We're okay. Now, you said you like that thing in your ass, right?

And it makes that feeling of something going in and out in your ass, right? So basically, like, you like anal, right? Do you ever in your thinking, with your wife like have her peg you or do anything like that or do you keep that to yourself? She won't peg me, I don't think. I've never really asked her. You know, she kind of laughs off toys, but she doesn't have any problem of stimulating my ass. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. She'll use a finger. It's fine. And it's great. Right. And you like it, I'm assuming, because you like it with that thing, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah, so that's cool. And I'll tell you what, I didn't really discover it still. I started using that East End toy, that particular electricist. So you were like a typical guy where you were like, no way, like I'm not into that. I don't think I was hard. I wasn't that hardcore about it, but it was like, well, I don't think there's anything really back there. Everything I feel is up front. Right, right, right. And then do they, so I guess they teach you.

They tell you like every guy puts it inside, like those three places that you said you put it? Or there are there multiple places that you could put it? Oh, there's other ways for guys. So like instead of the one back in the back, you might put one at the base and one halfway down the shaft and another one out on the head. And they have different shapes and sizes of electrodes. Right. And the other thing, too, is you don't use metal because generally you don't use metal because metal can get little hot spots, little points on it. Uh-huh.

Where the current gets concentrated too high and you can get a little burn. So there's a thing out there called conductive rubber. Yeah, and that's what you use. Like a silicon, kind of like a silicon cockering, you know? Uh-huh. But they're made out of conductive rubber instead, and so you use that. Interesting. And now you've never had, I'm assuming, any kind of problems or burns or anything.

I mean, considering you made them for 15 years, I don't know. That sounds scary to me making this shit yourself. It's, well, I'm an engineer. Oh, okay. You failed to talk. Okay, there you go. So, yeah, I understand all this stuff. It's amazing.

So sometimes, once in a while, I'll put an ad on my Craigslist where you can't do that anymore. Yeah. And then I'll invite guys to learn about it. Uh-huh. And they're really, I mean, it's amazing. If I would put an ad on Craigslist and say, would you like to learn about Easton from an experience simmer, I'll get 20 responses from guys. Right.

What would you want to put a shout out on my podcast? and see if anyone writes in, are you into helping people or telling them or talking to them about it? Yeah, yeah, I like to do that. Okay, so could I. Could I say to people, like, if you're interested, I mean, I won't give out your email address on this, but like if they're interested, they could email me and then I'll put them in touch with you. Would you be into that? Yeah, that's fine.

Yeah, that'd be fine. Okay, so anyone listening, if you want more information because I think, I mean, you're an engineer, right? We just learned this, like, late in the game, like, because I was thinking, like, it's a little. little like how many people could actually build it i don't know it sounds a little you make it seem like it seems easy but i think it seems like it might be a little complicated for the regular person right so you could like have you walked people through it and stuff like is that what you could do for people yeah oh yeah yeah i've met with guys and and show them how to use it and had

them try it you have they ever made a pass at you well yeah that's what i would think it's funny because probably half the guys are either bisexual or gay. Yeah. And the other half are guys like me that are married, quote unquote, straight guys who just want to try something different. Right. And so when the guys hit on you, you've never fooled around with guys, I'm assuming, because you said you never cheated on your wife. Like you just like say no thanks, buddy. Right, yeah.

Right. Exactly. So if any. Yeah. Go ahead. No, you go on. The problem is one of the problems with that scenario is, you know, they think, well, I'm going to go over there.

He's going to hook me up, and in 10 minutes I'm going to come. And it doesn't work that way. Right. Because they experience the sensation as like their body says, wait, this is something completely different. I don't know what I'm supposed to do or feel. Oh, wait a second. So when you say you've helped guys, you've gone over there and like hook them up and

pulled their pants down and saw them actually do it. And I asked you if they hit on you thinking that you're just meeting him in a coffee shop talking about it. of course they hit on you you're there their cock is out like your foot i i mean come on i think your wife would think this is this might be yeah that might be going up a bit a bridge too far for sure yeah for sure she can't never find out about that when you die make sure you delete those emails but wait a second you've gone so far as to like meet guys and like hook them up and go to their house and like do it with them and help you're

help them do it. Have you seen them come? Yeah. Has does that turn you on at all? I think it's very interesting. Yeah. Interesting. It does turn me on a little bit.

I mean, you know, I don't care what any straight guy says, a hard cock and a hard cock that's coming. That's part of the excitement. Why else is there a money shot in born? Oh, right. Maybe. I don't know. You think?

Yeah. That's why there's a money shot. every cheesy porn video ever made. So you're there, the guy comes, and then, like, how uncomfortable is it afterwards? Because now he's all done, and you're the strangers sitting there. I don't know, that must be, like, a weird scene for that guy. Well, I do it, too. You what?

I do it, too. Oh, stop. Wait a second. Okay, this is a whole other story. I can't believe I waited until so long to get to this shit. okay you so you you I have to put this in the in the intro so or else people are going to maybe not listen to all of it and then they don't know you know what I mean like wait a second you you bring it over you hook them up and you say so you're basically getting off by yourself

sitting next to another guy getting off by himself right yeah oh yeah that's a whole other story that's yeah that's no touching no touching okay but you're doing it with someone, so there is a little bit of something going on there. That's a little bit maybe not perfectly, not 100% heterosexual, maybe not bisexual, but maybe a little bit curious.

I don't know. Who knows, but that's interesting. How many times have you done that? Well, probably a half a dozen times. Wow. Somewhere two and a dozen, I guess. Right. So if a guy lives in your area,

I don't know where you live, nor do I need to, but like if you start talking, so just so guys know that you're listening to this, if you want to write it, and women too. Have you ever hooked up a woman? No, I'm assuming now. No, I haven't done that yet. Okay, so if you're a guy or a girl, right,

and you want to, like, first of all, he'll help you out, he'll email with you, talk to you, teach you how to do it. Ed, if you live in his area, right? If they live close to you, you will actually help really walk them through it and do it with them. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That's a good offer. That's good to know. What was the last time you did that? It's probably been about six, eight months. Right. And now, have you ever, like, gone back for seconds and thirds with the same guy, or is it typically like a – you teach them how to do it,

and then you never talk to them again? Right. That's usually the way it works out. Right. So you – They got questions and they call me or email me and I'll respond. But it's not like I'm into repeat performances. Right.

this thing is so good that they don't need you afterwards right? Like all of a sudden they start to experience these amazing feelings with this thing, right? That's what I'm assuming. And they're like, they don't need anybody else. Yeah, exactly. Right?

Yep. Yeah, that's so fascinating. So anyway, all right, let's give the shout out to anybody wants to talk to Jay. We're calling him Jay. If you want to talk to him, find out more information he can help you out via email or maybe hit the jackpot if you live where he does.

We don't want to say where you live, right? But if somebody, I'll forward them on, and then you could start discussing with them. So send me an email at Shickley Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com, and I'll put you in touch with Jay, and he can teach you all about it. So, yeah, you better hide the emails with the guy. That's not good.

Your wife cannot find that out after you die. Like, she cannot find out that you went to the guy's houses. So do whatever you have to do to get rid of that stuff. yeah okay she can't find that that's a whole other story right okay the thing doing it yourself on your road trips and in your office like who gives a shit you know what I mean but not going to the guy's houses I don't think without a conversation and a million questions and the answers from you like her mind could go crazy with that do you know what I mean so make sure you get to delete that from your computer.

All right, Jay. You know, we didn't talk much about how women use this. How much? You told me that they barely do, no? Yeah, they do. But how they, like, where do they put the electrodes? I would say up their pussy, up their ass, right? And what do their electrodes look like, right?

Little bit. So, well, yeah, you know, they make electrodes. Actually, they sell them in kind of the medical market as a position as a, tighten your pelvic floor. Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. So some of them, they insert up into their pussy, right? Uh-huh. But other ones, they might, if you think like a large hair clip or like an old thing

that you used to hang curtains with. Yeah. Or like a piece of clitoral jewelry that's not piercing, non-piercing clitorial jewelry. Yeah. And book it around their clip. Uh-huh. That's all the way. A real common way is for them to put

on their inner put the electrodes on their inner thighs one on each side and then maybe the third one kind of either on their mound or in their pussy or on their clit and then do it away. Now would you, would you

let me ask you this as someone that's never cheated on their wife if a woman writes into my podcast and this is she finds interesting and she wants to do it and it turns out that she lives in your neighborhood Good. Would you go and do it with a woman? I think I would entertain it at this point, yeah. You would, right? I would assume, because it's like, why wouldn't you if you do it with a guy, right?

Considering you're not partying, really. And it's a pretty rare thing. I'm not worried about it happening. Right, right, right. Exactly, yeah. It most likely won't happen. But that's interesting. I wonder, I'm going to Google that, too, to see whether, because, like, when women go through men and pause, like, things change for them, too. Like, they sometimes pitch it as, like, oh, help your pelvic floor, right? you know, I wonder if it's therapeutic on some level also for women. And what I just think it might be because it does, they do use it for physical therapy for other parts of the body, right? You said for the lower back.

So I really need to know whether they use this for physical therapy. I'm going to Google that the minute we get off and then I'm going to tell it on the intro whether it is. Because then it's like this is not only helpful for people that want to get off and have a good time, but it's also helpful for people that are having, you know, issues, physical issues, you know, that it could help and make you feel good at the same time, right? Exactly. All right, so women, if you're out there, he could help you too. And you could do it, and you could do it. It's available.

So anyway, thanks, Jay, for all the information. It's fascinating to me because I've never heard of this. You bet. I'll keep you posted when I get the emails. I'll send them to you. Thanks, Jay. All right. All right, bye.

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