Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 284 - James and his Wife have a Very Open Relationship

Episode Date: May 20, 2019

James and his wife Lynn use to be friends but now they're married and they're swingers and have a very open relationship. How did they first get started in the swinger lifestyle? What was their first experience like? What kind of other experiences have they had since they've been swinging? Tune in to find out plus hear all about the rules they had when they started in the lifestyle as opposed to the rules they have now, how they met their two unicorns they play with, how James feels about getting unsolicited blowjobs from guys during threesomes, how his wife feels about fooling around with women and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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or go to strictly anonymouspodcast.com and click on be on the show. If you haven't subscribed to the show, subscribe. If you could write a review, write a review. Someone from Jersey wrote a review just recently. I saw it. And they said, like, something about your voice. Like, I feel like I've known you my whole life. And I feel like maybe that person has known me their whole life.

Because I am from Jersey. I've lived in New York for, like, almost 25 years. But I grew up in New Jersey and lived there for, like, 25 years. So I am a Jersey girl. That's why my voice sounds familiar to you because I guess I have a Jersey accent or I talk like a Jersey person. I don't know. I think Jersey people curse a lot.

And that's something that when I first started my podcast, I was like horrified by how much I cursed. I really pulled it back a lot. So if you think I cursed a lot now, you should listen to like my first couple episodes. It was like embarrassing, actually. But anyway, today I have on a guy name. I don't even remember his fucking name. This is what's so hard about my show is like I have people who email me from fake emails

and then they make up a different name for their show. And then sometimes they slip and tell me their real name. So I'm always juggling like 16 names at once and I never remember who they are. But I think his name is James. James is going to come on with his wife, but he got the schedule confused. So he just came on alone. And James and his wife, Janet, I think he wanted to call her, are swingers. They were, they're very similar to the couple I just aired in that they were very good friends before they became lovers and husband and wife.

And maybe that, you know, I think that probably has a lot to do with them being successful at swinging because they, like the other couple, are very successful at swinging. They have a very open relationship. They've been doing it for about two years. Like I said, they started off as friends and then they actually started off like he was the boss and she was the worker. And then fast forward to them hooking up after they got divorced. And then when they got together, they right from the get-go had really great sex and then just started to talk a lot about things and realized that they wanted to do some other freaky things. So that's what they did. They followed their sort of fantasies and live them out.

And James couldn't be happier. I mean, you get the enthusiasm from his voice when he talks. He just feels like the fucking luckiest guy on earth. And I think when you hear all his stories and hear all the stuff about his girl that he's married to, I mean, he's like, she's a fucking nine. I'm a seven, you're going to realize he probably is one of the luckiest guys on the planet because he kind of has it all. And that's all I'm going to tell you. So you're just going to listen to the rest of the episode to hear all the specifics about

James and Janet. We'll eventually have Janet on as well. Both of them are going to come back on together. But today you're going to hear the whole story from James' perspective. Anyway, I'll be right back on with James. How are you today? I'm good. How are you?

I'm good. So you were going to be on with your girl, right? But she's on a date. Are you guys married, by the way? We are married. Okay, so you're kind of similar to the couple that I just said on. I actually got you confused with my last couple because when I was taping them, I'm like, are you guys the ones that have the date with the unicorn on Tuesday?

And they're like, no, that's not us. I was like, oh, that's my other swing-in couple. Did you hear that? I heard that today. And I actually pointed it myself. I was like, no, that's me. Yeah, that was you. Because you're so similar, actually, to the couple that I just aired, right?

In that you're with your girl for five years, right? You've been swinging for the past two years. You guys have great sex. You went from, like, swinging and just with each other to now she's got guys she sees separately. She's on a date tonight. You've got a unicorn that you see. You see them together. So it's like you open.

everything, right, with you guys over the course of two years. So how did it start with you? Let me ask you a quick question, because I know that your first experience, which you said was like kind of bad in some ways, but like amazing in other ways, and we'll talk about that. It was with a guy, right? So I'm wondering,

are you by like the other guy, or are you straight? I'm not by. I'm more, I'm straight, but you know, I'm really I love my wife with another guy. You know, did you hear me on that last podcast. I was wondering whether

every guy, remember I don't know if you heard this, but I was like maybe you could help me figure this out because you're straight, right? But you really like to see your wife with another guy. And I was wondering if every guy that sort of likes that might have a little buy in them, right?

Because of that. I don't mind. I never mind anybody. It doesn't, like, I don't, anybody's kick is fine with me. I'm not into something than I am into something. Right. Like if, If a guy's dick, I don't care, but I'm not going to put it in my mouth. And will you let him blow you?

I've actually had a guy blow me, and it wasn't very good. I don't care if they do, but it's, it's, it wasn't, like, he wasn't very good at it. Wow, you would think it's the opposite, right? Just like what girls say, girls go down, you know? I don't know. Right, but, so for you, the one time you allowed it to happen, was it that, was it that first experience or no, was it another time? Same guy, but a different experience.

So the first time was with a guy, and he was supposed to make the arrangements. We were very new to this at the time. We were very nervous. All we've done so far is we went to one party. I'll just back up and start from there. We went to this first party after we, you know, we sent the, we saw the party on the site we work from, and then we put in our little thing and said, yes, we'd like to come. She said, yes, you're invited.

On the very last night, we put it in like four nights before. And on the night right before, she finally responded, said, yes, you're invited to come. So we went to that. We were very nervous. We didn't do anything with anybody because we didn't know how to approach anyone. We didn't know anyone. So we just went in the back room that was open and just had sex with each other. But a crowd gathered around.

Oh, you mentioned this. Yeah, yeah, you mentioned this. This was not your first party that the people were, like, clapping in Washington? So she loved the fact that a crowd gathered around and was applauding when we were done. And we were all like, oh, my God, that was really sexy and really fun and really, like, nasty and, you know, that was great. Nothing else happened and we went home.

So there are our first actual experience. He was supposed to make the arrangements, but he didn't. But wait, but where do you meet the guy? And why do you decide on a guy? Like, how did the whole guy thing come into play that you're going to meet a, like, you know what I mean? Like, how did that happen? I think it was a matter of trust for her. As we're trying to, as I'm trying to move her in to do this, at first she's very shy about it.

How much we're going to enjoy it. She knows she's kind of fun, but the whole thing just seems she just wants to, she wanted, I guess, to get a person and I didn't care. Okay. Now, was she, did she? You eventually, she plays with women eventually, but like the first time. And so in this situation that you're setting up, is that did you go out looking for a guy that's going to fuck her and you're going to watch or like you guys are going to swat? Like, what do you sign up for? It would be more of a triangle.

Okay. Everybody going at it, she's the object of attention. Okay, cool. And that's what we're doing. Okay, great. So where do you find the guy on that site, that same site where you found the party? We met him at, I'm sorry, we met him on that thing. You were asking, but you asked everybody what they're not.

number is my wife's a nine. Right. And I'm like a seven. Uh-huh. But I'm a seven with with a lot of confidence, so it helps. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. She might think you're a nine, you know? You might be a seven to yourself, but a man, a seven with confidence to a woman is probably like

a higher than a seven. You know what I'm saying? I do. And that is true. That is exactly true because I get, even though if you just saw me pass you, you might not turn your head, but. I get really good looking girls, so I'm... Yeah, girls are wired differently. We look at the whole package.

It's a weird thing. Like, confidence, cockiness, confidence, cockiness, funniness, like stuff really adds to a man. So, you know, women, I've dated some guys that if you just looked at them in a picture, you'd be like, what the fuck, right? But if you met them, you'd be... Completely. Yeah, you get it.

So she's a nine... Willem Defoe gets laid? How does he do that? Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, there is a little, like, the power thing plays into it, too. But anyway, so you're, you're, she's a nine, you're seven, she's a nine, you're seven. You find this guy on that website, right? You guys go to the, yeah, he finds us.

Yeah, he finds you guys, right? And so now, the first night, what goes down? So we, we set it up. He's supposed to find, we set up a date. He's supposed to get us a room at a casino, so we're all going to meet there. Yeah. Well, the night comes around and he's like, oh, I, it's booked up. Well, you should have dealt with that before, right?

That's what we're thinking. Yeah. So we're all jazzed up for this now. So we start trying to find some place. We found some place. And he agreed to meet us there. He's going to split it with us. So we just split the cost of it.

And we got the cheapest, tedious, tracheous plays when we got there, of course. Oh, my gosh. You could possibly imagine. But my wife was smart. She's always like, she's like, always thinking about stuff like this. So she brings along a blanket. and all that. So she puts down a blanket

so she's comfortable. That is smart. Yeah. That's such a woman thing. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I wouldn't have thought about bed bugs,

but she's all about it. So we get there. And it all kind of goes down like what you'd hope. We met him at a bar, so we get to know him for a few minutes. We had a couple of drinks. And then we went back to the hotel room.

She went to the restroom. He starts taking off his clothes. it wasn't even awkward. It was perfectly fine. And then when she came in the room, I just, you know, wait and let them get started because it kind of seems,

it kind of seems like the way to get started is her with the new guy. It's always the easiest way. So we got that start, even then before we knew we were doing, it seemed the way. So we did it. Everything went smashingly from that point.

We had a great time. And then he was just out the door within seconds of being done. So we are sitting there like, That was really hot, and so we had sex again because we were so excited about it, and how much fun it had been. Yeah, I always hear that. So we had sex again before we left.

Yeah. That was crazy. And then after that, we were kind of hooked on doing this. Now, the reason we stayed with an extra guy, and then we tried couples too, is because finding a girl is much harder. It's much more difficult to do. And now we have two. No, I know.

You're the ones with the date with the date. unicorn that I thought was the other people. Yeah, we had a date with a unicorn on that Tuesday last Tuesday so I couldn't do your podcast. Yeah. But my wife, beautiful, awesome chick that she is, gets another girl who likes her on one of her, one of this, it's a Facebook, just like the other couple,

there's Facebook secret groups. Yeah. We're in one of those two. And my wife was talking this other girl in there who asked if my wife could take her to an event because I can't tell you what the event is, but my wife, besides her job, also does events where she's quite the badass. Right. And so they want to take her to that. So we take her, and we all three hit it off, and she came on with us.

So Saturday night, we had a three-sum with a girl, and we went for three hours. It was amazing. We had so much fun. We only took two breaks, and we just kept going and going and going. Right. That was awesome. Then on Tuesday, we had our regular date. that we'd already set up with our other unicorn, and it also went really well.

It didn't go for three hours, but it was great. And wait, and it's Tuesday that we're talking, and your wife is on a date with someone? Is she with a guy or a unicorn? Who's she was with? My wife is such a slut. She's with another guy. So she has to go to another town for her dental appointment. So when she went down there this time, somebody down, it's a town we used to be from,

somebody down there with a city owner for weeks and weeks and weeks now. So while she's down there for her dental appointment, she went ahead and saw him in the afternoon. Wow. Okay. So wait. Let's go back a little bit because you go from like you were saying in the beginning, she's like a little nervous, you know, all the stuff. And now she's like, you know, hooking up with all these people.

So like we're like, and you also said that this first guy is the guy that blew you, right? When does that happen with that guy? Okay. I don't know when. I don't really remember. So after the first one, Yeah. Things just kind of started to happen where we would meet someone and we would do it.

And we did another, okay, you know what? I'm not sure where this fit in either because it's been a long time. I should have rolled stuff down like a diary, but I didn't keep track of me. My life right now is so crazy, amazing fun that it's hard for me to believe it's going on. Yeah. But going back to the beginning, we did meet this other couple. And I think it was after our first experience. I'm almost certain of it because I remember talking to them about it.

They came over. they were a little bit older than their pictures were, which was a little bit disappointing to us. But they come over to our little apartment. At the time, we were in a tiny little apartment in where we were. Yeah. And so they show up. And he just spends a whole time for like four hours.

They just talk to us. And we're still doing this and we're waiting for things to get going that are not. And he's like bragging about his boat and bragging about his this, bragging about his that. It was just boring. Yeah. And so we finally got to the situation, and I was just spent and not even interested. She was a pillow princess, so she's just laying there.

And he's done really fast with my wife. So we were just like, okay, let's just not do this again. We were completely disappointed in the couple things altogether. It was not fun at all. It was way too much talking. My wife's not about talking. Right, right, right. She didn't get into action.

Right. Yeah, she wanted to get into the action. And so did I. I wasn't interested in talking. really not for four hours yeah so it didn't that didn't work out we never talked to them again then uh you went back to the guy oh i can tell you about the other guy so so he um kind of he didn't even really ask just while he was one time at the like the second or third time we'll pick them i think his profile said he was by so it wasn't like surprised or anything it didn't

bottom. Yeah. But he, while he was having sex with my wife and she was sucking my cock, he just leaned down and started sucking my cough too. Right. And my wife went crazy for it. She loved it. It turned her on a lot.

She likes to watch gay videos, too, so she's kind of into that. Right. Oh, okay. So you knew that ahead of time. You always knew that about it. I know she already liked it. Right. I didn't know how I was going to feel about it.

Yeah, yeah. Because nothing like that ever interested me. and nothing like that ever happened to me. So I didn't know how I was going to feel about it at all until it happened. And it was really, I'm indifferent to it. It's, it is what it is. It's a dude sucking on your cough. Is it great?

No. Is it okay? Somebody's stuck under your cop. So it could be worse. Right. Right. Yeah, that's it. I like that take, you know, it's super honest, you know.

I mean, because I've heard all kinds of stories. I thought you were going to be one of the guys who was like, oh, yeah. I let, I'm not by, but I let guys suck my dick all the time. Like, you know, like, I've heard a lot of stuff like that, you know. Yeah, I'm sure that's true. And I'm sure why dudes like that. And it's not that I don't. It's just, I don't, I'm kind of indifferent about it.

Right. Right. And she decided now that she's not into it as much, so that means I don't have to do it anymore. Oh, and I was going to say, though, what I was going to say that, like, you had, like, the ultimate, you had a woman that was like really into it. So if you really had that desire or were secretly by or always kind of secret, you know, there's no reason why you wouldn't have gone there because everything was available for you. Like you had that you were hooking up with the bisexual guy.

Yeah. So you weren't really that into it. And that was the only time it happened. No, it didn't happen just the once. It happened a couple of times with you. I was just saying that now she's. she's not as much into it as she was then she i think it was more of a so he blew you more than once i thought you said you only got a guy blow you once or you only

had one guy blow you and he blew you multiple times yeah one guy who blew me more than once oh okay and one thing you didn't really blow me he just kind of sucked down a little bit while he was doing something else yeah yeah and it was never good it never got better with him and it was always you were always indifferent. I would, yeah, I would never, yeah, I would never go to that dude for it if I was a dude who liked it either. Right, right, right, I get it. He obviously, he needs more practice.

Right. So wait, so when do you start to go? When do you decide to like try another couple? Let me ask you this because I hear a lot of other couples. Like everyone has different sort of rules, regulations, right? I want to hear like, did you guys going in like in the early stages like during this time, right? like rules with each other at all? So we have very few rules.

We've never had a lot. And it's because we both went into this talking to each other face to face eye to eye exactly what we wanted to do. And when we first got together, we were working together. And we ended up on a trist when we were on a work function in another state. And she was like, no kissing. And all these things. And I was like, no, that's not going to happen.

So I grabbed her and kissed her because I'm not going to. She said no kissing to you. Right, right, right. I get it. Okay. Uh-huh. So then when we get ready to do this, none of that came up. We didn't try to put a bunch of rules on it because we knew it was just going to be, you know, the other couple of you talked to some of how they kind of got rid of all their rules anyway.

We've really never had very many. Yeah. Mostly if she's going to go out and do something, it's because I have something else I have to do anyway. Right. rather than she has a date because she has a date, and then I'm sitting home by myself. That almost never happens. It's always because I have to go get my kid or something else is going on.

Right. And then she does that while I'm gone. And there wasn't even rules like you can't see people without me. I mean, it was just open like that from the beginning. Because, I mean, I... Oh, I guess, yeah, you're right. There was that. When we first started, we were only going to play together.

That's true. Yeah, you're right. Right. So we were only going to play together. Uh-huh. But see, I was into all these... I was into these videos I like to watch about high. hot wiping and all that stuff. So one time my

wife comes home and says, do you know what hot wiping is? What is hot wiping? You know what that is? Well, it's like it's whenever your wife can go out and have sex with somebody else. I kind of have to approve the whole thing, but then she can go out and have sex with somebody else and come home. Right. Okay. So

she came home to say that because apparently some guy liked her and wanted to get with her and she liked him but so he's talking to her about that. So she comes up to ask me I'm like, you know what? Let's try it. Right.

And we fucking dug it. We could do the phone sex about it beforehand. Like if she's going to meet this person and I'm going to go pick up my kid, it's going to take me a long time to get him and come back as he's in another city. While I'm gone, she's going to do this. So we're texting back and forth all day long about how hot this is going to be. Yeah. And then she makes sure that she sends me all the information about who he is.

What she does, it takes a picture of her license and his license together when she meets him. She's never met him before. Oh, that's smart. And then she gives me the addresses wherever she's going to be. The address is where she is at the time. And then she checks in with me every hour or so to make sure everything's all right. So I don't worry about it. Right.

And then we have it. It's just a great time. So it's really fun because she gets to have these great experiences and come home. And then she gets to tell me about them while I'm fucking her and that's fucking hot. Right. And I've heard of other couples that do pictures or some people like, you know, take video. Yeah, yeah, sometimes. Right, and that's what it's all about.

So you got into the hot wife thing. And now do you see a girl's two on the side? You do as well? So that is starting to happen. I've got a girl right now. So the Saturday night girl, I started texting her after we got together. And we're starting to hit it off. I told her I'd like to see her by ourselves and that my wife was all about it.

So she's excited about it. So she's trying to make time so we can do that. So yes, I will be, but we've only been doing this for a short time. And to have already had, you know, some just girls like that is amazing to me. So before I met my wife, I didn't even know girls were like this anyway because my ex-wife and all the girls I'd ever dated before were much more prudish. And I had no idea that girls like you see on TV and movie and stuff even really existed. It's incredible to me that this is going on.

And because you were friends with her and you worked with her, right? you were friends. Like, did you know she was kind of like open-minded or was she even maybe not like that either in her life before you? So this is really cool because we didn't. We both knew each other. Yeah. And we both liked each other. I hired her.

I was her boss. So I hired her for her first job out of college. Uh-huh. I liked her for, we worked together at different places for about 12 years or 13 years. Oh, wow. So our families had hung out. We knew each other. I knew she was a great girl.

You guys are very similar to my last couple, by the way. It is very similar. It's very similar. I knew how great a person she was. I knew how great a mother she was. Yeah. I knew that she kept a clean house. I knew that she was a good person.

Yeah. And then she apparently had a crush on me from the time I hired her. So we just knew each other all that time. For the 12 years, we'd never even thought about doing anything like this with each other. Because you were married to other people? Right. So when she got divorced from her husband, I'm like, I got to do this before I miss my chance. Because if somebody else finds out what a great girl this is, I'm never going to get a chance to be with this. Now, you were already divorced too. Yeah, we were both divorced, so it just happened to all happen perfectly, not perfectly together like that.

Right. And what's the age difference between you guys? Yeah, yeah. What's the age difference? Three years. Three years. Okay, cool. And so you guys hooked up once while you were away on work together. But you had always, you kind of wanted her and knew that this was your time, right, the minute. That was it. Once we looked up at the work thing. Uh-huh. Once we looked up the work thing, that was it. We were, we've been inseparable, really, ever since then.

And when did the conversation start between you guys about all this, like, stuff, right? Because I'm assuming it didn't, these conversations didn't take place before you guys hooked up. As far as, like, you know, going to a swinger party together and, like, you know, doing that kind of stuff. Because a lot of people don't even know how to broach that. in a relationship really. So I think it mainly happened because we both like to talk dirty in sex. Uh-huh. And so you start just saying things to turn the other person on.

Yeah. Or you start saying things to turn you on, hoping it'll turn them on. And then as you start to see, the other person's eyes let up here, you're like, we should just talk about this and try this stuff. Right. So we were just talking about stuff. And then eventually it becomes, yeah, yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, let's try that.

Uh-huh. So I guess that's how it happened. But it's hard to remember like the exact conversation. It wasn't like we sat down, I don't think, and said, we eventually sat down and said we wanted to do it. But I don't remember how we decided we were going to start. Well, you know, you really hit the jackpot, I have to say, because you liked her for all the right reasons first, right? I mean, and you had no idea that all this other stuff, right? Normally it would be backwards, right?

Like, someone would be like, oh, this girl's into all this stuff. Like, I'm totally going to like like her whole. hopefully she's, like, good in all these other areas. I mean, you liked her, like you said, for all the right reasons. Like, you knew she was a good mom. She was, like, a good person. She kept her house. Right.

Like, you know. Oh, my God. You got her. So, yeah. And when we got together, it was absolutely explosive. But the thing is, we sat almost, we sat even next to each other at work all time. We talk about it a lot. She's like, I can't believe we sat together all that time.

And she was very quiet at work, like the rest of us. Yeah. The rest of us are all boisterous and saying a dirty step to each other. all time and teasing each other and calling each other name. But she would sit there very quiet but she was a dirty freak without ever saying. And you had no idea. And then like I said

you liked her for all the right reasons and you wanted to like get with her the minute she was a and then it turns out she has this other thing that is like amazing on top of all that stuff. Amazing. Right? I mean you get the jackpot. Our love life was incredible. Right. And you said you had like the best sex right away

even before right? Like the sex was like amazing when you guys hooked up. Amazing. It was mind-blowing. Our first time together we were, I guess it was pent up for like that whole 12 years because you always like each other for a long time, something like that. And what happened, we went crazy for like four hours of first night. We went at it again for four hours the next night. It was insane.

It was so crazy that you can't even, like you can't even move the next day. Yeah. And we had to go to a show to go and, you know, shake hands and do all. these classes and stuff and you can't even concentrate because that's all you're thinking about is this wonderful girl that you're with right and especially somebody that you knew for so long and you were close to in every other way and you had no idea yeah yeah yeah yeah and now there's this other layer i have crossed the line with a very good friend that but i didn't ever what i was never attracted to him right but we did wind up fooling around out of nowhere and it was like this

amazing thing and it was and there was so much chemistry and i did realized that like that the friendship the 15 year friendship that was behind it added to and then being sexual with that person and having that foundation it did add to the sex I think I mean we had like amazing chemistry but also having knowing someone for so long and then having that on top of it definitely makes it really hard I think for sure and you had that with her yeah you had that but so then you guys start because you're dirty talking right and you start and now because a lot of other couples, too. The other thing that a lot of other couples say to me, most of the

couples that are on here, and I have a feeling that this isn't you guys, they do a lot of, like, vetting with couples, and they're very picky, and they want to talk a lot and really make sure that, like, the couple is, like, the right for them. I have a feeling that you guys aren't really that way.

So we're kind of half and half on that. We're very, because we already know what we are and what we're already happy together, we're not looking for like best friends although it'd be nice now that we've been doing it for a while we're all kind of looking more for people who we could sit down and talk about one of the reasons I wanted to do this is because this is so amazing to me but it's something you can't really talk about so I can talk to about it yeah but it's so much fun I think that if other people knew how much fun

this was everyone else would be doing it I don't see why you wouldn't I hear the excitement and just the way you talk you're just like excited person. I don't know if it's just your personality type. It's just like it just comes across as like you're like a kid in the candy store. You know what I mean? Just like. That's exactly what it's like. You walk into a party.

This is how we met her. I'm sorry. I kept jumping around story. No, that's fine. This is how we met our unicorn. We went to this party and it was a school girl party. So my wife's dressed up in a school girl outfit's fucking gorgeous, amazing.

And I went, dressed in a little like a white shirt and pants like a principal type thing. Uh-huh. And this girl walks by, I have no idea anything else does about her other than that she was fucking cute and,

and I liked it. So as soon as she walked by me, I just grabbed her, I just lightly grabbed her. I was going to say I snatched, I was lightly grabbed by the arm and just started whispering in her ear. And then she walked on by and I didn't think anything about it. And then she came back over

and so I was talking to it. And I'm like, yes. So then she starts telling my wife how much she likes her outfit and they start talking. And then we all just went in the bedroom and went at it. And it was just a crazy thing. Just literally, because of the situation it was, it's like a dominant role you're playing. Yeah. And then there in the schoolgirl, the submissive role, it was so easy just to, you know, whispered nasty Shidner ear and then her to come back to you.

It was just perfect. Right. Mm-hmm. It was really fun. So that was a great, that was how we did, how we met her first unicorn. I probably got off track of something else you already asked me. No, that's okay. And then the second one, your, she, your girl met separately, right?

Yeah. Like on her own. Yeah. Yeah. And that was awesome. She found her. But did she know, because, like, you first started with a guy, right? When did she decide that she wanted to, I mean, was she always by before?

Did she know she was, had she ever been with women, or did she start this with you? She started with me, and she's not very bi. She's what you call heteroflexible. Right. What does that mean? Exactly. See, we were trying to figure out what to call her, because if there's something there, if there's another person in the room, my wife will please them.

Okay. Whether it's male or female, it doesn't matter to her. But she's not going to look up and try to get with a girl by herself. It just doesn't interest her like that. She likes cock as a rule. In fact, if she could decorate my house with all cocks, that's what she would put everywhere. Stop. I knew a guy that wanted breasts, wanted tits like that.

He's like, I would just put them all over the walls. Like, you know what I mean? Just grab them all the time. She would like cocks all over. All over the walls. That's what she would want, just everywhere. Hilarious. Yeah.

So she's the person who can see any building or anything and see, that's a kind of. cock, a cactus, that's a cock, anything. Right, oh, that's so funny. So she just decided to do it because it was around, and like you say, that's what heteroflexible is. That makes sense. Yeah, I like it. I wanted to see her with another girl

and she said she was good with that. And now she likes it. I mean, she didn't not like it at first. The first time she did it, we were at a party. We were at this Halloween party and it was going swimmingly, all having a good time. nothing's really happening like we're not really getting a lot accomplished.

We're just having a good time. Oh, yeah, we didn't get a lot of accomplished together, but she did blow the DJ. After that, we went to the back room and they had one of those machines where we just did on one of those. I think they're called Simeon. I'm not sure. Yeah. They're apparently fairly unflexible and uncomfortable. So she tried it out, didn't like it.

but the operator guy was there and he was like, hey, you all want to, so we did, we all started messing around. But then this other couple came in and the girl from the other couple just literally jumped on my wife and she's just like, hi, blah, blah, blah, nice to meet you guys.

And then my wife was busy with this guy, like she couldn't even see her face because she was buried in this guy's croc. So this girl starts eating her pussy and everything's going really well. And then when my wife finally comes out from underneath, the girl goes, oh, she's so pretty. It was really funny.

Oh my God, that's hilarious. The girl said my wife was really crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so funny because she had no idea. It was really hilarious. But that was my wife's first experience with another girl, was that right there. So she's never done anything like that until right then. Right.

Since then, we've had couples over. And almost every couple we've been with, the girl is either heteroflexible or, you know, bye. I don't think we've been with a couple. And our experience only been five or six, but I don't think we've been with a couple that didn't have a bisexual girl. Right. And so your girl is kind of like you indifferent to it, or she'll do it because it's around and she knows you like it?

Sort of, but also she's a pleaser like that. She is a wildcat in bed, so she will do, she never stops, never stops moving. Right. It's wonderful because you can, so if you're with somebody like that, you can, if there's somebody else in the room and they're just sitting, sitting there for even a minute, she's going to be on, so they're also having a good time, right? So there's never a dull moment. Right.

And that's it. Let me ask you this real quick, because you were both married to other people and you knew each other for a really long time. Like, did your exes, because I'm assuming you had kids, so they're still around, you know, like, did they have a problem with you guys hooking up after? Like, how did that sort of work out since everybody knew each other for so long before? and then all of a sudden you guys are together. Like, did your ex-wife and her ex-husband freak out, or was they cool with it?

Nobody really freaked out. I don't think either we're surprised. I like crazy surprise because whenever we would go camping as families, she and I would always be cooking together because, and we just, we liked the same things. So it just never, I don't really think they were that surprised. Oh, really? But I don't know. I haven't really talked to them about it either, either one of them.

Right. Okay. So I don't know why I asked that. I was just wondering. Because you know. That's all right. It's a good question. Because you guys were to sew together and your families were all together, you know.

And so then, and did you both have kids? Do you both have kids? Yeah, I have two and she has one. And are they around the same age? Were they always friends? Yeah, they are actually friends. And they're not, they're all about three or four years apart. It's like I think they're maybe closer to five years apart.

He's 20 or 21. My oldest sister in 18. and my youngest is 13. Right, okay. So they were cool with it and everything worked out. Yeah, the kids, you mean? Yeah, uh-huh. Well, they all seem to be fine with it.

Right, okay. Yeah, I don't know. The suckiest part is I had to move to a different town to get a better job, and I don't get to see my kids as much, and that really is hard. But other than that, everything seems good on that part. Right, it works. So after that first couple, like you said, it wasn't so great,

How did you go about finding your next, your second couple, like after that? So we actually took, we actually took like three or four months and we didn't do anything because it was just, it was just like, this sucks. Right. The party was kind of lame. Yeah. Our first time was kind of lame. This couple sucked.

And we were just like, this isn't, we're not going to get this. So when we first started doing this, it was all up to me. I was doing all the work online and kind of searching everything out. And she gets on as soon as she decided, okay, let's try it again. So then she gets on the website. She changes up our profile, doctors it up and makes it much better because she's a girl and they can do that. Yeah.

I'm a guy. I just put up the things I think I'd want to hear. Yeah. But that's not what girls want to hear, so you're not going to get them to respond. So I don't know what I'm doing. But she does. So she rewrites it and all of a sudden we're getting all these responses from everybody.

And so then we met other nicer couples. But they weren't nice. You understand. We just weren't compatible. It just didn't work out. Yeah. And we've had a lot more fun since then. We have one couple we met a few weeks ago that came to our house and had dinner.

That's the other thing. I'll cover that a minute. And we all had a great time. And I think we will probably get together again. But they're very busy and we're very busy. So it's hard to meet up. Yeah. It's hard to get four people together in the same place.

Right. But we first tried that first time we did that hotel room because, you know, we're new to all this. We don't know what we're doing. And we're just trying to make everything as safe as we can. We're still very safe about this stuff. we're still very cautious, like I told you about the licenses and all that. But now we do it at our house. It's cheaper and we're more comfortable here.

And we can host because there's no kids around most of the time. Right. And so you were just about to say something that you're like, oh, I'll get back to that. That was what I was coming. I was going to say that is the, that we used to, we tried the hotel rooms at first. And now we'd rather do it at places. We have, I don't want to tell you all the stories the first time. We can talk again.

Yeah. But wait, let me ask you this because you told me, I think in the email or just like that you, you do tell other people about this. It's not like you totally keep this as secret. Like some of your friends know, right? And what about her friends? So I cannot, this is something that's so, my life right now is so unbelievable that only my best friends that I talk to. Yeah. Would you even believe me because it's crazy. And it told people, hey, My wife brought another girl home, and then on Tuesday we're doing it again. No one would believe that. Right, right, right. But I have two friends that I confide in that I can tell, and I talk to them on the phone by, I actually text back and forth with them about it because I just have to tell somebody.

And what about even, I mean, listen, that's every guy's fantasy, like, oh, to see, you know, my girl with another girl. But a lot of guys, and because I talk about this, a lot of my podcast, is a lot of guys have the fantasy, and I learned this by doing my show. about seeing their wife with another guy, right? And they think that's really hot. But a lot of my guy friends, when I first started doing the show and telling them, a lot of my guy friends were like,

oh, my God, I would never want to see my girl with a guy. So, like, you know, when you told your guy friends that you were into that, were any of them like, oh, my God, I would never, I wouldn't be into that. Like, because I think a lot of people don't know that they would be into it, you know, and stuff. Like, I see it very differently now because I've talked to so many people about it. But a lot of people that don't know about it

or never tried it or, you know, there, a lot of guys that I know had that reaction where I was like, oh, I would never want to see my wife, you know, so were any of your guy friends that you confide in were like, oh my God, how could you let her fuck another guy? So neither of the two guy friends

I can find him were like that. One of them, the first woman said, oh, my God, me and one of my exes used to do stuff like that. And so he wants to hear all about it because it reminds him of that. And he's he's about 10 years older than I am. And he doesn't, he doesn't even have a woman right now and he just he kind of lives through me with it he just wants to give a story yeah yeah yeah

sure right okay tell him about why he can listen to those stories on my podcast yeah right the other one the other was a more conservative guy he wants to he only wants to hear the little nibbles he doesn't want the whole story because it goes too far for him but he goes I would never have the gut to do what you guys are doing right so he just wants to hear the little nibbles of it and now what about your wife does she tell any of her friends? Yes. She told, it's hard for me to explain this part, and I don't know if I want you to air it, so. But she, so she has, though, told some of her friends.

Yes. Right. Okay. And they're cool with it and whatever. Yeah, most of her friends are, yeah, they're all over the place, yeah, but they're all cool with it. And now, is she surprised with, like, all the stuff that she was wound up being into? Because, like you said, at the beginning, she, she's.

was like a little, I mean, you guys were dirty talkers and like you were into the sex with each other, but to go do all these other things is a whole different sort of world, right, to go into. Yeah, we talk about it a lot. We can't believe that we're into doing this. We can't believe we're with somebody else who's into doing this. We can't believe how much we're both into doing this. Right. It's just, it's like, it's like a perfection that's not right in the world.

Like it doesn't feel like it's ever, like it's supposed to happen. Right. Because it's so great. because everything else I have terrible luck with, and so does she, but somehow together we work like this in a way that is so incredible, it's explosive. Right, and now, let me ask you this.

Do you, are you guys, like, particular about, like, do you guys have types, what you like? Is your girl a size queen? Like, does she have a specific type of guy that she likes, and were you with women? I mean, what kind of people do you guys hook up with? Wait, I can't hear you. I can hear you start over again?

I said she's very athletic. Uh-huh. And like I said, she's a nine. So she can have whatever she wants. Right. But what she likes is like bearded dudes with tattoos. Okay. And if they ride a Harley, then she's really, really happy.

So that's what she likes. Uh-huh. And what about you? Do you have a type or, I mean, you know, and do you guys, like, do you guys find that in your Swinger community that you're, it's mostly older people or younger? How old are you guys? we're in our 40s I'm 46 and she's younger

yeah so I do have a type but my type is like her we're both flexible a lot on this stuff yeah if if a guy like me can be charismatic and can you know come at her with law of confidence then she's probably going to like that guy a lot better yeah but if you come at her with a beard and tattoos

and you have a Harley you might not need that to yeah yeah right right to turn her on uh-huh So, but for me, it's much more, I like a good shapely girl, and I don't want skinny girls. But again, I'm open. Right, right, right. I like a girl with a little bit of meat on her. I don't want them to be huge, but, you know, a little bit, a good size butt, good boobs, and a pretty face. And I don't, I love redheads, but I'm not, it's not necessary.

So like that, I guess. Okay. And now, do you find these kind of people? Like are the people attractive that you meet at these parties? Like is it easy to find people that you guys are into when you go to these Swinger parties? Or do you mostly find them online? No.

It's not easy at all. The swinger parties are more, I don't know if they're older than us. I think they seem like they are. Uh-huh. They're more sedentary than us. Uh-huh. And they are all very much in little clicky groups and we kind of feel a little outside. We're getting better because now we're in these groups.

that go to the party, so we're meeting some of the other people. But it is hard. This is a difficult thing to do. It's really great fun, but it's like dating over and over and over again. But you do have the security of a relationship underneath. Right. And you have somebody doing it with you. You're not alone.

Yes. Somebody to talk to about it and have fun with. And it is fun. But it's work. You know, it's work. You've got to text people back and forth all the time. You've got to get involved with there. You said four people to meet up and the same time and everything, right.

Yeah. Now, has there ever been any kind of jealousy or anything like that, any kind of issues like that with you guys in the beginning? Yes, I think that, yeah, of course. But it's always been very little. I am not a jealous person very much at all. I'm very relaxing. I've had ex-girlfriends complain that I wasn't jealous enough.

I have one of my first really heavy girlfriends. would flirt with somebody, and I wouldn't care because I knew she was with me. Right. And I don't date beautiful girls because I don't want anybody to look at them. I think that's really stupid. Right. I like when somebody hits on my girl because it means my girl's hot. Right.

And you like when someone else fucks your girl, too. So eventually, yeah. When I'm younger, I didn't know anything about that I'd be into that. Right, but you are. Right. I'm into it. Right. It's great.

Right. Right. Right. I wonder if somebody that was. Because I know she's come home with me. Right. Exactly. And did you always know that you were going to be into that?

Like was that a fantasy of yours? Or did it just sort of like happen when you guys decided to be with that guy? And then you realized like, oh, watching her with another guy was like so hot. No, I definitely think I had the fantasy before that. I don't think it would have happened. I don't think you can possibly make that happen if you don't already have a fantasy like that. I think the guy would be too jealous about it if you didn't already have such things to think about. I don't know, maybe.

I don't know. Not me, though. I certainly did already have the fantasy, but I don't know for how long. Like, I don't remember thinking about that as a teenager. I was really into two girls and me as a teenager. That was the dream all the time. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

And also, just any girl come to me would be great. You know, any girl, please. Right. Right. And now you said you haven't had a lot of couples. How many couples have you been with in the two years? tell you exactly. I would say four, maybe five, but I might forgot someone.

And none that you really click, like, are any of them been people that like, are they mostly like one-offs, you're with them one time, or like have any couple been? Mostly. Mostly. One couple recently, we liked, they liked us. We'd keep texting back and forth, but it's really hard to get together. They're out of

this town. And then recently, we were out of town, so it's hard to hook up because they also still have kids at home. And then we had another couple before that where she really liked the guy. and I don't really get on with the girl. It's not that I'll get on with her. It's that she is like talking to a sheet of paper

and she's a pillow princess. So she's not interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's not interesting and she's not interesting again. Right, I hear it. But she digs him. So he's actually one of the guys who she sees every once in a while. So she'll go out with it.

She'll actually meet him here for a lunch date, I don't know, twice a month or so. And now your girl has she? she ever been jealous at all or are there ever been issues for her at all with you? Yeah, when we first got together, she thought she was going to be really jealous about it and she was really worried about it. Uh-huh. But as we've gone into it and gotten into it more and more, she's not at all now. But at first, she certainly had to deal with those issues more than I did, but I still

had to deal with them too. There was still things that, you know, made my stomach turn over a little bit when I would see. But I liked it at the same time. But yeah, she had more of that to deal with than I did. Right. So there would be times, Warden, you would be watching her with someone else that it would make you feel some sort of uncomfortable feeling that wasn't right, but the feelings that it was like hot were way stronger. Yes, like that. Right. It's fucked up and weird, but it is true. That's the fact that I make sense. I mean, that's like that's like very truthful, right? Like, I mean, you could put yourself in that situation and understand that both of those things could be happening at the same time, right?

Yeah. Anybody who listens to this should should. know that they're going to have similar feelings maybe. And so I think it's better just to be as honest as I can with answer your questions. So everybody else listen to can say, well, yeah, now I feel like that too, like that guy I listen to. So it's better than going about going, well, I have no idea this is the way I should feel.

Yeah, no. I mean, that's why I ask all these questions because I think that there's people listening on the other end, couples maybe that are thinking about it or, you know, and this is like how people learn, you know, right? And just from people that have been there, done that, right? And you could like, and I always, like, I asked the other couple, I'll ask you, like, what do you think? You know, you guys are super successful at it, right?

You've been to get married, you know, you have a successful relationship and you're successfully, like, swinging and have a very open relationship. And what do you think is like the, I mean, you're so similar to the other couple that it's probably going to be the same thing. I mean, because you just have this great friendship and this great communication with each other because you know each other for so long. what would you say is the key to being so successful like you guys are? It is communication. You have to talk about it. If you can't talk to her face-to-face texture about it and then talk about it because some things are going to come up where you're like,

I don't really want to say this, but then you can text her like when you're at work and you can talk about it. Then when you get home, you can talk about it easier. Or the same thing happened the other way. Right. But you have to talk about anything that's bothering you. You have to talk about it. Anything that happens that you don't really like you have to talk about it.

Anything that happens you do like, you have to talk about it. It's just a constant communication of what's going on. We'll just be sitting there watching TV. And at the same time, having this conversation about what we're thinking about, about the swinging stuff. And this is almost the only, we both have a bunch of hobbies that we do outside of this. But this is almost all-consuming outside of the things we already have commitments to. Right.

So it's not like we're taking anything new because this is what we do now. Right. It takes up a lot of your time. Let me ask you this. Where are the places? Like, where did you go to find that first swingers party? Like, you know, to attend. Yeah, the place we went was a website called SLS.

SLS. Swing lifestyle. Right. Yeah, everybody's heard. That's the biggest one. It's so, I don't want to be an advertisement for them. because I don't make any money from it. But it costs almost nothing to join for your lifetime.

And once you're in for a lifetime, and you just meet people. And they have all kinds, the website's awful. And so it's terrible. But once you meet the people on there, then you can get them on to, you know, you can start talking to them on kick or something like that that's a lot more accessible and easier to use.

Right. But on there, the site's not easy to use. That's where all the people are, so that's where you go. Right. So there's real people, real couples there. Yeah. Are there many unicorns on there or no, or just mostly couples? No.

Couples. If they're on there, every once you see them on there, but it's not like approaching them on there is just going to be like a needle in a haystack. Right. In my opinion, I might be wrong. But if you're trying to approach a unicorn on there, so is everybody else. So how do you do it? And it's like winning the lottery. Right.

For me, it's been much better letting her. find them for the second one and meeting the first one at the party and honestly I think we've just been extremely lucky because I don't know that this would happen this way for anyone else right or it's not supposed to happen to me because unicorns are supposed to be so rare you're never supposed to find one right that's why they call it the unicorns say to me I know yeah we have two crazy right yeah you're you're very you're doubly lucky right because your girl and the unicorns it's crazy lucky I mean think about your younger self, right? Like when you were young and you were like

your biggest fantasy was like two girls, right? Like if you could go back to that young guy and be like, don't worry, this is what's going to happen to you when you're this age. Like, he wouldn't believe it. Where, right, I can't hear you. Say that again. To give you an idea of how much I wanted that, I did get lucky

when I was younger. I met a girl where I lived at before in another state. Yeah. She moved to this state and I came out to visit her. And while I was out here, visiting her, she set up, because she knew my fantasy about that. Yeah. And she was a crazy girl.

I come out to visit her and she sent up a reason with her and a friend of hers. Right. And it was, that was my very first time ever having two girls. And I was blown away. Right. It was amazing to me. So I actually moved to this state hoping that would happen again. It never did.

Right. So then I get married, have kids, 15 years goes by, that marriage doesn't work out. And I meet this girl. Lynn and now we're having this time we're having. So it's just, it's like that. You know, you wait. And we talk about that all the time, see and I, about how, you know, we sat together all that time.

We knew each other all the time and never knew how great this could be. And, you know, we've wasted so much of our life not doing this stuff, not having great time, just with each other, not even this other stuff we're doing. Yeah. And so now we're really trying to live. We've burned our candle at both ends all the time. That's good. Work hard, play hard.

Work hard and when we get home, there's never a night when we don't have anything to do. When there's a night, we don't have anything to do. We both look at each other like, how does this happen? And you're out. Well, right. And now, today you're talking to me, but she's on a day. Yeah. Yeah.

She should be home any time now. Now, did you go, we were going to have her on the call. Maybe next time when you call it and give more stories, would she be, she'd be into being on the call, right? Oh, very much. So she was really excited and wanted to do it. So the problem is if I try to schedule things, I fuck it up because she keeps the calendar and she keeps the schedule. And she's good at it. She's giving me the calendar.

So I'm shared with it. But I stuck at this stuff. So I called her and said, is this okay? She said yes. But then she realized she had this other thing set up. And so then she told me no, we couldn't. So that's why I told you we had to move it another day. Yeah.

And then I still fucked it up anyway. I said she just let her do it No but that's good It's cool because I like that being you got like all this other Like we got all the initial stuff down She'll probably give me more information When we talk to her Because I think girls always like

Remember more and know more details than guys right Like you know So she'll probably add to some stuff When we talk to her too And then you guys could tell us more stories When you're on together You know what I mean Because like I said

She's going to listen to this, right? She's going to listen to this, and she's probably going to be sitting next to you being like, why don't you say this? And then you should have said that, right? She's probably going to have a lot more to add. And I think that, you know, people will want to hear from her as well. I think you're fairly intuitive on that. I think that that's fairly true, and she probably will.

Right. So we'll have you back on with her because I think people will love to hear her side of things, you know. Yeah. Because the other unicorn besides the girl that wants. to, you know, do all those things with couples is like the girl, just a woman who's just loves sex. Like, who's that, what is, what, people want to talk to the woman who wants to decorate her house with Cox, okay?

Like, people want to. That is my wife, but. Yeah. That unicorn, our first unicorn, I want to get her to come here and talk to. I think she will. She's super open. Yeah. Super easy to talk to.

She's, uh, she's a riot. She's funny. And she, uh, she'll, uh, she'll, uh, she'll, say anything at all that's on her mind. Right. She will tell you any story you ask about and she's got stories that will curl your toes. Yeah, well, I think this is the thing though.

Yeah, no. I think, you know, the next time we speak, right, we're going to wrap this up because this is like a perfect first episode. We talk with you and your wife and why don't I do the unicorn separate? Like she could have her own podcast because imagine her story. Yeah, that would be great. It's fine.

Perfect. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, if you want to wrangle her, to call in, that would be great. I'd love to have her. But like I would, she's like, she's a whole, she has her whole, a whole history that I'd have to get into with her. You know what I mean? So I'd like to do. She's definitely the one you want to hear. Yeah, for sure. We do her separately. But the next time I want you guys to call in, I want you and your wife. Get her emailing me to set up the point of the time when you guys are both going to call in. And we'll get some more background, some more information about her and some more stories. Okay. So I look forward to hearing back from you. We've got to schedule the next part two when your wife comes on. Okay. All right.

We'll talk soon. Thanks so much for calling in. All right. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye, James. Bye.

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