Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 291 - Tommy Likes Exposing himself to Much Older Guys

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

Tommy calls in to talk about how he likes to expose himself to much older guys. Tune in to hear all about how he went from exposing himself online to exposing himself in person, what does he like to do with the older guys, what he doesn't like to do, why he prefers much older guys to younger guys, how he feels about keeping this part of his life a secret and a whole lot more.  PLUS as an added bonus he gives out his email address in case a much older guy listening is interested in meeting up with him online. Make sure to listen to the end for his info if you're interested. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, this is a call-in-vice show where I give Total Strangers my unprofessional advice. I also talk to people about their secret lives and their interesting lives. If you want to call in, send an email at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at g-mail.com or go to Strictly Anonymous Podcast.

and click on be on the show. Today I do wind up giving my advice to somebody. I didn't think it was going to turn into that, and that's how it goes sometimes. This was a guy that wrote in and said that he wanted to call in because he has, his name is Tommy, and he's a happily married guy,

but he has this thing where he really likes to expose himself to much older guys. He claims to be and is totally head row. He doesn't do anything other than expose himself. in front of guys. It started out camming and doing it online, and then it sort of rolled into him doing it in real life. And that's something that is a secret part of his life,

and his wife doesn't know about it. And so that's where the vice thing comes in because he doesn't really feel good about it. You got to hear it. I didn't really expect that to sort of happen, but it did. And just so you know, you have to listen towards the end because it winds up that, I don't think either one of us thought that this would be a thing,

but towards the end, we figure out. both of us together that it would be like maybe a good thing for him to do is a shout-out looking for older guys much older guys that are interested in having him be on cam with them so he could keep his sort of exhibitionist fantasy online as opposed to meeting people because he doesn't feel good about the in-person thing because it's such a sort of cheating kind of thing behind his wife's back but the cam stuff isn't and so he's looking for older and when I say older I mean you could be 7980 and this guy is into it that's what he's looking for and he's not 79 or 80 he's like 35 we give some of his stats you could get all the information about what he likes and what he's into it and what he

doesn't like on this episode and then towards the end like I said he gives an email for you to reach out if you're looking for like a little boy toy but he has boundaries like I said he's very specific about what he's into what he's not into and what he's looking for so that's all interesting so sit back relax and listen to all that. And then like I said, if you're into responding to him or meeting up with him online, wait to the end because he gives his personal email address out and you can email him and get in touch. Okay.

So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Tommy. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you doing today? Good. Thanks so much for having me, Kathy. Yeah. Thank you for calling in. So you have a story that you set me in some details.

I know a little bit of what you do. do. It's very interesting. But my first question, before we get into this, like, freaky stuff that you do, I was wondering, because you're like a happily married guy, right? How long you've been married for it? We're coming up on five years now. Actually, look, I'm sorry. We just passed five year mark. So we've been together for eight and married for five. Okay, cool. And so then you got into all the stuff that you do, right, and that you're into and we're going to get into all that. But I was wondering if this is like a secret life or is this something that your wife knows about? out? No, it's definitely a secret life. She knows that, and we can get in this, she kind of knows in the past some things. When we first got together, I kind of disclosed a few things to her, but this side of me is just something I keep to myself. Right. So she knows that you sort of engaged in this kind of behavior, and we'll get into it, right, before she was around, but she doesn't know that you continued to engage in this behavior. while you're married to her or dating her or whatever and have you been doing it the whole time you've been with her it's like a total secret life uh yeah i mean it's i'd say it's kind of uh kind of ebbs and flows

you know sometimes i'm doing it a lot and sometimes you know months of not at all it's kind of but yeah i mean it's been off and all since while we've been we're dating and while we've been married right and now so your deal is this and you consider yourself totally straight right but you have this fetish it's definitely a fetish right because it's very specific that you like to see, you like to expose yourself and be watched by men, but they have to be older than you, right? And that's where the specific stuff is like so interesting to me, right?

Because you're like, this wouldn't turn you on if it was like with a guy your age or a couple of years older. Like it has to be that large age gap, right? And you like for them to watch you sort of and expose yourself to them. It's not like you're doing anything with them. or anything like that, right? Right.

And so I think the specific age thing I've kind of come to realize is, I think it's kind of tied into my straightness, for lack of better terms. I don't, guys, my age are younger. It's kind of, it feels like you're doing this with your buddies, and that's a huge turnoff for me. So if I'm doing this with men that are much older, and honestly, the older, the better, I mean, I really would prefer it, you know, 60 years and older.

And so it's really kind of more of that disconnect, I think, between anybody my age is just I prefer it to be much older. You think, though, because I think, I think like something else, but like who knows? Like that's an inch, like what I thought when I first read your story besides my first question of like your wife, does she know, I was thinking like, I wonder if something happened when he was younger with a much older guy, maybe that you know about, maybe that you don't know about, you know what I mean? And that sort of wired you to sort of have this specific fetish and interest and, you know, thing. But it's, I would never think what you did, but that's an interesting concept as well. That, like, it's not so much that that's what you're really into.

It's, it just is like, that's what winds up being left over when you take away what you wouldn't be into. And you wouldn't be into guys around your age because that would, you feel like that. that would mean more that like that you're gay or buy or something like that? Yeah. And it's not, I'm not, I've had obviously, you know, given the situations I've been in, there's been plenty of opportunities for me to explore, you know, that if I want it, it just is never, honest to God is just never really, you know, anything physical with, with another man touching or, you know, the male physique.

I mean, any way you look at it, it just, it doesn't really do anything for me. However, you know, having older men watch me is just a huge turn on for me. And I will say that it seems to be older guys get it as well. And I learned that pretty on too. We could pretty early on too and we could get into that. It seems that the older men are, well, first of all, honestly, a little more respectful. And they just kind of, they're just happy to have, you know, a younger guy, you know, get naked for them.

Yeah, of course. Duh. They're completely content with that. Where with younger guys, I've seen, I learned quickly, you know, just from being on cam or emails that, you know, they really, they really are, they really are convinced that I'm just kind of suppressing some kind of, you know, suppressing my, you know, gainess, I guess. And so they think they can convince me, you know, that, you know, you want to blow me, you know, you want to get fucked, you know, all those kinds of things.

and they just don't believe me when I say, I really don't, I just want to get naked in front of you. Right, whereas the older guy is just happy to have you getting naked, that he's not going to say anything that's going to fuck that up. Right. Totally. No, I think it's, you know, and that's why I kind of used the word mature when I've put out things before, you know, older, mature men that, you know, just want to have a younger guy come over and,

you know, show off. And they just seem to get it more. And maybe that's part of it too, because younger guys are a lot busier or two when it comes to this, they just typically, I've never done this in front of a younger guy in person, because honestly, they make me more nervous that they're going to want more than I'm willing to do. But let me ask you this, because you said in your email, I don't know if you said this yet, to me, but that you have been doing this since you're in your early 20s, right? I mean, this is not something that you just picked up.

How old are you now, by the way? I am 35. So you're 35. But you've been doing this a long time, right? And this is something you've been into on campus. and stuff like you've been exposing yourself to guys. Like, how old were you when you started? Well, so in my, definitely my mid-20s

was when I really started getting into this. Now, you know, backing up, I think I've always kind of been, ever since I can remember, I always like getting off in, like, I guess, risky areas. But at the same time, I'm a little different than some exhibitionist where I have. have no desire to be like to expose myself to people that don't want to see it. Right, right, right.

I'm not, you know, that makes me, and I mean, I'm not knocking other people that do. I just, it's just not really my thing. It would be a huge buzzkill for me. So, you know, even as a teenager, I remember, you know, driving around in my car when, you know, I was, this was one of the big things I loved about when I got my license was being able to just, I don't know, like, go to a secluded parking lot or go somewhere in the country and just get totally naked and jerk off outside. like that was always kind of that was always like a big huge rush for me and so it you know when I in my early

20s I was still doing that kind of thing another layer to this um this like a lot of well not a lot but some of your other callers have called in about painting hose thing so that was also kind of another layer to this is I have a had a huge painting hose fetish since you know teen years and so Some of that, you know, I would go out and sneak out and play in painting hose outdoors and that kind of thing. And I was doing that kind of thing in my early 20s. And so then I guess mid-20 started to get kind of obsessed with cam girls, right? And so I spent when I first found out about cam girls, you know, I was just spent an ungodly amount of time just watching, you know, watching girls on cam. Because it was really fascinating to me for, I mean, obviously because it's hot.

naked chicks, but the other part of it was just, I was just totally fascinated by these girls that would get on cam in front of thousands of strangers and just go wild. And, you know, guys would just kick back and, you know, come for their home and just, you know, make comments or jerk off to them or, you know, and that just really fascinated me. And so about in my mid-20s is when I started going on cam kind of because I truly, and I thought about this a lot over the past years. I think I truly wanted to be objectified the same way that the girls that I was getting off on. Right. I wanted to, I wanted to experience that myself on cam, which is kind of what got me into doing the cam thing. And so the first time I went on cam, I actually decided to go on camp in painting

hose just to kind of, I don't know, it was just like I think, I thought maybe it might give me something different from all the other guys just jerking off on cam and so that was my first real experience with doing this in front of strangers but you know to answer your question the point you made I don't

unless it's some kind of suppressed thing I really don't I had a really normal you know from a southern town childhood with you know conservative family I mean that no but let me ask you this really quick right I get it like there's nothing that you remember that could be. I'm just thinking about not the fetish with the panty hose and the wanting to be

seen. And I personally think, because I've had a couple exhibitionists on, like, I think it's more normal and still like an exhibitionist fetish to want to be outside and have people see you that want to see you. But when you get into the whole thing where you want, like, people to see you that aren't supposed to, like, isn't that like criminal behavior? I don't know. Like, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right? So I don't. I don't know. So I think most people that are, I think you definitely have exhibitionism in you, right? Like, that's what it is. And that's what mostly when the fetish is being done in a normal way, right, expressed. That's the way it sort of shows itself. I might not be right. I'm not a fucking professional. I always say that. But no, I was thinking like the older, like the specific thing of it having to be older. And that's why I asked you about like when you were younger, when it started off like, okay, because you're 35 now, right? And like the older, the better. Like, and I was going to say, like, when you were younger, did it, like, could they be younger guys? Because then they were, you know what I mean? Like, but if like

it always, if like you were 14 thinking about 65 year olds and now you're 35 thinking about 65 year old, then it's like just an old guy thing. But if it's just someone, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, and maybe I need to clarify. Yeah. I was, you know, like my teen years and even early 20s, it wasn't that I wanted to do this in front of older men at that point. Right. No, I know you just, yeah, you just said that. You didn't really start doing it until, I mean, we haven't even really got to that point, right? You just started like, where we're out in your stories.

You're like mid-20s doing canned stuff, right? So you didn't even really have that specific thing with guys, right? I mean, at least with older guys, right? Or when did that happen? Right. So it kind of, it just, honestly, when I quickly learned that when I went on to these campsites, and if you want to get off in front of people on cam,

then typically your audience is going to be other men. And I quickly learned that, you know, because, you know, I mean, it's not, you know, unfortunately, and unfortunately, there's just not a lot of, not a lot of ladies out there just hanging out on campsites watching guys jerk off. I mean, I know that it, I know there's girls out there that like that, but typically you're going to end up with a, you know, a chat room or, you know, group with, you know, a bunch of guys watching you, right? And so it just kind of, I realized at the beginning it made me, it did make me,

it was awkward. I wouldn't say that it really turned me off or bothered me whenever I started to realize, okay, well, this is, you know, six dudes talking about, like, how much they really love my hairy ass, you know, like, at first, you know, at first, it kind of was like, okay, what do I do with that? you know, I had to kind of come to terms with that, but what I quickly realized, too, is I didn't really care in that beginning who was who was watching me as long as I was being watched. So it didn't really matter that, yeah. So, you know, in the beginning, I would have preferred it to be other, you know, women.

Preferred to be girls. But yeah. But it just wasn't. And it just honestly, out of all the probably hundreds of times I did that or have done it, it's, it never really has been. And there's never been a female just jump in a, you know, on a cam session with me, you know, when it's been a public thing and it's been, you know, some, you know, lady, you know, complimenting me on the size of my dick. I mean, it's just not usually what you get. No, women, we don't care about that. We don't want to watch a guy jerk off.

Like, it's not really attractive to us. It's not hot. I don't know. I mean, you're with a guy in person and it's your guy, like, I don't know, but to watch it on a cam, no. Yeah. Well, and I'll say this, and this is what, you know, my wife and I, and we can get into this. later. My wife and I have a great, we have excellent sex life. I mean, it gets better and better as with every year. I mean, and so she actually, she knows I like for her to watch me. So sometimes, like,

if we're, if we're getting, you know, just getting going and, you know, foreplay and all that, and especially if, you know, we're just coming back from the bar and just kind of drunk, you know, just hanging out. And I'll, like, say, you know, you should watch me jerk off. She's like, all right, do it. And she'll kick back and watch me. And then we'll just end up, you know, having great sex. And so I like for her to watch me. Totally. And she kind of, you know, she entertains that. But again, I'm her husband and she loves me.

And that's why she's just, you know, she's just, you know, that's why she's doing that. And it's leading to something else. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So I get it. Yeah. And so that's what I mean by. I never, I never really was, I wasn't bummed really that.

It wasn't the females weren't hopping on and watched me because I didn't really expected to happen. I guess I just didn't really know what's expected in the beginning. But I quit. quickly realize that you're going to be getting off for other dudes. And that was, I think, whenever I started to realize kind of in my interactions with men that were watching me or guys, you know, that it, I didn't really like my interactions with younger guys. And when I just kind of quickly realized that it was a lot more fun with the older men.

And they also, it's funny because I've learned that they're a lot more respectful. they just really appreciate it and they also are a lot filthier than the younger guys at the same time. More comfortable, right? They want to, you know, I think they're a little more comfortable with telling you, I want to see you do this or I want to see you do that where the other guys, like younger guys,

just want to talk about how much they want to suck your dick. And then honestly, where my straightness kicks in, it kind of, guys do a whole lot of talking about fucking me or me fucking them or it kind of like kills it for me because, It's just not really my thing. You know, like I would rather, I would rather you tell me to, on cam, like, you know,

I want you to turn around and show me your asshole. That can be a turn on for me. But if you say, you know, if you want to keep talking about how much you want to suck my dick, that is a turnoff, which I know is bizarre. No, I kind of get it. Yeah. So again, it just kind of goes back to that. No, but you know what?

Actually, this explanation to the whole older guy. totally makes more sense, right? Like if we would have just left it off at that, I think some people would have thought I was right. Like there's, you know what I mean, but you're talking about it the way you're talking about it now, it does make sense. Because really what it is for you,

and it seems clear is that, like, the exhibitionist in you just need somebody watching. Like, you weren't really attached to who it was, right? So it just like it didn't matter whether it was a woman or a man, it didn't really, the age thing wasn't really that important to you too. It was more about finding the right people watching to give you sort of the exhibitionist experience you were looking for.

And the older guys gave that to you, right? If the younger guys gave it to you, you probably would have been fine. But they're so fucking horny and they're not relaxed yet, right? They needed a couple more, you know. And so you found that with the older guy. So that's really why it turned out to be specific like that. And that makes sense. Yeah, and I mean, I think that's, I mean, that's how I've looked at it.

It took me a few years, honestly, to understand that about myself. And again, it's never, I really never questioned my, you know, the fact that I, I never was wondering, do I really like guys and I'm suppressing this thing? It just was, they just, you know, older guys just were a fun audience to show off for it. It was just that simple. But, you know, you inevitably have those conversations, though, with people. you know, whether it be through email or on cam or whatever, that, you know, they just, they're just determined, though, that I'm, that I want more. And I just really don't. I just really,

it's just really a turn on to, you know, just totally exposing myself to an older man. Yeah. And I think that, listen, I think that most of the time we're projecting, right, onto other people at all time. So a guy that is like, you know, fucking around with guys on Cam, right? And it does want more, right? And it's even if it's like a secret in his life. Like, he can't imagine that that's not how you are. You know, he can't imagine not sort of wanting more. So I think a lot of times people saying that to you is like, they're projecting because that's how they are. They can't imagine sort of, you know, just wanting to be looked at and not. But I'm sure there's tons of people that are in your position that are exactly just like you, you know, but you probably

are getting more people that, you know, want more. where you are, you know, so I totally understand, but that's a projection of what they, how they are. Well, the other thing, too, is, which adds another element to all this is, you know, when you, when you've got, you know, if you're a, if you're a dude who's really into dudes and you got a straight guy who you really think is, you know, totally straight, it's a huge turn on for them that all you want to do is just show off and tease. And so it really gets them going.

But see what happens with the older men is they just kick back and they just enjoy it and get what they can get from this, you know, you know, straight guy showing off in their living room. I mean, you know, so that's, that's just the variable here with the age difference. Yeah, and what you just said, like, you know, sort of, because we haven't talked about the fact that you did take it from Cam to, you know, real life, right? You know, so after, you know, a mid-20s and I was kind of getting bored with the Cam thing,

and that was pretty, I don't know, I guess that went on for a couple of years, just nothing but just, you know, showing off on cam and I'm kind of chatting with guys. Quick question just in case people are interested in doing it themselves and they want to let their freak back by. Like where did you do it? Like what websites did you use? I mean, well, you know, I mostly just used, and I don't even know if it's still around, I was using cam fuse. Uh-huh. That was a fun spot. And then, you know, it was kind of one way that, that one of the last things I really got into, which was pretty fun. It was called like chat roulette, but it's dirty roulette, I think is what it's called.

I hadn't used this stuff in a while. That was kind of fun because you just, you basically just hit start, and you just get on cam, and guys just click through, and you do the same thing. And when somebody, you know, when you see something they like, they just stop. And, you know, they'll start talking to you and they'll say, you know, compliment you. And then it'll kind of get go from there. And so that's kind of, that's kind of fun. I always liked a little more the

room experience of having you know lots of guys watching and so that was always I just pretty much defaulted went to camp views I mean I'm and that was a place where there were rooms is so is that's the way it was set up there. You would start you would broadcast it it looks a lot like my free cams

you know but it's just more low key and it's a lot of dudes and a lot of couples back then it was again I'm kind of I haven't really done the cam thing in a long time. Right, because you progress. So now you're like in your 20s, you said, like you're getting really tired of it. Right, because you've been doing it for a couple of years right now. You need a little bit more.

Yeah. Which is what normally happens, right? Yeah. And it kind of, it really kind of came down to it started to get kind of boring because it felt, well, it just kind of felt not as risky maybe or something. It just kind of didn't have that excitement anymore. I think I started to want more of like a human kind of. of element to this thing, you know, again, not wanting any kind of physical contact, but just, I don't know, I started thinking about what would it be like if I did this like

one-on-one, you know, in front of a guy, you know, and not really got me going thinking about, thinking about that. And so I actually, it's kind of the first thing I did was go straight to utilizing Craigslist and started, I spent a while just looking at Craigslist in that capacity because I never had before, you know, in the personal section. And I, so I decided to put up an ad, you know, it was probably the ad title was something like, you know, watch me play. And then it was, you know, went into what I was looking for. And even at that point, I think I was specifying, you know, need to be older. And I always put in all caps, you know, no touching, no sex, you know, no blow drops.

and but then you would inevitably get you know the string of emails that were just gone they just went on forever about hey I'm trying to suck that dick you know it's like you didn't even read the ad yeah welcome to I'm sorry but like welcome to the women's world I mean this is what we deal with guys all the fucking time they just don't they don't listen they just want what they want yeah and so you know I and one thing that kind of happened here with this a little uh and a little addition to all this was so of course you know if you're going to post an ad on Craigslist or something like this, you know, you should probably take, you know, a picture and add with it. And so that was actually when I got into doing, you know, doing photos of myself, which eventually ended up turning into videos. And so I really got into taking like nude selfies and, I mean, we can get into that too and I get carried away with that. Because that's a lot of fun to share with dudes that, you know, are asking for custom photo sets. And so, you know,

So I got into the Craigslist thing and posting ads. And you got into the picture. So you're posting pictures with your ads, right? Yeah, posting pictures with my ads. And I mean, honestly, I got a lot of, I got a lot of emails. And but 90% of it was guys that just didn't read the ad or just didn't get it or they gave me the creeps or whatever that might be. Yeah. And so, you know, I'd filter it down until, you know, I found, you know, Jesus, like two out of the.

the 40 guys that I might met, you know, email back. And so I, um, reached out to this guy, one of the, well, not one of his, well, the first guy that I got out to ended up being the first, uh, kind of private show, like in person that I did. Um, it was an older guy. Um, he was probably not, I think he's probably late 50s. Um, and at this point, you know, I'm 26 or so. and he he fit the bill because he was just hey man I'm just you know happy to see you show off and you can come to my office and this is really discreet because I'm married you know all that kind of you know stuff so it I like I also always liked and still do now um when you add in the like they're married yeah there's a certain amount of you know that you're going to get a certain amount of discretion because they're not going to blow your spot up because you might blow their spot up exactly yeah yeah that makes total sense and that's smart i mean but it makes sense yeah and so you know he was married and so i you know i i go over to his uh his office so wait let me just just tell me what kind of office is there is there other people there well this is after hours i mean the office is closed this is a small office oh okay

i'm thinking you're going during the day when i went there and i live in new york city so the offices i worked and had like hundreds of people in them all right so it's after hours right you mean him at his office. And he's like the business owner. This is, of course it is. I mean, this is really vivid. This whole experience is really vivid. My mom, because it's the first time I'd ever done anything like this, you know.

And so, you know, he was a business owner. And so he was a small office next town over, which is also another thing I've always done. I never do this shit in my, in my immediate city I live, wherever that might be at the time. But, you know, so I was, he tells me, come on over after. you know, after work, you know, after, you know, show up at six, whatever it might have been. And I was so nervous, of course, and I almost turned around, you know, a dozen times probably. But, so I pull up and he kind of waves me into his office and, you know, we get in and I can tell that he's nervous. And that's making me more fucking nervous.

And so I don't know. I probably said something silly, like, you know, do you, so do you want me to get naked? You know, because I've never done this in front of a guy. Yeah, like how do you start it off? Like exactly. Yeah. I would say something totally uncomfortable. My drill is pumping.

And the other variable here is we're not, we don't really need to make small talk because we're not, this isn't a fucking, you know, and we're not. And the thing with me, we're not going to end up fucking. And so we don't really have to get into foreplay. Yeah. It's not like that. Honestly, small talk is kind of awkward in, you know, my opinion with when I'm doing this. But anyway, and so I, so I, you know, he says, yeah, just let's come in here and we go in, you know, his private office. And so I stripped down, you know, totally naked.

And at this point, you know, I am, you know, my heart is just pumping. But like, I am immediately just rock hard from this because I'm just so excited to finally be doing this. Because I've been thinking about doing this for probably a year or more at this point, you know, finally pulling the trigger. and, you know, so I don't know, you asked, you know, probably asked him, you know, so what do you want to see? You know, so he was one of those guys, you know, he wanted to see me get down on all fours and, you know, spread my ass so he could get a good view of it. And he, so I'm, so I'm on his office floor and totally naked and he's, you know, sitting at his desk and, you know, I can, you know, I'm down on all fours, you know, been over so he can get a good view. And he's, you know, he's jerking off to me at his desk. and, you know, he tells me, I want to see you come.

And so, you know, I turn around. At this point, I'm just so hard and excited, you know, so I turn around and, you know, two seconds later probably I'm, you know, coming all over his carpet. And he's excited that I'm doing that. And, you know, and anyway, so we, it was, I mean, it was honestly just a lot of fun. And it's kind of what got me hooked. And so afterwards, you know, we just, okay, cool, that was fun. And I just hopped in my car and just, you know, left.

And that was, that was how my first experience went. And at that point, I was just kind of just, I mean, I'd fantasize about that for months until I did it again. Right, right. Like it was good enough to keep you for like a couple months. It fed you for that long because it was like that major. But did you ever see him again? I didn't because, I mean, again, it was a far enough over. I mean, it's, you know, it's probably 45 minutes away.

And so, which again, it's just how I kind of roll with this. I've just never done anything in the vicinity of, you know, people I might know. And I, you know, so what, over 10 years now, I've never really ran across another, you know, a guy that I've done this for. So. Right, right. That's good. So anyway, so that was your first one.

And then, like, a couple months go, you know, go by and you're ready for another time. Right? That's what happened. Yeah. And again, it's, I'm, you know, constantly posting, you know, on Craigslist to try to see if I can get, you know, another scenario like this. And it's just, it's very difficult. And it is to this day.

I mean, it's, it's just such a specific thing, you know, to be into. And so I guess probably the next time, which was, again, months later, you know, it was a similar situation, but this time with a much older guy. And, but he had a, he had a private patio, which, of course, got me. really going because we're talking like outside doors. Yeah. Yeah. And so you know, I pretty quickly, you know,

jumped, jumped on that. And so I don't, I probably was probably a little riskier than I should be in just because of the scenario. I probably didn't vet. That one as much as I should have just because it, you know, it really got me going. And so, you know, and so again, it was a pretty similar situation in the second time. This guy

was probably late 70s, though. So he was a lot. older. Wow. Yeah, but he was a lot more fun than the other guy, honestly, because again, he was older. He had been married, but his wife had passed away a few years before that. He kind of told me how, you know, he's always liked me in ever since he was younger, but, you know, southern culture just wouldn't allow it, that kind of thing. And so he, you know, he was really vocal about, you know, what he wanted to see me do. He really got off on, like, you know, my feet. He really liked that.

He really liked me spreading my ass. He had, like, wanted me to toy my ass. Like, I showed it all for him probably longer than I have anybody in my 10 years. I mean, I just did all kinds of stuff in front of him. And he actually didn't, which I really, this was kind of fun. He didn't want to see me come. He wanted me to just, you know, get on my knees in front of him and him jerk off while he looked at me. And that was really hot for me because it's just really like that somebody's getting

off just looking at you. That was just a huge rush of me and it's to this day, you know. And so again, none of the first two guys never really, he never asked to do anything other than just watch, which was, you know, perfect for me. I've never really been in close quarters with the guy that I'm showing off for that really asked for anything more than that. I just chalk it up to my good betting system. I'm surprised that these older guys who basically like hit the jackpot, because like as much as you say it's hard to find the specific situation. I think it's really hard for an older guy that is like, you know, just wants this specific thing is going to get a young guy like that, you know,

to come and get naked in front of him and whatever, that these guys didn't try to hit you up afterwards for more than, you know, a one-time deal. Yeah, well, it was kind of, it's probably difficult. That's changed now some, but I didn't really have a way for them to get back with me, which was a mistake on, you know, on my part. name because I was using Craigslist and then you know I wasn't really you delete the ad you can't right if you delete the ad you don't have the email anymore all that kind of stuff is that what you're saying right

yeah and that changed later when I started um using a little bit more of a social approach to this which was like so as when I uh my late 20s I stumbled across the site called silver daddies dot com which is basically a it's really a hookup dating site for you know young guys looking to hook up with older and, you know, vice versa. And, you know, most of those guys, of course, are looking for sex or, you know, maybe relationships, whatever, but I kind of use it as an avenue to, you know, kind of, you know, to see if people might just, some of those guys might just want to watch. And that was pretty, that was pretty successful.

I mean, I had a lot of interest there, but I had a lot of guys there, too, that just couldn't quite understand why I just wanted to show off. So it's never, to this day, I've never really found a good, avenue for just a, I don't know, I guess just a spot that I can always go to where I can find new guys that, you know, want to, you know, want to watch. And then, you know, a few, I don't know how long ago it was, but, you know, Craigslist kind of cut off there. Yeah, you know, you can come up there, but yeah. They cut out all the adult stuff, so you can't go on there anymore. So that kind of, that kind of was a, you know, that kind of was a blow to me

doing this because I, I found that sites. other than Silver Daddy's, that's an okay spot to try this. But, you know, sites like Word.org or places like where guys hook up with other guys, it's, they, that's, that's a whole other level. And those guys are looking for more than, you know, just, you know, a guy that wants to show off. That's fine. It's just, so it doesn't really usually, you know, go to my favor as far as trying to find guys on sites like that.

When was the last time you did this scenario with a guy? How long ago? In person, I mean, it's been a long time. I mean, it's been years since I've done it in person. Right. And is it because when Craigslist went down and out and you just haven't found another place to sort of beside Silverdown? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I haven't found, like, you know, again, safety is a huge thing, you know, and not just discretion, but, you know, the safety of, you know, the safety of, you know, going to some guys' house or, you know, that's why, you know, always kind of like the private patio. or the office or, you know, places like that because it's, it got to, I get a little nervous going in some dudes house and him closing the door, you know. I mean, that feels kind of get you. I've really only done that once or twice. Everything else has kind of been in public. Let me ask you this, though.

What were we going to say the other what? The other avenue, which I have done, and I'll do that every once in a while. It's not that, not that great. But, so adult book, you know, adult bookstores or adult theaters, you know, but those, places are just so grimy, you know? Right. And those, those guys are there. It's, you know, it's honestly a bunch of mares, a bunch of gross married dudes looking to suck

dick, you know, during the middle, and their lunch break. Behind their wives backs. Yeah. It's just a huge. So those places are kind of a huge turnoff for me. I've done it just because I just wanted the fix, but it's, it's not. You can't get totally naked in those places. You know, you can just whip your dick out.

And that's, that's not really, again, not really my thing is to be in a, you know, gross room just with my dick out jerking off for some creep to watch you know i mean that's not really right you know that it doesn't give me my fix it's not really like what you're looking for but let me ask you where in this journey right did you did you meet up with your girl i know you've been married five years but together eight years so when did you start dating her like when you were doing the cam before you were doing like right after you started the cam before you were meeting guys in person So I actually met her when I first, like I think I was pretty much, I was pretty heavy into meeting guys and showing off at this point when I met her. And then what did you tell her when you guys were together?

Like you said, you did sort of tell her about some experiences and she knows like some stuff. Like what did you explain to her? Well, it kind of started with, I actually kind of trying to think back how that conversation went. I mean, it was basically maybe started out with me asking her, you know, we're fooling around if she wanted to watch me. And then I would say, it was kind of my thing. And, well, have you ever done that for somebody else? It was probably like a conversation like that. It wasn't really.

But did you tell her you've done like you did it for guys or did she just assume it was girl. Okay. And honestly, at first, it was a little bit. I think it really confused the show out of her. And I mean, of course, you know, I think, though, as you know, I think, though, as you. she got, and this was early on. And so I guess there was enough, I guess there was enough excitement there and the sex and all that that she stuck around to kind of learn about me that I'm really, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not gay. I just get off on people watching me. And so, because at first she was really concerned that I was just a good old boy that was just suppressing, you know, my gay tendencies. For sure. And she didn't know how that, what that, she didn't want to get her heart broke because I was leaving her for some guy six months later, because I finally decided. come out, you know. And so there was some of that that we had to talk through, but she pretty

quickly realized that I'm a pretty sexual person and that, you know, she knew how much I liked her watching her watching me. And so, you know, something we talked through early on. And honestly, when we got married, and to this day, I struggle with this, it's the meeting guys after we got married that I really felt heavy about. And so honestly, that's why. guilty of me? Yeah. And again, it's, some might would argue that, I mean, I'm not,

I'm not, there's no touching, there's no physical anything. Yeah, but it doesn't, right. It's still in person, doing, exposing yourself, you're having, it's a sexual act with another person. I mean, just exactly. So it doesn't matter that there's no touching. It's hard. And so

it has been hard to like, the one thing I really struggle with is it is a huge like, it is a huge thing for me. It's a huge kink, a huge fetish, however you want to say it. but I just, I haven't done it in so long because, you know, I just don't, I feel pretty heavy about it the times that I did it. And the weird thing is, I have to say, because like what I was thinking when you told me that you told your girl about this very early on, like, that's like super honest of you and cool, right? Because you could have totally not told her, right? And to be able to tell someone that you just met something like that, that a lot of people wouldn't be able, a lot of people wouldn't be able to do that, right?

So if like I was a girl dating you and you put that out on the table and then we were able to talk about it and you were like very upfront with everything, which I'm assuming you were. Like I would really think like you were a fucking honest dude, right? So it's like you would, it's like weird that that same person that's that honest, you know what I mean? Then, you know, has this other secret life, right? And that you know, it stopped sort of there. But it continued, but she doesn't know about it. So like if she found out and you got busted, I think she'd be really devastated. Sure.

Even doubles. Because like I think she probably thinks you're like a really honest person. Do you know what I mean? Like because you are. It's like both things exist at the same time. It's the one thing. And in a way she knows like obviously she knows that, you know, I'm into that. But you know, what she doesn't know is that I have, you know, done it, you know, in person while we've been together.

And so that, and that's, it's funny because that's, that's the one thing. We have a completely open relationship about everything. We tell us, we tell each other everything. And that's part of why I think that we have such a good sex life is because we really just have this honest, open relationship. You know, you know, as example, she knows how much I'm into panty hose. And so, you know, we've worn together. She, you know, she lets me take pictures of her in them. You know, she's, you know, I mean, she's into things that I'm, you know, I'm like, well, let's go.

So we, and not just our sexual life. I mean, we, you know, we talk to each other, you know, five times a day on the telephone. You know, I mean, it's, we're just, you know, like one person except for this. You know, that's what I mean. Like, I get that this is what you have that. That's why it would be so fucked up for her to find out because it doesn't make sense, right? Like, you'd be like, this is a person that I could be so close with that and we're so open and we just let her, like, you know, everything's out there. But then to find out that that.

person has something, right? Like, that's, I think, like, I don't know. That's, like, that's difficult. You better never fucking get caught or you better let her know that. Would you, let me ask you this. Does she know that you do it on cam when you were together or no, not even that, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

She does. She knew that. Okay, so that's good. So the only thing, so she knew that you would go and you have, like, you could go on cam and expose yourself to guys at any time. while you're with her and that would be totally cool? Yeah, I mean, I don't think that she probably loves it in the way that, you know, she likes, you know, her dudes to be like doodly dudes, you know, and so I don't, I think that she

likes, you know, to think of me in a certain way. So it's probably not exactly a turn on for her to think of me. I'm not saying it's a turn on, but she knows, right? Yes, yes, yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying I don't, you know, I don't love, I don't love the idea of her knowing it, but she does. you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, but that's great that she knows.

So really the only thing that you, so when you started this relationship with her, you were like, this is what I'm into, this is what I do. I like to go on cam sometimes and be with guys. And like that's what she, and then she eventually, you guys had a lot of conversations about it, but she was eventually okay with it. And so it's not like she could ever, if she found a cam thing up and saw pictures of you with it. Like she wouldn't get freaked out, right? Like that would be like, oh, that's what you do, right?

No, but it's probably an unspoken thing at this point. You know what I mean? I mean, it's like, it's not something that it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, I know. I just, you do your thing, kind of, you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. Listen, that's better than I thought. I thought she didn't know any. I just thought she thought you something you did, even the camming, like, you know,

without her before. And then all that stopped when you were together. The fact that she knows about the cam and you're open, you know, it's just the meeting of the guys. And that's why it weighs heavy on you. Because you are like a super honest guy, right? You have a really good relationship with your wife, right? This is just something that she can't give you, right?

That's the only reason why you're doing this behind her back. It's not like you need anything more from her, right? I mean, your needs are being met 100% with your girl, right? It's just that this is something she can't do for you. And then when you meet them in person, it takes it to another level. and that's the thing that is could you know could get you in a lot of fucking trouble because yeah and and and and you know and that's but honestly that's why and like said it's been years since I've done this in person I mean you know like you know I get

all thinking about it but I'm I don't know I mean I haven't now I you know which over the past couple of years it's just kind of turned into I still don't now I still don't really do much I really hardly ever do like a cam session right I really like I get I do I do I do a lot of photos of myself or videos and I'll like you know I post them online all of this is by the way you know I never with stuff I post

online course I never show on my face yeah but so that's kind of the thing which you know I mean guys don't give shit if you post your face for a little long with like a picture your ass you know right and so that's so that's really kind of where I've gotten my fix you know over the past few years which has kind of

been, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I would say for the most part, it's enough, because me and my wife, you know, we have, you know, healthy enough amount of sex and, you know, you know, you know, it's, it's, I'm completely satisfied sex with her, but I do have this thing where I just really like to hear random strangers comments about, you know, my ass or whatever it is, you know, like, so that's just something that really gets me off that she really can't, you know, she can't, you know, she can't, you know, she really can't. And she, it's funny enough because she, she does try because she's always, you know, she's always complimenting me and all that, but it's just different when it's a random old

dude telling you that than it is, you know, your wife, who you know, loves you and you're, you know, you're the best thing. Yeah, it's a totally different thing, right. Yeah, you know, of course you, you, you know, you, of course you, you know, you like my dick because you love me, you know, you know what I'm saying? And so it's just different when you get a stranger, you know, commenting on pictures or videos of you. And so that's kind of where I've found, you know, I'm getting enough, I think, out of, you know, posting online content of myself, you know, these days, honestly.

Right. And she knows about the, but let me ask you this. When you first expressed, like, told her about this thing that you're into, like, and of course, wouldn't you told her it was like a lot of guys. She got freaked out and just wanted to make sure that, you know, you weren't gay and leaving her for guy. But like, did she, like, did she worry also that, like, you would, that there would be when. women that this would be happening with like, you know, I feel like in a weird way if I was like a girl, right? Like, and I totally found out about this, right? Like that you would feel comfortable once you knew for fact that the guy wasn't gay is going to not leave you for another guy, right? And maybe it's like better that it's guys than if it's a girl's too, then that adds a whole other thing, right?

Like because she knows that you you do like girls, right? Because you like her, like, you know, there could be that problem. So did she ever, did you ever have that conversation with? her? I mean, she probably assumed like, you know, assumes what you said. Yeah. Right, right. Right, because she never had to worry. Yeah, she, that really was never part of the conversation at all. I think it was just more, you know, are, you know, are you by, are you gay? Are you, you know, do you, would you rather be with men than me? Or, and then, you know, the, oh my God, how much are you showing to yourself? Somebody's going to find this out. If you're showing up, putting your face all over

was, you know, internet, that kind of thing. It was more those conversations than, you know, are you doing this in front of chicks? Right. Uh-huh. Nobody thinks that. Chicks, you know, just aren't hanging out like the dudes are watching Guster. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

Right. So it's not even a question for her. Yeah, no, that's cool. I mean, like, listen, she knows a lot more and is like then I thought and I think that that's okay. It's just like you're kind of lucky that Craigslist went down. Okay. Because it sort of curtailed this. thing in you right because maybe if it was a lot easier to do it now like it was a couple years ago

you still would be and I just think like you know the last thing you would ever want to do is fuck up what you have it would not be worth it especially when you could sort of do what you do and not have to feel bad about it because like you could go on cam like you could do you know, and if that's enough, like, why risk it? But I know that sometimes that's the turn on, right? Like that risking it is a part of it. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. And so, you know, and I guess I don't feel, because she knows, I obviously don't feel any guilt about the things that I, you know, that I post online. But there is like a certain element of that, that again kind of goes back to my first point I made about. about, you know, it's, it is a lot more exciting doing it in person. And you're right that it's probably better that Craigslist went down.

And I know there's other sites now. And I actually heard a couple of your callers maybe. Yeah, I mentioned like double list or sort of. But, you know, I think at this point being outside of it for, you know, a couple of years now, I know that the like how shitty I felt after like doing that in person, you know, back years ago that that, you know, that I'm so far. from that that I don't I just don't even log you know I'm not tended to honestly to really log on to those sites and you know start posting on those just because I you know again I'm getting my fix with you know with posting stuff online or you know with you know the sex life that we have and then

just reminding myself of just like how heavy it feels when like I did that you know and that's your gauge like I always say like I don't you can't really like everybody is their own personal sort of moral judge right like and you have like you like you like you like you like you And to me, the worst thing is when you're doing something that you know is not right, but you continue to do it, right? And how do you know that something's not right? Because you feel terrible afterwards, right? There are some people that would do what you're doing and don't feel bad.

And that's a different story, right? Like so, but when you, when it's somebody like you that says, like you feel so bad and it's such heavy, it's just like, that's like you shouldn't be doing it. Like, and you hear me on my podcast, like, I don't tell a lot of other people that they shouldn't be doing some things because it's like you know I go by how they feel about it right um and so but if you feel really bad because like I said I think you're like a really super honest person and that's you're not being honest when you're doing that like that's not you know and that's why you feel so bad because it's totally going against who you really are you know and

I think that that's where you could get in trouble like that kind of shit could come back and bite you in the ass and if you lost this great relationship that you have for that like you would never be able to forgive yourself it's just not worth it right like you just got to use your mind and your creative like to make sort of these online situations and everything else work for you because to do it in person I think is just too risky because I don't know if I was your girl and I found that out like I don't know I would be like what the fuck it's like finding out something that you could know never believe like I think she would be really shocked at because not that you're doing it but that like you never told her do you know what I mean because you are so honest right or maybe you've been together for so long would she not be surprised what do you think her reaction would be um I honestly I don't think that it would be um like a relationship and or especially since I mean you know we're married you know it's a little little a little different and so but I think it would bring into like it would bring this cloud over the relationship that wasn't there previous and that's

what scares the show out of me as much as as you know it her you know her leaving because she just can't handle it is this you know it's the idea that all of this you know wonderful openness of a relationship that we have would just be over because of like some like bullshit that like I did to get off for you know a couple hours you know because there's a lot of deceit it's like it's like the it's like the deceit that goes into it I don't know I don't know but I'm like different. I think to it because I would be thinking like how many lies went into that. Where were you?

Where did you tell me you were going? You know, and for that, for me to be thinking about that, you know, about somebody who I believed 100% was like so honest because that's who you present as. I just think that that's, that's the thing that really throws a wrench in your situation. You know, it's not like she knows you're into it. It's that you were lying. and then how much lying went into it and how many times you lie and then all of a sudden

this person that you think is so honest as a liar. I think that that's hard pill to swallow and get past and it's really more of the deception because that's like a betrayal, you know, and especially of someone where you guys are so close. Yeah, and honestly,

I know that you've mentioned a few times on your show that, you know, you really like giving this advice, of course, and that I, I think kind of hearing that from you, because it's the first time I've ever talked to another human being about this, you know, outside of guys I was showing off for. Yeah. And to have somebody kind of like confirm, you know,

my, you know, my concerns over it, I guess, of, you know, my kind of validate the way that I know this isn't, you know, I shouldn't do it if it's making me feel that way. I think that that helps a lot, like hearing that from a person for the first time is like, yeah dude like you really don't want to fuck that up so you go with your gut and stop don't show off for dudes in person yeah and all i'm doing and the reason like you know all i'm doing is you know because you already know this right i'm just like reflecting back to you what you already know right you just needed to hear it outside of yourself when you feel really bad afterwards it's like that's what that's why you feel bad you know what i mean um and i just don't think you should and then what's going to be really interesting for you is when you listen to this back. Because to hear your story as a third person is so interesting. You'll never know until it happens. Like I've had, I can't tell you how many times I get emails afterwards, people listening to it. You know, and sometimes people are like, oh my God, like, well, I wish my therapy sessions were taped because sometimes when you hear yourself and your story, like I said from the third person, you really see it differently, right?

It's just going to give you, it's just going to add to it, you know? Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, when I hear something. somebody say like like I said I get that you're just a really honest person and and then when I hear you say you feel so bad and and then all this good stuff between you and your girl like I'm like I have to say like you better you should stop and you don't hear me say that a lot to people you know I'm very non-judgmental like I said I don't believe that you know there's right and wrong and they it I mean there's right and wrong right but you decide what's fucking right and wrong for

yourself. Do you know what I mean? And it's like it and it all depends on who you are. Right. So, you know, but because I have guy friends that cheat and they don't think anything and it doesn't mean anything. Like there's all different scenarios. And that's why I like to do my show because I like to show that, right? You can't just say everyone or what. When there's someone like you that feels really bad for what you're doing, it's like you, you can't be doing that. That's just the way that it goes, you know? And sometimes people like you, I'll give you this warning and this will just help you not ever go. Like, It's sometimes it's the people like you that wind up getting busted, whereas the people that don't fucking think it's bad wind up getting away with it forever.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Because it's not in line with who you are. So it's so, you know, don't do it or, you know, eventually come clean and tell your girl, maybe feel her out and see if she would give a shit. You don't know. I mean, you've been with her for, listen, you've been with her eight years, you know, 10 years from now.

maybe you'll be able to have that conversation or five more years. I don't know. You know, maybe she would be okay if like you really sort of said, listen, I just like to, you know, can I do this? You know, you would never tell her that you have done it. You know what you mean. But if she knows what you do, you could, like, you know, you could feel her out. And she might be like, no fucking way. But like maybe she would be okay with it.

You don't know, right? Because she's been pretty cool with like the whole, the other stuff and knows a lot of your stuff that you're into, right? So that conversation could come up at some point. You're like halfway there, right? So, and, you know, you could bring it up as a thing maybe somehow, right? You don't know. That's the only way you could, you should be doing it because it's, you know. Yeah, no, definitely. And I mean, I agree, I agree with that, all of that, you know, 100%. And I think, And again, you know, the fact that, so, you know, the other avenue of, you know, like, photos and videos, you know, myself online is, you know, like, that's, honestly, it's like, that's a lot of fun for me. And I feel, you know, again, she probably, like, she doesn't know every, like, all the specifics of that.

But she knows that I do that, you know, she just kind of. It's just an unspoken thing. And, you know, as long as it's not, you know, affecting our relationship. You're not putting your face out there. Right. And it's not going to come back. Yeah. Right.

And so she's fine with that to extend again, but it's kind of, so I get the benefit of it's my secret in a way, you know, because I don't include her in it. So it's kind of like, again, like kind of my private secret life, but she, you know, if she were to find, you know, like a video of me jerking off, like on, you know, I don't know how she would find that. Because I'm, you know, super good at not. Like, say you left it open on your browser and she saw it, right? Yeah. She's not going to get freaked out. No, she would, she might would. like say, you know, I really don't want to

see you doing that. So you should do better job at like, you know, keeping that stuff on the deal. Right. So it definitely would not be a big big ordeal, you know, because she, she knows. And again, luckily that is, that really is kind of, you know, I get enough out of that, you know, to, for my exhibitionist side. Um, and then, you know, just conjunction with, you know, with our sex life, you know, I'm good with that. You know,

I mean, again, I have moments when I fantasized about, you know, things I did when I was younger. But let's be honest. I mean, who, like, most people do, right? I mean, whether it be some great, like, you know, sex you have with somebody you with and the past. The one threesome you were able to have. Yeah. You know, I mean, people, you know, but you can't when, especially, you know, you're married. It's a long-term thing.

You can't, like, go chasing all those things you did when you were single, you know, again. And so that's kind of what, you know, again, having this outlet online, that's a lot of fun for me. I'm going to get a lot out of it. And she knows, but it's my thing. And so it's a pretty good combo. Yeah, you kind of, it kind of works out perfectly for you because you want a little bit of that not knowing, right? Like you said, that's a part of it.

And you have that. But she does know, so you don't have to feel guilty about it. And that's the perfect thing. That's where you want to be, right? And that's no different than the guy who's cheating that doesn't fucking give a shit. Like, I don't know. You know, you want to not have to feel terrible after and, you know, and that. heavy thing like you said that you need to take 10 showers because that's the stuff that is not

good for you yeah or for your relationship you know so you know no matter you know if i'm like doing photos of myself or a video and then i'm posting or i'm chatting like i just and like you said in the past with me and with other callers i mean it's that's my gauge is like i really that's just purely fun you know and so i don't feel any heaviness about it whatsoever right and then it's a turn on to you though like it's a big turn to you on you get you get your fetish gets like it's fill right like you feel horny it it's enough so i mean that's where that's where i think you have to leave it for now you know let me ask you this real quick because i keep i kept forgetting to ask you like did you ever because i know that

you said like you've always had uh guys told them exactly like what you don't want did you ever have an experience where you vetted somebody and they totally said okay i won't touch you and then they tried to like has your dick ever been touched you by another guy or have you always kept it to be where you're just sort of exposing yourself? The only thing that I've ever, the only time that's ever happened is when, you know, like some guy wanted to like, wanted to lick my feet, right? And so I, and I, you know, like I was fine with that. It's like I said to myself, I wasn't going to do that again, though, because it's just,

I don't know, it was kind of like a boner killer. But he really got off on it. And so that excited me that he was that into my feet, that he wanted to lick my feet. And so that was kind of like a one, that was really, honestly, the only time I've had like that kind of physical contact with another man. Everybody else has been pretty, you know, pretty chill. And I just kind of chalk it up to my good betting, I guess. Right, right, right. No, you were smart and you knew how to pick them, right?

So you never had any. I just asked because I can't tell you how many times I've had guys on the show. And like I get done talking like 50 minutes with them. and then they tell me, oh, yeah, like, I sucked a guy's dick. I'm like, wait a second, like, I asked you. Like, you know, like, hey, there's a, you're telling me this now, and we have five minutes and we're getting off the phone. Like, what is?

This adds a whole other layer. So I just, because, you know, sometimes people say things, and then, but I don't know, they're living very differently. So I just wanted to make sure it was like what you were saying. So you have never really, you never crossed swords. You never had a dick in your mouth. Your dick never went somebody else's mouth. Like, nothing of that ever happened.

And you've always kept it to be exactly like what it, what you wanted. Yeah, never. And, you know, and I mean, these guys have been respectful. But, I mean, it's not been without the, you know, you sure you don't want me to jerk you off. Are you sure you don't want me to blow? Right. Those things have come up. And I'm like, you know, no, man.

I mean, this is, I'm good. Like, we're just, you know. And they've all, you know, they've all just been, okay, you're lost. I mean, you know, just shit like that. Yeah, but listen, I bet you anything. And we're going to wrap this up here because I think that you should. give a shout out for yourself. I don't know if you're into this,

but I have a feeling I'm going to get emails from some older guys out there that are like, I want to see some fucking pictures. Like, this could be a great thing that'll keep you being faithful. Okay, good, I never thought of that, but maybe you were thinking of this the whole time. Like, you know, this could be something

that you could keep you going and keep you being faithful, not sort of going and meeting somebody is like maybe having some more people right into the show. So if anybody, like, listens to the show, right? knows what you're into. They're older and want to exchange pictures or videos or go on cam to cam, right?

Like you'd be open to that and interested maybe? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I mean, that's the one thing that I think I'm kind of missing out on. If I had some, like, what I would love is to have just the online interaction with some older guys that are, because, I mean, honestly, I will, you know, I do, and all this is free because it's just why I get off on. But, you know, I'll do custom photosets for you if you want a video, whatever that it might be. If you just, you know, want to see a straight, you know, dude, doing some raunchy stuff,

like on camera video, like I'm up for pretty much, you know, or pictures, whatever. I mean, I'm up for doing, as long as it's solo, I will do any of it for you. Right. And what's great is that there's no age limit from you, right? You said you got it got it on, like did it with a guy that's like 77. So like, there's like guys out there like, you know, that are listening that are 77. Like you'd be down for that, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's no limit. If you're 90 and you're still, you know, and you're able to use a computer and you're like into that. You know how to do it. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. It can be so much fun. It can be so much fun for both of us. We both, you know, get off on it and, you know, let's give your stats. Let's paint the picture. So to entice these people to write in. So, like, you're 35, right? And like, what do you, like, what would you rate yourself on?

one to ten um i'd say i'm around i'd say i'm close two and eight okay that's good do you have a big dick i mean i'm i'm i'm averaged i'm a little over six but it's really pretty right okay so it's really good um yeah um i'm cut um you know and so um 511 you know um slim in shape you know yeah absolutely i mean you know and really you don't have any preference for the the guy, right? I mean, right? Like, that's not like, it's not like you want a guy to sort of look a certain way, right? It's more so that, right?

I don't care. Well, I don't care what you look like just as long as you know what to tell them. So that you're confident enough to tell me what you want to see me do, you know? Right. So nobody said me dick picks. Please, no dick picks. No. Yeah.

I don't need. I really don't need to see you. Right. But you're open to that if they want that, right? I mean, because like. Yeah. If you want to, yeah, if you want to. If you want to, you know, come while you look at, you know, my feet, then that's fine.

If you want to, you know, jerk off while I'd bend over, whatever. That's, I mean, I'm fine with, you know, you being on cam with me. Yeah, exactly. I don't need to see a picture of you or your stats. It doesn't matter to me if you're, you know, 70 and 400 pounds. I mean, I really don't care. Right, right. Cool.

All right. So, like, if anyone's into meeting, Tommy, right? A virtual meeting, right? So you could be anywhere in the fucking world. You could meet up with Tommy. He's a young, hot guy that's always. open to any age, which I think is like, how the fuck do you not find a lot of people this way? You know what I mean?

I think you just got to put yourself out there. Right into the show, Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com, and I will forward any emails I get onto you. Is that good? Or do you want to give out an email? Or do you want to give out an email, have them write in directly to you or would you rather them write to me? It doesn't matter to me.

You know what? Maybe they'll pour in and they can just write to me and you won't get inundated with these things. Yeah, that's cool. Because, yeah, why don't you give your email? So it's actually nylon guy, N-Y-L-O-N-G-U-I-N-G-U-I-N-G-G-E-N-G-E-N-G-E-N-G-E-R-N-G-E-E-R-N-E-E-H-E-O-N-E-O-N-E-K-E-O-E-E-K-E-O-E-W-E-E-W-E-E-E-W-E-E-E-W-E-E-E-W-E-E-E-E-E-L-E-E-E-E-E-L-E-E-E-E-E-L-E-E-E-E-E- right and like what if they you know heard me say we're wrapping up and then they just ended it right and they're not listening so i'll also mention right i'll also mention this in the email and i'm going to put it in the little write-up i won't put your

email in the write-up but i will put in there something along those lines so that because sometimes people don't listen to intros too i just think people don't want to miss out on this opportunity yeah well that's awesome i'll be happy i don't think listen i like i said you might have been thinking about that when you wrote in to be on the show. I wasn't thinking about that. This is just a perk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. Right.

I think maybe for you was really good, like you said, to talk about it for the first time, openly to somebody. It's good for you to hear me tell you what you already know, right? Not to be with other people. And the added bonus is maybe, and I feel like if I could get some people to hook up with you through my show, that I, I feel like I'm really helping you and your relationship because it's keeping you interested and satisfied with just keeping things online because it's giving you some new fun stuff so you don't have to go and do that other bad thing, which is lie to your wife and me people, you know, do the thing that is not right. So, you know, and I truly do my show because I like to help people.

I'm really serious. And, like, people could fucking say whatever they want when they look at my show and think it's like, you know, but like I think that I do. help people and so if anyone wants to write in send the email to say it one more time it's nylon guy 1983 at yahoo.com okay awesome nylon guy Tommy uh keep me put let me know if anyone writes in you know um and let me know and uh I'll probably be airing it this Sunday I'm going to take this out because the last one I added it the last one I did today I was going to air it, but there's too many edits I have to do in his. So yours is a lot easier.

I don't have to cut anything out. So I'll probably be airing this this Sunday. So we'll see what happens. Stay out of the real life. And I think you will. I think you will. Yeah. Yeah.

And this was a lot of fun. It was a good. I think I really get the feeling this is why you do these shows. And I can tell that you really get a lot out of like helping people talk through some shit. I do. This is really awesome. Yeah. And it's very cool.

And has been a huge, you know, just, I don't know, just been for the first time being able to talk to a human being about this. It's major, right? It's really a release. I think that that's the other aspect of it that is very helpful. And people tell me that all the time. And, you know, people need a place like that. It's like there's more people should do anonymous therapy.

Do you know what I mean? Because I think to walk into a therapy, because I believe very much in therapy, right? But when you're doing therapy, right, you have to walk into a place. You're sitting right across from someone looking at them in the face, right? That's a very different thing than talking to someone. You don't know who I am. I don't know who you are. Like, you know, it really allows for something to happen that is very beneficial, right?

That isn't really out there. So I think, like, I am helping people and I've heard it many times. And I love doing it. I do. So, and I'm just happy that you benefit and you enjoyed yourself. And thank you so much for sharing your story and keep me posted. Yeah, absolutely. I sure will.

Thanks so much, Kathy. All right. Thanks, Tommy. Let me know how many people call you. Good luck. Bye. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show.

Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person.

And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you

buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos.

There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community, and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access. to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link

to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.