Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 297 - Susan has Done it All Sexually

Episode Date: August 19, 2019

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If you want to be on the Strictly Anonymous podcast, I'm always looking for callers. I get a lot of people emailing me lately and it's great. I talk to people who have problems. I give them my unprofessional advice. I talk to people who have lived like secret lives that want to talk about it are people who have lived like interesting lives that want to talk about it. So if you fall into any of those categories or one that I don't even know exists, but you think is interesting, send me an email. It's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Today I have on, Susan, Susan was on before.

She was episode, I think, 139. She had major trust issues with guys. But besides having trust issues with guys, she's done a lot of things sexually that most people have it done. And she had recommended to me that she thought it would be great to call back in and do another podcast and just focus on all the interesting things she's done sexually. And I think I'm going to put it in, I'll just tell you what she's done now because, and you'll get the details later.

She's done gangbanks, threesomes, five sums, double penetration, she's swallows, she's squirted, she really has done it all. And she talks about all of it specifically. That's just what we focus on. The whole podcast is just the specific details of all of her interesting sexual experiences. So I'm just going to get right to it because I'm sure you're dying to hear the stories. So I'll be right back on with Susan. How are you?

I'm doing good. How are you? I'm good. So like I said, this is the second time you're calling in. You called in recently because you had like major, you have major trust issues with guys and you were like feeling very distrustful, your future guy, right? We're not going to get into all of that. Right, right.

We got into that. I think it was episode 139. That was episode of someone wants to listen to it. But you had emailed me even before that call and said, hey, I looked at some of your titles of your show and there's a lot of stuff that other women have done that I've, you know,

engaged in like a gang bang and you've had your husband join in and you've had sex with other guys in front of your guy, like all that kind of stuff, right? So you decided like maybe you'd call it and we do another podcast. and just focus on that stuff. Right. Yeah, so I don't know where to start. I don't know much about what you've done except like a couple of the things.

I'm assuming there's more. So why don't you go, I don't know, like it's easy sometimes to start off chronologically. Like what was the first time, you know, that you sort of crossed over to do like stuff that was a little bit more freaky? Like the gang bang or like, you know, having sex with someone else in front of somebody or whatever it was. When was that first happened? Okay. for the first time while, it was a while back, my husband wanted me to, he was gone and he was in the Army and he was overseas. And he wanted me to go on a webcam so he could watch.

He wanted me to find someone to do things with, to have sex with. Right. And I remember we talked about. that on the other one. So, like, he was over there and he would want you to send him the videos, or did he watch it live? Oh, he watched it live. Oh, okay, cool. And that, like, turned him on.

He wasn't so, well, yes, yes and no. So, anyways, you know, because there was a lot of lag. So, you know, just if you ever dealt with lag on a computer, just having to deal with that was, was tough on his end. But anyways, but he begged me and begged me, and I really didn't want to do it. So, you know, I had actually done. that before and it didn't work out so well. Wait a second.

I said to start off chronologically. So you had, so that's not starting up chronologically. You had done. Yeah, now. No, listen, Susan, the first time, like you had started to do, like stuff that's like out of the norm, right? Like everyone's fucked a guy, right? I'm not asking for your losing your virginity story.

I'm talking about like when it was the first time you sort of done something within a relationship, which is not, that wasn't the first time. You just said you've done it before. So start with that. Start with that. When did you get into that? Okay. So I was seeing this guy who, well, first of all, I had never done any drugs whatsoever in my entire life.

And here I'm like 35 years old. And I met this guy at a club. And I thought, wow, this guy is really gorgeous. And I just kind of started talking to him. And, you know, we started seeing each other. and he was a meth addict. Okay. And I had no idea what that was.

I didn't know, you know, I had just really oblivious to all this because, you know, just never associated with people that did things like that. Let me ask you this really quick. Like, you had, when you say you had never done drugs, like, you had never even tried weed or a little Coke or anything. Nothing, nothing whatsoever. Oh, my God, it's so funny. I know you're going to tell us now that you just switched, like, you forgot all that,

like you just skipped all that and went straight to meth. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay, you never got into the meth, but he was, he was a meth head. Oh, no, no, he kept to, you know, yeah, so he was, he was begging me to, to try it, saying, oh, sex is so much better with, you know, doing this. And I'm just, well, if sex isn't good, good, sober, I certainly don't want to try it,

don't get, going into the influence. Mm-hmm. So, anyways, so. Let's see. We, well, he was seeing another woman and I guess he broke it off with her. And he had been begging me to do a threesome with another woman. And she and I started talking. Who's she?

His ex-girlfriend? Yeah, his ex-girlfriend. Yes. So how did you guys start talking? Did he, like, let me ask you this. Like, did he say, hey, I want you to do a threesome and I want you to hook up with my last girlfriend is that was the deal and he put you guys in contact? No. No, no, no.

Gosh, it's been a while so I can't remember exactly the details of that. But what happened was I had her number. I called her up and I, well, he and I had broken up. And so I called her up and asked her if she knew anything about where he was and knew that he was, you know, that he wanted me so badly to do a threesome. He didn't say he wanted it with her, but he wanted it to be with another woman. And so she and I were talking. And so I said, you know, God, I mean, I was so crazy about this guy.

You would think he was my drug. Right. Well, maybe he was. Yeah. So what happened was we... Because Susan, it is a little nutty. Listen, I mean, it is a little nutty. And I don't want to get too much into this other stuff because we got into this other stuff in the first call.

but like the fact that like you just said a very sort of complicated thing like I broke up with him I had his ex-girlfriend's number and I called her like so that's like there's a lot going on there and that is a little nutty so yeah you were probably like very addicted to this guy so you called up his ex-girlfriend and then you started talking about the fact that he wanted to do a threesome with you yeah yeah so the two of us the two of us got in her in her car and we went to where he was with his the woman he had been with for the last 20 years. He was at her house. And we knew...

Okay, wait a second. I need to get... Hold on. I'm sorry, but I like to have all the facts. And you're just saying shit that is like very interesting. Oh, sure. I need to know where it fits. So he had an ex-girlfriend.

He had... You were his new girlfriend, but he also had another woman who was the woman that he was with for 20 years. Was he married as well? No, no, not married. Okay. So that was a woman that was with him on and off? and then he saw you guys or he was with her. He had kids with her.

Okay. And so he would just kind of, you know, because he was a drug addict. He was going, you know, they disappear, I guess. They disappear. Right. So he would disappear and go hook up with other women and have these relationships with you and that other woman and then go back to this girl. So after you dumped him, he's back with his 20-year-old relationship person. And you guys get in the car together.

Now, when you guys got in the car together, was it to confront him or was it to have a threesome? Oh, no. We said, let's do with reason. Okay, but how did that happen between you and the girl? Like, what did you call her up initially for? Well. To know where he was? Is that what you said?

Yeah, kind of like that. You know where he's at? No, you know, pretty much. I just wanted to. So what are you doing tonight, you know? And, oh, well, I'm not doing anything. So. I think I know what was going on.

Let me tell me if I'm right. I'm sorry. I'm cutting you off. Someone complained about that recently. maybe I do whatever but wait really quick did you think like was it because like you dumped him but then you were like maybe freaking out that you had lost him totally and because like the threesome thing was the thing that he always wanted you to do were you like sort of going down that path because you wanted to get him back with that was it that kind of a situation okay that's what I'm like

okay so you're like oh my god I broke up with this guy you're like I shouldn't have done it how can I get him back I know I'm going to give him a threesome that's what he's wants. So you call up that woman and you, so you knew exactly what you were doing on that phone call. You were going. Oh, yeah. Right? So you call her up pretending you're looking for him, but really what you want to do is like go down on her in front of him. That was like, you sort of your purpose, right? Oh yeah. And she was all for it. And she was all for it. Okay. Cool. So she said, yeah, okay. And so you guys said, let's just go together and get him and like surprise him. This is like his lucky day. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So we drove up and knocked on the garage because that's kind of where he usually

kind of hangs out because it doesn't smoke in the house. So we knocked on the garage and one of the guys came out and we let him know. They're like, oh, my God, you're Susan. I heard all about you. Oh, my God, you know. But he's inside right now. And I said, yeah, I know. So she and I both want to have a decent with him.

So why don't you just go get him? and he's like oh my god okay so we ran and got him and he just kind of came out he really didn't know what was happening he thought we were going to come and stab him right of course yeah it was absolutely crazy right because he wasn't thinking why would she and i even be in the same vehicle yeah that's definitely stalker and like like girls got like you know like girls pissed off shit kind of stuff yeah yeah revenge yeah yeah people think that hey yeah i'm like two exes are going to come, you know, have a reason with me. Yeah, so we, uh, he comes out.

Or, yeah, he gets in the car. He's still kind of like, not sure what's going on. We're like, no, no, no, this is what we want to do. So, you know, and I guess this is how drug addicts are. They're always paranoid. So he was even more paranoid. It seemed like, well, just relax, you know. So we go to her house and, you know, it didn't turn out to be so great because he was all

over me and he wasn't paying much attention to her. And so she was just kind of really freaked out and upset about it because he didn't really want to do much with her at all. He just wanted to be with me. And so that's like kind of my first taste of having a third person in the room.

Right. So you had never been with a woman before, right? Let me ask you this. Had you fantasized about it? Was it something that you wanted to do or was it something that you just did strictly because he wanted it and you weren't into it? Or was it something you always curious about and then you did it and you were

totally into it? You know, it's kind of weird because I've never really, it's never been my thing to be with another woman. I mean, I really like men. But, you know, there's a good looking woman. Oh my gosh. You know, I myself can fantasize about that, but I'm not going to

point you out to the man I'm with, you know. So I never really fantasize about being with another woman, just the fact that he wanted that. and I had been married to someone before that really, really wanted that. And I kind of played along like, oh, yeah, sure, let's go out, meet someone, but never really did. It was just basically to shut him up and stop asking me. Right.

So. But this time you really, like, so you did you do full-on stuff with her? Like, what did you do with her in this first three-some of years? Well, we really didn't do that much. We really didn't. She and I really didn't touch each other much. It was, you know, this guy. I was, you know, he's an attention hog.

And so, of course, he was getting all the attention. But then when he started going down on me, then she kind of just stood back. And, you know, I just kind of stood back like five feet away from the bed, just, you know, totally pouting. So it was, you know, really terrible experience for me because I'm thinking, that's my first time. And why isn't she joining in? And I'm calling her like, come on over, you know, come over here. And she's like, no, no, you two go ahead and have fun. Maybe she was just into watching.

Maybe, like, that was turning around. Like was she like playing with herself when she was watching or no no no she looks she looked kind of upset just kind of like I guess I'll just go in the corner here you know and I can't watch this because she was crazy in love with him too so he was a kind of guy who whatever woman he would he whatever woman he was with I mean he really he really knew how to make it feel like you were the only person of course until we all find out about each other right uh-huh so yeah so you're like just crazy in love with this guy and so yeah she she just wanted to be with him she didn't want to be so i guess the two of us were kind of like oh yeah let's do it for him right okay so you both were like let's do it for him because you're both addicted to him but he chose you over her and she was pissed and then so that called a let me ask you this with the rest of that relationship with him did you have other threesomes or was that the only one and did it work did he come back to you um

well uh we had um we we we actually had a five-sum. Oh my God, I'm sorry, Susan. I just need to say this one more time because I like, I started off the conversation tell me the first story where you dipped your toe into like the other side of thing. You know what I mean?

It got a little freaky. You had a five-sum and then you jumped to some ridiculous story you were going to get to like where that you already told me. And you were going to forget all about this five-sum. I mean, you're going to tell you. I know, right. Good thing I ask a lot of questions, okay?

All right, so tell me. Well, you know, there's some more. You know, I didn't sit and think about what am I going to talk about first? No, no, no, that's good. No, this is why you have me. This is why. There's so many things. This is why I'm on the call, Susan.

Okay. And honestly, I didn't want you to tell me, like, all the stuff ahead of time because this is how I get my content. The less I know, the better, right? And so I'm learning as I'm talking to you, right? So it helps me to not know. And it helps you because I'm like jogging your memory, right? So the five-sum. Okay, so this guy, you have that threesome.

get back with him. How does the five something happen? Now he's, you know, I'm kind of running around with this guy and he's trying to score. And his friends are, yeah, he wants to, he wants to hook up with his, with his buddy, who, who doesn't have a girl. And he wants you to hook up or he wants to hook up with him? No, no, he wants me to. Okay. Well, he wants me to with other people as well. so so so he could get drugs because he has no money no no no no oh okay no this was like you know

know just kind of he knew the guy in prison so the two the two guys the guy got out of prison he knew the guy in prison and what happened was we've been over to their i guess whatever they call it like a halfway house where there's like a group home all the guys that are on parole or probation or something like that. So he called, you know, so we, and the way it's a selling works. Everybody has, they're trying to get drugs. And, you know, it could be, it could be hours before you hear from somebody because everybody's so paranoid, you know.

Okay. You have it or not? Okay. No, someone's so, someone's got to bring it here and blah, blah, blah. So anyways, so as we're sitting there and, you know, he's looking at me. my boyfriend's looking at both of us and one day says hey so you know hey so what this you know my friend doesn't have a girlfriend and I was wondering what you thought about him and why you know because I was wondering if you might want to you know do something with him he's got another buddy who's got a girl

and maybe the five of us could all get together you know and you could this way you could have and he was you know so that he could have another woman at the same time that I could have another man and everybody's in the same room. So we all got together. And this night, we're kind of all just sitting in the living room talking and having a few drinks. And so the guys are like, okay, girls, well, let's have you two start kissing. Let's start doing this, you know?

So the two of us girls start kissing. and we're touching each other. We're taking our clothes off, and the guys are just sitting there watching and, you know, telling us what to do. And the next thing you know, I'm in the bathtub because my drink got laced. I'm in the bathtub.

I threw up all over the place. And so I'm in the bathtub. They're washing me off. My bed is completely strict. dripped because there's you know i just threw up all over my bed anyways um so and he's videotaping this he's he didn't videotape the uh my boyfriend didn't videotape the um the throwing up part but right he was videotoping when we were all starting to hook up afterwards um so he didn't really get me and her doing anything at that point so you know he's he's wanting to get this guy all

over me so that he can get to be with the other girl and he's not she's not having it she had her boyfriend she didn't want him she just wanted her boyfriend and me so um so i'm on this video and my pussy's getting eaten and my by who by his friend that didn't have a girl oh okay and and so he's videotaping and i'm just sitting there moaning oh my god i love this oh my much. Oh, my God. You know, he does such a great job. Can he come back again? Oh, my God. This is so great. And, I mean, this guy was just really into it and just made me feel awesome. And, you know, he's on the video going, no. No, he's not going to do this again. Okay. Well, after that, you know, he's really not getting into it anymore because now he just saw me just crazy about having with this other guy and

he's just not wanting the leftovers I guess Right So yeah In the middle of that So that five-sum Who did you fool around with just the other guy he went down on you? You fucked the other guys or just that one

Like what went down with the other guys with you? With me Well I I sucked his cock He'd eat my pussy You know we got each other off And and then I heard about it for the next three weeks.

So what about the other guy? Did you do anything with the guy with the girlfriend or you just rolled around with the girl? He was just with his girl. And now that girl, that time, did you actually fully get it on with her or just a little touching and kissing that time? Well, yeah, I don't remember. All I know is what happened in the beginning, but, you know, but then I found out, no, remember I had never done drugs whatsoever. and the next day I was kind of questioning what happened you know I don't remember growing up I don't remember all this stuff and I was you know and I hadn't I don't remember falling asleep or anything but

I was wide awake like for the next two days right so yeah so did you ever watch the video and see what you did with her like with her too did you ever see no what happened oh okay he didn't even videotape until we got into the bedroom oh okay so you don't know what went down with her right right okay so you had a five seven and then after three weeks after he was kind of pissed and he wasn't into it so did you ever do anything more with that guy I mean where does that is that the gang bang that you were talking about or no gang bang is when you're with a bunch of guys right okay with my yeah with my first with my husband who begged me to do that while he was out in

Afghanistan right so okay so let's get now to where you were going to start before so then you had this guy who was overseas right um and you you were doing stuff on webcam with him and you were fucking other guys. And so somehow he decides, oh, after seeing you with other guys, he's like, I want you to like do a gang bang. Like I guess he just wants more and more right to get on. Well, yeah, he first, his whole fantasy was that what he wanted was to set me up with some guys that I, I didn't know, kind of walking into, walking into this, you know, getting out of the car,

walking from the parking structure to the house, that guys would jump out of their vehicle and basically throw me into my house and gangrate me. Oh, okay, that was like his fantasy. That was his fantasy. And I said, no, I really don't want that experience. That's really scary to think about that. What if it was real? you know, how far could that have gone, you know?

Yeah, so I didn't, I didn't want to do that. So, so what I did was, I said, well, you said, you know, let me just, let me just go ahead and set this at myself. I'll just figure out what I'm going to do. And so what I did was I rented a hotel room and I put up an ad on Craigslist. And just, you know, the whole, I'm married, but this is what's going to happen, you know. call me and you know we'll get together there's a jacuzzi in the room and

we're going to just have a good time and how many guys were you looking at bang like in that gang bang like did you have an idea of how many guys you wanted as many that wanted to come okay as many that wanted to come so let's just say at the most there was five or six in the room at the same time

okay yeah and so So how many replies did you get? You must have got a tonne because there's so many guys in Craigslist looking for real women and it's very rare because I talk to these guys all the time, right? But you were the real deal and you, like, you know, so how many responses did you get? I would say more than 100.

More than 100. And it was kind of like, well, you know, you got to look good. And I'm not going to, you know, fuck some slob. I'm sorry. But, you know, and I don't want some hairy, stinky, sweaty guys. come in and really creepy looking. So you're going to have to send you a picture what you look like. Right.

And that's how you were going to weed it out. Right. That's how you were going to weed it out. Okay, cool. So that's always important to kind of looks and someone that you were comfortable with. Right. Yeah. So I, you know, stuff a picture of me and then, you know, I didn't post with my picture.

But I, you know, would send the, once I decided that that person was going to pass, then I'd send in my picture and say, okay, so this is me. Now, Susan, really quick question, because I always ask my call. and I'm sure I asked you on the first call. What are you, what do you rate yourself? So, you know, people could get sort of an idea or a picture in their head. Like, what do you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10? I'd say at least a 7.

Okay, a 7. So you're a solid 7. So after you would see that the guy was okay and passed your sort of test, you sent him a picture of you. How many guys did you, like, narrow it down to? Um, well, I, let's say I didn't really narrow it down. I actually didn't. Well, what happened was it was like a, it was an entire night that, you know, a couple of guys came.

We kind of, you know, kind of messed around three or four guys. Sometimes there was just a couple. Sometimes there was more. But it was kind of like a trickling in and trickling out. So how many guys, do you know how many guys showed up that whole night, like the total? I'd say about 20. Oh, okay. So now let me ask you this.

Were you taping this whole thing for your husband to walk? Was this all on webcam for him? It was all on webcam. It actually wasn't taped. Right. Okay. So he was there watching you. Okay.

And you had about 20 guys. And let me ask you this. Did they use condoms? Any of them? They did. Yes. They did. Okay.

And you fucked all of them. Like what was your deal as far as like, did you have any rules or regulations or was it like kind of like a free-for-all? You just wanted to just like screw all these guys at once? Like what was the deal? Well, I didn't want to, I didn't, I just didn't want to come on my face. Other than that, we were good. Oh, okay.

So no jizzing on your face. I agree. I wouldn't want jizz on my face. I've had a lot of, I've talked about that whole thing a lot of, my podcast. That's a more intimate thing. I don't mind if we're together. Oh, okay. But you only let a boyfriend chizz on your face.

Right. Okay. Only if I love you. Only if you love me. shots. Right. Okay. Yeah,

shots. And, you know, and I didn't really, I really wasn't drinking that night. Yeah, I was going to ask you. I don't want to keep my wits about me, too, because, well,

there was a time that night, well, pretty late that someone showed up and, um, and I, you know, I looked out of the peephole. Nobody was there anymore.

You know, the, big figure the night was over it. But my husband kept saying, come on, get some more guys. Get some more guys. Oh, no.

So I'm looking out the people and this guy certainly isn't the person that I was looking that I said you can come. He must have shown me some other picture because it wasn't. And I was kind of keeping track of who was coming and going by, you know, are you coming up? All right. This is the room. And so anyway, so this guy is, you know, in my peephole and there's just no way I'm going to open the door. And he kept, I mean, this guy kept knocking and knocking and knocking and then calling my cell phone. And I was on the phone with my husband going, oh, no, you know, this guy's like really, really, he's creeping me out and he's still there.

So I ended up having to call down to the front desk and say, I don't know who this guy is, but he's knocking on my door. He's asking to leave. Right. And so they had to come and get him and ask him to leave. And he just kept texting me and going, well, where are you? You said to come up. blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, I'm like, totally ignoring him.

This is just not, no, no, you know. I'm all alone, and I certainly don't want to be in the room getting slashed by some guy that certainly wasn't anything like, you know, if you were going to look at anybody, if I, if I happened to get killed that night, you know, nobody would have looked at him because he didn't send me a picture of himself. So, you know, I kind of had to play it. But all these other guys, right? I mean, like, let me ask you this, because in the past,

it sounds like a lot of these other stories you weren't that into it or things went with this one, this gang bang, like, I mean, you obviously were into, to take on that many guys, right? It had to been something that you were into. And I do know that, because you said this on the last podcast, that when you started to screw these other guys, like, on the webcam for your husband, like, you figured out or you realized that you, like, liked it, right? Like, you were enjoying yourself, right? Oh, sure. Of course. So this, this you really enjoyed yourself.

And, like, you were, like, into the whole gang bang. thing. And now, so each guy that came in, like, did you have, like, how many orgasms could you have in just one night? Do you even know? Like, did you come from all of them? That was like, oh. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, I kind of got really lucky because these guys knew what they were doing. And, and they were even more excited because I squirted it and squirted it all over the place. So they were just, you know, ready for more and more. And then, you know, the more you drink, the more you're going to skirt. So, um, oh, really? I can't even. It was. over and over and over again.

Yeah, I didn't count. I was just, I was just, I was exhausted, but, you know, ready to, ready to start up again. And now did you, so you gave blow jobs, you got fucked. Did you do anal with anybody? Yeah, actually, that's something I actually really like. But it's really, it's kind of a tough thing to do when, as far as I'm concerned, because, you know, for me it's tough because once you go there even with a condom

yeah you can't put it going right yeah and so so it was more of a yeah we did double penetration in you know in my pussy and not not in both areas at the snow not like double penetration in the ass but just double penetration in my pussy and then

you know one guy would sit while I would get on top of him and straddle him and then another guy would come from behind. So you would have you did double. How many guys do you, like how many people did you do double penetration with? Was it just once or multiple times that evening? Oh, no. It was several times.

Right. And so some guy was fucking you in the asshole. Somebody else was fucking on top. Yeah. And you love that, I'm assuming, if that's what you were into. Oh, yeah. And so you would, they would be like sitting down. You would sit down and do anal with the guy sitting down and then somebody, is that how

worked? No, no, actually, the guy sitting down on the bed, I would straddle over him. Okay. Oh, okay, right. He was laying down on the bed. And then you would get on top of him, and then the other guy would get on top of you. Right. And then there'd be another, you know, a couple more guys, one on each side of me or kind of all around and, you know, either doing a hand job or getting, you know, while they're grabbing my tips or also, you know, I'm going down on one of them are just kind of everybody's hands were all over the place. Right. And so you must have been, I'm assuming, in like your glory, like this was like the hottest

experience, if you're considering you're squirting all over the place and having multiple orgasms, right? Awesome. Yes. So you loved it. Like you, did you ever know that you were like into gangbanks? I mean, I had a woman on here recently who did it. And it was something that she had always, I think she said she had always wanted it.

Is this something that you just were surprised to find out that you liked or is it something that you kind of always secretly fantasized about. Yeah, I think it was a long time ago. I was, I found a Playboy, and I was probably like 15 or 16. And I was kind of like flipping through it, like, hey, you know, what's this about? And there was an article, and there were pictures with, you know, these women who were actually, you know, getting gang banged. And I thought, wow, that would be something. to try. So yeah, I kind of always thought, well, that would be neat. But, you know, who do you,

most of my relationships have always been pretty serious. So, you know, nobody wants to share. Right, right, right. But this guy really went, now that he decided he was into it, it's like, that was your opportunity to really go there. And do the double penetration and all the stuff that I'm assuming you always want to do. Yeah. He, he was, uh, what happened was, you know, the video with the guy that you know when we did a five-sum the video there there was something about the video

there was a couple of video taped and the one guy because he had been in prison before he did not want that video he didn't want that video circulating whatsoever and so he had asked the other guy my boyfriend if

you know can he have the video because he didn't want that thing surfacing and so he as he was handing him a video he didn't hand him the video he as he was handing it to him he broke the video like you know just kind of broke the cassette he broke it as he was handing it to him that way he couldn't watch it and oh to know that that was the actual video oh but it really wasn't so he had kept the right you can't trust a drug addict that's for sure yeah no kidding right yeah so i had to what an asshole Yeah. Yeah. So I had a, I had the video with me, and it had been several years that we had, since we had broken up, but I, you know, just got married to this guy. And as we were moving all of our things, you know, I found the video. And, and I just thought, you know, it really caused a lot of problems with the first guy. So, you know, because he watched it a couple of times. And of course, watching it, like I said, I heard it for three weeks at least.

and so so um i just thought well that video really doesn't need to be seen and so i destroyed it i i literally destroyed the video and and so when he came home he's like what's this what what's this you know um i go oh yeah you didn't want to see that thing that was not something that um i really needed you to see um i had just found it when i was unpacking so anyways so he he really wanted to see this video he just and he's like well maybe we could make our own and i said no i don't think so not a good idea right and that's what he started but bugging me when he was when he was gone to do that and and then when he came home he wanted to have three things and he wanted to have you know whoever wanted to join in you know we could get a couple of different people um to do that and um

so that's what we did right oh so you right before even the gang bang. No, no, no, no. The gangbangs were before he actually came back. Oh, okay. One-on-one, right, yeah. Oh, okay. And so, and so you did all that stuff. And then when he comes back, you know, from overseas and comes into town, like, you guys start doing all this kind of stuff with other people as well. Right, right. And how did that go? I mean, were you, like, because I know that he had issues with it a little bit, and you said he wanted you to kind of stop but you didn't want to so you guys just kept going oh no no that was the very first one that was the very first okay yeah because he he hadn't seen he hadn't seen anything and

you know he was pretty young and so he thought well wow i've never heard you make those sounds before and this guy was really you know making you scream and moan and i i've never heard that from you so i kind of want you to stop right right right so this guy loves so your first gang but let me ask me this did you ever do another one or was that the only one when you did? We did several. The gangbangs. Yeah.

Online or with him involved at the other ones? With him involved. With him involved, yeah, when he basically told them, told the guys what to do with me. Right. And he was into that. And so he would just, and how many guys were the most that you ever did at one time? Are you talking about, like, how many guys were in the room at the same time? Yeah.

Like, I mean, you said, you know, that one. It was like four to five, but 20 over. Oh, well, okay. So around, let's say people were in line. People were in line. We had along, we had at least five to seven people around the bed. And then guys just kind of waiting, hanging out in line at the door. Right, into it.

And so, and do you think that any of those guys, because I know that I've had this one guy that comes on my show when he does these 24, for a blowjob challenge he blows all these guys and uh he says that like so many of the guys they they either have a wedding ring on their finger or they take it off and he sees the indentation and he you know he gave me the stats of like how many of the guys that showed up were like sort of married or whatever like i listened to that one oh okay i listen so yeah um you know uh do you know the deal of yours you know i know that that several of them were married They tried to hook up with me afterwards. Right.

Like they wanted one-on-one afterwards. And a couple of them I actually saw in town not quite expecting them to be wherever I was. Right. So, you know, he brought my son to the emergency room and this one of them was there at the emergency room. He worked in the emergency room. Oh, my God. And this was a guy that you just took part of the gang bank. Yeah, yeah.

He just looked at me like, hey, how are you? You know, and of course, then I saw his wedding man. Oh, okay. Right. He didn't have it at the gang bang, right. So after I left, after I left the emergency room, he texted me and said, hey, so when do you think we can get one-on-one? Uh-huh. And I was like, well, you know, I don't really like that situation right now.

So let's not do that right now. Uh-huh. So you weren't into doing the one-on-one? Were you more into group sex at that point? No. Well, it wasn't that it was all into group sex. It was more of a... You know, there was a few guys that had texted me afterwards

that had some humongous cocks, and I was really into that. Right. So I thought, no, I'm going to do that. Right. And when you say humongous, what was like the biggest one that you took? I don't know, 12. 12 inch. Right. And like thickness wise, like like, like, thickness like, um,

Dr. Pepper can. Right. And was he black or white? Nope. They were white. Right. These guys were white. Really, really surprising. Um, I had been with a couple of black guys, but they really didn't have, seem to have as big as these white guys did. Right. So the ones that had the huge cocks are the ones that you're like, oh, I'm going to do those guys on the side. Yeah, definitely. You know, how do you go back? Was your husband well hung?

Was he what? Was your husband well hung? No, that's that. He had a very small one. Oh, okay. So that's why you were like really jonesing for it. So, I mean, how do you go back to being sexually pleased by your husband if he's like really small and you're used to getting these like, you know?

Oh, well, you know, he had brought home some toys to match. Oh, so he had big toys and he would just use those on you. Yeah, he would use those on me. Right, because he knew, so I'm assuming you were like a little bit of a size queen too as well. I mean, is this something that you learned as you, you know, got into this or that was also something that you always knew you were into? As far as size goes, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely.

So you were always, but they're hard to find, right? I mean, it's not like you could always. They're, well, you know, the guy would know. I think he's better than average as far as size goes. And I guess I never really had a problem finding anybody with big ones. Okay. It was just more of a, you know, we married. He was the person I was into, and he just happened to not have a big dick.

Right, right, right. But because he was cool with you big with other people, it was like great because you found these other guys with huge dicks and he was fine with you. I was just wondering, like, how after with them, you know, you go back. But like you said, he had toys and stuff to keep you satisfied. Oh, yeah, definitely. And how do you go from, like, that relationship and doing all that stuff? Like, did you ever give up all that kind of, like, gangbanks up? Or do you still do that kind of a thing now?

You know, I don't do that anymore. It's kind of with the whole trust issue going that I met the guy that I'm with through those relationships of having gangbangs and doing things with my husband and so you know and when the things didn't work out with my husband

you know I was I was really into this guy and so we ended up being together but he was kind of you know he he's really shy not really you know I have to be the one to make the suggestions about, hey, let's do this. Hey, how about that? You know, what's, you know, and I had, we had

thought, we talked at least once or twice about having a threesome with another woman for him, because he'd never had one. And then I just thought, you know, that's really opening up a can of worms. I've had, I don't want to do that with him because I want this one to be the special and not have any, anything else for me to have to worry about. Right, right. So, yeah, so, We, you know, we just have what we have together, and we're not, neither one of us are looking to have other people in our relationship. So when you ended things with that guy that you were doing all this stuff with, is that when, like, all this sort of, you know, multiple sex and multiple people went out the door? Or like after you guys broke up, were you still sort of living that lifestyle? Oh, no, no, I didn't know.

The guy that I'm with now. Oh, right. It transitioned right away. you didn't have any time, right? What was the scenario that you met him? Was he a part of a gang bang? Was he a part of someone you just fucked on webcam in front of your husband? Like, what situation did he take place in that you met him?

Like, what sexual situation? He had answered my ad. And so I went out and met him. And what was your ad? It was like, I'm a married woman looking for guys to have screw with in front of my husband on webcam. Like, was that the ad? Yeah, exactly. You must have got tons of guys responding to that.

Oh, yeah. My phone, I think I had posted my phone number, and everyone was texting me pictures. Of their dicks. A lot of dick bicks. I'm right. Yeah. And so, yeah, so then I kind of had to learn, you know, don't send me a dick dick because, you know, I don't know what your face looks like and I don't care how big your dick is. But, you know, if you're just really creepy looking, you know, I'm not a bad looking person either.

So I'm not, I really would like that. standards. Yeah. Right. But how many guys do you think in that situation in that like time frame? I don't know. How many years would do? First of all, how many years were you doing it, do you think? Um, gosh, four, maybe four years. And how many guys do you think you fucked in those four years? I'd say, at least 60. At least 60. And now, did you do any women at that time, too, or was it just strictly men? No, no. No women. All guys. And, you know, I got, not yelled at. I got guys emailing me last time when I had a woman on that did this kind of stuff. They're like, you didn't, first of all, they wanted to know if they did double penetration, but we've already been there.

You already admitted to that. Like you did do double penetration. But they want to know if she swallowed. Do you swallow? Oh, with the guy that I'm with, not with strangers. So when you did all the stuff with those guys, like all the gangbangs and all the, you know, the one-offs, you never swallowed with them? No, no.

they were okay to come all over me, come on my tits, you know, but not in not on my face and not in my mouth. Now, did you do double penetration with your husband and another guy, or was that? Yeah, I did actually. Yeah, we did several times. And he was into that. He was cool with it. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Right. And why did you break up with that husband again? I don't remember. Things just went south and you had been seeing this other guy on the side? No, no. No, what happened was, like, he left, he went back to Afghanistan. And, well, when he, he had been bugging me to do it again.

And so it was one of the last times, it was like, come on, let's, you know, do this some more because, you know, this is all we've got. You know, this is all I've got, you know, so you're it, you know, I'm just like, okay. So, so what happened was I put up an ad and this, you know, like, I got, I was, I was just a, I was just a, bombarded with with pictures pictures of all these guys and you know you know pick me pick me you know hey i'll be part of that i'll be part of that you know right and so so as i'm leading through all these people i find one and um okay so i meet him and this guy was he was 26 years old and i think i was about 43 at the time right and and this guy was absolutely gorgeous i mean this I mean, he just, let's just say he, he was just over the top.

And he treated me really well. He just, he was actually, it seemed to me as if he was going to try, he really wanted me to not do this with other guys. He wanted, he was like, I don't know what your husband's about. He goes, but, you know, he goes, I was really horny when I answered your ad. He goes, now that I've met you, he goes, I don't know what your husband's about, but I wouldn't want to share you with anyone else. Right. So he and I actually did not do anything with other people. He and I just kind of started being together for a little while.

And then I, you know, talked to my husband and I said, you know, I haven't felt like this in 25 years. And I, you know, need to be truthful with you. So I kind of want to, I kind of want to be with him. And so he, you know, basically just begged me not to leave him. And I think about a week or so, I find out that this guy, who, yeah, I've been seeing this guy for, it was actually a really short time, about a month and a half.

And I kind of let him know that, you know, I'm talking to my husband and trying to end it. Right. And he thought I was a sugar mama, which, which he eventually found out that I wasn't. Oh. He thought, well, wow, you know, because the guy, the guy I was married to was a year younger than him. So we thought, well, if you're married to this guy, then you must be a sugar mama.

Right. So he was telling me about how he was actually working as a masseuse and giving guys hand jobs. Here he is in the Army, but he's telling me that he also works part-time because he's got to pay all kinds of bills and he needs money. He's got all kinds of credit. debt. And so I'm thinking, wow, is this guy really given me this story? So I'll feel bad enough to say, no, stop doing that and here's some money. Right. And anyways, so then, you know, we just started talking. And he ended up, he ended up being a person that I, you know, really just did not need to be with because he was really only looking for sugar mama. Right. Was he really giving hand jobs to other guys? Do you do? You know, I don't really know if he was. but he really made it sound like he really was.

Right. And that it was making, you know, he was making extra money on the side doing that. Right. Because, you know, I mean, most guys, I think they would want a massage from a woman. But if they wanted a massage, of course, if he wanted a massage from a man, then, you know, he was willing to go as far as he had to go. Right. Because he needed to pay his goals is what he told me. And so, you know, I'm kind of, kind of been around and I kind of know.

you know, that kind of have a feeling that you're telling me a story because you're, you're fishing, you're fishing for something. Right, he was fishing for money, maybe. Yeah, and I never offered, you know, I was just like, well, maybe you could find a different job, you know? But that's not this guy, but how did you met this guy? So that ended. So this guy, yeah.

So this guy, he had answered the ad at the same time. And so what I did was I went back and I remembered. I remembered his email. I remember it that, well, you know, if I hadn't had chosen the first guy, then I would have chosen him. And so I went back through all, shifted through all my emails and found his email and then wrote him back. Right. And he was like, oh, I'm so glad that you know. I thought, you know, I didn't, I thought he had chosen other people.

So I just, you know. And so I said, no, you know, I'm really interested in you. So we met. And we started having sex. And, well, you know, we went out to dinner and all that, and we both decided we really were into each other. And so we started a sexual relationship. And my husband came home on leave, and we had a meeting. Now, at first, I didn't, you know, I thought, well, you know, give this guy.

He answered my head. But for some reason, I did not want to get him involved in any, any, you know, multiple persons. You wanted to be just with him alone? or not at or you just didn't want to be with him at all. Yeah, I just wanted him. I wanted to be with him alone. Oh, okay. I didn't want to be involved because, you know, I guess, I guess how I felt was what he seemed to me was like a, the kind of person who wouldn't really be into all of that stuff. Uh-huh. You know, and I wasn't thinking, wow, he was uncreculus and he was looking. So how could he not be? So, so just as I knew that my husband was coming back from overseas. And so just before he came back, I was kind of, slowly easing into hey so what do you think about having sex

with me and my husband right okay right okay um being involved in that you know the three of us being naked not you know just me and you right just I don't know just for some reason just he just doesn't seem like the kind of person just too straight-laced looking and really

quiet really shy just not seeming to be of someone who would be into that and so when I introduced him to it and said hey you know I'd like you I would like you to consider I thought, you know, my husband's coming back, and when he comes back, will you, will you get involved in a threesome with us? And he said, yeah, of course. Sure. Just like that.

And I think I had been seeing him for, like, three or four months at that time. So when my husband came back, you know, he was home for a month. But he didn't like the idea that I kept getting calls and text messages from, you know, this guy. Right. Yeah. So he got jealous and when he left and went back to Afghanistan, he actually set my phone so that every time John would send me a text message, it would say, John is sending you a text message. Oh, he would hear from another room. Yeah. So he'd hear my phone. You go, oh, your boyfriend's calling you again. Your boyfriend's texting you. What's going on between the two of you? So he was getting pretty jealous about it. And so, of course, you know, he had access to looking at the phone bill.

And he saw that, you know, we spent a lot of time texting each other and talking to each other. And so he basically, he was gone for two weeks. And then he sent me an instant message and said he wanted a divorce. Oh, wow. And then that set you free to go date this other guy. You want it to, right? Yep, yep. And so you just transitioned right in with him.

And so you've given up all these other kinds of stories, you know, these other kinds of things with this guy. And now he's never brought it up to you that he's wanted to do anything. No, no, he's never brought it up. I brought it up to him once about, okay, here's another twist to my whole story. My second husband, his, he was married several times, one of his wives and I became really good friends. and we messed around with each other. She would go down on me. She actually asked me a couple of times, you know, she could go down on me because

she wanted to practice because she wanted to get into more, doing more of that stuff with our ex-husband who was her present husband at the time. Okay. So anyway, so they had divorced, and she had come up to Washington to visit. and so I, well, she and I and my husband got together. Okay, so you had a threesome with a woman. We had a threesome with her, and we invited a couple of other guys, and, you know, so we kind of all got into that.

And so when I, with John here, I asked him, she said she was coming out to Washington, so I asked him if he would like to do a threesome with her. he hadn't done one at all and so um not with another woman and so um so he said yeah sure you know and she came out and the thing was he ended up being sick that day so he couldn't we couldn't do it oh no way did you do it with the girl by yourself or just nothing went down no nothing at all so he missed that and now let me ask you this because i feel like most guys would harp on that like they would say, okay, you know, they're sick, but like, let's do it another day. Did he do, so he never just brought it up again?

No, she only visited for that short period of time. Right. And so I just said, you know, I go, here's the thing is that when it was okay for me because I knew she was going to be gone. She was only going to be there for a couple days and then she would be gone. And this whole trust issue was about, well, if. Right. With her, plus she didn't live there. Like you said, you knew her. She was going back home. So you could never have to worry about her. Right. Right. But if it was another woman that was living in our town or, you know, a couple hours away, whatever, you know, they could hook up behind my back. And I didn't want that. So.

Yeah, no, that's smart. You don't want to start, you know. So when you bring third person into it, you know, if you're not really on the same page or there's trust issues, like things could go horribly wrong. But, you know, it's good that you had that. I mean, it seems like you got it out of your system. in that first, that one relationship where you got to do like really basically live out like all of your fantasies, right? With that one guy, he really allowed you to do all the stuff that you always wanted to do. Right, right. And he actually wanted a lot more. But, you know, I was like, gosh. Where did you draw the line?

Where did you draw the line? Like, what did he want that you said no to? Um, well, it was more that he wanted it to be like every single night. Oh, okay. Right, right. Every single night. You know, it was like. because he was, he was awake out there and, you know, just nothing to do.

Right. So, you know, so he was, well, why don't you call someone? Why don't you call someone? And, oh, well, there was this, well, there was one time. Now, the guy, this guy was coming to my house. And I had talked to him a couple of times, and he sent me a picture of himself. And so I gave him, I gave him the, uh, my address. and when I went to go answer the door

he ended up being this I don't know he must have been four or five hundred pounds oh god right and it was not the guy that I was like well you're certainly not the guy that's in this picture right you know and so

he's like well I think you could say no if I sent you my real picture and I said yeah you're right you're right and so he's like oh he goes I'm really a nice guy you know, could you just at least let me eat your pussy? Could you please just let me do that? I let him in.

She just let the guy in. Right. And I think that was, that was it. I started to cry and it was terrible because he was doing a great job. But I could not believe that I was actually going that far as to, wow, why am I doing this? Right. So that was where you kind of realized like you weren't into that anymore. No, yeah.

So, yeah, I was, he was really nice, and he, you know, he kind of just said, okay, well, I'm so sorry. You know, I'm sorry to his arms around me. He said, I'm really sorry. I didn't, you know, I guess, you know, you're really not into me or anything like that. And he goes, you know, but I just want to thank you because you let me to, you know, have a taste. Right. And you were like, yeah, I want to thank you for ruining my sex life now. Thanks.

Well, you know, and at the time, actually, actually seeing John still. But, you know, nothing was really serious with him yet because I was still married and all that. And this guy, this guy, you know, he had mentioned to me, John said, you know, he goes, I really hate to tell you this. He goes, but, you know, he goes, it's not in my business. He goes, but, you know, one of the things that really scares me, he goes, you know, and I'm a nice person. He goes, but you could get a very not nice person coming to your house. You give them the address. They come to your house.

And what about your kids? Right. You know, if you're sleeping in the next room, you know, what if they come back and hurt your kids? You know? And so he ended up telling me a story about his dad who turned out to be gay after his mother died. And he was bringing home guys all the time. And I guess he had one of these guys. babysit and his youngest brother his dad did so his dad left this man who he didn't even know

stay home a babysit for him and he raped his little brother yeah we know where that goes that's going right so you start to realize that you don't want to put your kids in jeopardy I mean you're lucky that nothing happened before that with all these other people right exactly exactly but most of those other people didn't it didn't happen in the house it happened you know in a hotel right right That's cool. Yeah. So John got you kind of straight. Yeah.

I mean, he was like a little bit of the voice of reason for you. Definitely, yeah. Right. It just kind of made me say, yeah, you're right, you know. I shouldn't do that. And at the same time, you know, we talked about how he was married at the time. And that was my issue with, you know, trusting that he was married at the time when he met me. Right.

And that's like if people want to, you know, get that information. And, you know, I don't know. somebody's I don't know that everyone listens to every single podcast right so if someone's listening to this podcast first if you want to know what's going on like that's what the first podcast was all about basically your relationship with this guy and you're very distrustable and we went back and talked about all your other relationships and sort of why and how you got to a place of like really not trusting guys but this one we just wanted to focus on all your little escapades and that's what we did and it was very interesting my guys that listen to my well a lot of guys

listen to my podcast a lot of women too but I know that whenever I have women on that talk very openly about having this kind of like sex of all people and enjoying it you know they love to hear that i think it's because you know men just want to know that women like sex as much as they do you know or they're all like in their fantasy it's like they just want to meet a woman like that right um so it's you know it's uh it's always great to have on a woman that's going to talk about that stuff because people love it yeah you know it's absolutely great i love doing it and if i wasn't in relationship now, I'd probably go back to doing it. Right. So if ever this ends with John, you will go back out there and start doing that kind of

stuff again. Right. Okay. Well, keep us posted. I think, you know, things are good with John right now and you're working on your trust issues. We don't want to get into that again. But, you know, let me know if you're ever back out there doing your thing or if you ever want to call back in and talk about anything, I'd love to have you back on. Thanks for calling in and being honest about this stuff. It was very interesting. All right. Thank you. Thanks, Susan. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly

Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talked about on my show. show, like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a

total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. stories, 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two, and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my discord. My discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you, get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book.

There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.