Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 298 - Mitch Wants to Live Out his Cuckold Fantasy with his Wife

Episode Date: August 26, 2019

Mitch and his wife have tried to live out his cuckold fantasy in real life but it has yet to happen. What's stopping him? What's stopping her? What have they tried so far? And, will it ever happen? Tune in for all the details which include the threesomes they've tried to have, the threesome they actually had, their exhibitionist and glory hole experiences, his wife's response when they role play now, his bisexual fantasy and how it could be cock-blocking his cuckold fantasy and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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be on the show. Today I've found a guy named Mitch. Now, Mitch called in, or he wrote in first, and then called in to talk all about his cuckolding fantasy. And it's not just like a fantasy. It's something that him and his wife well, like they roleplay a lot and they've come, like, really

close to sort of living this fantasy out. It's more his fantasy than hers. Though I suspect it's hers too, and you're going to have to listen to all his stories to figure out what you think as well. But he calls in to talk about all that. And like I said, he has this, like, hardcore cuckolding thing

that is bringing out sort of other fantasies of his that maybe he's conflicted with. You have to tune in to find out about that or hear him talk about that. And it's something that he's kind of been open with his wife and they've done some role playing and they've done some exes. exhibitionist stuff and gotten really close to, you know, cuckolding in real life. But he's always

sort of not been able to make it happen or they haven't been able to make it happen. But he's more the driving force to make it happen and the person who hasn't made it happen. You're going to have to listen to understand this intro. I mean, if you want to chime in, because I think this guy needs a little help from some people other than me. I mean, I told him what I think. I think after you listen to him talking about the whole situation and why they have. haven't sort of done it in real life because that's what he ultimately wants to happen, right? If you want to chime in and sort of help him like I felt compelled to do after listening to his story, go to the Reddit page. I told him I'm going to tell people to go there. It's Reddit.com

slash let's talk S a podcast. Go there and help this guy out because he just needs a push in the right direction because him and his wife, like I said, do this role playing thing. They've come really close to doing it in real life. They've done some a lot of exhibitionist stuff that sort of teetered and opened the window for people to come and sort of join in. Yet he still doesn't totally believe that his wife is into it. But, you know, I think she is and you probably will think she is and you got to tell him that she is so that he could have the balls to talk about it with her a little bit more. It's like a, it's like an interesting sort of dilemma. It's a really interesting story too. I think in a couple months they could be sort of living out there

cuckolding fantasy in real life. I think she's down. I'm curious what you think. You'll have to listen to the whole podcast to figure it out. And then go to the Reddit page, like I said, if you want to chime in and help him out. His name is Mitch. He's into cuckolding. I think his wife is into it too. And I'm going to be right back on with him, with Mitch. And you can hear for yourself. How are you doing today? I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. Yeah, thanks for calling in. You're like in your car in a parking lot somewhere, like a lot of my other guests, which I don't know why I think that's funny. I just think that's hilarious. I think a lot of people cheat and have sex in cars, too. Like, I just think things that happen in

cars besides driving is like kind of funny. I don't know why. But anyway, you have an interesting story. And I just reread through your email. And you have like this whole cuckled fantasy that's really hardcore, right? Now, from what I got from the email was that maybe you sort of talked about this with a friend of yours and then you brought it up with your wife and you guys have never really sort of done anything in real life, but this is something that you sort of live out like in your fantasy life sort of behind her back, right? Yes, it's definitely a very complicated timeline of events that started. I would say, I mean, like I said, we've been together since high school. Oh, wow. Junior high school. Yeah. So we are

36 now. Mm-hmm. So, you know, it's probably been happening since around college, freshman near college, 19 years old, 20 years old, where the idea first, you know, started being intriguing. Right. But let me ask you this. Was this, like, the idea intriguing when you were, like, jerking off thinking about it yourself? Or was it, like, intriguing when you were talking to a friend? Or was it intriguing when you were, like, talking to your girl? So pretty much, it was mainly by myself. You know, I was starting to, you know, watch, you know, certain types of porn. And my, my girlfriend at the time was my life now is a pretty, you know, she's well endowed, not heavy at all.

Just, you know, she has a very pretty big chest. So that would always be my interest. And then I came across where there was a, you know, a busty girl getting, having sex with two guys. And when I saw that, it's just like my interest just peaked. And then through finding certain scenes like that, it turned into there was a scene where a wife was having sex with her husband and someone else. And that's where the initial, you know, thoughts started coming up. Right. So it started off like in fantasy.

So like when you would see those like large chest of women on porn, you would pretend that like that was your wife or your girl and you were watching her get fucked by somebody else. Right. And you realize, wow, that turns you on. Exactly. Exactly. So we. You know, my roommate in college was my best friend since freshman year high school. And I really, I honestly have, don't know where the conversation actually or how it started with him.

You know, I know that, you know, before me and my wife started dating in high school, you know, we all knew each other. He's definitely made some comments about her in the past, you know, so about her being, you know, pretty sexy and whatnot. So it just happened where we've something, you know, it just turned into like, hey, would you, you know, what if the girls were interested in swapping? Would you, would you be interested? And he was all about it. And it wasn't anything that was really too, too serious. But, you know, it was just something that came up. And I brought it, I brought it up to a girlfriend at the time, you know, and then she said, you know, she was not at all for it. So, you know, I didn't really, I didn't really push it. I wasn't really surprised. So I didn't really force anything. Did you ever find out whether his girl was for it? She definitely wasn't either. She wasn't like that. And again, I actually knew his girlfriend before I knew, you know, my girlfriend at the time.

You know, we've all been friends since, like, freshman year of high school. So too close to home, maybe for everybody. Yeah. And they were really good friends, too. Right. So, you know, I knew it was just something that wouldn't happen, but, you know, figured. You put it out there and everyone said no, but it didn't, like, ruin your friends. relationship, I mean, your girl stayed with you.

Exactly. Yes. Okay. So, you know, and then from there, you know, it was usually, you know, after a few drinks, you know, my wife is pretty, I wouldn't want to say prude, but, you know, definitely it needs a few drinks to, you know, have, let her inhibitions go and, you know, she'll, you know, start saying some things or doing some things or, you know, getting a little bit more kinky, you know, when, you know, after a couple of drinks.

So I never really bring it up sober, but, you know, it kind of graduated to, you know, as we were having sex, I'd be saying, you know, like, tell me how do you want, you know, my roommate at the time, you know, how you want him to fuck you and, you know, how big his dick is and, you know, how good is a feel. And she would. She would say his name and she would go and start saying all that stuff. Could you tell like she was getting turned off? I mean, I know she was drunk, right?

And you were drunk, but like, not really, but she wasn't really too, too drunk. Could you tell she was getting? No, no, no, no. I want to know if you could tell. The reason why I'm bringing her that they were, she was drunk,

is like I, and you were drunk is because I want to know if you could tell that this was actually turning her on or was she doing it to appease you? Do you know what I mean? Like, yes. So, um,

back then I kind of feel like she was doing it to appease me. Okay. you know so um so we would do that and and she would and you know like I said she would say things and then afterwards you know I'd ask her and she and she would say no you know but that's happened a few times where you know we've had that kind of role club um and then um we actually I would say it was around her 21st birthday you know we were we went out to a club or a bunch of us and, you know, we, as we were leaving me and her took a cab home, and, you know, in the back of the cab, like, you know, we were both just getting into it,

and she leaned over, you know, the divider, and, you know, her chest is over there, and we were having sex, and, you know, and I was just saying, you know, I even told the driver, like, if you want to touch, you could touch, and, you know, she wasn't really moving, but the guy didn't really do anything. Oh, my God. We weren't really, yeah, we weren't really forcing it. So a lot of the times we do certain things like that. We kind of leave the opportunity out there.

You know, and if it happened, it happened, but not really saying, hey. Not really setting it up formally. Right. But you open the window for sure. Yes. And, you know, we did that. Again, nothing happened. But it was just something like having sex in front of someone.

It was a huge, huge turn on. And then, you know, The stories just keep going. So I was actually just looking at, you know, my past emails just to see when this trip was. So it was around 2007. We went to Mexico. And, you know, we were around there and we were having drinks. But everything kind of closed around 10 o'clock, 10 or 11 o'clock.

So we couldn't get me drinks. So there happened to be, which just happened to be random. It wasn't really planned on my part, but there happened to be a strip club across the show. street from the hotel. So we asked and they said they served drinks until 2 a.m. So we were like, you know, the first night we didn't do anything,

we then after a while we were like, you know, it's kind of early. We, you know, let's just go in there. We'll have some drinks and, you know, we'll just keep it, you know, simple and nothing crazy. So we went in there. We were having drinks and the manager

came up to us and gave us a few shots and we're saying anything we need, You know, well, you know, he'll accommodate us. So me and my wife got to talking and, you know, and I just said, you know, would you want to have a threesome tonight? And she said, if we're going to do it, we're on vacation, it is what it is, you know, like whatever you want to do. And I said, okay, then I asked the manager.

I'm like, you know, can you accommodate that? And he was talking and I said, do you have men and women? and he said, yeah, either or we can, you know, we can help you out. So I said, all right, can you just give us a few minutes? And, you know, me and her were talking and she was like, whatever you want to do, if that's what you want to do, you know, have another guy, then, you know, let's just do it. And for some reason, I don't know. I just couldn't pull the trigger with that.

And we ended up having, taking another girl home. Let me ask you this, though. Did they, like, did they bring you a guy and you were like, no? Or did you just? No. Oh, okay. Because I was wondering like what the guy would look like. Yeah.

No, I know. I was thinking that too. But it was just, I was like, all right. You know, like, I'm nervous. Right. Yeah, let's do the girl. Maybe, you know, I know that I'm going to keep my boundaries and, what's it called? And really take this slow because in my mind, this has been a long fantasy.

And I'm actually make, there's actually some progress being made. So we took the girl back. and, you know, the girl blew me. She was, you know, eating out my girlfriend, and they were going back and forth with each other. I didn't do anything to the other girl. You know, I just stayed and I was pleasuring my wife as, you know, them two were kissing or whatever else they were doing.

Because, like I said, I didn't really want to, it was, we're on vacation. I didn't want to cause any friction. I'm just very nervous about rooting a relationship that, you know, Because it doesn't sound like... Right, and it doesn't sound like you guys had a lot of rules and regular... Like, it wasn't... Because, like, I think a lot of times when people are going into these kinds of scenarios, you know, if you're really talking about it, like, people set up, like, rules and boundaries and,

you know, stuff ahead of time, right? But because you guys were always kind of doing it, like, tiptoeing around it, right? Like, you were kind of going in this without any of that stuff. So you were being extra careful, right? Because you didn't kind of know what you could do or not do, but you didn't want to fuck it up, which is smart. Exactly. Exactly, exactly.

So. Was a girl hot? Was it a stripper? Is that what they got? You a hooker? It was a stripper. She was, she was gorgeous, actually. Okay.

But, you know, we both finished. Did you have to pay? Yes. Okay. Yes. So we, they left and my, you know, my wife. I'm just going to keep calling her my wife. Wait, wait.

You said they left. Who's they left? Well, well, she left. You know, the stripper. Oh, the stripper. Okay. Yes. So, you know, afterwards my wife was very, you know, very embarrassed and she didn't want to talk about it. The next morning she didn't want to talk about it.

She was kind of upset. And, you know, in my mind, I'm thinking, thank God I didn't do anything, you know, because it could have just been a hundred times worse. Yeah, right, exactly. Well, you did get a blow job and she did let the girl go down on her. You know, so that was like a lot of new things for her to sort of. have taken at one time. Exactly. Exactly.

So, you know, when I saw her get very upset and whatnot, I really put this whole thing on the back burner. I didn't really speak about it. There's been very, you know, tons of different avenues to, you know, enjoy the fantasy as far as, you know, porn and, you know, the internet, you know, where it wasn't as readily available, you know, earlier when I first started. so I said I'm just going to you know I'm going to put the phone of that

Burn her and yeah play very safe let me ask you just real quick before you move on from this story did you think that like okay she's kind of like drunk in this scenario yes okay did she have orgasms with this girl

she didn't and she said afterwards she said I didn't get a chance to finish and I said you know once I finished the girl kind of stopped and I said you know but she only told me that after she left. Right. Okay. You know, so it wasn't like I could say, hey, you know, like, do what you guys got to do.

But do you think that she was, like, enjoying herself with the girl? Like, did you guys ever talk about whether she was, like, buy or had any kind of buy fantasies? Or did you never even discuss that before or after? I asked her, I owe, not that I always do, but I have to, you know, fantasies. Just tell me, you know, anything, you know, it's me, you know, we've known each other since we were, you know, 15, you know, like, you can tell me anything. going to judge you. It is what it is. And she just always said, I don't know. I don't know. I don't really have any. I never really

thought about it. You know, which to me is kind of like a yes. Come on. I don't know. I don't know. I think someone that knows is like and that sounds like someone maybe that either doesn't know or someone that knows but is maybe a little shy to admit it. Yeah. And I don't know. We were watching a show the other day and this girl was it was like a comedy show

and the girl was pleasuring herself and I just asked her I'm like you know like sometimes I work 24 hour shifts and whatever may be you ever do that or whatever and she says she's never done it

never jerked off to watching or jerked up at all? Yeah you know I have some girlfriends that have told me that like have said and I just can't even believe I don't know but there has to be people

like that, right? Because there's, you can't say, like, you can never say, you know what I mean, like, but there, but I don't think that that's the norm. Do you actually think that, is she that uptight that she might never pleasure herself even by herself? I don't, I, again, like you said, is uptight the right word, I don't know. I don't know if uptight is the right word. Yeah, so I, I, I can't picture her never doing, I can't picture anybody never doing it, you know, considering, well, let me ask you this is she a very horny person maybe like this is the how i would see that maybe it would like for me i'm like i don't understand that but i was not the type of person that's always in long-term relationships i'd have like booty call guys that i could do fuck it whenever i wanted but like

it wasn't like every day i had someone with me that i could fuck right so like i would have to take care of business but like maybe with your girl right um in your situation because she had you in her life from very early on. If you guys were having sex a lot, right? Like every time you saw each other and you guys saw each other every day. Like maybe she'd never jerked off because she was always like you sort of scratched that itch for her. Is that maybe possible?

It's definitely as possible. Like were you guys having a lot of sex with each other is what I'm trying to say? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe she didn't. So maybe in her situation, it would make sense. that she never really did because you were always there to sort of service her.

So, right? Maybe. Well, that means I have serious problems then because I think I have myself a lot, you know? Yeah, but like some people need to come more than once a day. You know what I mean? Like everybody's different. I think maybe sometimes especially a younger guy is a little bit more horny than like a, and listen, this isn't to say that that's always the case, right?

But maybe the norm, the majority of the time, guys are going to maybe be interested in coming a lot more than once a day, once a day, whereas a woman, once a day might be enough most of the time. I'm not saying that there's not outliers on both sides of these things. You know what I mean? You can never just sort of make a statement and it applies to everybody, right? But I have heard about, like I said, these women, I had a couple of friends and be like, I never jerked off, but they weren't like your girl.

Like, I think with your girl, because like you said, you were together really young and you've been together forever that maybe like she really didn't, but only because she was having sex with you every single day. Yeah. Right? Yeah, possibly. Very possible. So maybe that's why she never did. But did you ever, so she would say about the like the whole buy thing like I don't really know. Now when you asked her about, did you ever ask her about that experience with that like hot stripper? Like did you say did you get turned on? Like did you like it? Did you enjoy it? Did you ever ask her that? It's this subject even though we'll roleplay about it and do certain things. Like I still.

I kind of never bring it up unless this unless kind of the situation I feel like is it's going to whatever like is actually going to be okay with her to talk about or role play about it during set whatever it may be but um never out of the blue um because I just don't know how she would react towards it especially now because when we have two kids and things may be a little bit different and, you know, the time we have to get, like her, her mindset may be a little different than it was when, when we were 23, you know, 22. So I'm just like, again, I don't know if I'm playing it way too safe, but I'm kind of tiptoeing that line of. Yeah, and I'm wondering, like, does she, because you're like, I don't know how she's going to like, sort of take it. Like,

I'm just curious as far as, like, what kind of roles you guys take in the relationship and, like, what kind of person she is? Because I'm trying to figure out, like, do you sort of toe that line, And like, and you're overly cautious because she, like, you know, shuts you down a lot. And, like, that's just the way that she is. So you never know how she's going to feel about something. Or is it because you're just like a really kind of passive sort of, you know, I don't want to rock the boat, non-controversial, like, you know, confrontational kind of person. Like, I'm just trying to figure out why you're that way. You know what I mean?

You actually put, you hit the nail on the head. But it's kind of a little bit of both. you know because I feel like if I bring it up she would shut it down and then in my mind that like all right this this fantasy of having a three-sum or more some is is not going to happen and at the same time it is I am a very you know when I when I need to be a very passive and you know I would try to avoid the competition you know if at all possible so it's so it's more I think it's more like your personality and I think listen I think you have been like at the edge of like having this almost happen more than just this time at the strip club because there's another time when you said you guys were traveling abroad right like there's a couple

times where you've been very close to maybe this happening right so I think in your mind you're kind of like you know always waiting for it to actually happen that you don't want to like maybe if you say something you could like fuck it up for real right because and like take five steps backwards, right? But you're still haven't taken one step forward, right, in a really long time. So you're like, what the fuck? Right. So, I mean, yeah, there was a time when we, you know, I rented, we got a hotel in Manhattan. And, you know, we were drinking. We were doing some other things that, you know, at that age.

And, you know, we had the hotel. And, you know, and I said, again, we were roleplaying. And I said, you know, what if I went downstairs to the bar versus street? And I found, found, found someone to join us would you be in and she said yes um and i went and i had two two separate guys and they and i probably didn't approach them the right way probably because i was nervous and like how do you say yeah like how did you pick the guy like and what did you say and how did they react yeah um pretty much you know i showed them a picture and i was like listen i have i have a hotel room across the street me my wife is pretty much looking to you know have a threesome and, you know, just looking for a guy, you know.

And, you know, I kind of picked, you know, not grown men, you know, more of like a group of younger guys thinking, hey, you know what, like someone that was like, all right, you know, he's a pretty self-sufficient guy, you know, he shouldn't have to be worried or whatever may be, you know, and like can take care of himself, you know, and they were both just like, no, you know, I'm all right, you know, good luck, you know, pretty much both of them. And after a while, you know, I was like, I can't leave her up in the room that much long. longer, like, I'm just going to go back off and, you know, we try. I tried, you know, like, the least I could say, dude.

Oh, my God, that's kind of hilarious. Let me ask you that, like, was that, like, during Craigslist times? Like, maybe you could have, like, put an ad out and been, like, you know, get back to me ASAP. We got this hotel room. Like, you know, I don't know. Like, to just. I probably could have.

Mm-hmm. I probably could have, but then I just get nervous about all those stories about, you know, who's going to come and, you know, whatever may be. I kind of just wanted to be the one in charge of choosing. Yeah, but I just think it's, I wish I was friends with one of those guys that you went up to because they would have called me when they got home and be like, you would not believe. Like I'm at this bar and some guys like ripping out a picture. Do I mean? Like they have a really interesting story on their end too, you know, because and it's just funny to me that like you just went up to these random guys in a bar and like propose that and they were like, no.

Yeah. And it's just kind of frustrating. I mean, not to pat myself in the fact when my wife is actually a very beautiful, beautiful. woman like I definitely um upgraded you know I definitely she's definitely downgrading with me I would say but um you know like I so I was kind of thinking like this shouldn't be too hard but I probably came off looking like a weirdo and whatnot so no but it's also yeah exactly listen I think a lot of guys maybe when they got home you know they were like fuck you know like why didn't I take that you know but I think to just sort of be proposition like that out of the blue think

about like you're the cautious guy not wanting to go on Craigslist you know these guys are probably thinking like what's gonna like they don't know that you're gonna go up there and it's gonna be a guy fucking them in the at like you know what I mean like especially I have to say especially like if my Frankie moment told me he'd be like yeah and his wife was like a 10.5 like if she's that hot they probably were like this is there's no way this is real do you know I mean it's almost like too good to be true yeah yeah do you know what I mean this so that no 100%. And I think I would

their year or in the next 10 years, I think it would have been a great story that they would have been telling to this day. Yeah, they probably would. Like, you know, listen, they didn't, just like I said, like you were afraid of the Craigslist thing. You know, if you're some guy in a bar and some guy just comes up to you, like,

or stay in and cross, like, you know, I think maybe if they had an hour to think about it and get back to you or talk to you about it and ask questions, you know, and it was a different scenario. Maybe they would have jumped on it. Yeah, but I think it's like a little weird and you know they might have been cautious themselves because they didn't like I said they thought it was too good to be true

You know they don't know if you're gonna fucking knife them when you go back you know I don't know You know or film them like who knows it's just too bad because it was the real deal Yeah And the fact that she wanted it like and she said okay and then when you went up was she like disappointed you didn't find someone Not really She was just like, all right, you know, like just kind of moved on, you know. So, again, I still think at that point, she was, I mean, listen, I think if, and there's got to be some part in her mind that was thinking, all right, you know, if I'm going to do this, you know, I got to, you know, there's got to be, I don't want to say she may have wanted it, but she was okay with it. You know, I don't think she definitely totally would do it to appease me, you know, like 100%.

Yeah, we still don't know, and I'm going to have to ask you a million questions, like whether this is something that makes her really horny or. This is something she just does for you. Well, this is the, as the stories go on, I think more recently, I think I made a lot of progress where I think now it's starting to make her, you know, really horny. So, I mean, before I skip to that, you know, we were like, you know, I mentioned traveling abroad. And not that these are any crazy stories, but it was another instance where, you know, after dinner, went to a few bars. and we would just like, you know, we kind of put it out there. So we kind of were just like, let's, you know, let's do something crazy. Let's have sex, you know, out on the street somewhere.

Not like on a major boulevard, like down a block around a bend, you know. So, you know, there's a chance people could come and see us. But, you know, it's not like right in the open. So it was kind of that like anxious, nervous, you know, you know, you still have that butterflies of doing it. It was, you know, so we did it and we were in Prague. In Germany, you know, by the time we finished, it was kind of late. Nobody really walked by us. But Prague, it was like, you know, a group of guys.

And then, you know, and they saw and they just kept walking. And it was one of the things like, hey, they came walking towards us. Different story. Maybe something would happen. But I wasn't calling. We weren't calling them over, you know. Right. It was kind of like, hey, let's just see what happens.

That's a little exhibitionist of the two of you. I think that that crosses over into that whole cuckling thing a little bit, right? Because it's like liking to be watched and watching and, you know. Yes, exactly. And at the time when I'm on, the fantasies just gets grown like exponentially. And, you know, to the point of, you know, I'm finding certain sites, you know, where it's, you know, pretty much, you showing pictures of, you know, the white guys, you know, reaching out to you and, you know, either, you know, having, you know, phone conversation or a cam and them talking about, you know,

fucking my wife. And, you know, it's just, and it seems like so real because now you have an actual guy, what you would do when you're seeing them pleasure themselves to her and talking about her, saying her name, you know, so it just, it. But this is something that you do behind her back, right? She doesn't know about this stuff. No, no, not at all. Not at all.

And, you know, everything, anything like if I were to show a picture or whatever made me, I would never show anything, you know, explicit or anything like that. You know, pretty much anything that she has already posted, you know, that could be out in the public. You know, something like that. Let me ask you this. Do you show her face? No. You show her tits?

Her body. Okay, right, right. So mainly, mainly, like, you know, I'll find pictures where she's, you know, going out and she's, you know, a different shirt and, you know, they're kind of pushed up and, you know, things like that, you know, they have, you know, the other guys are, they don't even want to see anymore and they're totally satisfied at that. You know, and conversation just, just go crazy. And, you know, it's just, it's something that I never thought I would be doing. and now it's gotten to that level that anytime I'm alone I'm going on this site and you know there's people that are like

oh you're back I can't wait to see you know you know she sent me those same pictures you know I can't stop thinking about fucking her and you know it just it gets pretty hot and let me ask you this do they send you picks of their wife and you're thinking about them as well are you doing like a swap kind of scenario

no mainly mainly them just with mine Okay. You know, and, you know, and it's one of those things where I'll finish, you know, if I, if I jerk off and I come. And it's one of those things where, like, I kind of feel like, why did I do that? When you're done? Yeah, I'm not necessarily sure that, you know, I'm, I don't know, I'm not necessarily sure that I would do anything bisexual, you know. But, like, sometimes when the conversation's going, you get, you know, you get very horny and you're like,

wow, you know, I would do, I would probably do anything right now, most things. And, you know, and then once I'm done, I'm like, all right, I don't, I don't think I'll ever do that again. You know, like, I kind of regret it. So maybe when you're talking with these guys, you do a little by sort of fantasy talk as well. Okay. Yes. Now, is this a new thing that you sort of got into? Because, like, when you're in that headspace and you're just so horny and that whole sort of scenario is playing out, you'd go there?

or is this something you've always sort of known about yourself? No, no, no. It just goes there and it's something brand new. You know, something brand new, definitely. And that freaks you out when you're not horny. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't look at any, you know, other guys and think like, oh, there's, you know, anything like that.

Like that just, it doesn't, that doesn't turn me on at all. It's just something like, you know, if someone, you know, me and the guy were having, you know, sex. of my wife, you know, would I, would I, you know, during the conversation, we're like, I grab you and I put you inside her and things like that. But like, I never really, you know, once I'm done, it's not something that I think about. I still think about guys fucking her, but I don't think about me doing anything like that. Right, but let me ask you this. When you're talking to them, right, and you're doing, and you're in that fantasy and you

and that guy, right, about your wife, do you, like, does he put his dick in your mouth? Do you suck him off? Like, is it any of that stuff or it's just like, oh, I'll take your dick. and put it inside her and look it looked so good or whatever i mean how far do you take that with the guy um um i get into a little bit of oral yeah so you do buy stuff in your fantasy life but it's not something that you feel like you would ever really be interested in doing in real life but in your fantasy it's like hot to you yes yes yeah that's fine but you feel freaked out about it when you're done when you're not yeah because

you know, in the same breath, I feel like, you know, I don't know if I'd want to, you know, beat the shit out of this guy after, you know, I finish coming. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like, so that's where that's the. No, I don't know what you mean. What does that mean? You know, like, sort of like if the guy was having sex with my wife and I finished,

I'm like, I've had this fantasy for so long and I wanted it for so long. And then like, I'll finish. How do I know how I'm going to? feel at minute and if this guy is still fucking her even though I'm done oh are you gonna like feel jealous all of a sudden or am i gonna get jealous and be like hey get the fuck out of here you know i think you i think i would i think i would she was okay with the girl blowing you i mean we can't forget about that she saw a girl blow you and in my mind i think like you know i would never do anything with a friend i would definitely do something with a strange someone that we would never have to see again

And if, you know what, if it happens, we chalk it up as like, listen, you had sex or something. You didn't, you're not having an ongoing relationship with them. It's a one-time thing. We tried it. We either liked it or we didn't like it and we move on. You know, so my mind, I keep telling myself that if this ever did happen. In real life, right? Yes, yes.

Right. Maybe. I just had this thought, like, maybe you haven't been able to be successful and you've been teetering sort of like at that line of like almost doing. it but not really doing it right like going out to find a guy and like talking to you guys and not finding it and giving up like or being like you know it's sort of not making it happen and crossing the finish line maybe it's because you you're a little afraid of like how you would react in the real situation could that be yeah no i i i i think so and it's more about how i would be how I would react to the situation and more of like and also of like are we going to wake up for breakfast

the next morning and like just not talk to each other is our relationship going to be forever weird and it's totally yeah there's a lot of question marks yeah so it's it's just that's why I kind of never really want to just plan it I'm hoping that one day it would just happen and we say hey listen it just it just happened you know like I didn't call someone we didn't set it up we didn't set it up we didn't do this. It was something like, hey, you know, um, you know, this, this guy walked in on us and just, you know, well, did, like, yeah, I mean, granted my wife and I could have a guy on my show who, like, his, girl used to put a gun to his head.

So maybe you need that guy on. I don't know, but I think, I get where you're coming from, but I have a feeling that, like, um, you have to sort of resolve, like, you know, this, this issue in your mind first. before because it's most likely not just going to happen. I totally now understand why you have always wanted to happen that way because like your biggest fear is that it ruins your relationship or you both sort of regret it. And I think it's more about you sort of when it's over or maybe your wife too, right? I mean, you guys been together for a really long time.

Like you don't want to fuck this up, right? And because it's been a fantasy for so long, right? And that's a very safe place to sort of have it be, right? And I think it could be really scary if you're the type person that thinks things through, right? And it seems like you are. Like how it would actually play out in real life. And that's where all of this sort of stuff comes from. I just think, though, that at the end of the day, the best way is for you to eventually, like,

I think it's much better and more likely that it's going to come to play if it's planned out and done the right way. But I don't think you're ever going to get to that place until you sort of, or feel more secure with how it's going to play out. And I think that comes with having more open conversations with your girl about it. You know, it's interesting because you guys have done like and you're so close, right? And you have all the, like you've done so many things that are pretty like out there like that regular couples probably haven't done. You've gotten so close. She has like sort of given you the okay a lot of times, right?

you she like I said a million times like she saw you get blown by another girl and your relationship sort of survived that right but yet you guys and yet you're not both of you like you don't really sort of talk about it you know where you should be able to and if you could and you did I think you know a lot of conversations down the line I think then you would be ready to maybe try it in real life, you know, but I think where you are now, you still, you have all those questions because you don't know what's going on in her head. She doesn't know what's going on in your head. You don't know what's going on in your head. You have now, you have this whole new am I fucking bye thing going on in your head. Do you know what I mean? Like there's a lot of stuff

going on that's not being talked about, right? Yes, yes. And so like now with our kids, we don't really have too much, you know, free time as far as, like, going out and getting drunk and whatever. Yeah. Because, you know, there's a lot of other responsibilities. But, you know, so as I mentioned, the email, it's maybe like maybe three, four times a year. Uh-huh.

You do the role play, right? Yeah. Yeah. And now the role play, it's getting, you know, pretty heavy to the point of, like, you know, we'll be having sex and she'll be. she'll start blowing me on all fours. And as I'm laying down, I'm taking her shoulders and kind of like just rocking her body back and forth as if she's, you know, someone's fucking her from behind, you know, that body movement. And, you know, she'll get into it.

And, you know, we'll do that for a little bit. And then I'll start, you know, I'll fuck her a missionary and I'll be taking two fingers and I'll say, you know, suck it like someone else's cock. And she'll do it. And she'll just start going to town on my fingers. and then, you know, and then like the very last time, you know, she was doing that and then she was taking her arms and motioning as if she was jerking two other people off as I was fucking her and she was sucking on my fingers, you know, when we were just talking about a gang bang and like she was getting so wet.

That's what I mean, like, so now you can really tell she's fucking into it. Yeah, and she was saying like I just wanted to come all over me and, you know. Oh, my God. She's so weird. She's like, why can't, you're the problem here. Again, once I'm, like, as I'm doing it, as I'm fucking her, you know, say, like, you really mean it. She's just a yes, 100%.

And then I told her, like, you know, he said, would you fuck a black guy? And, you know, she said, yes, you know, whatever you want. And, you know, and then we'll finish. And I, you know, I don't want to ask her. And then all of a sudden she'd be like, you know, Mitch, you know, I definitely don't want to do that. And then all of a sudden it's like, great. Now my wife who looks, you know, looks at me like a man, a father, you know, the man of the family, this and the other thing, you know, he wants to see me have sex with five other men, you know?

And then in my mind, I feel like, all right, well, I'm really. Oh, my God. You are, I really, I just want to push. I just want to smack your face. Okay. Like, you're so, it's so annoying. You just, like, so ridiculous. Like, you could, you could talk about it with her after.

Like she's probably like wish you would. She's probably so pent up with this fucking thing. Like she's into it. Okay. She is into it. And her whole like whatever you want, I'll do whatever you want. Maybe she's a little submissive. Like maybe that's like a part of it for her.

Do you know what I mean? Like she just wants to do. She definitely is. Yeah. Like that's a turn on though. That's why she's saying it not because she's like just doing it for you. But that's because she likes to do it for you. Do you know what I'm saying?

She's into it. She wants to do it. She probably has all the same fears that you have. But if you guys were in it together talking about it, you guys could give each other to the security that both of you guys need, which is the other person would be okay with it. Do you know what I mean? She doesn't want to bring it up either, right?

Because she's done and then she doesn't want to say like, oh, God, I just like in my mind got fucked by five guys. Let's go do it. Because she's thinking like, how would you feel, right? But you're thinking the same thing. So split screen the two of you both sitting there like into this, but no one's saying anything. It's like ridiculous. You as the man need to fucking say it because as a woman, a woman has a lot of that whole slut whore.

You're fucking slut bullshit put on her by society. So she can't come out and be like, I want to be gang raped in front of you. Do you know what I mean? She cannot say that to her husband in fear that you would look at her like some she's a whore or a slut. you know what I mean? Which isn't the case, right? But she's going to feel that pressure because that's, that pressure is put on women all the time, right?

So you as the man have to say it. You have to throw the first ball out there. And then she's going to play ball with you. I'm telling you. But someone has to do it. And like I said, you cannot expect her to. Maybe she will eventually because she's just getting so horny for this and she just wants to happen.

And you keep failing. Like she has given you so many opportunities to make this happen. And you have never been able to pull the trigger because of your own sort of issues, right? And I just think that you have to learn how to like have a voice for yourself and really speak up and have a conversation with your wife. Like you say that, you know, it's weird that she's been with you for so long and you tell her, just tell me that you're into girls. Like we've been together. Like I don't know why she wouldn't tell me. But yet you're the same way because you have all these fantasies and you guys have all the stuff that's so obvious.

but yet when everyone's done, no, but you don't want to talk about your real stuff either. Do you know what I mean? You're both being as like sort of secretive with your desires as each other, right? There's no, you're equal on that part, but somebody has to change the game. You know what I mean?

Someone's got to, and it's, you guys are right there. Like, you could be having this. So many people listening to this are like so jealous and because it's so obvious to them that you're married to a girl that's down. she's down for it. I hope so. I mean,

what do you mean? She is. She's let you know a million times. What you have to say to her is like, listen, you know, someone has to have this car. You're having the conversation

with me, right? And you're having this conversation with thousands of people that are going to listen to this podcast, right? So you're like ready to have this conversation. You have to have this conversation with her. And it doesn't have to be like, babe,

like I can't, I really, I want to see you with another fucking guy and I might want to put his dick in my mouth. Like, you don't have to talk about it like that. Like, it doesn't have to be like, But you could start off with like when it's over.

Like, you know, I know we've been doing this like in fantasy. Do you want to try to do this in real life? And if she's like, okay, whatever you say, but listen, I think like we should do this and like have some rules and regulations. And we should really talk this through. So we know that it doesn't sort of, you know, so there's no problems. Because my biggest fear is that we do this and afterwards like we feel weird about it. Right. Like you need to just put that stuff out.

the table because she's going to be like totally i feel the same way like you know and then the two of you could work together to figure out how you could get around that stuff or maybe you guys will figure that you know what it's too risky you both don't know how you'll feel if this is played out in real life so you're just going to keep it to the fantasy you're just going to roll play for the to the hundredth power maybe she'll get into webcaming with people and she'll get into emailing with you and maybe you could bring her along that way i don't know but you know but you know I think you have to just start a conversation with her after. You have to.

Exactly. So, I mean, like, I wouldn't even care. You know, I think I mentioned an email to the point of where she doesn't necessarily have to get fucked. But if I saw her, you know, just blowing another guy or just jerking another guy off while we were fucking like that would, you know. Well, that's a good place to start. That would be enough.

And then it's actually guys that I've actually spoken to when we were having this, you know, these, you know, phone sex shacks. that are local that I've actually said, listen, you know, if we're going out, you know, I can, we can act like you're a random stranger, you know, even though me and you know what's going on. But there is always a chance my wife isn't into it and you came out for nothing, you know, like in sort of set up. Right, you could set it up. Right. You could set it up like it's a random thing once you know that she's into it. You have already it all set up, right? So like you were in the perfect position. You just have to start talking to her. Like it's like I mean what are you

Is like what is your biggest fear? Why do you think? Because I don't know you right. I know you for 45 minutes right. I think it's because you think a lot. You think things through a lot. You don't sort of like you know you're more like I said that passive person that is afraid of confrontation.

You know so you're not the type to sort of maybe. Is she more aggressive than you? No. No. So you're both. This is why you're stuck in this cycle. Yeah. There's just certain areas where I'm, you know, I'm pretty, I'm pretty passive.

But for the most part, I'm, you know, I'm a very, I would say alpha male because not necessarily what I always, you need to be the alpha in this situation. I know, I know. Because she's the sub, right? She's the sub. You can't expect her to change roles, right? But it just really seems like she's like ready. And like I said, I mean, she's probably not ready to get gang bing by five people.

Yeah. But where you have it set up to start, which is like a guy just getting a hand. job from her, you know, or something like that. That's like a great place to start. You already have the guy set up, right? You just have to have the conversation with her. Maybe, I mean, you can bring it up next time you're role playing. But the problem with you guys is everything that goes down when you're kind of slightly

drunk or really horny, like only sort of happens in that bubble, right? And then afterwards it's not sort of discussed. This has to be discussed when you're not in that place, especially because of your fears of like what's going to happen. You know, like that stuff has to be talked out. It just has to. The people that are successful at swinging and doing this stuff are people that really have very good communication.

That is one of the most important things. There's no, and I'm sure you and your girl have been together forever. There's no way you guys don't have good communication, right? You have, you must. You're probably each other's best friend, right? You just have to start communicating about this.

And once you did and you're cool with that, you guys could come to a place where you establish like, how it's going to go down. But that, to be successful and to have it not go horribly wrong, right? It's like you need to have those conversations before you go and do it. And that's where that's the only thing that you guys don't have. And like I have to say, most people out there that are listening, like, and I've had a lot of guys on this podcast that are like, wish they could get their wife as into it as yours. Like you're already, you have all the, like, it's sort of like backwards what you have, you know? You already.

have the like she's already done stuff she's already role played that's like what i've advised other guys to start with you know you already have the okay with all of that stuff all you have to do is say hey let's let's do this in real life how do you feel about it and i think maybe so that you know it goes down the right way we should talk about it beforehand you know what i mean and i think she'll be cool with that but you have everything else you're just like a big okay sign like all Like it's like a green light. All systems are fine. I don't know what the fuck your problem is.

Yeah, I know. I got to just step it up. Excuse me? Not step it up. You need to talk it out. Like you need, it's like you literally need to say the first sentence like you really do. And I suggest it should be after like you're done. Right.

Like, okay. So after you guys have this role play and you're done, right? Like do you go take a shower or washout? Like what happens? happens like right afterwards. Where do you go? Like like like because there's no conversation about it because that that is when you could kind of talk about it maybe right or maybe you could talk about it way before like when

you guys are getting turned on or you could say like like while you're like getting horny and revved up for it. You could be like let's do this but like let's do this in real life and she'll be like okay. And so then when you're done right instead of just like rolling over not saying anything, you should maybe say like do you think like we could. do this. I don't know. Sometimes it's hard because it's like I get the whole thing of being like horny. It's like being drunk. I always say that. Right. It's like, you know, when you're in the

middle of it, you want to do everything. And then when it's over, you're just like it's the last thing you want to think about. It's like food. Right. Like when you're hungry, you want to eat everything. But when you're not hungry, you don't want to smell delicious food. It smells gross. Right. Like so like, so I don't know when the right time, maybe not the right time to bring up like when we're going to do this in real life is like right afterwards. Maybe that's not. But maybe it's, before, right, while you're getting revved up. And then maybe instead of like going to town with each other and going into that fantasy and role playing, maybe have that conversation and get something set up.

Do you know what I mean? And then go with the role play. And then the next time, talk more, you know, and start having that conversation. Yeah, that sounds like a plan. I'm definitely trying to try that one. Because normally, like I said, once we're done, it's usually like late at night, we send it, we clean up and we just, you know, talk. for like a couple minutes and we go to sleep.

Yeah, and I think that that would be the last time she'd be like the last, that's not the right time. I think it's before. And I think talking about it would make her horny. It would make you horny because it's like the talking about it really actually happening. But then what has to happen? And I think you're okay to do that. But this is where I think you have like a mental block and this is the hardest part is that at some point, at some time, like there needs to be like a computer.

Like, you know, you need to like set an act. actual thing like okay let's go out let's do this on Friday night you know what I mean and and she has to okay like you have to bring that up too and you have to go through with that and because you already have the guy like you can be doing this

next week you really can what but I think you're afraid I think you're you don't know and that's why I like I forget about what I told you before that needs to happen is like you guys need to have those conversations about rules

and regulations and boundaries. Yeah, I'm definitely more afraid of shedding something up because, again, I think of all the worst possible things. Like this person's flipping up and, you know, oh, we met or like, oh, this website, whatever may be. And then her being like, what are you talking about? You know, like, and then

her finding out that I've been doing this. You know what I mean? I feel like I'm putting a lot of trust in someone. Uh-huh. I'm almost of the mindset where I think I would just be totally followed it is, you know, we went to, you know, one of those, you know, I don't know, video places and there was in a booth and, you know, all of a sudden through the glory hole, you know, Dick was there and she started, you know, sucking it. Did you ever bring that up to her? We actually did that in Germany, but nobody was on the other side.

Oh, my God. Just your guy's luck. And, well, she didn't, she doesn't really, didn't really know what it was, you know, that it was even there. You know, we went in the booth and she wanted to have sex and we were having sex and there was just, you know, there was the whole there, but she didn't really understand it. Right, but you knew and you were hoping maybe something came through. So yeah, you could bring that up and you could fantasize about that or what you could do because I get that you're being nervous about one of the your good old faithfuls coming through because it might get slip up and then she's going to know you had this whole lying thing going on behind her back.

But what you could do is you could say I could set it up like there's websites out there. like I could go and try and find a guy online and then you could just and then it's not going to be that hard. You don't have to go with one of the guys that you've been talking to. What you could just do is go on there and find somebody new. Do you know what I mean? Because you already know how to work that site, right? However you work it. So I would say if you want to be really safe, don't go with one of the guys that you've been chatting with.

Just find a new one. Yeah. Right? Good point. Yeah. That or the glit. the glory whole thing. I don't know.

As a woman, like I'd be a little bit more freaked out by just like some day, but maybe not. I don't know because it's not attached to a face and a body. You don't know, you know,

you'd have to talk to her about that. But what I don't understand is this mental block of like having real, like these open conversations with somebody that you've known for so long that you're so close with that you let your freak flag fly with in every possible way.

Yet there's this like sort of thing that you guys can't talk about. It doesn't make sense to me. No, it really doesn't because even if she said no, I mean, it's not like she has to say no. You're the problem here. She's not going to say no. She's into it, okay? It's so obvious.

Listen, it's so obvious. She sent you out from a hotel room to go get a guy and you failed, okay? She has gone to a glory hole. You think she didn't know what was going on in there? I mean, come on. Like she's let you fuck her on the street waiting for people to come. She had a three somewhere. She watched a girl blow you and she had the girl eat her out.

Like come on. Your, I really think it's you. And I think, you know, this little thing of you, it's maybe you're coming to terms with like all of this for yourself. And maybe that's what you haven't come to terms with yet. Like, you know, and maybe you're afraid of how you'll feel in the situation. Maybe you'll want a dick in your mouth and what does that mean to you? You know what I mean? Like maybe that's too much.

And so I think it's a little bit about you and your own feelings than her. I think she's down. I think you have the issues. You have the first person I've ever spoken to about. So, you know, it's definitely good to hear it. And, you know, it's, you know, we're definitely going to take your advice. And listen to this. This is what's going to, yeah, no.

And what's really going to be great about you talking to me about it. And I always feel like, like, if somebody's like, ready to call up a total stranger, right, and sort of talk about it for the first time, that definitely means that it definitely says something, right? That you're really, you are wanting to sort of push through this block that you've had for so long, right? So you are, that is something different and that is like movement, right? And so maybe you're really ready, right?

And what's really going to help you is when you hear this story as a third person. Because like, to me, it's so obvious. She's like down. And I think maybe it's going to be more obvious to you because I'm going to change your voice, right? You're going to hear your story like as a third person looking out, right? And you might hear it very different. And it might make you realize what everybody else realizes, which is that she will be okay, that maybe you're the one with the problems. But you need, I really think that if you talk it over with her, you need her on board.

I think you're struggling with this alone. I think maybe your own issues with you being by might be more hardcore than anything she's dealing with. And I think that's stuff that, you know, maybe you need to come to terms with. But I think if you start talking to her instead of me, it's going to really help you because that's your best friend. That's someone that you've been with for so long. That's somebody that you know.

And if you just start the conversation going and get this, you'll be okay and you guys could actually do stuff. But I think you have to resolve stuff within yourself first. And then, you know what I mean? But I think calling and talking about it was great for you. I think listening to this, okay? And there's a Reddit page that people talk about episodes on there. Like, go there afterwards and see if anybody chimes in and what they say. Because I think you're going to get a lot of people that are going to be like, yeah, dude, Kathy's right. Like your girl's down. You could have this going on. You just need to step up and start talking about it. But like I said, I think, you might need to come to terms with stuff first within yourself. I think you might just need to

just speak up for yourself. I don't know, but you have to have these conversations with her outside. But I think it's, I don't think the questions is whether, or the, you know, the big fear is whether how she's going to feel about it. I think it's more with yourself and with you. But I think you're going to get maybe some clarity by listening to this. Like I said as a third person. You're going to say, you know, I know you. No, I know. will. And what I want is like, I want to know how you feel about this when you hear. I want to know, you know, if you have conversations, you know what, what sort of happens from this. I think you're ready to do something or else you wouldn't be calling into my show. I do think that that says something.

You know, and I want to know when this actually goes down in real life and like how, what the catalyst is and how you change it. But you got to change it up. I think calling in was changing it up. But I think the next step will be you really talking about this, you know, with her in real life. And then getting, like I said, those rules and regulations and get the conversation between the two of you instead of you with the guys online and me. And you're just like dancing around the, you know, the scenario when you need to be talking to her. She's ready. Yeah. I think she must be like fucking frustrated.

I don't know. I wonder if I talk to her, you know, and she was totally honest. Like maybe she's, you know, but she might have those same fears too. I get like, I get sort of the, especially because you've kept it as a sort of fantasy for so long, the unknown of how it would play out in real life. Like I get the fear. And that's why I just think you guys need to talk and you might need to talk about it for a while before you do it in real life.

But I think that once you do that, I think you guys will be fine. you have like those double-digit years together right you've been with each other a long time you have a solid relic you have all the things that you need to be successful at this except the one thing that other people have that you don't have that is very key actually you don't which is communication you have to really communicate better with each other so you need to add that to the mix and then I really think you guys will be able to do it and be successful but that conversation needs to happen ASAP so that you guys could be doing this two months from now, and then you could call me up, and we could talk about it. That first experience. It's going to happen. You want me tell you have to, so then you do it? I mean, is that the type person you are?

Like, you need someone to fucking tell you have a deadline. I don't know how to mind fuck you. No, no, because the next opportunity I can, I definitely will. You said you're an alpha male. B-1, okay? B-1. I mean, the worst I could happen, like you said, even if she was doing this whole thing to appease me,

which I don't see you is, you know, the worst. you know the worst thing that can happen is it doesn't happen and it is what it is but like you said I just got to do it yeah and you don't have to you I could just say do you are you want to do this in real life or do you think it's better to keep it as a fantasy like you know why don't you flip it why don't you be the one that's like whatever you want you know she's saying whatever you want but like you could just start the conversation like that just you could tiptoe into it without looking like a like a like a like a some guy that's like dying for her to get fucked by other guys like you could kind of say like hey like this is like a really. hot thing. Like, and I'm just like, like, do you want to maybe try it again in real life? Or do you think it's better to just role play? Like, what do you want?

You know, you could sort of bring it up like that. But you have to bring it up. Okay? Please. I will. Enough. Thank you very much.

Do it. Just fucking do it. For her sake. And then I can't wait to hear what happens. But keep me posted. Oh, God. That'll be a great phone call. I will.

Totally. Thank you so much for the opportunity. All right. Good luck, Mitch. Keep me posted. I'll talk to you soon. I want to have to be right by. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available,

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