Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 300 - Tommy has Always Been into Pantyhose

Episode Date: September 9, 2019

Tommy calls in to discuss his pantyhose fetish and share all his hot pantyhose stories. When did he realize he was into pantyhose? How far has he taken his pantyhose fetish? Has it been easy for him t...o find a partner who accepts his fetish? Tune in to find out plus hear all about his hot experiences when he was very young with his teacher and how it shaped his interest in hose, what went down on the porch with his much older neighbor, what he use to do with his best friends mom's panties while no one was around and what went down when he massaged his friend's moms legs and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
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Starting point is 00:01:35 Gmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on being the show. Or if you want advice, I really do like to help people. So if you have any kind of problem, even if it's just a regular problem, and you want to come on the show and get some unprofessional advice, send me the email at Strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Today I'm on a guy named Tommy, who wrote in, and I'm a panty hose guy too, and I've listened to your pantyho's stories.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I think mine is better than theirs or something like that. And so we talk about that. We talk about his Pantyho stories. He had a lot of like, I mean, other podcasts I've dug more into like sort of the psychology behind it and all that stuff. With this guy, we talk more about his stories of like the shit that he did with when he got into Pantyho's. His stories when he was younger are pretty interesting because there's like a story about
Starting point is 00:02:25 his neighbor, a story about his friend's mom, a story about his team. nature, shit like that. He goes into details about like these little hot scenarios that he encountered when he was younger and first getting into Pannios. And then we talk all about like his relationships now with women and
Starting point is 00:02:43 how he sort of goes about finding girls that are into it now. And that's a whole other part of the podcast. But there's so much in between as well. Anyway, so you'll have to just listen to it all. It'll be in the intro too. I mean, it'll be in the description. I'll write about everything that we talked about.
Starting point is 00:03:04 But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Tommy. How are you? I'm good. How about you? I'm good. You're good. You're good. Yeah, well, listen to this.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I mean, what I know about you is that you were like, well, I know about me. I know. You made like a sort of a claim that you're going to have to back up, okay? Because you were like, oh, I'm a panty hose guy and I've listened to all your pantyos people, but their stories are like boring. Like, my story is. much better. You kind of said that, right, to me? So, like, I'm really interested in hearing your interesting. Like, you think your Panyho's story is more interesting, right? I don't know
Starting point is 00:03:39 the details of it. I mean, I guess it's a little bit more into, I go further into it, right? So I think everybody's story that I heard is kind of like the same. You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of the same. And I'm like, all right, well, I'm like, well, it's not really, it's not, it's, I mean, I guess they're good, right? but I don't know if it's like really, it's intriguing. I think they all kind of sound the same. Okay. No, so let's get into yours.
Starting point is 00:04:04 What I find interesting and what I think. Well, first of all, Panyhose is like so popular. So many people find my show because they're into Pantyhose too. So this is a very common thing, right? I like to talk to everybody, even if it's the 10 Pantyhose guys, because I think everybody's story is going to be a little bit different. And I learned something kind of new from every person that comes on, every Panyhose guy. I think some of them are slightly similar,
Starting point is 00:04:27 but most people have a unique story, right? Because they're their own person. So like what's your story? How old are you? How into pantyhoes are you? So I'm 34. Right? So I've been into it for,
Starting point is 00:04:45 like as long as I can remember. I'd say I'd probably, I'd say probably when I started in puberty. Like I was like, oh shit, this is my thing. Right? So, right. But I, I can remember back when I started liking them, like when he started getting my attention, right? And going back to what you said, like, oh, yeah, Panyos is common.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I think it's, it's so common, but it's not as common as people make it seem, right? I think it's very common. But it's not as common as people make it seem. So it's still like, meaning it's undercover. Yeah, no, totally. I never realized it was so common until I started doing my show. And I could look at the stats, right, of like my podcast. my downloads I get.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And it's crazy. Give me your top, give me your top, like, top three downloads. Well, pantyhose. Fuck, that's crazy. Cuckolding stuff is hardcore. And anything to do with a female. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You know, any woman that's calling my show, most of the time they're calling my show to talk about SEX. So it's like women that are talking about, like, the things that they do. So it's like women, pantyhose and cockolding stuff is like the, the top downloaded stuff. But Panty Hose is up there and I get so many people, besides just people, the downloads, I get so many people writing in about those episodes
Starting point is 00:06:05 because like I do believe, like I said, I didn't know that it was so common, but it is, but nobody talks about it. I mean, you think it's like hidden in ads and stuff like that, right? It is. I know it is. We'll get into that later, but it isn't television and TV. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:20 But so when you're little, how do you know that you like Panty Hose? Do you go stealing them? Do you see him on your mom? Like, how do you figure that out? Here's what's crazy. I can go back. So mine started and this is, fuck, I had it been maybe, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Like maybe I can go back to this. I had this one memory when it first started, like probably six or something like that. I don't know. I was super young. Yeah. But I can remember being like in school and remember my teacher like dangling her, her shoe. Like I remember like it was yesterday. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Right? I'm like, fuck. I didn't know what was going on. I just remember her dangling her shoe, me walking up and like trying to play with her shoe, right? I swear to God, and she was wearing panty house. Then, I mean, like still to this day, it's like my first memory of like, oh, okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And listen, I think that we remember things like that because they made an imprint, like they were impactful on some level, right? That's why we remember those things, right? Like it must have been a very, you had a strong reaction to it. That's why you remembered it, right? Don't you think? Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So then as I grew older, you know, got into like middle school and like, you know, started at puberty. It was like, okay, this is my thing. I remember I used to have my teachers like 15 sixth grade and like I would literally stare like, you know, back in the, I mean, even like back in the 90s like, yes, like I would stare at their legs. and see if they were dangle and like my both teachers my fifth and six straight were pretty young so at the time they were like 20s yeah right and you know early 90s you know you're still i mean panneos is not fully out of style so you're still kind of wearing it right so i'm like fuck i remember you so like peeping for like an upskirt right i'm like i wonder if i can turn my head at this angle especially like when she got up and reading from the class I would like, man, I wonder if I can like get up and what would you do like drop your pen and then like just all type of, you know, everything, right?
Starting point is 00:08:31 See if I can just catch a like a. Any teachers out there listening. Beware. Oh, this is what these little boys are doing. You know, seriously, right? So I have some stories too. So I remember like my I used to have this. And so I used to have this substitute teacher.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So my teacher was pregnant and she would wear pantingles all the time. But my sub. So we had a substitute teacher for months because obviously, She was on maternity leave, right? She would literally wear the shortest skirts and nude hose almost every day. She's probably the same age. And I would, God, I would go up to her desk all the time just for something. And I would, as she's helping me with my paperwork, I would always stand back.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And I would look down on another desk and see if she's dangling. She would always dangle her heels or shoes would pop off or she would take her heels off. And I would see her panheels feet and I would pop the spot. smallest 12 year old boner you can imagine right oh my god shit right and i remember i mean it was we were going to a lot i remember one time we went to a library and uh we were in a library and we're doing something and i remember it was like a they were playing a movie and i remember just kind of dropping my pencil right the number one excuse and it's reaching down and i remember looking under the desk and her legs were spread and i saw her pantyel's crotch just right there in my face i'm
Starting point is 00:09:53 Holy shit. Right. Right. And it's crazy. I would do like some perverted things. I don't think I'm, I'm not pervert, but growing up,
Starting point is 00:10:02 I would do perverted things just for pan heels, right? Right. Well, I guess you're like at that age as like, boy, like you're just all that testosterone is coming in, right?
Starting point is 00:10:11 And you're just like, you know, so I think there's like crazy, like horny and you don't know what to do with it, right? Maybe. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And so at this point, like I'm not really, you know, you're at 12, 12 years old and stuff you're not really you're not really I don't have porn right yeah you're porn and you're like porn was it wasn't big on the internet back then and you had like your your your set tape or your your VHS yeah VHS tapes and so um I didn't really get into that it's like middle school so you're just trying to find like something like something to kind
Starting point is 00:10:47 of like get my fix and I remember one time so when my teacher came back from having her baby, right? I mean, I was a star athlete my entire life, right? Played college football, everything. So, I mean, I was always this a nice, popular kid, even from I can remember. So my teacher loved me, right? She comes back. And she had to, I mean, I would always, like, stare and I knew for a fact at some point
Starting point is 00:11:14 she was, like, kind of catch me, right? I remember one time we were literally on a field trip going somewhere. and she was wearing, I remember like it was yesterday, she's wearing this brown skirt, white, white blouse, and she had these kind of like black flats, and she's wearing pantyhills. And I just kept, I was in, I was literally at the front of the bus. And she was a seat, like diagonal from like, like two seats behind. And I kept looking back.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Finally, she just looked back, and I remember she caught me one time, looking at her, and she asked me, she was like, you know, and Tommy, would you like me to, you know, would you like me to put my feet in your lap, and, you know, would you give me a foot rub? I swear to God. On the bus in front of everyone? On the bus. And I think she was just, I mean, she was a really like, she's like, oh, come here,
Starting point is 00:12:02 give me a hug. And hey, you know, somebody can rub my shoulder, like, kind of like, even with everybody, right? And so, and I'm like, what? Like, I didn't really know how to take it. I was like, oh, no, I don't want one. Like, you know what I mean? Like, kind of play it off.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I'm like, fuck. And my, in the back of my mom, I'm thinking like, yes, I would love for you to put those penny holes feet on my lap right now. Yeah, you're drooling. You were like drooling over it. Yeah. But it gets, so it's crazy. So on my neighborhood, Mike,
Starting point is 00:12:32 I got a few good stories. So I had my neighbors who live next door. They were two females. And they were probably, I don't know, maybe early 30s at the time. Well, one, she would wear pantyhills literally, all the time. She'd come home about five o'clock. She sat on her porch. She smoked a cigarette,
Starting point is 00:12:56 right? Every fucking day. Um, my, one of my good friends down the street, his mother would wear pantyhills all the time, right? And then my other, one of my other friends would, his mom wore pantyhills. She was a single mother. So she'd wear pantyhills. Um, so I remember like, this is like, oh, God, I remember I would, I would sit and wait. When I get up, when I got home school, I would, outside and play basketball or do something like just kind of be outside and I remember when the first Andrea would pull up right next door and I remember every time she pulled up she would stay on the porch she would smoke she would talk I'm like you know what fuck I mean I got to make my way over there right I mean I'm making my way over there to talk to have small talk I'm like fuck I want to I got to do
Starting point is 00:13:44 something because at this point I've never jacked off right so it's just like I'm hitting puberty and I'm like, fuck, like he's just building up. Mm-hmm. I remember one day she comes home and she's sitting on the porch. We talk like normal and I just sit next door. Wait, how old are you again? God, I'm like probably 13 at this point. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:04 13. But I was like growing up, I was like, you know, I was a pretty good size kid. Like I was an athlete. So I was like a pretty. Right. You were like a little tiny little 13, right? You were like a little bit more manly maybe than the average. 13 year old okay right so I remember going over there and we're talking and I was like oh yeah
Starting point is 00:14:25 what's your day you know it was good you know it was a long day by a blah and I was saying you know what I was like he's I used to I think I started with this I was like well you know I give my mom backrobes backrobes every time you come home every time she comes home after a long day I was like you know I can give you like a foot massage you like I said back I swear the guy you got that from the teacher on the Fas. Yeah. So yeah, right? So she was like, really, I was like, yeah. So I remember she took a shoes off. She's wearing flats and boom. I'm literally rubbing her pantyho's feet on her front porch. Right. This is like 5.30. It's like freaking still daylight fucking people can walk up and see. Right. But the whole thing though about this whole scenario, right, is like me and you and everyone listening knows that like you're getting a fucking Woody while this is happening. But. Before I did my podcast, and if I was walking by and saw that, like most people wouldn't think anything of that because nobody knows people don't aren't putting to get like two and two together about like this panty hose fetish and she's wearing them and that's why you're doing them. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Right. Like for you, it's like an X rated scenario because you're doing this for sexual pleasure. But I don't think anybody else would have sort of taken that from that scene, you know? right so I'm just like you know I'm I have the I'm like rubbing her feet and just talking and I'm like I'll probably do that for consistently for about a couple weeks right didn't you last long oh you would just go over all the time and rubber just go over all time and then and then I started this was kind of more of like the summertime then like once like I started I had football practice and homework they just kind of died out um so then then And they moved like a year, like later. My buddy's friends, my buddy's friends down the street, their mom would wear panty hells literally every day, right? Two of my friends.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So I had, let's call him, let's call him Jacob. Right? Yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever. So they were actually brothers. So Joe and Jacob, their mom would wear panty heels all the time, right? And so I'd go, and they were like one of my best friends on the street. So I would go down there and I would.
Starting point is 00:16:45 just see her after a long day would be in the house playing video games and like boom whatever i was older house all the time i remember on the weekends i never caught her in action right but i remember on the weekends like i'd go over their house especially if my parents like left me there and they and they were babysitting me throughout the day or just watching me uh his dad like they would go outside they had a big trampoline the back of the house so they would go and jump on the trampoline and stuff and i would stay in a house and play video games they felt comfortable enough to leave me in the house and we're like brothers but I would go in their mom's room and I would pull her pantos out and I would literally
Starting point is 00:17:23 jack off and then yeah that's when it's started for you right like I'm like I'm like this I would hold them I'm smelling them I'd do whatever and I would just jack off in her in her house in their house it's crazy where were that where were you jerk off in her room did you take him in her room I would I would literally go in her room like they would be outside like yeah and i'd be i'd stay in a house and play video games whatever and i would go in and i would that was so dangerous oh you i'd no fucking way i would do that right now right no but if you really think about it like oh my god but was that part of it like with the thrill like of getting caught a part of it or no it was really probably just the panty no it's why you really fucking want it yeah
Starting point is 00:18:07 yeah i did like i said i'm gonna put them on i just took it oh my god if you got caught oh oh oh it was oh it was that would have been i mean if Imagine that going out through high school, like the fucking jock football player with that caught jerking off to my mom's pantos. You would have been the biggest weirdo in high school. Exactly. Right. So I fucking. So I remember I literally like there was twice where I came like in her pantos.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Like I literally can't and put them back in there. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, I'm 13 years old. I know what the fuck to do. I fucking put the pantos back in. You know, and so, yeah, so then. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I imagine what she thought when she found them. She probably, you know what? No, she thought Jacob or Jay was into her fucking kids. That's who she blamed it on in her head. She thought, oh, my God, one of my kids is jerking off of my pantos. Who, you know, what? They probably, I don't know. I think they probably were told me they get in trouble, but who knows?
Starting point is 00:19:08 She wouldn't have said anything. She was probably horrified. You know how parents are that generation. They just shove it under the rug. into it. Maybe her husband was into it. Oh yeah. She was like, yeah, for sure though. She was like, what is this jizz all over my panty?
Starting point is 00:19:22 Exactly. It's gross. So this is like the best story, right? This is like my introduction to like the whole like, okay, well, fuck I got this now. Right. Yeah. So another friend, let's call him, let's call him Randy. Yeah. So another friend, Randy, she lived like two houses up, right?
Starting point is 00:19:40 Single mom, freaking blonde-headed, smoking high. Smoking hot. she'd come home around like 6.6.30, right? And I'd fucking, I mean, we'd be at the house. We'd go up there. Obviously, we'd see her. I'd be an excuse to go up there to her knock on the door whenever I saw her come. Exactly. Right? But she would wear panty house every day too. So, but Randy was a good friend of mine. But he was fucking, I mean, he was cool, but I didn't really like him that much. But you liked his mom? So, yes. So I remember one time I go up and like all the parents love me because I was a fucking respectful kid. Like I was like, all right, boom.
Starting point is 00:20:20 My parents didn't play. Yes, ma'am. No. Like all that shit. Yeah. So. And I would cut their grass too. Like I had to fucking cut like 20 yards growing up.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Right? Not for pain. I was just to fucking do it. Yeah. So I fucking one time she gets home. And I go there and then like we're all in the house and then Randy and a few other kids like they fucking leave so i'm in the house literally i'm in the kitchen i'm in the kitchen i'm in the mother and she has a white blouse and a fucking checkered um skirt right i was like fuck like i'm just
Starting point is 00:20:54 thinking like this is freaking nuts and i use the same line i use with uh andria my next-door neighbor i was like hey i was like you know mrs jay i was like you had a long day i was like you know hey i can you know i can give you a foot massage if you want to you say oh you don't have to And I was like, yeah, you know, it's cool. So she's like, all right. So I literally, she's sitting in the kitchen table. I sit on the kitchen floor. She lets me slide her heels off.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I literally slide her heels off. And I'm just rubbing her leg or rubbing her feet, right? Boom. I probably do that for about 30 minutes. We're talking. Boom. There you go. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I mean, fuck, I was, I went home and I jacked off so much. At this point, I was like 14. Right. So I'm like fully jacking off. I come down like about a week or so later I catch her and same thing, same scenario I go up can Rainey play outside
Starting point is 00:21:51 and so Randy's like yeah yeah and he walks, he goes like fucking a couple blocks over boom, I go inside so I go inside and she's on the phone having a glass of wine, she's talking to her girlfriend and so I go inside and I'm sitting on the couch and she's like oh hey how are you doing Tommy blah blah
Starting point is 00:22:10 how's things, how's school. I'm like, it's good, you know. Start on the football team, blah, blah, blah. And I go up to her. I'm like, well, you know, you've had a long day. I was like, I can rub your feet again. She's like, okay, at this point she has her heels off. So she's sitting on the couch.
Starting point is 00:22:26 She's laying like long away. So her legs are like kind of hanging off the end on the couch. So I'm sitting there. I'm on my knees. I'm like rubbing her, rubbing her feet. Right? And I started rubbing her feet. And I started like, at this point I get ballsy.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So I'm like, fucking is rubbing my way up. leg. Oh, my God. Listen, I'm rubbing her like, I started like, I'm sorry like, she had a scurble. It was kind of fairly long, probably like ended at her caps, right? So I started rubbing my way up her legs. And she's like, she's on the phone. She's like, talking to whoever she was talking.
Starting point is 00:22:59 She was like, oh, my God. She's like, Tom is giving me the best massage and I can't, you know, it feels so good. And blah, blah, blah. She's like, hey, let me call you back. So she gets up the phone with her friends. I'm still rubbing her legs. At this point, I have the biggest boner I can imagine, right? I'm hiking her skirt up each and every time.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I start from her feet that I get to her inner thighs, right? So at this point, again, I'm 14. What grade is that? What grade is 14? Like 7th. Okay. So I'm 14. Mrs. Jay is like, she's probably, gosh, she had to be in her mid,
Starting point is 00:23:40 30s. Okay. Mid to late 30s. So I'm like literally rubbing her rubbing her legs like freaking slowly like just going back from her feet and her legs. I'm getting like the scent of just
Starting point is 00:23:50 a lot of Panangos guys, especially Panangos foot guys. They love that scent of like just right. So I'm rubbing her legs and just fucking working my way up. I'm like literally at her inner thigh and her skirt is like basically all the way hyped up.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I look down and I can basically see her fucking pussy push you through her pantos, right? Now let me ask you this. Are you guys talking while this is happening? We're just, yeah, like, shooting the shit. We're shooting the shit, and then she just kind of gets, she's having a glass of wine. I don't know, I don't know how many she's had, but it's like one of those big fucking ones, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So she's like, talking, and she's just like she stops. And at this point, like, I'm so hard. And I'm just going further. And, like, I'm probably inches away from basically touching her. Yeah. And she's like, out of nowhere she's scarred. And she's like, okay. So this is probably like 30, 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:24:41 She's like, well, she's like, let's, you know, it's getting late. You know, you didn't go home. I'm like, fuck, I can't get up now. I have a fucking big-ass boner, right? So I fucking, she's like, all right, give me a hug, goodbye. I'm like, shit, well, fuck it. So I get up, I get up, I'm at some gym shorts on. That was just like sticking out.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And like, I see her glance down, but she didn't say anything. So she gives me a hug, she gives me a kiss on my neck and boom, I go home. And I'm fucking. On your neck? Yeah, she's kissing me on my neck, boom, like that. That's interesting. Right. And I go home and I fucking whack off so much.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I mean, I came everywhere. She probably did too. Oh, my God, listen. So let's fast forward to this is, I mean, never happened again. After that, never happened again. Oh, okay, that's as far as that one went with that mom. That's as far as it went never happened again. I mean, we stayed close.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I mean, here's a funny story about that. She had a daughter, right? So her daughter, who was like a couple years younger than me. I ended up one time years later, fucking, her daughter was beautiful. Yeah. And I remember as we got older, I was probably like 17 in high school. I remember her daughter sit on a pair of her mom's stockings one time. Actually, they moved.
Starting point is 00:26:03 They moved like a few blocks away. She didn't have slipped on a pair of her mom's stockings one time. She didn't have given me a foot job. Oh, really? Okay. Yes, which was wild. Of course, I never told her, like, it was crazy. I don't even know how I got the ball to tell her.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I was like, oh, yes, you should put on your mom's stockings. That looks kind of hot. And she did it, and she remember she was just rubbing, like my, she was, we were at the dinner table, she was rubbing my, my, you know, my dick with her foot. And I remember I just pulling it out and boom. You can. I was like, holy shit. And I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And I didn't have six at that point. Right. Well, that's why it was so easy to come for that. Yeah. So anyways, but later on, this is like probably, this is probably maybe, I'd say this is like 10 years ago. 9. It's my, probably about six or seven years ago.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You know, she's, she's messaging me on Facebook. Okay, you know how you've been? Like, we still kept in contact with her whole family. The daughter or the mother? No, the mother. Okay. So she got remarried, remarried and we're just talking. And she's like, man.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And she's like, you're developing such a, you know, a handsome looking man, blah, blah. I'm like, oh, yeah. And at this point, I just went for it. I was like, you know what? I was like, I always, like, had to crush you little. I was like, you remember that time I came over and I rubbed your, you know, I was rubbing your legs and your feet. And I was like, I honestly got, it turned me on so much.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I mean, I'm just going for at this point. I'm a grown man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she was like, I was like, you have to tell me what was going on through your mind. And she, I mean, I wish that still happened. I probably still.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I don't even know I've stopped the message or not. But she was like, honestly, she was like, I was so wet. She was like, and you were rubbing my legs. You kept moving further and further. And she was like, I wanted to let you rub my pussy. She was like, but I realized you were so young. And I was like, what am I doing? But she was like, I was soaking wet.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And she's like, I said, man, I got up. I had the fucking biggest boner. Yeah. She was like, yeah, I noticed. She's like, that's why I gave you a kiss on your neck. I was like, holy shit. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So, yeah, it's, uh, yeah. Now, do you guys live close to each other? Like, did that ever go any farther? Like, did you ever? No, no. Right. I mean, at, at that point, as she was too old. I mean, I mean, I mean, she wasn't too old, but I was, I mean, I wasn't, I mean, I wasn't, I mean, it was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was super gorgeous when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And it was, I was, I was like, I want to. my friend's mother you know what you kind of want to do it now is like I mean you know six about seven years ago I didn't have the urge to really do it now I was like I can get kind of where I wanted to
Starting point is 00:28:48 with Penny Onges right but it still turned I mean I think I came to that message because it was such a turn on just to hear her and say that yeah I could imagine I'm sure for her too but that so that conversation with her just like sort of ended and you never talked to her again about it um no
Starting point is 00:29:04 I mean we talk sometimes I mean, she, I mean, she likes pictures of mine on Facebook. Yeah. Certain things, but we never get to that point. Yeah, that's interesting, though, that she admitted it and you admitted it. I guess because you're older, it was, like, safe for her to say. But I had the feeling that she, didn't you? The fact that she kissed your neck, that was the clue that she was, like, into it.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Exactly. I was expecting, like, a kiss on my cheek. Yeah, that's completely inappropriate. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. Listen, her skirt was so far. I mean, it was, like, I can literally, I looked down and saw her, I saw her, I saw her, her, her pantyose crotch.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Like, I basically could see her pussy. Right. Yeah. She, I mean, the fact that she let you go that far was the clue, of course, right? Yeah, that's crazy. Exactly. What questions do you have for me? I have more stories, but I want to know, like.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Well, no. Well, let me just ask you because, like, I, like, listen, I think a lot of Pantios people are going to love these stories, right? Because they're just, like, hot Pantio's stories where, and it's like, and it's like, I think most people that have this fetish, it starts when they're really young, right? And they have these kind of scenarios. You, like, you, you know, you got to go pretty far with it. Like, you got to do the thing with your neighbor. And, you know, and like I said, I think some people not knowing about the fetish or not having it might think that these things sound so like sort of G-rated, right? But because it's such a turn on, the fact that you're
Starting point is 00:30:29 rubbing that lady's feet every day and you're super young, you know, like those are like, that's probably really hot to other pan heels people, right? Because that's the ultimate thing, right? It's the same with foot fetish, right? Like, I remember there was a guy that I wanted on my show. He was a kind of famous person that I knew through people because I used to work with famous people. And like, he was really into feet. He had a foot fetish.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And he was like, send me a picture of your feet right now. And I was like sending. And then I started to realize, like, if he was asking me to send him pictures of my tits, like I wouldn't be sending that. Like, you know, there's no difference between feet and tits. if someone's into feet as a, right? Yeah, so I'm like, I'm not gonna fucking send him any more pictures of my feet.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Like, that's no different. You know what I mean? Like, it's inappropriate. I mean, as it is my guy. It's one thing. But if I'm trying to get one on my show, there's no reason for that. Because like I said,
Starting point is 00:31:19 it doesn't matter that it's feet. If someone's jerking off to them, it's no different than if I'm setting him a pussy shot, right? It's like the same thing. And that's what it is. Panny hose. Like for you, seeing that foot dangling,
Starting point is 00:31:31 like, when you said, and she let me take her shoes off. Like you said it like that is like the hottest thing ever. Whereas like for people that don't have that fetish, like who the fuck cares, right? But for someone that does, and especially because you have that imprint from the foot dangling, right? Like, you know, for you, that is like, you know, gives you an instant boner, right? Like that does it for you.
Starting point is 00:31:56 And that's what does it for everybody, right? I think Pennyho, honestly, be honest you, I think I think Pennyho's, like foot fetish or like kind of the same right kind of coincide together yeah I mean I'm pretty sure you're like yeah well I was thinking that when you said oh she gave me a foot job and like because you know and you have I don't know that it is together for everybody and that's why it's always interesting to talk to different people because I think sometimes the panty house fetish goes a little bit into cross-trusting and sometimes the panty hose fetish goes into a little you know there's different things that I think it could cross over with I think for you it crosses I think you also have a
Starting point is 00:32:33 foot thing too. But see, here's the thing I do, I do. But they have to be a panty hose. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you like I have it's if you, I obviously, you know, I'm in tree by 60 feet, right? Right. But I just don't, I don't, I can't, I mean, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's, if it's not wearing panty hose, I mean, it's not going to do it for you. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. I get it. It's the pantyho. It's a foot in the panty hose. It's a foot panty hose.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's got to be together. And let's get, I want to get back to that whole cross-dressing thing too, right? So a lot of your, a lot of like the guys. Yes, I haven't asked you the question yet though. People say I cut of people off and I just did.
Starting point is 00:33:12 But listen, did you like to wear them yourself? No. Okay. So I think like almost like every collar. This is a common thing like guys like to wear them. Right? Guys who are into them,
Starting point is 00:33:23 I like to wear them. No. But not all of them. Not all of them. My most recent guy, I think, wasn't into it. But a lot of them are. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I'm trying to think which color it was. But so I'm like, yeah, like, it starts with them, it starts with them, like, putting, it starts with them, like, kind of like, putting them on and feel sexy. And I'm like, damn, okay, well, me, I just got off to having, like, I mean, like I said, when I was in my, like, when I went to my friend's house, I think the most I did was, I probably put it around my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, and this came in it almost like a fucking sock you know what you're right right right yeah yeah you
Starting point is 00:34:01 you weren't putting them on you and getting turned on no right so I couldn't I could for me I couldn't I just that doesn't get me and I see it's crazy today because I see like a lot of you see a lot of guys you see a lot of guys who are cross-dressing who are into it which is as that's that's cool right that's what you want to do
Starting point is 00:34:23 boom right but I think there's a lot of guys too I'm going to lead into my whole thing with like the difficulties with having like a panio panio fetish because it's not common. A lot of guys, right, will go to cross-dressers, right? Like, we'll go after cross-dressers because they feel like they can, that's an easy gateway to have somebody wear pantos, right?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't think, like, even like, I'm on a couple forms, right? Like, I'm on like fat life. I just, I just get on that, which is like, I don't know if I like it or not, but it's okay, right? But are you on there to like look at girls and pantyhose or have them send you picks? Like, what are you doing or meet someone that? It's only, because, like, you know, I'm a single father, right? So my ex would wear it all the time for me, but that's not like an easy, it's not an easy thing to tell.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I lead into like the whole pantyho saying. I need for, listen, as a woman, but I don't know. I tend to be very super open-minded and stuff, but I have to tell you, and I've told this to other guys, I think it is an easy thing to tell. I really need you to know that women, the majority of women,
Starting point is 00:35:38 okay, 98% of women would be totally fine with it, especially yours. Yours is like, you don't like to, like, when someone likes to wear them, that maybe is a little bit more of a, a conversation, but like honestly, what you have to explain to somebody, what you like and what your whole thing and everything you just told me, you could let any girl listen to this podcast that you're going to date and they will not be, their idea of you will not be changed because it's not
Starting point is 00:36:11 that big of a deal. And if all a girl has to do to turn you on is put on a pair of panty hose, it's like awesome for that. Well, see, like for me, it's like, it's, so I guess it's, I, I guess it's, I Okay, so, I mean, I wouldn't say it's hard, but it's, it's not as comfortable as telling someone, hey, man, I like fucking big tits or hey, I like big ass, right? No, it's worse, because if you tell a girl that you love big tits and she doesn't have big tits, then she feels self-conscious all the time. If you tell a girl, I love pantyhose, she could go to the store and buy any pantyos she wants. The girls with the small tits can't go get, well, she can get big tits, but it'll cost her 10 grand. So it's a really, it's such a, it's such a, what I'm just trying to say is you don't. realize because it's your sort of thing, right? And you've kept it a secret for so long and you were doing this jerking off in your friend's house and all this stuff. And, you know, you have so many of those memories. Like it's sort of filed in your mind as something very, very naughty, right? Which is not, I get that, right? But I'm just telling you, I promise you on the other side of it. It's not as bad as you think it is. It's not a big deal to tell a girl at all. I think, but for my, for my response,
Starting point is 00:37:22 I guess what I get is like I get I get I decide I get women I ask women again I don't have a problem getting in women not just to chew my own horn I'm just being honest right I'm very confident I can have a code of good conversation boom yeah right and when I get a woman to come around I'm at that point I'll I'll lead into it with this like hey you know I'm a leg God like man anything that freaking brings out your legs that's yeah I love tights and stockings yeah that's that's the easy gateway totally that's good that's good that's good And the response to it is, is, is like, determines like, all right, if I'm going to do this or I'm not. Because I'm, I'm being honest with you. I'm so, I'm such a sexual person. Like, I love, like, even if you don't, that person I am, like, if I will, if you told me that you get turned on by eating, fuck me, eating red ants. I would eat red ants every fucking day to make you come. Right. Because I'm, I'm, I have a, I'm like, if I'm pleasing this girl, I'm making her come before I,
Starting point is 00:38:22 I'm even doing anything, that I know she's going to put on pen heels for me. Right. So I was like, I'm like the type of person. Like, all right, let me go first. You tell me what you like. You know, and if you like this, boom, I'm going to do it. I'm going to fucking knock your socks off. So by the time it comes around for me telling you I like fucking pantos, you're going to knock my socks off.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Right. You know what I mean? So let me ask you, how do girls respond? You know, you get, I mean, honestly, I don't really get a negative response. Of course not. You know what I mean? Because, again, I feel like I'm a decent. I feel like I'm a decent looking guy.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So girls are always open to be like, all right, but then it dies out. So some girls will be like, all right, okay, that's good. That's good to know. And then you have some who are like, boom, let's do it. And you have some who are like. I don't hear you. Sorry, you can hear me now? Yeah, yeah, go on.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Sorry. You have some who are like, um, who are like, let's do them. And then you have some who are, don't just forget about it and, and probably find an excuse like not to wear it. Right? Or complain about like, oh, really, like you really want me to do? Or it's hot or it's uncomfortable. You know what I mean? So I don't know. Let me ask you this. What's the longest relationship you ever had? Who undisclosed? I don't know. Some years. What do you mean? Let's let's put it like this. I've had the longest relationship I have was probably it was about eight years.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Okay. Is that the mother of your child? Correct. Okay. Were you guys married? No. So she would, she would do the hose thing with you and everything was cool? All the time. All the time. Okay. So that was good. Yeah, that was good.
Starting point is 00:40:03 But, you know, she, she would do it all the time. But like it said, and there was time when we first started dating, you know, we weren't really as serious. So there'll be times where obviously I still had, you know, other girls I was seeing. But then when we got serious and it was like she would wear them all the time, right? But now that I'm single is just like, honestly, I started like a fake Instagram just to freaking look at pictures. just to kind of satisfy to get my Peno's fix in because it's honestly to me it's much easier to fucking whack off the Panyos picks and the fucking goes into the trouble of. Yeah, that's the problem nowadays.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You know what I mean? Yeah, nobody's like, hook it up because you just do all these other stuff. But no, but listen, I mean, how long has it been since you've had a relationship? I mean, I mean, you get, I mean, honestly hasn't been too long. I mean, I get women that I see from time to time. No, but like a girl that you actually liked. Like, you know, you were with someone for eight years, right? You were obviously in love with that person.
Starting point is 00:41:03 You had a child with that person. Right. You got it ended, right? I don't know how long ago it ended. But like since then, have you met another girl, woman who you have, like, fallen in love with? Like, I had a real relationship with. Not a hookup, not sex. Now, do you, are you looking?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Like, how long has it been since you and your girl broke up? Oh, it's very over a year. I mean, that's not a long time. It's almost like almost two years. Okay, so almost two years, but you were together for eight years. So maybe, you know, right. So do you feel like you would want a companionship in your life? Or are you more interested in just like playing the field?
Starting point is 00:41:43 I'm playing the field. I'm playing the field. Right. So you're on Fat Life then like looking for hookups, right? Right. But see, I think honestly I think Fat Life, even for Panheels guys, like pet life is so like, it's almost impossible because again it's like
Starting point is 00:41:58 and this goes to another thing I don't think women I might ask you this question too right? Yeah. I don't think women even I don't think women will wear them for their man but I don't think women have a panos for this It's almost like this.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I don't think so either. Yeah I don't think so I've put the shout out on here like if there's a guy I've said it many times Like if there's a girl please write in Right we would love to talk to her right to see. But I don't think that there's a panty hose fetish for women. Though I do think some women, there are women out there that love to sort of dress certain ways and maybe put those on
Starting point is 00:42:39 and take pictures. You know what I mean? And maybe be, you know, I don't know, like lingerie models. You know what I mean? Like, you know, there's plenty of those kind of girls out there. But what is it, what are you looking for though on fat life? Like women that are going to send you pictures, There's women that you could hook up with that are going to wear them. More of like women that you're like this women in my city that can hook up with, right, that are that are open to wearing them. Right. Again, that's that's almost impossible because they're married.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Right. It's a husband. Like that's like that's the problem you run into like on social media. You'll never find here's here's two scenarios that you're going to run into like on social media or fit life. You're going to find a woman who's who if they wear pantyhose and they're seeing. They're only going to sell picks. You know, they're not looking to even, like, meet or do anything in her life. Or you're going to have a Panyos page on Instagram or whatever that's actually ran by their husband.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Right. But that's because you're fishing in the wrong pond. You're trying to find, like, like the girl, but no, just listen to hear me out, okay? The girl who's on the Instagram thing that's getting all these followers and shit, you know, she's doing it to make a buck most likely, right? or even if like whatever so you know of course she's gonna charge you for that you know what i'm saying like i because like listen if you were looking for something really specific and hardcore maybe it's much easier to go on instagram or fat life and find that girl who has like really put it out there right but i think because this is such an it an an easy no big deal fetish that
Starting point is 00:44:21 you should fish in the regular pond for regular girls that aren't going to fucking charge for it that will be your good looking guy they'll be happy to be screwing you and they'll just do it for you like there's girl like just like you say like you love to turn somebody on like women like to do the same things like if i'm in a guy and i really liked him and he just like loves panty house i'd be like that's so fucking easy to get him hard like i don't think it's a big deal is what i'm saying like i still think you know you don't have to go to fet life or these places to find a girl that will do that for you i think you could go into any bar.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Don't you work in a nightclub? Can I say that? Yeah, yeah, it's fine. And you're right. Like, I mean, like, it's, you're right. I can't. And I, and I do. Yeah, of course you.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I'm sure you do. It's, it's, it's like, you know what? Like, here's the thing. In real life. Yeah. In real life, it comes with, especially with me, it's strange as that. Somebody wants to fall in love. Somebody wants to.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Oh, right. So, listen, we could take pantyos out of the story. And it's going to be the same story that a lot of men, and some women faith and lots of women, whereas you're not looking for a relationship. You want a booty call, right? You want the sex to be specific, right? Whatever, but that's like everybody, right?
Starting point is 00:45:37 And you, it's hard to find. So that's why I get why you're on like Fet Life or something, because you're just looking for a girl who wants the fucking bang. Well, you most likely a girl that has a husband is going to be the best scenario for you because, you know, if you don't want a girl to wind up liking you, you know, it's like it's hard to find a girl that's single that, you know, is just going to want to do you and say see you later. Though they exist.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Though they totally exist. I think like, it's like, listen, like, I don't want to, I don't really, if I can find somebody, I can throw some pennios on, we can fucking move on, boom. That's great. But honestly, like, if I found like, it's, if I found a girl who was cool and she just opened his mind as me, that's fun. I think I feel like I have a better chance of doing that. wait what is that what's that's what's that scenario that you have a better chance of finding what is
Starting point is 00:46:29 finding almost like finding some i have a better chance to find me i'm going to tell you this too so i have a better chance to find somebody like online who's more open uh to wearing pantyhills and like meeting somebody like i i figure like all right i have it's out of five people online you're probably going to get three or four of them that'll be like yeah i'll wear it for yeah it's cool in real life you're you out of five people you may strike out you know what I mean you're or you know you're not going to get anybody because you may get five women you're like oh yeah you're attractive you're cool but
Starting point is 00:47:00 I'm not into that right and so you just too so I actually I got for this I've met two women it's what I'm still talking to right now but I've met two women from just like IG right I don't have like my page is private I have like yeah right so I have my personal I have a few personal picks up there
Starting point is 00:47:19 but it's not my real page but which is almost impossible because it's like women are used to just getting like their typical creepers or whatever. But I've actually met like a few like actually big pannios models like fetish models. Uh-huh. And how's that then? Oh, actually it went pretty good. And I got one who's like, I have one who lives in another state, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And she just came up here a couple times to see me. And she wears from me. she freaking takes pictures for me and it's fucking amazing. I'm not gonna lie. Like it's like six years ago. No. Okay, so that's great.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah, I mean, but it's just like fuck, like, you know my work skills, scratch is crazy and she lives in other states. Like I can't commit to giving her everything. And then also I'm like, well, fuck, I can't, I, you know, I don't know. But I don't be honest with these, I mean, our penny of sex is amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah, that's amazing. You already scored. Yeah, but I just can't I'm like, all right, well, I'm not going to move to where she's living and she's not going to move here. Well, you don't want a relationship, so why do you want to move? Because you would want it to be more constant, like more than just like maybe once a month or whatever you see her.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Right. And she, I mean, I think she's wanting that. And I can, I mean, I'm thinking like, well, even if it goes that, when she's a gorgeous woman, I'm like, oh, fuck. What? I mean. Is it like, yeah, I don't know. It's just like, I think that.
Starting point is 00:48:50 What's the problem? Shit, I don't know. Oh, she might like you and then you don't want a relationship is what you're saying. Well, it's like, I'm like, well, I'd love to have, I'd, yeah, I don't know. Who knows? It's just, it's a tough scenario. I'm not following you. I guess for me it's like, all right, so let's say, all right, boom, yeah, I can, right now it's fun.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It's fun as hell because there's no strings attached. Yeah, that's what you like. If you really want, if you really want to be with me, right? Like, do you think that you can sit here and deal with my work schedule, my son? And also, do I want to date, be with somebody long term that's a fetish model? Like, she's a full-time fetish model. Yeah. I'm like, oh, God, it's just exciting right now.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It's not something I would look. You know what I mean? Right. And how do you know how many other guys she's fucking if she bet you on Instagram and started banging you? How do you know there's not five of other views that exist? Who knows? But it took a while for it to even, like, it took almost like we've known Jeff like two years.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Oh, okay. Right. Like, why when we broke up? Well, I think you sound confused because you're confusing me. Probably so. Who knows? I think you don't know what you want. I think there's a little bit as far as like, and maybe I don't, maybe I'm making more of this because I started the conversation about what you're looking for, what you're, you know what I mean? Because it seems like in one sense you're saying you don't want a relationship or anything.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And it seems like though when you tell me that you have these kind of just random hookups that are actually perfect that you're can you know they're not really ideal that i'm like a little confused about what you're looking for that you're not getting because it seems like you have what you're looking i guess i'm i'm getting it i don't know who knows i'm maybe i'm confused you i'm getting it. i guess i'm getting it uh you know i just want sometimes i just want a good panio's fucking night of fun right and then after that I'm like alright leave me alone I get too much going on
Starting point is 00:50:53 right but doesn't that panic goes girl do that for you and you said you've met others right have so have so is it that you want somebody like consistently like let me ask you this say there like pretend this is a fake scenario but pretend this is real right this is a fake scenario but pretend it could be real would you take this scenario
Starting point is 00:51:09 if there was a girl that lived in your town that was like really into like was a fetish model you know panty hose person that just wanted to bang you once a week, no strings attached, that's it. She would never like you.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Like, that's what you're looking for, right? Is that what you want? Is it that, like, is what's lacking for these other scenarios that it's not consistent?
Starting point is 00:51:35 Or put like this, so say, here's what turns me on to. This is a huge turnoff for me as far as, like, Panios. I love it when a woman is a professional, right?
Starting point is 00:51:45 But she would be a, she would be a Panios freak behind closed doors. Right? Right, right. Oh, so like the conservative office girl, right? Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:55 A fucking panio is just a maniac for me. Most of those people that wear suits and offices are freaky. It's just like, you know. That exists. That gets me so hard like no other. Yeah. So it's like I don't know if I would be into, yes, the fetish girl would be, or the fetish model would be fun. But it's like, that's what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Like it's like, it's like, right, it's two in your face. You wanted a little bit more seductive because when it's a little bit more undercover, right? You like that naughtiness of nobody knowing kind of thing. But that's why I think you have to, that's why I said you need to, you're fishing in the wrong pond like vet light. Like that's, you're not going to find that person there. You're going to find that person like in your town walking around that woman that you, you know, just maybe look. conservative but is attractive and you get to know that person and then they could be a freak listen to the people that call my show like they're out there most people are into weird fucking shit and you could find that girl like in your town that and she's not on fat life and she's not on instagram posting pics of herself like i think you want something like that totally can exist but i think that you're not putting it in the right place like i do think you can find a girl you just have to keep looking it's like anything in life.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Like it's not, it's not easy for anybody to find the right situation. It's not easy for someone to find someone to fall in love with. And it's also not easy for someone to find a fucking booty call that will stay a booty call
Starting point is 00:53:30 that doesn't come with fucking baggage. It's good. It actually doesn't fucking exist. Okay, I've tried it. It's always a fucking pain in the ass. Even for women, okay? It's like crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But, and guys will say that too. And so if you find someone like, it's great, but you're never going to get like the perfect booty call, right? It just doesn't really exist. So like I think, no, not really, but you could find them. But you're always going to be sacrificing something, right?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Right now you have a good booty call situation, but she's like the Instagram model, right? Like you want the, like you could find an office girl probably that's into that and there'll be something with her, you know, but that's why, you know, it's just a fucking booty call, you know. But like you could find that. I think you just got to keep, you could find more is what I'm saying of that. And, you know, if you just keep banging girls from your club or meeting people down. the street like i don't know you know i um yeah yeah you're right i think that what women too i'm leading into this with the whole tv scenario and how it's in our face and stuff number one i think what women i think women would wear more if they realize how much power they like women already
Starting point is 00:54:36 have power right period like a woman is a guy's weakness hands down but they when women like wears like a short skirt and heels and hose it will draw more attention to men than like short shorts. I got to tell you, I was in like Dwayne Reid or writing on one of those stores recently and there was a woman in front of me who was wearing like shorts and pantyhoes
Starting point is 00:55:00 and flip flops and I was like Exactly so she was doing that for a reason. I was like first of all my first thought is like that's like ridiculous but my second thought is like she is turning so and I saw a old
Starting point is 00:55:15 man checking her out and I was like, this is like, if you could like have the balls or like the, I don't know, I don't think it's balls. I don't know. Like the non-fashion sense to actually put panty hose and shorts on nowadays when it's not like in style to go out. Like you don't know how many guys would be like fucking into you. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:55:35 It's so much power. Yeah. But girls. Yeah. We don't want to wear hose with shorts. I don't know. But I was like, oh, this girl is not doing it for any reason. But she doesn't realize that every guy in this line is fucking.
Starting point is 00:55:47 checking her out. That's why, I mean, so you think about, this is leading into, like, ads and TV, like, you think about, like, every, almost like every lingerie ad or something to do, like, you know, it's more revealing of, like, skin and whatever, like, women's always wearing,
Starting point is 00:56:05 like, some type of thighhaz or stockings. Yeah. Right? Like, there's tons of ads. It has nothing to do with pantos when women are wearing thahas or stockings. It's, like, it's sexy. Like, it is sexy.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Right. And you think about, let's, I'm going to be honest with you. So think about Fox News and stuff like that. I didn't even know what Fox News back in the day was. Right. I think I was like maybe like 17, 16. I don't know what Fox News was. I remember I would, I would watch it. I'd happen to come across it because the, the anchors like Kim, whatever name was, right? But it was literally wear pantyhoes every day. And she was on the, on the show of the five. And she was sitting there at the front, like the front of the fucking table. So people could see it. Right. And they, and it was one of, I mean, again, I don't fucking, I mean, I don't watch Fox News now, but it's like, they would have like, I didn't know what it was back then, but I was like, oh my God, like, I'm going to tune into this to make sure to watch her. Yes. Listen, did you listen to the last guy I had on the nylon guy who talked about it? He was like British. He had an accent. And he talked about how like in the army there, because he kept using this word.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I'm like, what the fuck is that he's like the army? And he was saying they made the girls wear the fucking thigh high things. and he was like, and I was like, oh my God, like this was obviously like a panty hose because it's like, and I'm like, if you think about it, probably a Fox News and all over anywhere where there's these panty hose rules for women or the person that made her sit in front. Like people, these are people that are into it, right? And then they know, and it's actually smart because so many people are into it. So it's such a good thing to use in your ads or in your anchors or in, you know what I mean? And if you're a girl and you're looking and pick up guys at the bar wear them. Like, you know, this is like a PSA for that, right?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Like put a girl in hose and there's like a lot of fucking people that are going to be attracted to it. No one's going to talk about it, right? No one. But it will be more appealing, right? And maybe the people at Fox News, they knew that, right? I don't think anyone talks about it, but, you know, maybe that was another person in position of power. And since so many people are into it, it's just like I think a lot of guys are making those decisions because it's like, they're down with it, right?
Starting point is 00:58:15 For sure. I used to, so let me tell you, like, going back into when I was, like, younger, I used to, when I first started jacking off, I would literally, I would, I would watch QVC. This is like a big thing. Like, it's like, no, seriously. Like, one of our, like, on, like, this little panty hose form I'm on, like, section for, like, QVC sightings, which is, like, more common. I thought it was just me, but it's common for, like, pantyho's finished guys.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Like, guys would literally watch. watch QVC for the host to wear pantyholes, right? Or if they're doing like, they'll have like wear, like legacy, whatever it was, like the paniels thing back in the day, they would have like models and panos or they would be like in these massage chairs or whatever and they would have to take their shoes off to be there and they would get a close up on their feet and on the bed and stuff. And it would freaking, I would come so much. And like I thought it was just me, but so many guys.
Starting point is 00:59:08 So listen, this is like anybody listening that owns like a mattress store. or like, you know, anything that you could put a girl in a hose in your ad, you know, make, it's like, make that scenario, like, make that girl have, like, panty hose on, laying on your mattress or whatever, like, right? It would be smart to just throw that into any kind of scenario where you're trying to sell shit or get eyes on it, right? Because look at how many people are into it, right? Look at what these people do.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Like you said, you go on these forums and people are talking about everyone's going to these QBC things because they have these models doing it. So it's like other people should take note of that and put it in their fucking ads. Yes, I agree. Right. Oh my God. I agree so much. And it's so easy and you could do it without it really being obvious, right?
Starting point is 00:59:58 Like the Fox News people just put a hot. I mean, they do so obviously only hire like really hot girls and they're not dumb, right? It's like, but it's like the other people should do that. Right. And there's things, right? Like, because it works. Like if I mean, I don't know if you guys are buying anything on QBC, but you're tuning in. No, fuck on.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I guess my, I'm intrigued to know like how many guys have actually lived out their, like, their Panyos fantasies, right? I think I've literally like, from going into like some of the things that I was younger into like, especially when I was older. Like, I remember, like, I think I've lived out just about every Fanyos, Panios fetish I can really think of that I always wanted to do when I was little, right? Like I've been in the restaurant and I had a girl, you know, take her hair off with their panos feet. I remember being in the, like literally coming on her feet in the restaurant. Right. I remember. And let me ask you this with all these stories and all the stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:00:55 Has it lost its luster for you? It's not like you need more or anything, right? That's what I'm saying. Like, I still need more. Like I've fucking, I've seen, I've been a part of like a threason with a guy and his wife. He was fucking her in Panyos and you know what I mean? Like he literally, after she was done, after he was. was done like he wanted me to fucker in panty hells i did that i've i've met random people through
Starting point is 01:01:17 my job that we're wearing and i ended up fucking you have no issue right so i don't know why i got into the whole like what are you looking for thing like you don't need anything more like i mean you're good to go you'll figure it out but i just think one day when you're eventually ready for another relationship like i don't think it's and we're going to end on this because we're almost about an hour, but like, I don't think that it is a big deal to any girl. And if it is, run for the fucking hills, because that girl's not going to swallow when she blows you. She's not going to let you put a finger up her ass. I mean, she's going to be like uptight is what I'm saying. Because any regular girl, I think, like, we'll be fine with that, would be fine. And maybe
Starting point is 01:02:01 they'll drop off and not wear them as much. But if that's your girl, like, you have to keep up, make them do it. You know what I mean? And like any keeping sex life good for any long, long-term relationship sometimes takes a little bit of work. But like, I don't think it's a big deal when you eventually do decide to get in a relationship with somebody or you meet a hot office girl and you want her to live out that fantasy that you have. I don't think it's a big deal to put your shit out there and be like, I'm really into pantyhose. It's no girl will mind. And like I said, if she does, she's going to suck in bed.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So who cares? Do you understand that could be like your way of weeding out the trash? Let a girl know. I don't know any girl That would like a guy That would be like turned off I don't know I turned off by that It's not that difficult of a thing
Starting point is 01:02:47 I promise you It's not such a freak flag It's a little one you know I get that like I said I think because This has always been such a like you're you know You have memories of jerking off in your friend's Mother's bedroom you know Because it was such a secret thing that you had to do
Starting point is 01:03:06 and it was tied to your sexuality and this had to be under wraps and it was like this whole naughty thing for you that you still have it sort of framed like that in your head but I don't think that it's at the end of the day it's that hardcore for a woman to take and women are are a lot more forgiving with things than guys are I have to say I mean do you know what I mean like girls and I think if a girl winds out and when a girl likes a guy like you know she's not going to you know let go of that. It has to be something really bad to sort of change that, right? I just don't think a panty hose fetish or, and you don't have to even use the word panty hose, but that you're into that, that that would make her freak out and not like you. No way. Not even like that. Just kind of,
Starting point is 01:03:54 I don't want it to be like, oh, what? Like, that's kind of, you know what I mean? I'm like, but they wouldn't. They wouldn't think it's not weird. I told you, like, I think you could let any girl listen to this podcast that you met. Any normal regular great girl that you want to fucking date like listen to everything that you said in this podcast. And I mean, maybe not the three somewhere you fuck the guy's wife, but maybe she'd get freaked out by that. But everything else, most girls would be totally fine with it. There's nothing, you know, there's nothing. They might think that the mom that let you almost like touch her pussy was fucked up, but they wouldn't think you, you don't
Starting point is 01:04:32 mean, you were like the victim, like you were in like the perpetrator. I mean, you were the perpetrator, but you were young, you know what I mean? So I don't think anything in this podcast that any normal girl would hear would be like freaked out and be like, oh, I don't want to date you. You know what I mean? I just don't. I don't think it's that big of the deal. And that's what I
Starting point is 01:04:48 want people that are into panios to know that it's not, you know, in the scheme of things, you're not telling a girl, like, I like to fuck guys in the ass. I think that that's a harder thing. And I've told people guys on my show that, like That's a harder thing for a girl to some girls might not be into that. A lot of girls would not be into that.
Starting point is 01:05:05 You know what I mean? And so there's a lot of other fetishes out there that are things that you could be into sexually that a lot of girls would be like, no. And it's a harder sell. But this one, not a big deal. I promise you. So it's okay. And so guys that are into this should be able to tell girls and, you know, and I think it's a little bit different when you like to wear them because then a girl might think like, oh, like, you know, how far does that go?
Starting point is 01:05:31 I think that's the most common thing for guys who are into it. I mean, it's not all, obviously, but what's a common theme? The whole I want to wear. No, but I've had plenty of, but I've had a couple guys that haven't. And I thought when I started to talk to guys,
Starting point is 01:05:47 I would find out that so many guys did want to wear them. And then I thought everyone did. And then I talked to something that didn't at all. Then I realize it's not across the board. I wouldn't say at all. And like everyone, sort of takes a different ways. You know, that's why I like to talk to different people.
Starting point is 01:06:02 But I don't think you could say it's one way or the other. It's very specific to different people. But I think in the scenario where you don't even like to wear it, it's even easier to tell. Whereas I have all the guys that have called me up that like to wear it, their wives. Most of them, their wives know and they're fine with it. You know, so I think that it's even easier to tell a girl. I don't like to fucking wear them. I don't, you know, but I like to see you in them.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I want to, you know, it's fine. So if a guy told you, like seriously, God's fucking boom. I don't know if you're married or not, but the guy comes up like, hey, just what I'm into? Yeah. You see? Yeah. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:06:41 I just said I'm not married. I didn't say I wouldn't do that. Oh, I'm sorry, but I'm just like, no, I'm not wearing it. But the guy comes up to you. Oh, no, no, I'm not with anyway. Yeah, I wouldn't care if that's like the easy thing to do that gets them so horny. It's like, it's such a, I would be, I don't know, maybe that makes me lazy. but the first thing I would think is like wow that's like an easy thing do you know what I mean like
Starting point is 01:07:01 it's easy it's not a hard thing and it's like you just have to put them on or go shot you know it's not that difficult and you if you want to like if you like if you like someone you want to please them and turn them on that's how I am like I would think that that's an easy thing it'd be hard if like I met a guy and he's like I want you to deep throat me while standing on your house like that's what I'm into like I might be like I don't know how to deep throat and I don't know that I ever can and that would put pressure on me but wearing panty hose it's so easy. I wouldn't bother me.
Starting point is 01:07:29 See, I think my problem with my last relationship that I'm so into them that I would literally like, it almost gets to the point where it's like, you know, every time we have sex, like it's going to be amazing but you got to put them on. That might be annoying, but that's what porn is for.
Starting point is 01:07:46 No, but that doesn't matter. Nothing's so black and white. It might be annoying sometimes, but the majority of the time it won't be. 70% of the time it's fine, but 30%. And that's what relationships are all about. It's like compromise. So you can't do that. And then that's like I said what porn is for and all this other shit. You know, go get your rocks off someplace else. That's what I would tell you. It was like every time I'd be like, no. It's just like every time, you know, so that's normal. You know, of course.
Starting point is 01:08:14 So there's a little compromise that I'd have to take that would have to be sort of agreed to. But like, no girl's going to like be that not into it. You'll be fine. And you know, listen, And the perfect thing would be you find a girl eventually when you want to really, you don't want a relationship now, but eventually if you did, when you do, that you find a girl that not only would do it for you. Like, I'm not into pantyhose myself, but like I would do it for a guy. But like what you'd really want to is a girl that really loves lingerie and stuff like that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:44 That's really actually into it too. That is the perfect thing. And, you know, I think a lot of girls are. So I don't think that that's hard to find. Right. And they're not professional. You know what I mean? a girl, a regular girl that likes it and likes to dress really sexy for her guy and into, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:00 and that girl would be perfect for it because like the worst thing is like when you're a girl, right, and when I was younger and I used to buy like hot outfits and like if you're with a guy that doesn't even care, like he just wants you naked. You know what I mean? Like some guys just want to see girls naked. Some guys are really into like 90s and negligence and stuff like that. Some guys aren't, you know, and there's nothing worse than putting on a whole fucking get up and the guy just like wants you to take it off. But there's nothing better than when you put that shit on and the guy like fucking loves it, right?
Starting point is 01:09:28 So if a girl is into that and you're super into it, that's like the perfect match. You know, because the girl is getting what she wants, which is someone that really loves seeing her dressed up sexy because she likes to do it and that person gets it. And you get what you want because she loves doing it and you get turned on. You know what I mean? So it's a win-win. And I think that that's easy to find. A lot of girls like to dress up in hot outfits. Look at Halloween.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Look at the shit that Halloween girls. That's what girls want to wear all the time. And they do it on Halloween because it's the only time they're allowed to. But every girl has like an inner slut. Come on. In college, before I built up, you know, my confidence to ask girls to wear pantails. It would be Halloween. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I'll get it like a Halloween. Yeah, but look, but they're wearing, they're all wearing thigh highs and nurse outfits. Like, why do you think they're doing that? Because they finally can and it's acceptable, but they want you all the time. And so if they could, like, you know, so, you know, girls like to be dressed slutty and be hot and let out that part of themselves. There's nothing wrong with that, right? And so if you do it with your guy and he's really into it, there's nothing better.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So that's why it's sad. It's like, there's regular girls that like that stuff and are into it. and you'll find it. It's just a matter of when you want a regular relationship. But until then, like you said, you're having no problem meeting girls. Just remember that you could tell a girl that you're into pantyhose and you fucking like it and she's not going to change her mind. And if she does, she's like I said, not worth, like see ya.
Starting point is 01:11:09 She's not cool. But that's not the majority. That's going to be the minority. The majority of hot girls out there are going to be fucking fine with it. I'm gonna hold you I'm fucking holding you to it okay fuck fuck
Starting point is 01:11:22 you're saying fuck a lot you're so positive you're not from Jersey that's such a jersey thing all the fucks you said to fuck a lot did you talk about Jersey? Well I'm from
Starting point is 01:11:31 I'm born up north oh you were okay yeah because it's the East East Coast thing yes when I first started my podcast
Starting point is 01:11:41 I was so horrified by how much I cursed because I was like a fucking this fucking that you know and I think I
Starting point is 01:11:47 still curse a lot now but it's Like it's, I cut it so much and half because when I listened to myself, I was like horrified. Like, fuck, fuck, fuck. No, it was like fucking this. Wait till you hear yourself how much you say it. You say you're very, like to me, you sound like you're from the East Coast, but I know you called me from like another place. So, and we were in different time zones.
Starting point is 01:12:05 But yeah, you talk like an East Coast version. But you'll hear this podcast back and you'll hear how much you curse. But anyway. Oh, listen. I, I already fucking work. I'm like, hey, I'm a guy. Hey, fuck. I'm a guy.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Hey, fucking. You know, are you fucking kidding me? what? I'm like hey fuck is wrong with you fucking you know yeah it's a fucking this fucking that way to you hear it yeah you'll wait to you know as a third person you'll be interested but I'll keep you posted and let you know when I air this one and you'll let me know what you think
Starting point is 01:12:30 after you listen to it but thanks for calling in with all your stories that were good and I think people are going to like them because they think they're like hot panio stories for people to hear well I loved it all right good thank you all right thanks so much okay I just want to tell you before you go that my book it's called strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lies of total strangers is now available not only in paperback
Starting point is 01:12:54 and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a cuck story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl's story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true
Starting point is 01:13:40 stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you
Starting point is 01:14:27 can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private. Like I said, all you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.
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