Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 304 - Wendy Hooks Up with Other Guys While her Husband Watches

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

Wendy has taken part in gang bangs, solo hook-ups with other guys, swapping scenarios and more in front of her bisexual husband Chris (episode #304) and she calls in to talk all about it. How long w...ere they married before they opened up their relationship? What kind of guys is she into and what doesn’t she like to do with them? How many typically show up to the gang-bangs and who sets them all up? How did she feel when she found out her husband Chris was bisexual? Tune in to find out, plus hear all about her kinky past which includes how and when she started swinging, how she worked as a church secretary and accidentally found out there were other swingers in the congregation, the swinging she did with her ex-husband, the full swap she had with with her bisexual husband and what exactly went down between all of them and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep https://www.dipseastories.com/strictlyanon Hear the hottest stories on Dipsea and get a 30-day FREE trial https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
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Starting point is 00:00:39 anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, this is a call and advice show where I give total strangers my unprofessional advice, but what I do mostly is just listen to people talk about their secret lives or naughty lives. So if you have a secret naughty life that you want to share with my listeners or you have a problem and your friends don't feel like listening to you anymore and you want some advice, good advice. I think I give good advice. It's unprofessional, but it's good. You can be on the show. Some email at Strictly Anonymous Podcast.com or click, go to my website, strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on be on the show. Today I'm on Wendy, as promised. Wendy is Chris's husband.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Chris, I aired his episode last week. You could listen to his episode 303 if you haven't yet. today we hear from Chris's wife who talks all about how she got into swinging. She was like swinging at 28 and you'll hear how it started. Where she, I don't know, where she worked. There was just like kind of interesting. She worked in a church as a church secretary. And I don't know. And so you'll hear from his wife Wendy and she's going to talk all about like when
Starting point is 00:01:53 she got into swinging. She got into it really early on. she talks about when she got into it how you know what she did with her first husband before she met Chris she got into some a lot of details about the hot scenarios her and her husband Chris have been in which include like gang bangs and her having multiple partners and we do get into what happened or like when her husband came out to her which was recently and what they did this weekend with a couple which it has to do with popping some cherries that's what he said in his email. I didn't know what happened, but we talk about it because, and I think he alluded to
Starting point is 00:02:30 her in the last podcast, like something's going to go down this weekend. So we talk about the hot SEX they had with another couple this weekend and then all these other hot stories that Wendy talks about. And she's interesting because here's a woman that's like been really open and really sexual and into really pleasing her man in whatever way he wants because she likes it, not because he wants it. I mean, there's that aspect to it, but it's because she likes. She likes too. She's having a good time. And it's always nice to hear from a woman who's that open and has, you know, and is letting herself be that open and honest about it. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Wendy. How are you? I'm good. Thanks. I feel like I know a lot about you because
Starting point is 00:03:14 your husband was on the show last week, right? Did you listen to his episode? Because I know that when you emailed me at first you were like, oh, I won't listen to it. It's going to be hard not to. But I was like, no, listen to it so you know sort of what he brought up and, you know, what you can bring up, you know? Yep, yep. I listened to it on Monday. Okay, cool. So you know all the backstory he gave about him.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I know, like, the reason why I wanted you guys separate was because he had that whole bisexual thing going on with him, right? And when I said I was going to do you separate, you're like, oh, I have a backstory. This is what you said to me. And you could, you know, expand upon it. You worked in a church. You were a church secretary. I was the church secretary for many years.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, and shit went down in that church. Yes, it did. What was going on in that church? There were, of course, not everybody knew. Yeah. But there were swingers within the church. And how did you find them being the secretary? Because I was also a swinger.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Oh, so you guys met in the club? No, actually on Swapper Net. I saw them on there. They actually posted their face pictures. Oh my God. But your face wasn't on there, but you knew them from church. So you saw them on the Swingers network. Is that place still like online?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Swap network. Okay. No. Swapper. No. It's no longer. It was a good one, but no longer on. And then did you say like did you wink at them one day and like I saw you like what?
Starting point is 00:04:47 How did the exchange go down? Well, I did not one of them I did not, one couple I did not talk to. there was a single man that happened to be my best friend's husband. No way. With his face picture, yes. So did you tell your best friend? No, I couldn't because you never know what another couple's personal sexual life is. Well, did you worry that she didn't know?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Is that why you didn't tell her? Yeah, it was kind of worried that she didn't know. But I did confront him. Uh-huh. But then I outed myself as well. but, you know. And what did he say? Was he on there on the down low and was like, oh, thanks so much for not telling my wife.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yes. He said, oh, my gosh, you're not going to tell her, are you? And I said, no, because I don't know what your personal business is at your home. However, I suggest you take your face picture off. Yeah, that's a little good advice, right? I can't tell you how many times people tell me stupid shit that they do about their secret lives, like where they're hiding stuff or, you know, they're posting their pictures. Like, how, like, dumb are you?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Right. Right. Especially if you're in the church and like he was actually doing things within the church, you know, up singing every Sunday morning doing things. So, yeah. Right. And you found him. So that means somebody else is going to. I mean, and you were the church secretary. Imagine you, well, I mean, the only way you found him was because you were a swing or two and you were on there.
Starting point is 00:06:16 But like, you know, it's so risky, I think. And did you wind up hooking up with him? him? Oh, oh, no, no. He wanted to, but he was definitely not my type. Oh, he wasn't. Okay. Not good looking or I don't know. What is your type? I like tall, um, manly men. Right. Okay. Right. Yeah. Your husband said they have to be taller than you. And he's like really tall, right? So all the guys you hook up with with him. Now what was your, so like how old are you when you're this church secretary or how old were you when you started swinging and, and like was it then? Yeah. I'm 48 now. Didn't start until I was 28. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But that's pretty young. Pardon me? That's pretty young. Yeah. But I had only had two men up until then, ever. Yeah, but still, well, people don't know some of the younger people that are listening. I know because I'm around your age, right? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:07:11 At 28, like you were pretty balzy and ahead of your time to be doing that kind of stuff because the climate was not very, accepting, right? Like, I mean, it was a very different world back then, way more conservative than it is now, you know? Right. Very underground. Yeah. So, like, what led you into that at even 28, considering you were, had just been with a couple guys? Well, one of the guys that I was with was my trial spouse. Okay. The first husband? Yes. The first husband. Yeah. And, and he got, got into like Yahoo chat groups and things. And then he started asking me, you know, would I be willing to try something like it and said, sure, why not? We didn't have the greatest relationship.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So that's how it started. And so did you invite other couples in? Like, were you hooking up with the guys? Was it the same type of situation of what you have with your husband now, where you were like with the other partner or was your husband with the other partner? Originally, it was couples. So full swaps? Full swaps, same rooms.
Starting point is 00:08:19 and then, you know, after that, that gets kind of monotonous. You want something new. Yeah. You want something new, right? Go on. Then you would go out. Then I would go out or have someone over while he was at work. And then eventually, when we were at the swing clubs, he would go on his own in other rooms.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And be with other women. It's funny because, you know, your husband said he was very concerned at, first, whether you were really going to be okay with him being with other women. But he knew that you had let your former husband do it? Yes. Okay. But he was still a little worried. Because I was like, I don't think we touched upon that because I was like, you know, I totally understand why some partners would be a little nervous of like how the person will actually react when it happens. But you had done it before with your first husband. So you guys like are hooking up with different people. And now is this when you're the church secretary when you're 28? Yes. So funny. And so
Starting point is 00:09:19 you meet so did you hook up with any of the people in your church to the other swingers oh no no okay none of them i think that would be it was from a small town and i think that would just be way too close to home right now the other couple so one couple was one couple was your friend's husband right oh well it was just your friend's husband now the other couple what was the deal with them again i just i stayed clear of that because i didn't want them to know that i knew right so you both you both it on the down low. So, right. And also, it's awful.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But as the church secretary, you know things within the congregation that you wish you didn't know. Like what? Like people who are cheating on each other and it, you know, how do I want to say this? Church people are normal people. Exactly. Please. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The regular people. I mean, that's what my whole show sort of is based upon, not just church people, just people in general, you know, you don't know who you're sitting next to and what they're doing. within your own family. Like you could, who knows what your relatives are doing behind closed doors, right? Exactly. Because that's their own business.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Exactly. Nobody talks about it. And that's fine, right? But. Right. And I just think it's funny in a church because there's just this whole sort of guys of everyone being like a certain way or like really prim and proper, right? And then you got like at least two couples that you outed within, you know, in their swinging.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And then you have all these other people cheating, right? because the gossip is going on about them. So now how long were you with that husband and then that just went south? Did you like the swinging? Like did that help your marriage at least? Did that help you stay together for a longer? I think it helped for a little while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 But I guess we were too far gone by the time we started that. It was, you know. Now I think your husband had mentioned that you were in a bad relationship before. Is this the, this was your first husband and then you married. Correct. I married Chris. Chris. Chris, is that his name?
Starting point is 00:11:20 Is that the name we called him? Is that his fake name? My current husband is Chris. Okay. I just made sure we're using the right fake names. Yeah. So then you met Chris. So you're with that guy for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Then you hook up with Chris. Now, you guys both went into it, right, knowing that, because he found you on a Swinger's website, right? So you went, you were still swinging after? Yes. I wasn't looking for anything. Right. But I wanted to have fun still.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Mm-hmm. And you would go there and just like hook up with random guys like that was your thing. I mean, I, I kind of bet them out a little, you know, I just wouldn't go someplace. No, I mean, I would assume that that's how it goes down at Swingers Club. Like you go in, like everyone's like sort of partying, right? And then people disappear into different rooms, right? Like you would bet them out while you're talking to them or you would go a couple times to get to know people and then hook up with them? Either or depending on the person.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Right. I mean, you know right away if you're going to click with someone or not. Right. And now I know your husband said you recently started like fooling around with girls, right? But you had, so you had never done that in all of this time beforehand, right? Because you've been swinging for a while. Right. I had done just slight things like I had went down on a woman before.
Starting point is 00:12:35 But. Well, that's not really slight. I don't think that would be considered slight. Yeah. Well, it was within the realm of the couples. Yeah. You know, all mess. around and I went down and I wasn't down very long because all I could imagine was a McDonald's
Starting point is 00:12:51 fish sandwich. It was bad. It was just, oh my God, she smelled that. It shouldn't have any smell. Come on. Yeah. Oh, I know. But it was like, okay. Enough's enough. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty gross. Now, besides, like, did you have other, did you have women go down on you? A couple times I did. Right. And it's okay. But I did, I'm fine with being with another woman as long as it's, within the realm of the couples. Right. As long as the guys, there's not like something
Starting point is 00:13:21 that you're really bisexual and like really love women, right? Right, right. Women are beautiful. They are. But when it comes to turning me on, I need a dick. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And you like them big, or is that your husband? Both of you. I think both. Yeah. Both. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:38 definitely small ones are out now. And black guys. I mean, I know your husband likes to see that and likes to see you with black eyes. Is that something that you always like? as well? Color doesn't matter to me.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Right. Okay. It doesn't matter more of if we click and you're a sexual person. There are people out there having sex that have no business doing sex because they are not sexual. Right. You know. But you don't meet those people at a swingers club, do you? Some, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But what do you mean by not sexual? They just lay there or they just, you know, the missionary thing. I mean, that even happens in swinger clubs. Right. So they're like not good at sex, maybe, is it? Because I would think not sexual means that they're just like they don't have any imagination. But I feel like if you're, you know, walking into a swingers club and you're opening yourself up to that world, you got to be sexual on some level. But, you know, maybe they're just bad lays.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Right, right. But I think some people go there too with only one of the couples that are really sexual. What do you mean? Oh, you mean. Oh, you're right. you're right just along for the because they have to
Starting point is 00:14:50 right because maybe their partner really wants to so whether that's a woman or a man right someone right but you guys
Starting point is 00:14:56 that's where you guys are so super lucky right because you both came from bad marriages where you both you did much more so than your husband
Starting point is 00:15:05 right because he said he kind of started to dabble with his ex-wife right but it wasn't really working out with her at all so they broke up and but you had
Starting point is 00:15:14 totally dabbled with your husband, right? That didn't work out with him, but you were into, and then you guys met as swinger. So you both show up at the swing club as two sexual people. No one's going to complain about you guys as a cup ball. No, nope. Nobody's been dragged along.
Starting point is 00:15:31 We have actually never, pardon me? No, keep going. I said, we have actually never went to a swing club. We've talked about going. You and him? Yeah, me and Chris. Yeah, we have never been. You just hook up on the side with a couple.
Starting point is 00:15:45 right right so now you guys meet right on the swingers club you had and i know that he said you guys kept it like pretty monogamous with each other for a couple of years before you opened it back up which is surprising to me considering you were even like more professional than he was kind of right you had more experience right but i think when we we met each other the first the very first initial meeting, it was good. I mean, we didn't even have sex the first meeting. Second meeting we did. But we could sit and talk and talk and talk and talk and not have anything to do with sex. Right. And that's pretty great because you guys were both sort of on those, on that website, just really looking for hookups, right? It wasn't like, so that's pretty like
Starting point is 00:16:38 amazing because you weren't looking for that kind of a connection, right? But you actually had it. Right. One in a million chances. Yeah. But I think there's always someone for everyone, right? But that's the kind of partner you really want to have, right? That's someone that you just like enjoy their company so much, right? That you could like you say want to talk to them.
Starting point is 00:16:57 The cherry on the top is that like you guys also have this like amazing sex and you're so like minded, which I think is hard is most people's problems. Right. It is. And you don't have that. I mean, as a woman, I think when you're super open. sexually. And you were, like I said, for you at 28, because I was around your age at 28. You know what I mean? Like at the same, like, nobody was doing that. I mean, there were people doing it, but it was so undercover, you know, and underground like you said. And if I had a friend that
Starting point is 00:17:28 came and told me that, I'd be like, wow, I would be super impressed that he had the balls to do it, you know, back then. And especially as a woman, I do think it's just a little bit not harder, but like there's so much more stigma attached to it, right? That in so many more women are like more repressed with their sexuality for you to be so in touch with it and open with it and have the courage to sort of be yourself at that young age. I think is pretty awesome, right? And it could make your life, like it could make it hard for you to find a guy that could sort of accept both.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I had a girl on recently who was like, oh, it's so hard to find somebody who accepts me as like, you know, the girlfriend as well as, you know, the sex object, right? she has this split life. You have both. You guys, you have both and your husband loves you for both, right? Right. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:18 so much so that he was afraid to be with another woman to, you know, because he didn't want to have anything affect your relationship. He didn't want to rock the boat. Yeah, which is really cool. So you guys were just happy with each other sexually in the beginning. Is that what it was?
Starting point is 00:18:34 Right. We were, we were together. We got married, probably married four years before we started talking about, you know, opening it up. I'm surprised, though. Did you talk about not opening up? Because I would think that walking into a relationship very early on as two people that,
Starting point is 00:18:51 you know, obviously had done open relationships before, there would be some sort of conversation, maybe even like let's not do that as opposed to let's do it or, right? Because you both know you're into it, right? Right. Well, I think early on it was, we talked about, okay, we're not going to do this anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And, you know, you get into the groove of family and everything and life goes on. And then all of a sudden you think, you know, hey, maybe we should try that, you know. What do you think? Right. And so you decided, though, in the beginning that you weren't going to. And both of you were on board with that. And why was that? Because, listen, I think that that's the best thing to do.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I've talked to so many people and so many couples that have been swingers or have open relationship, some who have done it wrong and it's gone horribly wrong, a lot who do it right, and it's super successful. And I think that you do want to get some, you know, years to build a solid foundation, you know, within your own relationship before you open it up. And especially because I think like people like you, you would have been maybe able to be successful doing it even earlier and you did it, which is interesting. But I think that that goes to show that like other people who have no experience, right? Like it is good. to wait, right? Right, it is. And like you said, it's building the foundation, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:14 Chris and I above anybody else, you know, and even now when we talk about doing things, you know, we feel each other out. Right. You know, what do you think, you know, pros, cons, whatever. Yeah, you talk it through and then you do it and then do you talk about it? This is what I find that people say. And then you talk about it afterwards in case that, like you have to feel comfortable, I think that you could bring up you, maybe you had a problem with something or be with a partner who would be open to you sort of being honest about how you felt about it, whether good or bad, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like there are times, I know Chris kind of touched on it, like he'll set things up for me. Yeah. You know, and I won't have a say in it. And there have been a couple really bad interactions, I'll say. No way. I want to hear about some of those because we know about the one where he blindfolded you and the guy come
Starting point is 00:21:06 fuck you and then you guys wind up bumping into him in the courthouse which was hilarious. It was funny though because when we got out of the courthouse and he goes, do you know who that was? And the courthouse was packed. Yeah. I didn't know who exactly he was talking about. Well, he tells me, you know, so-and-so is up there. He's the one that did you blind when you were blindfolded. And so I'm racking my brain thinking, okay, could it be this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, but it was hot, you know, here's some fella and Chris, you know, exchanging glances and I'm clueless. Yeah, but it, but you fucked him. Yeah. And then last year, um, just so happened, Chris got in touch with him and said, you know, just catching up on life, seeing how he is and found
Starting point is 00:21:54 out that he had been married, divorced, had a kid, and lived five minutes from us. So one, one night, Chris comes home from work and he says, go get ready. you're going out tonight. And I said, well, well, Anthony gives us just trust me. So he gives me the address. And I'm like, where I'm supposed to go. And I'm like, that's just down the road.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And he goes, yeah, you'll be surprised. So I'd actually never, you know, full set on eyes on this fella until that night. And then did you know, did he explain who it was? Because your husband was like keeping it on the downlaw, right? He wanted it all to be right. Did the guy when you showed up? Did you remember him from the courthouse?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Or did he explain that he was the guy when you were blindfolded? Well, as I'm on my way to his house, Chris calls me and says, this is the fellow from the courthouse. Oh, there you go. And were you pleasantly surprised when he opened the door? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I know Chris said he wanted, like, that was a time in your marriage where you were like just thinking of maybe like you would have boyfriends, right? Like he was going to maybe be your boyfriend, but didn't really work out.
Starting point is 00:22:55 We tried. And it's really hard because I know Chris said that we have kids in the house, out of the house all grown up. Yeah. But it's hard when you have a family because you have to remove yourself from that. And you also have to open yourself up to having feelings for another man. Yeah. And you didn't feel like you could do that? And I tried.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah. But I just couldn't get there. Right. And do you think, let me ask you this, do you think it was the guy or do you think it's that you just don't need that in your life or like not interested in anything more than what you have. Well, this fellow is super nice. I mean, just a good guy. Yeah. But he was never that fully interested in my life. Uh-huh. You know, he never, like we get together, talk about his child or his life, what happened with him during the day. And it ended up him never asking about my, about me or about Chris or, and it just wasn't, wasn't working for me. And then I also had the problem with
Starting point is 00:24:00 Chris is my man. Well, listen, you're lucky because I was just about, like, when you're sitting there describing that guy, I'm like, yeah, what he was was a regular guy. You happen to find one of those really good guys. It's a smaller percentage, right? Like, I mean, they're not common. They're not, they're out there, right? I know guys like your husband, but it's not the majority, right?
Starting point is 00:24:21 The majority of guys are like that guy who you knocked on the door, right? But when you have a guy like yours, right? it's going to take like another guy like that to really get you going and have, you know, because you're used to that. You're used to someone paying attention to you. You're used to that kind of relationship and you don't find that much with regular guys, right? So they're not going to get you horny because you're used to having all that attention and being asked the questions, right?
Starting point is 00:24:49 So it's just like, unless you're into being degraded, you're like, you know, there's a time in place for that. Yeah, exactly. But for the relationship part, I totally, I totally understand it. So it would have to be. You'd have to meet a guy, you know, more like the breed. To me, it's like a breed of dog, right? It's like a breed of guy, you know, and your husband is a certain type.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I know that type. He's a, yeah. And you would have to, I think, find that same pedigree if you wanted to have the quote unquote boyfriend on the side. Correct. You know, do you need it? I don't need it. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:23 I don't need it. Yeah. When you have that pedigree, you don't really. need more as a woman, right? Right. And especially as you get older. And you guys got to have eight kids. I can't even.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I have one. I can't imagine two, let alone eight. But anyway, let's get back to your bad stories, your couple bad stories. What did you say that there's been a couple times he said something up and it went,
Starting point is 00:25:45 it's not, it wasn't so great. Right. Chris had found a fella and he was black. And there are sometimes when I've asked Chris, let's go meet them first. you know, maybe for five minutes, let's just go meet him in a parking lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Just so, you know, a day before, just for the safety factor. And so we went, both of us went, we met him, and he seemed genuinely nice and open. And so we went ahead with, okay, let's get a hotel room for the following day. The following day, I meet him at the hotel. And he comes out of the hotel from getting the room and it says, hey, I'm 20 bucks short. I was just about to ask, by the way, who pays for these hotel rooms? Do you split it? What is the protocol?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Like, how does it work? Well, like, most of the time, the man will pay for it. Yeah. Or, you know, if it's the couples, we split or, you know, if you know you're going to meet more than once, you pick up this time, they'll pick up next time. Okay. So he was supposed to pay and he's 20 bucks short. Yeah. So I give him 20 bucks.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I'm thinking, okay. You know, yeah. maybe maybe he just you know whatever he's yeah okay and so we get to the room and he's like I'd like to give you a massage first so I undress got down got on the bed and he started giving me massage five minutes into it I hear a knock on the door and I hear a lady as if she's in the room standing and she goes excuse me this is housekeeping your door is open and there's a fellow's been standing out here listening into everything is that your husband I freaked out.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm like, you know, because you don't know, okay? Oh, because your husband's not there, right? No,
Starting point is 00:27:29 he's at work. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. So I'm freaking out thinking, okay, there's somebody he's going to invite in,
Starting point is 00:27:36 you know, without my knowledge. Yeah. Which is a no-go. Yeah. So he hops. I mean, he was still dressed.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So he goes to the door and tells her, oh, really, you know, who was this? And he closes the door. While he's doing that, I'm getting dressed because I'm already like, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yeah. That's smart. Yeah, totally. I'm out. So he gets in front of me when I try to leave the room and says, what are you doing? I said, I'm leaving. I am not comfortable. This is, why would you not close your hotel door?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah. You know, he was the one behind me. You know, you just instinctively think somebody's going to close the door. Yeah. You're like, this is a fucking setup for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So I get past him.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You know, I push him out of the way. I get past him. And I start to go down the stairs of the hotel room. And this jerk jump jumps in. front of me, puts his arms on the hallway and says, please don't go, please don't go. Come on. Everything is fine. Just go back to the room. And I said, get that fuck out of my way. Yeah. And I pushed him again and he got out. Then he did it one more time. Yeah, that's come. Get back to the room. Get out to the room. I said, that's enough. I carry a gun. Get the hell out of my
Starting point is 00:28:44 way. And did you actually have a gun with you by the way? Yes. Okay. I always do. I can you'll carry. I have a license. I'm cool. Okay, okay. That's smart. I mean, listen, we're going to meet guys like that, you know. You never know. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because look at this. Like you said, he seemed like he was a nice guy. Like, I get like, in that kind of situation, right, when the guys like keeps trapping you in the staircase, you're like, you know, it's a 50, 50 chance. Either he's going to turn into a psychopath
Starting point is 00:29:10 and bring you back and, like, do something really bad. Or he's just like freaking out because, like, this is a guy that was about to get to fuck a woman, a guy's, husband, you know, it's like a fantasy become true and he's losing it. So it could be like it's at a desperation, right? It's like either one of the two is going on. And I wasn't going to flip a coin. No, you can't. Get out of my way. Yeah, you can't in that kind of situation. And, you know, I left, never, never talked to him again. Right. Oh my God. That is, but that's a little scary. What was the other? Was there another one that you said happened? Oh, there was another one where Chris had set up
Starting point is 00:29:50 not necessarily a gang bang but he had guys coming to a hotel room while he was there with me one right after the other and at the time I was blindfolded and one would come in and you know because he had vetted these people out you know unfortunately one slipped through
Starting point is 00:30:09 and oh my God he stunk so bad oh my God and I'm like you know can't do it not doing it like because you don't have You can't even see, but you could smell him. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I, you know, I trust Chris with everything.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah. But that one was just, I couldn't do it. How many guys, by the way, like in a situation like that, right? And I want to get into like the details about your gangbangs and stuff because, like, I have to say, like, my listeners love to hear from women, especially women like you who are super open and, you know, into things sexually. you know and willing that and willing to talk about it right so they like kind of like the details I think they feel like a lot of times I cock block it because I'm like talking about all these other things but like in a situation like that where you have it set up where so many guys are coming in like how many guys did you fuck that in that night do you remember there was just there there
Starting point is 00:31:07 was including Chris there was five there was just I can't believe you used the word just well I mean I mean you know some women out there have done way more but they weren't all out once right you know like one would arrive yeah then a little bit later another one would yeah but
Starting point is 00:31:29 we have done the gangbangs twice with some fellas they were black guys yeah and they were the same guys each time and how many of those
Starting point is 00:31:44 how many were there were there was five So five black guys and you. You're like Christine. That's like one of my most popular episodes. Christine, I think I talked about it with your husband too. I got in trouble because I used the word.
Starting point is 00:31:58 There's somebody on my reviews that wrote like, I'm done listening because she used the word black in the title. But it was like a, it was specific. Like that's what she wanted. You know what I mean? Like just like you're saying it. You're saying it because it's like it was a specific thing that you wanted at that time.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Right. Right. And let's be honest. It's considered taboo whether you're white or black. Right. Or Asian or whatever, you know? Right. So you had five black guys.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Right. And how do you vet them? You say that he sort of sets everything up. Do you look at them? Is it always like they have to be super tall, not small? Well, we had, we had friended two of the fellas a while ago, a long time ago. Yeah. And it had been with them multiple times.
Starting point is 00:32:46 times. And we pretty much trusted them. And they brought the other ones in. Right. Right. And now do you like when you're doing like the gang bang, I want to like sort of analyze these two scenarios. Let's start with the gang bang with the five black guys. First of all, let's give, but let's also paint the picture of you by the way. I've, I used to always ask my callers like what would they rate themselves on a one to 10? And I think when you're listening, when people are listening to a woman, they kind of want to get a visual of you. So like, what are you on a one to 10? What?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Would you give yourself? I should have asked your husband. He would have given you a 10.5. Yeah, he would probably rate me higher because I have, you know. Yeah. I'm a solid eight and a half, solid. Eight and a half is good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I think seven is average. So eight and a half is hot, right? And like what are your steps? Do you have big tits, like a great ass? I have, I have 34 double Ds. And they're real or fake? Yes. Real?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Nope. Everything about me is. Real. Real huge tips. Real. Yeah. These guys must be so happy when you show up. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And I go to the gym five times a week. I'm. So you look really good. Five times a week. I don't even go to the gym five times a week. That's really fucking good. Yeah. We got to talk later about how you still get like horny because you're like you should be
Starting point is 00:34:05 heading into. Oh, I know. I started that. I started that perry stuff. I tell you. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Whatever. The hot flashes and crap. Yeah. Let's not ruin it. Let's not ruin. these hot stories with that talk. So wait, so here you are, like, you're totally fit. You have huge tits, right?
Starting point is 00:34:23 And they're natural. You got five guys coming in and out. Like, how many hours does one of these, does the gangbangs last for? Oh, probably two to three hours. Right. And you're just getting fucked. Do you take breaks? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah. Definitely need breaks. Right. And they're all using condoms? Some did, some didn't. Now, how do you vet the people that don't? And why do some don't? Well, we, that was just, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:34:56 not very smart of myself. Right. You know, after I had done that a few times, I waited a while, then I went and got all the testing done, you know. And you were fine. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. Listen, I mean, I have to say,
Starting point is 00:35:10 it's like good that you're being honest about that, right? And I just think, and I just think, And I talk about this a lot of my podcast. I'm trying to get advertisers for my show. And I'm like, I should just have a condom company because I could pitch them like nobody's business because so many people don't use condoms. And it's crazy. And I get it because there is a big difference.
Starting point is 00:35:27 But I think if you find the right condom to me, lifestyle, the gray thing, there's like, they're so good. But there, it's so many people don't. I think the majority of people don't. And in the heat of the moment, I always say like when you're fucking horny, it's like you're drunk, right? You don't have your rational. thought process. It's not the same. You're in a different state of being, right? So people make...
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, you want it. Yeah, people make dumb choices all the time and most people don't use fucking condoms. It's just the way that it goes, you know? Right. So I get that. So that time you did in and there were like five guys and do they all do you at once? Have you ever done double penetration? I've tried that. And you know, as a woman, you have to be prepared. I know Chris makes fun of me all the time because I say, hey, I got to be prepared. You're anal, right? Yeah, come on. Yeah, you have to. Yes, it's a totally different. And you have to be really turned.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I always liked anal. I think he explained you being into anal. And I was like, yeah, I totally get that because he was like, oh, you know, she only wants it sometimes. But when she does, she loves it. It was like that was just like the way I always was with anal. I really liked it. But it wasn't something that I wanted to do every day.
Starting point is 00:36:34 It's not an everyday thing. And you have to be really turned on. Right? Really turned on, really relaxed. Yeah. And basically not give a crap. Yeah. Technically not.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. Exactly. But so that, right. So double penetration, you're doing anal. So you tried it a couple times. Did you like it or it just wasn't your thing? It was just, it was just hard with the size of the dick.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. So now when you're doing that gang bang, are you like blowing one guy and another guy fucking you? Like, are you just in all kinds of different positions? Like what goes down?
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah. All sorts of positions. All sorts of positions. Hands everywhere. It's funny because one of them, this guy was holding a number. other guy's hand and didn't even realize it because he was like he was really into it and he was someone feeling like this dude you got my hand not hurt oh my god hilarious so there so you have tons of
Starting point is 00:37:24 guys on you and is that the turn on is that what you like to be sort of taken by all these guys i like that but the also the other turn on is having chris watch right because your guy is there watching right i am a huge pleaser and if i know i am pleasing chris you know It's a turn on. Right. It's a turn on for you. And sometimes he videotapes it too. Are you, is he videotaping all these things?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Then do you watch it later? I don't. He'll show me little snippets. I'm not. I don't, you know, I don't need to watch it. It's not a turn on? Some of it is. I would think it would be because, but I'm a very visual person.
Starting point is 00:38:02 So stuff like that would turn me on like if you could watch it back. Like, so I would totally get that. But I think some people are, or that way or some people, you know, everyone's turned on different ways, right? Some people are turned on really by what they hear. Some people are very turned on by what they see. Right. It's all different kinds of people, right?
Starting point is 00:38:19 Right. Well, I know this past weekend we were with a couple. Oh, yeah. I remember he told me that you were doing something this weekend. And we videotaped some of it, took pictures. And I tell you what, when we rewatched it, I mean, I watched it. That was hot. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:38:34 So what went down this weekend? Oh, well, I have never seen Chris be fully bisexual. You haven't? I thought that he, okay, because I was going to get into that about how when he brought it up. Because listen, it was so weird to hear that, like, because here you are a couple able to talk about anything from the get-go, super open with each other, right? But yet he kept his bisexuality sort of under wraps because I think he said you had kind of made a comment at some point, right? That made him feel like, oh, you wouldn't accept it, right? So he just kept that at bay and then eventually admitted it to you. And you, and I'm just saying this in case people didn't listen to you. his episode yet. The backstory is that you got really turned on by it when he started to play with other guys and didn't realize that about yourself, right? It was something that you actually liked.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah, I didn't. It's been less than a year that he's come out to me. But early on in our relationship, there were comments made. And I thought, you know, that's just not, that's gross. That's gross. Because, you know, in my mind, bisexual, or even gay guys, you know, there are the preppy, high-pitched, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:43 More feminine, effeminate. Yeah. I don't want to see two of those going at it. No, you like guys. You like manly men. So it would be the opposite. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And when Chris is every bit of the manly man. Yeah. So, you know, I don't, I wasn't even, I can't say I wasn't expecting it when he came out to me because there had been maybe little signs along the way. You know, him wanting me to videotape if I go out with someone. and come back to him, you know, he wants to see the videotape. He wants to, or when he videos, it's up close and personal, you know, you see the, the cock going inside you and all that stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Exactly. I, that's what I, I would ask people, because I, you know, doing my podcast, I heard from more and more couples or people out there that talked about, you know, liking seeing their partners with somebody else, whether there's women or men. And I always wondered if, like, you know, across the board, that would mean that you're bisexual at some level, right, because you do want to see that other person, right? So like you even thought that him liking to see that meant maybe he was by or liked cock, right?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Because he wants to want the close up. Right. Or when I would come home and like with the quote unquote boyfriend, he did not use a condom with me. Yeah. And I would come home and I would still have him in me and Chris would go down on me. Oh, so he liked to take that just. What is that called?
Starting point is 00:41:03 The cream pie? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, so you know, there are little subtle hints. along the way. Yeah. And then when he came out,
Starting point is 00:41:12 I wasn't floored. Right. But I was more, okay, well, this is, you know, it kind of rearranges
Starting point is 00:41:19 your thinking on it. You know, where I'm thinking there's these feminine men that are bisexual and gay. And, but like I said, Chris is a man.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And he's by. So maybe this could be something that you could be into because it's not, you're going to be maybe with two manly men that are like into it. So it got intriguing.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And, And, you know, I said, well, if you feel you want to go out, do it, you know. So he does and he videotapes it. And I found it erotic. You did the first time. I did. That's so interesting, right? Because it must have been interesting to you, right?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Because you didn't even realize that you would feel that way. Right. And it was just, I guess there's an underlying feeling, too. Chris was being open with me. Right. Completely honest. And that's a turn on. Let me ask you this, though.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Was there any part of you that was like, why the, like, was weirded out that he had this secret that he never told you? No, I wasn't weirded out. Chris had a hairy upbringing, let's just say that. Right. So you understood it. Yeah. And I think that he's, he'd never had the opportunity to be open. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And be himself. Uh-huh. and then he came out to me about what happened to him when it was younger. Yeah, which we talked about. If someone wants to hear about that, they could listen to his episode, right? Right. And then he came out with this.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And it's just, like I said, he's being himself. Yeah, no, you understood. And like I told you earlier, I like to please him. Mm-hmm. And now I'm allowing him to be himself. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:01 So you really saw, I mean, listen, you guys have that kind of relationship where you're like best friends, right? that's like your friend. So you could really understand why. And listen, your husband said like he was always monogamous with you, right? And he's never done anything behind your back. And I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:14 when you've been with someone for a couple of years, I mean, you could trust him, right? So you knew he wasn't doing anything behind your back. Right. Right. It wasn't like that. I think that in some other,
Starting point is 00:43:26 like in other couples were if the husband were to come out, I think one of the like, because I know for me, like say I was with a guy and like out of nowhere, he was like, oh, I'm by you know I'd be like okay so if that's the case like were you with the past 10 years got you know and that would be maybe something someone would think about and be nervous about right but you were so close with your husband and you guys are so open you kind of had that security of knowing that he's just telling you something new about himself that he had to keep under wraps right and we we knew all long we were both
Starting point is 00:43:56 very sexual yeah people yeah so him coming out was not I want to say it wasn't that big of a Right, that's good. So now, so he didn't tell you, like, he only told you like a couple, like not even a year ago. So he's dabbled with guys in front of you, but never full on like this weekend. Is that what you were saying? Well, he had done a few and like he would go away to work and be gone for days at a time and he would meet up with people. And he said he'd send me video back. And then I told him once, you know, I'd really like to be there. I'd really like to watch it. Yeah. You experience it firsthand. And so he had. He'd send, he'd send me video back. And then I told him once, you know, I'd really like to be there. I'd really like to watch it. Yeah. experience it firsthand. And so he had gotten a fellow that he had been with. And he hadn't seen him in a long time because this was, he had been with him before me. Oh, like before you guys were even together. Right. Oh, okay. Interesting. And we went and the guy just, he, I don't know if it was nerves because there's a woman watching, but the guy just couldn't get it up. So this wasn't, this weekend this was another time in the beginning. No, this was another time.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah. And he couldn't. Well, since then I've been saying, you know, I mean, the fellow was great, nice, you know. Yeah. It happens to fellas. It's not a big deal. But, you know, I told him, I said, I really want to see it. Well, we found this couple and we, this is our second meeting with them.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And we went out this weekend. And I got to see it. And so the couple was totally by, right? I think he brought it up that he had met this couple. but you guys had it. Your first meeting, you didn't hook up with them? Yeah, first meeting we hooked up, but it was just like an all play type thing, but no mail-on-male. So what happens in an all-play type thing where you just do a swap like you got you both fuck each other's husbands?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Like what goes down in that first meeting? Well, in the first meeting, I went down. She was kind of like the, I would say a dominant person, the first meeting. and she told me what to do with her husband. And so I went, I blew him. And then Chris and her started playing around. And then she came over and was with me and her husband. And then Chris came over and he was with me.
Starting point is 00:46:13 He was with her. I mean, it was just like a free for all on everything. Except for them. Now was that guy like was that guy ever been with another guy? No. Right. He had never. Yeah, he mentioned something about popping some cherries.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I was like, oh, I think maybe that guy, this was the guy's first time, right? Right. And I think it was good that it didn't happen the first time because everybody got comfortable with one another. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And there was a lot of talk back and forth from that meeting to this past weekend. Mm-hmm. And both of us females wanted to see it. Right. And now because she had never seen her husband, right? because he had never done it before, but he was curious, like by curious? Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And he had never been with a guy? Never been with a guy. Mm-hmm. And so this meeting kind of started the same way. I blew her husband and her and Chris started messing around. And then her and I kind of looked at each other and said, well, it's your fellow's turn. So Chris laid on his stomach and I lubed Chris up and then I lubed the other fella up. and then I guided him in slowly, of course,
Starting point is 00:47:28 because this guy, he's a thick fella. And they started going at it, and then I looved my finger up, and I stuck my finger in his ass. Oh, so you got, so Chris is a bottom, right? We discussed this. And it turns out that this guy is a top?
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's a top, yeah. That's good, because those are hard to find, right? This is what I'm learning on my show. Right. There's more bottoms than there are tops, right? Right. And I don't know that Chris, or not Chris,
Starting point is 00:47:54 but the other fella, if he knows exactly what he is yet, because this is his first meeting. Right, exactly. But I know he wanted me to stick my finger in his ass. Okay, so he was topping and bottoming, kind of. So you're like fingering his ass while he's fucking your husband in the ass. And what's the other woman doing videotape? Right.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Well, she was just watching. Yeah. And then Chris told me to come around and I laid down and Chris ate me out while he was getting screwed. And then she and I took turns. getting getting going having your husband go down on you like right he went down on her he went down on you that kind of thing right right and then when this fella had he actually came twice and so when they finished they went into the shower and her and I sat and we were talking and they hollered for us and we go in there and they're fucking in the shower again now is it the same thing your husband's on
Starting point is 00:48:48 the bottom and he's topping him right yep so he liked it that kind of guy. Right. Yeah. And it was hot to see them in the shower because this was without us women involved, you know? Right. They were doing that like with each other. So you really knew it's like not sort of set up, which is hot to you guys. Right. Right. And now did you fool around with the girl? Is the wife by two or she by curious? She's by curious. And I, we made out while the guys were screwing us. And yeah, but you know, in touching, but nothing more than that. Right. And now did she love. seeing her husband because it was obviously her first time seeing it as well did she have the same reaction that you had to her first time well she was she was kind of hard to read but afterwards you know
Starting point is 00:49:34 after the conversations after we left yeah he she was all for it and she was ready to go peg him well i was going to say yeah maybe the next time you have that you have like a strap on right and then right you could have two strap-ons like who knows what kind of isn't it called a train i don't know Yeah. Right? Everyone could be having anal. I don't know who's going to be on the end. Who's going to be the last person on the show?
Starting point is 00:49:58 Because you like anal sex sometimes, right? So you could be pegging someone, her guy in the ass, and then she could be pegging you in the ass. Right? Oh, I don't know if that would be a good video or a hilarious video. I don't know. I think if you're really horny, it would be a good video. I think if you're not horny at all, it would be interesting just to watch. It's like food.
Starting point is 00:50:20 If you smell garlic and you're not hungry. It's like gross, but if like you're really like, you know what I mean? If you're starving and smells like the most delicious thing you've ever smells, right? Yeah. But yeah, did you videotape that scenario? We videotaped some of it. Yes. And that's what I said I watched.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Oh, right. And it was a turn on. Yeah. Yeah. And what did you get turned on that you saw? Was it when they were fucking each other and your husband was going down on you or when you were fucking the other guy? It was everything.
Starting point is 00:50:50 It was just, I mean, it's very hard to find one like-minded person. Yeah. But when you find there's four of you all together, it's just doesn't happen very often. Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, like this is a, and do they live close to you and stuff? Like, this is a couple that you could play together with more. Yes, yes. So they're in your neighborhood. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Or within the same city. So, yeah. Right. Oh, that's great. And now what do they look like? What's their hotness level? Oh, they're both hot. And are they around the same age?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah, same exact age. She has fake tits. And he's wide. Yeah. He's thick. Both fit. Yeah. Both in shape.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And where'd you meet them again? Did you tell me? Chris found them on a fet life, I believe it was. Yeah. Chris is the one with the imagination that sets all these things up. Like how hot was it that he set up that you were going to be blindfolded and not even know and get fucked by a guy and then he'd leave and you'd never know what he's. look like. That was super hot because you, you know, I put my full trust in Chris. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And, and the sex was awesome. Right. Because I had him and Chris. And yeah, it was a win-win for me.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And now you guys are into BDSM. We didn't really get into it that much, right? But you guys have dabbled in that with a couple guys that he knows, right? We have like two of the fellows of the gang bang. Gang. Right. Yeah. They had tied me up before. So you're, because you're a little submissive when it comes to all this stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:52:27 Anyway, right? You're definitely like maybe the sub in the situation. So when you do the BDS and play, that's who you are and what do you like to do? I like to do whatever I'm told to do. Oh, right. That's how it goes. That's the correct answer.
Starting point is 00:52:42 No, I like being, I like being tied up because I lose control. Mm-hmm. You know, I have no control over anything. thing. That's probably why you like the blindfolded thing, right? Right. And I also like it when Chris chokes, chokes me. Right. Okay. That's like a thing that people like, right? But you like it to the
Starting point is 00:53:00 point where it's like, I don't know, supposedly there's that thing where like if you choke long enough, you kind of get, I don't know, what is it called? Right. Because sometimes like a euphoria or. Yeah. Do you go that far? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a little dangerous, isn't it? It, it is. Right. And there are times, you know, my tap him like okay that's it i don't want anymore but what happens like how does it how does it work so so like he chokes you so much that you start to like get like almost high or some sort of yeah or lightheaded and yeah and and it feels really good it does but then you almost hit a point where you know if you go any further it might not be healthy yeah that's a little scary that's how people have died right it's a couple celebrities like you hear about that the celebrities of the news i'm sure there's other people
Starting point is 00:53:43 that aren't celebrities that's happened to right um um I forget what it's called, but it is like something that a lot of people, I think, practice that get turned out by. Yeah, be careful with that. Right. I mean, I get it. It's because it's like when you're like I said in the heat of the passion, right? It's like you just do things without thinking because you're just so horny. Because it's hot and yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Yeah. And so you like to be, like how far do you take the BDSM? Like is it, do you do it really hardcore or are you into like light BDSM? I think we're somewhere. in the middle. Like, I've been beat with a leather belt. You know, I've, the chains, I've done, I've done a lot. Let me ask you this. Does anyone in your life know about this, this kind of stuff that you are into? No. Other than Chris. Right. Like none of your girlfriends, do you have any sisters or brothers or no family, people that you're close with? No one. Do you know what? That just,
Starting point is 00:54:46 there is one person who knows someone. of this stuff because Chris even forgot about this. Chris did go play once. I would say nine, 10 months ago. When we decided, yeah, if you want to try being with a woman, it was with a friend. Yeah. Yeah. He went. I mean, so she knows that. Your friend? Pardon. It was both of our friends. Yeah. We've known for years. Yeah. But how does that conversation come up? So if your friend doesn't know anything. Who goes up to the friend and says, hey, we want to fuck you. You know, like, well, I did. It was just him. Right. Okay. Yeah. But who tells her like, oh, he wants to fuck you, right? If she's just a friend and doesn't know anything and why this
Starting point is 00:55:29 friend, was she super hot? Was she the one that you thought would be into it? I think that, I think it was just someone we were both comfortable with. More so than being hot, we were both comfortable with her. And this would be Chris's first. on his own. Oh, this was going to be the first time he was going to play with another woman. Now, was she married or had a boyfriend? No, she was divorced. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:52 So it's your, you're both of your friends. You're both comfortable. So this is the first time he's going to play. He was probably more comfortable with that because, you know, was someone that you knew. Right. And Chris was the one who initiated the contact. And then I talked with her and told her, you know, this is okay. I know it sounds odd, but it's okay with me.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And what was not the norm? Right. And did it take a little coaxing or was she like down? I think she was down pretty quick. Right. Interesting. That's so funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And she's hot. Was she good? Like is she hot too? She's normal. She's normal. Right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And did he video? Like, so you were there, right? And it's your friend. No. So when you know, did he take pictures or video? No. Okay. And was it a one time deal?
Starting point is 00:56:37 It was a one time deal. Yeah. And was it good? I think he said, I think he had fun. Did you ever talk to the girl after about it? Or was it like the next time you guys hung out, it was like you just pretend it didn't happen? Yeah, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I've not said anything to her. And even with that said, there is a friend that we have that I've played with. And there's a hot scenario with that. A guy? We have time. We have time. We're not even at an hour yet.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Okay. Well, Chris had messaged me once and he said, hey, go over to such and such's house. and that was our friend. He said, and meet him in the garage. And this is a single guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Okay. And so I went over to his garage. And the first time I hadn't, I never played with him. So we played and Chris told me before I went there, he said, now after you're done, you call me immediately before you leave his driveway.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So we played. I called him and he said, meet me at the warehouse. We had keys to a warehouse. So I went straight from his house. to the warehouse and Chris tied me up at the warehouse and told me how bad I was and then fucked me.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Oh, so it was like you were so naughty to fuck his friend kind of thing. Yeah. And that was like hot. Yeah. And isn't that the cuckling thing? Like for him, isn't that like a part of the cuckled? Like you went and did this thing, right? And it's hot.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And for you, you like to maybe the naughtiness of it. Yeah. Yep. The naughtiness of it. And then, and I get it twice then. Yeah, totally, right? And now that guy, because he's a friend, do you wind up seeing him after? I saw him once more.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And he just didn't float my boat. No. But we see him all the time, you know, at least three times a month. Right. And but there's just no talk about it. He knows he fucked you. It's fine. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:34 So there are people that know that. I mean, you have two friends. You're still friends with the woman, right? And the guy. Right. Oh, yeah. Right. So people definitely sort of know.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Now, are there any rules and regulations that you guys have? Not really, no. No, right? You know, other than you got to be attracted to the person. You have to be, you know, how do I want to say? You have to be not only attracted, but know that they're a normal person, no psychotic crap going on. Yeah, you don't want like that episode with the guy in the staircase. You don't want anyone sketchy.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah, which, by the way, I've never went back to a hotel room by myself after that. Yeah, that's smart, right? Yeah. Because even if you got that gone, it doesn't matter, right? I mean, and you really are putting yourself in a position where that, if that was a setup, right, say it was like that 50-50, it was like the, you know, he was looking to have something about, you know, if you were down two to one, two guys against you, I mean, it would be really hard for you to. get out of that situation. Right. You know, if it was another guy and he did come into the room and those two guys were in
Starting point is 00:59:47 cahoots, like you could have been raped. Right. Yep. Right. And that's not hot. You like to be raped. Yeah. You want to be raped, but in like a hot scenario, you don't want to be really raped.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Right. I mean, you know, Chris, I mean, sets up all these things. He's the one with imagination. How great is that for you to sort of like sit back and just like have these scenarios played out for you? you and you don't even have to put them together. And they're like surprises. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It's like, oh, what am I going to do today? Yeah. I mean, that blindfolded thing and you like to be blindfolded thing. You know, and he sits up the gangbanks. He knows these people. Now, when is the next time that you're going to meet up with this couple? I don't know. I mean, this just happened this past weekend.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And we all chatted since then. So we know it's going to happen again. We just, you know. Right. And this guy is still, maybe he is a top because he tried it. Does he want it? Like, would. Chris wind up doing him as well if the guy wanted to, would he top if like just to get the other guy off or is that not how it goes?
Starting point is 01:00:48 I don't know. I don't. Yeah, I could have asked him. Yeah. I should have asked him that. Yeah. I think he's more of the bottom. Right. Mm-hmm. Because he, like I said before, back to Chris, he's a manly man. And this is a chance where he doesn't have to be a manly man. Yeah, that's what he said. That's where he likes to be a little bit of a submissive because he's more. that in control person at all other times, right? Right. And now what about you? Because you're a sub in this, you like to be a sub too, right? And is that opposite of you in your regular life? No, I'm, yeah, you wouldn't, I'm pretty much the same all around. Right, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:31 You know, I'm the, I don't need the, of what's the word? I don't need the acclamation. I don't need, you know, I'm just kind of, go with the flow. Right. You're the easy one. I mean, I think that that's why you guys probably work, right?
Starting point is 01:01:45 When you have two doms together, it just doesn't work, right? Like two alphas don't really go, right? But if you got an alpha male, right, you would say maybe your husband's alpha? Yeah. Right? And you're more like go with the flow kind of person.
Starting point is 01:02:00 That's the right match. Right. And like I said before, Chris and I, we talk about everything. Yeah. And there's nothing. we hide from one another.
Starting point is 01:02:10 We're open about everything, everyday life stuff. Right. To sexual stuff. And I think a lot of couples aren't like that. Yeah, for sure. There's guys out there who would love to do things with their wife, but they don't, maybe one, they don't think their wife would like it. Or two, they don't want to rock the boat and ask her, hey, would you like to do something
Starting point is 01:02:32 different? Totally. Because they feel like a lot of women would be like, what the fuck's wrong with you? Or, you know, like, you know, like, you know, Like, and right. Yeah, that's why all the stuff, a lot of it is going, you know, down as a secret life. And that it's unfortunate, right? Because if those people got busted and their wives found out, like, they'd probably get divorced, right?
Starting point is 01:02:52 But yet, would the wife have been okay with it to be like, who knows, you know? So you understand sort of why the guy's not saying it. You also understand why the girl would be freaked out if she found out, right? But like, you know, and that's the kind of stuff I think that needs to be changed, right? Right. And I think the younger generation is different and they're more open and less likely to keep things under wrap. Right. And I think I think women too don't like to look at themselves as sexual. Well, because I think it was like you're a whore if you are. That was like that was what was put on us when we were younger.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Oh yeah. Right? For sure. It was like you're a fucking whore. Like look at the way women dress now and how they are. There's so much more free and like, you know, back in the day, if you dress like these people dress, you were a whore, right? Like, right? Now, like, just that's how women dress all the time. And I think it's much more acceptable. And I
Starting point is 01:03:48 think that things are changing for sure. But when we grew up, it was you had to keep that underrest because you would be considered a whore and no guy would want to date you. They'd fuck you. But it'd be very hard to find that guy that would take you home, right? And
Starting point is 01:04:04 there is that thing that goes down. Right. Right. And, and And women also, you know, when you first meet your man or your boyfriend or whoever, you know, you're always looking good and you're doing fun sex things. And then after a while, you give up on that. And you should never give up on that. Right. I'm 48 and I still send nudes to Chris. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:25 You know? But I think what why that works with you guys is because you have all those other things, right? I think when you really are open and really honest and really able to be yourself with each other, it just. create sort of a sex life that could always be evolving and changing and stay hot, right? Whereas because you're really super connected in the most intimate way, because there's nothing more intimate than being really who you are and totally naked with each other, right? And you're not just naked in physical sense. You're naked in every other way, right?
Starting point is 01:04:59 And that's what you guys. That's like true intimacy. And I think a lot of other relationships lack that because people keep stuff under wraps or they're uptight or all these other things. So they don't show up that way. And then the sex isn't as great. And if you, if you can be truly intimate with your partner, it's a whole other sexual level. Right. And look what happened to you guys. I mean, here you were thinking that you guys were completely intimate. And then you had this new thing thrown in. So you guys, this would keep you going for another 10 years, right? Because now he's by and you love it. And you're like,
Starting point is 01:05:32 oh, this is like something new to add to the table, right? Yeah. Well, is there anything before we go, is there anything left that like, because I know that Chris normally sets things up and he's the one with that like fucking imagination, right? And gets you into everything. Is there anything that you haven't done yet that you really want to do? Like, that's a fantasy that you haven't lived out yet?
Starting point is 01:05:54 Oh, gosh. Gosh, I'm trying to think. I love outdoor sex. And I think like with the like with the, with maybe being caught, that kind of a thing or just outdoor. like in the free. Just being outdoors underneath the stars.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. Yeah, it's just, it's a very freeing thing. And I think that would be cool with another couple. Mm-hmm. Anything outdoors,
Starting point is 01:06:21 doing anything outdoors is just hot. Right. So, Chris, you hear this? You need to set it up where you take her to the woods. Tell her to walk out, blindfold her self and, you know, tell her to wait.
Starting point is 01:06:32 We have done that together. What do you mean? Oh, with each other in the woods. Right. Okay. Yeah. But no, he needs to set it up where he drives you,
Starting point is 01:06:39 tells you where to go on a map and you go and you got to sit on the dirt road and then all of a sudden someone else drives up you're blindfolded right and you're gang raped you never know yeah but how crazy if a hunter walks up or somebody walks up to that oh my god you have to make sure you're really well hidden yeah well that or i better wear some hunter's orange or something so they see me exactly it's so funny anyway well thanks so much for calling in and telling us all your hot stories i like i said It's like my listeners are always begging me for more female callers because it's not as common, right? To have women, A, into these things and be willing to talk about it. So thanks so much for calling in and being so honest about all your stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Oh, you're very welcome. I had a ball. All right. Awesome. So glad. Thanks so much for calling. I'll talk to you soon. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:28 I'll air this Sunday just so you know, okay? Okay. All right. Bye, Wendy. Bye-bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and e-book,
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