Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 309 - Is Daisy being Ghosted by the Guy she's Dating?

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

Daisy (episode #299) calls in again to explain the details of her last dysfunctional relationship but winds up talking more about the major issues she’s having with the guy she’s “dating” now.  What happened when they last saw each other? Why hasn’t she heard from him? Is she totally being ghosted? Tune in to find out plus hear all about what kind of "relationship" they had before he disappeared, why they never had sex and whether he was lying about being monogamous, her lack of passion for relationships in general and how that could have caused him to stray plus a whole lot more about the ending of her last relationship. **If you want to hook up/date Daisy email her at [e-mail]. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Subscribing also really helps my show in that and for you it gives you the episodes just like on your phone and you get them earlier and people that don't subscribe. So today I have on a girl named Daisy. Now, Daisy was on a while ago.

We talked all about her ex-boyfriend as well as her bisexual tendencies. And then when we hung up with the phone, I had like a couple more questions. And I was just like, do you want to do another part two just to sort of so I could get my answers to those questions? Because she had some like weird stuff going on with her last relationship that we talked about. And she said, yeah. And we taped.

And we taped this podcast, I have to say, a long time ago. I have so many taped. And I just don't have time to air them. So people like get backed up. So I have an actual, another update that I'm going to give you at the end of this podcast because what we wound up discussing, we started to talk about like her ex-boyfriend and all the questions that I had. But we wound up talking more about her, the guy she was dating and what was going on

with that. And it turned into like one of those conversations that every girl has had with their friend. Either you're the friend that's giving the advice or getting was ghosted or you're the friend that is helping someone figure out whether they're ghosted. did because she was like dating this guy but he kind of like disappeared when we were talking and I gave her a lot of advice about that and that's what it turned into really a conversation about that and just the whole situation you'll come up to your own conclusions like I had a definite opinion as to whether like this guy was like fucking done and never going to talk to her again

and she had a different of opinion you'll form your own opinion after you listen and then at the the end of the show I'm going to let you know exactly what happened because it's so many months later that I taped this episode. So I actually, and I emailed her and found out what happens. I'll let you know. But take a listen. Think about what you think is going on and then see if you're right after you at the end. Oh my God.

What a piece of shit intro. But I don't have time to redo it. So I'll be right back on with Daisy. You just had a cocktail. So you're a little tipsy, right? Maybe. Yeah. It was probably like two and one.

But yeah. That's not bad. That's good. So I'll get the truth out of you for sure. So after we just spoke recently, right? And then after we spoke, I was like, hmm, she talked about like physical abuse on that podcast. And I, like, when I was editing it back, I was like, I can't believe I never sort of went to that place and talked about that a little bit more. And I had a lot of other questions.

And then when we email back and forth, you told me, like, you were, you were also, like, about to, like, you had this other crazy relationship that you just started that I was pegging as maybe being crazy because you had. this like, you know, people can listen to your podcast. You have this little pattern of dating people that are sort of like not available or not around, but around even when they're fucking around. And I was like, oh my God, you were starting one, but you were about to see him a bunch more, you know. So I was like, let's just get back on the call on the phone and do another maybe half episode and get a little updates and then figure out some other things because then you

were like, yeah, I actually remember that I did cheat on my guy. little bit more than I said. Oh my God. I know and I can't believe one of them. Right. One of them. So how many more are they? But like let me ask you this. Let's start. Okay, let's start with the, so with the ex-boyfriend first. That was the whole relationship that you had that was like really terrible. He was really super abusive. It actually got to the point where it was physical abusive. Like he choked you. Right? Like that's hardcore. You guys, you didn't leave him then, right? But you guys. You guys. You didn't leave him then, right? But you guys. did go into therapy. That's what I also thought was a little odd too, that you still see that your therapist now is the same therapist that you used to see with him. Does he go to the therapist? No. And I, I know that he cannot because I am. Right. But do you guys used to go to him together? We did. Is it weird? Or is he good with you? Is it a guy? Why do I think it's a guy? It's a guy. No, he's really good. Because we only went to. to him a handful of times, not even 10.

So he kind of knew what was going on and then he stopped for over a year. Oh, okay. I really, I actually really liked him because I think he, not to say that he chose size, but I think he saw it was happening a little bit more holistically than I did. So what word should you use? Holistically. What do you mean holistically? I mean, I know what that word means.

I've never heard it in terms of like in that kind of. sentence. I think he saw the entire picture. I think he saw that. Oh, holistically. Not like holistic, like health-wise. Oh, no, no, no, not like religious. I'm so bad at grammar that I wouldn't even know that holistically. Is that a word? Like that you saw the whole? Yeah, W-H-O-L, like the whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's how dumb I am. Okay. You're not dumb, please. But yeah, I think he saw the entirety of what was going on. I think because he is more familiar with domestic violence. So I think that conversation that we had that we referenced back in my original episode, when I said to him,

I don't want to be abused woman. And he said, well, do you think of yourself as that? And I think the reason that he asked me that question was to kind of get me to consider what was happening. And I believe in hindsight that I was probably still in kind of in denial as to what was going on or wanted to believe that, you know, he would change for the better, which is a common pattern in belief. Of course.

Yeah. So, mm-hmm. But did it get worse? The physical abuse. It didn't. That was the one-time thing? Yeah. Well, I guess, no, it was not a one-time thing.

Yeah, that's a weird thing that we didn't get into. Right. So it got worse. It didn't stop at that one time, right? I think we stopped the conversation. and we got into other things. But then when I was listening back, I was like, oh, my God. To that, like, I had a million questions about that because I'm like, that's like kind of

crazy, right, thing to happen. It was. And because I knew that you didn't break up with him. So, and you tend to think that those things aren't one-off situations, right? So he did it again? Yes. And it was awful because, well, he didn't like spit or choke beat or anything, but he kind of like got mad and like threw me out of the bed.

Right. Which was, you know, when you're naked, that's really not cool. And it was just, I had a really horrible day. And he just was being selfish because I didn't want to fuck him. And I was like, my life was in shambles. I don't want to fuck. But this was like that the breakup? But you guys were like, was this like the ending of your relationship like you guys

were always fighting around the way? No. So the very actually, on the day that we ended things, he was, he was, and I had forgotten about this until I was in therapy, but he was threatening me physically. and there was other people in our house, but they, like it was behind closed doors, which is where,

of course, it happens. But he, um, yeah, he was like, I should just take you outside right now, whoop your ass in front of everybody.

And I was just looking at him. And I was like, you're fucking crazy. Right. And I think the only reason why I even tried to stay and make it work is because I had, when everything kind of fell apart and blew up in my face, it was because I had just moved, um,

several states away. Right. You were buying all by, right. And I was kind of isolated. Yeah, well, I knew that too. And that's always, I mean, he was knew he was in total control at that point and that you couldn't go and that you couldn't go anywhere. Right. So.

And you didn't for a while, right. Yeah. And I did it. And I, but towards the end, I just didn't care. Like when he said that to me, I was just like, I kind of almost threw it back in his face. And I was like, go ahead, you know, because I knew, because I always. lot of his coworkers were at the party. We were having a party at our house.

Right, right. And so they were there. And I was like, go ahead and do it and see what happens to you. Because I knew, you know, that's, you're going to be fired. But if that didn't end your relationship and how long. Oh, that did end our relationship. Oh, that time. That was what that did.

Yeah. That's when you've planning on. Yeah. No, and I was just like looking at him and I thought he was acting crazy. Um, and I just looked at him and I realized that he, for a lot of reasons would never be on my side and he wouldn't change and he just was too controlling you know and I just I can't how long after you live there was that did that did you break up with him probably like 10 months oh okay so yeah it was a little bit of time um and I think the initial

incident happened when he choked me was probably like two or three months after I moved here and I would bring it up to him all the time. I don't even think he felt remorseful. And I don't know. I just, it's really sad to me because I feel like I got treated like shit and I never would have, would, like, I just would never treat somebody that way. So it's really harmful, like mentally for me. Yeah, of course.

But I mean, but, you know, you're so far out of it now and at a certain point, right? You have to look at a situation and say, why? Why did I stay, right? And I think we talked a lot about that then. You know what I mean? Like, why did you say? But I think, you know, like you said, you were, you had just put all this money in. You moved all the way there.

You were trying to make it work. There's a million reasons why you did, right? But it, besides the physical abuse. I was financially dependent. Right. But before the physical abuse, he wasn't nice. I mean, he wasn't nice a lot of the times before that, too. He had a lot of other red flags as well, right?

Right. So, you know, you got to say, like, like, oh, what's. But the day that you say enough, I've had enough and leave is the day that, you know, you're saying I've had enough physical abuse, emotional abuse. You know, you were finally able to end that for yourself. You know what I mean? And that was, that's great. But I know that he did always accuse you of cheating and you had cop to like one of your cheating, but you had cheated on him a lot more. You're going to be like, I can't believe you forgot about this. But, I, um, yes, probably in the first like two weeks of our relationship, I cheated on him with my ex-boyfriend.

But it was one of those, you know how people say that like you just kind of sleep with somebody and it has nothing to do with the people that you're with? It was just kind of us kind of like putting closure on our relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That did happen. That's what it was. Right. And I actually, even when I, you know, because I told you to confess a lot, I never confessed. that one to him. Thank God. Yeah.

It was like two weeks into your relationship. I mean, yeah. We were so long distance at that point. Exactly. And I knew that's nothing. Yeah, I wouldn't get that opportunity because that guy actually doesn't, he didn't even live, we didn't live in the same town anymore, but we had stayed friends. And then he just showed up.

And I couldn't believe it because he had a girlfriend, too, who he actually ended up marrying. But he told me at that day, he was like, I don't think I'm going to end up marrying her. We were talking about hanging out. as like couples and double dating at that time, but didn't work out. But yeah, we did. I forgot. We did have sex.

That was one of the times. Were there other times, too, that you forgot about? I did. I cheated with another one of my girlfriends. Hilarious. And that was his, I mean, the whole thing was that he always was accusing you of that, right? And you thought that. Yes.

Like, in a weird way, you made that seem like, oh, he had a problem that he was doing it. But I don't think that that was a part of. one of his problems. I mean, you were cheating on him. A couple of times, but those were, the first one, I know this sounds terrible, but the ex-boyfriend had nothing to do with him at all. Right. It was just, it really didn't. And we hadn't even seen each other because I told you, you know, we went on a couple dates, then we were talking in the phone. And then we were like, okay, we'll be in a relationship. And it was right after we kind of made that, we're going to be in a relationship that that incident happened. Right. But you did

cheat on him a couple of other times besides that one. and then another one of your girlfriends is what you said? Yes. And that one you forgot too when we first talked? I did forget about her because, but I feel like maybe we were in a break, but I can't remember. So I'm just going to err on we probably weren't.

But yeah, I did just kind of mess around with her. One time we were really drinking at our house. Is it not? Is it the one that you have the hookup coming up, the one that you always fooled around with? Because you had a really good friend that you always full around with. No, another friend. People have to listen to the first episode to hear all this other stuff, right?

Because you have like, you know, you have something in the books with your friend ahead of time, but you, in a relationship now. So that guy you did cheat on him a bunch of times. But you were the one who finally ended it that day with that fight when he, when all your coworkers were outside and he said, I'm going to go fucking beat your ass. Like you were the one that ended the relationship and that was over. I didn't say anything that day. But that was like the beginning of the end. Yeah, like that day, I just looked at him and I was like, because, you know, like I said, we had people at the house and I was just like, I'm not even getting into this right now. Yeah. I will get into this. But when I do like, I was just, I just looked at him and I was like, I'm fucking done. So, um, he initiated the conversation a couple days later. And I just looked at him and I was like, well, we've been broken up in my mind. You know, I didn't care. Um, so that's that, that, that was how it ended. And even, even then when I was trying to move out, he was convinced. you know, I asked him, do you want, I was trying to sell him some stuff that I bought. And he was just like, I would say, do you want this? And he said, no. And then I said, okay, great. And then he'd be like, what are you moving? And I wouldn't tell him because I didn't want him to know. And I was just like, don't worry about it. I hadn't locked down a lease at that time, but it was coming, you know. Yeah. And he literally, I haven't looked at the text in a year, but I remember he just turned it into, he was having a one-sided conversation with himself saying, why won't you tell me when you're leaving?

Are you even leaving? I don't think you are. Why would you want to stay with me? I don't want you. And I was just like, I don't want to be with you. And I just literally would refer him back. I'd be like, you're getting off subject. I just want to know if you want to buy this stuff.

Yeah, but listen. I mean, you got to understand. Okay. In the middle of a breakup, right? Like you're leaving a man. You're ending things with him. Like, of course he's going to be like going a little nutty. Like, who's going to keep it all business?

like, you know, it's a little bit more unrealistic that you would think that he's just going to keep it to, no, I don't want to buy it. Okay, $20 I'll give you and you guys are going to fucking negotiate. Like you're just, you're dumping him and leaving him. Or if he was doing the same thing to you, there's going to be, all I'm saying is there's like you got to expect a little bit of that drama. I mean, there's nothing weird. No, because he was saying, and again, he was, he wanted to be amicable. I wanted to be amicable. But amicable breakups are such bullshit to me. I just don't buy into amical break. This is the most ridiculous things. If you were in a relationship with somebody and it's ending, most of the time, it's a difficult thing on some level if you had any feelings for each other. So amical is just phony bullshit. You could be amical later down the line, but like he was trying to like beat the shit out of you.

You were like had it. He was a narcissist douchebag. You're like move there. Now you're leaving. He doesn't believe you. He's probably freaking out because he's losing control. You guys want to make it. That's just a that's like phony bullshit, you know.

So I ended up having to take the police to get my shit. Right. That's more like it. Yeah, I had to take the point. He acted psycho. He kept basically all of the furniture. I mean, he kept a bunch of my stuff just. And I don't know what he's doing.

And he still, and I, it's funny because we still have mutual friends and they all tell me how it, this is hilarious. But he's still going around like, oh, you know, we, you know, she would just do this, this and this, we could get back together and it's just like he hasn't gotten the memo. But I didn't expect it. He probably can't get the memo. Somebody like him, like controlling narcissists. They can't see the truth.

Do you understand? They can't be abandoned. They can't be dumped. They can't, you know, they can't, they will refuse to buy into that story. And he never will. He's just, his ego is too fragile. Do you understand to accept that? He cannot.

That actually makes a total sense. Yeah. He can't. So he never. will and that's why he couldn't believe that you were moving and he just his he can't he would shrivel up and die if he had to really face the reality of the fact that he was dumped you know it's just it's that it's not he's too much of a narcissist it's no it's not it's just that personality type so that just it makes sense that that's the way that he is that's the kind of person you

were dating you know what I mean he is a narcissist because um his boss Apparently he kept me as his in case of emergency person. Yeah. So earlier this year, his boss called me, but I didn't answer because I was busy. And because he's a nut job and the police got involved, I emailed the boss and she never said anything. And a couple of days later, he called me. And I didn't even recognize his voice. I hadn't heard from him in, you know, almost a year.

And when he said, oh, this is me. I was like, why the fuck are you calling me? Like, get off my phone. I, and I just basically said, if you call me again, I'm going to call the cops on you. And I did find out from a mutual friend that apparently he had almost died. So he was calling to tell me that his boss accidentally called me, which I was just like, he's fucking nuts. Like that I, he would even think that I care. And apparently he was very angry that I didn't care and haven't reached out to him and said, oh, I'm so sorry, you almost died.

but whatever. Yeah, because he lives in his own fantasy world. And, you know, where he's in control, he, everyone loves him. You know, there's no rejection. Oh, yeah. There's no rejection in his world. He can't deal. So that all makes sense, right?

But, you know, you dated him. You stayed with him for a while. You played that whole game with him. So, you know, you got to be like, eventually, I think that question to yourself, oh, I mean, you could read my book at the end of every fucking bad relationship. have. At some point I could look at it, but this is like years later, you know, and say, okay, what was my part in that? You know what I mean? You have to look and say what was wrong with fucking me there because why would I be with that type of person? You know what I mean? When there's

tons of guys that wouldn't be that way because he was an extreme and he was really not a good guy and he didn't treat you very well at all. And it wasn't like slightly not well. It was like really not well. But now you're dating a guy, right? Who to me, I saw these weird things. Like I saw these weird patterns that you hadn't seen before. And I kind of saw, right? Maybe they're like patterns where you just have these guys that always live long distance. Now, this guy isn't long distance. He lives by you. But you barely see each other. But I remember when we last spoke, you were just about to see him. Like, are you guys any more closer since we last spoke?

is like you're still seeing each other like once a month? Well, I've seen him twice since I spoke to you last. Okay. Okay. That's good. Yeah. I was going to say, I kind of figured out the pattern as to why. It was really funny.

I couldn't. So my dad worked a lot when I was a kid and I think I saw him just a couple times every week. Oh, was he like a consultant or something? No. Oh, okay. Okay. No, consultants like, they try.

from like Thursday to Sunday. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's just in kind of in a similar, I guess. Yeah. But anyway, he actually is in a very similar field as the ex-boyfriend. Right. And he, I think just because I didn't see my dad all the time, I started thinking about it.

I was like, why is it that I, like, I don't have a problem, you know, going days without seeing people. I like to see people every day. I like to, you know, be cuddly and lovey-dove with people. but I'm also like, oh, okay, it's fine. Like, I get it. You have a job and it takes a lot of time. And I think that's what it was. Both of my parents worked a lot when I was a kid.

Yeah, for sure. I think that that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the kind of relationship you saw, right, growing up. Yeah. And my mom always raised, like, us girls to think, like, you need to have your own career.

You know, you don't want to ever just, you don't want to be at the mercy of a man. Yeah, yeah. So I, that's why I'm very career oriented. So I feel like if somebody can't support my career, I won't count them out. I will count them out. And the same thing with this guy, because we are in the same field, it makes me, it's like, I, I understand that he has time away. But what I will say is I'm kind of mad at him right now. Why?

This is perfect timing then to talk. We were supposed to hang out on Sunday. And it didn't happen. And I haven't spoken to him since. And I just kind of like, how come? This I don't know. I called him and I was like,

no, I called him and he didn't call me back. And I was just like, that's weird because he usually always does. So I'm kind of mad at him right now. Wait, something's wrong there. The last time you hang out,

like you said, okay, let's hang out Sunday. Like, I mean, when did the- We talked on Saturday. And I was like, hey, like, what are you doing?

Like, what are your plans? And he was babysitting one of his nephews. But let me, no, no, I got to back up. Somebody just complained. I want to someone just left a review like, oh, she interrupts so much. I'm interrupting you so much. They're right. Sorry.

I have to, I have to rewind because this is like the little nitty-bitty. This is like a typical conversation that women have with women all the time. Okay. I'm going to analyze the moves to see why the fuck is going, what's going on with your fucking guy, okay? Okay. So the last time you saw him before setting up this date on Sunday was when? Uh, the Sunday.

Together. Okay. And you had a good time? Yeah. Okay. You did the night of my house. Okay. Great.

You had sex. Yeah. No, we didn't have sex. But we messed around. Why? He met my best friend. Okay. One of my best friends.

Oh, um, we didn't have sex because I don't have any columns in my house and he didn't have any with him. So I was like, okay. Okay. Okay, so you did everything else, but you didn't have sex because you didn't have condoms, right? Mm-hmm. Have you had sex with them yet? No.

No. Okay. And you've been with him for how long? I didn't say I'm with him, but we've been seeing each other since June. Yeah, that's a long time to not have sex. You know, you got to think, like, the reason why he's not, you know, begging for it is because he's probably getting late someplace else. I mean, what are the odds that he hasn't had sex since June? I asked him actually that day.

Yeah. he say absolutely not right of course yeah and I said why not I said are you he's just gonna lie to you you think he's a guy there's no way he's not fucking someone since June I asked him and I and I and I know I said are you fucking anybody else I asked him straight out of course you asked him that's normal we had a crazy like sex conversation the whole night and so I asked him and he's like are you fucking anybody else and what he's like I forgot to ask you and he's like no and I was like really really really And he's like, no. And I was like, why not?

And what he said? And he's like, because people are crazy. That was what his response was. Yeah, guys don't fuck because girls are crazy. The crazy girls are the best lays. Are you crazy? Give me a break. Nothing better than a crazy girl in bed.

Okay, listen, he's full of shit. He's of course not going to tell you that. But do you think that some guy is, it's June, June? You started seeing him in June. Okay. July, August, September, you really think he's gone all this time without having sex? You're out of your mind. No, I don't.

No, I don't. But I don't care if he has. Just be honest with me about it. No, he's not going to be honest. So many, I know, I get that. But, like, I have, I've had booty calls who, like, I totally talk to them about other girls. And I'll be like, oh, did you get laid? No, I didn't sleep with anyone. And you're the, I'm like, but we don't, I don't even like you.

Like, and they don't tell me. Like, guys, some people are just, most guys, I got to tell you, they just do not believe that you don't care. Because I think you would care, but I know that you say that you wouldn't. But even if you really 100% didn't, there's still not going to fucking tell you. It's just the way that it is. I don't care in the sense that. Exactly.

You would care. I don't want it to be messy. Like, I'd be like, oh, like, I don't know if I want to join into how many is your fuck pool. Right. So it would ruin things. So that's why I would tell you. Because I have, I've had multiple people in my fuck pool before being, you know,

honest about it. Just that's what I'm saying. Like it might not be something I necessarily like, but I'd like to know the truth. Why? If you're trying to have a relationship with the guy, either have sex with him and then you guys could be together. But there's no reason for you to know about other people now while you're still like, you guys haven't even like gotten intimate together.

So it's like, why should you know what's going on? I think that that would just poison a relationship. There's no need for that nonsense in the beginning of this because this is still like the beginning. You know what I mean? I'm going to push back on you. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, because I disagree.

I feel like... I like you with a cocktail in you. One on the side. But I'm just going to push back. Yeah, tell me. I feel like if you're dating somebody, you're just dating. You're not in a relationship. And my thing is, okay, cool.

If you like me and you like spending time with me and you want to get to know me, that's fine. We can have sex, but just be honest about what, you're doing elsewhere. I, to me, because I, I guess, you know, have been the victim

of getting an STD from somebody, I don't want to get, I don't want to go down that road again. And that's why I'm just like, just tell me, it's fine. He knows I'm pretty sexually liberal. So I don't get why he would hide it.

And I just don't think, to me, yeah, because if you're looking, okay, it's one thing if you just have a fuck buddy, right? But are you looking at this guy

and isn't he looking at you? Are you guys looking at you? Are you guys looking? at each other as a possible romantic partner? I look at him that way. I don't know how he looks at me. Okay, well, are you hoping that he's looking at you that way? Yes.

Okay, well, just so you know, if he is, he doesn't want to know if you're fucking somebody else. That's just, these are just like dating rule, like unspoking things, okay? You can push back all you want, but you're wrong. Okay, don't tell him. You just lie like you lied to the other one, okay? Cheat away, but don't fucking tell him that you're going to. going to be sleeping with your friend.

And like he, no one wants to know that stuff like the in the beginning like if it's the beginning. There's no reason for it. You're using condoms. So how are you going to get an STD? So you know, the condo, it's like those conversations about like being monogamous and you're not sleeping with anything, you know, and like we're not using a condom anymore. That happens when you become like a couple.

But before you become a real couple, right? And you know that you're just with each other. I don't think it's, you shouldn't really be talking. And because like it's it there's it's such a it's a loaded question. You could say that you don't care. Okay. But if he tells you, yeah. And then you don't know if he might like them.

And is he seeing them like he's seeing you? You know, there's just, then there's like a million other questions. Like why would you know that? Like right now he could be playing the field just like you could be. Most likely he is. And, and you know, and you might like, if you don't like move it with this guy along, you know, he might wind up moving along with somebody else. And that might have happened because you haven't heard from him since whatever.

I don't know. But I'm just saying like you have like, you know, it's kind of like you've been seeing him since June, but you've been seeing him very sporadically, not a lot, right? So I would say the chances of him seeing somebody else are very high. Interesting. It doesn't mean that it's somebody. He's always available whenever I ask him. Well, he wasn't available this weekend.

Well, he was, allegedly. And then he just, yeah. What happened? I have no idea. But I was too angry to like even, because I just feel like, I'm like, that's bullshit. Mostly because we're like working together on some stuff too. And I'm just like, that's annoying. Okay, but let me ask you this.

He leaves your, like, how has your relationship been since you started with him? You see him once in a blue moon. You text every single day. got. No. Um, but we've been seeing each other because I had to talk with him and I was like, I don't like how we're seeing each other every couple weeks. And I said, do you like this? And he said, no. And I was like, okay, let's change it. And he was like, okay, I'll, you know, I'm working to do that. And so we've been kind of increasing the frequency. Um, but what about the conversations though in between the meeting up? Like he leaves your house. Do you text message the next day or

do you text message three days later? It depends. But what is the norm? You've been seeing him since June. I mean, do you go the whole week? Do you, is it every three days? We can. Yeah.

Yeah, that's weird. I know. I feel like I, and then he'll just like come back and he'll be like, oh, like, what do you do it? And I'm like, oh, hey. But. Yeah, what do you think is going on in between those five days? You know what the thing is? I have no idea and I don't even think about it some of the time.

I know, but this is the problem. it is, I've been in so many fuck buddy relationships, I'm tired of it, so I figure, like, I don't want to start off this one that could actually have potential, like the fuck buddy relationships that I've had in the past. Right, but starting off a fuck buddy

relationship is just seeing someone and just having sex and not having, but this, but this is no different than a fuck buddy relationship because, but you're not having sex, but you're not having like an emotion, you're not doing what you need to do to build an emotional connection with somebody, which is,

is like, you know, you got to, you know, when people really like each other, they want to text. They want to get a text from someone that they like. They want to know that someone's thinking about them. You know what I mean? Right. This is like casual, no spark. It's not fun. And when something goes on a long time like that, it just loses its luster.

And like, you know, you have a window of opportunity in the beginning when you meet somebody to sort of like, you know, and you want to be. build things. And I just think if you're not building and you're keeping it the same, at least you brought it up that you want to see each other more. But like I would think that in this time, because it's been a couple months that, you know, other possibilities could have come around. And that's what happens when you leave that much space. I get your parents. You know what I mean? And I get that you are very cool with like not seeing someone. But I think sometimes, you know, when you start a relationship, a lot of times, you know, they're

hot and heavy in the beginning, as they should, because you meet someone, you like them. It's all that honeymoon shit, you know. Eventually that goes away and you have the goods to keep a long lasting relationship because you're like okay with like not being on someone's fucking back, right? But that's like the next 10 years of a relationship. But I don't think you're so good in the beginning honeymoon phase of relationship, which is, you know, you want to really fucking like somebody and someone wants to really like you and you're like all into you.

You know how your friend gets a boyfriend and then they just disappear for like eight months because they're with them all the time. That's the way it goes. You know what I mean? And I think both men and women like that. That's the reason why you settle down with someone because you feel that way about that person. You want to see. You know, if you're not giving him that and he's not giving you that, like, it's just like dull central. And I just think that, you know, it doesn't keep someone's attention.

You know what I mean? Maybe I've just been friend zoned. But it's not like he did. Like, listen, if you were friend zoned, you friend zoned yourself. No, you just fooled around with him. You know, you don't know what's going on. But like, so you just, like, so you just saw him, right? He left your house.

Did you guys text at all? Did he text you at all after that? We were actually supposed to go to lunch with my friend, like a couple days later. Uh-huh. But he couldn't make it because he was at work. he's a lawyer too. So he was in court and he couldn't come. Okay.

So you had lunch plans. He said, oh, by the way, I can't make it. And then when did it say? Like the day of. He was like, oh, shit. Like, they haven't called my case. And I was just like, I get it. I mean, court's unpredictable.

But did you know for sure it was true? No, because I'm not going to Google the docket. Okay, but I would have. But I don't know. I want to know. Can you Google? No, can you Google the docket? and just let me know because that could be a lie.

Okay, so the day of he fucking lies. I mean, I'll. Yes, I want you to. I don't even know what court he was in. Oh, okay. He didn't say I'm in this court and, you know, there's so many different types of courts, so many counties. Like, I don't know.

So he very well could lie and you would never know. And he knows that you know his, find out. Right. So. But he had an incentive to come. Like he should, I mean, he really had fun. he liked my friends and so I think he liked he was the one who recommended the place that we go to and I had been there before and I was like oh yeah this is great so all right but then the day comes and he's like oh by the way I'm sorry did he say let's reschedule no because my friend was leaving like that day oh she doesn't live here okay so then who makes the plans for the day that he doesn't show up like what when does that plan come to be to pass that he didn't show up on Saturday so that was all on Tuesday and then on Saturday um You texted him.

I had drunk dialed him that I was at, he was like, I was at home. And I was like, okay. And he called me back. And so we were just like chit-chatting. And I was like, oh, what are you doing? And he was like, I'm babysitting. I have no idea how long it's going to take. And I said, oh, okay, cool.

You know, do you want to do something tomorrow then? And he was like, sure, because we both love football and stuff. So I was like, do you want to watch some games? And he was like, yeah, that sounds great. And I was like, okay, great. So I guess I initiated it. Yeah, that's okay. Right.

I mean, I was like he's usually, he's like, he's usually kind of like a go with the flow type person. He's very laid back. Like I just more so than I'm really type A and I'm like, okay, I usually am like, okay, so what time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I know that could be kind of overbearing. So I was just like, all right, great, you know. And honestly, he usually comes through. So I have, in this, it's almost like he's testing.

all of my psycho tendencies. It went in a good way because I'm like, okay, if he says he's going to come, he usually does. So that's why I was like, this is odd. So what happened? So you made a plan he was supposed to come to your house or something? What was the plan? I don't understand how we didn't show up. It was like a tentative like, oh, like we'll watch games.

We didn't decide if we're going to go to a bar, do it or watch at my house. We didn't really like plan that. So how come nobody called anyone? the next day. Or did you call? Oh, you did. Oh, and he never called you back? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's bad. I know. That's what I'm saying. Maybe I've been friend zoned because I won't fuck him. It's not that you won't. I mean, like, I mean, that's a gate. Like, what do you mean you won't? It's like, you know.

Because I haven't, I should say. Is it better? Yeah, you haven't. If you're playing that game like I won't and like, and you're trying to go the opposite away because you don't want to, um, have a fuck buddy. Like, you're there, you you want to you want to be somewhere in the middle of like somebody that just fuck somebody right away and somebody that waits since June and has it. You know what I mean?

Right. I'm trying to. You know, I think people would say like third date. Like if you really like somebody, you know, you know when it feels right. But if like, you know, you hang out with someone like so many times and you're not, things aren't moving. It could really just go south. And, you know, it's not good that he didn't call you back at all. and you guys haven't spoke since.

And he could possibly have had met somebody else or five other people in the time since you've been hanging out with him. Is he halfway good look? I mean, I'm assuming he's a good looking guy. He's a catch and a half. He's a fucking lawyer. Sorry, he walks into a bar.

Yeah, he walks into a bar. Every girl smells his money from across the room. I dated a doctor once. It was just ridiculous. I walked in the bar with the doctor guy. on my show and every fucking girl did it I was standing right next and would come over and start trying to pick him up right in front of me because he was like good looking at a lot of money yeah so you really think that this guy is like sitting there waiting for you absolutely not 100% I would

say 110% chances no waiters shattered my unless he's gag it doesn't matter you said your career is important I know you're drinking up a storm because you just got a great great job offer and you're happy. If you want a fucking guy and you want your life because you're ready to get married of kids, you got to change it up and you have to start having real relationships. No, this is not changing it up.

This is your same slow burn bullshit. It's usually not. I had so many guys that I've had fuck buddies with like on. Not fuck buddies. I'm not talking about a fuck buddy. That's not what you're looking for. You want a real relationship. go one way or the other.

There's no middle ground. And this is me trying to like not repeat the mistakes of fuck buddyism. Right. But that's the problem. You're trying to hard. Like forget about fuck buddy shit. Decide that what your intention is to have a relationship. And that's it.

Forget about what you used to do in the past. Fuck buddy. You just had a relate. You've had relationships. You had a relationship with that guy. Forget about the whole worry that you're just going to be fucking fuck buddy. Because you're going in such the opposite direction that you're not even a fuck buddy. you're a nobody, okay?

That's worse. That's not mean. It's the truth. Listen, if things don't work out with the girl that he's with, who'll call you back? Don't worry. But like if you want this guy, if you want him,

you got to like fucking act like you like him. Guys like that, just like girls like that. Do you know what I mean? Like seriously, you can't. I told him. You guys text each other like once a week. It's like snore fest.

That's not how guys act and that's not how girls act when they really like somebody, especially not in the beginning. All the relationships that I know that wind up to be, like to go the distance, it's like, it's like, you know, it's like right from the beginning. Yeah, that's the way it should be. And that's the fun. Like I said, that's the thing that wears off. And, you know, what you have with these people is like what people have 10 years down the line,

you know, like what you saw with your parents. but they were like they weren't like that when they first met each other, you know. That's true. So you have to, um, you have to go back into the dating world because like what I remember from you is that you really want to get married enough kids, right? I do. I was like freeze your fucking eggs. And now that I hear your game like more, I'm like, maybe you should freeze your eggs like

now. I said way two years. But like, if you really want those things for yourself, you, you got to, uh, you. You got to forget about worrying about having sex with someone when you do it and all that bullshit. Just forget about the fucking rules. Just go find a guy that you like and show him that you like him. And, you know, and then you'll get that back. But if you're holding back, you're going to get the guy holding back.

And it's like a, you know, it's like a stalemate. It's like no one's doing anything, you know. And then it disappears. And then you're going to be like, oh, fuck. Like, you know, you look like the loser in the situation. but you didn't do anything to keep the guy. It wasn't like you were so whipped to him chasing him and he was like, oh, fuck you. You were like, you know, if he went away, you know, it's not like total rejection.

I mean, you kind of like didn't really do anything to keep him there. Do you know what I mean? I'm not saying it's just your fault. What I'm saying is it's like it's not like, you know, it's not like because maybe if you were really, really acted like you liked him and really gave him a really. really good sex. Like, you know, and if he did the same, I'm not saying it's just you. You know what I mean?

Like, in him too. I know, well, we have, my friend knows him and she says that he's extremely shy and awkward. But so then you might have to put then he needs, then he wanted, like, I don't know, I still think he met someone else because like you called him. Like, it doesn't matter

how shy he is. He could have called you back. But, you know, a really shy guy needs a rude. Yeah, a really shy guy wants a girl who's maybe, it's like a really good girl for that kind of guy, someone who's very aggressive and just goes after them and takes them. But you got to take them like with some passion like I fucking want you, not like I want you every three weeks. Do you know what I mean?

Because maybe another aggressive girl came in and said, I'm calling you every fucking day and I want you. And, you know, that would be good for somebody like that. You know what I mean? Maybe that's what he needs. But you weren't, you weren't giving that. You know, you might be mixed matched with him. But if you want him and he comes back around, there's still a chance for that.

You know what I mean? It doesn't mean that this other person. But I want you to know, I'm sorry, and I want all girls to know that like, I don't know what century you're living in that you think like some guy in like reproductive age or they're not in. They're always in reproductive age. I mean, in horny mode. Like how old is this guy is going to go three months when without sex for you?

I mean, I'm sure there are. are some guys that do that, but most of the time that's absolutely not. Okay. Some really guys, I think that are really religious for their religion purposes. Like they can do that and I think that that's, you know, but most guys, uh, won't, don't. If they, you know, and that's just the way that it is. You're not in a relationship. Most, there's no way he was just jerking off all this time waiting for you to have sex with him.

Sorry. Uh, listen, you had plans to go fool around with your girlfriend. at least i mean you have that coming up you have that i'm gonna have to hear the rest of the story i can't i like people that come back yeah it's interesting i'm glad i didn't know what we'd be talking about like i had all these questions about the lap past episode i love this call because i just think this is something good for like all girls to hear because this is like what this is like regular girlfriend shit like you know this is like regular stuff yeah or any any time it's the same shit it's all the same stuff. It's all the thing. Try not to follow the rules. Try not to get stuck in your head because of your

past. Seriously. I'm trying not to. I think a big thing too is my ex-boyfriend. He would always tell me I was a whore and a swat and that's, like, when he told me when I told him the night that like, oh, I had sucks with that girl and the brother. And he was just like, oh, you'll, like anybody can fuck you. Like, oh. And so it's just like, maybe that's part of me trying to be like, okay, well, maybe I won't just fuck anybody. I don't know. Yeah, but like, listen, first of all, you told your boyfriend that, like, you cheated on him, okay? So how do you expect him to react?

And he's going to- I get a cheat on him. We were not in a relationship. Whatever. But, like, you know, you were telling him things that he shouldn't have known. It was, like, stupid of you to tell him. And then when he acts all crazy about it, and of course he's going to call you a whore and put you down because he was so jealous.

Because nobody wants to know, even if you're on a break, you don't want to know that your person that you care about, like was intimate. or fuck somebody else. Like that's like not a good feeling like in that kind of a relationship, you know. So of course he's going to tell you bad things, you know. And if you're still buying into them, then there's something about you that thinks that for yourself. You know what I mean?

And it's good that you still see your therapist, but you have to get rid of that stuff so that you could get into like your future, which is what you wanted to be married and have kids and all this stuff and have a good relationship. You have to stop playing the game. Start, stop worrying about being a whore or not. And, you know, if you, you know, if this guy comes back around, take it fucking up a notch and be a little aggressive and let him know that you really like him. If you can. If you like him, I don't know.

Exhaust. I do. I like, we have, we, oh, we, it is. We have a great time whenever we're together and we really get along. Do you like him a lot? I do like him. I really do. Which is really sad.

This is why I'm like, oh, this conversation is kind of depressing because it makes me feel like I fucked up and missed the boat. No, you didn't. You definitely, you don't know that you missed the boat until like, how long has it been since you heard from them? Saturday, what day is it? Tuesday. Yeah, you need about a week, but it's not looking. Yep. You need about a week to go by and see if you hear from him.

And if you miss the boat, who fucking cares? Just, you know, don't like, you know, go try to find somebody else. Seriously. Like, just date like crazy until you meet somebody that you really like, you know? Yeah, I will have to do that. You never know, though, the guy. I give him another week. I feel like where I live now, the guys are not my type at all.

Like, just in any way to perform. And he's my type. He's your type? Yeah, he really is. Well, I can't with this job opportunity, I'm not in here. Well, listen, if that guy was really your type and all this stuff, you've got to like, I don't know, you got to, you got to like show that more. Like you shouldn't have been, like, you haven't even met sex with him. All right.

Maybe I'll call him. Maybe I'll call him and say, I can't. No, don't. Don't call him. Give him a little bit and let him wait. I mean, you called him and blew you off. I know. I was just saying it was a celebratory evening.

Yeah, no. Give him a little bit and wait till you hear from him. I bet you'll hear from him, but like, you know, he's definitely testing out the water someplace else. So, you know, if you want to make him yours and with a shy guy, you carry, you got to be a little bit aggressive. And I think you got to show him more that you like him and be a little bit more open about your feelings, you know, and you have to have sex with him. Yeah, probably. You know, and hopefully it'll be really fucking good. You know, where's the passion?

You need passion. I do. I'm tired of not having sex. Yeah. Go, I mean, you know, you might have missed the boat with him, but who knows? But keep me posted, okay? Let me know. Can you email me when he calls you?

I will. Let me know. And then we'll do an update show soon again with you. I want to follow your story. All right. Thanks for calling in again. All right. Bye, Candy.

Have a good night. You too. Bye. So anyway, so this is the update to the update. She obviously was being ghosted. I mean, come on. Didn't you agree with me the whole time? Doesn't it so obvious?

It was obvious to everybody except her that she was like most likely never going to hear from that guy and she never did. He just like literally disappeared from the face of the earth. That is the epitome of being ghosted. I've been ghosted. You've probably been ghosted or you've done the ghost. I've been both. I've ghosted.

I've been the ghoster. Like haven't we all? It's just the way things go. At the end of the day we could all be pussies. That's sometimes. And I think sometimes you don't even know why you do it. You know, who knows if I had that guy on. He could be a professional ghoster or he could have just done it that time because he just made that decision and then he couldn't go back.

You know, that's like one of those things. So anyway, if you're listening, Daisy, don't worry. It happens to everybody. No big deal. And, you know, and if you're someone that's ghosting somebody, you know, try not to do it because it's really fucked up and really plays a mind fuck on somebody else and doesn't let them sort of get closure. And that's like fucked up. But, you know, what can you do that's life? So anyway, tune in next week for someone else.

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