Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 310 - Fred Recently Came Out as Bisexual to his Wife

Episode Date: November 18, 2019

Fred recently came out as bisexual to his wife and she was totally okay with it, but he still has a secret he's not sharing with her. What exactly is he doing behind her back? Why hasn't he told her? Does he ever plan on telling her? Tune in to find out plus hear all about how he came out as bisexual to his wife, why she wasn't surprised that he was attracted to men, how he got her into pegging him and a whole lot more. **For a link to what's he's secretly been up to, tune in to the end of the podcast. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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embarrassed about if someone sitting across from them and looking at them. So if we do that, I charge a consulting fee. And if you want to know the details about that, I mean, email is strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Today, I have been a guy named Fred. Now, Fred called in because he was like, oh, I recently came out with, came out to my wife as being by and she was totally cool with it. But I still have like a secret from her. And, you know, we talk about both those things. He's lucky. He's like a young, married guy who, like I said, came out to his wife and she's really fucking cool with the fact that he's by. And you'll find out why, how she reacted, why she reacted okay. And you'll also find out what he's doing behind her

back. There's like this little thing that he's doing that he won't tell her about. And we talk about, like I said, why, what he's actually doing. You'll get details about that. He'll send out an email. I mean, I don't know. You'll get details about that. And all, and then everything else. You know, me, I like peel back the layer, so I'll ask him a million, gazillion, questions. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Fred. Welcome to a strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing very well. How are you doing today? I'm doing good. So Fred, you have like two things going on that I want to talk about. You sent me an email and said that you recently came out to your wife, right, as being bisexual. And she was okay with it, right? Because

there were signs there, right? And I want to get really into that because I feel like there's so many guys that call my show that wish that they could be you, right? They're like on the, they, they want to tell their wives. They don't know how the wife will feel. You know, you're someone that let your freak flag fly and your wife accepted it. But the other second thing that we're going to talk about, which is kind of fucked up is that even though you told her and she was okay with it, since you told her, you have a new sort of secret thing that you're doing that you're not telling her about, right? I do. I do. And that kind of shit. always blows my mind because, and I've heard it before, right? Like, because you would think, right? Like,

if I was your wife, I would think, okay, he let me know that. Like, that's all good. Like, there's nothing left that I need to know, right? And since she was so accepting, you would think that you'd be cool with sort of telling her everything. Why keep this shit as a secret? And I'm wondering, is it because it's, like, more hot that it's a secret? Oh, definitely. Definitely. Like, I think it's a, it's a, turn on that you're that you're that you're being naughty yes behind her back exactly exactly yeah that's like a real problem and I don't know what the solution is but let's get into your story first of all so how long have you married to your wife we've been married five years and okay how long together

yeah 10 years okay and so why come out like how did it come up let not first question though in the past 10 years that you've been together with her. Were you cheating on her with guys behind her back or no? No, no, no. I have been 100% faithful to my wife. Uh-huh. I think in this, this view might not believe this, but she's actually the only person I've ever been with. I believe it. Why wouldn't I believe it? I mean, you know, I've heard everything on the show. Are you like Christian or like Mormon or something? No, no. I mean, I grew up in a conservative Christian house. and recently I came back to face. But that's not

any of the like motivation. It's simply what well I mean like being raised conservatively Christian. No I mean not the reason why you didn't cheat. The reason why you've only been with one woman, right? Like did you wait till you were married and stuff? Because you were raised that way, right?

Like you were following your. No. We didn't wait until we were married. Oh, okay. We very much. No. But it was both of us were raised religious. So like we just didn't do and then when we finally started dating, a little bit into that is when we first had sex. Okay, cool.

So you never, even though I'm assuming you knew you were by through your whole marriage with your wife, you never acted upon it, right? I don't know if I ever really accepted. Like, I know I had urges and feeling, but I never acknowledged that I was by or that I was, like, sexually attracted to men until, about fairly recently. So let me ask you this before, when you were like way young,

like when did you first start to get like some sort of inkling that maybe you were into guys? Oh, I mean, so when I was, like when I was really young, like, I definitely came. I sort of like found my parents porn and like, like it would have been like magazines to order DVDs and I would look through those.

And I remember like, like seeing guys with like big cops and being. like really turned on by that, but then kind of, you know, pushing that back. Right. And not putting two and two together, right? Yes. Okay. So what, what do you think happened six months ago that made you sort of come to that

conclusion and then have the balls to like tell your wife? Because I think that that's really ballsy and great. Well, I mean, my wife and I've always, I think it was babysuffs. Like, like, I eventually realized, like, I identify queer, which meaning, like, to me means that I... As what? Wait, queer with a cue? Yes. Okay. That I, like, but I identify as being, like, 100% feminine and 100% masculine.

But, like, I'm not, like, gender fluid where I, like, part of me is, like, masculine and part of me is, like, I acknowledge them being together all the time. Mm-hmm. And so, like, that was a step for me. And then I, the reason I came out to my wife is, like, she, like, were both very accepting people. And I just finally felt comfortable enough to tell her that, like, sexually attracted to men. And she, and, like, there was, there were signs before. Like, it wasn't, it wasn't anything out of the blue, I don't think, for her. What were the signs?

I think I've always been like I described to her like I'm like her gay best friend that also like fucks her right doesn't you sound gay to me is that weird to say no no no I understand that honestly growing up there were two first impressions people would get at me one was that I was gay and then the other was that I'm intimidating right interesting yeah well because I'm a very like I'm a big guy Right. Like physically big. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm six-four. And now is your, you said you recently found your faith again. Did your wife also? No. No. My wife's agnostic. Oh, she is. Interesting. Okay. So you, have you ever been with a guy? I mean, before the six months. Like before, I know that six months ago you came out to her and stuff and we'll talk about like what changed them. But like before that, have you ever been with, were you ever with a guy? Do anything?

No. the closest, well, the closest, like, when I was younger, there was a few times with one of my friends where, like, we would watch porn together and masturbate. Right, in the same room. Yes, but that's the closest I've ever been to doing anything with another guy. Oh, my God, so much of, so much shit like that went down with guys. And I'm sure girls, too, I don't know.

I don't have a lot of girls like to talk about it, but I can't believe the stuff that, like, young guys were doing at home. And I've even heard of stuff, like, in. school and like whatever. Anyway, so you never took it further than that with that one friend of yours, right? Yes. Have you since you came out to your wife ever been with a guy? No, no, I haven't. Interesting. So what is your, I mean, coming out to your wife, right? Let's get into that. Like you said it took baby steps and everything and then you eventually let her know. But you coming out to her, was it because you want to be with a guy and open up your relationship

like that or was it just so that you could sort of let her know that this is what you're thinking about like what was the plan I think it was letting her know and how he's feeling like we're very much communicating like relationship I was letting her know how he's feeling and it really gave me a lot of permission to start living more out and being I mean as she put like my true self and so like We now do things together. Like recently we went shopping and bought me like women's underwear of my own to wear.

Oh, so you go you like that too. That's another thing, right? Yes. Uh-huh. Yes. Yeah. And so like it allows me to be very out in her being very understanding of this. Now what about you actually being with another guy?

Like what do you, where do you see yourself five years from now? I honestly don't know. We've talked about it, you know, being like, would you be okay with seeing me with another guy? Because I would feel like, for me, like a threesome would make the most sense because I'd want my wife to be involved. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. And like we've talked about it and how like she would want to see me top a guy, but not necessarily be bottomed.

Yeah, I get that. I've heard that before. Yeah. from people. So she would mind you being like the guy and the really like the top right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you would be obviously okay seeing her like would she get fucked

by the guy or would it just be you with the guy? I don't think she's she's not really like we are like I said we're very monogamous so I don't think she would be into another guy. I think it'd be more of she would be like I'd be with her and the other

and the guy would be with me type thing I'd be getting all the action essentially like I'd be fucking her and eating her out like another guy but I mean for me like I would want to be the bottom though

oh you would would you want to be the top two because I've heard in the gay community like that there's it's it's more like someone picks like one or the other it's more rare that you find somebody that would do both right well yeah I mean okay so the term is

verse. Verse. And that's being both ways. Okay. Yeah. Sure. For versatile. Mm-hmm.

Where, like, I probably would be a verse. Like, I'm not opposed to topping. Yeah. But, like, but, like, I like bottoming. You prefer bottoming. And now how do you know? Like, have you, I mean, I'm assuming, because you've never been with a guy that you've done anal play with yourself, right?

Is that how it's? Ah. Or with your wife? And then, yes, my wife just pegged me. she has yes multiple multiple occasions right so maybe that's one

that was one of the signs too right that you were into that yeah and I mean I had told her my want to be pegged very early in our relationship how old are you guys we're both 29

oh okay so you're super young because I was gonna say like you don't sound like you're from my like if you were from my generation like you know in your 40s or 50s I'd be like whoa like that's like amazing that you were able to do that because it just was way less acceptable for people. You know, so I think it's harder for older people and easier, I think, for younger people.

I think that that's like super great that you guys have always been so open and understanding. And I especially, and that's why I asked you about your faith, because I know you said she's not, and she's agnostic, whatever, but you've recently got back into your faith, but you're, super open and accepting, which I think, you know, I don't know, I think the problem that a lot of people have with religion and the problem I have with religion is that, people claim they're so religious yet they're not accepting, right? Wouldn't you say, wouldn't you think that if you're, if you're really into your faith, like you should be more accepting of people, right? Isn't that what it should be all about? Oh, of course, of course. Like, I mean, and that's

like, I've been, I haven't found like a church to stay at, but when I, one of the main things I look for in a denomination when I'm working on churches is that they are what's called, it's called open and affirming. Yeah. Open means. that you're accepting of LGBTQ individuals in the church. Yeah. And then affirming things that you don't think it's a sin. Right.

I mean, that to me is like true faith. I remember Tammy Fay Baker. She was like that super religious lady right that married to that guy that went up in jail. But she was on some sort of reality show where she was stuck in a house with like Ron Jeremy, the porn star and all these people.

But she was like so accepting and loving and open and non-judgmental to everyone. And I was like, that bitch was like the the real deal you know what I mean like that's what a really religious person to me should be like you know um but yet you find all that you find more people that aren't that way you know but I think that that's great that you have your faith and you're you know okay with your sexuality and all the stuff that you're into at the same time those things could go together and should go together right exactly yeah I think that's great I don't think that there should be

shame around sex and religion. No, that's what my show is all about. You know, I'm doing it more so. I think I'm helping more so the people that are around my age more. Because we grew up in a much different time where there was way more shame, just in sex alone, you know, but yeah, there shouldn't be at all. I mean, what does it matter? Whatever.

But let's get more back into your story. So you and your wife are super open. You've talked about everything. She's very accepting of stuff. You guys don't know when. Like, do you have any place? plans to have a threesome or anything? Right now I think we're more in like the fantasy talking phase and not in anything like hard and firm trying to.

Because I think there's a lot of baggage with the fact that like we've only ever been with one person. For sure. So like to open that up is very because essentially to us like sex has always been emotional because there's been an emotional expression. along with a physical expression. Yeah. And I think my wife is threatened by me having those emotions for another person. Right. And do you think, though, that it would be that way with a man?

Or would it just be sex? Do you know what I mean? Like, you say, like, it's been always emotional sex with your wife has always been something that has to do with emotional, right? But, like, if you were having sex with a guy, would there be emotion attached or would it would just be sex? I think there would be like a certain level because like I think there would be passion. Like I'm a very passion person and like I don't think it would be like like I've listened to plenty of your episodes like I don't think it'd be something where like I'm blindfolded and like someone comes with sucks.

Right. It has to be that I'd have to get that, get to know that person at least a little bit to have that attraction because I'm far more attracted to personalities than bodies. Right. Do you worry or ever think about whether you'd ever, like say you started, you know, fooling around with a guy with your wife and, you know, if you kept seeing that person that you could actually develop romantic feelings for a man as well? Oh, I think I could. I think I'm, like, I don't think I'm not capable of developing romantic feelings from there.

Right. Mm-hmm. And that's what you would say is verse. That you would call, you call, and that's, what's the word term that you use for yourself, just queer? Is that what that's about? Yeah. Well, no, for queer, it's clear is because I, it has to do a gender expression. Yeah. Like how I identify my gender. And that is as both male and female.

Right. And what about your sexuality? My sexuality, I identified bisexual. Right. Interesting. And so let me ask you this. When did it start? Was it like right out, because you said both things happened six months ago. Six months ago, six months ago, you came Now, six months ago you started posting naked pictures of your... You sent me a link, I didn't go to it. I don't like to ever see anyone that's on my show. But you started six months ago around the same time posting naked pictures of yourself, right?

Yes. That's what you're doing secretly. So did that start right after you told your way? Yes. Yeah, right after I told her, when I started exploring Reddit and going to boards and seeing like, like looking at other men and stuff like that. Right. And you had never done anything like that before?

I like posting naked pictures. I haven't done that. Right. Like you Googled stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And then I guess another interesting thing we could explore is that for a decent amount of my wife and I's relationship, we were a long distance.

How long? What's a decent amount? What was that? What's a decent amount of time? Like five years, four years, three years? Four years. Okay. And so for that time, or for a short bit of that time,

I was behind her back using, like, cam sites. Right. And were you, like, camming with guys? No, but I was talking. I was mostly talking to women on those sites. Oh, really? Interesting. You'd, like, pay for women? Like they were like girls you would pay for

Did you ever tell her? No. And that was when you guys were long distance And you stopped that when you guys moved in together? Yeah, I haven't paid for it But I do I do still go on and talk to women on there. And that's something you do secretly.

Yes. Now let me ask you this. Why are those two things kept secret? I think my wife's got a, a complicated outlook at pornography. Mm-hmm. Like she's just started opening up

and like using porn herself. Really? And yes. And so, so keeping those things secret is because she was always against those things. And I just don't, how do I put this?

You don't think she'd be accepting of it? Yeah. Right. And because of the deception, like I think she'd be more betrayed by some of the deception. Right. Because I'm assuming like the first,

when you told her you were by, did she even have to worry that you had been with other guys? Did she ask that question? Or did she just trust you so much? Because she would just never assume that you would have, you would deceive her. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. And so she really trusts you. Yeah. she does. And maybe she shouldn't. No, I'm just telling you. I mean, I can understand. I can understand.

But let me ask you this. If you told her about the naked picture thing that you're doing with guys, do you think she'd be okay with it or not okay with it? I don't think she'd be okay with it purely for the fact that, like, I've done it behind her back. And then I think, like, she would also see. Well, what if you didn't tell her that you did it about behind her back? Like what if you asked her?

What if you omitted, you know, the fact that you've done it for the past six months and just sort of took baby steps that like maybe this is a way for you to express yourself with guys as opposed to being with them and would she be okay with it and see if you could get her permission? Yeah. I think she'd be okay with the pictures possibly. I don't think she'd be totally okay with like somebody in a rationale. Well, well, now let's get into that. So now that you're on this community, what kind of interactions are you having? Well, you know, like people will see the picture and like comment on it and I'll comment back to them. And then like a few people have sent me like private messages on there and have talked to them.

But it never, like, I always think that I'm going to get more out of the person, but like that they're going to contribute a conversation of some sort. But it always ends up in like one, like, you know, like one word answers and it goes nowhere. Oh, really? But, you know, you never know that there's going to be that one guy that and then what happens if he lives kind of close to you and that, you know, you're like, you're going into territory where like, you know, a year from now, you could wind up cheating on your wife without really ever intending to. Do you know what I mean? Because it just like sort of happens. Yeah. That's what's dangerous about what you're doing.

Yeah, I feel like we'd talk about it enough that, like, if I ever got to the point where I'm like, I'm going to physically cheat on my wife, I would bring that up with her and be like, hey, I've been having these feelings lately. And I really, like, I really need us to open up our relationship so that I can express these feelings without cheating. Right. But I think, you know, I don't know. Can you stop the online stuff? Like, what if she found your stuff? Like, how devastated would she be? I think she'd be very upset.

It'd take a lot to build her trust back up after that. Mm-hmm. But it, like, we wouldn't be divorced over it. Right. Well, why not? Do you think that if you told her and she was okay with it, it would take away the thrill? Um, probably to a certain, to a certain degree.

Mm-hmm. I think also, in my mind, Like, I think I have the fantasy of, like, her finding out and also wanting to participate. Because I have that, uh, I have a bit of an exhibitionist streak in me. Right. And, like, I'd like to show her too. Right. Now, what kind of porn is she into?

Is there, is there any chance that she could be by herself? Oh, yes. There is, or she's told you? Well, my wife's very resistant against labels. Right. Okay. And so, like, my wife only masturbates to, like, big, like, very specific, big boop women having kids in their face. That's obviously what she wants.

So, yeah, duh. Okay. She's brought up that she's, like, finds guys in porn videos not very attractive, and, like, it takes her out of it. But it's the females that she's looking at and she's into. Mm-hmm. Yes. So she's by too? Yes.

Does she come out? She doesn't come out and say that. Now, so you both have sort of these desires for the opposite. I was wondering that when you first told me a long time ago that I was thinking, you know, sort of like attracts like. And I was wondering if you guys sort of found each other because, you know, because I think sometimes even if these things aren't expressed, there's an energy to you and you wind up being attracted to people that are similar on some level, right? Oh, yeah. And I think, I think if like the environment is crazy. where both people are comfortable enough to do things,

but that's great too. And you guys are, right? Yes. Right. So, I mean, I was like, oh, like when you were saying that it was just like obvious that you were, you know, sort of queer yourself, that I was wondering, my first thought was like, maybe your wife is too, right? And that's what brought you guys together, you know, on some level you knew that about

each other. Now, so have you guys talked about her being with a woman ever? We have. I think she's like she's sexually attracted to women, but, but personally she wouldn't want to go down on another woman. But she wanted another woman to go down on her, but she wouldn't go down on another woman. Okay. And so she feels like she'd be unfair in that situation. She just want, oh, right.

But listen, you could find somebody for everything. There might just be a woman that's like submissive and wants to do that and that's it. Do you know what I mean? Like that would be like a sob, I think would be totally into that. Yeah. And I definitely think my wife, like with me, my wife is submissive, but like with another woman, she'd be dominant. Right. She'd be, she'd be the dude in that relationship.

But with you, she's the woman. I don't mean. Kind of whatever that means. You know what I mean. Like with you, she's submissive. With the woman, she'd be more, she'd take that role, the more dominant role. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and there's plenty of submissive women.

I think that she could find a girl that was into just that. Yeah, and then like, well, then the thing is like, I'm dominant in, like, in my marriage, like, for sexually. But I also think if I was to be with a man, I'd also be dominant. Right, even though you'd want to be the bottom. Yeah, because even when my wife's pegging me, I'm still dominant. Right. You're still the dom. You like that role.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on here. Sorry? No, I said there's a lot of stuff to follow here. You know, because it's almost like you both have two sides, right? And there's two different things going on for the both of you. It's not just you.

It's her too, right? Of course. And it's being expressed in different ways when it comes to the opposite sex, right? When it's with her, with a woman, with you with a man, right? Neither one of you. Now, is there a chance that she would be doing stuff behind your back? I don't know that you don't know about it with women? No.

no I don't think so because definitely I have the higher sex drive in the relationship like like I'm I'm just I've always been a very sexual person from from the very young age yeah she's very sexual as well just not on the level I am right and I think men and women could differ a little bit like that you know what I mean but maybe she hasn't coming into her own yet either. How old is she? She's 29? Yes. That might change when she's in her 30s. Women just get more horny as they get older.

At least I did. Recently I took the initiative to lose some, like, get stronger and more fit. And honestly, the motivation was my wife's about to hit her sexual prime. Yeah. And I'm like, I got to be in the best shape of my life with now. Yeah. But I mean, listen, I think you guys are

headed to, you know, opening your relationship up and having sex with others, I think. I mean, because you're, listen, you're super young. You've been to your, you're just started, you know, you've been together 10 years. I just taped with somebody else that like open their relationship up at that 10 year mark. That's always like the good time. You want to be in, they say, double digit years. I believe to, you know, it's like you, by that time, you have a strong enough foundation to withstand whatever happens. I think it sounds like, you. You know, you're going to be. You. You're you guys definitely have that, right? Where you could open it up and her with women, you with guys and see, you know, what you guys like and what you don't.

Since you have such great communication with each other, I think you'd be very successful at it and both happier because, and you wouldn't need to do this stuff behind her back. But I think, you know, you need the baby steps because she's a little bit more uptight, right, than you are. When it comes to those, right, to actually pulling the trigger and doing something. something about it? Yeah, she's got a little more baggage. Right. Do you feel bad about doing this stuff behind her back? That's always the question that I think is important because if you think, you know, because you could take, there could be two different things going on here. You could be like, you know it's not that bad or you don't feel like it's anything bad, but you know she wouldn't like it. So you just don't say it. Or it could be like, you know, she wouldn't like it and you know

that it's bad and you feel guilty but you do it anyway like you know which is it I don't think it's not bad right it's the idea that like I think that it's not actual cheating but I'm not going out with and having sex with other people that I'm instead putting my energies into like a safer alternatives I see them and what are safer alternatives well I mean like I like because I can can't like through those things like I can't bring any any diseases home right exactly it's not it doesn't interfere with my like my my life itself like I'm not like I'm not like lying to her to tell her that I'm somewhere else than I am yeah yeah no I definitely think that that does make it I I I definitely feel like I could see why you would feel like it's not really that big of a deal and but I do think with the

crossing of the line, like you said, like it starts to get a little bit worse when you start, when you say like you're having these conversations, right? And say there is someone that is a taker and makes the conversation go a little bit more deeper and it's not just this surface conversation that lasts, right? Then where does that go? But you feel like if it did ever get serious with somebody that you were talking to, you would bring that to her attention. And now you really like the attention that you're getting on there as well, right? Like what do you, post and what kind what's the deal and what do you get out of it? I've posted a few posts like some of them are just dick picks.

One is a video of a short clip of a video of me writing a dildo and or like I believe one of them of me with my half spread. Right. And you know, and you get people commenting on that and telling you how hot it is and how you have a great talk. and like that they'd want to fuck you. And like that, I like that attention a lot. Now, where do you post this stuff that, like, could people, would you be into my listeners checking it out?

I don't know. Of course. So why don't you give your, like, why don't you give it a shout out? All right. I post on Reddit under the username Bearded Daddy 90s. Could you spell that, bearded like B-E-A-R-D? Yes Daddy

All one word 90 All much together So bearded daddy D-A-D-D-Y 90 Yeah And then that's where they can see

How many pictures and stuff do you have up Four pictures and then one video Right And you just started like Six months ago Now I know because People set up a Reddit account for my Podcast

Like this is the thing Or people could go on They could see yourself And then they could send you messages right on Reddit and you would like talk back with them. That's how they would get in a conversation with you, right? If my listeners wanted to. And what are you into?

What kind of guys are you into? I'm really into like muscular men. Like I like muscles. I also like them like people who look professional. Right. Like more clean cut guys. Like older, definitely older like 30s, 40s. Right.

Yeah, that's more of what I'm into. Big dick. Oh, yeah. Is that just a given? I don't know. Yeah, no, I consider myself to be a size queen. And I'm a bit proud of that. Yeah, no, because I remember you saying you saw like those big dicks in your parents

porn when you were younger, right? And you were like, holy shit. You were into it, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Now, do you get women, I mean, on, you know, you're not into women response. Like, do women go on this Reddit thing or is this, is this you as like a bisexual man? I'm posting on the

subreddit's called Bygone Wild Oh okay So it's all guys There's women who post there But I haven't got any responses from women Right I don't know if my content's

geared towards women responding No And I just don't think that I think that's where women and men are a little bit different Right Like I just don't know that So many women are looking online for a guy A video of a guy jerking off

Do you know what I mean? But I think that or like a picture of a guy's asshole. I think guys would for sure. What? Yeah. I think you'd be surprised. I think there's a, there's definitely like in that Reddit porn community, definitely women who are into guys jerking off.

Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Interesting. And so, you know, if anybody wants to go on, they go to bearded daddy 90.com. Now, do you have any? No, not that. Not.com. It's weird.

Oh, it's, you go on Reddit. To Reddit, right. So, like, on Reddit, everything, like the subreddits are R-flash, like R-slash-Begon-Wild. But then so users are U-S-slash Bearded Daddy 90. So how would someone, if someone goes on a U-U, on to Reddit, right? Is there a search place where they would just put in Bearded Daddy 90 all one word and find it? Well, they put like U-Sash bearded Daddy 90. Oh, okay, you slash after Reddit.

Okay. If they want to do a direct link. But if they just went to Reddit.com, can't they search for a bearded daddy 90? I don't know. I could only send you a link in an email that you could post you show notes if you wanted to do that.

Okay, we could do that. I've been like, that's what people have been doing lately. I think that fucking girl, did you listen to that girl, the webcam girl recently that was cheating on her husband? Yes.

Yeah, I think she was full of fucking shit for some reason. I don't know. I think it was a part of me and just thought, like after I was like, I'm like, maybe she's lying about the whole cheating thing because her, you know, she said all her webcam guys love that story and that's who she like sort of pretends to be. And just used me to get her like more clients, you know?

Yeah. I don't know. I know you think there's a few people you think are lying because, and like I totally think they're lying too because like they're not, they're being very like childlike in the descriptions of things. Like very circumstance. Yeah, you could tell, right? You would ask them a question, and they're just like, and like, it's like if they read an erotica novel, and they're trying to, like, respond that. Yeah, there was a couple things that she did that made me feel like she was full of shit, though.

She was good at what she, she was a good liar, I have to say. She was better. Most of the time when people are lying, it's so obvious to me, like, when I'm talking to her. But there's been a couple times where after I'm done, I go back and I think, like, wow, I just got fucking. lied to. You know what I mean? Like I didn't see it until like later, you know. And that happened with her for sure. And I, but I think that she just wanted to get like, webcam information. And the funny thing was is I got all these emails from people saying like, oh, I wanted to get more information about her as a webcam. And I was like, you know, I think she was full of shit. And she, I think she shot herself in the foot by making up the whole cheating thing. She could have just come on my podcast to talk about being a webcam girl and what she does. And what, you know, I would have think that would have been a better talk. topic for her. Right? Instead of listening to me, give all that advice that was probably cock blocking all

these stuff that guys really wanted to hear about her. But my whole point is that I don't mind if you're going to come on my show and tell me your story and give me an episode, I don't mind to give the shout out to somebody. You know what I mean? Like that's a, that's a fine tradeoff for me, you know? And I do. And then mine, yeah. Mine's not a business.

Right. No, yours is personal. That's what I do so more. so for people is like I've had just guys that are looking to hook up whatever to up their game, get more people. You know, this will help you at your Reddit page. I mean, I don't think you're looking for advice, right, about how to stop lying to your wife, right?

No. No. No. You just want to talk about your stuff, right? And, and... Yeah, I just want to let my quick, like, fly. Yeah, yeah, which I think is, like, really interesting. I think your story's super interesting.

I think, like, you know, you hear... There's so many people that are older than you. you that wish they could be living your life. Whereas at 29, you're married to a woman who totally knows that you have these desires for men on the side and she's okay with it. I can't tell you how many guys that are way older, you know, have been in marriages for longer and they want to tell their wives because this is who they've been forever, but they can't. And they don't know if their wives will accept it. You know, I think they also have a lot more shame attached to their desires, like the fact that they have been with men in the past.

Like, I think they still feel some shame with that. Yeah, and it just they grew up, but I have to tell you, you know, you won't, you can't know, because you just didn't grow up in the world that we grew up in, that it just, society put on them for a very long time and their wives, that this just wasn't what guys do. It's just not, it's very taboo. Whereas it's somewhere along the line a while ago, I would say like in the 80s, it became very cool for women to be with women and totally okay. But that didn't happen for men in our age group, my age group, not yours, you know.

So you guys are super lucky, right? And I think great. I think your guy's relationship five years from now is going to look a lot different. I think your wife needs to just move it along a little bit more. she's like a little behind you, right? Sort of accepting all of her stuff, right? And coming to terms with it. But I think she's gonna, don't you?

No, I could see that at. Honestly, I could see us. Like, we've talked about it. We've talked about that, like, that we wouldn't be opposed to non-monogamy. Right. It's just, like, we're done in that place right now. And I think that that's smart.

I mean, I think you guys sound like you have like, all these desires and all the stuff that you're into, but you have like really good heads on your shoulders because you guys talk a lot, but you know that even though you have these desires that you're, because there is a little bit of a fear of like how that plays out, right? You're just not jumping into it. And that's super smart because so many people do.

I mean, I love a swingers gone wrong story. Don't get me wrong. You know, I've had hilarious stories of people trying things out and they just do everything the wrong way. It just sounds like you guys, if you ever do it, you will be successful at it because it will be at the right time. You know, you talk a lot. You have the communication.

And I think that's like one of the most important things. You have the foundation. You have the close relationship. You have the really, really open communication with each other. And what's cool about you is that you're not like pushing anything, right? Like it's not like you're not like a typical guy that's like, oh, I want to go. I got to go suck some. dick now and you don't care that, you know, you just want her to be okay with it even before she is,

right? Like, I don't know. Like, you're cool in that you could, like, wait for things to happen. You're taking those baby steps. I'm very satisfied in my, in my sexual relationship with my wife. And so, like, some of that can be acted out in role play. Like, when she puts on her strap on, like, I'll suck her, all suck her, all suck her dick while fingering her.

And so like she'll get pleasure from it. And I'll get that want to have a dick in the mouth. Yeah. And I've told people that has been my advice to some older guys. Like maybe just like to keep it as a role play scenario. Right? If you can't do it sort of in real life, right? And since your wife knows you could do that and that satisfies that urge, but I do

believe because you're young over time, you will eventually open it up and she'll be with other women too. Yeah, we're a little young for the swingers crowd, too. Right. A lot of the swingers' crowds are like you're late 30s, early 40s. No, I know. But I think a lot more younger people are having open relationships. I don't know that they call themselves swingers because I think that that sort of is like an old person's term.

Do you know what I mean? I think younger people use, oh, we're polyamorous or, you know, because I've had a lot of young couples. on my show that have open relationships or are doing things that maybe people would have called oh like or would have called them swingers many many years ago but that's not what they're calling themselves now right yeah so you know I think anybody I mean what is what does swingers mean I don't know the exact term what's the exact definition I know that it's swingers clubs like I live in New York City and I have one guest that's been on Dr. Guy who's gone to swingers clubs and swingers parties. And there's stuff that skews in this city to younger people and more

attractive people. I mean, you could find those people in, I think, in bigger cities, right? Oh, yeah. But I think typically people assume swingers are like, you know, way older. And they are a lot of the times, right, if you go to like a swingers club. Have you got, would you, I mean, that's like stuff that I see in your guys horizon eventually. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I, I, I could see, like honestly, I could see us opening up. I think probably to a man before a woman. I think we'd open up to another man before another woman because I think that's less threatening for my wife.

Oh, right. Because you mean as far as you being with the other woman? Yeah, like, I think, I mean, I would totally be cool with her watching her be with another woman. Right. I don't think I've ever presented that idea to her, though. I think she assumes that like if there's another woman, I'm also with the other woman.

Yeah, no, I think you should just keep it in the beginning where she's just with the other woman. Especially, right? Because that would make her feel more secure. And you don't care about that, right? Because you're completely satisfied with your way. So, you know, what you need extra that you can't really get from her,

even though you kind of do, is like a real, a man. Yeah. So, you know, if you kept it where, just like she would probably be with you, like you said that if you were with a guy, she probably wouldn't have that desire. And if you guys started out there,

it would be like totally fine. And then what I've heard other people do, you know, other couples that are way older than you guys and have been doing this for longer, is that it just progresses to where they're doing everything. There's no rules and they're fine with it all, you know?

But they took it very slowly. Yeah. There was a Wendy, a guy and then his wife on recently. I taped them. two separate times, right? And that's how their relationship played out, you know? It wasn't like no holds bar right from the beginning, but it became that over time.

And I think that that's the smarter way to go and you have more chance of being successful. Does anybody, like, is this something that's, like, private between you and your girl? Or, like, does your family know? I mean, are you sort of out with everyone or just in your relationship? My family doesn't know. my close friends now and then I have recently told a few of my co-workers. Right.

Yeah, but like I think I don't tell my family because I think it, like, the fact that I am like married to my wife, it raises five more questions than I feel like answering. Right. And if it's just like SCX, what does your family need to know about it? Do you know what I mean?

Exactly. I don't think that they, no family wants to know anybody's, like, you know, you know, I have a cousin recently that came out, or it's not my cousin. It was like my sister's, I don't know, whatever. They came out to their mother as being bisexual. And I was like, I don't know why someone needs that information. It's kind of like what you do sexually.

Unless you're maybe, I don't know, you talk with your parents openly about sex. But what is the, like, who needs to know? Why does your family need to know that? Yeah, because like you don't announce to your family when you start, like, if you're straight, you don't announce that you're having sex with someone. Yeah, you don't say. I'm straight, but like we just had anal sex last night. Like you're not talking about what you do sexually even if you're like you said straight and

monogamous. Like so why would you have to do it if you guys were sort of open like this? I just don't think it's anyone's business. I was just wondering because you say it's so obvious and it was to your wife if there's ever been questions within your family. If they've, you know. Oh, there's definitely been, I think there were questions and others always meant teasing by their family.

Oh, really? Yes. Like as a teenager My family He's teased me But like Me and my best friend We're gonna like

Come out together And was that the guy You jerked off with? No, no, no, no. Oh, that's so funny Another friend Right, right, right And now when you told your friends

Were all that were they all like Oh yeah, duh, we all knew? Yeah Well, okay So it's a very close group of friends So like They already know that my wife pegged me Oh, okay

Yeah, and so like That wasn't a surprise to them at all. Yeah, I see I was born in the wrong century. You have it so much better. Oh, no, I understand. That's so great that you could tell your friends that and nobody's like, you know what mean?

And everyone's cool with everything. Yeah. But it's also like the people of your generation that had to fight so that my generation can be more out and uncomfortable. You think? Yeah, like the older generations, like the people who really had to like fight hard so that they could be recognized as like I've been getting into the bisexual community as a whole too.

And like you talk about like in the 80s and 90s, a lot of people had to like raise that bisexuality was a valid sexual orientation. Right. They weren't, they weren't accepted in the straight community because they had sex with the opposite same sex. Or the gay community, right. Yeah. Yeah.

Because they, so like there's a lot of that. in the bi community, but, like, seeing themselves as being valid. Yeah. And then, like, even if you're bisexual, or you identify as that sexual, but you're in, like, a hetero relationship. Right. But, like, you're still sexual. Yeah.

That doesn't change anything. Right. But so it was sort of change. It has been being changed over time, right? And then you guys get to benefit by it. Um, which I think is really great. Mm-hmm. And I think that, you know, I, listen, I always think, like, as long as you were a

you're capable of changing and doing things. And I think I've had some older people on here who have been really bold to, you know, be honest about who they were with their partners. And those stories are really great. It's always great to hear stories of younger people being themselves with each other in relationships. And I think that that's like, you know, there was always so much divorce. And I think a lot of it happened because there was cheating and stuff like that that

went on because people were able to be honest about who they were and what they were into, you know, whereas I think you have, especially you and your wife in particular, have a much better chance of staying together forever, right? Because you are open with each other. Yeah. And some of that comes from us being each other's only because like we've essentially, our sexual exploration has been together and it's been like oh do you want to like try this and I'm like oh I really feel like trying this and being like no I don't really feel like that like it's always bad in that that dialogue around sex with us but but I think probably one of our greatest strengths yeah and that's super important and I think more people need to do that with each other and I think that you know you don't have to

be sort of it's not like you come right into a conversation about it and tell your partner everything right I'm sure you guys, you didn't tell her about pegging. Well, you said you do it early on. But I mean, eventually you just let your partner know what you're into. And most likely if they really love you and care about you. Like, and it's the person that you're with, like they will be accepting of it. I just think some people are just too nervous to even, you know, allow for that to maybe happen. Right?

Yeah. I also think some people have problems taking no for an answer. What do you mean? Yeah. Well, I mean, like, like, because, like, a lot of people cheat because they're not getting something at home where I think sometimes you have to accept, but, like, maybe that's not, it's not in the car. So, like, like, I've expressed a lot to, like, have anal sex with my wife. Mm-hmm. But it's just logistically not possible. Right. Like, like, like, I'm too thick and her ass is too small, but, like, it would be nothing.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to happen. Right. And so, like, I think a lot of people would be, like, some people would take that and try to find that somewhere else. And instead of just being like, well, I've got all this other great stuff going on. Right. Exactly.

Some people, like you said, they can't take no for an answer. Yeah. There's so many different reasons why people cheat, you know, and there's so many different scenarios. That's why I love to have, that's what I like about doing my show because I think when you really talk to people and get all the information. about the story, you see that each one is unique and you can't be so judgey of it. You can't say just cheating is bad in general. You know, you have to get the whole story before you really judge or no, you know. There are sometimes where it's that, you know, they really do say it's a man and he's totally bisexual and he really wants to be with a man and he knows that his wife will never accept it and then he's cheating on our, you know, it's not the right thing to do at all.

but yeah or or you have that one oh I can't remember her name I want to say Christine the gang banged all the guys yeah but then like you got her brought her back on and like we find out there's a lot of stuff going on with her husband oh my god I love that was like one of my favorite three part stories because it it went into into a totally different direction that I didn't know the more I questioned her yeah yeah right and I yeah where like there's she she was definitely like I think she's unhappy in her marriage and like

she's going like eventually she's going to leave her husband oh she left her husband you didn't hear of the third one oh no I didn't hear the third one you know that was an old episode that I aired and I re-air it every now and then when I want to do a repeat and I just don't have the time to edit a new podcast every once in a blue mood

just gets hits on it yes because it's one of the most popular ones and I always have new listeners so I look you didn't know that it was you know because I've been doing my show five years, right? So it was like three years ago I posted it. And I did the second one. There's a third one. I'll send you the link. It was so fucking fascinating. The third one was even more interesting. It was probably the most interesting. Okay. Yeah, I laid into her. I might have to tell everyone I'll, I'll air that one too. But yeah, the third one is even more interesting because you get the story. And that's what,

you know, that's what's interesting to me. That girl, I had to talk to her three times. to get really to the truth of that whole situation. With other people, sometimes it just takes one conversation where I ask them a million questions, but that's like the premise of all my, my whole show, right? It's like if you get all those sort of details,

maybe you're going to think very differently about this scenario than you did just maybe reading the title, right? Yeah. Well, because like the first one was like very sexual, very hot. And then like I listened to the second one and I was like, this is really sad. I know.

I'm sorry. I know. No, it went and, but that's what I love because I didn't know it was going to go there and it just did. And then the third one goes into, it's even more interesting. It really is, but it turned into a totally different thing, which I love, you know. Sometimes I feel like I'm cock blocking people to the SEX stuff because that's what a lot of people are here for. But I'm just naturally curious about everything. My show did not set out to be a show about sex, but it just sort of happened or, and, you know, and that's great.

but I just like human nature and analyzing it and listening to people's story and human beings in general and who they are and what they do and how fucked up we all are, you know, and interesting. To me, I find it interesting. You know, I find people interesting. Like, your whole story is interesting. It's great. You know, and I think it actually gives people, older people hope, right? It also just shows what's going on out there in younger people's lives.

You're maybe getting get some action. on your Reddit page. Yep. Right from this, which is maybe what you want, right? Is that what you were coming on for? I don't even know. No, no, no. I've always been a sexually open person.

Like, I love talking about sex to the extent of, I keep going back in and out of school, and so I'm going to school to be finally going to become a sex therapist. Oh, you are? That's awesome. I'm going to do sex. Yeah, I want to particularly work with. married couples and trying to help them work through like kink related things.

Uh-huh. Yeah, that's great. And the communication based around those things. And so I really just like to talk about sex, but like in my job, I don't have an outlet to, or like in my life, I don't have an outlet to talk about it that much. Right. So when I get a chance to talk about it, I take those chances. Yeah, that's great. And what a great therapist you'll be because it's not like you're just going to be coming to people with sort of solutions and advice that you read in a textbook, right?

It's like you've sort of, you've lived it, right? And that's like I think that will really help you sort of empathize and understand the people that you work with. Of course. You know, but I think a lot of people don't have that, you know, when they become whatever kind of therapist. But I think that bringing that to the table as a person with all your experience. experience, people will really, you know, be able to relate to you and open up to you. I think that's why people call into my show and are so honest, because I've been through a lot and I could relate to a lot and I'm super non-judgmental because of everything that I went through, that it helps, you know?

And then people sort of sense that and feel very comfortable being completely honest with me because they know I'm not going to judge them. So I think you'll have that and take that into your new career. And then you could start a podcast. I mean, that's what I don't have on my show. I'm always like, I give unprofessional advice. You'll be somebody that will be. giving professional advice. Exactly. Exactly. You know, and your market, let me tell you, when you go after the older people, you're

going to get, you'll get some people. But anyway, so thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story, Fred. And if people want to see Fred in real life, they could go to, you don't put face picks up, do you? I'm sorry with that. There's no face picks on there, are there? No, no face pics. Okay, okay.

So if you want to see Dickpigs and some videos, go to Reddit and go to Bearded Daddy 90 and you'll see him live there. But anyway, thanks so much for calling in. Thank you so much. Thanks, Fred. Keep me posted when you guys open up. I know like a year from now. It's going to happen. You guys are very close.

Yeah, if I'll definitely let you know. Okay, cool. Thanks, Fred. Bye. Yeah, bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that. my book, it's called Strictly

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Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over-the-top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories, 17 of them. They're really short.

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