Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 313 - Gangbang Christine's Open Marriage is Totally Over

Episode Date: December 9, 2019

Gangbang Christine (episode 276 & 277) calls in again with an update and reveals her and her husband are splitting up. How and why is her marriage ending? Is she still dating the well hung guy she met at the ganging? Is he the reason her marriage broke up? How is her husband dealing with the end? Tune in for the details plus hear all about the real issues they were dealing with prior to opening up their relationship, how those issues led them to him allowing her to gangbang and whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So if you want to do that, send me an email to this podcast at gmail. This week, I had no time to edit one of the, the podcast that I have taped. So I'm re-airing one that everybody emails me about. I have re-aired Christine, the gangbang Christine, the girl who like fucked five gang guys in a gang bang and her husband said it was okay. I did one episode with her and then and that's like so people just love that episode. And then what happened is I air the second episode where things are a little bit different after the gang bang and things start to change with her and her husband. Right. And people write in all the time like wow that story like I couldn't believe what happened after the gang bang and people

have all kinds of um advice for like what Christine should do after they listen to the second one. What most people don't know is because I've been doing my show for five years. I had a third part to that gang bang story that I taped and it went even in a crazier place. Is that the right I was like, it was like one of my favorite episodes because, not episodes or just whole story. It was three parts, but it was one of my favorite guests to talk to because things, the more I talk to her, the more that got revealed. And it just goes to show that you sometimes have to ask a lot of questions and talk to people for a long time to get the real truth or the right, because things are sort of different. You find out different things about her and her relationship with her guy on this third

episode. So I'm re-airing it because I get emails about her episodes constantly and people always asking for her to be back on. I can't find her again. But this is the third part to her story. And you learn a lot more. I'm not going to tell you what you learn. You're going to have to listen to it. I know you will. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Christine. So they say things come in threes, right? This is your third time of my podcast. I had, yeah, I had reached out to you like I did most of my callers from 2016 looking for an update. I had already gotten an update from you a little while back because people were very into your episode. You were Christine. You had two episodes. I should really have the episode numbers here, but there was one where you had a gang bang, right? That

was the first time you called in. You were a married woman who got the okay, right? From your husband to have a gang bang with a bunch of black guys and your white and your guys way, right? Yep. That was the deal. How many guys again did you do at that podcast? I was a big difference. At that event. Yeah.

I do podcast. You do, or geez, gang bangs. A little bit more interesting. How many guys that you do again at that game? Four guys. Okay, cool.

And what happened in where we left off that first episode is that you met a guy there that you had like sort of an instant connection with. Oh, okay. So your episode that you got gang bang by a bunch of people. that guys is 128. So anyone wants to listen to it. It's a great episode, right? And where we left off that episode, I mean, you're going to get a lot more details if you

listen to the episode. But where you left off that episode is that you had met a guy and that you really connected at that gang wing. And you started, you had exchanged numbers, right? And then we did an update show. And by the time you called back in, right, you were dating that guy and you still had a husband. And I know that I did an update show with you because a lot of guys.

wrote in about that episode and they wanted to hear more right and it turned out that that episode was very different and I was like oh no I hope my listeners aren't disappointed right because there wasn't a lot of SCX talk in that episode it was all a lot about your relationship with your husband and that kind of stuff and honestly the person who like one of the guys who was like obsessed with your first podcast after that podcast aired he was like oh my god that was so interesting and it made so much sense right so you did do another episode. It was number 138. And we talked a little bit more about your husband because I was a little bit like, how could this guy totally be okay, right? Because what you told us on that episode was that you were now dating that other guy. You were in a full-fledged relationship with it. And he was just like, okay,

but not really, right? Like people would have to listen to that episode because it turned out to be really interesting and it really put the pieces together because I didn't. I don't. I, didn't think it kind of made that much sense because he wasn't really getting anything out of it for him to just let you go. But what it was was that he had some issues sexually speaking, right? You guys had major issues in your relationship. And I felt like, and I think you agreed that it was kind of like he had no choice. He was most likely what I thought, probably not really like a willing participant in this scenario. but I don't think that he, and I think, like I said, you agreed that he had any options, right? Like, he was kind of stuck with you, and this is what you were doing because you had had, like, this rebirth. You were going through a very major change in your life.

You had lost a lot of weight. That's what made you want to do the gang bang. You were stuck in a bad marriage, but you were like, you were like at a place in your life where you just, like, got your shit together and you wanted to live again, right? So that's what the gang bang came up, and then that's when, like, you were focusing on all these problems and the new boyfriend. with your relationship, right? And then shit hit the fan in your relationship, right?

And that's where we're at now. I'm a lot of stronger at with my husband and a little bit with the other guy that I originally were the guy that I was dating. I wasn't so much to hit the fan with him. It's just, you know, we were, you know, fairly,

we don't think of her quite a bit. But at the same time, you know, and I under his foot, that he was so single, he was going to see other people because I was married. I am married, you know, I'm not going to, I wasn't going to ask him to just exclusively see me when I'm going home to my husband every night. So, shortly after my last episode, you know, we realized with my husband that he was having a pretty major breakdown.

we actually ended up in the ER both behavioral health and regular ER and in a lot of his offices trying to get him help and he ended up being diagnosed with bipolar. Oh, poor guy. Well, what happened? Did he freak out though? Listen, because I don't know. When they diagnose people, sometimes you just don't know. Like, I mean, maybe he was just having like the stress of everything that was going on.

Like, was he always bipolar or no? Yeah, yeah. So, and wouldn't you know, my dad is bipolar? Yeah, I think we discussed that before. Yeah. So we, you know, it was pretty, when I looked back at two of the signs and some of the, some of the stuff that went on in our marriage long before any of the other men in relationships and any of that happened, you know,

I really see a lot of signs of, you know, major depression and a bipolar in him. And because of that, you know, the FSRIs that he was on, not only were they affecting him sexually, but they were absolutely wrong for his type of depression. Yeah, that's pretty bad because there's a special concoction if you're bipolar compared to something else, right? So they weren't leveling him out at all. No, they were really hurting him. Oh, God, that's terrible. Yeah, I think a lot of it really led to the numbness.

Mm-hmm. Because, you know, I was part of the reason why it was so easy for me to be in a relationship with someone else when I was family was because he didn't fight for me at all. You know, and that was kind of a disappointment, I guess, that he wouldn't say, no, no, you're not going somewhere else. for my life, you know? Yeah, but let me ask you this. Were you, like, consciously, like, looking for that, or do you look back and realize that now? Because it wasn't like a game you were playing,

because that kind of sounds like a game, like, you know, you're like, oh, I want to go straight just because you want him to step up to the bat. But that really wasn't the way that it worked. It's more like looking back that you realize that maybe on some level you were looking for that, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think so. You know, I was looking for something to truly.

that he really wanted me, you know? I mean, the sex wasn't there. I didn't feel attractive or desirable to him. And I thought that he was really abandoning our marriage, and there was just nothing that he was indicating that he really truly wanted to be married. You know, I think it, to me, I felt like it was more of a convenience, and I'm more of a caretaker for him, which is what I really ended up being this summer. you know he doesn't have much of the support system he chooses not to have much of the support system

and you know it has been my responsibility to make sure that he's okay for years and years so once so so after the bipolar diagnosis you know we've been seeing a lot of therapists individually together um once that happened you know it was kind of like a I guess the switch flipped for me and it hasn't flipped back and I had to tell him this that, you know, I can't go from being, you know, your caretaker and almost a mother and a nurse and someone that's responsible for your well-being back to being a wife, you know, like there's just not immediately, you know, and he, once he started lifting from his fog, he kind of realized, what was going on.

After the SSRI, he's out of the system, he felt like maybe he wanted to be sexual again, and I just was not feeling it. Okay, let me just play devil's advocate, because I know there's a lot of guys listening right now, and this is what guys are thinking. Okay, because guys are always want to think that girls are cunts, right? Like, they all secretly hate women in a little level, right?

And I know that there's a lot of guys listening and thinking, like, what a bitch. like this guy, right, let her go, fuck other guys, let her have a relationship. He was diagnosed with something that he was like being fed the wrong stuff the whole time, right? It wasn't really his fault, right? So he was half checked out. He let you go do other things so that you could get your needs met because he wasn't sort of meeting them.

And now he's finally figured his shit out. He's coming out of his own. And you're like, no, I'm not interested. see you later. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. And, you know, the thing is, that was really like, you know, we can look back at six months that I was fucking other guys and had another man in my life. But we're looking at years and years.

Honestly, the two of us really being in our own little silos, even though we're married, you know. Looking at our marriage, it was a lot of pit for chat, a lot of, well, I did this, so you need to do that. there was never really any we or us. It was always what's in it for me, kind of. And. What, for both of you? Both of you were like, what's in it for me? Okay, cool.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, thanks to some good therapists, I really also, and also thanks to the other man who, you know, was there and traveled with me and, you know, I travel for work and, you know, really opened my eyes that, you know, I've been married for seven years to someone who really hasn't, we haven't been partners for most of those seven years, you know. Were you dating before? How long were you dating before? About two years.

So we've been now together. It's been almost 10 years. Okay. And like how many years into it? Like you feel like the whole time there was like no real relationship going on for seven years? I would say the first year was pretty good. Then we started trying to have children and we found out about all of our infertility issues.

My husband's having the issue he does and that's when I've just started going downhill, honestly. Right. And let's just say, let's just explain what that was because that takes, we talked about that on a different podcast, but if people haven't listened, the deal is like the infertility is that he has a very, very, very low sperm count or something going on with his sperm that. He can get someone pregnant.

He just needs to do IVF, right? And you didn't want to do that, right? And why do you think after all of that, like I don't know how many years you tried or anything like that, but why do you think that after that things went downhill? So comes down to his, I should say to his. It comes down to, like, he felt a lot of pressure to perform when I was ovulating when we were trying.

Uh-huh. I've always had a higher sex drive than him, even when we first started dating. I've had a higher sex drive and we don't really, you know, it's okay. Maybe we don't have sex every day, maybe it's, you know, three times a week. But as we got into our marriage, you know, it became where I had to pressure him for sex and it had been that way since the first year of our marriage. And it was that way since we tried to get pregnant and it never ended. And he always, he would complain to me about the pressure and that he didn't.

Yeah, he probably, this is the deal. He probably had pressure before because you were so much more horny than he was. And then let me tell you, you know, I wound up having a baby on my own, but I started out doing it with a guy, right? And so I went through all that kind of, I tried for many years of a baby before I had my baby. Yeah. Did IVs and IUIs and all that stuff. And I'm sure many people listening have gone. through that stuff as well because it's very common but people don't talk about it but you know

anyone that has done that or even tried without any of that stuff there's nothing that takes that makes sex like I was devastated at what it did to my sex life with my guy when we were trying yeah like it's really yeah really bad when you have to have sex because this is the time and you just got the sperm injected and you got to fuck at this time and like it just takes the fun at out of it and it does I could see how that could be a major strain on a couple's it's definitely a major strain on a couple's

sex life and if you're having if you had problems before that I mean it just only you know of course it went downhill because it's like it does really kill the vibe it does and then shortly they're on story you know she's trying having anxiety

and depression and all that when I put our eyes and it's just been like there just hasn't been a break for us in a good way. You know, like nothing has... Yeah, well, he got on the wrong. Like, he started to feel terrible about himself and then went to the doctor and they misdiagnosed him and gave him the wrong medication.

So he, you know, went down the wrong path, not even by choice, right? So there was no helping him, poor guy. And then you probably went down another path of not being happy. But what you did eventually is like, you were like... You got on a mission to like change your life and you know started working out and lost like a ton of weight and like felt like amazing about yourself after years of feeling really not happy. I mean that's honestly what's probably going to happen to your guy now because he's coming out and he's on the right medication. But what happened. Unfortunately in your relationship and I think we talked about this a little bit on the first podcast and this is why relationships sometimes break up.

And I don't necessarily think breakups or endings or like as bad. as people make them out to be. I think this whole you marry someone, have to stay with them for the rest of your life is the most ridiculous thing that is put on people. I really believe that like divorce has such a negative sort of thing attached to it when sometimes, and a lot of times,

you know, life, you're not meant to sort of walk on the same path with someone forever, you know? And especially the younger you get married, the more likely there's a chance that you might go down separate ways at some point, Right. And what happened in your situation and it was like a timing thing is that you sort of came into your own and at a new major place in your life at a time when he wasn't yet there. You know, and that a lot of times, stuff like that a lot of times drives couples apart, you know? And is it necessarily a bad thing? No. Like if someone doesn't hop on board and do the same kind of changes at the same time, then you become like different people at different places at your life and you're just not compatible. And I think. think that happens a lot and I don't think it's a bad thing I think eventually when you look back 10

years later like you everyone's happy and in different places and it works out but everyone thinks it's such a terrible thing and some people forced staying together in times like that and maybe it's not right you know like it is good that he's sort of at that place now but you're like way beyond it and it seems like you were not like you had like the train had left the station like you were never going to go back to that relationship, unfortunately. You did help him. Yeah. You stayed along enough, right, to help him sort of get on his feet.

Because you left him totally now, right? Well, we are separately done. So, yeah. Sorry, it's a little more than a little bit. But, yeah, it's pretty much done. Oh, are you crying? Oh. Oh.

It's just, I don't want to know regardless. And I'm just, you know that's like, the thing. It's so sucks. So I'm composing myself for me just a second. But yeah, we're living out of our house this weekend. I want it. It's sad on one hand, on the other hand, like, honestly, there is no way for him.

I don't see a way for him to grow with still having me as his wife because I grew up with, you know, my dad was bipolar and I just, like, that diagnosis to me, it's really, I feel really petty. But knowing that, I don't know if I'm ever, ever, ever going to be able to trust that he's okay because, or that, you know, he's not going to make a decision tomorrow. that it's going to be in some kind of media that's going to just crush me. Well, let me ask you this. You were with him for

10 years and you didn't even realize he was bipolar and even when he was on the wrong medication, right? Or did he have a lot of those manic sort of episodes? Oh, there's a couple of different bipolar. My dad is bipolar one where there's like really

distinctive high flying media and really distinctive low. My dad doesn't it was a lot. Now, bipolar 2 is characterized by much lower overall. So his

net You just broke up. You just broke up. Can you say that again? His me. Yeah, his me. Yeah, so his mania manifests more

as him being really irritable. Okay. And he has, he has some major spending issues. Okay, but like that sounds like it sounds like normal behavior. I mean, I know women like that and men like that. Like, you know, I mean, I know that they claim it's bipolar and I'm sure it is.

But like, you know, a lot of people are irritable and have spending problems, right? Yeah. Well, it's kind of like beyond just spending problems. It's going to get an oil change and find a new car. You know. He sounds kind of fun now. I'm joking. Like, but that's for us.

for me, like, that's not in our budget. You know, like, you just don't go buy a new car without even talking to your wife. Right, right, right. Of course. I mean, those are kind of... But those could be, listen, I think that's a lot of times couples that sort of get together wind up to have a lot of opposite sort of things. And that's why they kind of work, but they, those things...

Because somebody like him needs somebody like you, right? You're both at opposite ends of the spectrum. So maybe you both meet in the middle. Maybe you get a little bit looser with your cash and he, you, you, learns how to be a little bit tighter with it, you know? So I think that that's like, those are common sort of problems that people have in the relationship. But my point is, the only reason why I am bringing that up is because, like, you were, like, you say, like, now that you know you can never be with him.

But the truth is you were with your father for 10 years. I mean, this got, like, without you even knowing it. And I say this on my podcast all the time, like, we smell our parents from a mile away. Like, you know, like, we know. Like we know that shit Like you have been with someone who's bipolar This whole time Do you know what I mean?

Yeah That's the truth It's not moving forward You know You that's what you had You know And that's who you were with And because he wasn't medicated at all

Right He was actually medicated improperly right So now that he's gonna be on The right medication He could be different But I don't know like Like I don't know like you I know that you say you have it in your mind are you using that as an excuse because

you just feel so bad to sort of just really like come to terms with the fact that you're just not in love with him anymore even though you probably love him and always will I mean you just broke down and cried because like you said on some level it's like devastating right this is somebody that you were with for 10 years and even though it's not going to work out it's still an ending and there's massive sadness there so is it just that you don't want to sort of believe or like admit to yourself that you just completely fell out of love with him? Or, because I don't know what it is. Or are you using that as an excuse and just saying that because maybe you just want to keep continuing with this other guy

and you don't really, you're not really ready to go back to your marriage and you're kind of confused or you're like using that as an excuse of why you wouldn't go back? Do you know what I mean? which do you think it is I don't I am 99% sure I will not go back

to my marriage I think part of it is me trying to justify to myself why it's good for him for us to not be married I'm trying to look at

why it's good for him because I feel really guilty. Right. I feel really, really guilty. Well, how is he taking the divorce? How is he taking the mass of separation? I mean, you guys, you're moving now. Yeah, so it took a while for him to get there. You know, we spent the summer and I spent the summer. You know, I have been going to therapy and my therapist, like, we went to couples therapy and I went in for my

individual session with her. She's like, She's like, I've been wanting to throw you a lifeline this whole time. She said, you're drowning in this relationship. And so, you know, I've been really trying to work to get him there. And finally, things came to her head. I don't know why. He said something made him suspicious. And he went into my computer and found my archive of text messages with this guy.

Mm-hmm. And there were some things that I had said that were very unfattering to my husband. Oh, about him? Yeah. Oh, that's very unfortunate that he had to see that. And so he, but in the same respect, she broke into my personal computer, you know. It's kind of weird because, like, you guys had a very open, you were open, but this was the thing. This was what was kind of weird about your open relationship with them is that, you

he would ask you some questions about certain things, and you had a line that you wouldn't let him cross. You were kind of like, I'm going to go and do whatever I want, and I'm going to fuck this other guy, and I'm going to go on vacation with him or anything. But, like, there are certain things I will not, like, answer. This is why, like, that whole thing came up in that podcast. The second one, kind of like, what guy would put up with that shit?

Because that's kind of, like, very difficult for somebody to handle, right? And that's where his problem. craziness and going into your computer, like that's probably where it came from because, like, he knew you were having an affair. He knew so much about it, but there was a little bit he wasn't allowed to know. So, I mean, I would probably go looking to. I mean, you got to cut the guy a little slack. I mean, he didn't just go looking for no reason. He was in a very weird place and he was in of considering where he was emotionally too. Like, I mean, he had nothing else going on.

He knew his wife was literally having a relationship with another guy. And he wasn't allowed to get certain information. So you could kind of understand why he went rifling through your shit, right? Kind of. I can. I can. And he was kind of waking up from his thought. And he, there was an evening before this happened, maybe a month.

month or two before this happened, where he basically told me, if you walk out that door and go see him, and you shouldn't come back. Okay. Well, you know, you were looking for that. That's what you said you wanted. Well, yeah. And I told him, and I was like, you know what? I'm going to go see him.

And, you know, we started to really have a lot of tension over it. And he brought up the sucks. And, you know, you'll go and you'll suck this guy, you know, three times. week, but I haven't gotten any for months. And, you know, that's why I basically had to tell him that I just wasn't feeling it. You know? Yeah, that's difficult. So you could understand, but you could, like, all I'm trying to say is like, I could,

the more you tell me, the more I feel like kind of yay for him, he was also waking up as well. That he needed in a weird way, I think it must have been very devastating for him to see the stuff that you were saying behind his back. but probably really good for him to know the truth. To really know where you were at, to have it sort of smudged in his face that he would wake the fuck up and be like, no offense, but like,

you know what? I'm not doing this anymore. Like, I'm not into this anymore because he had no control over that. Like, he was being totally treated kind of like shit in a relationship. He was trapped too. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So in a weird way, it was the best thing for him. If he was my friend, I would feel bad for him, but happy for him that he finally was able to get some sort of thing that would make him be able to stand up and say, you know what? I can't do this anymore. Like this is, you know? And give you that ultimatum, you know? And for me, like that day, The next day, you know, I was really, it was really, really, really shitty.

I felt really shitty. Uh-huh. But that, I don't think it would have taken, I don't know if anything left than that would have been a catalyst for us to be where we are now. Exactly. Which I think it's going to be better for both of us. Totally. Totally. Yeah.

Like you said, he needed a bottom. You had your bottom. Like, you know, this is, that's what had to happen. and yeah you look like the worst one right for sure because you right because but yeah 10 years from now when he's happy with somebody else and you're happy with somebody else and your lives are in good places like are you gonna is it going to be like you do it you both took part in the situation that's why like when couples like have nasty divorce or whatever goes on with couples most of the time like it's a 50 50 thing going on you know I never buy into like all

one person is 100% right and the other one's terrible. Like, please. You both were like in this relationship, you both were doing things that were right and wrong and you both contributed to the demise of your relationship equally. And like I said, is that a bad thing? That's just, you know, what was supposed to happen between you guys, you know? And you're both becoming better people through it, right? Because there is a silver lining here. Like you turned massive corners in your life and this is something that you just needed to do. It was like the final thing that you needed to do to change your life for the better.

And he needed to do that as well. He was in a bad place too. Yeah. He probably could have never felt good about him sexually with you, good about himself sexually with you either. Just like you couldn't like get it up, like get into him. Like he probably would never be able to get it up with you with your guy's history of everything, with you knowing everything.

Like if he starts over with somebody new, when he's on his new medication, when he feels good about himself, like he could go in, like, you know, a different person. So it'll be much better for him as well. Yeah. I agree. And, you know, I don't think there was any way for him to get there while still being with me. And I don't think, you know, definitely not. Uh-uh. There's nothing, you know, I really, really tried. And, when I was and not you know

as I've gone through this transformation as I continued drawing it's ongoing for me I really I really tried to get him into what you know when I was doing to encourage something on his own and he just never never get it and now he's going to be doing some things

and taking you from classes and he's got a support group and you know I think these are things that had two years ago when I started caring about myself had she taken these steps I don't think we would ever be here now but yeah that's what I

said like if you both went through that major change you would have wound up to be on the same path but that's what a lot of times like at people's timing in their life like no one's right or wrong like you're not better than him that you did it two years earlier or he's later everyone has their own time

in their life to do things that they need to do and they come to figure out things and learn things and change at their own pace like I said and what's right for them in their life. And a lot of times that just doesn't jive with somebody else. And when you're married to people, and that's why I think, you know, people that get, like, married so young,

they're so crazy because it's like, how do you think it's going to last? And listen, people do. Tons of people get married to their high school suite or their car. And they last forever. And I give them fucking credit. I think that that's like soulmate stuff or something crazy. I don't know because. Yeah, it works, though.

It does for some people. but I think it's like, but I think it's like mostly scary to get married when you're so young because the odds of you staying with that same person and going through all the changes you're going to go through and that person's going to do all the changing at the same time and you're going to be in like the chances of that are very slim and that's why we see so much divorce and I like I said people think it's such a bad thing and I think it's like a natural thing that people change and grow and maybe go down different paths and then they want to be with somebody else or do other things and it's time to say goodbye.

That's why I've always been friends with my exes. I understand people that are friends with their exes and everyone's happy because they get over it because that's just life. It's not a bad thing. It's a devastating thing. I get why you're crying. I get why you're upset. I get that it's like the hardest thing.

But, you know, that's life. It's a part of life. And, you know, it will be for the better. Yeah. Yeah, and, you know, like, it's been about two months since he read the text, and, I mean, call me everything in the book, and we really, really, really tough for a while, but we've actually, you know, still living in the same time as we're so, you know, we are, we're friends, we, you know, we still love each other, and, and we've talked about that.

It's just not the same, like, I love you kiss me out the door kind of feeling. Let me just ask you just for this. I just want to know what was in those scandalous texts that he saw. Oh, God. Well, you know. No, I don't know. Part of him is a married white woman in black marriage. Right?

So, you know, it's just how much better it's dick is. Oh. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. You know. times what I would say I was doing one thing,

but I'd really be at a hotel because I didn't want to know how I was seeing this guy, you know? Oh, so you started to lie about your relationship with this guy to him, even though he knew about it. Well, he knew about some of those, he didn't know about some of the other times that I go see him, you know?

Right, but I'm saying he was like, cool with you going to see. So in a weird way, and I pin guys on this all the time, so I have to say to you, like, now it makes even more sense why he went looking and he had every right to go looking because I think that when you are like really involved with somebody and you are blatantly lying to them and then they go looking through yourself and you're like they're so wrong it's just like what do you expect people smell stuff people know stuff like you can't say oh he went crazy for no reason you were actually lying for him he wasn't dumb people aren't dumb people pick up on

very subtle things. So you were actually lying to him and that's why he went looking because he knew on some level that you were doing things that you weren't telling him. So of course I made him crazy enough to go look. That happens all the time with women and men. And then the men will say, oh, she's so crazy

because she's always accusing me. But it's like if you are actually doing things behind that person's back and lying about it, Don't call the other person crazy, okay? The other person is just fucking smart. And most people are. We all have got instincts. We all kind of know.

We can't, we don't know for sure, and that's why people go looking. But he knew, and he was right. Well, he, so, I had heard of his child, that was a few months before he was looking when I would go and do T's behind his back. When he was still very much this fog? He was? out of his dog.

I just, that was when he was very much in his bag. When he came out of a dog, I would just go hang out with my guy tonight.

And he started getting angry that I would choose to go see him instead of sitting at home with my husband. Of course. He was becoming a real man.

Yep. And then, what you were missing? That's why you didn't get warning for him because what woman's going to get a warning for a guy that's like,

yeah, go fuck a guy who's dick is bigger than me. Right. See you later. Have a good fun vacation while you're not fucking him. He was just coming into his own finally.

Yep. And he was figuring it out. He was figuring out that, you know, okay, this isn't just physical. There's something more, you know, and I think that was really, like, I think he was just realizing that I was, that I was. Even if it was just physical, I don't think he'd be okay with it. Because physically, this was a man who couldn't get it up. You weren't even having sex with him and you were physically going and having sex

somebody else. Yep. Yeah. Uh-uh. Hey, I don't know what I know. I know my part in all this. I know that. I'm only giving you a hard time more because I'm on the phone with you.

Okay. Like, I know, but I give myself a hard time too, you know, like when I go see my family place, I'm like,

look, this isn't, you know, they're really, I feel like they're really hard on my husband because, you know, there's a lot of things like, very much

I felt like you know again like we've very much them on our own island and like like like you feel I've seen two therapists you know

one than I see in my own one that I've seen with him and on my own and they all kind of say the same thing and I thought well you know people look at this whole situation

because I am not perfect here you know I don't yeah but let me ask you this do those therapists know all about the gang bangs and the other boyfriend

yeah they do And they give him more a hard time? Yeah. That's fucked up. They're wrong. Like, what do they give him the hard time for? I'm not saying that he's right, but why do they give him more of a hard time?

Well, it's more of a hard time. You know, when I, so the boyfriend, you know, I work on the weekends. I travel on the weekends and I work. And I work really, really hard. I work, you know, a lot of days where I'm working with 16 hours. It's glorious. I'm on my feet. You know, when I get home, I sleep all Sunday, and then I work a regular full-time job Monday for bread, and then I go work on the weekends again.

And I, for a long time, I've been inviting my husband, and I have to do this in order to make ends meet at our home. And I have wanted, I've wanted my husband to go with me. He's gone with me a few times, and it's been terrible, and she's shit and he complains, and I get, so frustrated and worried and finally, you know, just don't come with me. Well, at the same time, whether it's because of him being so depressed or in a fog or whatnot, you know, at the same time, nothing is getting done at home. You know, she's not bringing in any other income. He's not being only of the housework.

You know, like, it's, I have felt very abandoned by marriage, you know. Like, A, he had the opportunity to come with me and help me on the road, which he doesn't. and being he's not helping me at all at home, yet I'm the breadwinner and paying most of the bills and I'm killing myself on the road so I can make the ends meet for the new car that he bought when he got an oil tank, right? Uh-huh.

So, like, there are some of the things, and that's why I think this opening for this other man who did want to come with me on the weekends, you know, whether it's for the best or what, you know, I think that there is just that that opening was there and I was looking for someone to be that kind of help. And it was just so easy for me to, it was just, it was just, you know, there's just that opening there for someone that truly, that's, I know, but the good thing is, is that you had figured

This is why I feel more for him than for you. And this is why I give you a little bit more of a hard time, unlike your guy's therapist. Okay. And it's only because you, because you, what? I like,

I like having a critical eye turned down myself. No, you do that enough for you. This is the only reason, this is what I'm saying, is because you were, like you guys had these problems, right? And like I said,

both of you, contributed to the problems. Both of you were equally wrong, right? Let's say we start there. This is before the gang we were before. But what happened at a certain point is you went and got a lot of your needs that weren't being met at home elsewhere. You found another boyfriend. You were fucking him. You were like living another life. You had taken a step out of your marriage and were getting a lot of those needs that your husband wasn't giving for you someplace else. So you were like, ahead of him. Like you had it better than him.

He was still stuck at home in that terrible marriage that you were stuck in, but he didn't have a girlfriend giving him the things you weren't giving him. He wasn't getting fucked. He wasn't having a vacation. He wasn't talking shit about you and letting go of his terrible feelings about you to some other woman that cared about him and had a better pussy than you. You were with another. So that's the only reason why I think that there's a little bit of a imbalance that and he's, you know, he'll be.

there and he'll get there. And I think like good for you that you went and did that. You were taking care of yourself. You had like I said, had this change when you lost all the way and you finally like loved yourself enough to start sort of going out and going after the things that you wanted and sort of being that person, right? And you probably weren't that person before. So there's nothing wrong with what you did.

And you did it very open and honestly with him. Right. So it wasn't like you were wrong, right? You were like right the whole time to do that. But the only reason why I feel more bad for him is because he didn't, he couldn't do that for himself. So he was still like left in the back in this shit marriage by himself. So what did you expect him to do? What did you really, what do these therapists expect him to do?

You know, he needed to have what happened now. He was on the wrong medication, you know, get the medication. And then maybe now he could have maybe made those changes. But you guys don't have any kids. And you don't, you know, and I don't know that he could come back. to being able to have a good sex life with you after you've been with this other guy and you still have a good relationship with the other guy

so you're not willing to leave that relationship now to be with your husband right? Yeah so I mean so that's the only reason why I feel I totally am giving you a harder time and I shouldn't because like you say you give your hard time but I'm just showing you that there is a little I like I don't care if you're my best friend

if you're a guy or your girl whoever to like I always I try to be fair you know so I'm just a little little bit more on his side or whatever just because he needs it more than you do. You're more okay. You're more okay than he is. Do you know what I mean? But you weren't okay. And I don't think you're wrong for leaving that marriage. I don't think you're wrong for doing the things that you needed to do for yourself to find yourself. Like at all, like swear. Like you, I think it's all good, you know, even though it was hurtful to him and stuff. Like I said, I only, I can't believe. your therapist still put that poor guy down.

I mean, he should go find some new therapist, too, once he's done with this situation. Because he needs somebody to, like, kind of help him get to the place where he goes and gets his needs met, too, instead of hanging on to you. Because right now, you're not somebody that's going to be able to give him the things that he needs. He needs to go and find that other person as well, because you already did. He does. He does.

You know, and I really, you know, honestly, with opening up our relationship and, you know, when we were back when she was thinking about trying to explore it, my my true hope is that he would find someone that was a better foot for him. Right. So you wouldn't feel so bad.

Yeah, because you didn't want to just totally live. Yeah, of course, because you felt guilty. You care about this person. You're not a terrible person. Yeah. So, so yeah, you know, it's sad that it's ending, but at the same time, like, I'm just, you know, I think it's just better for both of us

in the long run, you know. Absolutely. I said this in that last podcast, that you were the one, like what you did as much as it sounds worse because you were the one that went, like, you did for your relationship what needed to be done. Like, this whole thing was not good. It needed to completely break apart and either it was going to be put back. together and be better or it was just going to be never put back together but you guys would go off separately and be better but you were neither one of you were in a good place or happy so you were it was good what you did it was the right thing it really was yeah yeah shit is messy shit life is messy that's why i hate these talk shows of course and it's okay and that's why i always would

hate talk shows when i was younger And I'd see, like, people and they'd be on the stage with their husband and, like, someone would say, I'm getting a divorce. And then the whole people would be like, boo, the husband that did the bad. Everyone would be so negative about stuff. Like, this is just the way fucking life goes. People have to fuck up. People have to do wrong things for things to end. Things have to be bad.

It's just the law of nature. There's good and there's bad. There's day and there's night. There's happiness. There's sorrow. Like, that's just the way that it is. People aren't bad. People are fucking human beings.

And that's what human beings do. So you're not wrong. He's not wrong. Right now I feel more bad for him because he's not, you know, but that doesn't mean that you were wrong. Do you know what I mean? You were actually the one that was ahead of the game. You were the one that brought to the table what needed to be done, which was the, you know,

everything that you did that brought this relationship down. It was good even though it doesn't seem good. Do you know what I mean? So don't let anyone judge. you or make you feel bad about yourself for what you did because that's just the stuff that happens. And like I said, when you look back, it will be for the better. Yeah, yeah.

You know, and it's funny. You know, I see so many people, you know, on Facebook, Twitter, whatever they are, thousands of people who I know, people don't know, and going off about their husbands and their boyfriend's and cheating and this and that. And I'm like, you know what? people I honestly don't feel as though you can be with the same person the rest of your life whether that means that you're in an open relationship or you're you know you break up you you move on you don't get married you know I just feel like you just got to like take things as

they are right or they work out in different ways right I mean listen I have had so many people on my show that are cheating okay And I will, and I'll probably have a hundred more, okay? And they're always like different stories. But it's just because this whole monogamy thing for the rest of your life is a little bit bizarre. I think some people can do it, right? Like you can't say that it's not 100% any way, right? But people are, the younger generation, which I think is great, are figuring out different kind of ways to make relationships maybe last longer because I think more people are coming to the conclusion.

because people like you that probably never thought they'd cheat or do whatever, you know, they wind up being in that situation because they're stuck in this marriage and they're not happy and they think I have to stay in it. So then they go do these other things. Like maybe if there wasn't, if divorce wasn't so negative or if people thought that they didn't have to stay, maybe they wouldn't do these things. I don't know what the solution is, right? But there's like things weren't really working.

And it definitely wasn't working in your life, right? But what's great about, like, you living life messy is you'll have more empathy moving forward for people in your situation. I think people are so judgmental because maybe they haven't come to terms with the shit that they've done or they haven't done enough living to really be able to understand. But, you know, sometimes you do things that you would never think you do. You wind up in situations. You never think. And it doesn't make you a bad person. Sometimes you do bad things.

But, you know, that's just life. So you can't really judge you or anyone else for cheating or not or what doing a gang bang or whatever it is. Because first of all, A, you don't know where you're going to be or what you're going to, what other people are going to, you know. So I'm always happy for all the fucked up crazy shit I've done in my life because it makes me completely non-judgmental. And that is like, I love that because I hate to like. look at people and think that they're bad or wrong for what they did. I hate when I see people doing that because it's bullshit. That's not what we're here for.

It is. It is. And it's, there's like a little bit too because, um, so I, and I think I, you know, we're like the guy and I are still speaking for,

um, you know, I don't, we, we take things day to day. You know, there's, there's,

um, I don't have any expectations. I think the minute that you have, you know, expectations are going to where you're not on the same page with someone or where you don't talk with somebody about it, but you just kind of expect things. I think that's the minute you set yourself up

to be heartbroken. So, but, you know, what we, I told him, I said, you know, he's always the only person that isn't judging me for all my shit because there's a lot of fucking shit. Right. You know, and if that's just

with him, like, there's a lot of shit that have gone on in the last nine months. And, you know, I think he's the only one that I truly can tell that knows it all.

But isn't judging me because he's, she's in that shit too. Right. And that's why that's, right. And that's why there was that connection between you guys, because there was a, you guys were on the same page that day that you met him, right? And that's how life works. You know, you feel.

Listen, I think like when you say, oh, the minute you have expectations, you get heartbroken, like that is, that is like words of somebody that is heartbroken, right? I do believe that you can expect things. And I do believe that you should. And I don't believe that it always leads to heartache. I think that that's like when you meet the right person, like that's eventually can happen again for you. I get why you feel that way now, right? And where you're at now, you are in the best kind of relationship you should be in for where you're at right now.

You guys might change and turn into a different kind of relationship in the future. Who knows what's going to happen with this guy with you? But he works for you right now. And it is perfect. And that's exactly what you need. But I do believe, because you're somebody who has. really changed and you're going after the things that you want and expect that you you don't don't believe don't think that you can't have expectations and you can't yeah because you can

one day when you're ready for it you have to do that in love and expect and the right person will step up to it and give you what you want and be the right thing and you won't be harperger do You know what I mean? Yeah. That, you know, I think, I think I've been survival, like, protect myself mode, you know? Of course. I don't want to go. And, you know, I feel over hypocritical because I always pride of myself on being really strong and independent.

And, you know, I can go do what I need to do to take care of myself. I don't need anybody else to do anything. Please. You know, I can, I can help. I can help me. I live my whole, I'm sorry, I'm cutting you up so much in this podcast. I know people are going to be like, what the fuck, but I don't really care. Listen to me.

I live my whole life as a strong, quote, unquote, woman doing everything on my own. And I've, like, very recently a couple years ago, really realized that I don't really think that there's anything strong about doing everything yourself and being alone. I think you need help. Everybody does. That's why people partner up in life. I think it's a much. better way to be. And I think that there's so much more strength in admitting when you need help

and in being able to be with somebody and be in a partnership and make that work. I think that that's so much stronger. So I don't think that whole doing it alone thing and that there's that much strength in it. I don't, I think you're strong right now. I think you are very strong. And there's nothing not strong about knowing that you need to have someone around, that you need help, that you need somebody that's not judging you. And that's where, you know, like, I know that I can do it all myself, but I'll say, like, God, it's nice to have the other person who has my back. Yes, but, you know, like, I know that he has my back.

Like, even if I don't ask him for two days, as I call him like, I'm having the most of, like, I'm having the most the most awful day right now and any diffuse who'd be like, all right, where are we gonna meet? You know? Like, it's just knowing that that person is there is really, really, but also the knowledge that if he's not there, if, that I'm still okay. You know, I'm still gonna be okay.

I know how to make, I know how to live on my own and like, I think that's what makes it better with him because again that like there's not this there's not some kind of need it's not out of a need right and there's not like you're there because you need him you're there because you want that in your life and there's a big difference I think people that don't feel comfortable being alone and haven't sort of they haven't built that sort of inner strength or that inner happiness and just being themselves and being who they are with nothing right that's like the place you have to start out and then everything else is gravy, you know, and that's how you enter into relationships in the best way possible. Because then if you don't need that person so desperately, right? You don't put on like bullshit into that relationship. Right.

So that's the best way to start off. And that's where you're at because you started this relationship in a really good place. With for yourself, not in your relationship with your husband. You know, there have been like with the guy, you know, I think we started. it as a, this is physical, this is fantasy, that you're coming over to fuck me at my house and my husband's away. Yeah. So it turned into more, you know, things got a little bit more serious going like for weekends

and going on well, you know, kind of been rich in and sometimes she's kind of building to someone else. Right. And this person doesn't know about me, you know, and this woman, I don't know, I don't think, from what I, from what I, from what he's told me now, like, things are not as serious as they were over the summer. But over the summer, she was a girlfriend. Uh-huh. You know, and I went through a period where I was like, oh, my God, well, I have to try to try to be something different than when I am now because obviously, you know, this woman knows something that I don't.

And I, I had to take a step back and be like, you know, I shook my thoughts and I was like, stop. You know, like, if this, if he chooses to be with someone else, it's not because of me. It's not because I'm not good enough, like, I'm not going to change who I am because he's enjoying someone else, you know? Right. That honestly has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with her. She's single, and I'm married, and, you know, and I really had to kind of, like, break this old habit of trying to be, different because, you know, and not be true to who I am now because of what I felt they needed

me to be. Right. Surprise. So I am, you know, four months later and, you know, he and I are the better place than we've ever done because I've just been true to myself. And because, again, I don't need him. I am okay. Right.

I'm okay. that's important and I think of that quite honestly I think to him like that's more attractive than anything else of course yeah there isn't that pressure on this relationship because of all of that and you guys met and you're in the same position kind of I mean yeah right so that's why it's working right now between the two of you again like you know I don't want to be I I always felt this, like, disdain for women who would go from one relationship and do another relationship.

And, you know, and I look at myself, I'm like, look, I can't judge those women anymore. I don't have no idea with their, like, what they're situation-wise. You know, I look at my situation, and I'm like, you know, this is what it is. And if I'm not going to, in a more serious relationship with this person, you know, that's where circumstances left me. and, you know, I'm not going to turn down being happy with someone because I don't feel like it's, because I've looked down on it in the past, you know. Yeah, some people are relationship people. I know people that go from one long-term relationship to another, though, just not happy being alone.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. People are, like, different, you know? I don't think that, you know, like you said, you can't really judge anybody. Everyone, I see patterns in people a lot, people's lives, and some people have that pattern. I know friends that have that pattern, and I think that that's just what they do. they stay for a long time in their relationship. So there's something wrong with that. For you, you know, you had your husband, you had that seven years.

You'll probably wind up in another long-term relationship. I don't know if it will be with this guy or somebody else. This guy might be transitional, but it's great that you have him. Yeah. I'm really thankful for what, again, for him just having my back with all of this. I know. it can't be easy to be involved with someone who's married. Right.

You know? So, you know, regardless of what the status he started out as, I mean, we're kind of beyond that now, you know. When you get eight months into something, you're kind of beyond just, you know, the gang, bang and couple of weird fantasy, right? Right. Uh-huh. But, yeah, you know, it's just, it's a really weird place in my life. life right now, but I'm, you know, I guess I'm just kind of looking forward to wherever it goes. And if I end up single, if I end up, you know, who knows what I'll end up, but I think it's going to

create more gross than I would have staying in my marriage. Oh, I think you're going to wind up with a, I'm going to tell you what I think, okay, because this is my psychic premonition, because I make premonitions in the right. I think you're going to wind up with another guy eventually in a long-term relationship, I've been a really good relationship. Probably married again. That's what I think. But I don't think that's going to happen in three months.

I say like maybe a year and a half, maybe like a year and a half from now, that's going to that's what's going to wind up happening to you. I think you're more of a relationship person than you are of a lone person. I don't think you're going to be alone for that long. You might even have this guy all the way up until you meet somebody else. But I think you will wind up having another relationship with somebody else. But like I said, like I said, it won't happen right now. but probably like a year and a half, I think.

That's what I think. And I need to know if I'm right, because a year and a half will go by so fast. Really quick. I can't believe it's been like eight months since everything started, you know. I mean, it's just, you know. Right. So eight months will go by so quick.

Yeah. Yeah. Quick question, because we're going to wrap this up. But like, did you and this guy, have you guys just been having like sex with each other? Have you done anything sort of crazy like you used to do like with the gang bang or are you guys just sort of like just regular sex? Just the two of us. Just the two of you, right?

So you haven't done. I mean, no. I mean, it's really good sex. And I'm really surprised that it's as good now as it was the first time. Right. Usually I get bored, but, you know, not with him. I mean, we've talked about, you know, I think we like to have another woman join us. I think, you know, I've got a friend that I really would like to join us.

She's in a Polly relationship with her husband, but she would enjoy, I think she would enjoy, I think she and I would enjoy each other and enjoy pleasing him as well. So that's kind of on the table. It might happen in the next couple months, so because I'll let you know. Yeah, see, there you go. That's why you need to be single for a year and a half. You're going to live out all these fantasies. And then you're going to wind up in a regular relationship.

That's what I say. That's what I think. But, you know, I think, you know, we'll go out and we'll be like, you know, she's hot. We could take her back or, you know, we've talked about, you know, finding another woman. We just, it needs to be the right one. Right. And I think, you know, he's got a couple buddies. I think if we drank or smoked a little weed together and all ended up somewhere, you know, I think things might go.

down that road, but since the gang bang, I mean, he and my husband are the only two people I've stuck with, and I haven't slept with my husband for a month. Wow. You know, and I know that he's drinking with a other woman, and it doesn't

bother me, because I have to be thankful for what I, you know, I, I, like, I'm fine with what I have with him. And, you know, I can't let another, that other woman that he's sleeping with. make a difference between me and him.

No, he's like so perfect for what you have right now. Don't ruin that by like getting so caught up on what he's doing when he's not with you. Because you have shit that you have to take care of. So you don't, you can't give him 100% anyway right now because you're still like, have this marriage thing that you have to deal with and you're moving. So, you know, it's good that he has somebody else a little bit on the side

because you can't really be fully president in a real relationship right now anyway. So I think that's smart to just not even take that into consideration. No, and it was, it's funny because I, you know, when now you know that they were getting more serious, you know, I told them, I'm like, I don't want you to lie to me or hide things for me. I said, I know that, you know, tell me what's up with her. You told me what's up with her. I said, I'm not freaking out of you. He's like, this is so weird because I'm used to really freaking out. I'm like, just don't, just don't hide shit for me.

If you can't go with me on a weekend, tell me it's because you're with you. her. Then I'm not going to bother you. I won't send you naked pictures, you know? Like, I respect your relationship with this other woman. And, you know, he told me that he felt, you know, kind of an instant connection with her the same way that he and I did. And I'm like, if that's the case, I can't deny you that. Right. So, you know, and if it ends up that she ends up with her, then I'm happy for him. Oh, yeah, then you'll wind up to. with somebody else. But for right now, I think he's not going to be going anywhere anytime soon anyway,

especially if you keep that threesome on the table. Just keep that threesome on the table with him. He keeps him. He sticks around for the head, he told me. He what? If I just keep, he picks around for the board up. So I just have to keep giving them proud of that's fine. Oh, okay.

So there you go. Okay, so keep that. But also do that too. Just keep that, you know, that threesome lingering in front of them. It's dangling, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then until you're. you meet somebody else and then you can let go of them.

But anyway, I think that, you know, I think that's great. So, you know, maybe you'll call back in when you have that threesome. But thanks so much for this update because that was heavy, hardcore stuff. But I think, you know, good, uh, good listen for people because I think a lot of people go through this kind of massive change at some point in their life. But maybe next time you come on, it'll be a little bit more fun and you'll tell us all about your threesome. Yeah.

Yeah. I need to have some more, I need to have some more good stuff stories. because while it's not going all, you know, meet somebody with a bang like that. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Where do you go from there?

Yeah, Christine, the gang bang. I think people want to hear some more story. So go to work on that in the next couple months while you're dealing with all this pain. I have a little fun. And then call back in and give me the stories. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to speak with you.

Totally. Good luck with everything. All right. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye. Okay.

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