Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 315 - April Loves Pegging her Guy

Episode Date: December 23, 2019

April calls in the talk all about how much she loves pegging her guy. When and how did she first realize she was into pegging? How does it make her feel? How did she get her guy into it? Does he like to be pegged? Tune in to find out plus hear all about how she caught her guy cheating, how that led to them full on pegging, how she caught him cheating a second time, plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Now, we get the whole story of how her and her guy got into pegging. It's a very slow. It was a very slow process. It's not like she put on a strap on and just fucked him in the ass. And when you hear about the catalyst that got them into, actually got her into going out and buying the strap on and then fucking him in the ass. You won't believe it. It really sort of came out of nowhere for me too. I was super shocked. But that's what she explains. How they got into it, how they solely worked their way into it. What was the catalyst to get them to really actually do it? And then what happened to afterwards? and what's been going on. There's cheating involved in this story. There's pegging involved in the story.

And the way cheating and pegging are connected in the story is super interesting. And we'll take you by surprise. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with April. How are you this morning? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm good. So you wrote into the show saying that, and you didn't give me a lot of info, which I prefer, right?

I always say that that's how I like it. But you had said that you were really interested. to pegging your man. Like, I think you just wanted to cop to it, right? Like, it's not only that you're doing it, you actually probably, right, really love it. And maybe that's a surprise to you. I don't know. Yeah, I definitely enjoy it.

And I've never talked about it before. I mean, not even really with him. It's weird how it even happened. But this would be my first time actually discussing it in detail. Right. Now, is he the first guy that you pegged? Yes. Okay, so give me a little Baxter and you.

How old are you? You're 30. Okay. And how long you've been with your guy? It's been three years. Three years. Okay, so how did the whole, if you had never pegged before, right? Yeah.

How did the whole pegging thing come up? Like, is it something that you knew you wanted to do when you liked it? Did your guy bring it up? No, absolutely not. I had no idea. I knew I would like it. He did not ask for it. He did not set it up.

What happened was we would have sex and it started off very slowly, very gradually. I would start by, we would have regular sense. I would start by giving him a massage. And I would have him lay on his stomach. I would decide him like from his feet working my way up. And he has a really nice body, he has a nice ass. So I noticed that when I would massage my way up, whenever I would get by his ass or, you know, like his inner side, he would just swarm all over the place. I can tell that he really liked, because I didn't used to, you know, I just don't normally touch him there.

But I'm not going to lie, we have sex, I do smoke a lot, especially it makes the sex really good. So I guess it would be in a little bit more. Yeah. Okay. I guess it just makes me a little bit more uninhibited and just kind of less judging because I'm just way more open. So I noticed that whenever I would get to that part of his body, he would just swarm so much. And I can tell that my touch would be like super turning him on. And then I would just kind of, I wouldn't just like take a finger in there and nothing like that.

I would just slowly massage it. And then I would, like, kind of straddle him as I was massaging his back. And I noticed that whenever I would straddle him, like, put my private parts on his ass, he just, he loved it. He never actually said, you know, I really like him to do this. But I could tell that his reaction was just, like, through the roof. And, like, he would flip me over. We would have great sex. and it's like every time we got together when we could have like, you know, full on six, but I had him quickies.

I would try to just test him to see how far I could go and to see how far he didn't let me go. And then one day, it gradually progressed from me, massaging him to straddling him while massaging him to me kind of like humping him, no underwear. he's got his ass. Right. While you're sitting on naked, he's naked and you're like grinding him into his ass, right? Yes, and he never stopped me. He really, he seemed like he enjoyed it.

He seemed like he liked it. He never would stop me. And as I was just kind of seeing how far he let me go, I really started liking it because it feels really good as far as just the hunting part. Right. And then that lasted for a while, like maybe, like even a few months that we would just kind of be in this phase where we kind of hump each other, almost like in a row reversal type of thing. Right. Like he, how can I say this?

Like, it was weird like he would get on top of me and kind of like hump me like he was riding me. And then I would some kind of way, you know, get behind him. and I'm thrusting behind him, you know, like I'm fucking him. And it just, we did that for so, for a few months. And, you know, while I was doing it, you know, in between the time, you know, when we're not having to take, I always think about it. Because it was, I guess it was just something about being in a different position because I'm, I'm a female, but I'm always getting fucked.

So it felt different to be behind him or having this different feeling of him on top of me, you know, like he was riding me, but I would always think about it. So one day I just asked, well, when night I just asked. And I said, can I fuck you? And then he said, I knew he was going to ask me that. And I was like, well, and I was really nervous about asking him because, you know, this is

not something that you just ask somebody, even if you're together. Yeah, especially guys, because men could be so homophobic, right? I mean, so many guys are so anti-any-any-any-kind of anal play because they're so petrified, it means that they're fucking gay, when they don't realize, like, they would probably love it, right? It's very, there's a lot of nerve endings in there, and it feels fucking good, right?

But they're so paranoid that I was going to say in the beginning when you were saying, like, you didn't talk about it and you just did it. That was probably a good thing because maybe if you did, he would have got, like, closed off to it, right? Because he would be buried what you were thinking, whatever. So what did he say when you said that? Well, he said, he was like, I knew what I asked him there, And I was like, well, and he said, well, he was like, no.

He was like, maybe when I get a little older. So, excuse me. Oh, God, I hope he didn't hear it. Excuse me. So this is a little back now. I'm older than him. He's a little younger than me. We're about four years apart.

Okay. And at the time, I think this was maybe even last year when we talked about this. I've kind of been experimenting with this for about a year now. next year to be like two years or so. So he was like, well, maybe when I get a little older. So I'd be impressed the issue because I kind of felt like it was very, very taboo. And I just felt like it was very me in his part. Even though he's my boyfriend, I just felt like me asking him for fuck is a bit much.

Totally. No, that was smart to back off. Yeah. Yeah. So I just back because if it were me and it was like, I asked me, and he, you know, has fixed me. And I said, no, I would not want him because he was asking me. So I backed off.

I didn't bring it up. I didn't talk about it. But I did ask again. And he said no again. And so I backed off again. But I did tell him, I was like, I think you like it. And I said, I think you would like it. Yeah, of course.

and so I backed off again. But the crazy way how it actually had is how it actually happened is conflict of. Well, let me ask you a question before you tell me exactly how it happened. Okay, so you're at the point where you're asking me. He keeps saying no, you're like grinding him. Have you ever put anything in his ass like a finger or anything? Or no, it was just you had just gone as far as the grinding each other kind of thing? A finger, yeah.

He was the first guy that I've ever inserted a finger in. Oh, you did put the finger. guy. Yeah. And he was the first guy that I've actually, like, you know, like ate his ass, like, lit his ass and he did like ass up. It was the very first guy. Right.

So, and he liked the finger. He allowed you to put it in. He was cool with it. Yep. He liked it. Okay, good. Okay. So how did it wind up happening that you were able to peg him?

Because first of all, I'm thinking, like, you don't have something just laying around, right? Like, you'd have to go by? Nope. No. No. Okay. It's fucked up how it happened. So he was on a work trip.

He was out of town. And I found out that while he was out of town, he was out of town for like two weeks, I found out when he was out of town, he had been, like, calling girls on, I guess what you may call it, a back page or something similar to that. Yeah. And like trying to pay for six. And he, we were following. So that's why I said it's fucked up how it happened.

And he had me very, very, very, very, very, very pissed off, very bad. Because we have great sex. We have sex all the time. So I just kind of feel like it's no reason for him to. To need to go someplace else. Can I ask you a question? Wait, can I ask you a quick question? How did you find out?

We have T-Mobile. Oh, gosh, we share the same phone bill. T-Mobile is fine. And everybody has, so many people have T-Mobile anyway. So you have T-Mobile. Yeah, we have T-Mobile. And his job that he went out of town for, he worked third shift. So he, and he doesn't have like a set time that he gets off.

He just gets off whenever the work is over. So when he was out of town and I never fully knew what time he was getting off, I just knew that he was acting kind of weird. He was like, he was enjoying himself. It was work, but he was still growing out on the weekends. is that gave him like a free deal, so I knew he had money. He had, you know, gotten paid while he was down there. And something just kind of told me this kind of see what his activity has been like.

So I probably shouldn't have done that, honestly, because, I mean, it really is like an immigration of privacy. But I started noticing that the state that he was in, it was a lot of phone numbers with that same area code. And so I really- Because you're looking at the bill. Because you get the same bill. Right. Okay. That's how it works. Yeah. I took one of the phone numbers and I literally Googled it.

And the girl's profile from like I guess where she advertised. Yeah. It popped up. How dumb is this guy though? How dumb is this guy if, I mean, he obviously knows you get the bell. He's making all. But that's just goes to show you that when you're hoarding in those moments, you're just, you're like a drunk person blackout. You just do stuff that.

It was just so dumb, right? Because, you know, he wouldn't do that, clear ahead it. He was doing it when he had a fucking hard on and he was like so horny and he's like making these calls and to not, because it was, it's so irresponsible, right? Of course you're going to find out at some point. You're looking at the bill. It is so fucking irresponsible. It was the stupidest shit that he could have ever done. But it definitely opened the door because I, you know, he got back.

Yeah. That's like that. It's fucked up how it happened. When he got back, he was, I'm so sorry, and it was a mistake, and nothing really happened. I was just calling around for prices. And I'm like, that's all bullshit. And I said, yeah, he was calling around for prices. I'm serious. That's what he told me. I said, that's bullshit. I said, and then he text me, he was like, I just want to see you. Can I please see you? I was like, the only way you're going to see me is if you give me what I want. And he takes back, and he was like, he was like, Like, what is that? And I was so nervous. And in my mind, at the time, I was like, you know what? If he doesn't text Jack, I don't care. I don't give a fuck. I'm willing to let this go because this was stupid.

You know, what he did was stupid. Yeah. And so at the time, I didn't care about asking him. Because honestly, I thought he was going to say no. So he said, what can I do? Or, well, I said, he said, I want to see you. I think, oh, well, you can see me if you give me what I want. And he was like, what is that?

And I takes back. And I was like, I want to fuck. And then it's crazy. And he takes back and he said, okay, just don't hurt me. And then I cannot believe it. I can. He was so, I can. I mean, listen, I'm sure the story progresses and he fucking loves it when it happens.

But at that point, he had no choice. He knew, like, he was like, you know, doing major debt. damage control. I just, I, I, I, I still can't believe that he said yes to this day. I literally dropped everything that I did. I think he couldn't believe. Listen, if I was talking to him, he'd be like, I couldn't, I can't believe that I fucking cheated on her.

She found out and she told me that the only, the only way she'd take me back is if I let her fuck me in the ass. Like, I don't think that deal has ever been made in the history of cheating. Most of the time, it's like. throw the clothes out and get the fuck out or the only way I'll take you back is if you go to therapy. The only way I take you back is if you let me look at your phone every day. You're like the only way I take you back is if I could fuck you in the ass.

Well, I had been thinking about it for so long. I haven't visited it. I don't think it's bad. I'm just saying I think it's funny because you're sitting here thinking like you couldn't believe that he said yes. And I'm like he couldn't believe that that was like what was on the, that was the way he could. that's all he had to do to get you back. Well, at the time we wanted them together,

so it wasn't like throwing stuff out. I had already, you know, technically who were already broken up and wasn't talking. So at that point, he was desperate. So I was like,

well, anyway, I stopped everything I was doing and I went to the nearest, like, and I didn't know what to get. I've never purchased. like a harness before.

Yeah. I've never, I've only had, like, as far as my personal sex toys, I've only had, like, a rabbit. So I've never actually had, like, a dildo or a vibrator. Right. Like, you know, just the one that looks like a penis, I guess. Yeah. So I was in there trying to be discreet because I kind of feel weird about my upstrap. Yeah.

Because that means that I'm about to use it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got a strap on. I just, you know, I got a strap on. And I wanted to find something that wasn't too big, but that wasn't too little, that wasn't too skinny, but it wasn't too thick. Kind of something like that was kind of realistic. Yeah. I don't know because I didn't really know what to do. So I found something that was kind of I felt like it was the size of his teeth. Yeah. And I bought it and I really didn't know who were actually going to know. do this or not. So, like, that night, he came over. And I had, I had them smoking. And he had been drinking, not together, but, like, when he came over, he had been drinking. And before he came, I smoked something. And we got the talking and stuff, and we got to argue in, and I was

crying because I was still hurt about the whole thing. Of course. Some type of way, well, not some type of way, but you know how it goes. We didn't have I didn't stick, like regular six. And then I can't remember if he brought it up or if I brought it up. But we did do it that night. And I remember going into the bathroom. I remember him. I remember him laying on the bed.

And I took so long to put it on because I've never done it before. And this is a lot of scraps. You got to put your leg in the right hold. You got to adjust it to your hip. Then you got to put the rings on the dildos and make sure it's secure. And then when I actually got it on, I felt weird as a hell. I'm like, it's kind of heavy. Yeah.

And it's just, hey, it was me in my legs. I'm like, and I'm about to do this. It was just so many feelings and thoughts in my head. And meanwhile, I left him in the room. He was on the bed, but naked waiting on me. He was like, I was taking a long time. So I was trying to hurt up because I didn't. I didn't want him to think of his mind if we're going to do this.

So it's heavy. I went in there and I have to tell you, it would be the six I ever had in my whole life. Really? For you, too. It's not. Now let me ask you this. When you're wearing that strap on, right, and you're fucking in the ass, is it, does they have something that's like rubbing your clit so you're getting turned on to at the same time? Like that, it's like stimulating you or no?

Not the one that I have, no. Okay. But you're doing it and just turning you on because of what you're doing, right? And then afterwards, I'm... Yeah, it was just, yeah, it was just turning me on because of what I was doing. It felt really, really, like, powerful. Yeah. I think it was, like, the role reversal.

It just, um, it felt really, really, really good. And what about for him? And we didn't, like, full on. I asked him, how was it? And he, he told me it was the best that he ever had. Now, when we got started in the bedroom, like that first time we did it, it was like he was another person. Like, he enjoyed it, but I can tell he was very much open. I think us switching and he didn't have to be, like, aggressive and he didn't have to, like, tell me what to do and not something what to do.

But he didn't have to be in control. I can tell that he said for him it was relaxing. I guess like the game for a part, I guess like the way it feels. Yeah. He said it was relaxing and that he, I mean, he just, it didn't feel like I was forcing anything on him. It seemed like at that moment in that time, he was a very much willing participant. And I can tell he enjoyed it because, I mean, we were like rabbits or animals. It was, it was crazy.

And listen, you can't take a dick in your ass if you're not turned on. Like, I mean, you open the, I mean, I've had anal sex, right? So I know that, like, I mean, if you're not turned on or you're not into it, nothing could get in there. It fucking hurts. You're going to say, ow, a lot. Like, if he allowed that to go in and you were fucking him like a rabbit, like, he was into it. He was loose.

Well, I went and said, initially when we started, you know, I've never inserted it before, you know. So it was, it took, it was like riding the buy. You know, I was trying to gradually put it in there because I knew how I was doing it. Oh, okay. So that first time it didn't go in totally? No, it did. No. It didn't.

Okay. Right. But from what did go in, I thought personally that he took it very well. Yeah. To full unquote, say it was like his first time. Yeah. So I thought he took it pretty good because, I mean, it wasn't that small. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, as someone that has done anal sex, like, I mean, you have to do it. And a lot of people don't like it because I feel like they've had the experience where someone just takes a dick and just shoves it in there. And that's just not the way it could go down. You know what I mean? It has to be slowly. I always liked it because I just took control of the situation and held on to their dick and it sort of guided it the way it needed to be for me because I knew what it felt like. And that's exactly what I do.

Right. Mm-hmm. Because you like anal sex for yourself. I do. Right. So you know, right? You can't just like put the dick in, right? So you were doing it.

No, you cannot. Right, right. So you were doing it kind of slowly with him, but it was like hot for you right from the get-go. Yes, it was extremely hot. It was, it is definitely something about switching. And I can't say that anyone will feel this way, but for me, it was a super, super, super turned on. like it was another feeling that I've never felt for it so very good. Yeah, and let me ask you this because I think it's interesting to other people out there

if they've never sort of thought about it or done it. Like is this, did you, because maybe it's like you have some Dom qualities or something, right? But like, did you, would you have known that about yourself before you were like humping him or, you know what I mean? Or like were there any signs of that before? Absolutely not. Right, that's what's interesting, right? not.

It's never, ever crossed my mind. I've never had those feelings before. If someone would have told me in 2019, I'd enjoy sucking my boyfriend. I'm like, you are crazy. Right, or taking control or being the dominant person. I love it. Right. It's such a great, powerful feeling.

Like, I, I mean, and after that first time, we did do it again. maybe about three or four more times, which honestly for me wasn't enough. Yeah. Because it was like too far and in between. Yeah, you really like it. And I mean, I was, yeah,

I mean, obviously I can't fuck them every day and I can't fuck them every week. So, I mean, I understand that part. But it, it, I can see why men, and I don't have a real penis I just have, you know, my trap. I can see why men, like the fuck. I understand the feeling, not just what it feels like sexually, but like

yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very powerful. It's very dominant to have somebody like give themselves to you and then you can make them feel good and then you feel good. I don't know. It's a, it's a different feeling. Yeah, that is interesting that you know, you like, you know, for any, I've never done what you've done, right? So I've never sort of been able to have. that experience, right? It's interesting that you could see something, you see a man's point of you when you do it, right? Or you get the sense that you're experiencing that, right? And that is interesting. Yeah. Big energy is real. I don't want to have a big, but when I put it on, and like one night, I put it on and I had that's a little, like a, it's not a night, yeah.

It was like a, I guess you can say like a, kind of like a sexy sleepwear or something. Not really lingerie, but it was kind of like sleepwear. Yeah. And I put it on. And I was like, you know, it was kind of like poking through. Yeah. And when I looked in the mirror and it's weird as it sounds, it looked so sexy. I was like, this is crazy.

I was like, this is crazy. but like I can really see why men feel like they need to use that between their legs. And now all those decisions that, those bad decisions that they made, because they'll do anything for some sick. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's crazy. But they would. They'll do anything for six. But them actually, I think it's all the chase and like the game because it was kind of like I chased them for a little while and I kept asking and he kept me and no.

And then when I finally got it, it felt so good. I was so happy. Oh, interesting. And I want to do it again. And, you know, I want to do it again. Yeah. And so... Did you ever get to put it totally in and, like, really fuck him in the ass?

No, I haven't. No. You haven't been able to get that part. Yeah. Even all those times that we did after that, I still have not gotten it. Honestly, because sometimes he makes me feel a little uncomfortable. so I don't like to bring it up that much. I'm like asking him again, like every now and again,

he may mention something about it. But I can't tell if he was doing it for me or if he was doing it because... He really likes it. Yeah, I can't tell. And I don't like to push the issue because I don't want to feel like, you know, I don't want to feel like... I'm just trying to have... for him all the time if you all would like to.

And you don't want him to feel like you're like obsessed with fucking him in the ass, even though you kind of are. And he, you know, and he, you know, he says, you know, I don't want to just feel like, this freaking, I just want to have this sex all this type of sex all the time.

And, and I don't know, I just haven't gotten fully comfortable with going all the way in and like, you know, really, really just full on because every time I do it

I would like in my mind ideally I would love to get it in all the way and I would love to have the type of shit where I could actually be in like full control

and like full dominant you know and just you know fuck me how he fucks me that's what I was really like now do you does he

do you stop because like you get the sense that he wants to stop? Like, have you not done that because you're like, you know, you don't want to push the issue? Like, how come that hasn't happened yet? I think it hasn't happened because it's not that I think he wants me to stop. It's that I think he doesn't express himself that he enjoys it. He's like that.

Right, right. Have you ever asked him? me that I've never fully asked him if he likes it. I would ask him if he enjoyed what we did per se, like how did it feel? And he would say that it feels good. But I don't think he wants to admit to me that he likes it, to be honest. Like he's a young guy.

Yeah. He's black. And I just don't think that he wants to fully admit to me that he likes it because I think he knows that if he says that then I may try, you know, we may end up doing it more often. I don't know. He also, I just think it's a loaded,

but I think it's a loaded kind of thing for someone to take on because I think with men, especially they then to think, does this mean that I'm bisexual? Does this mean that I'm gay? Do I want a real dick in my ass? Like I just think it comes with a lot of like to really come to terms and say like,

oh, I really like that. Some people, a lot of guys, I think, would be afraid of what that means, like what, you know, and listen, it doesn't have to mean anything. It could just mean that you like a dick in your ass, but it doesn't mean that you want a guy to be doing it. You know, he knows it's attached to you, but I think that some men would think would be afraid of sort of admitting that to themselves.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's another thing I think it is. I think he doesn't want to admit it to me or himself. For sure. And I mean, and honestly, I listen to your podcast all the time. Yeah. And I listen to the.

men because there's a few women that call in it, but it's mostly men. Yeah. And when I listen to the men, they kind of starts off, you know, with finger or pegging. Yeah. And eventually, sometimes they do want something a little bit more realistic, like a real man. Yeah. And I could understand why they would want that, especially, you know, seeing that a man has been using his peanuts on his life, and I've only been using you in my, you know, for a

year or so they have more experience it probably would feel better but i don't want him i don't want him i don't want him to think about thinking about getting some real big right so you're maybe a little nervous too about like if he likes it too much or like because if he really admitted to you let me ask you this like if he say you know two weeks from now you really fuck me this and he like loves it and then he's like really into it would you get nervous that you get nervous that he would want the real thing? Like, right now and like the present sense, no, I don't think I would be nervous since presently, but I think if this is something that we continue to do, like, the longer

we stay together, I do feel like his conscience. I feel like he, I feel like he's, I feel like he's, you know, just listen to the show and like some of these men are so sneaky. Oh my God, can you believe the stuff that they do when their wives walk out of the door? I cannot. They're so sneaky. I know, but let's just talk about your guy. Your guy is not that smart, so don't worry.

You'll find out. That is true. Yeah, he's sloppy, which is good. Let me ask you, how long ago did this all go down, like the start of the, and also the cheating? Because it all happened sort of at the same time, right? So how long ago was that? Yep.

I want to say that this probably started maybe a good year and a half ago because all of this year was no new experiences. It was just, you know, continuance. I'm thinking last year was our first year experimenting with it. But when did you catch him cheating? So like a year and a half ago? Yeah. When we first, that first time that year and a half ago, that was when.

That was when? It all happened like around the same time. Uh-huh. Now let me just ask you because, I mean, to me, it seems like you've gotten past the cheating and you were, I mean, you didn't really harp on it as much. I mean, some people would just call in just to talk about that, right? Because that would be like a really devastating thing and they couldn't get past that maybe still a year later, right? Because it is a big sort of, you know, it's a big mind. It's a total mind fuck, right? The rug is like pulled from underneath you. All of a sudden you, this person is like maybe some, you think there's somebody else, right? But so how did you? Do you trust him? Like, was it hard to build the trust? Were you able to sort of work through it quickly? Like, how did you get past it?

Honestly, no, I don't. I don't trust him. You don't? I don't. I feel like it's one of those situations where the thing about him is he's charming and he's fun. He likes to do things. I really do feel like. not only does he love me, but I do definitely feel like he likes me as well.

We do have fun together. He's a fun guy. He's attractive. He treats me well. He's not me. You know, he's not skinny. He bribes me things. You know, he, we are good together when it's good.

But I do feel like he has temptations that, you know, given an opportunity, I don't know. He may take it. He may not. Yeah, he's a young guy. You said you're 30, right? So he's like 20 seconds. Yeah.

You know, to think that, you know, and you too, to think when you do the marriage math that I always talk about, right? If like you guys live to your seven or you guys are together to think that, you know, you're, no matter how good the sex is that he will never want to be with somebody else, right? Or experience that. Yeah. And the same with you is not so like. And that's not not there's nothing wrong with that. I don't know. I think it's more natural to have some sort of curiosity for other things,

for other people, right, at some point. Yeah. I mean, I guess for me, I guess for me it's like a big pride issue because I feel like we have great six. I feel like we get along, you know, good. You know,

I'm always down to folks. To be folks or fuck. Like, I'm down. So it's just like, it is like a slap in the face when, is you want to go fuck somebody else. Right, but I think a guy.

Why? Right, but I think if a guy, and listen, I'm a woman like you, right? And if this happened to me, I would be thinking exactly like you, right? But because I'm not in this situation, I could be a little bit more rational about it and say, like, I think if a guy was on this

conversation with us and the guys that are listening would say that it's not about you. It's just about variety, right? Men need a little bit more variety. So it's just a new pussy. Like it's not about you're not good or you're not enough. It's that you and they have you and it's great, but maybe they just want it.

It's like apples and oranges, right? He's not getting another orange if you're an orange. He's getting an apple. What he's getting from that other person is nothing to do with you. Listen, I think there's all different types of cheating, right? You know, and, but there are guys who cheat just because they need that variety and they want that maybe they you know because he's super young he hasn't experienced a lot of different women i don't know um so that's sometimes what it's about it's not but i get that you feel that way

it doesn't take away from how you feel and it doesn't mean that you shouldn't feel that way you know um it's just that the reality is he's a super young guy you already caught him cheating he might be the type of man that needs that variety and he might it might not be so easy to be monogamous have you caught him cheating since? I mean, are you considering you don't trust him, do you go rifling through his phone and like snooping around every day? Actually, yes, I did just recently call him cheating. You did catch him cheating again?

Yeah. How? And I find out. See, I told you. He's sloppy. How did you find out? Well, this time I didn't even go looking. I didn't go, I didn't go looking on purpose.

Right. He was using my computer one day. And he was using my computer one day. And he was using my computer one day. And he let his email sign in. And I saw that there was a cash app request from a female. And it wasn't anybody that I knew he knew. And so I went on Facebook and I was her name of and I'm like, yeah, he's trying to, She's definitely trying to tell her.

She looks like, you know, somebody's this was about six or something. So I asked him about it, and at first he lied, and then he was like, well, I'm going to tell the truth. He was like, I met her with a friend and nothing happened, but blah, blah, blah. They exchange numbers,

and they exchanged cash stuff. I'm like, why does she use her cash up information if you just met her and it's nothing? That means that you're giving her money. That means that if you're giving her money, then she can give you something. in return or it was just an exchange of money for whatever the case was or you know I just don't know what it is but you know he had you know he has you know money to pray with he has money to spare

so it wouldn't be of a surprise to me if he met someone and you know paid them for six obviously that's what he's into because both times you've caught him it's been with like you know pay for girls, right? Like, I mean, it's not like he's hooking up, but you're not finding him like text messaging nudie selfies with his co-worker. This is all like pay for sex, hooker shit. And I did, and it's like, and I asked him straight up because I feel like I'm a real it.

Yeah. I try to have a real conversation with you. I try to have a, like, I can understand a lot of things. I don't like people mind me and I don't like, you know, I don't like people minding me, first of all. and I just feel like I asked him, I said, are you, are you playing for something in particular?

I said, do you have some kind of Spanish? I'm like, what are you, what is the purpose of this? I said, are you just having regular sex? I'm like, are they giving you something special? I just don't understand it. What's he say? And he was like, no, he said no. He said, it's just regular six.

And I'm just like, so weird. Yeah, that could be true. It's just because it's not, it's a variety. It's somebody else. and it doesn't mean anything it's hard I know it's hard this is why I think

I mean it's hard to accept that kind of stuff I feel like if like you know 100 years from now if open relationships were like we learned about them from the get go you know we would be less likely to feel the way that you feel right like we can't help but feel that way right

but I've always been like oh I believe in I wish it wasn't that way that it wasn't put on us at a very young age that oh there's this whole thing called monogamy and it exists and that's what we have to hold our men to as a standard. And when it doesn't happen, it's like the worst thing, right? And we can't help him to the way because that's what is all over society. It's shoved into our brains even when we don't even realize it, right? So you get that way.

But to be really realistic, it's like with your guy especially, okay, we know he needs variety. What do you like what do you do with that, right? Like you can decide that you could have an open release. Because I know the whole thing like what you're like he's like the lying is the worst part of it. But he probably will continue to lie to you. Right. And then so then what's going to happen, right? Do you want to lose your guy?

I would be mad all over me. Yeah. What? Well, I'm not going to lie. Recently, very, very recently, I just talked to him about this like after I found out about, you know, this particular girl. And I said, look, I'm not. I said, if you, I said, we need to break up. I don't want to do this because I don't trust you.

Yeah. And he says that he doesn't want me to leave and he loves me and, you know, and he wants to be with me. And I was like, well, if that's the case, we're going to have to have an open relationship. And he was like, like, that was the craziest thing that I could ever say. And I said, you know. Yeah. And I said, like, I'm serious. I was like, because why could you get to have all the fun?

It's things that I want to do. It's people that I turn down out of respect for the relationship. I just don't think that's fair how in my mind everything is all good, but then you are looking at the fuck other people from time to time. Like, I just don't think that's fair. And if that's what it's going to be like, then I want to end on this. If you don't want to break up with me. Right.

And what did he say? No way. That's crazy. He's not. He's not down for that. No. Of course not. Of course.

He says that he's never going to. to do it again in. He will. He will. He can't help it. Obviously. That's something that he likes. He obviously likes variety. I believe him

that he loves you. I know it's so hard to understand and it doesn't mean that it doesn't make it less hurtful to you. Right? But if maybe you could because when you put that open

relationship in a conversation the way you had it with him, it's like sort of like spiteful. You're going to fuck someone else? I'm going to fuck someone else, right? Like, that's not the way successful open relationships start, right? If you want to be... I can be very spiteful. Listen, we all can. Anyone would want to be fucking spiteful if somebody completely lied to them and went and fuck somebody else behind their back. Okay? Like, I get it. That's human nature.

I'm not asking you to be not human, right? But in order to move past it and maybe be the, because you're a realist, right? Like, you could see. say, okay, my guy likes variety. Do you really need variety? Like, forget, take this spitefulness out of it. Like, is your guy enough, or do you feel an intense desire to be with somebody else yourself? I honestly feel like my guy is, you know. I love him.

I don't want to be with somebody else. I don't want to have sex with somebody else. The only reason why I brought it up is because of what he did. Right, that's what I'm saying. Right. So let me ask you this. I'll be out of spite. I know, but let me ask you this.

So could it be that you opened it up where he could be with other people, but you wouldn't, you wouldn't do that yourself? I mean, I know for me, because I'm going to just tell you this straight up. For me, I have learned through doing my podcast that I think I would, I have that thing that people have where they would be turned on by their partner being with somebody else, right? And like, to me, my next relationship, I would keep it open that way. But for me, as a person, even when I was with my booty claw guys that I just fucked for like years,

like I don't have the desire to be with a lot of different guys. I like to have one partner and that's all that I, and I'm okay with that. I mean, I've never been with someone for 10 years. So maybe after 10 years I'd want more. But like, it's very easy for me to be with one person. But I wouldn't mind for my guy to be with other people. It would be something that would turn me on, right? So I don't, so it would be the way I would present in a relationship is like, listen, you could be with other people.

bring that back home. We could have that open. But I wouldn't because that's not what I'm into, right? But I would be into that for him. So like, could that work for you or no way? I'm going to say no. Right. Okay. So maybe, you know, you guys will break up to your when you can't take it anymore. And very well, I mean, because he just won't, I would rather have him be open and honest with me. He's not going to be open and honest with you as long. as he, the only way, listen, what you want him to be open and honest about is the fact that he's not ever going to be with anybody else. He tells you that and then he goes and does something. The truth is he has a thing for like hookers, like he wants other women. Sometimes, you know,

that's who he is. He's shown you that. You caught him twice. Imagine how many other times there has been, right? So what you want is for him to tell you the truth. The truth would be that he wants to fuck a hooker ever now and then, but he doesn't want you with anybody else. That doesn't work for you, right? So he can't tell you the truth, but he wants to be with you. So he's going to lie. That's what happens all the fucking time. Because him being with that hooker doesn't take away from the fact that he loves you and he wants, he doesn't want to lose you. Like all those things exist at the same time, which I know is hard to wrap your head around, right? Because you're like, if you love me, you wouldn't be with somebody else. But those two things don't have to be

connected in his brain. Do you know what I mean? I know that they're connected in your brain in every woman's brain. I totally get that. I've had people cheat on me and it's been the worst fucking thing, right? I get it. But in his brain, they're probably separate things. And he would never be honest with you because he knows it hurts you. He knows you don't want it. And he knows that you're going to go fuck somebody else's revenge to revenge shit. You know, and that's going to bother him. So he's not going to tell you, but he'll probably do it again.

But, you know, you could. And he could work his self out of it. I don't know. You know, I don't want to take this hot podcast about pegging. People are probably like, oh, Kathy, why do you turn it into this fucking cheating thing? But I just found it interesting because the cheating was just sort of mentioned. And I was like, curious because I know for me when I caught somebody cheating, like I turned into a crazy psychopath snooper. Like I could never trust them again. You know, I think it's really hard to rebuild that trust. And it can be slightly maddening, you know, to be with somebody that you don't trust and

always feel like they're lying to you and you're not getting the truth. And I just think, you know, that could and I was just wondering where you were at with that that's why we went down this path you know I think you just like you didn't know that you were into like fucking him in the ass and all that stuff you know you you don't I don't know like maybe you would be the type of person that was turned on by him being with you don't really know I know you don't like it now because it's been to you out of your control without you knowing, you know, in a very sneaky way. And that you could never think, oh, I'm turned on by that. But, you know, I don't know.

You never know. But I don't think you could go to, like, it's off the table, like an open relationship the way that it is. So you'll just have to go back to, I don't know, learning how to trust them. I know you have a newborn baby because you told me that. and I could cut this out if you want me to, but like is, I'm assuming he's the father of your child, right? Exactly. He is.

Right. So I can leave this in, right? I mean, that doesn't give you away. So he's the father of your baby. Yeah. And so I found out afterwards. So that's what kind of just, that's what kind of, not kind of, but that's what hurts me the most about it. It's because, you know, I was pregnant when it happened.

We were living together. And in my mind, I really thought everything was all good. And then, you know, after I had the baby, because I didn't really have, like, warning sickness and all that stuff while I was pregnant. But, like, my mind, I was, like, really mean, always irritable. I mean, I was just not the happiest person. So after I had the baby, I felt so much better. I felt in my self again because my tech job was all the way down when I was pregnant. We were not having sex like that

So, you know, after I had the baby, I felt much better My sex job went up And, you know, I was feeling good So to know that this was going on behind my back You know, while I was pregnant, why we were living together It crushes me Even though she said that Nothing happened or it was one time and all this shit

But I just don't believe it And I just thought like, it's consequences There should be consequences for what you did So it's like you can't expect me not to hurt, not to feel any back the way, not to want to do something about this. You know, you just want me to forgive you and just them the rug. No. So what have you? I mean, the first time you offered him anal sex, right?

What did you say this time? I mean, are you guys together still since you found out? Did you, like what were his consequences? Well, technically, in my mind, if we're not together, he probably thinks they were just. Right. Because I guess I didn't officially, I told him that I just thought we need a break, even though we're living together right now. It's not much of a break. But, I mean, the only thing that I suggested is calm was like the open relationship because I just felt like, it's not fair for you to have a right.

And meanwhile, I still have this thing that I want to do. I still, you know, am interested in fucking. And at this point, it's not even necessarily like, I'll fuck just you. I don't know if I would. or find another guy that would be interested. Oh, yes, you would. Come on. Haven't you heard my podcast?

They're all out. They're all out. If I gave your email address out, you'd be getting to 100 emails from guys that probably, you know, would never admit it to anybody else, but secretly they would. You'd be able to find somebody. But listen, I don't think revenge fucking is the answer to getting past it. You have to figure out how to get past all this lying.

and betrayal that's been in your... I watch the Real Housewives of like every place and Real Housewives of Atlanta has a girl on it who literally went through like... You know what I'm talking about? Like, it must be so devastating for you to watch because it's sad to see her story, right?

But it must really trigger you because it's very similar, right? She was pregnant and then her guy found out and she was doing it when she was pregnant and that just adds a whole other layer, right? Of betrayal and stuff. It makes me feel so helpless. because if it can happen to her,

it can happen to anybody, it happens to me, and it's almost like there's no escaping it, no matter who you're with, no matter what your situation is, you know, you are, it's almost like you're 100% liable to get cheated on. Right. And that's why I think, you know,

I do my podcast just because, like, I always had a lot of guy friends. And, like, I was still devastated when people cheated on me and still like, what the fuck? But, like, you know, I always knew because of my guy friends, they'd be super honest with me, like, how much most of them were to listen and there are monogamous guys out there 100% and I know this from having guy friends you know I would say like maybe 20 80 like 80% of guys like you know maybe

are not capable of cheating are not capable of being monogamous and 20% are but there are completely monogamous men out there that can absolutely just be with you and that's the way that it goes and then there's a lot of guys that that's not the fucking story you know it's You know, and that's why I do my show, though, to show you a lot of times you're listening to a guy talking without a girl around, without his woman around. And he's really telling the truth. And you really could hear a lot of those cheating episodes that the guy completely loves his girl, completely is inter, and it has nothing to do with it, you know? And sometimes that's, a lot of times that's the case. You know, so is it, is the betrayal as much as the guy who's like having a secret affair and texting 24-7 a woman in his office or, you know, going, you know, there's a difference.

I think that there's a difference. And a lot of guys, you know, and but we all sort of, as a woman, it's hard to see that difference. I get it. I get your, you know, point of view. And I understand that just a lot of guys find it hard to be with just one woman. And they like the variety. And when you're pairing up with a guy in their 20s, you know, you're less likely to find a guy that doesn't want that variety. Though there are guys out there that exist.

So maybe if that's really what you're looking for and that's super important to you, eventually, you'll have to meet somebody else. But you want to just keep that relationship with this guy, you know, as civil as possible because he's the father of your baby and your baby's super young. And you know, so I think communication between you two and trying to work on all the. the distrust and everything while it is important. But you will be able to, listen, if say things went out with him, you could find

another guy that lets you fuck him in the ass for sure. I think it's very common. You might have to go slow, but yeah, you could find it. Absolutely. Because it's something that you really like. It's something that I really like. And I don't know if it's just a phase and I'm just trying to work through the phase,

but I can't work through the page, because I need him to be a really participant. Yeah. I don't know, but I mean, I... You should, like, hate fuck him. Like, haven't you hate fucked him yet? Like, maybe get out your aggression that way. Well, I think the first time that we introduced it,

it was kind of like a hateful. Yeah. And I think that was what was so hot about it. Yeah, that kind of sex is hot. Like, revenge fucking... Even each other, you know what I mean? Like, I totally get that. Maybe you just need to get your anger out that way

by really like torturing his ass. Honestly, I think that's what happened the first time. It was like some hate but sex and it was so good. Yeah, maybe you need a little bit more of that with him, you know, but you also need to fix that trust between, you know, with him and, you know, figure it out. I think even if you were able to have a successful open relationship, it would be years from now because you still have to fict, you have to mend what has already broken, which is that trust that's gone out the window.

but I think that you should continue pegging him and let let it out because that's those are your needs and you have them and I not that I don't think it's a phase but I think because you haven't been able to fully experience it as much as you want like I think if you were able if you were fucking him in the ass all the time and you would work through it where it wouldn't be something that you were always thinking about right you'd think about it less because you had it but it's still like sort of like the carrot dangling in front of you because it's not like you fully experienced it yet and really been able to live it out so it's going to be very strong whereas I feel like if he really allowed you to do it and you did it a lot more not that you would never be into it but maybe there'd be less of a pull because you'd have your fill right

and it would be something you didn't need all the time but you liked it right that's what would probably happen if you were able to do it so I say go peg the shit out of him until you could you know while you're working through the not trusting this guy you know

because what else are you going to do? I don't know. I mean, I want to do it, but I just, I don't know. I don't know. You want to do what? Really fuck him in the ass. You have to start having a conversation. Maybe he's just have a conversation with him about it.

When was the last time you pegged him or even had sex with him regularly since you caught him cheated? The last time, the last time I paid him, I was maybe about four or five months pregnant. So I couldn't really, it was this year. I couldn't really, you know, do what I wanted to do because I was trying to be careful, you know. And, I mean, we did do it. And, like, even that night, I knew he was into it because he was, you know, moaning, but it was, like, very sick.

So he not like I was hurting him. Like, I said he was enjoying himself. And, like, he was even, like, pushing back on me, you know, like, you know, like, pushing back, like, meeting my throat. basically. And so I think he definitely enjoys it. That was the last time we did it. And then like the last time we did it

we're having anal sex right now because you know I just pet us lady. That was that was like two nights ago. So you have your you're fooling around with them. Yeah you got to break out that you know you got to get in the dominant position and let out a little

bit of your aggression and your anger. and get back into it because I think you could get this guy to go all the way. Use it like you did the first time. Be like if you want to, you know, be out of the dog house. You're going to let me have my fill. I'm going to fuck you in the ass like really hard. You know, like, you know, use it like you used it the last time. You told him like that was the way he could get out of it, right?

How long ago did you catch him cheating recently? How long ago? This was like three weeks ago. So three weeks ago. Yeah, it's still fresh. you could use it as a as a ploy to get you what you want use it like you did the last time tell him that that's what you want and and uh you'll get past it that's what you need to do you know i'm gonna try it i'm gonna mention it he can always say yes or no exactly and you said like you

said he's he tells you yes in his body language right you pick up on that he pushes towards you instead of a way uh you're halfway there i mean he's basically basically let you fuck him in the ass. So I think the only thing that's holding you back is a little bit of you and a little bit of him, right? I don't think it's just to say, no, it's a little bit of you. You have to just go for it. And, you know, use a little bit of your anger. Like, fuck you.

Like, just think about yourself. Like, be a little selfish, you know, in this relationship and just be like, you know, I sort of channel that dominant person. Maybe put that dick on and act like. A selfish dude And get what you want And get that and fuck it out And then

But keep me posted On You know How things work out with him Hopefully you guys are pegging And everything's good And eventually time goes by And you could

Rebuild that trust Because that can happen You know Or let me know If you find out again And you kick him to the curb I don't know And then you're pegging somebody else

We don't know What's going to happen I would like to I would like to experience taking with someone else somebody that was like actually wanted to say right well

but I don't think listen I just don't think that you or your guy with each other have been able to be completely honest about you know you haven't been completely honest about how much you like it he hasn't been completely honest about how much he likes it you're kind of both dancing

around it but you've gone very slowly that you I think you could get to the point with him that he is somebody that really likes it. But I think you're both, because we smell this stuff from people, like from a mile away. Like, I think you're both feeling each other's, you know, tiptoeing around the situation. Like, you both know on some level the other person isn't fully committed to really going all the way. And not just him. I think it's a little bit about a little bit of you, right?

So someone has to take the initiative and say, let's fucking do this, you know, and have the balls to, like, put it out. there and I think whoever did it first the other person would be down I think it's gonna have to be you put it out there like this is what I want to do and I want to do it hardcore like it we need to go all the way

and I bet you anything he'd be down I don't know I have to let you know yeah what are you afraid of what are you afraid of I don't know I don't know what I'm afraid of because I would really like I said, I guess I don't want to ask. Are you afraid that he thinks you're weird because you like this so much?

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Honestly, yeah. Yeah, that's what I figured. So, but there's nothing weird about wanting to peg.

I mean, you could, in that same conversation, you could sort of explain, like, you know, listen, I really want to do this. I can't believe that I like this. I can't believe that this is, makes me horny. It doesn't even make sense to me. It really does. Like, you could put it out there like that. And that is the truth, you know.

Right? I mean, if you say it like that. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. Let your freak flag fly. I think, you know, he'd be okay with it. It's not anything that weird. Listen, it makes, when I hear you talking, it's like, wow, would I feel that way?

If I tried that, I never did that in my life. You know, you just don't know. Like, you didn't know, right? It just. I do not know. Right. It feels amazing. Right, and you liked it.

So it's like, and listen, they make strap-ons because a lot of people like it too. You're not the only one, right? But if you have, so you're not weird for liking it. You have to let go of that in you. You've already shown this guy that you like it. You wanting to fuck him hardcore doesn't mean that you're a crazy freak that's obsessed with it. You just want to go all the way because you guys never have. And like I said, I think it would level a lot.

once you got to do it and get it out of your system and then it wouldn't be so so much of a pull but like you need to go there with him and the best time to do it is now because you're in a lot more control of this what he does for you you know because he's in the doghouse and he wants to make you happy because he just got fucking busted so use that to your advantage and get some good sex out of it while you're you know because you're getting all the the bad stuff. Get the good stuff for yourself. Exactly. Do you know what I mean? You're right. You're right. Yeah. All right. So keep me posted. What do we call you again? What was your name? Oh, April, April. April. Okay, April. Keep me posted. Good luck with everything. Let me know when you really get to fun in the ass. I will. Okay. Okay. Thanks for the years. It was over with. Exactly. All right. Thanks for calling and it was really interesting. Okay. Okay, bye.

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