Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 326 - Mike Really Wants his Wife to Peg him

Episode Date: March 8, 2020

Mike calls in to talk all about how he's dying for his wife to peg him but she's totally not into it. When and how did he get into pegging? Has he ever been pegged before? How did he first bring it up and how did his wife react? What can he do to change her mind? Tune on to find out plus hear all about the pegging porn he's into, how he's into sniffing and what he wants to sniff, whether he's ever pegged himself before and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and click on be on the show. Today I'm having a guy. What the fuck is his name? I think his name might be Mike. I'm so bad with my names. Yeah, Mike. And Mike is really into pegging. He really wants his wife to peg him.

he's never pegged himself, which I found hard to believe. So I talk a lot about that with him. I would like for my listeners to write in and tell me what they think. Do you think that he secretly has put shit in his ass while, you know, he's home alone? I don't know. But he says, no, I didn't kind of believe him. But mostly what we do talk about is the fact that how he's into pegging, how he got into it, what he really likes, what he wants his wife to do, and what her hesitations.

are about it and how far they've been able to take the whole pegging situation. So we talk all about that and then I give some anal sex advice. You'll hear. You'll hear it. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Mike. How are you today? I'm good. How are you doing?

I'm good. So I'm assuming you found my podcast because of my recent pegging episode maybe. I don't know. Or were you a listener before? Because your deal is, I mean, my most recent pegging episode was a woman talking about how that's what she really likes to do, right? And then didn't she like revenge peg her husband because you cheated on her? Yeah, right?

You're a guy and you have that as your fantasy, right? And you don't want to do it with a guy or anything like that. It has nothing to do with that, but you want to get pegged in the ass by your girl, right? And you've brought it up to her numerous times, but she just won't go there. Is that correct? Yeah, no, that's correct. Yeah, so I should this. Peggy is just kind of something that I've been interested in, I'd say, just probably in the past

couple years or so, and I just searched it in a podcast or whatever a year. That first one came up, and it was just such an interesting show that I thought just because I kind of felt like I related to it just a little bit in terms of just kind of how I maybe got into it. How did you get into it? remember correctly. Well, I remember, if I remember correctly, when you're speaking with April, she said that, you know, she wasn't really interested in it either until like she started giving her her guy like massages and whatnot. Oh yeah, they started rubbing up in a certain way kind of thing. Uh-huh. Yeah, and that's kind of similar to me just kind of how I kind of became

interested in my ex-girlfriend a while back a few years ago. she that's that's kind of how we got to do that I mean she was real into the ass play and bed and stuff like that and then um just you know one day just kind of giving me you know massage and you know licking me a little bit and then she just kind of straddled me one one night and just kind of climbed on top and then just kind of started like you know grinding me and and you know I was just so fascinated and just how not only how good it felt but just kind of how you know, she got off on it. And then that kind of, you know, just kind of just, you know, did my toes in the water just a little bit.

And then I'm just kind of, you know, researching a little bit more on, you know, just pegging and whatnot. It became interesting. So, so, you know, I, you know, just kind of, like I said, my interest has just grown over the past few years. And then, you know, maybe about, you know, a year ago, you know, I kind of worked up the confidence. to ask my wife if she would if she wouldn't mind to do it and she completely shut it down I mean without even thought

the first time now granted it was after like we had just had like a big argument and whatnot and then the next thing you know I honestly don't know how that even kind of came out on out but that's so funny that that gave you like the courage to finally like let your freak flag

fly an argument but I in a weird way it makes sense right and so yeah So I saw her ask her she was fully shouted down and then it was just, you know, something that we never really thought about after that. Then really just recently, maybe about a few months ago, I brought it up again and see I kind of, my thought process is, you know, I know that, you know, it doesn't mean anything for me as far, you know, sexuality-wise, you know, I'm married to her and, you know, I've never had any interest in being with, you know, a guy or anything like that. so you know I'm real confident in my sexuality so you know I just I felt I felt like we had a good communication to where I could bring up to her you know because I felt like the first time was just

you know the long time to do it and then so I brought it up to her again and she turned you down again and you know this time it kind of came with a couple more questions like you know do you want the real thing and and and all that and you know I completely don't that, you know, that employee wasn't the case, you know, I just kind of, you know, just kind of the research I've done, you know, it's just, it can feel good for guys too. And, you know, it's, you know, and I don't think it's, you know, because most of them, you know, to kind of, I guess, give me to the South vacation, you know, I just watch me, you know, whether it be like Peggy born or, you know, most of it is dumb, him dumb. Yeah. And, you know, so I, so, you know, I never really looked at it that way, you know, like when I first came interested in, you know, I didn't look. to be like

dominant or anything like that because I think you know more so I'm more of the dominant person in our relationship than any of my relationships really

and so I mean that's just kind of what comes with you know you know just watching the porn and whatnot so I mean

that's something that I'm not opposed to I mean you know she's not a dominant person so it's hard for me to you know

it's hard for me to vision her being dominant you know if we were to do or something But it's something that I'm not supposed to. You know, I'm a person that, you know, I'm a war that please her in any way that she can or whatever.

So it's just, you know. Yeah, but let me ask you this. With that last girl, right, that was massaging you and got you into it, did it ever go further? Like, did she ever do anything or you still haven't had, like, anyone peg you? No, yeah. We never did anything because, again, it wasn't, I didn't even really know what Peggy was at that time. Right. That's just kind of something that.

I just kind of learned after a while. So other than just like the usual butt delay and stuff like that is what we did. But it never went any further. I mean, you know, fingers, you know, tongue and stuff like that. I mean, that was all, you know, what we did. But nothing, you know, no pegging or anything like that. And that was always fine with you. Now with your girl now.

So it was after like you got turned on by that girl that you went looking and then you found like pegging porn to have you. you ever, and you could be honest with me because I don't know you, right? And nobody knows you. Have you ever watched porn, like, guy on guy porn, or is it always, like, for you, it needs to be the girl, like, with a strap on fucking a guy?

Yeah, for me, it always used to be the girl with a strap on fucking guy, yes, no. Right, so that's it. And, you know, I get why your girl, it's hard for her to believe, because, like, she's not you, right? She's not in your brain. She doesn't know for sure that this doesn't mean. something else. You do. And like you said, that's what made you totally confident to say something to her, right? Because you know that you know what you're into, right? You know what you secretly

like. And it's never been guy on guy action, right? So it really doesn't mean that. But I could totally understand her thinking that it might and being really afraid. And I think that's why maybe she won't go there. Because she has sort of, you have warmed her up to other things, right? She, a little bit of like butt play and stuff between you guys since you brought this up, right? We'll talk about that. But I'm just saying that like I could get why she might be hesitant

to really go there further with you because she's a little afraid about you know if this would make you maybe want to be with guys, right? Yeah, no, I totally understand that too. You know, like just like the research I've done you know, just kind of

hearing other women talk about it and stuff like that. You know, I totally understand that. But, you know, me and her, we've, you know, we've been together, you know, for so long, on and off, but, you know, we've been together sexually for so long, you know, I would think that, you know, she would know me enough to know that's just something

that I've never been into or something that never even thought of. No, you just brought up pegging. You just brought up you want something in your ass, and you've known her so long. It doesn't make any sense. No, obviously, that's what's so freaked out. That's probably why she's so freaked out because of exactly what you just said. And then you throw out this new thing.

She's like, I know this guy all this time. And then all of a sudden, and this comes out, this is a whole new part of him. What if there's this other thing that I don't know about, right? It's actually the opposite of what you say. Though I get why you see it that way, but I also get why she sees it that way. Do you understand? Because it is something totally new. And she thinks at all, like I've had some guys on here that.

tell me like they dump stuff on their girls and then they don't like the girl doesn't ask a lot of questions I think it was like my last guy that I just posted his wife like I think he told her he wanted something in her ass and like her question never was like have you ever been with a guy like have you ever done anything like this before like she never asked those questions and I I wonder sometimes like is it because they're afraid of the answer or they're just their brains don't go in that direction I know my brain would your girl's brain went in the direction that you would think it would like what the fuck does this mean do you know what I mean yeah no I know what you mean and yeah I guess I never really get it that way you have to you have to understand she doesn't know you know a hundred percent

that it doesn't mean anything and this is just about you she doesn't know that you that's what you need to convince her of do you understand you need to and then that and then why wouldn't she fuck you in the ass if that's what you're into do you mean like seriously Seriously. I just think she's afraid that if she does that, then you're going to really like it. And then she's going to worry that you wanted to be a guy and that it's not her fucking you when you're thinking, you know, I totally get that. Yeah. And I think the second time I asked her, I tried to, I tried to explain to her a bold bit. like she even asked like, you know, why. You know, I tried to explain like, you know, it's something that, you know,

some couples can, you know, enjoy, something I just want to experience. And it can be, you know, could just be, you know, it feels good, you know, to people who do it. So, you know, in reverse, you know, like, you know, would be, you know, me penetrating her annually or something. But, yeah, I probably didn't do it as great a job that, you know, somebody would, no, probably you would. But I totally get where you're coming from.

You need to tell her what she needs to hear that's going to make her feel confident. You know what I mean? As far as the fact that this doesn't mean something else. Now, does she like anal play at all herself? So, you know, I've kind of opened her up to a little bit recently. You know, because she knows that, you know, it's a real big, you know, turn on for me. So we've never done anal, but we have discussed that, you know, she's open to it. And really, three months

pretty much just happened down yet. It's just not, you know, me just not, you know, I guess making it feel comfortable or just kind of doing, making the right necessary moves to, you know, to kind of introduce it to her, like, as far as, like, buying, like, you know, a toy or something. But she has, but she has opened up to a little bit of buttplay.

So, you know, she knows that I like sniffing. And so that's, uh, that's a good one. Yeah, sniffing. Yeah, that's interesting. And what do you want to smell? when you're, like you said, you just want to smell like the asshole? Is that what you want to smell? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And so that's something that I kind of, you know, gathered from, you know, my last X, you know, as well. You know, yeah, just sniffing, you know, well, other than just like kind of sniffing an old body, like, you know, neck, of course, because that's, you know, what perfume and stuff is.

Armpins is kind of ironic, but armpits is not really something I do just because, I don't know. I was just never done. And she didn't really like that either, so that's fine with me. And then, yeah, I mean, just kind of, you know, something, just something about, you know, just kind of putting my nose, you know, just in her ass is just something that, you know, just turns me out so much. I mean, it's kind of the aroma, you know, especially, like, you know, after like a good shower and whatnot, you know, it's just something that, you know, turns me on so much.

So she's willing to that. And then, of course, you know, licking and, you know, a little bit of fingering. With your girl now, right? Yes, yes. And so she has opened up to it, you know, a little bit. Face sitting also. She's a little bit insecure with her body, so she doesn't like that too much. But, I mean, she's done before.

So really just, there's anything kind of, you know, but, you know, she's just opened up to it a little bit more and more. Let me ask you this. Have you put anything in your ass since you've been into this? I'm assuming you have. Come on. I've had guys put G.I. Joe's in their at, like, I've heard it all, okay, because I heard that one. I did hear that show.

You did? That was a long time ago. That was a guy, right? That was a lot ago ago. But because I would have to say that, like, you know, here you are all these years wanting someone to do something with your eyes. I would assume you would, you know, do it yourself at some point, no? Yeah. So, you know, a finger that's gone up there.

That's really just the most. Well, I have put a toy. I messed around the toy. So I brought her, because she's a real, my girl now, she's a real, just but no a person. And so me just trying to open her her mind up and just kind of have a body exceptionally. I bought her a, you know, a vibrator, just, you know, your typical average vibrator, which I'm willing to say, probably that she's never used. And so, you know, just one day, one day, I was just like, you know, I'm going to use it. Let's get some use out of it.

And so I messed around with it, you know, just kind of, you know, I've never, I don't think I've stuck it all the way up there or anything like that, but just kind of mess around it, just kind of play around with it. My ex, she was, you know, when we were away when I used to travel for work and stuff, and, you know, of course, Skype and, you know, FaceTime and stuff like that. And so she was like, you know, like when I put on shows for it and stuff, and Jude's kind of in trucking, you know, put my finger up there, you know, and stuff like that. So that's really just the extent of, you know, me just kind of playing around with myself.

Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't put that toy all the way in. I mean, because that's really what you're looking for, right? Like, wouldn't you want to experience that, or are you just not being honest? Yeah, no. Really, I think it's more so just me not, I don't know if it's being ready or just me not really, I don't know, maybe being conceiving. scared to kind of put it all right there just goes you know I've never you know other than a finger I mean and the vibrator is you know pretty good size and so um you know so really um you know I have you know something they just was playing around so and I have actually you know

I have recently you know looked at you know toys because I know there are tools for for men you know that prostate play and stuff like that so um I have looked into it I just haven't worked up the heard to buy one yet. Yeah, you should. First of all, you could buy that shit on Amazon now, so I don't know what you need courage for. It's not like you get to walk in a place and buy it, right? I mean, you could just have it and deliver to your house, right? Right, right. Your girl does know. I mean, this is something you could do privately, but I would assume that, like, I would think, like, maybe you want to, since your girl isn't on board just yet, I think you should go to town on yourself and just, like, figure out whether you really like it. Because I would

think. I've always liked anal action, okay, so I know what the deal is, right? But I would think that if it's something that kind of turns you on and you start playing around with your ass and you got a toy there, like if like you're really kind of into it, right?

You would want to go all the way because it feels really good, right? So I'm surprised that you haven't crossed line. So I wonder if you're ready because like, listen, you're like you're sitting here thinking you want her to peg you and you're afraid to put something in your ass

besides a finger. I mean, tagging you is a whole, you know, what you're looking for, you're like afraid to do yourself, which I think you should maybe take a couple of practice runs. You know what I'm saying? Maybe you won't even like it. I don't know. Maybe you just want a finger.

I don't know. Yeah, I think you're kind of spot on. So, maybe just me being a little scared. I think it's more so because when I first, you know, started being interested in just kind of research them, you know, pegging stuff like that. You know, all I see is just like, you know,

a girl, was on a trap on and, you know, fucks her guy and whatnot. You know, and then when I started doing a little bit more research just kind of like how to prepare for it and stuff like that, you know, of course, like, you know, albumings and stuff like that coming because you have that come up and stuff like that. So that more, I think that's more so me just being afraid,

like, you know, I don't want to be embarrassed, you know, when I do do it or whatnot. Well, that's why I would say practice by yourself. That's the whole thing about doing it. You're not going to be embarrassed if you're by yourself, are you? Right. Yeah, no, I don't think so. No, so, I mean, that's the whole point about these practice runs.

You know what I mean? And, like, sort of playing with yourself and experiencing it yourself just to get all that kind of stuff out, especially because your girl's not interested right now. I don't know. A part of me thinks, like, maybe, like, there's a chance that you're not being completely honest that you have gone all the way with yourself.

I don't know why I think that. You know, but if you are being completely honest and you never have really put something in there, I would suggest while you're taking the time to really make your girl feel secure that you're not by at all, right? That it's really about, you know, women on guy action and, you know,

that in the meantime, you should be, taking some practice runs with yourself and you can and it would could be pleasurable, you know, for you. You could see if you really like it. Like I said, if you're watching porn and you're watching pegging and you got a toy right there, like the fact that you're not shoving it in your ass, I don't understand. Yeah. Yeah.

And, yeah, and, you know, I think it also is just, you know, you're right about, you know, me just kind of not go out. I mean, I have been 100%, you know, honest with you. I haven't done all the way in and stuff like that. But, yeah, it's just more so of me just being, you know, maybe a little bit worried. Like I said, it's maybe being embarrassed or just kind of, you know. But what are you worried about if you're by yourself and the privacy of your own closet or wherever the fuck you are when you're jerking off? Like, what would you, like, when you say you're embarrassed, I get that maybe you feel like,

oh, what if I shit on her, like, when you're with her? But, like, what would you be embarrassed about by yourself? that doesn't make sense to me unless like I don't know you know like yeah you're embarrassed with yourself you'd be embarrassed with yourself no I mean I mean when you say it well I guess me thinking it and then you say it out it doesn't make sense you realize it got out of stupid it is right yeah you maybe you're not using the right word um maybe but I mean I think you're right and I think you're you're on something um yeah when I say when you say it when you say it out loud it doesn't make any sense so yeah I mean you know

Maybe, yeah, I mean, maybe one day I'll, you have to. It doesn't, like, I just don't think that you're ready. Like, if you are not ready to do it by yourself and you have, like, sort of, like, you feel embarrassed or you're questioning how it would be when you do it to yourself, like, how do you think you're going to do it with your girl? I mean, is there actually, and maybe this is, maybe this is the thing? Like, is there less fear when you're with her? or less embarrassment that when you're with her than if you did it by yourself? Or no?

Because if you're afraid to do it by yourself, I just don't see that thing that you're ready to do it with your girl. So I don't understand why you're at the point where you're pushing her when you're not even sort of there yet with yourself. Well, as far as pushing her,

you know, I kind of just wanted to, you know, open up to her and let her know, like, hey, something, this is and something, and I would like to try. So much like she says that, you know, she would be, you know, she found cranial. I wouldn't just one night shove it in there. And so, of course, like, you know, I want to take the time and, you know, practice and do all that kind of thing with her. And so I would, I guess, you know, I would expect the same thing with, you know, me and her.

So, like, you know, as first, you know, her. And when I say that she does, like, maybe a finger or whatever, it's maybe just like, you know, maybe just like, you know, maybe just like the tip of the finger and then it's like goes on for a couple seconds and you know that's really it so you know I would I would want to warm up and stuff like that to her you know first before we just go

full out you know her just she just fucks me you know and stuff so well let me teach you teach you a little bit about anal sex okay both ways it's like I don't think your asshole is any different than her asshole right and I still don't believe that you haven't gone all the way with yourself but I'm just going to explain some stuff to you

for her. Like you don't need to like practice really. Like I mean if you decide like okay tonight we're going to do anal, I mean you don't need to like practice beforehand but you do need to go slowly when you do do it and you do like when you're putting like say it's her right and you're doing it to her and you're doing a finger like if you're like she might mean more stimulation than just that finger like maybe that finger's in there while your dick is inside her or you're going down on her and the fingers inside her you know what I mean? Like you're you're going down on her and the fingers inside her. You know what I mean? Like you shouldn't just think that just like you putting your finger in there by itself without any other kind of stimulation in the beginning would be enough, right? Like maybe you

do that while you're really turning her on by going down on her. And then what happens, right, if she's really into it and open to it, like that little finger, the tip of it, she'll want more if you go slowly. And that's the way you ease somebody into it. Not over 10 days over time within the same period. Do you understand? Because if you always stop when, you know, and you think that the next time she's going to let you go further, it's more about like really taking your time and getting somebody or yourself or her really, really turned on so that you could really relax and let your muscles like open up. So, and then the more you do that and the more turned on you get, the more you want something inside you. Do you understand to the point where then you're just totally like the whole thing's in there and

it's like feels fucking great? And then you come like really fast. Like you can't even. It's like it's so sensitive and so great, you know. You could get there by yourself by doing the same thing. You know, you just need a little time. You need to get your hangups about it out of your fucking head and you need to go to town. But you just need to take some time. But like I said, the time is not like, oh, you need six months of practice. You need maybe 30 minutes of foreplay. Do you understand? Like, and just keeping it in there and going slowly. That's why those those, those. anal like little anal like toys that you could find right i think you said like the prostate ones that i don't know if they're prostate ones whatever they're you know they're kind of shaped a little bit different than a total dick right they're kind of good the way that they're shaped that you could just put a little bit in there and then as you're turning yourself on or her on you know the and you just let it stay there you're gonna push on it more and you want more and more and more right but that you have to be getting more turned on right you're just not going to put it in.

So, you know, you're both, you should practice that way on yourself because if you know what it's like, how you like it, you'll then know how to do it and make her, like turn her on. And the biggest mistake that people make with anal sex and anal play trying to get their girls into it

most of it, like, all the time is that some guy thinks that you're just going to like put it in and fuck her in the ass. And then so many girls hate it because some guy did that. Even if it's a finger, you don't just want a finger shoved in you. Like, you know, so many people do it the wrong way and then people get turned off by it, right? When that's not the way to do it. And because you're into it yourself and you have this

fantasy of being pegged, like I feel like you should practice quote unquote on yourself, get it down to how it works and how you could figure out how you have to take the time and get turned on and then get the whole thing in there. And then you'll know how to do it for her. Do you know any mean, because you don't even know how to do it for yourself. You're both wusses, like skirting around the issue. You're not any less vanilla than her. You don't really see because, like I said, I mean, the fact that you have these toys and you have this porn and you have this desire and you haven't gone all the way by yourself makes you a little vanilla too. Yeah. You know, that's probably not the right word, but.

wusses maybe the better word. That actually is the thought of the better word because, yeah, I think also, I think also because I'm a little worried, you know, for myself better, you know, I just won't like it because, you know, I've been, you know, researching and just kind of watching and just kind of of being so interested in this for the past few years now and, you know, then say when it finally does happen, you know, it's just, you know, a horrible experience, you know, I was just going to be, okay, you know, what was all that for, you know? Yeah, none of this stuff makes sense.

this stuff makes sense to me but right because that's like that's like overthinking nonsense and to me when you're fucking horny and you're in the middle of being horny I say this all the time it's like you're a drunk person you don't think like this like what you're thinking about right now is like rational thinking right like I get if you're thinking about that like when you're walking to work in the morning right but like if you're thinking like that while you're watching like someone peg someone and your fucking dick is hard Like that's not like there's no way that thought is going on. Do you know what I mean? Like you need to focus on like what you're feeling when you're turned on and you're in the middle.

That's the time to, you know, make sure you have your toy handy and you're ready to do it. The fact that, I mean, if you have those thoughts in your head that like, oh, it's been so long. What if it's something they don't like, you know, it's like you're never going to go there. You're like talking yourself out of it. And that's like a little nutty kind of thinking, you know, especially when it comes to SEX, because to me normally those desires are you just can't rationally like throw them out the window. That's why you have like listen to the people that call into my show and the people,

things that they're fucking doing because they can't control themselves because this is like that those urges are very powerful, right? I would think your urge to be actually pegged because you've been sitting around watching and thinking about it for so long would be so strong. you'd want it. The fact that it's like it's made you more paranoid about doing it because it's it's a little backwards to me, you know? Not saying that that's not true. I get it. But that's like that's like a weird block that you have to get past. Like you just have to, like you just have to do it. Because so if you don't like it, who cares? And then it could just be a fantasy that you like

to watch it. Then maybe you're like, okay, I'm like the type of person I don't really want something in my ass, but I like to actually watch it happen to somebody else. And then maybe that's your thing, you know what I mean? But you have to figure out what your thing is before you spend all this time trying to get your girl into something that you don't even know if you fucking like it.

Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think that also can kind of, that may be, you know, second one head as well because maybe because, you know, I've asked her to do it, you know, for a while. I mean, granted, it's only been twice, but it's been, you know, long since, you know, I brought it up the first time.

So maybe I'm just like, okay, she'll never do this. You know, maybe I kind of need to get out of my head as well. You know, maybe that might. No, you need to for, no, no, no, you, no, you, there's a, there's so many what ifs here. What you, like, if I was going to give you homework, I would say you need to fuck yourself in the ass with something within a month's time and figure out whether you like it. Get a little lube. get, you know, does your wife ever go away

or do you ever have like the 40 minutes to yourself? Like, you know, you need some time. You need to really relax. You need to not think. And the best way to not think to me is just get really horny because nobody's thinking when they're fucking horny. You know what I'm saying? When you're watching porn and you're jerking off,

you're not thinking. You know what I mean? All this stuff that you're saying to me now is not in your head. That's what, that's why it doesn't make sense to me that like you've had all this sort of experience. being turned on by this kind of act, right? And I'm assuming you're jerking off and watching this porn, and that you haven't been able to just sort of fully go there.

It's like I don't understand that. Because most of the time, that's when all this kind of rational thinking would go out the window normally, right? Yeah. And that's what makes me say that you're still a little bit more vanilla than you think you are. You and your wife or maybe both have some hangups that you need to get past. And, you know, five years from now,

you're both going to be fucking each other in the ass like mad people if you could just get past your you know hangups about it you know she seems to be as open as you are I mean you don't I know that you think that you have the desire to actually do it but it seems like she's um you and her are kind of at the same place you both kind of need some time you both need some quote unquote practice like you said you know and you just you're both not really sure. You say like she's not sure what it means whether you're gay or not and that's what I

was like sort of saying, but you're not sure whether you'll even like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is interesting. When you say it like all that. Yeah, when you say like all that, it definitely makes sense to me. And I think, you know, I

can tell you, you know, it's something that I do want. And so I do want to experience it, you know, at least once what I like it or don't like it. I think you're right. You know, I'm just, I'm just maybe having some kind of, you know, just having me, you know, mental blocks in my head about it for some reason, which is right, because I don't know necessarily why, you know, like when I did it with my eggs, you know, it was just, well, first, you know, the first time, you know, just kind of messing around is just something that, you know, just happened. And then, you know, from around, it was just, you know. Right, but she never pegged you or you never put a toy in your ass with her, right?

Right. No. No. So that's my whole thing. Like, you haven't gone. all the way, though that's what you really want to do, right? Like when you were found that pegging episode, right, and you were listening to that, I'm assuming that that whole scenario reminded you like of what you want and what you like

and what you think is like a fetish of yours, right? Yeah. Yeah. But yet you haven't like, you don't, but yet there's still some doubts in you. And that's what I think you have to get past. I think the best way to, like, I believe in masturbating. I mean, like, that's a very healthy thing in a really great way to sort of figure out what you like, what you don't like, how you like things, you know. So I think because you're not sure yourself that you need to do a little exploring with yourself.

Now, do you have to tell your wife about that? Do you want to tell her about that? That's like really up to you. But the great thing is, is you don't have to. There's no cheating. Like you don't cheat on your wife, right, or anything like that, right? Right. Yeah, no.

Right. So, I mean, there's nothing wrong with you trying that out, right, behind her back without knowing. If you want to tell her, you kind of can. But, like, I think, you know, in the beginning, like, just keep that as your secret thing. And because she knows, listen, she knows that that's what you want to do. And she knows that that's what you're into. You know, you could try it. You have to, like, try it yourself first, I think.

And you have to. then you'll be more likely to understand how to get her into it as well. Like I get the whole, oh, like first you try a little finger. I mean, you're like at the point where like a little tip of a finger goes in with your wife, right? You're at the point where a tip of a toy went into you, right? And neither one of you has gone farther than that, right? Right, correct. Does that toy still exist in your house, the vibrator?

Yeah, it's sitting there. in her nightstand. Yeah, you need to put it all the way in. Can you do that? Yeah, I know. I definitely can try. Like I said, I mean, it's kind of, I don't know. I guess I don't know what's big as far as barbers, you know, advertised wise, but I don't know, maybe it's just me being a little, like you said,

what's about it and, you know, just being scared to do it and I just need to do it, you know, get some movement. Well, is it really bad? Like, what's the, like, it doesn't look like, is it? as big as your dick? Is it smaller than your dick? What is like, how big is it? Or not big is it? It's smaller. It's smaller than mine.

But, you know, I feel like it's, I don't know. I feel like it's got a big, a nice girt to it, if that makes sense. Let me ask you this. When you're watching porn, right, and the pegging, do you like to see big dicks going inside? Like, I mean, is that a part of it? Do you like that girth, the look of that? Or do you like to see, like, there's, you know, it's a long skinny thing? Like, I mean, is there something that you prefer? Maybe when you watch?

Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I can say that I don't like, you know, see the big ones. So, yeah, mostly like the longer skinny ones. Oh, okay. So maybe that's your thing. Maybe the thing that she has in her little nightstand is too big for you. Maybe that's not what you're sort of into. Maybe you need one of those smaller ones, something thinner and smaller.

And that would be a turn on to you, you know? yeah yeah yeah totally yeah so maybe there's too much girth there yeah it might be yeah because i don't know maybe just like i said i don't know that happened side and we're not but i mean yeah i guess i get a little intimidated like like when the i remember the first time you know when i actually did you know play with it you know um you know i just kind of you know kind of you know kind of teared around you know my ass with it and you know i guess i i feel like i kind of tried to put it in there but you know just kind of like you said, being in World War,

and just having, just didn't shove it in there or doing that. But I was also doing it with no way to the great day like that. It's just kind of something that just spread up on the one day, and I just decided to, you know, just get it out and play with it. So, yeah, maybe I can try it again or, you know, get, you know, like I said, the other toys. Yeah, I'm surprised that you have it, you know,

or like, listen, I've had, I mean, I don't think the G.I. Joe guy is the only one that shud something around the house up in his ass. I feel like I've talked to guys that have put other stuff in there, you know? And like I said, I'm just surprised that, you know, you're so into this and you haven't sort of gone. Have you put fingers in there, your own? Yes. Okay.

Do you put more than one? No, just one. Just one. Maybe you should try two next time. Okay. You know? Because, listen, maybe you just like finger play in your ass. Like, I mean, I, you know, pegging is like a dick in your ass.

You know, it's not a, it's not a finger in your ass, right? I mean, like, that's what pegging is, right? Right. And, and, you know, there is a little, and I think maybe you don't realize this, but I think if you really do it, you'll realize this, that maybe there is a part of you. And I just taped a guy. I forget, I taped so many people that I forget if I've aired this one or not, but like, I recently talked to a guy that, like, was like 90% not a sub. He was mostly a dom, but he had that 10% that was a sub. And that's what really made him like the pegging, right? It wasn't all of him. It was a small part of him, right?

But that whole sub thing is a part of it. And that might be what you really like too, you know? And you don't even realize that yet because you've never really had it happen. And you say, like I'm more a dom and everything, but I've heard that before and what might happen when you do get pegged eventually, right? When she does it to you, that you might realize

that a big part of it for you isn't just the penetration. It's the being a sub, being like maybe like experience what a woman it would experience. You know, being more the sub person in the sexual relationship. Yeah, I mean, that very well could be

because I will say that, you know, when I am watching born and, you know, I do, because most of it, you know, most of the point I watched was pro-tegging is the Fend, you know, type. And so, you know, so they're definitely being dominant and whatnot. So I, and I have no issue with it. I have no issue with, you know, if, you know, if she can low playing or whatnot.

And so she wants to be dominant, you know, and every sub, you know, that's totally common with me. I actually kind of would rather prefer that to be honest if I'm being honest right now. I think I wouldn't rather prefer that, you know. Being us up. Right. Yeah. You know, yeah, as far as you know what it comes.

Yeah. I mean, that's interesting as well. Yeah, because I wouldn't mind also, you know, other than just paying me, you know, I want her to, you know, do the things I do to her, you know, like stuff like that. So, yeah. It's like you want to experience, like kind of like what she experienced. I think that there's like a part of that, right? Like you want to be.

Yeah. the quote unquote female in the situation, right? I think maybe the female is more submissive, right, if you really want to do just like regular gender roles, right? And maybe sometimes what guys that want to be pegged, it's like what you want to experience is it from the other side, right? And that makes sense. That's like a, and you know, that's like probably a big fantasy of yours.

And you need her, like, you know, putting the dick in your ass by yourself isn't going to satisfy that part of you and maybe that's like the bigger part of you that's what this is more about and maybe people that have been listening to me talk or like have known this the whole time and it's like shut the fuck up Kathy like he he needs the girl doing it because it's

more than just the dick in his ass you know what I mean? Yeah yeah because yeah I think that's yeah that I think that that was a little bit into it because you know I've I'm kind of just pictured it you know if I'm painting a perfect picture you know I've just picture it you know her

you know, just one night, just into that dominant role. And then me just totally like, you know, giving myself to her, you know, like just giving myself to her and, you know, having no, like, you know, no thoughts or regrets about it, you know. If it feels good, you know, when there and that would feel good, you know.

Yeah, and I'm sure it's going to feel good to you. I wouldn't worry about it being like a downer. Like, I don't know. I've never really heard of somebody that's like sort of gone there. I mean, no, I have, have heard, like, first experience. experiences maybe not being so great and stuff, but it never so much that it turned them off completely to like a fetish that they had. You know what I mean?

Especially something that's been percolated for percolating for so many years, you know, you're probably going to fucking love it. I hope so. Yeah, I hope so. Because it's something I do really want to do. And so, you know, just the other, you know, bug play stuff, you know, I just grown so fascinated with and, you know, I love doing it so much. You know, I definitely do. try something else and take it to like you know go the next level and so um yeah you need to what you need to do with her i mean working her like the ass play with her and you doing it to her is

like one thing but i think you know and maybe that will be great for the both of you but like you know i think you what you want for her to do to you is a whole different thing and that's what you need to work on you know is her wanting to peg you you. And the way you're going to do that is by really letting her know for sure that this does not mean that you're by. And like you need to say things like I've watched porn on pegging since I've been into it. And I like, because remember I asked you the question like, have you ever watched a guy on God? Like have you ever watched a guy fucking a other guy in the ass? Or is it always have to be women? Right. And I ask that because that tells you something about what you're

looking for, right? And like where your desires are. So like you, you need to tell her. I don't know if you explain that to her, but like maybe you could say, like, I know that I'm not by because, like, I've been into this and been thinking about this for a while and everything that I look at and all the porn, it's always has to be a woman. You know what I mean? Like, that's what it is for me. I could never watch a guy doing it to a guy. Like, that's not my thing. You know, did you explain that to her? I didn't know, yeah. Probably, yeah, probably should have it. Probably should, yeah.

Yeah, I, because I question you like Barbara Walter's trying to find out, like a detective, right? Just trying to see, like, what, you know. So, but the questions that I ask, like, if you explain these things to her the way I'm asking you, it'll help ease her mind because it'll, that sounds, like, that makes sense, right? And that, that's what she needs to know. She might not know how to ask that question, but that's what she, she's looking for in her mind to relax into this. Now, I know you told me, like, you guys are high school sweethearts.

You guys have been together a really long time, right? Yes. You're super close. Is your sex life good other than the fact that, you know, you're, you're, you want to try some new things like this with her, but is everything else like good between you guys? Yes. Yeah.

Right. So really, like, you're, you're open enough and close with her enough to bring up what you're into and I give you credit and that's good right and I'm sure two years from now if I talk to you you guys will be this will be happening between you two and maybe you'll do it a couple times and then you'll have had your fill I don't know but maybe it'll open up a whole BDSM thing that you realize that you're into you know we don't know until you actually do it but I think that you could probably get your girl into doing it to you once you make her really realize

that it doesn't mean that you want the real thing. And I think because why, because think about it, if she knows for a fact, like you know for a fact, that it doesn't mean anything about your sexuality and that you really just want to be with her and you don't want to be with another guy

and when she's fucking you in the ass, you're not thinking she's a guy. You know, why wouldn't she do it? You know what I'm saying? yeah and you know she because she doesn't watch porn and she doesn't even like when I do to be honest

so yeah I think that I think that kind of can come you know a little bit issue as well you know but yeah I know yeah but come on doesn't she does she know that you watch porn or is that a secret no she knows I do okay so that you just got to fucking put it out there

because what she's looking for is peace of mind and that'll help she'll be more focused on the peace of mind then she will be on the fact that you're watching peg porn pegging porn. I mean, maybe that will bring up to some other thing. But, like, I don't know. I remember I once had a girlfriend who, like, went snooping in her guys. I don't even know she was snooping, but she found some, like, dirty magazines. This is, like, back in the day, because I'm really fucking old.

Where there were no, like, it wasn't, there was no internet porn. So, right? Someone wanted porn. They had magazines or videos. And she found that shit, like, in his house someplace. And she called me up, like, literally, like, crying. Like, she was like, can you believe? Like, I'm not enough.

And I'm like, are you fucking. crazy? Like, I don't know. That's like that that's like, that's so weird to me that somebody would actually think that, right? But there are people. And, but I get, listen, I get that there's people who don't like porn, right? It's not for

everybody. And there's nothing wrong with someone that doesn't like it. Just like there's nothing wrong with somebody that does really fucking like it, you know? But it's not like you're doing, I don't think you're doing anything wrong, you know? I, you know, so I think bringing it up to her

is just a matter of, like I said, of making her feel like, you know, that's just a way of proving your case to her, giving her brain the things that she needs to have to really know for sure that this doesn't mean that you're by and you want to fuck guys. And you need to say certain things to her. Telling her like, whenever I have, maybe, you know, you're not going to tell her I watch it fucking pegging every day like incessantly or, you know, you're not going to tell her, you used her her, her toy. You're not going to tell her that I gave you homework to go fuck yourself. Like you're not going to tell her any of that. You're going to say like when I have watched it, you know, because I was curious, I'm telling

you like the only thing I ever watched was a girl. Like I wanted to be you. Like I know for a fact like I'm not into it being a guy. And there's something about being sort of a sub. Like can you bring up the fact that maybe you have that that's a part of it? Like that maybe you want to be a little submissive and try that, like, and do a little role playing with her? Yeah, and I, and that's what I said the second master, you know, I said, like, you know, it's just a role of personal that I think, you know, it's something that I really want to try. And, you know, that's, so I brought that up to her before. So, yeah, what did she say?

Bring her again. She just said that, you know, it's just thinking about it, just, she didn't understand why. I would want to do that and did her just thinking about it. you know, just kind of made her feel uncomfortable. And so it just kind of left her at that. Yeah. You know, and listen, I get how girls think, and I know how guys talk. And, like, guys never, the guys don't think as much as women.

So they don't really understand when you want, like, how to explain and ease a woman's mind. Do you know what I mean? Like, guys don't say much. You probably didn't say much. So she's got a lot of questions, right? And it doesn't really know. And, like, so this is where, like, the thing of being, like, a guy and a girl comes. into, like, it becomes like an issue because I don't, you're not communicating the way she needs

you to, right? And that's just because you don't realize she, what she really sort of needs, right? And she needs to really know for sure, like I said, a million times already, that this doesn't mean anything else. And you could let her know that by talking to her and really explaining to her. Like I said, I know she might not like that you've watched porn on this, but she has to know. and it might help her, I think for sure it would, if she's like a rational, normal person.

If you say, I know, like, I'm very comfortable with my sexuality. I know this doesn't mean that I like guys because this is how I've looked into this. Like, you know, it's, I've watched porn a couple times and it's been with a woman. What I'm looking for is for you to be a little bit dominant. Like, I think it would be really hot to see you with the stress. up on like you like you know like you know you have to just do more explaining to her and make her feel more comfortable with it yeah yeah because i will say that it has worked um like i said recently she opened to open up and open up to open up to do and stuff and or but boy so um yeah so like when

i explained her you know i really yes with me and so um yeah so when i explained her and that uh you know I want her to, you know, like I told her I wanted her to eat my ass one night. And so it had something that she'd definitely never done in the past. And so, and she didn't know. I mean, it's not like she really got away in there, but she did kind of, you know, play around it a little bit. So, I mean, she is open, you know, can do it stuff, I guess, you know, like you said, just maybe just, that's being listening to about it. Yeah, no, but that's what I mean. Like, you guys have been together for a long time.

You're super close. Like, she's probably like your best friend, right? you'd be like high school sweetheart. I really believe that she would do it for you if that's what you're into. And maybe down the line she'd realize she actually likes it. But I just think that she's a little nervous about it because she doesn't want to open up the can of worms and make you realize like you want a guy, you know, if you like it too much. And I get that she would feel that way, you know?

And I get that. You don't understand that because like I said, you're you. You know for a fact what you're into and what you really. like and where how far this goes in your brain but she it doesn't matter how long you guys have known each other she doesn't know that for sure and especially because this is something new you didn't tell her this when you you know when you guys first got together you just brought that up recently right yeah so what the fuck does that mean you know she's like what the hell yeah yeah because yeah because i remember you know when i even first bought her like hey like i'm really i have a little

have a butt fetish, you know, I just want to, you know, do whatever it is to your butt, you know, whatever. And so, so, like, you know, she was definitely worded out by her first, you know, like, especially when I told her, like, you know, I just really want to sniff her ass. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, she was, of course, you know, like, I guess anybody would. She was totally like, what the fuck? But, yeah, she definitely opened up to it.

And so now, you know, I just, you know, she definitely doesn't mind when I sniff her. So, yeah, do a few others. Yeah, listen, I mean, eventually your girl will succumb and she'll have that strap on on and she'll be fucking you in the ass and you guys will figure it all out. But like I said, you need to work on getting her to feel comfortable about it. And then I think you need to use your imagination and protect, like, you know, to have some sort of sessions with yourself to go. go there and I think once you you know remove some of your blocks for it you know

then maybe it will happen more with her because then you'll just have to work on hers because I think you have some blocks to it too though you're down to fucking try it like you just want it to happen I do think with the right imagination you know even if you're playing with yourself you could pretend that you're being

you know a submissive in a scenario you know what I mean like and like and do it so that it gives you the experience that you want. It's not just about the penetration, I get it. It's about being a sub and being dominated and having a woman, like feeling more like the woman in the situation. I mean, but if you have half imagination,

I mean, you could go there with yourself too, right? Like you could kind of create that fantasy yourself and just try it out. And then I think once you really realize that you really like it, then maybe that will help you, you know, push her more in that direction. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah, no, you're right, you're right, yeah, I just need to, yeah, just keep working it and, you know, be more open about it.

Because that's one thing that I haven't been for sure. I mean, other than just me telling her, like, coming out saying, like, hey, this is what, you know, I want us to try, this is what I like. You know, I just kind of left it at that bad, you know, other than just, you know, maybe just sitting down with her and just kind of telling her explain to her, like you said, and trying to get her to real, you know, where you see it, I guess, from my point of view, I guess. And so, yeah, I definitely can work on her. Yeah, tell her, like, I'm not even looking for a big dick. Like, I, like, I do want, you know, maybe let's try some, as she put her finger in your ass? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. Just kind of, like the tip?

Yeah, right. Okay. So you're, you're getting there. But like you say, like, you know, can we buy a toy? Like, can you say that to her? Can we buy a toy for me to try and, like, maybe you could, you know, do it? And say, like, this is, like, this is something. something that I need you to be a part of because my fantasy involves a woman.

Like it's not just, you know, it's not just about butt play. It's about you being more dominant and having that role play going on. You know, so you have to have more conversations with her and explain to her exactly what you're looking for and really make her. And I think the more you talk about it and the more she's comfortable to ask questions and you could answer them the way you've answered me, completely honest, that she'll eventually cave because she'll know for sure that this is not something that is you know that she doesn't have to question your sexuality because that would be I think that's her

biggest fear I don't care how vanilla she is she seems cool she's tried things with you for you asking her right you know so I think she'll get there eventually you know after you have more conversation so I think you need to open it up and talk about it more and so that she could figure out maybe she'll come up with the questions for you and you can answer them but you could also tell her certain things like I said too to ease her her mind and make her more comfortable yeah but I would like for you to put something totally in and then let me know how it works yeah I know definitely um yeah no definitely I definitely want and and on that too you know I definitely want to try that too but like that I've just been a wuss about it.

So I definitely want to, you know, go the way up there and, you know, you explore. Yeah, you need time, like I said. You need some time and you need to do it by yourself. So, like, you know, I don't know. Do you have kids or you guys, like, just marry no kids? We have one. Yes. You have a kid?

Oh, okay. I mean, do you ever have, like, 30 minutes to yourself, an hour? Like, I mean, you know, that's, you need some time to do it and to, to, with yourself. but like you need to do that and then and you need to talk to her and then you need to get back to me and let me know how it goes. I'm dying to know how you really like it like I said because I think you're knowing what you like yourself will help you with her and then I think you know you're close enough with her to maybe say like can we buy a toy and just have it and then maybe eventually you'll see like what it you know like maybe you'll be more into it can we like you know maybe not a strap on just like one of those things you know you have to keep having those conversations. and get her to open up to those things and that'll lead you towards her actually pegging you because, you know, that's what you ultimately want. Do you think, I mean, I don't know, just kind of thinking about it.

I mean, I think also a little bit of her recollection they're doing that is just because she may think it's like, you know, Roach, you know, like, oh, something's going up, you know, his ass, you know, I don't want to go be back there or whatever. So, I mean, I just kind of be even thinking about it later. you know, I think that maybe if, like, I got her to sniff me more or to her do it at all, she may be more comfortable being back there. I don't know. You know, that whole sniffing thing, like, I had a guy on recently that was like a foot fetish and he, like, loved to smell feet and they need to be, like, smell bad.

Like, you know, stuff like that, I think is, like, it's very hard for someone to wrap their head around it that isn't into it. So I do not think that if you got her to sniff your ass more, that it would make her feel more comfortable. I don't know. Like, seriously, I don't know how. I get because you like that, like, you know, but I don't, I think, like, if you say, hey, I took a shower and, like, I'm totally clean. And, you know, you could ease her sort of fears if it has something to do with, like,

oh, it's disgusting because it's your ass. I just don't know that, oh, like, getting her into sniffing, quote, unquote, your ass is going to change that or make her more comfortable. I think that will just weird her out more. Because that's like a, it's like a, it's like a very specific thing that you're into, like your sense of smell. And like, listen, I'm sure there's millions of people that feel the same way you are, but there's millions of people that don't fucking get it.

And she might be one of them. And if she doesn't get it, that's just going to make her more weird out if you ask me. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So don't. Forget about the sniffing.

The way she's going to feel more comfortable. Listen, she's not going to know whether she likes it or not until she's strapped it on and is doing it, you know. She, in the beginning, it's going to be her doing this for you. And really what she has to get past, I believe, first and foremost, is like what this means for your sexuality and what this really means about you. And that's what you have to conquer.

Anything. And like I said, you just have those conversations. And then everything else is experimenting. If you get like a toy and it's not her hand or anything, like I think maybe she'd be open to you to say, like, could you use a toy on me? Have you tried that? You know, try that.

Yeah, I don't have to try that. Yeah, because it's mostly been just like asking her like, hey, can I, you know, can we mess around the toy? But I usually, you know, You're doing the toy with her. Yeah. Yeah, tell her you want to use it to live. She's not into that toy.

Say like, let me use it. Like, let's use it together. You know, I think she'd be more apt to like, put a toy in your ass than her nose in your ass like seriously like you know i just think that that's a lot easier and that's what you need to get her to uh see and and do so i think maybe you bring up the toy next as well as keep having those conversations with her about you know that it doesn't and then let me know i mean listen this is like fascinating for me this is why i could have like a million people on and it seems like it's the same topic but like you know it's totally

different. Like I would have never expected this podcast episode to be sort of like what it is, right? Like I would have thought our conversation was going to be very different. It's interesting to talk to somebody like you who has this fantasy but hasn't really gone there and has some blocks. I don't know. It's all like so interesting because it's another person that likes pegging, but it's a whole different sort of situation. But I'm sure there's going to be people that are going to email me and be like, oh, I totally relate, you know. So thanks so much for calling in and telling your story. And you need to keep me posted.

I need to know. Yeah. A month from now, two months from now, when some shit goes down, let me know, you know, whether that's you doing it with yourself or her letting you use the toy with each other. I don't know. But I, you know, I feel like things will be happening soon. And I want you to keep me posted. definitely yeah that definitely well thank you so much gatti all right thanks mike thanks so much for calling in okay okay thank you so much you're welcome bye mike thanks for calling in bye bye okay i just want to tell you

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