Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 330 - John Smith Breaks Down his Pantyhose Fetish
Episode Date: April 6, 2020John Smith has a lifelong pantyhose fetish and he calls in the explain it in detail. How does a pantyhose fetish get activated in people and how did it get activated in him? What is it about pantyhose... that's a turn on for people and what specifically turns him on? Which pantyhose "color" is the most popular and why? Tune in to find out plus hear all about how he likes to occasionally cross dress, what he's secretly done with guys that involves pantyhose, how his wife feels about his fetish and a whole lot more. Stay tuned at the end when he gives out tips on the best pantyhose to wear, websites to see his videos of him wearing hose as well as his email to get in touch. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today I have been a guy named John Smith.
I taped John Smith a while ago.
I'm still, this intro, I'm taping it during quarantine, COVID.
My PSA is still stay the fuck home so we could all get the fuck out.
But I taped his episode a long time ago.
Right now I'm finding it hard to find time to tape a lot of people.
Thank God I have a lot of episodes taped already.
This guy called me a while ago.
He was really interested.
He's got a big Panyos fetish, but he didn't really want to talk specifically about his fetish.
He wanted to talk more in general about the Panyos fetish and explain to me and people out there, you know, why it, like how he experiences it.
And in a much broader sense, like I said, it's not really, he's talking more for all guys that are into Panyos, right?
in all guys that have this fetish and how they experience it and what it feels like and what they're into.
Typically, I like for my episodes to be much more personal and intimate and just about one person,
but I allowed him to go with it and talk about this fetish in a broader sense because I've had so many pantyhose guys on already.
It is a very hot topic and I thought why not let him sort of do his thing and see, you know, how that would go, right?
I don't have a pantyose fetish, so I don't know if him speaking for everybody is correct,
what he's saying, does everyone agree with it?
I don't know.
Write me an email and let me know what you think.
But I found it interesting.
He does get into, though, as well, stuff about him.
Like, besides being really into pantyhose, I personally think he's into guys a little
bit.
He talks about his experience with men and pantyhose, how he likes to wear them a little bit of cross-dressing
is in there.
and like I said we talk, you know, about some experiences he had, but mostly we talk in general just about the fetish.
And he gets really specific about how people with this fetish experience it.
And like I said, it's his take on things.
But I think he seemed really smart and he seemed to really know a lot.
So I'm assuming that a lot of people will relate to him, but maybe not.
I don't know.
Send me an email at trickly-dormous podcast at jimel.com if you want to give me your two cents.
but anyway I'm going to be right back on with John Smith.
How are you doing today?
Welcome to a strictly anonymous podcast.
I like your name, John Smith.
Is that like the name for the dead people, John Smith, or is that a different name?
Is that like a cadaver name?
That's just a very popular anonymous name.
It's just a very popular anonymous name.
And this is the name you've been using, right?
You were just telling me this is the name that you've been using
because you do live a double life, right?
I do.
I do have a double life, and I've been using this name for 20, 30 years.
Okay, so how old are you now?
And when you started this double life of yours?
Well, I'm in my mid-50s.
I started this double life when I, you know, when I, after I got married,
I had a side of me that, you know, that I didn't feel comfortable letting everything out.
So I decided if I, you know, go on the Internet and create an account and go to a website and you have to create a username and account.
So always create a screen name and then always ask for like your real name.
So I just created John Smith.
Right.
And so now explain to everybody what your secret life is all about.
Oh, I just, it's obviously a huge, I have a huge pan-hios fetish.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, you always ask people on your podcast, I've watched, listen to probably seven or eight of them when I ran across.
And so I listened to them all.
And one thing always comes up and always think, oh, gosh, if I ever talked to her, I'm going to tell her this.
I think it was probably Alex.
One of these guys said, oh, my wife, she said, oh, you care about these pantyhoes.
You probably don't love me.
It's very important, because I'm so excited to do this show,
but it's very important for people listening to understand that.
When I say I mean, me and we,
the guys who have this panos fetish.
So we, I love everything there is about a woman.
I don't want them to think it's just pantos are actually their legs.
So, I mean, I love their hair, their eyes.
I am so attracted to just beautiful women.
but in a sexual sense when we say legs or panties,
we're really talking about, you know,
when we're getting down,
what turns us on is this.
So we love the whole aspect of women's
that hope they don't get nervous thinking,
oh, these guys who have a panier's fetish,
all they care about is pantos.
No, we care about the whole package.
It's just when we zoom in sexually,
that's what gets us, that's what gets us going.
So it's the whole package.
and I've heard you make a few comments
I'm wondering if you know this too
guys are body part guys
We all have our own favorite parts
Women are different
Like I'll hear my wife I'll say
What do you think about that guy? Oh I love his butt
And then the next guy go oh he's got a nice chest
And whatever it'll be so she'll see a guy
And she'll say what about that guy she likes
And that's fine
Well a guy
When we look at women
we have a body part that's our favorite.
That's our sex zone.
Oh, and you're saying that women, right, no, but you're saying that women have a
could have a different body part on each guy.
Is that what you're saying?
But men have like, if they're a tit guy, they're a tit guy with every woman, right?
Right.
So here's a deal.
I'm a leg man.
Yeah.
I find legs the most erotic, most beautiful, sensual part of a woman's body.
So when I look at women, I'm obviously looking at the whole.
pack is like I said. So going forward, I would say, I'm going to find the legs that I like. So I'm not
going to go, oh, she's got good boobs. I like that. No, I'm like, she's got good boobs. How about her
legs? Men are body parts. So if you're a leg guy, that's your turn on. If you're a boob guy,
that's your turn on. You'll see other parts of a woman's body, but that part is what drives you
crazy. Because I remember you saying to one guy, you said, oh, your point is easy for you, because
If you see pantyos everywhere, it's easy for you.
You can get turned on at any time.
Obviously, you get turned on by boobs and all that.
No, that's not true.
If you're, whatever your body part is, that's what turns you on.
Yeah, but don't you think, but let me ask you this, don't you think that if we did a survey with all the pantyhoes guys, guys that are into panos that have a panio's fetish, the majority of them would say that they're like foot leg guys?
Yes.
Yes, that's my point.
Legs and feet are what kind of cousins.
I always said what kind of cousins.
We're really waist-down guys.
But my point is if you have a leg or a foot fetish with the pantos,
you see a girl with a good rack, you're going to go, oh, that looks nice.
But it's not going to sexually turn you on.
Your body part is what turns you on.
And that along.
All right, but let me ask you this.
So if you see legs, let me ask you this, because you're a leg guy, right?
You're also a panty hose guy.
When you go to the beach, right, and you see all the girls running around to their bikinis,
is it the legs that you're looking at?
Does the legs without panty hose turn you on, or is it legs in panty hose?
Okay, well, I think this will answer it.
I'll kind of go back to the beginning because it's really the legs and pantyos.
And here's where it started.
I remember that when I went and it was a third grade,
because I love to answer
this question about fetish to you
in the third grade I'd never forget
my teacher name is Miss Taylor
Oh my God
I'm sorry
I'm telling you
I'm in my mid-50s
And I remember her
I remember her
She got a stool
She sat in the front of the class
She sat down
And I am so mesmerized
By the way women cross their legs
Even in pants
It's just so amazing
The way you guys do that
It's just mind-boggling
That's hilarious
That's interesting
She's kind of a tammage
color skirt
a white blouse. I can still see it. She crosses her legs. And I remember sitting about three rows back
and I remember thinking, gosh, her legs just looked so smooth and so soft. My mind, I just couldn't get
able to affect the shape and how beautifully, how smooth and silky they look. At this age,
there's no sexual nothing. I'm just thinking, wow, that is absolutely gorgeous. So a couple
weeks go by and I
knows I'm walking by my sister's bedroom
there's a crack in the door I look in I see
her on the side of bed I'm just kind of peeking in
and I saw her have something
and her thought it was a sock
she starts to put her
foot through it and I realize it's not a sock
I realized oh she's putting something on these
are panty hose and I saw that look
as she slid it up on leg I saw
that look change
and I said oh my gosh
I love it so here's when you
ask me about legs and panty hose
fetish
Okay
I get wilded up here
So hopefully not too much
But you always ask them
Where did you think you got it
Will you born with it
I totally believe you're born with it
100%
And here's an example I will use
If I take a bucket of water
And go out to a dirt hill
Just pour it on there
The only thing I've made is mud
But if I take that same bucket water
And I put a seed of a rose bush in there
And I pour it
It's going to turn into a
Rose Bush, but something has to be there first.
Right.
And so I think we're born with that.
I always thought you're born with 80 and 85% of your personality, and then you mold it
after that.
And so I think Ms. Taylor's leg was my water.
I had a seed in me that I like the certain look.
I'm a leg guy.
And so when I saw that look on her legs, and then a couple weeks later saw my sister putting
something on, I said, oh, there's something creating that look.
And that created a fetish because women don't understand this.
Men are fascinated by what women wear on their bodies.
Are they?
And I don't think women understand it.
Here's the proof.
How many times over all these years have you got an instant message pop up or on a radio show you to her post?
Somebody say, hey, what are you wearing?
What are you wearing?
Right.
That's always the question.
And women don't get that.
We're asking because we're fascinated.
Because we see you guys of having the most beautiful.
soft skin and the idea that you're wearing something so soft, whether it's silk or whatever,
or it's satin, and for me it's the nylon panty, there's something that's touching your
beautiful soft skin.
Try this great.
So when I'm looking at my teacher, Ms. Taylor, and then I realize here's this material
that she's got covering the most beautiful part of the body that I love, I think the fetish
didn't seeped in, so it is the panes.
I should go back to the beach.
I'll see a girl with nice legs.
I like legs.
I'm like, oh, that looks great.
But the sexual drive and turn on is when you add pantyhose to it because of the look
and the idea that you're wearing something on a part of the body that I find so soft.
Right.
And that's it because that's it.
Because you've got to understand.
But I have to tell you, when guys used to ask me, or like if a guy would ask me like,
hey, baby, what are you wearing?
I always think, right, that he wants me to be like, oh, a sexy lingerie or like this bra or here's a picture of my pussy.
Like, you know what I mean?
I'm never thinking he wants me to be like, oh, a silk, you know, silk stockings or like.
When he's waiting to hear what you say, whatever it is he likes.
But what should the girl say back to turn on the guy?
What does the guy want here?
Because half the time we're at the gym and we're just going to send back a text and turn on.
What are we going to say?
It depends on what you like.
It depends on what you're like.
Let's say I'm a guy who likes boobs and brawls.
So if I ask you that, I'm hoping you come back to,
oh, I've got this beautiful satin brawl or this beautiful lacy brawl.
That's what you're in for a guy like me,
I'm picturing your body.
And if you come back and you say, oh, I've got these silk stockings or these pantyhors on,
I'm going, oh, my gosh.
So we're hoping we get back what we want to hear.
The worst, the most boring.
Because I talk to guys, I like to play around.
is when a woman says, I'm naked.
I don't think, no, but I don't think you're right.
I think that there are naked guys.
I've dated them.
They're like, they don't care what hot outfit you put on.
They just want to take it off.
They're like naked guys.
Yes, they just want to see.
There are those guys.
There's no doubt.
But for a guy, for most guys, because while they always ask you, for a guy with a fetish,
that is going to be totally a different answer.
So I wanted to tell you this.
I've been thinking about this conversation, and it kind of goes back to your question about nude pantyos, and I want to tell you why panos are so incredible.
Because guys keep saying, oh, it looked great, and it felt great, and you always keep moving on to the field, the feel, and that's fine.
But you got to understand something.
And I, like I say, I'm older.
I've been on the Internet for a long time.
Right.
I love questioning people and asking.
You got to understand that.
The A number one turn on with legs and panties is the look first.
Interesting.
Right.
That it makes the leg look smooth.
It makes the leg look smooth, right?
Is that what it is?
It's like changing the appearance and making it look perfect.
Absolutely.
Here's what happens.
Because of the look, there's pantyos do three things that nothing else can do.
when you put them on, there's going to be a beautiful line of light,
this very smooth, shiny line of light that's going to run from underneath here,
wherever your hemline finishes, let's say a woman sits down across its her leg,
and you look at her, those panos are going to grab every bit of light.
It's going to create this beautiful line, this shine line from up the thigh,
over the knee, around the calves to the foot.
I'm nipping up the sweet zone, and that is what every single solitary Panios lover dies for.
Okay.
You're in comment.
Oh, look at the shine on that Pantios.
Oh, my God, look at that beautiful shine.
Whether it's a soft sheen or it's a bright, sharp shine.
That is A number one.
That is going to grab you like nobody's business.
Number two, from the sweet spot the shine out to the edge of the leg,
Paneos make the legs look absolutely perfect tone color.
They make them look extremely soft and silky to the touch.
There's no blemishes.
Everything is perfect.
So the contrast between when I look at a woman and I see her legs cross and I see this beautiful shine,
this soft look outside that shine, those two combinations together,
your brain's like, oh my gosh.
Then the third, Pantios give the outside of the,
your leg definition. It makes the sculpture of your leg perfect. It defines the outside edge in every
muscle shape, every curve, every tongue now comes edge. It defines the outside line, so it makes it
more defined. So when I look at a girl and her legs across, I see that smooth, silky look, that
shine. In my brain, this is where the feeling comes. Your brain says to yourself, oh my God,
that is the smoothest silk.
I bet that is the softest thing you'll ever going to touch in your life.
The look just says silky, smooth, soft.
So you haven't felt it yet, but your eyeballs, because guys are so visual,
says, wow, hold on a second.
And then when you feel it, you're like, wow, that is the silkiest thing of it.
So your eye is all about those.
Why goes to look at pictures, videos, when you see that leg,
with the shine, the smooth silk look, that is A number one because it tells our brain what we think
it feels like.
So the nude thing is like is the best because, but I have had a lot of guys, Panningos guys on
recently who are like the black stockings, but the nude then would, it mimics the regular leg
the best, right?
Yes.
Here's, yes.
I'm telling you after all my years of talking and you can tell I, I guess I like to talk,
I love what people think.
me too and I like and I have to say normally I really like to delve into like a more personal um you know more personal issues but because I've had so many podcast podcasts with pantyho's guys on and you've listened to them to have a guy like you come on and talk about it from this standpoint is something I normally wouldn't allow for other things but I think it's actually really interesting because you've done a lot of the research and
And I've had so many people on and talked about their history.
And now you're going to come on and really explain those.
So go for it.
I'm just going to sit back and listen.
Yeah, because I've heard some of your podcasts and I love them.
And I kept thinking, I love to deep down tell her why.
Why?
So here's the nude panty.
There's a lot of black.
There's a lot of black.
Yeah.
But nude.
And here's the reason why it's.
I'm going to give you an analogy and I think you'll understand it.
Why nude?
Let's say you have a girlfriend.
Her name's Jenny.
And you're like,
Jimmy, she's really pretty.
You see in her daytime, she's got this beautiful face and you like her hair and all that,
and she's absolutely beautiful.
Now, let's say you tell Gin, we're going to go out tonight.
Let's get dressed up.
Ginny comes down the stairs and you get that, oh, my, she got a beautiful makeup on her.
You see movies a million times.
The guy likes the girl.
He goes a picture up and like, what is the first look on his face when she comes down
all dressed up?
Wow.
So you look at Ginny's face.
Her eye, everything is perfect.
Now, you wouldn't go up to, you would say Jenny, you know,
why do you have that color on your face?
Why do you put black on your face or purple or pink?
She'd say, what the hell are you talking about?
You'd say, well, your skin's already pink.
Why don't you make it another color?
She's going to say, dumbass.
Makeup I put the stuff on my face that smooth out my skin.
I'm putting it on my eyes and make my eyes pop.
You know, makeup helps define my cheekbones,
and it takes what I already have,
which you said in the daytime was beautiful,
and it just enhances it.
I don't want to change anything.
I want to make my skin, tan skin look perfectly tan.
I want to look flawless.
I want to make my eyes populous.
I'm not trying to change anything.
I'm just trying to make it look perfect.
Well, that's what panty has to do.
Why tan?
Because we, I love the natural beauty.
So if I see a girl on a beach, she's got nice tan legs.
It's beautiful.
Right.
Because I love that natural look.
And that's all of this pantyos guys on.
So when you add nude or sun tan or whatever your skin ton of it is,
I'm not trying to change.
change the look like I'm not trying to change the look at your face.
I'm trying to make it look perfect.
So it takes that beautiful look that will love the natural, beautiful tan look
or whatever your skin color is.
And when you add that news panties, now it does those three things I talked about.
Just like makeup to your face.
It enhances makes your calf muscles more defined.
It makes your thigh muscles smooth and silky.
But I'm not changing the color because I love the natural color you have.
I just enhance it.
So we love new because it takes the beautiful.
colorful color that you have and it acts like makeup.
It just makes it perfect and flawless.
And that's why we love new because I almost drove off the road the other day listening.
I think it was Peter or Alex wanted to.
Oh, do you like that ugly nude color?
I'm like, I'm about to drive off the road.
You've got to be kidding.
That's the best because I want to keep your natural beauty.
It's like I say with the makeup to the face.
I don't want you putting black and purple and green.
You want to put a foundation that is the same color you have.
You're trying to smooth and beauty it out.
That's what you're trying to do.
But new does that.
We die.
We absolutely for that.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's funny because.
Yeah, go on.
No, I was going to say, I'm sorry if I keep jumping.
No, no, no, like I said, I'm going to sit back and let you just.
No, no, listen, I'm just going to sit back and let you do your thing.
and to talk on all the points you want to.
Like I said, I've had so many pantyhose guys on and we go back to their history and I do all that.
And I love doing that right.
Typically, I wouldn't allow for just like a big more general sort of show on things.
But for pantyhose, I welcome it.
And it's actually interesting.
And I think that my listeners will really like it.
So keep going.
Okay.
When you say, you know, you guys, this is the easiest.
What are you embarrassed about?
I'm shy, but I'm kind of quiet.
until I get to know you.
So you got to understand, I was very nervous about, embarrassed about it.
I am still today.
I wouldn't tell a lot of people.
And I laugh and you go, oh, that's so nothing.
I mean, go ahead, guys, you got to understand that the baggage you carry,
everybody when you grow up has hangups, and that hang up is put on you at a young age,
and that's a baggage you're going to carry.
I mean, almost like you get ready to leave, you pick your baggage up and you take it
with you in the airport.
Well, that's your emotional baggage.
So when I grew up in the mid-70s, and I noticed Ms. Taylor, okay?
So I'm thinking, well, here, let me tell you this.
When I saw Ms. Taylor what I dreamed about, we're just going up and hugging it, kissing it, feel.
I just wanted to feel that soft, smooth.
I used to dream of her sitting in the bed, and I would just, she'd have her legs out in front,
same skirt, dress, little heels, and I would just put my face on her thighs,
put my arms around her cast and just hug it and fall asleep like a soft blanket.
That's what I dreamed about.
Now, then when about 12 came and my dick woke up, that's what I call it when you hit people
and the dick woke up.
One day I look at a picture or maybe I saw somebody.
I can't remember which one it was, but it just like somebody threw cold water in my face.
I thought, oh my gosh, I've always wanted a hug and kiss and touch them.
what if I, because my dick just woke up, and I said, what if my dick touched something so soft?
And so soon as I saw her these legs, when I hit puberty, my dream and my fantasy was,
oh my gosh, I want a woman to sit like Miss Taylor, her legs beautifully across, I want to slide my cock up and down those legs.
I want to feel that soft, smooth, silky feel on my cock.
So put that in mind, I'm 12, 13, 14 years old.
Now I'm hanging around all my friends.
After baseball practice, whatever you do as kids.
I never heard Jimmy or fran or anybody go, oh, did you see the legs on Tammy?
Oh, great.
God, you see the pantos?
So the reinforcement was, no, it's TNA.
And the 70s like tits and pussy, that's it.
If you like something else, you're freaking weird, man, because it's pounding in you.
I mean, I never heard a friend of mine ever mentioned it.
I'm nobody.
I thought, my God, I mean, no, I don't want to see Jenny's pussy.
I want to see her legs.
I know, but you have to understand a part of, I know, but you have to understand that a part of the reason that I, why I do my show is for specifically people like you and people in our generation who have all this quote unquote baggage that to maybe open it up and be done with it.
Like, that's why I say that.
I know it's not easy, okay, but it's, it will change your life to open it up.
And I think the, and people have, I've had people on that have come to terms with their fetish much later in life.
And it is, it does change your life and it is a positive experience.
So that's why I say it.
I know that it's difficult and I know that people and I know why people are carrying it.
I'm a part of your generation.
I know how you grew up and how taboo it was and how we can't, you know.
But I hope that by people listening to maybe the younger people who are open about it or the people that have been able to be.
open about it, even though it's something that has, you know, been a no-no since day one,
you know, I think that that's helpful because I think as long as you're alive, you could change.
Yeah.
I think it's awesome.
I kind of agree with you.
I just wanted you to understand that, that, honestly, I'm so much more comfortable with it.
But what, you know, whatever emotional baggage you create, it's always, what you're going to do is be able to live with it,
because you're never going to dump the baggage.
It always does it.
I love it when I hear you say, it's not.
a big deal, but in my mind, I'm like, yeah, I know, and I can, I can live better with my bag.
It's just never going to go away. I'm always going to feel a little funny better, but I'm so
much more comfortable about it. Does your wife know about it?
She knows about my opinion Spanish, but she totally doesn't understand it, totally doesn't get it,
doesn't play into it. So, yeah, so, you know, I would love to, you remember I mentioned
that about a spoke and a wheel?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, because you always talk about gateway.
I'd love to tell you how I think about it.
And now we'll bring up all these stories.
I look at panty hose.
If you look at a wheel, like a bicycle wheel, you have an axle and you have spokes.
To me, panty hose for me are my axle.
That is the center point of everything.
Panny hose is my sexual center.
And then the spokes of the things that I learned as I grew that I liked.
And if you want, I could kind of walk to some of these and they kind of help tell the story.
Sure.
Explain.
Oh, one thing about a fetish, when you have it, I guess it's more than the like, because you always ask somebody, you know, what does it do?
I want people to understand when you have a fetish like I do for me, when I see a pair of legs, she's sitting, her legs are beautifully crossed.
Man, my heart drops.
I'm telling you, there is a chemical that squirted into your body.
It is like you're on a drug.
You know, you are flowed.
That's why I'll be 90, and I can see a woman in Pannios, and I can see the same picture
a bazillion times.
I'm going to get completely hard and turned on, but it never gets old, because it's more than
just the like.
I almost feel it's almost like an out-of-body experience, I swear.
It's almost like these drugs.
I hear people say, oh, I cook this drug, and it makes you flood your brain.
You're so in this unerphoric state.
A fetus will put you in a normal, just, just,
drugs that you are so sexually aroused, you are so sexually turned on just by the thought,
the sight of your fetish.
So it's so much more than anybody with the fetish hears me say that, they're like, yeah.
It is hard to explain what it does to you.
It is a physical and a chemical.
I swear I can feel it squirt in my veins.
The heart rate goes, you just can't stop thinking about you are so erotically in this zone.
So just wanted to let you know that about it.
So like I say, when I turned into puberty, my dick turned on,
just to hear a girl say the word panty-hose, just to hear her say it,
I would get so aroused.
Because I was quiet and shy.
I didn't date a whole lot.
And I never got to say to a girl, oh, my gosh.
And I would never in those days say, oh, gosh, you're, like, you're so beautiful.
It was my little secret.
But to see him on the bus, oh, my God, this girl.
got on the bus one time.
All her legs were incredible.
Beautiful pantos.
And I heard her say to the other girl, oh, crap, I got to run in my pantyos.
Do you have any?
And just, I was in front of them when I heard that.
My heart jumped five beats.
Right.
I'm not kidding.
And you wanted to wise because it relates back in my head.
I know what you're talking about.
I know where you wear them.
And I know what they look like.
So that picture jumped.
And I also like, you know.
Some of the other guy said when I used to go over to a friend's house, I guess I was 14, 15.
Oh my God, there's like a kid in a candy store.
Somebody go, hey, man, I'm going to go and see if I get some old guy to buy his beer.
And I'd be, like, hey, you know, I'll just hang here if you guys want to go try and get some.
Man, when they left the house, it was like, you remember the Willie Walker's Chocolate Factory,
the one in the 70s when they first walked into the big seeds of all the chocolate.
And that's me.
I was like, oh, my God, my heart started racing.
My thoughts go a thousand miles an hour, like, I got to go into the sister for him.
I remember opening the drawer.
Oh, my gosh.
And I see the panty hose sitting just, you got to understand, because it's all new to you,
you're young, just to see those panty hose.
I remember picking them up.
Now, I wasn't like everybody.
I didn't jack off in them.
I'm just to touch them, just to look at them.
See, somebody asked, if you just saw, I think one of your guy with Alex or Hank, I'm not sure,
I said, if you just see panties, it turn you on.
He's like, no, no, no, no.
For me, yes, and a lot of us, yes, because in my brain, I know where you wear them.
I know where they've been.
I know what they look like when you put them on, and that's my fetish.
So, hold this thing in my skin that you put up against those beautiful legs of yours, this material that I find so erotic, I would just, and then I'd go into the mother's room.
Your hands are shaking.
Look, my hands would shake a thousand miles an hour that I'm going to get to see it.
and to open that drawer and to see those pannios sitting there.
You remember, this is the 70s, so everybody wore them.
It was absolutely a huge perna.
I didn't jack off in them.
Did you steal them?
No, I didn't steal them because I was terrified that somebody would know they're missing.
So, no, I definitely didn't tear them.
Now, the other thing I did, see, I call these spokes, touching's a spoke,
going in and rubbing your dick on it.
That's a spoke from what I've learned in another smoke.
A lot of guys mentioned this.
I think I was about 13.
I used to get up from school about 2.30.
So I was probably, I guess, eighth grade, seventh grade, I don't remember.
But I remember seeing getting home, I thought, I want to wear these.
I want to see what it feels like.
And I was home alone.
And I would go, so I'd go into my mom's room.
I can still see it down.
I'd open that drawer.
I see those pantingos.
I would put them on.
and I would see that look.
I'd see that shine on myself.
I'd feel it.
And you asked somebody,
so when did you start jacking off?
Well,
I jacked off in their leaves,
but I did it different.
I used to lay on my back.
I would think about a woman in Panios,
or I'd be looking at a magazine
of the seers, cattle,
whatever it might be,
or if I'm wearing them,
and then I'd roll over on my stomach
and I'd just start rubbing my dick
into the bed,
into the sheets.
That's how I'd just,
jacked off. For the long guitar, probably
axel with 18 or 19.
I never grabbed my hand around my cock and jacket.
I would sit in my bed and fantasize about a girl
sitting across in her legs or,
this is fun. You remember the old he-ho?
That old show. And they had the girls who would be in pain.
You can see them in the little shorts, and they had one team
these guys would be laying out in front of the old shack telling
some stupid story, but in the back, it'd be a girl sitting in a chair
with one leg straight out and the other foot sliding up and down the other
or laying on their side, kind of sliding one leg up and down.
So I would picture that in my mind.
And then when I got hard and I'm ready, I would roll over.
And I would think about it and just rub my dick into the bed.
I jacked off.
So I put my mom's panty on.
I can still see it.
I can still feel it.
I'd rub myself into the bed.
And if I came, I'd freaked out.
I'd go clean it.
Or if I didn't, I'd take them off and try and wipe them off.
Make sure there's nothing in there.
but yes, I would say most, all panty, not all, but I think it always at some point
reverts to putting them on yourself.
I've heard a lot of guys say no.
Yeah.
Because look, like I say, it goes back.
It starts with women in pantos.
That is my 1,000% true love.
There's nothing better than seeing a woman like yourself in beautiful pantyhoes, your dress night.
That's number one, but be spokes.
You see, I have lots of spokes.
So that's a spoke who's putting it on.
I love the feel and I love the look.
And so that's a...
Now, does your wife know about that part of your fetish or just that you want her to wear them?
She knows that I love to wear them.
She knows that.
She knows that I'm completely turned on.
She just doesn't get it.
And what bothers me, I'm going to be 100% honest in this call.
I love her to death.
I've been married over 30 years.
But the one aspect, it really kind of makes me mad in some sense.
Because she knows I love them so.
much and she sees how they affect me.
And she knows I like to wear them.
But she never just puts them on or like I'll go on the internet.
I'll see these guys with their girlfriends and they're both wearing them.
And I know she's probably not into it as much, but she's playing into it.
It's like, hey, he likes this.
This is fun.
I'm going to do it.
She's not like that.
If I say, hey, would you wear these?
She's like, okay.
But it's like, she'll sit in a chair across her legs and I'll look and I'll jack off and I'll touch him.
but I'm very erotic.
The brain, you've got to induce my brain, man.
You've got to make me think of what might happen.
And I see these videos where the girl, the guy comes out of the shower,
and she's laying on the bed so sexy.
Or she doesn't, she doesn't.
So it makes me, man, because in some sense, a little bit,
because I'm thinking, if you know I love this,
why wouldn't you play?
It's like, if you were a great cook and your husband,
like, wouldn't you love the cook great meals for him if he loved them?
You're like, oh, my husband loves this.
I'm a cook.
But okay, but to stick up for your wife, right?
If we had like, you know, you've been married 30 years.
I bet you anything.
She'd be like, yeah, well, I love compliments and he never gives those to me.
Like, I mean, I think that what happens when you're with the same person for a really long period of time, you lose that part of, you know, that part of the, like the part of you were that you're just trying so hard to make them happy all the time because you have them.
Like, you know, I mean, I just think it happens that you might have to remind.
her or really express it and then maybe you'll get more of those scenarios coming up you know for a
couple months after and then she'll probably go back to forgetting about it but don't you think that's
it's more like that no well not in my case because no you've been from the beginning she's always
over i love you so beautiful all this but this she just she's not the biggest sexual person so she just
doesn't understand it she just doesn't understand it so even when we're in first marriage she she would
wear more and she tried to turn me a little bit but not like I just want to be so erotic I'm such
an erotic person and there's so many things we can do more than just put them on so and she doesn't
want to go there yeah I'm just if I ask her she will I just I want to ask I want to yeah I just I was like
hey you know I know you I when I see these people on the internet and I'm like they just do it together
they incorporate it together.
They have such fun.
So what I did was I got a job where I traveled a lot.
So this was about the time that the Internet really took office would be the mid-90s.
So what I would do, because since I started with the corporate world,
I had this spoke that kind of grew.
I figured out I loved that when I'd go to lunch, I'd walk, you know, up and down the river
walk.
And if I saw a woman sitting on a bench and her legs crossed, I go, oh, my gosh, she's wearing you.
and everybody was wondering about that, and I would walk by, and their legs in the sun.
Oh, my God, I was done.
And I got this for a couple years where I just, I had a huge turn on to say as I walked by,
man, your legs look beautiful.
Your legs look beautiful.
And I think it's because I was so shy, and I'm starting to open up.
It was like these things I'd never done before.
I wanted to see what if woman's reaction, I wanted to be able to say out loud to a stranger,
gosh, your legs are beautiful.
So for a couple of years, I'd do eat my lunch.
I'd look up and down the river.
If I saw somebody, I'd walk that way.
As I walked by, I'd look down and I'd be pumping.
I'd say, oh, you have beautiful leg.
I'm curious what they'd say back.
It was such a thoreal.
May someone say thank you?
Someone would just look at you.
But that's something I learned by love.
No, now anyone listening, if anyone says that to them,
they're going to be like, fuck off.
He's just like trying to catch her.
Probably.
Probably.
Yeah.
So I started traveling, and man, the eroticism.
even grew because I was like, okay, so I took panty hose in my, you know, when I'd go to a
different town, it'd be a different week or so I'd take panty hose. And remember, internet cameras
had just started. So first when I started going out of town, I'd be up till three, four,
sometimes I was up to five in the morning and I had to get up at six or seven. I'd many times,
I'd take all the towns to Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore, I was traveling all over Atlanta.
And I remember going, God, it's four in the morning I got, but I was so thrilled. So my first time,
I would look at pictures.
It was nothing but there's, remember, it was AOL.
Yeah.
And so you go on AOL, you try and find, I was just, I would pull every Panyos picture.
I jack off to them.
That was first, and then just to hear what people think, so then instant message came.
So just to see a woman type in the word Pantios used to make me harder than a brick.
So I go in a chat room, I go, hey, how can I get them to say Pantios?
So what I do is I say, hey, instant message, hey, you know, there's a little.
of restaurant hooters?
Yeah.
I know women hate pantios
most of a lot of them.
So I'd say,
oh, what's the one thing
about the uniform you hate?
And just to see them
pipe back pantos
would crush my heart
but turned me on
at the same time.
They wrote I try
and get into a discussion
with them.
But then came the camera
and this is where it really took off.
The webcam?
The webcam.
Yeah.
So back there,
there wasn't a lot of websites,
but I knew a lot of
IT stuff.
So I realized
in Microsoft that thing called NetMeeting
where you could turn your camera on
and you could give somebody your IP address
and they can come in and see you.
So I remember I spent a lot of time in Philadelphia
and so I was in the hotel
and I had these panios with me
and then I started wearing them more
and this is going to sound really weird
but I always thought I looked pretty good at them.
And what I found
was because I like I was like to self-diagnose
I started when I wear them
it's not about just wearing it
sometimes if you would probably ask me, would you wear them on your clothes?
I hear you about to get in the wreck, so I don't do it because that would be the day.
I get the wreck and, oh, my gosh, I'm wearing pantos.
But I went out of town.
I did put them on sometimes to go out to dinner, but it's not a big thrill.
For me, it was bringing out my feminine side.
I didn't want to just be a guy wearing pantyos in my shorts and jeans.
I want to kind of play the girl role.
I want to look down and kind of, you know, to turn on.
to see
you kind of look, you know,
I think every guy
has a little feminine side
and I think all girls
have a male of a maleish side.
So I don't want to just
where I want to wear skirt.
I want to wear heels.
So I figured out I like to,
this is a spoke.
I like the cross dress
from the waist down.
I don't put on wigs and makeup.
Not that that's bad if they want to do it.
Just for me,
I like to look from the waist down
and see a female.
So when I did the camera,
camera and I started, you know, taking pictures.
I started taking tons of pictures.
It was fun to go to a website and put them out there.
And I was so aroused by what people would like back.
I was like, oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh.
You know, people are saying this about me now.
Right.
It was a huge, it was an absolutely huge turn on to do, to take just tons of pictures.
And put them up there, right?
And this was, were you doing stuff like this while you were married?
What do you mean when I was married?
Like was this going on when you were married?
Like, you know, posting these things and doing all this.
This was so you were like doing this behind your wife's back, right?
This wasn't when you were single before you were married.
Yes, this is the double life.
This is, you know, after I got married and I knew kind of what we would do, I just, I just these things came up.
I want to be seen in them.
I want to see what people think.
And so I'm in a hotel.
You start acting kind of all your brains.
this fetish, I'm telling you, makes you
do things you would never do.
First time, I think it was in Atlanta,
I went to, I call
an adult bookstore, because that's what they called my day.
And I walk in, I'm like, I want to look at all the videos,
is there anything about pantos and legs?
And I walked in one Atlanta, and this girl's dressed in lingerie.
I was like, what the hell?
That was when the modeling, they used to have laundry
modeling. And she goes, oh, if you pick
something out, I'll wear it for you.
It's like, holy shit. Well, I didn't do it then,
but later on, as much,
Once this couple of months later, I had to go to Tampa.
I spent a lot of time in Tampa, and they had a lot, this is the mid-90s, they had a lot of laundry modeling places.
So at night, I would get in my car, the little car, I'd drive around because I'd forward out of car, and it was so exciting to walk into one.
You see the glow of the window.
You're like, oh, that's one.
And you'd walk in, and girls would be sitting there, and they'd say, oh, you know, you want the drive for me to model, and I'd get one aside.
I was always so quiet and shy, I'd be like, look, I have this weird thing I like.
And they go, well, what is it?
And I say, I love pantyhous.
And they're like you.
Well, that's nothing.
I was like, really?
And I said, if I bought something about it, would you model them for me?
She's like, yeah.
Oh, goodness gracious.
Because, look, like I said, I didn't date a cond.
I was shy.
In my teenage years, this panty hose that just drove me crazy because I thought I was the only guy on the planet.
Right.
And so I remember my sister's friends, kind of one got passed out and fell on the bed.
I remember walking in there, and her leg, she's sitting there in her panty hose, and I was like, I was probably 14 or 50.
I thought, man, I want to talk about.
I didn't.
But it drove me insane.
And my biggest thing if he was rubbing my cock on the leg, I wanted to see if it felt.
And even when I went out with girls, I was so embarrassed about it.
I never would make any point about her legs and penis because I thought, I think I heard Alex and one of them say, oh, I remember the kid, the commercials would come on.
I thought everybody was looking at me.
And my dad, they're all staring at me.
Oh, Jimmy, he's turned on by this.
And I would do the same thing.
And in the 70s, there were a lot of Pantios commercials for Haynes.
And the one you didn't know the name of in the egg, that's called sheer energy.
What is it called?
That's the leg, sheer energy.
Oh, sheer energy.
Right, right.
Now I remember.
Oh, my goodness.
When I used to wear my mom, she wore the cheap ones, like, no nonsense.
Yeah.
But one day, I was walking and I saw in the bathroom.
My sister had her pair, and it just looked different.
I grabbed it.
I was like, oh, my God, these are more shiny.
They were my first love.
of will sheer energy.
You know, by coming called legs in the eggs, it's called sheer energy.
And when you put them all, they gave, because none of nonsense has no shine.
There's not much to them, but we all love the shine to these other brands would give
a shine.
To even hold it my hand, I can see the shine.
Right.
And that just drove me crazy.
And now I'm out and about, and I'm taking these pictures, and I'll put them out there,
then it grew into, I want to wear it's got.
So it was fun to see if I could fool somebody.
I knew it was a guy.
I didn't care.
I was like, oh, I pretended I was a girl.
Would you like to see a picture?
I just got home from work.
And I'd send a picture.
And it was so, I'd turn on if he didn't pipe back and say, oh, man, your legs look great.
I'm like, oh, my gosh.
So that's a spoke, you know.
And then there was another website that came out, and I'll never forget it.
There's so many video sites now, but this is called, way back in it, it was called,
Hear Me, See Me.
It was the first video thing I ever saw.
So you would go out of your application and you're four or five cities,
Los Angeles, New York, blah, blah, blah, you'd pick it.
And there would be a couple rooms.
And so at this point, I was starting to carry skirts with me because I just,
I love to do now, not just in pantyos, but I wanted to see myself in the skirt and heels.
So I remember being in this chat room and we're talking to some women in there.
And I said, oh, I love to wear pantyos.
I remember you could have one camera on at a time.
And the girl lady goes, well, get on camera on what's what your legs look like.
And I remember, I'll never forget this.
I turned on the camera, and the camera would show by your name,
and then there would be like a little eyeball by somebody's name,
meaning that's who's looking at you.
You can only get one at a time on those days.
And I'll never forget this woman goes.
It made me want to dress even more.
She goes, oh, my God.
And it's like, what?
She goes, you have better legs than I do.
Are you sure you're a guy?
No way.
Yeah.
She goes, your legs are gorgeous.
And I remember thinking, oh, my God, and that started an avalanche of you won't believe.
Because, look, it was a huge turn on.
It was a massive, massive turn on.
And to be honest, it sounded weird.
I guess I take off more of my mom.
My mom has always known she had beautiful legs.
I'm built like her.
So it sounds weird.
But when I look at my legs and pantos on a skirt, I think they look as good as any girl.
I know that sounds weird.
And it's crazy.
But I can see that look.
And did that freak you out when I said that?
It's kind of weird.
No, I think it freaks you out, maybe.
But no, not me.
I've heard a lot.
I've heard a lot.
You can't, it's hard to freak me out.
Okay.
Okay.
But I did.
I did.
And so I started, you know, wearing and camming for people.
I love to put skirts on to this day.
There's a website called Pal Talk.
There's Skype.
I love a place called Pal Talk, because it's more personal, so I'll go into a chat room.
And it's generally, I go into the gay rooms because I've tried the regular, and women just don't really give a shit.
And I want people to see me.
I want to see what they say.
Right.
So I've gotten comfortable to the point that I know it's a guy, so I'll turn my camera on.
And I love the instant messages that pop up.
Oh, my God, you look great.
Oh, your legs are fantastic.
So I've got these beautiful pantyhoes, my legs look good.
And I love to play the part of the girl.
I love to see what people say
Not because I want to be a girl
I know everybody talks about that
I want to be a guy 99% of the time
But there's that
Times when I'm like
I want that
I want to see what is it like
I want to see people's reaction to me
Like I used to do the girl
Like I do do the girls
You know
Well when I see a girl
With her beautiful ex-opinions
I'm like oh my God
It's so gorgeous
So now hearing guys
There's somebody looking at me
Saying that back to me
In my kind of playing the role
of the girl, it's just a big turn on.
It's just a, it's a huge turn on.
So I do that.
But let me ask you this. Do you get turned on if like a guy is,
do you get even more turned on if a guy is giving you that attention?
Because I have heard a lot that, you know, from people who like to cross dress or this
new thing that I've heard about that isn't new, which is new to me is like, you know,
guys, when they do dress up as a woman, they,
want to feel like a woman and getting that attention from a man makes them feel like a woman.
Like that's the role play that goes into it.
You know, have you ever dabbled in that or is it strictly like getting women to tell you?
No.
No, I would love for it to all be women and it's a huge turn on to feel like when that lady said it.
But I'm okay because you're so I didn't tell you, I ran across a website that said men and pantos.
I was in Atlanta.
I'll never forget it.
And I kind of giggle because all those years I'm looking for pictures of women in pannios.
That's what drives me crazy.
So I went into it, and it was men where nothing but Panios, no crawled just men.
And I remember thinking, okay, shit, I could feel my balls start to tingle.
I was like, holy shit.
I closed it, I laughed at it, and the whole next day at work, I couldn't stop the thing about it.
So I have come in either 10 years, 15 years later, I'm straight, but I find the sight of a guy's cock under Panyo's so incredibly arousing, sexy, erotic.
And I started to think, why?
Well, I used to buy a magazine called Leg Show.
That was, if anybody out there knows, it's the best leg magazine.
When I first saw it, my heart almost jumped out of my chest.
I mean, oh, my gosh, there was so many pictures of beautiful women in Pannios.
This would have been about the early 90s.
And I noticed in the pictorial sets, the ones that drove me the most crazy,
were the ones where Guy's cock looks like it might touch her leg.
because that was my fantasy growing up
what would it feel like to touch something
so smooth and so soft with my cock
because when you have a fetish, your cock is like so
turned on anything.
Your whole body rushes from your body to your cock.
Every feeling you have rushes to this thing.
And so I'm looking at these pictorials
with these girls and these panos
as guys' cock's like five inches away
in my mind thinking, did he ever touch it?
Did you rub it on it?
So I started thinking, well, why are cock on their pantos?
I think it's the same thing.
thing. I'm like, okay, I love the picture
the thought of a cock, touch in the
pantos, but now the sea in it
underneath there, you're thinking something
so feminine, it belongs to a female,
and you're covering this big
ugly man cock
that shouldn't be there
and the thought of it touching this
big cock underneath something so
silky, so smooth,
I find it a huge turn.
Maybe it's like, because you said you're not,
like, maybe it's like a projection.
It's like you're seeing, it's like,
you're seeing what turns you on the most.
It's almost like you're seeing you outside of yourself, right?
So it's kind of like a projection.
It's not about that man.
If he had a face, you'd be like, ugh.
But it's almost like it's connected to you in a way.
I'm thinking it's like more like projecting yourself into that scenario because that's
what turns you on so much.
Yeah, I am projecting, but it's more.
I've come to the realization.
I do find a man's cock and pantos a huge.
huge turn on.
So if you saw that guy's face and his legs and it's a guy, that's a turn on to you.
Yeah, because I'm not really turned on by men's legs in panties because we just don't have
the shape legs that women do.
Right.
Maybe 5% of men.
Right.
But mostly so for me, when I like to cross shows, I like to see a girl from the waist down.
But when I see a guy, I'm really just interested in their cock under panty hose.
Right.
That's what turns me on.
So you are kind of turned on by guys.
you might be slightly.
I am.
Yeah.
Okay.
I thought you said to you're totally enough.
Yeah.
But not by a man, by their face and all, no.
It's just that cock under panty hose.
I think I'm at an age where I've done so much the kink is building.
And just a thought as a cock.
And I just like the way it looks, the way it hangs and how.
Maybe it's because I have one.
And it shouldn't be under that.
It's for females.
I find you highly erotic.
But I was,
okay with that and I've taken that further gosh there's just so much to say so much to talk about
so what do you mean you took it further what what what what what are you talking about what did you
do how far have you taken it well you know after I realized that I I I am attracted to a cock
opinion I'll tell you kind of kind of how that started is um when I used to travel like I told you and
I used to go in the chat rooms I
I remember I wanted to talk to somebody about pantyos, and in the chat room there's always guys.
And I just got this thought I really wanted to speak with somebody.
So at some point, I remember thinking, I'm going to just ask.
So I said, hey, does anybody want to talk about pantyos?
And I put, I was in a hotel because I traveled, and I put the telephone number to the hotel, my room number.
And I said, you know, I'll call you.
I like to talk to you.
So I said, okay, call me right back.
You know, call me up to hell.
because I'm online, and so I hang up, and I remember sitting here thinking,
this is going to be a guy who calls me, and I thought, I really don't care.
And when the phone rang, I remember being so excited, like, oh, my gosh, I'm going to talk
about pantyos.
I remember picking up the phone, and this guy's like, hey, how's it going?
And I'm laying in there in my panty hose.
I'm laying on the bed.
I'm going to, hey, how's it going?
And just starting to talk, he's like, you were in pantyhers?
I said, yeah.
And in my mind, I'm thinking, this is a guy, and then it just clicked.
I remember thinking, I don't give a shit.
It was really eternal.
And hear this guy say, he goes, well, how do they feel?
I said, then I just started going.
I said, man, these things.
I said, you should see what I'm seeing?
He says, what do you see?
I said, man, my legs.
I'm saying, I'm looking right now.
It's got this gorgeous shiny.
Oh, it real soft look?
And I said, yeah.
And we're talking about my legs.
I'm getting so aroused, even though the guys, I didn't care.
And then explaining it to my cock looked in it and everything.
So that's when I got comfortable with a guy.
it would so I thought
that point I was like okay it really doesn't matter
it was a turn on so when I say the
next level the next thing happened
when I was out of town
I was in Atlanta and
in midtown Atlanta there's a
it's a big gay area I remember thinking what I
like to do was I had a pair of pantos
I cut the leg off the panty hose
and I'd roll it down like a stocking
and put it my sock and I would walk outside
and walk around the Maywood from the hotel
and what I just was such a thrill
my heart's pumping up
I want somebody to see me.
There's a part of me in my spoke of now being seen because I was always so embarrassed about it and shy about it.
Now I'm figuring out so many people, there's no big deal.
So it's allowing my shield to go down, even though I'm very nervous about being seen.
But that's a part of the turn on, right?
I've heard that before, yeah.
Which is a new spoke.
It's a new spoke.
I want to be seen.
And so what I do is walk around.
And if I saw a couple guys coming, and I just thought more.
comfortable, they're probably gay because they're not so
condemning to people.
Oh, they're cool. So I pull the panty
who's up and kind of, you know, get it
so one leg shiny, I'd walk by him.
I just to see if somebody's saying anything.
So what happened one night is I walking,
I'm handing back to the hotel.
I see this guy standing on the corner right in front of my
hotel, and I get up and I stand in my
heart's going a thousand miles of now. Remember, I told you
a fetish, you're on a drug.
Right. And you are just going in a
saying, so I know my heart in my head, I thought,
I wonder if this guy would think this looks
because I remember look at him.
I said, hey, are you gay?
And he goes, yeah.
I said, look, I'm a straight guy.
I said, but I want to show you something.
I want you, if you would think this is a turn on.
He goes, okay, so we walk towards hotel.
They're building a parking lot and what his garage is.
So we walk in there.
I said, I want to show you this.
Now, he doesn't know me.
So I can tell when I turned around.
He's kind of nervous.
I said, look, I'm going to step over here, which is through the little door.
I'm going to put some on once you tell me what you think.
So I walk over there.
I go on the door, I pull the panting ears up, and I walk back.
He's sitting at door like he's raised the whole ass because he doesn't know me.
And I said, well, what do you think about this?
And he looks out and he sees my leg shiny.
He goes, I said, to a gay guy would this turn you on?
And I remember thinking, I am standing in front of the guy.
And I don't care.
He goes, oh, when he comes up, he gets down his knee and he rubs his hand up and down my cat.
He goes, oh, my gosh, that feels great.
I said, would something like this turn you on?
And he's like, yeah, he starts going his hand up my thigh
and starts going to my shorts
and at that point I was like
my first like no no no
I did you like it and we ended it there
but I kept thinking
about it so much
so I really wanted to
tap into that that spoke off
the actual of Paneos this is all because
of Pantio so then I started
with the cam really getting into the cam
and I love getting on Skype
or Paltalk and showing my
legs off and
and really what I like to
is I really want to play the part of the girl.
When I put pantos on, I don't want to just be a guy in pantos and shorts.
I want to wear the skirt and heels.
So when I started posing and I realized that these are all guys,
I just, it really started turning me on.
I mean, I would love to find a woman.
Like if you said, hey, let's get on Camo and see your legs,
I would be through the sky.
Oh, my God, a woman's going to see me in pantos.
It's not going to happen that much.
So the think of the guy's going to look at me and that all of a sudden I thought,
this girl part of me, I can turn a guy on like girls due to me, really amped it up.
So when I get online, I don't just stand there.
All the things that I fantasized when I was in my teens about a woman sit with her legs crossed her,
laying on the ground sliding one leg of all these poses I jacked off with my whole life.
I'm doing all this.
Oh, interesting.
Oh, look, I'll get on Kim and I've had guys go, I can't believe the way you move.
you are so erotic and I'm saying this is easy because I'm doing everything I fantasized my whole
I jacked off a million times with these thoughts right that's smart one right because one guy said
I remember you interview he said look my mind we create scenarios in our head when we have our
fetish and he said you know I see a neighbor and I've already got a story in my head what I've done
with her well I'm the same way we all do so when a guy's watching me I'm I'm picturing him
standing there. Now, I'm so
involved about what he'll say he sees me.
So then once I got comfortable with that,
then FetLife came
and
although that's a lot of cross-stressers, I'm not a
big cross-stressor, we're all a family
so we get to know each other, and there are some
a lot of things. I see a lot of Cox
and Panyho's pictures that really termination.
So then came to meeting somebody.
And so when I say, I took it further.
Yeah. I
did, so the Atlanta
would have been the first one got comfortable with God,
But I always think about Atlanta, like, I wasn't ready for it then, but I'm ready for it now.
So I met a guy on Fet Life, and I said, hey, you know, would you like to meet?
You know, here's what I like to do.
I want to play the part of the girl.
And I want to make sure, are you a leg lover?
Do you love Panias?
Or is it just a kink?
Because the kink will take in a lot of different directions.
And I wanted somebody who would be like me.
Like, if I walked in front of her girl and she did all that to me, I would be off the charts.
I'd be exploding off the walls.
And so we met.
we talked at a location to get to know each other and um it was probably one of the most erotic
nights of my whole life ever i mean we went to a hotel we went to a hotel and we got a room
and i was shaking my hands were shaking and i said look i'm going to the bath i'm going to
and i'm going to change and you know he likes to wear pantyose too so i said look if i'm going to
with the guy, I got to see you in panty.
I don't want you just to be naked.
I just remember walking out of the bathroom.
Look, like I say, when I see me in a skirt in pinnios, it sounds weird, but I think I look
really hot.
I mean, I definitely have my mom's legs, and I think they look fantastic.
So I put that skirt on.
Right.
I know that's weird, but it is real years.
I'm sure times of other guys can relate that are into the same thing.
So when I walked out and he was sitting on the bed and when he saw me, I'll never remember, forget
his face he was like I do when I see a woman he was so turned on to be such a leg in panos
lover and I remember sitting up on the credenza and I softly crossed my legs very soon I mean
everything you see a woman do and he his eyes were just immense so I walk around I laid on
the bed I'm like don't touch me I just want to tease you and I slid my legs up and down and
just were and I can see the bulge in his pants and what is so erotic to me
is the thought of a woman putting her heels in my crotch
and kind of pushing down a little bit, that dominant is so incredible.
So I did it to him.
He was so hard, and I put my foot in his crotch,
and he was so hard,
and to feel his cock underneath my heels.
So we played tonight,
but to finish it off, what was so erotic is,
I had a wraparound skirt,
and I laid on the bed,
and we even took pictures and filmed this.
So if anybody on Fet Life,
their pictures are there.
Oh, really?
Maybe you'll give the little shout out to where they could go and actually see it at the end.
Go on.
Sure.
So I just remember him being so nervous and he was so gentle.
And I remember laying on the bed and he's looking at my legs and he's sliding his hand up.
And I said, you know, because at this point I really hadn't shown my cock.
And I said, look, you know, and he's just so tenderly slide his hand up and down my legs.
I was in cloud and I can't tell you how erotic this was.
And then finally, I'm just, my legs are glistening, and he's just, I said, look, if you want to, you know, slide your hands up and reveal what you really want to see.
And he slowly is going higher this, the wrap-round skirt starting to open.
And I remember I'm taking his hands, opening up the wrap-round skirt from my cock.
And this look of his eyes was, wow, there it is.
And I look down and I see it.
And he takes his finger and he runs it up my ball sack, right up.
the center of my shaft.
This is his pointer finger.
He gets to my head, then he takes his thumb, and he then takes his finger and his thumb
and out traces the outside of my cock, and it does it again.
And it's just so, and I was leaking.
I was leaking so much pre-com.
I look like, look like an oil rig, dribbin oil.
I mean, it was everywhere.
And he was just softly stroking.
And it was just the most amazing thing ever.
It was so erotic.
So we finished off and I think about that night, but then I am really, really attracted to a cock and panty hose.
It's not just you said you see yourself, maybe your face.
No, I mean, when I see a guy in pantos, I mean, the face and everything kind of gets in the way because I don't, men just don't turn me on.
But when I'm aroused, I see it.
It's just, it's like an opposite.
So it's like, ooh, it turns me out because it's opposite of what I like.
And just the way a cock hangs and stuff like that when it's like almost hard, but not.
not in the panty hose right I just I have to just say though yeah no but I just have to say that I hear
it so much my podcast like I'm not attracted to men but if you're attracted to dicks like even if
they're in panty hose not in panty hose in your mouth not in your mouth next to you under your
leg between your feet like if you like that is a man that's not do you know what I mean so that is
but I feel like some people just can't sort of say that sentence for some reason like you know you
can't be like yeah I'm attracted to men not I don't want to I don't like their faces but I
like they're cocks like it is a man you are attracted to men you're attracted to
well dick's like that way I mean I mean I mean I mean it's semantics but I just find it
interesting that so many quote unquote straight guys you know do a lot of things that are
not straight but can't cop to the fact that they're maybe not a hundred percent straight like
it's like a thing I don't know and you know yeah well when I think of see to me a sex
act it's not being attracted to men it's just an act
because I've never walked by any guy
and like when I see one of the lights
because you can't see their dicks.
Well, no,
well, okay, put it in,
let me ask you this, wait.
If you, if guys were walking, no, stop.
If guys were walking around the street
in panty hose with no shirts,
and you saw their dick,
like you would get turned on by that.
That's no different than getting turned on
by the woman wearing a tight shirt
and seeing her big tits
if that's what you're into.
It is a man.
Okay, then I'll agree with that.
That's true.
but I will say it's like if I go to the restroom
we're all at the urinal I don't want to see your deck
I don't want to see it it's only
because here's the thing like I told you
Paneos is not a gateway
gateway means you start somewhere and you finish
somewhere else and you kind of leave where you work
that's why I use the analogy of an axle
all these things I'm telling you
if I have a bicycle when I take the axle out
the wheel falls apart so if I
So there's a it has to be right
The dick is not interesting
Yeah anything I've mentioned you may
wearing a skirt, everything I made.
If I remove pantos, everything I told you is done.
It's over.
There's nothing.
It's nothing.
Right.
Other than I like pretty legs.
Right.
So then I really got very curious.
I want to.
I've seen a bunch of pictures of cocks and pantos.
I got extremely curious.
I want to feel it.
So maybe I am.
Like you say, you say I am straight, but I do, I guess I like a cock.
I'll just admit it.
I like a cock as long as done the pantos.
So I wanted to touch one.
I want to feel it.
So I ran across another guy in Fet Live, got comfortable.
So we met at the hotel.
And so finally he, you know, we played around.
And then when he took his skirt off and I saw that talk,
I was like, it's so erotic to me.
And so, you know, he sat down and I just,
remember I told you with Ms. Taylor?
I just wanted to lay on her thighs and just feel it.
Well, I did.
laid on his thighs.
I'm just looking.
First, I just wanted to look.
And my hand was shaking.
I remember taking my hand, and when I ran it down his shaft and felt it underneath the panty hose,
it was more erotic than I thought it would be.
Right.
It felt amazing.
It looked.
And so I did.
I rub my cheeks on it.
I got real close to it.
I didn't want to put it in my mouth.
I don't really have a desire to put it in my mouth.
I just said I did run my tongue down the shaft.
I kissed it.
I'm sorry.
And then what's really herodic is we both rub our cocks together under panty hose, like my cock on his.
And it was something about what nylon does.
If a guy's not sure, do you want to try something?
Take your hand and just jack yourself off.
It feels great.
But you put pantyos on and you rub your cock on something.
The nylon tickles or does something.
It is an amazing feeling when something rubs.
across your cock and it's under like very sheer nylon.
I wonder if like a guy who's listening to this who's completely straight that never,
you know,
had a desire for panty hose.
If he went out and just tried it because he's like a horny guy and is like try anything
once,
you know that kind of guy,
which is a lot of people,
right?
Went out and got like whether that would be a turn on or you have to have that sort
of thing in you that likes panty hose.
somebody,
one of my listeners,
please go out someone who's not into pantyhose.
Go get a pair of panties and try a panios and try.
and try what you just said and let me know if it's a turner.
Because I bet you maybe it is.
You know what I mean?
And a lot of guys just don't have never tapped into that.
Well, I think most guys are a little, they feel funny doing anything feminine.
I would have, I'd be stunned.
I think every guy straight or whatever.
I think every guy at some point has tried something on other wife's or girlfriends
in that I right, whether it's panties.
You did?
See what it felt like.
Yes.
I think they slipped them on one time.
And there's no way in hell they're going to admit it to anybody.
But I can't imagine, because we love soft things on us, and we see you women, you see where there's got to be a curiosity.
I'll tell you're something fun you want to do.
I love putting pantyos on and get, I found like one in my oldest pair of jeans I've ever had way too short, small.
And to put them on and feel the tight jeans so tight, but it slips right on like silk.
It just sliding.
You feel it's so restricted and tight, but it slides on because the pantyos have it slide on like,
like nothing and when you zip it up and it's all tight but just slipping around in there it feel yada figured out how to do that i ran into some guys who were scuba diving in some springs and the guy had pantingos on it freaked me out and i i even said your your scoobie goes it gets your scuba suit on if you're full scuba suit
you slide your scuba pants on takes an hour to put them on and says the panty as they slide right on in two seconds right and that's where i got the idea of my jeans so so yeah i'm i'm okay with
fact that a cock and panties turns me on.
When I met with that guy, I loved it.
So that's when I said it took me further.
It's just one of the spokes.
Like I say everything.
You know, you're like a really good explainer because you really do like, you know,
I might say like, oh, you're into text, but like the way you really break it down and
the way you really, like I said, explain it in the way that you do, which is good.
It really helps me to understand it and see it.
from the way that you're telling it.
You know, like I'm not you, so I don't know, right?
So I could just assume these things.
I'm not no professional, so I just throw shit out there.
You know what I mean?
So it's interesting to hear your point because, like I said, you do really know how to pick
it apart and you're a very good explainer.
A lot of people aren't.
So, and I think that, you know, people will really be able to relate to a lot of what you're
saying because of how you're explaining it, you know, and you're really pinpointing things
in a way that I think maybe somebody else couldn't express, right?
the same way, but it's what they're feeling, right?
Right.
I mean, what I would love to do is, you know, I see these couples of Fet Life.
There's a couple I ask if I tell them if you're out there.
Bean Townhose, they are the best.
He dresses completely, she dresses completely, she's got one of the most beautiful
legs I've ever seen.
And I wish my wife and I could do what I see.
They're dressed up.
They take pictures.
She will, like, slide her heels on his cock and then take her heels off.
and slide it on this car.
That's another, I don't know if I mentioned, but somebody's supposed one thing that's a very big
turn on to me is the whole little power play, a little dominant, I guess.
Right, right.
And so somebody asked me, when I said, you know, because I'll go to the bookstore,
I told you the bookstore and that the girl's feed me them.
I tell them what I like.
And I would be the side of a woman putting her heel in a man's crotch is just so incredibly
around, not the ones where they like smash it into oblivion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know people are, but just.
No, but more subtle.
All your stuff is seems very.
subtle even all like even when you meet with the guys you know it's never never goes to a place of
very hardcore right I mean you didn't like it's all subtle and very well here's why I mean I
women like if I ever had a woman dominate me I want her dressed beautifully I love the
some guys like the hot leather and all that not me I like the banker look the hot mom look
up. I love the elegant dress. And then when I, like if a woman's in like a business suit,
if she was going to dominate me to see her so beautifully dress her hair and these gorgeous
legs and just upper class and then she's going to like lay me on the ground and like step on my
dick. It was like, that is so hot. So the girl that sort of asked me why. I said, here's,
here's the way I see it. To me, Ledger's so beautiful, so feminine, so delicate, so innocent.
And then you see these heels. And to me, heels are so dominant. And I said,
It's kind of like a rose.
The rose pedal is so beautiful.
You mean, women like rose, it's a beautiful pedal.
You know, okay, it's beautiful.
But then you have these thorns.
Right.
It'll get you if you don't look out.
So to me, it's kind of the same thing.
The legs are like the beautiful pedal, so innocent and beautiful.
And then the thorns are like the heel so powerful and so dominant.
So there's a lot of ways you can play spoke.
These are all different spokes.
Well, let me get, can you get back to what you were just saying about fat life?
Because we're going to wrap it up.
And I want people to be able to log.
get into Fat Life if they want and see that video. You said you'd give a shout out. Also, you were just
talking about a couple who, like, is, you, you find really super hot in what they do. I forget the
name. Can you spell that out so people could maybe find them or also find your video that you said
you wanted to give a shout out? Sure. Their name is Beantown Hose. Like, like, you think, what's the
nickname for Boston? Beantown. Okay, so Beantown H-O-S-E. H-O-S-E, yep. Yep. Okay.
They just use the word hoes.
Yeah, they are.
But no, get ready.
Get ready.
Get ready.
Beantown hose.
She's got the most beautiful legs either.
Because you know what a pair of legs is?
The beautiful hourglass shape, the knees, all that.
She's got beautiful hourglass shape to her legs.
They're not bow-legged looking.
Right.
Okay, but wait.
And now where could people find that video that you said was so hot that?
I mean, if you don't, listen, if you don't want to share that, I totally understand.
That's up to you.
Oh, well, I've got still pictures of it.
and at some point I like to put the whole video
but if you want to I guess look me up
and see the picture because I've been with a couple guys
those were the two best
I don't want you to out yourself though
so I'm assuming you're fucking smart
and on FetLife you don't have any face pictures
or anything that someone could recognize you
okay great okay
last thing I want is like you know
some kind of problem here so why don't you let people
know your name on Fet Life so they could see your still shots
and stuff and maybe even communicate with you
if they want to reach out to you
sure
It's I N-G-G-S-2.
I-N-G-S the number two.
Yes.
Okay.
And that's all one word on F-L-L-L-L-E-E-E-E.
Yes.
I've used that name,
screen name for years.
And F-E-L-I-F-E dot com,
if people want to know,
so that they could go and see your stuff.
I would definitely like, I mean,
you know, we just started tipping into, like,
getting into, you know, your specific things that you've done. I'm sure people would love to hear more
of your stories. You know, I would definitely have you back on again and, you know, and get more
information from you. Like, because normally I don't, I do like to go much more personal with somebody,
but you were so, like I said, such a good explainer and talking about like stuff in general that I
think was very interesting to people because I have so, I have a very large panty hose audience now because
of the couple podcasts that I put out.
So I think people are going to really, you know,
really enjoy what you talked about generally.
But I think towards the end,
when you got really personal
and started telling your stories,
I think people are going to be really into that
and probably want more.
We have to wrap this podcast up
because it's already, we're past over an hour,
but, you know, I'd love to get more of those at some point
so we could do a part two.
Sure, but you know, quickly,
the reason I did that is because I've had this fetish
for so long,
And I've always wanted to explain to people why.
I mean, why we guys have this.
So it's easy to tell stories.
I'd love to tell stories, but I just wanted somebody and people to understand
what it is with us guys running around could be any fetish.
But with this particular one, so to be able to come on, it was awesome,
be able to kind of give you the background, anybody listening,
because I hear people say, what is a fetish?
I just want them to understand how it makes us feel and just the psychology of it.
And that was really fun for me to tell you.
tell you. No, and it was fun for me because I'm always trying to figure it out. And it's hard for
me to figure it out because I'm a woman, A, I don't have a panty hose fetish, right? So to hear from
somebody like you who really has it, who, and who also is, you know, very passionate about not only
panty hose, but about, you know, the whole psychology behind it, right? The reason why you know
this stuff is because you're into that. To be able to allow you, I mean, I just had to sit back and
allow you to do your thing and explain it, I think, was really interesting. Typically, I don't
allow for that on my show.
It's very different, but I was like,
why not? And I, like I said, you did
a really good job doing it. I think people
will enjoy it. Thank you
so much for calling in. I learned
a lot.
I'll tell you, Kathy, what you need to do.
Forget the Haynes and all that.
I heard people tell you, quickly, if you ever
saw it. Yeah. Yeah.
Cecil Bel-Raphael's, Pretty
Polly's, Omar's,
Wilford, I promise you.
Oh, Wilford, yeah. Wolfford, I know.
but not for anything, right?
Yeah.
Oh, they're going to blow your mind.
Okay, those are your Panyos recommendations.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay, John Smith, thank you so much for calling in.
Let's do a part two sometime and we'll get some more stories from you.
Okay, and so if anyone wants to find you, I feel like there's going to be a lot of guys
that are going to want to maybe chat with you, go to Fat Life.
Or you could email me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com and I'll send maybe people
over to you.
I don't know if you're open to that.
I won't give them your email or anything, but I could make connections.
that way I do that for a lot of my guests.
Well, if you want to throw the email, it's a private email.
It's at Yahoo email.
Nobody's going to see it but me, so it's a big deal.
Oh, okay, so I could always forward that over to them too.
Or do you want to give it right now?
It's actually really easier for them to just contact you directly.
Sure.
It's the same as Ings 2.
It's just at yahoo.com.
So I N-G-G-G-S-2 at Yahoo.com.
I-N-G-G-S-2 at Yahoo.
You could contact Jim.
John Smith, Jim, John doesn't
fucking matter, fake name.
John Smith there.
You could go see his fat life.
And anyway, thanks so much for calling you.
I look forward to talking to you again.
Thank you.
Thanks, John.
Bye.
Okay, I just want to tell you before you go
that my book,
it's called Strictly anonymous confession,
Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers,
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It's still not going to be out until August 25th.
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There's a cuck queen story.
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I don't really like that kind of vibe, right?
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You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around.
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It's available in eback format, paperback format.
And finally, the audiobook is available.
coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or
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there's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay,
I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content
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the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.
