Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 331 - Jordan's Wife Hooked up with his Female Cousin and his Aunts

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

Jordan's wife hooked up with his female cousin and two of his aunts. When, where and how did she start hooking up with all of his relatives? Did they all know, that he knew, that she was hooking up with them? Did he ever fool around with them too? Tune in to find out plus hear all about what exactly they did with each other when they all hooked up and hear all about his pantyhose fetish and how it led to him secretly cross dressing and hooking up with guys behind her back, who she was cheating on him with behind his back and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the strictly anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be in the show, this is a call and advice show where I talk to total strangers about all kinds of things. Look through the topics or the titles. You'll see the topics. I mean, most of the time I'm talking to people about their naughty secret lives. people call in the show to talk about that because I keep everybody anonymous. I don't even know who they are. I also change everyone's voices.

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But he's got a really fucking interesting story. I bumped him up. I have so many episodes taped. I feel sorry for people that taped with me like months ago. I still haven't aired them. But I bumped him up because his story was like so fascinating. I'm like, I'm going to air your shit ASAP because his story involves, like, there was a lot of stuff about him that happens towards the end, like the fact that he likes to cross-dress

and all this stuff stemmed. like a Pantio's fetish. Now he kind of hooks up with guys. But we spent a lot of the time talking about all the shit that his ex-wife did while they were together, which is pretty hardcore. Like, there are aunts and cousins involved. Like, you have to hear the whole story. I mean, towards the end, when he started to tell me his stuff and it seems so similar to his wife stuff, I'm like, are you full of shit? Like, I don't even know because it was like, you'll see there's like some connections kind of to like the way both of them were because his wife was, uh, who'd up with girls a lot. And like I said, the story involves aunts and cousins and bathrooms and cars. And then

his story involves other guys and cars. But that's all I'm going to tell you. There'll be more of a description in the description, right? But I'm just going to be right back on with him, whatever his name is. And you're going to hear it for yourself. Let me know if you think he's full of shit. I don't think he is. But this story is like, I would say you just can't make this shit up. Or maybe you can. I don't know. Let me tell me what you think. Anyway, I'll be right back on with him and his interesting story. How are you today? Good.

Hi. Who are you? I'm good. I was a little excited to be talking to you because your email was super interesting. You have a lot of like crazy stories. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. I mean, where do we start? Do you want to start like from the beginning? Like how you did in your email? Like, you know, I don't know where do you want to start from? Because this is like you have so much good stuff to talk about. Yeah, I don't know. I was doing about that. So I'm like, where do I start?

I was married for 23 years to my wife. I'm not now in the divorce, but it started to, you know, I started having sex at a very young age. I think I was like 10. 10? What grade is 10? Is that sex or rape? No, it was actually sex with girls in school. But what grade is 10? 10, I think I was in third, I think fourth grade, fourth or fifth grade. That's not sex.

That's like experimental. Like, I don't know. Was you, you were penetrating girls in fourth grade? Yes. Dick inside them and they were like having orgasms? Like, I don't know if this is possible. I don't know if they're having orgasms, but I knew a much, I knew about sex enough to know what I was doing. And, you know, you weren't ingestulating.

Well, they were more experienced than me because they were the ones we're just sitting in class, and it was just a group of girls that were just talking about sex, and they're like, you know what we're talking about? And I just looked at them, I'm like, yeah, I do. And one of them was like, oh, well, let me show you. You know, we're in like the kids misbehaved kids class. Yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. I was one of those.

So we're always left alone, and they're already way more experience for me, and there were 13 or 14 or 14. at that time and I was, you know, 10. And they're like, oh, I'll have a show to you. And she just pulled down my pants and just gave me a blowjob in the class, you know? And where was the teacher? You guys were just alone in there? We were just alone. It was just me and three or four girls. There were like the violent

kids in school. Yeah, yeah. We just left alone. Right, the bad scenes. Yeah. And I learned from that, I'm like, oh, okay, this is what it is, you know? And I was always intelligent as a kid, and I just picked stuff up. Right. I'm just watching TV and talking to adults. And so I was already kind of sex craves at that early age, you know? Yeah. I mean, that's really, really young to be like, like sort of sexualizing yourself, right? I mean, the girls that were older, 13 or 14, right? They're

like maybe eighth grade at that point, right? And maybe that's when you're coming into your own and like girls might be start acting out sexually at that age. But for you to, be having experiences at 10, I think, is a little odd. I don't know. Don't you? I don't know. I mean, you know, I didn't think anything. I knew I was young.

Yeah. And by the time I was 14, I was already like full-blown experience, like, full-blown having sex with adult women. Right. At that time already, you know, it was like I was going into clubs just paying the bouncer to let me into my clubs. And every time I went in and I was. I was talking to women and I was like, well, how old I?

You know, I was right. I was 21, but I was like 14 or 15 now. Yeah. So half these women had no idea that I was just a kid, you know, and I was already full-blown, you know. I knew how to have FedEx. I knew everything already at that age. Right.

And we're, I mean, like, you must have had mad game to be picking up like older women in their 20s at 14. I mean, like, what was your, what was your deal? Like, you know? I mean, how did you get them into bed? Were you very good looking? Were you, like, confident and cocky? I'm just, I was always confident as I'm still even now as, you know, by my 40s, you know,

I have girls that are in their 20s that I approach me just because I was like, oh, just have so much confidence. You know, like, the way you watch, because probably that's perfect. I was always, I always had a game. I always had a game. Right. You know, like, I mean, I don't like to lack confidence in work or with relationships or anything like that.

I hate the drag, you know, but I'm good looking, you know, I have a big penis and I just have that. I was right. Yeah, well, listen, I think if you know, I think if you know you're carrying around a big dick, right, and you're good looking, right? And you were, you know, you felt comfortable with yourself sexually because you were acting out sexually like at a very young age, right? So you're just going to exude that, right? And I think a lot of women, especially younger women, right, in their 20s. I mean, when you were like 14, these girls were in their 20s, they're looking for bad boys. You know, that's what we all like in our 20s.

You don't like the nice guys, right? We just like, you know. So when you smell a guy like that from a mile away, you get like horny, right? And then you had a big dick. So it probably made them come back for more. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what. Yeah.

Even when I started having marital problems with my life, she's always like, because you're an asshole, but you'll get some more life because you have a big dick. You know, and you're going to be used by women because you have that big dick. She's like, but if there's a relationship, like, you're never going to be with anyone. Like, you know, you won't have a lasting relationship. And even now, as old as I am, I always sell women. And well, look, I don't date. And they look at me kind of funny.

They're like, you don't date. Like, no, I don't date. This is what I look for in a relationship. Or if you want to go up, I'm all for hooking up, you know. And with the majority of women, I'm like, yeah, that's cool. That's fine. I'm down with that. But let me ask you this, because you started out, obviously, because you were married for 23 years.

You started out as like a quote unquote relationship guy. I get that maybe you're not now. But like what, let's keep staying back to where you were in the beginning, though, because there's, like, like, I mean, there's stuff that involves your aunts and parties and bathrooms and cousins and shit, right? It's like pretty hardcore, right? So I want to get to that stuff. And that's like, I mean, is that happening before your wife, after your wife, during your wife?

No, that was. So I was, I got, I think I had my first daughter. I was 19. Right. Oh, right. It was with your wife, right? Uh-huh. With my wife.

You were how old with your, when you had her daughter? 19. Okay. And so this is the woman you married her because you got pregnant. Is that why you guys got married too young? Yeah, that's exactly. She was 17, 18, and I was getting rid of the military, and I'm like, all right, you know, she's not pregnant. And I'm like, okay, you know, well, you know, I'll have a family.

I'm all for it. And I waited a year until I married her. My daughter was one when I finally got married. And we're already, you know, I was having sex with her. She was 15. I was like 16 or 17 with my way. You know, that's how long ago, you know, we've been together. And so, you know, you become, you're married now and you have sex.

And we always have sex, like, all the time, you know. And one day we're just having sex and, you know, you're just talking. And she's like, what do you like like like life? Like, well, you know, we've been having sex for a while so that you really are kind of reserved. Like, what turns you on? you know and I'm like you know I was embarrassed to tell her oh well you know what I like you know women in tangos and high deals you know that's really sexy even at that younger age you know yeah she's like oh okay I could do that for you but she started with that you know she'd wear like once in a while and all that and all that and then that turned into a lot of white stem they're uncomfortable like you know it's kind of weird and stuff and she's like why don't you wear them oh she wanted to be you know You were to wear them, right? I remember this from that.

You know? I'm like, well, why don't you wear them? And I'm like, no, I'm not really into that, you know, which I did like them, but, and I've never did it. I'm like, no, I'm not really into that, you know. It's the only gay guys do that kind of shit, you know? Mm-hmm. And she's like, well, you're not gay, right? I'm like, no.

She's like, well, then it's not gay. You know, and I'm like, all right, forget what I like. What do you like? You know? And she's like, oh, well, I always wanted to be with them. really and this and that and I'm like all right I'm cool with that you know and she's like I already know who I want and I'm like you already know what you want so you're thinking about this or I'll be obviously yeah and she's like yeah she's like well I'm not going to tell you but she's like I'm

going to start looking at you know right well who is this lady wait but let me ask you I know okay but wait so was the was it a specific like when she was saying I know who it is. What she's saying it was actually a specific person or she just had a type and then it turned out that your cousin was her type? No, she was into your cousin from day one is what she was. She was through. She had a bad, my cousin had a bad reputation as just being a whore. Oh. All these bad scenes running around. Yeah. So she was got a bad reputation and she's like, oh, well, I know who, you know. Yeah. And she would agree with me at first. you know, a month later, we get together, like, you know, birthday party, you know,

someone's birthday party or something at a, at a restaurant, banquet, all this thing. Yeah. And who showed up? My cousin. Uh-huh. And, you know, now, you know, she's dressed in her little dress and heels and, you know, like, super-hared out. And I see my wife, like, buying her off, like, hardcore, you know?

Yeah. And, um, I see my probably, you know, like, sheard. and walks to the bathroom. Five, six minutes later, my wife gets up and walks for the bathroom. Okay, I'm not thinking anything. I'm like, finally, I'm like, man, it's been 20 minutes. Let's take you so long. Oh, my God, yeah.

My cousin comes back. Two minutes later, my wife comes back. Still not thinking anything of it. Yeah. Then now, you know, a little while goes back. The cousin goes to the bathroom again. My wife follows us to the bathroom. Well, this went on a whole night.

And finally, while I was sitting there, I'm like, that's who it is she's in the bathroom doing something with her you know and i'm like okay now you know know i'm terrified i'm like oh my god she's gonna tell or something so we're whatever we get at home and we're just about to have sex you know and she's like it's like i have something to tell you and i'm like what and she pulled her underwear out of her purse she pulled your cousin's underwear out out. My cousin's underwear. Oh, my God. This is like a porn. It sounds like a porn.

Yeah. I'm like, wait a minute. What? She's like, these are what's your name's underwear. Yeah. She's like, I was fucking her the whole night in the bathroom. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. I'm not going to have I was a little upset, you know? Uh-huh. I'm like, you got to be kidding with all my

you know, my family's all around her. I'm like, how would if she wouldn't have come someone that, you know, you try something on her and everything. She's like, I think it was the other way around. She was like, we're in the bathroom, and she started with her. She's like, I took her in the saw. She was every time you started to get up.

She was out when we were going to the stall show and they were having sex. Yeah. You know? And I'm like, you don't, she's like, I'm like, you're scared someone who's going to catch you guys. And she's like, no, they went into the handicap stall. And when someone walked in, one of them stood up on the toilet, they suddenly she won't want to a seat. Oh, my God.

And what did they do? And was this the first time that both of them were with a girl or like, maybe your cousin had got around? The cousin was with girls. I heard about the cousin being with women before. But my wife, according to her, this was her first time. Right. So this was her first time. She goes in and she said that the cousin pulled her into the stall and, like, started going down on her or something.

Like, what happened? Uh-huh. The cousin pulled her into the store. And, you know, you're so good looking. You're a fucking hot, this and that. And, you know, and she just started cooking her. Right. And stuff like that.

And she just goes up there and having sex in the bathroom, you know, eating each other's poises and all this crazy stuff, you know, like just sitting on the toilet, you know, eating her ass. And the COVID was kind of making her do everything. And I'm like, did she don't have been serious? She's like, no. She's like, I was doing everything to her. Oh, interesting.

So she's like, you know, she put me out of my knees. I ate her pussy. I ate her ass, all this stuff. You know, every time we went in the bathroom, she goes, she just pulled up her dress. She goes, and I was eating her pussy and all this crazy spouse. And I'm like, oh, my God. And then after that, I'm like, oh, well, like, I want to do it again with her, you know? Mm-hmm.

And she had her number, and she just started calling her, and they were going on dates. Right. Like, legit dates, you know, like, the funny thing was, she's like, I'm going to go out with her. She's like, if you don't want to come with, I'm like, no, I feel that's weird, you know. Yeah, I was wondering if anything happened because it's your cousin, right? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, it's kind of weird, you know. I don't even know if I want her to know that I know.

Right, that's what I was also wondering. Did she ever find out that you knew? Did she know that you knew? Or was it, did she think that you didn't know? My wife, my she told me. She's like, and she's like, and he's okay with it. She's like, he didn't say anything. a lot of me.

But, well, she would go, you know, remember her first date with her like after that happened. It was like a week or two two after that, and, you know, she went and she bought herself

a dress and bought heels for herself. And I remember her going to the death of and her shaving herself. And I remember she, like, she shaved her assholes. She had her asses her asses of her. And she, yeah, it was crazy. And she was getting ready and she went out with her

and they went out to dinner. And she was like that. were in the car, they parked somewhere, and they had sex from the car, and all these crazy shit. And then finally, I'm assuming that the cousin finally serviced her, too. It wasn't just her doing stuff for the cousin, right? No,

it was just her doing stuff to the cousin. I'm like, you're not letting her do anything. She's still like, besides, you know, feeling her fits, and she's like just rubbing me around a little bit, she's like, no, she said it was always me doing stuff to her. Oh, interesting. She was like a dom. She was a dumb, and like your girl was

like this up. That's exactly what was happening. And that's what it was. She's like, she kind of, like, you know, makes me do all this stuff to her. She's like, and I'm like, in your old feeling, she was like, oh, yeah, I love it. Right. She liked being that part. Right.

Because my wife is very dominant outside, you know, business-wise. Right. She's very smart. Beautiful, beautiful. Like, one of the most prettiest women I ever seen in my life. Right. The cousin, too. There's a beautiful son.

You know, like two beautiful women. Yeah. So she was very dominant in life, but when it came to sex, even with me, she was always like, you know, very submissive. Yeah, I hear that a lot that it flips. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what the cousin was doing.

I think just using her basically for sex. But, I mean, your girl was too, right? I mean, your girl liked the sex as well. exactly the way it was. They were kind of like a perfect match. How long did they hook up for? Three or four years. Really? Just off and on all the time, like

a couple times a year? It was and then, you know, finally my wife's like, I'm just going to start bringing him around so all three of us would hang out. And? So we'd go to the club then. They're looking up in front of me at the club, you know, like, who's known, you know,

kids and whatever and even when we would go out they would take each other to the bathroom and I'm standing there and they're like oh we're just going to go to the bathroom and they were going to the bathroom that's like that was their place that's how it all started

yeah yeah that was the thing it was even in the bathroom or in the car you know right and then finally they just started in front of me in the car and then we said to hotel rooms we would go on vacation so we'd come with us

on vacation. You know, we'd go to Vegas and stuff like that and she'll come with. Like, it was still going to her. They had a relationship, like a whole world relationship. Well, it was kind of like you guys were, like, like, were maybe polyamorous where like, you know, you had a third person in your relationship. I mean, you didn't have a relationship with your cousin. Did you ever fill around with your cousin?

No, never. Okay, but you watched them. I watched them, yeah. Uh-huh. So like your cousin was having sex in front of you with your wife. All the time. Exactly. All the time.

And it was even my wife, I'm like, do you want to move in with us? And I'm like, no, no, she's not going to move in with us. My whole family knows that. All three don't get together, you know. Did anyone catch wind of what was going on? My aunt is. Oh, does this, is this where your aunt comes into the part picture?

That's where the hand comes into it. My aunt is. Wait, wait, but wait, let's not move on from the cousin just yet. With the cousin, right? Like, now, when you would be watching them having sex, like, would you just jerk off? Would you fuck your wife and not touch her? Like, I mean, how involved did you get? Like, no, I would literally just sit there and watch.

I wouldn't even jerk off. You didn't even jerk off. You just would sit there and watch, right? Okay. How would you sit there to watch? Now, did your cousin have a partner at the time that she was, you know, sort of cheating on behind their back? Or was she just always sort of single and having fun? No.

she had a kid of boyfriend. So she... She was shooting her boyfriend, yeah. So she had a boyfriend that had... This is why they were always doing it in, like, cars and stuff. Yeah. Right.

So... She had a boyfriend. And her boyfriend had no idea. No, no way. No, nothing. It's interesting that your wife was the one that was more open. You know, I mean, I feel like it's pretty cool of her to have been so straight up, right, from day one.

I guess that's just her personality type. Because, you know, telling your husband that you're sleeping with his cousin is a lot worse than telling your boyfriend you're just fucking another girl you know what I mean like her boyfriend didn't have maybe would have really been into it right but she didn't tell him but yet your wife who was like it was way worse kind of what was going on with her but you know but like she was the one that was honest about it but for sure her boyfriend didn't know 100% even though because I don't know he was kind of very serious I met him a couple times you know like

just like get together and you know like you look like you with a nice guy but very scary and very strong looking and I'm pretty sure you didn't know right okay so now in comes your aunt now somehow your aunt finds out let's start there yeah so you know as I mentioned we're going at a club so we're at a club and wife and her girlfriend I'm just going to go into the bathroom and my aunt my aunt followed them into the bathroom and coffin in the stall. But is your aunt this cousin's mother? No, this aunt is a different

No, no. Okay, right, okay. So this is my aunt, you know, my aunt, the cousin, it's her cousin too. It's her second cousin or something. They're all related. Okay, you're all related. We're all related. Yeah, so

that cousin that's in the stall with your wife is also related to that aunt that comes in. Your aunt comes in and has, and she follows them into the stall and then she how did she catch them she did she knock on the door i mean like what the fuck she no she well i'll go okay so i'll get to that how she ended up knowing she followed into the bathroom didn't see either one of them and she knocked on the stall and she put them in the stall and she knew they were doing something right she was what do you guys yeah she's like

what are you guys doing here and they're like nothing and my aunt's like no no no you guys are doing something she goes, I'm going to tell on you now. Like, I'm going to tell him what you guys were doing. And my wife goes to, the cousin just leave and kicked her out into the stall. And then my aunt came into the stall, and my wife told my aunt, she's like,

he knows what I'm doing. She's like, so you don't need to tell him anything. And then my aunt goes, oh, he knows what I'm doing? She's like, well, what you do to her? You could do to me? And put her later, she goes, she just pushed her on her knees, pulled up her. Wait, wait, who said that?

Who's she when you say she? So the aunt says, said what? The ankles, they kicked the cousin out of the stall. Yeah. And the ankles, sir, you know, my wife's like, he knows what I'm doing. And she's like, oh, well, if he knows what you're doing, so that she could do this thing to me.

Oh, my God. And she pulled up her dress. Uh-huh. Pushed her on her knees and she goes, my cousin. Oh, my God. This is like the porn part two. It is like.

If you were, now, you could eat my pussy. I'm like, you got a shit like I did. I'm like, she's like, I just didn't. She's like, I wanted to do it. How old's your aunt? And how old was your girl at the time? Do you remember? At that time, believe it or not, my aunt told me like if you're older than me.

At that time, my aunt was probably 25 or 26. Okay. My wife was probably 23. Okay, so they're around the same age, but she is your aunt, right? So she says, no, you're going to start doing it to me. So she goes down on your aunt. Oh my God. She goes down on my aunt

and she goes, I loved her. She's like, I did whatever she wanted the same thing. It was the down thing again. Yeah. And the aunt made her, you know, eat her pussy, same thing, eat her ass and, you know, everything. And that's her new, the whole night again. She was in between the cousin and the aunt, the whole night in the bathroom. So wait, did the cousin know about the aunt?

Yeah. So the cousin knew. that she was also going with the aunt too at that point. She came back and told the cousin like, hey, by the way, I just fucked her in the bathroom too. You know, when they came back, the aunt and the cousin got started to get into a fight

over her. Not to, they were literally to decide to the fight. Between themselves, but I do what was going on. You know, and I'm like, hey man, you guys can. I go, what are you guys fighting for? Because then, like, I don't know. And she was going to like this fucking bitch, you know?

She's like, stop bringing this fucking whore around. here, you know. And, but they had it new. She figured, I'm sorry, the cousin knew. It's like, I know what you guys are doing. Right. You know, she didn't say anything, but, yeah, so it was a whole night thing. She was going between both of them.

It was a very thing. I think she just like to use, actually, to be honest with you. Right. She liked to be the sub. She was totally the person. And then she probably loved that her two doms were fighting. And now the doms never got together. Like the cousin and the aunt never hooked up, right?

They were both only with your girl. right? Only with my wife yeah they never hooked up no and so that was my older aunt who's only a year or a year and a half older than me yeah so she told me when we get home now I'm shit in breaks I'm like oh my god what you do why should truly you know I'm like with gratitude with her and I'm sure how everyone we're far and said no no she's like her to anything. So the guy told her nothing. She said, like, the aunt told me

enough to tell her you. You know, I'm like, okay, we're going to run with that. I don't know anything. Right. So the aunt knew my work schedule and would know why I wasn't home and would call between them too.

Right. You know? And my wife would tell her, she was like, oh, she calls and she knows to hang out and, you know, this and that. And I'm like, you know, she knows you're not at home. And she was looking up with her

too long as she was spoken up with us my cousin like going on dates with her you know right and now was at least your aunt servicing her or she was still just servicing your aunt she was just servicing them and i'm like her and i'm like her you know she's like that i think my aunt just stayed with her she said right she was yeah she's like i didn't want them to do anything to me right and i'm like you you know yeah she was all you know she's like i just like having i like some stuff to them or what they're telling her to do. Because I don't want them to really touch me.

Besides kissing them, you know, just like touching what she said. Right. They never did anything, she said. Okay. So, but you did say fucking your aunts, plural. I'm assuming, I know, I can't even believe. Yeah. So, okay, that was the older man.

Yeah. Well, there's a younger aunt that's younger than like a year and a half younger than me, which is the older hand sister, you know. Yeah. The older hand pulled a younger one. I have sex with her. Oh, my. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. I have sex with her. She's like, why don't we both have sex with her? And it's the same thing. We're out at a club, and my wife went to the restroom alone, and a younger aunt followed her in there, took her into the stall, pushed it on on the toilet, and goes, I know what you're doing. You could do now.

You're going to eat my push you now. And she, same thing. And I'm like, what the hell? She was like, I just did it. And it's the same thing she said, and I wanted to do it. And so she started with our younger hen. So she was doing two over the aunts and the cousin. Right.

And they're all at the same club at the same time? We stopped kind of bringing the cousin with us. Right. Because I think, and it was more like only us, not in the club, like on our own personal hand. I think the older had was telling her around when she's there. She didn't like the cousin being around.

She didn't like the cousin, yeah. But she didn't mind her sister. Yeah, she didn't mind me sister. She didn't like a cousin. Covey was really, really hardcore. Like, you know, with men and women, because it was very, very hardcore, very, you know, very slush, very out there, you know.

It didn't hide that she was a slut and shit like that. But the aunt told her don't bring her around. anymore. Right. But we're still hanging out with her on the whole time. It's not with her all. Right. Now, the other aunts, though, were cool with each other, right? Was she ever with them together at the same time or was it always separate? Which, the ants? You both are the ants at the same time. No way. The two sisters? Yeah, I think, honestly, I think the two sisters are doing each other. No way. Yeah. From now, when I look back at it, I'm pretty sure that they're doing each other. That's why

they pulled each other. That's why the owner had pulled the younger one into it. I'm pretty sure they were going to each other. Well, did your girl ever hook up with both of them at the same time? Yeah. She did. Where and when? Yeah.

And how? Again, in clubs, in the bathroom. They both would go in at the same time. They were all going at the same time. Yeah. They were going to go to the rest room. You know, they didn't know I knew. Yeah.

My wife just put that answer. I know I knew. Right. We're going to go to the bathroom. And they'd be gone for an hour, half an hour, hour hour. When she was in the bathroom, she was like just going between both of them. I'm pretty sure they're answering each other. Well, what did she say?

What did your wife say? Was she, did she ever see them hook up with each other? Like, did you ever get in? She goes, no, that they wouldn't. That she goes that they'd all be installed, you know, naked. And she just going between, you know, you know, having sex with them. But she goes, they never touched each other.

But she mentioned it too. She's like, I think they might be doing something to each other. Right. Yeah. I don't know. But now when I look back at it, I'm more as an adult. And I think back to us and I'm like, holy shit, I think they were doing each other. For sure.

I think so. Why were they interested in, like, doing it at the same time and stuff? How long did that go on with the ants? I think, um, a long around two years. Two years? It was always in close. or ever at the house? It was never at the house.

It was either in clubs or they were getting hotels. They were getting hotels. They were getting hotels in the city. Really? Yeah. And, you know, what was funny was because she'd go shopping for them. She'd buy, you know, lingerie for them and dresses for them and heels for them and would give the, I remember we would go to Google to drop off the stuff to their house.

She's like, oh, I'm going to drop this off for them because this is what. I wanted to wear later on. Right. I would literally go to drop off all the stuff that she wanted them to wear for her on their dates. Right. And she would go. Were they attractive too? I mean, I know you said your cousin was very attractive.

Were the aunts attractive? All very good looking. All of a very good looking. Right. Although the whole, my whole really very good looking. But were the aunts married? No. They were single.

No. single yeah they're still single they are yeah so if this only happened I mean she stayed your wife for like 23 years right

and in the beginning all these years of hers with your fucking cousin and your aunts I mean these people don't go anywhere right they stay as a part of your family like does she hook up with them the whole 23 years

or just in the beginning and then it never picked up again just in the beginning and it never picked up again after that I'll tell you later on how she came to terms with what happened but that was only the beginning in our you know, her in her mid-20s, early to mid-20s. You know, she was 23, I was 24, 25, and they had for a year between the younger than me. And the cousin, too, was, I think, a couple of years younger than me, too.

So it wasn't, you know, with the cousins, four or five years, with the aunts, two years. Right. It was all in the, around that same time. Now, you said, oh, I'll tell you later how she come to terms with that. Does it, does, do you want to just go into that now, or do you want to get into what you started to do secretly? No, I'll tell you now. So she was doing all that with them and, you know, we're still having awesome facts. And, you know, she'd bring, those little fun of the thing.

Well, she, like, we go out and she'd bring back her underwear her escrow near. She's like, oh, look, I got their underwear. I got her panty hose, you know. And I know they just bring them back, you know. Yeah, she did that from day one with the cousin. Yeah, yeah, she was going up for a recent week. So she started, I think she started doing more mature and coming in her alone now as a woman. Yeah.

And she started winding down from fucking around. Right. And I'm like, we're talking during sex once. And I'm like, oh, do you know, do you want to find new women? And she was going to look at her own women. Every woman she was trying to look up with someone. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

And you should see good-looking women that she's like, oh, I'm going to pick her up. Oh, fuck her. You know, we'd go to the strip club all the time, you know? Yeah. And then try to get that strippers, you know? Uh-huh. Would she get the strippers a lot of the time?

We used to go to Vegas all the time and she would get strippers. Right. And then would you both do the strippers or she would, like, were you fucking these people too? Or it was just her? It was just her. Honestly, I never touched anyone. Right. I never touched anyone.

It was always her. Was that a rule? Was it a rule between you guys that you didn't? Or you just didn't want to? Or did she not want you? I didn't want to. You didn't want to. Yeah, I didn't want to.

I didn't want to. I wasn't, even though I got off on watching them have sex, I felt weird to touch someone in her. Okay. You know? Mm-hmm. Well, I know, she didn't get sick with her to Vegas. She's, like I said, extremely.

it's like she's Jennifer Lopez and his twin right like is Puerto Rican right so you see it even when we were you know married she walked in the room a whole not to look at her right she's very hot you know very hot you know very you could see that she's very sexual you know yeah so she was very super home you know and she just have sex with them I'd watch you know but so finally one day I'm like there you know I sort of feel I'm not really I don't I'm like, hey, you know, you want you to go on a date or whatever to go on? She's like, honestly, she's like, I'm over that. I'm like, what do you mean you're over that?

She goes, I didn't want to do any of those stuff you forced it into that stuff. What? And, you know, yeah, clearly, you're like, I force you to have sex with women and then on top of that women I knew, women I'm related to. Well, you know, you force me to have sex with you really, a sick fucking mind. you forced me to be a lesbian. I never want him to be a lesbian. Come on.

Where did this? How did she even believe this shit? And totally flipped her shit. She's like, I'm seeking tired of of you pushing me to fuck women. I'm like, I'm not pushing you to fuck women. I'm afraid that it was your idea? Yeah.

And she's like, I'm not doing that anymore. She's like, I don't want to hear about it. You know, I never did anything. And you're both, just forget if I ever mentioned anything or they know what you know. And I'm like, just looking at her, I'm like, man, she's crazy, you know? Yeah. And she totally stopped.

She just stopped. And I'm like, okay. And she's still friends with the cousin, though, like they're friends, like, real friends, you know? Yeah. Hey, what are you doing? The ants hasn't seen them in 10 years probably now, you know? Uh-huh. You know?

But I see my aunts all the time. I see them at least once a week. Right. They still don't know I know They don't know They don't know Are you still married by the way? They'll never know

Am I married? Yeah No Okay How long ago did you How long ago did you guys get divorced? We got officially divorced In 2016

But we've been Separated out and off since like 2010 Okay but did you start Doing your secret stuff While you were with or? or after her? I was still, I always started doing that. Okay, but she didn't know about it, right?

When you say it's secret, it's like secret to her, it's secret to everybody, right? No. It's secret to everyone. Oh, my God. If you see me, you would never, never think, oh, my God, that guy does that. Never, not in a million years. Right. So, and what the secret is, right?

Because now we're going to get into this, is that you started to secretly hook up with guys, right? Yeah. I started, well, it started with 10-8-0-10-A-old Spanish. Right. You know? I started everything I could remember to go into school I just looked at the teachers

and I'm like oh wow you're back going to school in the 80s and you're all with pantingos then you know yeah looking at looking at teachers and pantyos and stuff like that and I'm like oh wow and oh man I like that you know and stealing pantyos

out of like my aunt's drawer and you know like I said I was 10 years old and just jerking off in them and then putting the back you know yeah So I always like them. I never wore them as a teenager or anything like that. It was with my wife. I'm like, you know, she's like, well, I'll wear them and then she's like, I don't like it.

She's like, we're having sex one day and she's like, you know what? You like them so much? Here, why don't you put them on? Right. And, you know, that's what I'm like, well, I don't want to do that. I'm not gay. She's like, well, you're not gay, so it's not gay. Right.

But you knew kind of that you were into it. You just didn't want to cop. it, right? Yeah, because I was scared from me. You did it but did you also know that you were into guys

at this point? No. Right. Okay. Not at all. Sort of like was the gateway to it, right? Like the panty house?

Yeah, exactly. Okay. Exactly. So, you know, she's like, oh, I want to two wear them. And I'm like,

no, I really don't want and she's like, no, I think, you know, you have nice legs. I think you're not, she had a pill of her mom's name. Her mom lives with it.

She got a pair of her mom's panel about a divorce. It's just because you love to talk to her because it really sounds like, and I've never had a girl on that has a Panyos fetish, but it really sounds like she does stealing all those,

that shit from the women and everything. Like, you know, it's like I've never, like people have asked whether I could get somebody on, like a girl. I never even thought that girl's had me that fetish,

but I'm thinking maybe your girl had it because like you said, she would always bring those things home and she would buy those girls stuff to where. for her, right? Yeah. She didn't come

as that continued. I saw that she did. I'm like, oh, wow, you know. I saw she did. She didn't come out and think about. Maybe she didn't put two and two together because it's not even that weird. She just thought she liked it.

But so you start wearing it with her, right? I start wearing with her. And it went into, you know, panty holes and her, you know, exactly what you're saying. I think she had a good thing. I said, it's true, because all she was rubbed my legs to, you know, had me rub my feet on her, and she would rip my feet in that.

It was totally like lesbian stuff with her again. Right. So how was the lesbian to her? Right. You know? Mm-hmm. And then that turned into her going, you know what? I think she should wear heels with them.

She started buying heels for me to wear. Right. So she would, you know, and then now with heels and tailos it, they were always her worshipping my legs and my feet and stuff like that and then when we're ready to have sex she's like okay now you can fuck me you know

and it was always that and then that turned into you want to put a skirt on it and I'm like no I really don't want to and she's like yeah yeah you do you know she's like yeah you do you want to put a skirt on don't worry and then that turned into

you know with her relieving the thing I would put a screw on was going to the bathroom at home and she, you know, beat my ass and, you know, do all of that in the bathroom again and stuff. So I think I was the lesbian in her for her because she didn't want to do with women anymore. So, well, he's here. Let him be the lesbian, you know. Right.

And she's still mocking up what she used to do. She likes that bathroom sex. Exactly. Right. So we're always in the best. I know, like, take me into the bathroom, you know? Right. So we're always in.

And she was always doing it. I was always buying tanyo for me, buying heels for me. And, you know, and then she, if we didn't have anything, and she should get her mom's stuff. Here, she was used to wear my mom's underwear, and I want to put her mom's underwear on, and she would suck, you know, warming out, you know, come into underwear,

she would put them back in her mom's drawer. Oh, my God. And just, like, crazy, crazy stuff like that. I mean, she even asked her, she said, you know what I fix them to my old mom and why? watch. She said what? And I'm like, yeah, she was trying to give me to have sex with her mom.

Yeah, but would her mom have had sex with you? I mean, come on. Yeah. Yeah, she would have. Are you positive? This is all true. I mean, you have aunts that are fucking, like, I mean, all in one family. These people aren't even related.

That mom would have fucked you? She got as well, she was having sex and, you know, I was in Panyo, I was in jail. She's white. And her mom was in the room next door. Yeah. And her mom was always in. and panty holes and heels that's in her mom dress. And she was telling me, she's like, look, I know my mom's a whore

because I sure have sex with random guys were in. I was a kid. She's like, I'm pretty sure that I could get her to fuck you. And I'm like, are you fucking crazy? I'm like, hell no. You know, her mom was in her 40s, early 40s at that time. Right. And I'm like, hell no, I'm not going to have sex with her mom.

It's like, well, you wear her panty holes. What's the difference? And I'm like, no, absolutely no. once I could have with the mom if I really wanted to right I just know I could have okay you know right I just know right I you just know and it never came to that but we choose the mom's annuals or underwear she'd bring her mom's underwear and jerk me off in them and just put some underwear right back in her mom's yours she's like she finds them she finds them it's a real right I looked at her I'm like all right this is a little weird even for me you know

Uh-huh. But, so it turned into providing everything for me and, you know, us having sex. And I'm like, okay, you know, I'm a little fucking lesbian for her, you know. And she's like, I don't like this anymore. You know, and I'm like, you don't like what? So we don't like this, um, this panty home, high heel, uh, stuff. This is all gay. She's like, are you gay?

You know, and I'm like, no, what are you talking about, you know? So if you really want this anymore, she was like, can you just throw all that stuff out, you know? And I'm like, okay, you know, if you're all right, you know, if you're all right, you know, all right. So we just threw everything out, all, everything she bought the heel or the cranny holes and whatever we had that came to a cross-dressing, just throw all that shit out, you know.

We just threw everything out. And finally, it's kind of thrown sour. And I'm like, okay, she's all. really give me what I want. Now I like wearing the heels and panty-old. So I would wait for the house to be empty, and go into our mom's drawing, just get them on my own canyels, and just jerk off in them. My own heels, jerk off in her heels,

and just put everything on it. Just put everything back. And I'm like, all right, I could do this on my own now, not feel bad that I'm doing it because I'm not doing it with it when it's like I tell. Right. So I started buying my own own hand or heels and just hiding them in my car because she never came in their car, hiding in the trunk of my car underneath the skirt tire, you know. So I started doing that by myself and they never came up again with her, you know, with cross-dressing. And so I started, you know, credulous. And we started already separating.

And I lived alone in this huge house. my daughter was there, too, she was old enough. I started just doing it alone now all the time because I was only alone if I was doing it and now I'm fully dressing. She left her clothes behind, so I put her dresses on and, you know, jerk off and then I saw pictures of myself and it was a ghost to myself. And, you know, and then Craigslist started becoming proper. I'm like, man, let me put an ad on Craigslist, you know.

Put an ad on Craigslist, you know, straight mail, panty old fetish and then the responses you get as ridiculous you know you get hundred of responses from guys you know and then I started meeting guys in my car you know just meeting my guys meeting guys in the car and not having sex with them but letting them feel me up you know everyone's like all all guys what they want to do was curling my heels and color might be right started giving you know letting them love me and, you know, run my legs in the car and, you know, jerk off on my legs and on my heel and your foot drops in the car. And I started having regular guys over when I was old.

You know, a lot of kids are like, well, can I fuck you? I'm like, no, I'm not gay. You know, and they're like, whoa, you're in heels and handles. They're like, what do you mean you're not gay? Like, I'm not gay. I don't want to do what I mean. You know, they're like, oh, okay, you know, started feeling weird. I'm like, man, I can't do this anymore.

I would feel like shit after doing it. like I'm not doing this anymore. I'd stop for three, four months. You know, like, not we're not contact anyone. And then you get that feeling again. You're like, oh, man, let me just put the, let's put the penny hole on, you know, again. And then that turned into, I'm going to put another ad up. And you put another ad up and you let them have more guys, you know.

And I still do that today. But where do you put ads up? there's something called double list double list is like the new Craigslist right I've heard of that I feel like yeah it's a double list now that I put out the ads on and now I

just go to motel and do stuff but what do you do are you a top are you a bottom how far have you gone with guys like what's your thing is it just like fondling yeah you know it's more I get off on watching them like you know

get off. Like, you, you see guys when they see, you know, nice legs and heels, oh my God, you do whatever you want with them.

It's ridiculous. It's crazy how men get when they see that, you know. A lot of them are married. Oh, my wife won't know. I don't have to fondling, and I don't bother them.

I'll top every now with that if I really feel like it, you know, but, and I just believe it or not, I don't consider myself gay. I don't look at guys and go, oh, my God,

I want to fuck that guy. No. far from it, you know, but it was guys that I'm like, okay, well, yeah, I'll fuck him if I really see it. If I'm in a lot of money, I'll fuck them. But I have a whole bunch of men that are that are just like, you know,

do whatever you want to me. And I'm like, well, if you really want me to do whatever I want you, it's going to go to my new extreme with me, you know? Oh, it's not like you're just bongling me. Like, I'm going to accuse the hell out of you. And I have a couple of guys that are like, yeah, sure. I need every couple weeks. just destroy them.

You know, and they're married. They're married and they have kids. But what about you? Do you still see girls, too, on the side? Yeah. Like, do you live, like, a double life where it's like you're the straight guy and you, but you do this guy on guy action behind? I mean, you and your wife were a lot more similar than, you know, you weren't similar.

Because you're kind of like her now with the guys, like what she was doing with the girls. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. exactly the same thing I did. You know, my relationship is a relationship with my life on because I can't commit to anyone, you know,

honestly. How come you can't now? Well, during all of that when I was married, my wife said cheating on me. What, with all the girls? With other, with another guy, with other guys. Oh, you found out? You didn't tell me then. Yeah, yeah.

She, I think when, that's when our marriage started, like, crumbling. It was like, you know, she was very beautiful, and we started hinking out, I think, in the long spots. It was getting too much attention, and she realized, oh, my God, I did the attention of all these guys. And that turned into, you know, her eyes wandering every time they went out. You know, I used to start out, like, what are you looking at? What's in here that's so important to you? I go, if you see someone in here, by all means, go and talk to them. You won't hurt my feelings.

Oh, you're crazy, you know, but I see what she was doing in. I picked up on it. I'm very smart. I was an engineer for a very long time so I could literally record conversations with you and play them back, you know,

five, six years later. Uh-huh. So I started, I clearly went here to be in her and her body and read with it. I'm like, God damn, there's so many of her that she's talking with now.

Because we're going to the same place every Saturday, never missed a Saturday, for a year. And one day she was, on come on from the table. And I turned around, she's in the corner of the bar hiding, talking to the bartender. Uh-huh.

So I look over, and she looks at me, and she's trying to wave me over. I shook my head to the hole. And she came to the table. She was like, oh, why didn't you come? I was calling you. You were going to buy us a shot. I'm like, I'm not going to go and have a shot. I go, well, I know what you're doing.

She looks at me. What am I doing? I go, do you have to me going with that guy? No, I don't. Are you crazy? I'm like, no, I'm not crazy. I'm actually. smart, I know what you're doing.

Yeah. Still denied her. Yeah. Denied her. And then she started picking spites with me and leaving for the weekend and I turned into a reason and turning to, you know. She was pushing you away. Pushing me away.

Leaving and coming and coming. She was running for years, you know. And finally I looked at her one day. I'm like, you know what if you could take the fuck out of the house. Right. I still didn't admit that she was cheating on me, you know? Did she ever admit it? She only way she admitted it was because I finally started dating someone,

and I was dating someone younger than me. Uh-huh. Really, really pretty girl. I was working with her. I just ended up clicking with her, and my daughter told, you know, my dad has a girlfriend, right? And her mom goes, your dad has a girlfriend. She's like, yeah.

And that's how she, oh, you're fucking someone else. Well, if you want to know something, she or who's our pictures of one fucking. We started sending me pictures of her having sex with other guys. No way. Having, she's sending me pictures. The whole time I said that she was, the whole town was accusing her, and she was having checks with multiple guys. And she was taking pictures of everything.

So she started sending her pictures of all the guys that she was having sex with. And who were they all? All my friends. Stop. Stop. They were my business partner for 10 or 15 years, the guys from the bar. No way. The other guy that I knew for four or five years, all guys that I knew and all the guys that she had access to because of me.

Did you ever confront these guys? Or do you not say anything to them? One, one on the phone. And, you know, I know I'm good. And he knows what the kid. He knows very well what I'm giving. You do know when I catch her, I go, you know, I realize. He's over and he's like, oh, yeah, I know.

He's like, I know. There's no fighting with me. I don't, you know, I'm like, I'll, I go, the whole term she was cheating on me. I used to go to him. He's like, man, I think my wife's cheating on me. He would go to me, oh, do you know who? And what would he do to them when you find out? And the whole time, it was him, you know?

Well, but what about your work person that you're, you said there was somebody from your, like your business partner. Did you ever come from that person? Yeah, that was my business partner. Yeah, it was him. It was my business partner, yeah. Yeah, he's like, what would you do to him if he found out? You know, who it was?

I'm like, oh, I just kill him, you know? He's like, oh, okay. But when you found out you didn't kill anyone? No, no, no, far from it, no. But you know what was funny because I was suspicious of him. I knew he liked her because of the way he looked at her. For years, you always catch him staring at her, just in a weird way. Yeah.

And I would tell him little stuff. Just drop little things in conversations with them to see that he was telling her. And every little thing I told them, she knew. So is that how you knew that she, that it was him? So you kind of always knew who it was. But what about the other friends? You said it was like all your friends. Were there any of them that surprised you?

Yeah. It was the bartender, which I knew because I saw her he was looking at her too. Yeah. It was the bartender. And it was some random, you were at the restaurant. He was there too. Right. So I knew him from the restaurant.

Hey, I bought him a drink. He bought him a drink. He came home a house a couple times for, you know, parties here and there. And it was him too. But how old were you when she's like, oh, fuck you, I'm fucking these guys and started sending you pictures? Like, how old are you guys when, you know, your marriage is breaking up and... 42?

Wow. She's pretty vicious. I was 40. I was 40. You don't want to fuck her over. Because she's going to get you back. I mean, like, For her to send you pictures of her having sex with other men that you know because she's mad that, you know, you got a younger girlfriend.

You don't want to piss her off. I mean, she's a little scary. She's still like that. She's still like that. You don't know. You all have to watch everything I say around her with the little conversations I do have with her. I have kids with her. It's like, oh, God, I can't tell her dad.

I can't say this because she'll put it against me. or, you know, say something. And, you know, I turned into, uh, you're a faggit, you're fucking faggagg, you're gay, you know, no way. You know, you just, you know. Well, let me ask you this. How do you, like, if you were to, like, if you had to label yourself, I mean, you kind of hook up with guys, right?

Kind of. Like, what do you consider yourself by or, like, you know, and why does she think you're gay? Because you used to wear, because she doesn't know that you've hooked up with guys, right? No, no. Because I used to wear. and with all that her suggestion I used to tell her I'm like you're the one of buying this stuff you know right

so I used to wear yeah but the funny thing is is like you both kind of blame each other for like you you're like you used to buy it for me that's why I wear it she's like I used to be with girls because you told me too I mean like you're both like probably gay and you just were with each other like for beards and now I'm sure

yeah who would all you know and it turned into even if I talk to her today the first time I comes out of her mouth this fucking faggot. Really? So first thing that comes out of her mom. And she has no clue what I do. It's just like, she's putting everything on the history that we had to do.

I'll be wearing it, whatever, you know. Yeah. And, you know, and that's, too, she's like, oh, if I didn't want, you're wearing panty holes and stuff like that. She's like, I said it because I saw that you were fucking a game, you know? And I was just doing it just so, you know, you don't go any world else to do it. Well, listen, it was, I mean, you know, I don't know, like she was kind of right. Like she didn't know, but she knew like, you know, you were secretly into panty hose.

You do have a thing for guys. So her sort of bringing you this stuff and letting you do it with her did sort of help keep it at bay, right? Because the whole time you were with her, it wasn't until the very end that you started sort of straying. Like when you were with her, you weren't looking at other people or anything. right like you weren't hooking up with guys ever or anything like that you your first experience what guys happened out way later right the way after we were already separated we weren't divorced we were already separated he wasn't living with me for god knows all eight nine months and I'm like okay you know I put the ad up and I'm like

you know then I saw how many responses I'm like man let me try this let me see if it's something I'm looking for right well like I'll just stop doing it it's you know no big deal right But, you know, besides, when she wasn't home, I, you know, put stuff on and, you know, jerk off his shit. You were never with any guys until way later. But the fact that she thought that, but, like, now, like, you're not looking for a relationship, right? And you just like to hook up with girls and kind of a guy sometimes and do your thing. And you're just happy, like, that way.

Like, if you were to have a relationship with someone in the future, it would be with a woman. Yeah, it would be like, um. maybe I should think about getting married again, you know. I have no interest in like being with my... I don't look at him in and go, all the men, he's attracted. Right. You know, I don't look at it like that because the majority of the guys that I do hook up with are regular everyday guy is nothing special, you know.

A little weird. A lot of them are a little weird. You know, and... But wait, you said you don't even want a relationship. Why do you want to get married? I mean, I'm going to have a point in my life for it, especially now with, you know, you know, still dressing and doing that. I'm like, maybe I should stop dressing and maybe just concentrate on being the man

and coming into, you know, being a manly man again and seeing where being with a woman all the time will, that will change my outlook on, you know, pantingoles and dressing, that kind of stuff, you know. You want it to be, you're thinking maybe it'll make it go away? Yeah, exactly. you know because I can stop right you know for months at a time where I have no interest you know I'm like ah you know no interest whatsoever and then it comes back right and does it bother you why would you want it to go away is it confusing to you at all you know I think I'd send it in detection when I started listening to your show I'm like oh okay this is more common that I

really really thought you know I'm like okay I don't feel that weird anymore I always felt like I feel like shit. I feel like shit. As soon as you come, you're like, as soon as you're calm, I'm still in my head. I'm still in heels and pantyos and address. I've got myself in the middle and, you know, you've come to everyone.

I'm like, what the fucking like doing? Yeah, you know, there was a couple times early on in my podcast. Now I hear it all the time and it doesn't blow my mind. But there was a couple first times where people would be like, yeah, I went to a dungeon and I let her do all this, but I wouldn't come. And I'd be like, why wouldn't you come? Like, you're fucking crazy. Like, isn't that the whole point?

but that one guy finally explained it to me. And I'm sure this is the reason why a lot of these other people try not to come in those kinds of situations. He said, listen, I don't want to like come and then like like lose that sort of like drunken horniness thing and be like stuck in a dungeon. You know what I mean? Like instead I like to take that or I like to leave with that all that horniness that's pent up. You know, still staying that mood. Go home. Jerk myself off.

And then, you know, you come and you come out of that situation. situation in your house. You don't know what I mean? You're not in the fucking dungeon. So maybe you should try that next time if you feel so freaked out. Yeah, try to hold. Yeah, try to maybe not like maybe have it these kind of adventures, but maybe don't take it all the way and don't come and maybe leave and go home. Jerk yourself off and then like, you know, you're in your own house. I don't know. But like, I mean, there was something to what that guy said and I get that. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. Because when you are horned, you're. Horner. it is like you're drunk you're not in your right mind right and then the minute you come you're like back a reality and you're like what the fuck like you were like it was like you're off on another planet and if you were really freaky right it could be like a really weird planet right that you're like what the fuck and you know for you because you're really it's not just a fantasy right you're actually going out and doing that you're living out your fantasies right you're like looking at some like guy and like you said a lot of times are kind of weird right and here you are with like this weird

dude and his comes all over your shoes I mean I get why you would be like oh my god I got to go take like 10 showers right to feel normal again yeah that's exactly what you can you know no one tells you their truth you know no one's gonna say hey you know I'm an overweight hairy guy yeah yeah yeah no one's telling you that right how many times you know out-of-state business guys that are like hey look, I'm in the house floor, you know, a day or two can come in my hotel, you know, and I'm like, if I flew like to him, yeah, sure, you know, so I would go a lot of times that these guys would open the door and I'm like, Jesus, what the fuck am I doing here, you know?

Right. You know, and I'm walking to the room, you know, and I'm not dressed. I'm just, I'll bring clothes with me, you know. I'm just dressed for the regular guy, you know. So I would bring my clothes with me or wear a panty old. the jeans, you know, and then they're going to dress wherever I was. So, you know, I have plenty of my games, and I have my stuff with me. And I'm, like, thinking the whole time they're talking to him, I'm like,

man, should I have doing anything? Shouldn't write to anything. Well, okay, what am I going to get out of if I did dress? What is this guy going to hear him? So it was a lot of weird fucking guys, you know. And what I would give to them, I'm like, oh, it's not going to work, you know. Then, like, standing in front of the world, oh, you can't leave, you know. no no no

you don't know you don't know I load on you you know shit like that right they're so desperate they've been waiting

for you and then you get there they don't want you to leave yeah exactly you know what I'm I'm the last guy you have home fuck with

if it's because I'm working off the street right right like you know I'm covered in tattoos right this and that

you know I'm very vanley and I have a lot of respect where I come from and you know I'm literally, I'm the last guy you're going to fuck with. And the last guy, like you said, that you would ever think goes around and likes to wear

the heels and panty hose and sort of hook up with guys. I mean, listen, when you were with your wife and you were sort of living out that stuff with her, you never needed to go with guys and stuff. So maybe, you know, if you were able to meet a woman and you could let your freak flag fly with her, right, and be really upfront about what you're interested in with as far as like the, you know, the cross-dressing. She was down with it and cool. Then you could just live out your fantasies again with her like you did with your first wife.

And then maybe you wouldn't have to go do that stuff with the creepy guys. You know what I mean? And maybe that would be better for you. I don't know. Is that what you're thinking? You know, I always, that's why one thing about my ex-wife. It was like she was being green. Right.

Yeah. Well, she tried, you know, let me just drive on and let me fuck you with it. And I'm like, no, I'm not. I don't want to get fucked. Yeah. Yeah. But she would buy bill do those, you know. She'd be like, oh, use them on her, you know.

And then I remember one day it was she would lay out what she wanted me to wear for her. So it was panty holes, heels, a little lay them out for me. And she pulls out this monster fucking billdo. And I was out on my knees of eating her pussy. She pulls out this monster. your guilt on put your butt and she's like, fuck my dicks. Right. You know, and I'm like, ah, I really don't want to do that, you know.

I'm like, no, I'm like, I'm not gay. What's what you would spend, you know? Like, no, you just fucking do. You want to fucking a little bit, you know. And I ended up doing it just so she could stop. But I didn't, you know, it was like, okay, the whole time I was doing that, like, whatever's doing, you know? And she's like, oh, see, I knew you.

You know, you want to cook your ass, right? And I'm like, no, I don't, you know. but she would constantly try to give me to do that stuff you know like let me fuck you in the ass you know right and um like no I will like let me fuck you and I'm like no absolutely not you know they're like you're not gonna let me fuck no no not at all you know um so that turned into that you but maybe if you had a girl like that was like her very down for things

you could just like live out your fantasies with her you don't want that I the last couple of years I've been with a hand you know I don't want to sound you know like shrillness but I've been with a lot of women and I don't see that

a trade in anyone like a lot of them are you know middle age like still even at middle age so we don't know what they want in sex came from bad relationships and divorces and you know and I'm over here like

you know I experience a lot of shit in my life and you know they're no vanilla you know like yeah but right but you haven't really been open to having a relationship you've just been fucking around you say like you go in and tell these women like by the way i don't want a relationship this is all that i want you know like maybe if you really get clear about what you're looking for and you know you want to meet another freaky girl but like for a relationship that maybe you'd find that i think maybe you have been been meeting women that are totally compatible with you because you haven't really been

interested in having a relationship. But maybe now that you are, once you do want it, maybe you'll wind up meeting somebody more like your ex-wife, someone that's more sort of like-minded to you, you know, because I think a lot of times when we don't want a relationship, we meet people that wouldn't be good for a relationship anyway, right? And somebody that's vanilla, right, isn't going like really float your boat or make you be that excited to really hook up with her, right? So, but if you really start looking for it and make a decision that you want it, I bet you you'll start meeting like the freakier girls and the girls that maybe are more compatible with you once you're definite about what you're looking for. That's how I think it works.

That's what just what I think. Yeah, I think so, too. You know, and I get it younger. And they should be freakyer. And they should be freakyer. They could, you know, I, there's some that are still really, you know, what they don't know what they're like and this and that. You know. but it's hard it's very like you know

hard for someone to be like oh you like oh you like paying you don't go hold on for you yeah yeah no you don't want to um you don't want to um you don't want to yeah you don't want to lead with that on your first date first you have to what you need to do first is make clear to yourself like what you're looking for forget about the guy thing and what you do on the side and everything that fetish whatever just you know do whatever you got want to do over there but like you have to figure out what you want to do as far as relationships are concerned if you think

that you want to get married again, you have to decide that you want to be open to have a real relationship. You have to start telling girls that you meet. Like, I just want to fuck you and I don't want a relationship. You know, and once you get clear on what you want and you start meeting girls that are cooler that maybe you would like, you know, you don't start off with like I want to wear panty hose. You start off with like, hey, can you wear a panty hose? You know, after you're sort of in with it. And then it goes to like, you know, maybe it switches around that I want you know, you're going to wear them and then it builds, you know. And most of the time when I hear from guys who have that kind of relationship with their girls and their girls totally support it.

It wasn't like a, they didn't just tell everything and it didn't all come out on the table at once. You know, it sort of is a gradual thing. And I think if you meet a girl that's super open-minded and down for anything, that it won't be a hard thing to reveal. You know what I mean? It will just come out gradually, but it'll be easy and maybe quicker than you thought, you know, if it's a girl that's super open-minded, you know, but that's, I think you first got to get clear what you're looking for and then get that. And then I think like, if you do, if you do find another girl, it's like freaky like your last, you know, maybe, you know, you guys will live out that fantasy together and whether that's like you with other guys and she knows about it or you just

with her like in the pantyhoes in the heels and that's okay. And, you know, I don't know how you work it up, but maybe you won't feel so weird about it if like your partner. is in on it too. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, that's 100% true because when my ex-wife was into it, I didn't feel weird.

I felt a little weird because I knew she would use it again because she ended up putting my kid, you know? She what? She ended up putting on a daughter. You know your father was being over the hills, right? Oh my God. Yeah, she's like, she's revengeful.

You got to watch out for her. She's a revengeful bitch. Yeah, totally. That's what I said. She's scary bitch. You don't want to cross her. I just kiss your ass for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you better make sure she never winds up listening to this podcast because she'll go telling everybody.

But you should, you know, just be nice to her. But I'm saying, you know, if you meet somebody else, I think that, you know, it would be, it would be beneficial for you, which will be cooler. I mean, your wife, yeah, I mean, she's, she was. She, it was, you know, I had a great sexual relationship with her. that was the only good thing about it. Once the sex went away, we looked at each other and we're like, Jesus Christ, we don't like each other.

There was nothing here. And then the name. Yeah, but that happened. Right, but that's, I think, also, like at the time that you guys met each other. I think that it's less likely to happen when you meet a woman in your 40s than when

you meet a woman in your 20s. I think it happens to a lot of people that get married in their 20s. You know, by the time they're 40s, they're like, who the fuck are you? And maybe you don't even get along with the person that's standing next to you because you know and it's nobody's fault really

it's just like what happens is in your 20s you're like 10 different people before you really figure out who you really are right and you your changes and the thing you change so much and the things that you're into change so much that like the chances of you guys still being totally similar

and on the same page in your 40s is very slim though some people actually do walk the same path the whole time and but I think that that's more rare you know um so i think it's very common that people look at each other the people that got married in their early 20s look at each other in their 40s and like who the fuck are you and there's like no compatibility there and i don't think that that's you know i don't i think that's because you met each other like too young you know but i don't think i like i said i think that that's less likely to happen now

because you're fully formed by the time you're in your 40s 50s i mean you are who you are right you know what the fuck you want you know who you are you are you're you're you're you're you're you're you're less likely to settle. You're going to meet somebody that's like on the same page. And you're not going to change that much. So if you get along in the beginning, you know, 10 years from now, you'll probably still be getting along. You know, you'll like the same things or at least be on the same page, you know.

So I think that it's a different story now going out and meeting somebody. And so I think you could have a really good open relationship that, you know, goes the distance and you have more in common than just sex, right? because when you're young, that's all you're looking for. That feels like the most important thing, you know, but now it wouldn't be that you're most important. You know, we're all older. It's different when you're a little bit older.

So, but anyway, like, thank you so much for calling in and explaining these stories. I mean, they're out of control. They almost don't sound real. But I believe you. Yeah. Oh, there's, there's the top. There's more?

Okay. I ended up having a baby with my ex-wife. So I have a 10 months old now. So you just fucked her recently? Yeah, last year. Okay. Okay, so do me a favor. Put in an email, like our call number two, part two, and we'll do it part two.

Okay? Tell me what you're missing, so we make sure we copy it. But so this is part one of Jordan, right? Is that what we called you, Jordan? Yeah. All right, Jordan. And while we're quarantined, we'll do a part two. Yeah.

All right, send me an email and then I'll coordinate some times in days for you again, too, to figure it out. All right. Thanks so much for calling in. All right. Okay. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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