Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 332 - Jose has a Secret Bisexual Life

Episode Date: April 20, 2020

Jose is into hooking up with guys and he’s looking for a woman who would be down with that. When did he first realize he was into guys? When did he first start hooking up with them? What does he like to do with them when he hooks up? Tune in for all the details which include adult bookstore outings, gloryholes, sex with an Asian transexual, a threesome, filming himself with a guy and then sending it to a girl he was hooking up with and a whole lot more. ** If you want to contact him, email him: [e-mail] **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There's a $200 fee for that, but I talked to you for about an hour, hour and a half. What else? Today I have on a guy named Jose. Now, poor Jose emailed me recently. He was like, or are you ever going to air my episode? Because I taped him so long ago. I just have so many episodes taped right now and so many people wanting to be on the show that it's hard for me to get around to everybody.

I taped him a while ago. He might even have an update at this point. I don't know. He's like a by guy, but I don't know that he necessarily thinks that he's by. You'll hear our little conversation about that. But we talk all about how he's looking to get in a relationship, be much more open about his by side. He's been with men a couple times.

We talk about that. We talk about how he has expressed or told some women about it, how they reacted. Where he's at now, like I said, what he's looking for, when he first hooked up with guys, when he first realized he was into guys and all that good stuff. It's a story that we've heard before, but everybody has their own specific story. I think it's a lot more common, right? Because I mean, look who the titles. There are a lot of guys that are into guys on the side, right? But nobody's really admitting it. But he has admitted it to some people. And we talk about that. What else? I don't know.

You just have to listen to the episode. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on. with Jose. How are you? I'm good, good. How are you? Good. So you send me an email and it's like my favorite kind of email to get because there's like no information in there. Basically your subject line was like my bisexual, my secret bisexual life. And that's about it. So, you know, I don't know anything more than that. So why don't you start explaining like, are you married and have a secret bisexual life or, you know, what's your deal? No, currently, currently I'm single. But what happened is I stumbled across your podcast. And obviously the episodes about bisexual guys kind of stuck out.

And so I gave those. And there's a ton of them. Yeah. And what struck me was a lot of their stories, I completely understand. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's exactly the same. I know exactly what the way he's thinking. Yeah, that's why I do my. show so people can relate and I think it makes people feel less like weird if they're still if they're

keeping a big secret you know because a lot of times even with the internet now you could go on and see that there's other people like you you know you uh but I think that there's a comfort in that for people that are keeping a secret right what was interesting is other parts were completely different of course that's why I could have 50 guys that are by on the down low and it's still going to be a different story you know because each person is different like you're not not married, right? A lot of my guys are married. How old are you? You sound kind of young. I'm actually in my mid-40s. Oh, okay. So how long have you, have you ever been married? Have you ever been a long-term relationship with a girl? And if so, how long, what was the longest?

The most recent serious relationship, I'm coming off. It was, we were supposed to get married and it didn't quite work out. But we were together more than seven years. And now the reason why I asked I was because I'm wondering, are you like, you know, when you're in your relationships, are you seeing guys on the side? Like in those seven years, did you see guys behind her back? Well, let's start with this. Like, it all started when. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good place. That's a good beginning of a story. Well, it goes back all the way, all the way before high school. But like I can really see this distinction coming. Well, the split, almost like a split personality. But so. So in high, why don't we start that in high school? I always go back. I like to go back

because I like to know when it started, how you felt about it. You know what I mean? And then how it progressed. So like before high school you said it started like and how did it start? Well, even when I was very young, um, I remember being elementary as kindergarten. Like there was this old TV show. Um, and they they had this little expose about. about nudist colonies. And I just remember as a little kid just being like, wow. And just like something about it just like was really interested me. And I'm like, yo, this is, this is awesome.

And like growing up just as a young kid, just always being interested in, in kind of sexual things. Oh, okay. Yeah. But, but my preface this with not guys. I mean, I love girls. Right. I mean, I'm attracted to the feminine. I mean, I just all kinds of girls.

I love to be around girls. And kind of understand my personality is I'm kind of a very, not shy guy, but not, how do you say this? Introverted. Like, I spent a lot of time in my own head. I'm not real social. But I guess I was, when I was, especially when I was young, I was really cute. So I got a lot of attention from girls. And I would just suck it up.

I loved it. I just loved getting all this attention from girls. And that persisted all the way through probably out through college when it started, like, you know, not outgrowing that kind of thing. But so anyway, so growing up, just loved girls, always kind of interested in kind of sexual things. Kind of fast forward to high school. So I was kind of dating a lot. getting a lot of attention from girls. And there was a school trip.

And so we'll call this person my high school sweetheart. And we were on a bus trip together. And this is maybe my sophomore, second year of high school. And so we were sitting together, middle of the night on the bus. And so we were kind of sitting together doing the kind of high school thing, kind of rubbing and touching under the blanket. And she goes, under the blanket and she gave me a blowjob.

On the bus? There had to be people sitting directly across from you. Yeah, but it was at night and under a blanket. Oh my God. That's kind of naughty. Well, that's very naughty. And it was like my first real sexual experience. Mm-hmm.

And it was amazing. So kind of after that, you know, just like all the fun times in high school, like dating girls. But where do guys come into all this? Well, it's about to. Okay. So in the city, it's like, because like, I'm just like really, oh, my freshman year, I remember, like, this, this is like maybe when it really kind of started was I was hanging out and saw porn for the first time. Mm-hmm.

And I walk into the room where the guys where it was on. And it was just this woman like going down on this, this huge cock. And I'm just like, wow. And it's like that just stuck with me. Right. That vision. Yeah. So like getting blowjobs in the car in the park and all that.

And so there's an adult bookstore in town. And just my curiosity led me there. How old were you? You're still in high school around, right? I'm probably 16 at this point. So I go in and to be honest, like these places are kind of filthy. You know, kind of a hole in the wall. But I loved it.

Yeah, you're dirty, sexual, curious mind. Yeah, but just like looking at, looking at that time, the VHS cassette covers and just like hard and just like feeling overwhelming sexual energy. And then they had these booths. And I was young and naive. I'm like, so, oh, you go in and you put in a quarter and watch a movie. Cool. And I didn't notice the glory holes. Oh, right.

Yeah. And so, and I was pretty popular with the guys hanging out there. Yeah, because you were 16. Yeah. So, like, I was getting attention from them. And, like, what's going on? and just like in this dark booth on a sudden you know a hand reaching in but the first real experience came is because like I really like kind of hanging out there one night went in and at this one

particular place and this guy and my memory is he looked just like Freddie Mercury right okay And so at the time, he's like, you know, the guy, right? But no, like, see, I'm not like the truck. Yeah. But just like that he's, you know, had mustache. Yeah. And like, he was real polite and he's like, oh, would you like to share a booth? I'm like, oh, okay.

Because then I kind of go in and like, so we're kind of watching porn. And like, so we kind of like start masturbating. Then he kind of grabs me. And I just remember. grabbing his cock and just like oh just it was just great you know so I'm like kind of stroking his cock and like then he goes down on me and gives me like the most amazing blowjob ever right and when you were in those glory holes before you went into the booth with him so nobody like people would touch your dick and stuff but you never got blown by a guy on the other side or was this

to me I can't really remember right like when was the exact first but you remember but you remember this guy right? Yeah, because it was the first. Yeah. And like the first time I really like was holding another guy's cock. Yeah. And that was kind of like when I say bisexual, but it's because I've heard you talk to other guys about it. Like, and I think it's just kind of a.

A semantics thing because you're going to go into this whole thing. Like I like girls. I don't like guys, but dicks are in your mouth. I know. I get it. I've had this conversation 10,000 times. Yeah, but I think I think the distinct. that's kind of the important is I'm not attracted to men like the idea of dating a man

just like it doesn't even occur to me but you like cock so I think the different this is what I think I'm just going to tell you this again and I've said it before I get that you don't not like you you don't you don't want to date a man I think that that goes into being that's the difference between being gay and buy buy is like you're your your sexually attracted to the other person but you're romantically attracted to them. So you like cock and you like a guy stuck in your cock, but you don't want to date him. That's because you're not gay. You want to be romantically with women, but you sometimes like a dick.

That would be bisexual to me. That's because you're sexually attracted to men, but you're not romantic. You don't want to hold hands and cuddle and watch a movie, but you want to do that with a woman, right? Some guys want to do that with a guy. That would be a guy that's considered gay. If you ask me, that's my thing. But I'm probably fucking wrong. I don't know, but it doesn't, does it really matter?

But yeah, like, there's certain situations, like, where I'm feeling kind of hot, but, like, if he wants something or says something, like, something happens, it'll just, like, completely no. Like, if a guy wants to kiss. But a heterosexual woman would be like, yeah, put your, you could fuck me, but don't, and then a guy's like, let me put it in your ass. And she's like, no, but that doesn't mean she's not into guys. It just means she's not into anal sex.

You like blow jobs. You like guys blowing you. You like touching cocks. Like that's just because maybe you don't like something else doesn't mean that you're not into guys. You are into guys on a certain level. So that would be bisexual. No big deal. And so like how far do we want to go with this?

What do you mean? So that was so like that that was kind of this I guess would say the start between like a daytime life and a nighttime life. Yeah. Almost almost literally. But I'm like what would happen is like you know during like normal. life. Just like a normal guy. And I think it almost is more about pornography.

During the day, just normal guy. But at night or if I'm alone, like, see just like a sexy picture or like a bit of some porn. And then just like, that's when the fantasies come. And that's when I start feeling like, oh, yeah, that'd be great to. experience right and then you had that bookstore near you and you'd go and you had the balls to sort of i think a lot of people sit with those fantasies in their room alone you know and just it remains in their head but you had the balls to like really go there and do it right and live those fantasies out because you

had the bookstore right there and you were you were comfortable going in yeah so now in college so kind of more into like the the fantasy of of sucking cock or having my cock sucked yeah and hanging out these bookstores At night sometimes, like usually when I was drunk or after going to the bars if I didn't have, you know, a girlfriend at the time. Yeah. And so the fantasy is like having having a three-way. Like a guy and a girl. Oh, okay.

And I was really naive at the time. And like there was a couple times where I was like slapping me in the face. And I think some couples did want to have a three-way with me. and I got, it was like too nervous or, or just didn't work out. And I always had this feeling like all these missed opportunities. I'm surprised because I think it's hard. I think sometimes it's hard to find like a couple that wants a guy and he's going to let the guy fuck his way. You know what I mean?

But you say that you had come into that contact, like you had experience. Was this at the bookstore or was this just like out in regular bars? This was when I was in college, just like hanging out with, with other college kids, Right, right, right. Drunk and shit, right? And it was just, I always was too, like, nervous to, like, actually just, like, jump in and, and do things. Yeah.

And there's so many times where I felt like, oh, I didn't take advantage of that situation. That always really bugged me. So I felt like, oh, I missed, they could have had this great sexual. But what were the things that actually did happen? I know those are the things that didn't happen. Like in college, did you dabble with guys there? Did you ever take it out of the bookstore and get into like hooking up with like a friend or somebody that you met in college? No, never.

And like part of it is it has to be completely anonymous. So I wanted to be completely anonymous. Oh, interesting. So that that has like that's a part of the turn on for you. No, it's not just the turn on. It's just like I. In the moment like I, no, I just wanted to be anonymous. and it's not like a turn on thing.

It's just like, it's just like, you don't want anyone to know. Well, that's, well, if it's a fetish, it's a turn on. Say word. I mean, same shit, no? I mean, it's like, I think a lot of people, like, some people, like, I had this thing when I was younger, like, if I liked a guy, like, he would be less, I would be less sexually attracted to him.

Like, I was, like, turned on by, like, people that I wasn't really attracted. You know, there's sometimes there's that thing where, like, you want it to be no feelings, right? Someone you don't know. and that is a part of the turn on. And that, I think a lot of people have that in certain situations. Well, with men, like, after I come, like, boom, it's done. Yeah, that's all guys. That's normal.

Yeah. Yeah. But no, with women, it's different. No, I know. Oh, with women, you don't want to leave them, but with a guy you do. Yeah. Uh-huh. Come and then just like, almost embarrassed.

Like, what the hell? I'm like, no, this is done. Like, if a guy gets to kind of fee-y, or he wants to caress or like that's like the biggest turn off yeah for sure i get that because you're not you don't want to take it further that would be like if like i think that's like the same thing that a guy because you're heterosexual you're you know you're really into women and maybe you like fucked a girl that you really wouldn't be into if you were drunk you know your beer they call it like beer goggles right like it's the same way that when people get drunk and

they fuck someone whether it's a guy or a girl or who you're you know if it's someone that you really probably wouldn't have done it when you were sure you're Like you wake up in the next morning, you're not drunk anymore. You're like, get the hell away from me. You know, that's just normal. You know, when your dick is hard and you're horny and you're in that fantasy mode, I always say this. It's like you are drunk. And then the minute you come, it's like you're not drunk anymore.

It's immediately over. So, you know, if you just did it because you were, you know, a little high on your heart on and you're not really into that person, of course you're going to be like, get the fuck away. That's normal. But, you know. But, I mean, sometimes I've heard. it a lot for guys that they, you know, they wind up. A lot of stuff happens with guys and their friends and they keep it on the down. So, but you were always like, so while you were in college, was there a bookstore near your

college? Were you in college, like, where you lived or like, where were you getting your rocks off with guys during that time? A couple different. Like, I would say there was three. Oh, there you go. I knew of. Yeah.

And it would just be, like, the fear was always like there's going to be someone in there that I knew. Mm-hmm. But luckily, for the most part, that never happened. What do you mean for the most part? Did it ever happen? When I was back home in a different city, but back home for college, I did end up happening twice, I think. Like just like one guy.

So I didn't have a lot of friends in this city because I didn't go to high school there. It was just where my family was living while I was in college. So I would go to the bookstore and it turned out one of the guys at the same part-time job came in. But like we didn't have friends in common and it was kind of a big, big workplace. You just didn't make eye contact with him anymore. Actually, after that, I think he was on the way out of that job anyway. So he ended up being, yeah. So you're in college and you're like, a whole whole.

up with girls, right? You're hooking up with guys. Now, like, during this whole time, right? Like, were you freaked out about, like, what you were into? Like, did, you know, like, because I think sometimes it can be confusing, right? Like, am, like, am I gay? Am I straight or am I, you know? Because, like I said, I'm, I spent a lot of time in my head and, like, one of my favorite things to think about is myself. But I've never, like, freaked out about it. But I'm also like, no, I'm not gay. Yeah. But I really, I loved it.

And it was more like, I love to think about sucking cock. But I know these guys love to suck my cock. And you like when they do it. But do you like it when you're doing it? To be honest, I haven't done it. I once I've done it a lot. But I'd maybe really tried it just a couple times that I can think of back in college. where I'm like, what about penetration?

Have you ever been a top or a bottom or anything like that? Or is it always just oral sex? You're going to like this story. Okay. Fast forward many, many years. This is kind of like my life in Japan. So usually what I do is when I get excited and, you know, after going to the bar and be kind of drunk and then when I was back in the States, go to the bookstore and kind of play around. But in Japan, they don't really have that same.

thing so it kind of ended up being massage parlors right and and the miss the girl like so she's given like the happy ending and they they started like sticking their finger up my ass and i'm like wow yeah right i like that yeah most guys would i don't you know and so that was pretty awesome. So I'm like, yeah, I kind of like that. And then it's like, okay, we'll try another finger kind of. Um, so, so that kind of started being a thing. And how do I say this without sounding like kind of an ass, but, um, I, I don't, I don't like transsexuals, but like Japanese or Asian transsexuals like really do look like girls. Okay. And it's like they're Well, if you sort of lose the illusion of them being a man or a woman, if they kind of sort of look like a man that kind of loses it, but like they look, I mean, they were girls.

But my first anal was with an Asian transsexual girl. And my only anal has been with Asian transsexual women. Well, I would think that that's like the best of both worlds for somebody like you, right? because you're really into women, right? So, and you're kind of into cock, right? But you don't want, like, the guy, really, right? So, like, to have, like, a chick with a dick, like, wouldn't that be, like, your ultimate? Well, I like the Asian transsexual girls because they're not very big.

And I don't have a, so they fit. But to be honest, it started more the fantasy of being old. bottom and I guess um so yeah I think about that more kind of fantasize about that more but I've not really had any experience with it well you just said you did it with the the transsexuals haven't didn't you actually do it or no yeah yeah we did it like I've done it twice okay just twice but like with like a man so I guess I kind of fantasize about it now would be willing to kind of oh try it with a straight up man uh but you have it you haven't bottomed with a man ever And have you ever topped?

No, no, no, no real interest in that. Right, okay. And this brings up, like, one of the other previous shows you did. Yeah. Someone said that they like to be with men, but only as a woman. Uh-huh, yeah, that's a, I've had a couple of those on my show. That was, like, interesting to me. I'd never heard that before, but now I hear it a lot.

But I understood, and I never really thought about it, but like, yeah, because, like, when I'm with a guy, I kind of take on that, that female persona. Yeah. Because I love it like when I'm with like, I like it being with many guys. It's like one guy's like, you know, maybe like one guy's behind me kind of rubbing my ass and like kind of

reaching under and another guy's sucking me off. Like that's, that is awesome. Did you just say you were with many guys? Like what did you just say? Well, no, like hanging out at the bookstores. Of course. Like it was like there was multiple guys and multiple times where you had multiple guys.

Like how many was the most guys you have? out of one little scenario. Well, I think the first time I really sucked cock. Yeah. Because, like, I, I loved the fact, like, they were interested in me. Like, they were, like, wanting to, like, come and... Give you attention, right. Uh-huh. Like, this is awesome.

And so, like, yeah, I would just, like, leave the door of the booth open and, like, you know, a bunch of guys would kind of come in and just, like, let them just go at me. How many guys around? I think three, four. And they would all come and they were giving you blow jobs, right? Is that what was going down or just grabbing you, touching you? But you were like the person they were like using, right? You were like the little slutty girl.

Yes. But I was never, like at that point, it was just a fantasy. And I never really wanted to actually do it. Like actually start sucking cock, but like one time I did. Yeah. And it was for me, it has to be the perfect. cock like if it looks strange or just like they're not interested just kind of a turn off but if it looks right what is it what is the perfect one for you like what does it have to look like does it

big small perfect head like no beans beans typical oh no rings no like your typical nice porn cock i don't know right okay no nose curve no not too thin not too thick i don't know right I mean Not I mean I guess I like cut I'm like Right Uncut doesn't really appeal to me

Circumcised It has to be the right Looking cock And I guess As younger I never Kind of did it But as I've gotten older

I kind of want to do it more The blow jobs Yeah Now when you were in that seven year Relationship Did you fool around What guy's behind her back When I'm

in a relationship, I don't need to as much. And when I was living with my college girlfriend, I didn't really need to as much. But it's almost like two different lives. Like at night, just go to the bookstore and get a blowjob. And it's like, didn't even think about it. But did you do that while you were with your college girlfriend and with your last girlfriend or no? Well, here in Japan, I couldn't. Right. And that's where you had the seven-year relationship.

Yeah. But in college, you could. I guess I did. Of course I did. But it was like, yeah, it's just like a different life. I didn't even think about it. Right. Like it's so separate that you don't even like sort of put it probably in your memory as the same time. Right. Because it was like your and I think that we could like it sounds like oh, how do you know how fucking remember? But like I think that if you really are living a separate life, you can, like looking back, right? Sort of have it so separate even in your memory, too, that it doesn't seem like the same person or the same time, right?

Like the mind's a funny thing. And it's almost like it's like, well, it's another business anyway. This is kind of my private thing. Yeah. Uh-huh. And also like it's a relationship thing. Like I have a relationship with her and there's not even a question I would have a relationship with a guy. Right.

But you would like to have like a three. Did you ever wind up having a three with a guy and a girl? Oh, yeah. How did those situations come up? Really? How did that come up? And who was that with? Well, it was while I was living, it was here in Japan.

And answering a Craigsstad. And if you're a single guy, like, good luck to you. Yeah, that's what I'm right. Yeah. But like one person did. And this was a guy who was living in Korea, but his girlfriend was living here in Japan. And so they were looking for a single guy. And so they responded.

Or I responded to them. They got back to me. And so they're like, okay, let's talk online and see what this will work out. And so we were Skyping together. And they're like, okay, well, you know, what's your fantasy? What are you kind of looking for? And so I'm like, okay, well, just be. really honest, like, okay, my fantasy is, is, I'll be in the 69 position.

Right. And while, while you're kind of fucking her from behind. And so I can, like, eat her pussy and kind of lick your cock at the same time. And then they're like, sold. Okay. We'll meet you. That's what they were looking for, right? And so this guy, he was a nice guy, he was a cool guy.

And the girl was hot. I mean, just amazingly. gorgeous, half Japanese, half Italian, just like the most beautiful woman you would want. And so we met up and, like, had the most amazing threesome. And were you with the guy, did you have that exact fantasy that you just laid out that you said that what you were looking for? Like did you do the 69 with him banging her and you like? Yeah, like basically, I'm just like, I love to satisfy women. And I'm all about satisfying the woman.

But also like the nervousness like kind of going into a three way is like you want to be polite. You don't want to step on any toes. You want to understand their boundaries. So that was the worry going in. But I was like, okay, I just love cock and I love women. So I'll do anything, you know, whatever boundaries you have and just worked out. Perfect. Right.

And did you see them more than once? No. I saw her again. She was allowed to see you without her guy. Yeah. So I think what happened is their relationship was, I don't know how the relationship was. They didn't really go into it too much. But, you know, she was here.

And like she did contact me and she did come over once. And that was another kind of first because like another fantasy. So we were together. I'm like, okay, after I kind of suck my cock and I come to your mouth kind of then kiss me. right so you could get it in your mouth as well right yeah because like that's kind of another it's a fantasy but i've never really done it and if i do have the opportunity usually i'm like oh gross i don't really want to do it wait is that what you say to the girls like oh gross but you're pretending not to be into it because you know how many guys do that with me and i'm like yeah do i really know if they're telling the truth

well no to be honest when i was in high school yeah i remember and i feel bad about this but like my kind of my high school sweetheart like she would give me a blow a job and after she'd want to kiss and I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, so many guys are like that. But as I'm older now, and maybe it's just because, but I, no, because recently, I've been like, you know, fantasizing more about it and thinking I might want to get more into that and I've been like kind of tasting my own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh-huh.

But I don't really like it. But then like when you're in the mood, when you're like in the middle of jerking off and fantasizing about it. Yeah, you could get into it. Right. Yeah. Just for the dirtiness of it, right? While you're in the act. I get it.

But also like currently there is a girl that I'm kind of in contact with. And she said because I'm kind of now to the point where any relationship I get into, I'm kind of like I want to be honest because it's like that's where I kind of. where I kind of want to end up. Yeah, that's great. Because look, that girl, you met, she was with a guy that, you know, they were having an open relationship like that. That's what you're looking for, right? Yeah.

Well, not necessarily an open relationship. I mean, someone who's, yeah. But doesn't have to be open kind, but doesn't have to be open kind of if you're going to be fooling around with guys? I mean, isn't that kind of open? What I want is a girl who's into it and wants to join me. Right. But that's still, I mean, to me an open relationship is like, you're not just fooling

around with each other. So even if you're both together, that's, and there's a man there that isn't a part of your relationship and you're fooling around with that guy, that would be an open relationship, don't you think? I always saw open relationship is like, okay, you can go off by yourself and see guys and I'll go off by myself and see people and then that's okay. Right. But I'm more like, you want to do it together. That's my idea of open relationship. Yeah, maybe you're I want a girl who's into into me and into doing things together. Uh-huh, right.

And you would want, but that's good that, like, at this point you're looking for a girl. Now, what were you going to say about the girl that you're with right now? Well, she wasn't into me being by. But you told her. Yeah. That's great.

Is this the first girl you've told? Just real quick. Is this the first girl you've told? No. You have told others. Yeah. So this, this particular situation, I told her and then she's like, well, my fantasy is just having

a lot of cum. So she's like, well, you can do what you want, but just make sure I get to take all the cum. Interesting. So she would, you probably couldn't give her enough come. She wants another guy there. Yeah. So Lex started a whole bunch of fantasies and kind of took me off into exploring that more.

Now, have you guys been with a guy? No, no, like we haven't even met. This is more just over the over texting relationship. Have you ever seen her? Not in person. No, but you've seen her on Skype? I mean, she is a woman. Oh, yeah.

Okay, okay, cool. So you, are you ever going to, well, you never know. Listen, you laugh, but like people get, what is that called catfished? You know, I just want to make sure you actually saw her like on FaceTime or whatever. No, like we've, we've, we've sexted like, you know, back and forth. And like the thing, and I hate to say it is just like I kind of put girls in different categories. Like, okay, this is a long-term relationship. This is like, let's just have fun and hang out kind of girl.

And she kind of got like, okay, she's just let's hang out and have fun. I don't really see it being a long-term relationship. That's how you felt about her. That's how I do feel about her. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. So is that how she feels too?

I mean, have you discussed that? No, my worry is she'd want a long-term relationship. Well, I do know she wants a long-term relationship. So I kind of, I don't know. Now, how do you know that you're, okay, let me ask you this. How far does she live from you? It would, it would be difficult to meet often. So it's that.

So how could you have a relationship with her anyway? I would say a real relationship because we know what I'm saying. I know you don't want one with her. I'm saying for her, like if I was her friend, I'd be like, why would you, you can't have a relationship with this guy. lives too far away. Do you know what I mean? Anyway.

I mean, do you ever think you'll be able to meet her in person and get it on? Is that your guys fantasy? Well, because for girls, I'm like, I want a long-term relationship. So like if I kind of put them in like,

okay, that's a short term, it kind of, you know, kind of ends up dying. So. Yeah, but I,

hurting anybody. Right. So you don't want to meet her in real life because you feel like maybe if you did she'd feel like even more into you and then you were like you just flew all the way there or whatever just to bang her and you don't not into you don't want anything more yeah some i don't want those complications yeah yeah well to leap later on yeah well have you told have you express have you let her know that i think she kind of knows the situation yeah i think

with women what guy and i'm just going to say that's just because you know guys are listening and you're a guy, I'm a girl, I know how girls are. Like, I think what a lot of guys don't understand is that if you're, the more straight up you are with a woman, the less they're going to get hurt and the more likely they're going to just like fuck you without a relationship. What happens with guys is they always think, oh, I don't really want to tell her that I'm not into her at all because then she won't sleep with me. So I'll pretend that I want a relationship so I could get her in the sack.

Whereas it's the exact opposite. if you let a girl know straight up I am not into you I will never date you she might not like that at first but if she's horny for you and she eventually like swallows that pill and knows it she's more likely to just fuck you and be fine with it whereas all the problems come

because guys think they can't be straight up like that with a girl whereas you should more girls will fuck you and be okay with it than the opposite way yeah and if she lived close and probably I'm sure we probably would have hooked up by now. But also, and I don't want to be, I hate to be this honest, but like once she opens her mouth, I'm like, no, I just turned off. What do you mean? We don't click.

We don't click, you know. Right. Like you really, you just click sexually. Like you're not, you don't like her personality at all. I don't even know sexually. But you're Skyping. But she's a. I know, but you're sex.

But you're sexting with her, right? Aren't you jerking off with her and coming with her and like having these fantasies with her? I don't understand. Yeah, but I think we kind of have different fantasies. Well, do you have those same one where as you both, she, you, she wants a lot of calm. You want some guys there. Like, wouldn't that all be kind of similar? No.

A little similar, but I think a little different. But, but yeah, I think personality wise is it's not clicking. Right. Okay. But you have, you said that you did tell other women. About it. Who else? Did the seven-year girl know about it?

No. And I would kind of test the waters. And like she was like the most innocent and traditional Japanese girl you could imagine. Mm-hmm. Like this, she couldn't drink water from a, from a bottle and walk at the same time. Like that's how proper she was. Oh, my gosh. Wow.

Yeah. Uh-huh. And. I was her first. And so we were together for a long time. And it's not that she wasn't into sex or willing to explore things, but she just wasn't into guys on guys. Yeah. And that's like not that.

Like it's not like your, I mean, and I think that you'd find a lot of women that might not be into that. And that doesn't mean that they're like so vanilla. Yeah. If we were, I mean, she was the perfect woman for me to. to get married and like have a family and be with. And if she was into it, I mean, like, you know, bonus, but I know she wasn't. And I know a lot of girls like this because, you know, kind of tested the waters. And like their idea of two guys being together, they think, oh, that's just gross or they're just not into it.

Right. So I kind of felt like, okay, she's not. And I didn't press it at all. Right. But other women have been okay with it? Have you ever been with a woman that? you were dating that was okay and you had another guy in the situation or no? The first girl I told, so that was here in Japan.

And so like we were just kind of dating around and she was in the not long term category. Yeah. Oh my God, you're a very typical guy like Madonna or thing like oh, you know, like this is it. This is wrong with that. That's just normal. Yeah. I knew this girl didn't know. any friends of mine didn't know

what, like we had ran in different circles so there was no no fear that it would get back to anyone that I knew or you know, so I'm like fuck it, I'll just tell her. And I did. And this girl was kind of like, oh, okay,

that's cool. But I just kind of ended up you know, breaking up before I could explore anything more. Because you didn't like her else otherwise, right? Is that what the deal was? Oh, I didn't catch that.

You didn't like her besides, like you were like kind of liking her and then when you got to know her you were an inters, so you just didn't take it any further? Yeah. And for the longest time, and this may be selfish, but I'm like, damn, I missed an opportunity. Right. Do you think, though, that you could, let me ask you this, though, because I'm wondering, maybe, and maybe the answer is going to be yes or no, that you, it might be hard to integrate the two things together because you.

have this very sort of like this girl is so pure and so she's she's so proper and that's what you sort of like to have relationships with whereas the girl that's not that wants to see you with all the come like maybe you could never have those two can you do you think you could find a woman that has both those things that you would be attracted to or do you think you've lived that other life is so separate that you might not be able to sort of integrate both those things in a woman and be into her like that's why maybe you know what I mean I know I know I mean and I think maybe in the past I felt that I couldn't yeah but now I think it just has to be the right girl right yeah and I think that right girl is is maybe difficult to find or or

listen the right girl's difficult to find even if it's you're not looking for something specific like that right I mean you don't meet and not everyone you meet is going to be the one right that's why when you do meet someone that you really like you lock that shit down and you date them for seven years because it's not easy to find right so um but i think what's really great about you is that and why it's probably was harder in the past but it doesn't feel hard now is because you're sort of integrating that part of you more in yourself right like you want to be open in your relate you know what i mean you were always living like a double life and keeping it separate i think what the thing is is i'm just older and i hate to say it but i

think I lost the opportunity to have, you know, the, the marriage and the family and all that. No, you have it. You're at 40, what? How old are you? Mid-40s. You're not. You could date a 32-year-olds. I think the clock is ticking on that.

I'll just say that. Why do you look terrible for your age? I mean, you know, do you have some cash? Like, I mean, you could get a girl. You could get a 37-year-old or, you know, 35-year-olds. What age range do you normally date? Well, the great thing. Well, realistically or ethically or?

No, realistically. Like, what do you like? What's your, you know, if you're on a dating app, what's your age range you're looking for? Well, to be honest, like if, like on, on Tinder, it's like anyone who's interested. What is like the perfect, like, what is the perfect sort of situation look like for you? Like, what would be ideal? Do you want to get married and have kids? I, I would like to.

But like I said, I think I'm just being. realistic in that it's the clock is ticking on that and I'm not sure it could happen but I think what am I attracted to it's like well women of all ages colors and sizes I mean right but I'm just saying that if you're I think you're wrong to think that the clock is ticking and it's done I think that you know if you really sort of figured out what exactly you wanted you spent a lot of time in your head I think what happens is you think it's not available to you so you don't include as an option but I I'm telling you that it absolutely is 100% available to you to meet a woman that's like 34 in your 40s that will be with you and you could

still have a family and have kids with her like that's just a fact maybe it's not in your culture i don't know oh well no i'm american but but yeah being here in japanic it might be a little more complicated but but also like i've dated girls in their 20s right so i don't know why i don't know why you think that it's not i mean your clock is ticking but i'm just saying like if that's what you want and if you got clear you can absolutely find that i do believe that when you're really clear about what you're looking for and you're really honest with yourself about that like that will appear in your life i really do believe that if you're like you know what i'm like 40 something i live my whole life living this secret life i would like a uh a family and you know

but i want a woman that's going to be open to exactly who i am if you really was like we're clear about that like i think that you could find that and you're more likely to get that in a woman that's younger than a woman that's older. So you could have all of that if you wanted it. I think I've had more luck with the older women being open to that. Okay, but I'm just telling you that the younger generation is super open, a lot more open. And you know, you're lucky that you found those women, but I'm just saying that if you want somebody who's still in childbearing years because you want a family and stuff, you can find that.

And I think you're more likely to find the younger women that are really open to different things. Listen to all the words that they use nowadays. Gender fluid and they have, it's just they're very, they're just much more open about all that stuff, you know. So I just think it is an option in if that's what you want. But I don't know. I think you think a lot about things and you overthink things and you think and think and think and think. So you think all these things. But I think the reality of certain stuff is just a lot, probably a lot less complicated than you make it in your head.

You might be right. Yeah, probably. but yeah but but at least i know that's that is kind of where i'm at now is being actually it's really exciting telling girls that i think it's great like i said i think because you're finally becoming one with that other part of you instead of keeping it separate that you will be able to meet a girl that is also both things for you because you see that in yourself i think it's a projection in ourselves when we can't, when we have that real thing where you're like, oh, this person, because I did the same thing, like, this person is who I want sexually, and this is the person

that I want, like, you know, to love. And those two people can't be together. And that's when, to me, that's a projection on how you're living your life. And so now that you're bringing those two parts together, I think you're more likely to be attracted to a woman that has both those things. That's prim and proper like the girl that you're with, but wants to see you maybe are open to you being by. and accepting. Well, there was kind of a turning, not a turning point, but kind of an event that

happened where I was like, I'm going to jump in, just like really tried to make this happen. So it was after the breakup and kind of recently it was like maybe this last summer, met a girl. And like for a girl, she's maybe in her 40s, but just like awesome hot body. And so like we met for the first date and I'm thinking, well, this probably isn't going to work out. And at the end of the, I was ready to kind of like call it quits and head back home, but she wanted to go out for dinner. So I did. But so we were having coffee and she starts talking about her, one of her students. So she's a Japanese girl and she teaches Japanese to foreigners. And she was talking about one of her Italian students who used to do pornography.

And so we're having like all this sexy talk about, about, you know, all this sexy talk over coffee. And so she's talking about her Italian friend and like how they would, this Italian guy would send her pictures of his cock. And she's telling me all this. I'm like, oh, this could be pretty hot. So I start, my mistake, I start kind of making alluding to things like, oh, yeah, he does have a nice cock. And like, oh, yeah, well, you're kind of making those jokes to kind of see her reaction. And I think I misunderstood or like she was misunderstanding. But so I would tell her these things.

Like she seemed like she was cool with it. And it's like I just said, okay, like, yeah, that's my fantasy. I'd love to suck cock. And I thought she was into it. Like she seemed to be open to it. And so I would like, hey, can keep like, is there something you would like to do or can we do this? And I would get yes, and then I would get like, no. And so, so I finally said, like, okay, well, I'm going to happen to be at the same time.

Like, there was this guy I met, well, met online on Craigslist, but we'd never met. And so, like, I re-contacted that guy and said, like, hey, I think I got this girl who would like to have a three-way. And like, you know, by the way, like, let's meet. And so I told her, like, you know, this is what I'm into. I'm going to meet this guy. And does this sound good to you? And she's like, okay. And I'm like, okay, well, here's what I'll do.

I'll meet this guy and I'll videotape it. And I'll send you the video. And if this looks sexy to you, maybe we could all meet together. And she's like, okay, that sounds sexy. So. And this is like one of the times I really sucked cock. like really got into it. So like I met this guy and filmed like, you know,

kind of set up my iPhone and videotape me sucking his cock and sent it to her. And like, this was like so hot. Like just thinking about her watching it. But that's one thing I really like it. The idea of a girl watching and liking that and kind of being into it. So I was really. getting off on this, this idea, like she's going to watch this video and see and hoping, like, she would be into it.

But so, so that happened, sent her the video. And she's like, oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, that's not for me. And I'm like, well, what? You know, this is really kind of important to me and this is so hot. And she's like, no, not what I want. Yeah, well, you know, at least you tried. at least she was open to it and then she knew and you knew not the right person.

Kind of fast forward in reverse at the same time. My high school sweetheart. So she's, I remember meeting her like we, she went off to college. I went off to a different college and one one winter, winter holiday I ended up meeting up with her. And, and this was in a different city and we met up and then she was telling me how her, her male roommate, like, he said he was, like, really stressed out. So, so I gave him a hand job. That was nice of her.

And I'm like, that's kind of hot. Yeah. I didn't say it, but I was like, yeah. Yeah, I'd be kind of into that. And she then, this same time, she kind of admitted that she was, she had a three way. And like, she was kind of. experimenting with girls at the time. And I'm thinking,

damn, like, don't we live closer? Like, this is awesome. But I didn't tell her my secret at the time. Right. So, you know, we spent the weekend together and, like, you know, they kind of go back our separate lives and, like, kind of, we live too far away, but always kind of stayed in touch. And so she came out to visit.

And the exact same coffee shop. This was just after the relationship with the girl I was just talking about. And I don't remember how the conversation came up, but I told her. And then she's like, oh, yeah, my husband is exactly the same way. So, like, that's the first friend, like, first person that I really told that, like, the first person who really knows me that I ever told about this. But now, fast forward. No, yeah, so she came out to visit just like, you know, so it's just like this last spring. And well, whenever, yeah, this last, well, she came out and visited and I told her.

And I actually showed her the video and got really got off just her watching that. Yeah, she liked it. Yeah, well, she says she did. I don't know if she's being honest, but. Yeah, well, the other woman told you the truth. And I mean, that's what you want. I think that that's great about that's what's great about being straight up. It's just like you could weed out what's not right for you,

especially if you're at the place where you want your next relationship to be, you know, with somebody that likes you for exactly who you are. And this is a part of who you are. I was really dangerous after I made that video after that because I wanted everyone to watch it. Oh my God, that's hilarious. But also it's like, your little exhibition is a little bit. Maybe that's a little part of something.

You realize you're like you're into that part of it as well. I know I'm kind of an exhibitionist because at the bookstore. Yeah. Of course. And look and think about what. Think about that first experience on the bus. You know what I mean? Yeah.

You're on the bus in front of a middle. Like everyone's there. You're in school. Like there's all people around and you're like you're having sex in public. Okay. That's like what it's all about. That was one of your first erotic experiences. Do you get it?

nothing I say like penetrates your head everything I say it's like it's like a drop there's like a mic drop and it's like where is he is he fucking there does he hear what I'm saying what what I was thinking about yeah that's the problem you're so you don't this is the problem okay you I'm gonna edit this out you are so in your own head about your own shit that you're not really listening to what the other person is because you're you're thinking in your head You should sometimes let go of the thinking and just really listen on the other side. Oh, I hope you don't.

I'm totally listening. Yeah, no, I know. But my pause. Yeah. Yeah. What I was thinking is how when I went to the bookstore, I love just like, I guess they call it Donald Ducking. What is that? Drop my pants just like naked from the waist down and just like just walk down like the

hall and let all the guys watch. Oh, my God. That's so funny. I've never heard that before. That's called Donald Ducking. I heard someone call it that as a joke. Oh my God. That's hilarious.

So yeah, you are a little exhibitionist. You have that side of you. And that's, that's cool. That's like another thing that you like. So you want to make sure. Too bad that girl, you can't hook up with her again. She liked the video. Well, she's married, but she has an open relationship.

Uh-huh. But I, but this is her stuff. I don't want to talk too much about it. But I know she has an open relationship. And I know she has an open relationship. some issues with her husband. Yeah. But like,

I think that he's feeling some stress about it, but, but like she's having a great time. Right. And like the idea, and this is just an idea, but I would be really careful of pursuing it because I wouldn't want to mess, mess up her relationship.

But like the idea of like meeting it up and, and being with her and her husband, like, sure. Yeah, why not, right? But yeah, but that I'm nervous because I don't want to end up in the middle of, you know, damaging someone else's relationship. Right. And you're looking for your own, right? Let me ask you this.

And then we're going to wrap it up. Are you looking for a relationship now? Is that what you want? I mean, are you happy being like sort of single and doing your thing? Well, I would love a relationship because I think, well, I think that's the only thing I can, how, the only way I can get what I want. Like, you know, being a single guy. Like you said, it's hard to feel. find that couple, right? Or you want to have that woman because you like women. And then maybe

if you get the right woman, that's open to your stuff, you could bring that third person in, which would be the guy. Yeah. Right. Well, that's cool. I think you could find that for sure. I hope so. Yeah. And I do believe if you do, if you, listen, I had a kid much later in life and it was something that I always, I always knew that that's what I wanted. And I, to me, I live with no regrets. So it didn't matter how old I was. I wanted to have that kid because I didn't want to be on my deathbed and look back and say like, oh, I wish I did that. So to me, it's like, you know, and most people know, whether they do or they don't, you know, and I just feel like if there's a big part of you that does want kids, you know, you, I would say do it.

Because first of all, it was like the greatest thing I ever did and the most fulfilling and the most life changing. And like I said, to never have experience, it would have been a big regret for me. And I don't live that way. So if there is a part of you that wanted that, and it is a big part of you, like, you don't have to give up on that. There is no time clock. You don't have fucking eggs. You have sperm. They can make babies at, no, it's not funny.

It's the truth. It's science. You can make a baby at any age your sperm, okay? It's women whose clocks tick, okay? Not you. So you're fine. Like if you wind up with a 45-year-old woman and that's your partner, you're not going to probably have a baby with her. But if you wind up with a 37-year-old, you can't.

can. Your clock doesn't tick. Your sperm doesn't have like, you have like millions of sperm and they are created new all the time. Women are born with their eggs. So however old they are, their eggs are that old. Spirm is not like that. So it's very different. So I'm just saying my last thing to say to you is if there is a part of you that wants that. You know, put that on your list of things that you want and your next woman as well because you can have that as well. Yeah, and that's what I'm kind of looking for. I'm kind of working towards. But yeah, my issue now is just whether I'll be staying in Japan or we're heading back

to the States. Right. And you'll need to figure, right, but you'll need to figure out that before. And then whatever choice you make, then you, you know, you look for that woman there, you know. But I mean, listen, if you met somebody where you are now and you wanted to move to the states, maybe they'd be super happy to move to the states. I don't know.

But, you know, you got to figure out where you're going to be five years from now and then all the stuff will happen. But, you know, I'm curious to see when you meet that girl. I think it's amazing and great that you're in your 40s and you're ready to let your freak flag fly and you're being honest about what you're into. And you're not going to go into another relationship living a double life. You're going to, you know, be exactly who you are. And I think you will find that because that's what that's what you're ready for. I think that's how it works in life. I think so.

And that's kind of like what I'm looking for and kind of enjoying, you know, telling girls this and seeing their reaction and, you know, kind of exploring that. Right. But I'm curious of when you're going to find that girl that you also feel romantic with. Do you know what I mean? When you really bring those two sides together. I hope it happens soon. It can if that's what you want. I mean, you know that it exists.

but also it's kind of a cock sucking desert here in Japan and this this might sound terrible but it's the truth I don't like Japanese guys so maybe you should move to the states maybe that you could use that as a

you know but recently I'm kind of thinking about that but that's kind of not the best way to determine your future is where you can suck cock the most well you can factor in and pros and cons when you put both options in, you know, in front of you. Yeah. Yeah, it's not going to be top of your list. I'm going to go there for that because it's not going to be a huge part of your life,

but, you know, it definitely you could factor in it. Yeah, well, that's because it's still, you know, I mean, sex is a piece of the pie, right? Like, but I think that, you know, you want equal parts. If you have a family and you have a relationship and you have a career, like those other things you take into consideration. But, you know, if it. it's not a big place for you to live out your fantasy and you're finally coming into your own with it and you want to have a relationship where you're open to it like you I think that that could be a part of the reason why moving to the states is a little bit more favorable or help you with your decision making it's there's nothing wrong with that yeah we'll have to see yeah well you'll have to

keep me posted yeah okay and you know what I think that you'll um you'll really get a lot out of listening back to this episode there's something about here your story from a third person that you get even more out of. And people say that to me all the time. I actually even enjoy it. Because I go back and edit it, the podcast, right? So I listen to it totally over again. And it's always even more interesting listening to it outside of the conversation, you know.

And you're going to get, you're going to have that experience, you know. But keep me posted of when you do get into a new relationship or where you figure out where you are and stuff. Because I, I'd like to hear that story when you're on the other side because the, the church. transition that you're in right now is like super exciting, I think. And I think you're going to go from like the guy, the story about the guy who went from like, you know, keeping this whole separate life to integrating it and then winding up with a partner in his 40s that accepts it is like a really great story. Because a lot of people that are your age are never going to do that, you know? And how does that look when you're on the side? I don't know. You're going to have

to keep me posting and let me know. Yeah. There's one thing I wanted to kind of get into that. I never told anybody. Okay. I should say this. Oh, well, one thing, especially that kind of resonated with me when that guy said he liked being with men as a woman. Yeah. Uh-huh. I've always been, especially when I was younger, cute.

I mean, like, I got a lot of attention from girls and guys. But one thing I've always really, really self-conscious about was I kind of have this bigger bubble butt. Uh-huh. And kind of like wider hips. And I've always looked in the mirror and thought, just hated it because I thought it looked kind of more feminine. But like when I was in the bookstore, kind of like, you know, having those interactions with men, they loved it. Right. Because it was feminine.

Right. Uh-huh. To be honest, I kind of liked that. And even like to turn myself on like with my butt and kind of like because I, and but it's always been self-conscious and I hate it. Like when I look in the mirror, I wish I was kind of like that more kind of narrow hip kind of build. But being those interactions, I mean, it was kind of a real turn on seeing men react to that. Yeah. So you might have a little bit of that in you as well, which a lot of guys do.

I've had that on my show. Like I said, I remember the first time hearing it didn't. Not really understanding it, but finding it really fascinating. And then I got a lot of emails and then people called in whether they have the same thing. where and like you're saying like you know and I think sometimes it's hard for a guy to put that together and realize that's what they like right it's like and but there is that for you if I could change it I would like I would just love to have a different build to my body right but I am really turned on when guys respond to that right because you do have that thing in you where you like you

kind of have that thing that those other guys have had where you like to be more like the submissive role. I know what it is is I associate with the girl and find them so sexy and it kind of turns in on itself and I want to become the girl. Yeah. And kind of experience what they would be experiencing. Right. Uh-huh.

So, but yeah. But never told that to anybody that particular thing. But I think that when you meet the right person, the right girl and if she's accepting of all that other stuff, this will. naturally work its way into the conversation and into your relationship and she'd be fine with it. It just goes along with everything else. You know what I mean? And it's not that, it's not sort of like, oh, this doesn't fit in the puzzle. That part of it totally fits in the puzzle of your story. So I just, I think that that's, uh, something that you could tell your future girl too. Yeah. Okay. So should I,

or can I or like, should we keep, you know, text each other and kind of, Never text. I don't, never text. You send me an email. Email. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, keep me posted. I want to know, like I said, when you meet that girl and you put it all together, how old she is, are you going to, like where you're moving to? That's kind of stuff for sure. I love like, you know, I love hearing how a story goes along. And I sometimes have people on, you know, and depending on the updates, if there's enough for another whole episode. But yeah, definitely keep me posted. Wait, talk to somebody. I get invested in them and I like to see where these things go. I'm a people, I like find people interesting. That's why I do my show. Will you email and let me know when the episode will air? I will for sure.

Okay. Thanks so much for calling in and telling your story. And I'm excited for you. And I look forward to hearing like, you know, where you are six months from now. Keep me posted. Can, like, if I gave, let you attach my email so people could contact me if they want, if they kind of want to give me feedback or kind of like a. Sure.

Sure. You could do that. What's your email? Oh, you have it. No, what can you say it? You want me say it? I would like to do it here because what happens is if I put it in the episode notes, what happens is I can't post it on YouTube. Like they don't let you put emails or some shit like that. So like give it out now and I'll say in the intro that it's here. Do you want me read it? Yeah, read my email. Oh, and here. Okay. It's your email address. if anybody would like to get in contact with you is want and then the number two swing by the way at g-mail so w-a-n-t the number two as w-i-n-g-g-v-i-t-h-h-e-w-a-y-g-v-a-y-h-a-y-a-y-mall-com so it's really easy it's really really long but it's easy when you really think about it's want the number two swing by the way at g-mell dot com so if you want to get in touch with him and for whatever reason send him an email at that email address.

And like I said, I'll put that in the intro so people know to go back. But I can't put it in the description anymore because what happens is they get cock blocked. But where you could go and give out that information is the Reddit page or is the Reddit page where people go to talk about episodes and stuff. It's like talk strictly anonymous podcast. It's the Reddit page. Find that. You could go on there and like give your email address out and say you're willing to talk to people as well. So I'll put that out there.

Perfect. Okay. All right. Thanks so much, Jose. I enjoyed it. I'm glad. I'm glad. I liked your story. I'll let you know when to air it. Okay, bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly

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