Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 336 - Molly Loves Being an Escort

Episode Date: May 18, 2020

Molly (episodes #092, #190 #221) is still an escort and she's still totally enjoying it. Why did she become an escort? What does she do and what won't she do with her clients? And, how much money doe...s she charge/make? Tune in to find out plus hear all about where she meets the guys, how she stays safe, how her dating life has been going, her dvp (double vaginal penetration) experience, the worst customer experience she had which included unwanted "anal", the #1 reason why married guys seek her out and a whole lot more.    **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 That's the place where you could get the email to if you just want to email me about what you want on the Patreon page. Today I have a girl named Molly. Now, Molly has called him before. If you want to actually hear her other episodes, I'll put in all the numbers in the episode notes. Or you could go to YouTube and I have playlists on there. Molly has her own playlist. She started out on my podcast as a regular girl who just loved SEX. I mean, this girl did it all before she started charging for.
Starting point is 00:01:30 She's an escort now. She became an escort while I was talking to her. We taped a couple episodes and then she got into that and then we talked about it, how she started doing it on the last time I spoke with her and I was really curious of whether she's still doing it now or what was going on with her. So I reached out and she calls in with an update.
Starting point is 00:01:47 We talk a lot about her escorting, right? That's mostly all we talk about. I, of course, asked her her best story ever with a John as well as her worst story ever. And it turns out that her best story involved double penetration, which is interesting. But I like to ask people like those like, how much do you charge?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Where do you meet? Where do you do it? That kind of stuff. Like it's a lot of those kind of questions I ask. And the interesting thing about Molly is she like, like I said, she was a girl when she had first called in that was like really, really interested in sex. And I was kind of like, well, at one point
Starting point is 00:02:25 when we were talking like, why don't you just make money for it? Like it years, the type of, person that could be an escort and you would be doing something that you really enjoyed and she wound up going and doing that because it was something that she was thinking about and uh she does it legally of course it's not like i'm talking to somebody that's doing something illegal um it's her side job she does other things this is somebody that she even says that if you were sitting next her or if you knew her in her regular life you would never have any idea that she's doing this on the side she's doing it she enjoys it and she talks all about it um so i'm going to be right back on with
Starting point is 00:02:59 Molly. Oh, one more thing about Molly. When we hung up, I realized that the whole time we spoke all about her escorting, I forgot to ask her the most obvious question, which would be like, are you still doing it now that you're in quarantine, right? Because we taped during the quarantine, if you're listening to this a year from now. And she answered my question in an email and I said I'd include it in my intro, but what I'm just going to do because it's a lot easier is just include what she wrote back to me on my Instagram page. So you'd go to Instagram at Strict Anonymous. You'll see her answer to that question.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And then I also asked her if like she saw an increase or decrease in guys contacting her, right? Because I figured it could go either way, right? I didn't know the answer to that question. I asked her that as well afterwards. And she wrote back and told me the answer to that. So if you want to find out her answer to the quarantine questions, which I should have asked her, but thought of it after the fact, go to my Instagram, follow me. there at Strict Anonymous and you could read her reply so anyway I'm going to be back on with
Starting point is 00:04:02 Molly well thanks for having me I'm doing great how are you good I don't remember how long ago it was from the last time I talked to you and how many times were you on my show before three um looking back I think it was three and I think it's been around two years almost wow so there could be like some major updates I mean there were always updates like interesting updates when I talked to last time I spoke with you. The update was you had like taken my advice and done some escorting, prostituting, hooking. Like I don't know what you want to call it, right? But you got into that because you were a girl that was like down to fuck, really enjoyed it,
Starting point is 00:04:42 had like good times like screwing all these people. I mean, I remember one story and people are, I'm going to put all the information of your other episodes in the intro. So people will know where to go listen to them as well as on YouTube. have a specific playlist called Molly so you could listen to all of these ones but like this was a time it was before you started escorting where you told me you like you had this set up thing where you had gone to meet a booty call maybe it was like in Vegas and you like set up guys to just like being in the airport right and you were doing like dry buys or something crazy like that that I was yeah I forgot about that yeah I didn't so and I remember thinking like why don't you just get paid for it because
Starting point is 00:05:22 you just love to have sex so much and then the next time we spoke with you. you did set that up. I remember the one thing I remember about that is like you had a bunch of experiences. I remember there was like a really old man who fisted you. Like that was a part of your story. Yep. Yeah. That was my story.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That was what? That was my story. Yeah, that was your story. So these are all the things that people could listen to and go back. I think we left off with, that's where you were, right? You were single. You had been married and had all that kind of stuff right. previously or always in relationships, right?
Starting point is 00:05:57 It was like the first time you were single and you were really having fun. You were hooking up with guys, girls, you were old men, you were getting paid for it. You were like doing all kinds of stuff. So now what have you been doing in the past two years? Like pick up from the last time we spoke. Like you were doing that escorting, right? Is that what you would call yourself an escort? You were doing it in a place where it was legal, right?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Let's say that, right? Yes, yes. Okay. So take it from there. I started doing that about two years ago, and I've been doing it ever since. I mean, I'm still doing it. I'm still doing it. It's a full-fledged business for me. I really enjoy it. I, you know, when I started doing it, it really wasn't for the money. It was doing it because I was doing it anyways. So I might as well get paid for it.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And now, I mean, I make, you know, I probably work at the max eight days a month, and I make around $6,000 to $8,000 a month. How much is that a year? I try not to do the math, so I don't have to actually stare at it in the face. It's a lot. And it's all, you know, it's all profit, basically, you know, except for the hotel rooms. When I started, I did work for someone who helped me get into the business, which I really appreciated. Yeah. We sort of had a falling out.
Starting point is 00:07:20 About nine months into it, eight or nine months into it. eight or nine months into it. I think when we spoke, you had had that falling out, if I'm not correct. I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Okay. So you guys had a falling out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We just had different ways of going about business. She was more of quantity over quality. No, no, no, we definitely spoke about this. Did we? Okay. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. I remember that whole thing that you had your own way and you were looking at very different
Starting point is 00:07:47 than her. Yeah. Right. So maybe you hadn't sort of parted ways yet, but you were actually feeling not comfortable with it because you did have that difference. I remember it for sure. Yeah. And so that relationship ended. And then I took about a three-month break because I really didn't know how to start back up on my own again because she had access to all my accounts, all of my emails, the phone number, and I had no access to it. I didn't know anything,
Starting point is 00:08:14 like how to get into any of it. Then I found a way in and got all of my, you know, client information and all of my websites and everything. And so I started back up around about three months after that. It was January of last year, I think. And it was, you know, it was a tough go from the beginning just because I didn't know what I was doing and just kind of getting my feet wet. And then, but within a few months,
Starting point is 00:08:38 I was in full swing and I was good to go. But what did you do, hack into her system? I mean, how did you get access to all your stuff after it was like underlock and key by her? She had given me one of the passwords at the very beginning because one of the sites wouldn't let you pay if the site wasn't in your name. And she had put the site in my name. So she had to have me use my credit card.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And that was the only way that they would accept payment was if it wasn't my name. So she had given me the password. Well, I had never deleted that email. So I went back and I thought, like, I didn't even know it was there. I came across it about, you know, a month or two later. And it turned out she used the same password for every account. Oh, awesome. That's so funny. That's like most people. That was like,
Starting point is 00:09:21 why not try it? Or like it's like someone's dog's name. You know what I mean? You could always bust into people's accounts. Yeah. I mean, and when I got in, it was just like, you know, the sky opened up and the sunshine came down and it was, you know, birds were chirping and angels were singing. And I was like, it was everything, everything except for the phone number and the text messages, which was a, you know, a bit of a, it would have been a lot easier had I had that.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I didn't eventually get access to that, but I could do with what I had. But when you had that access, right, and you were in, what did you have access to, like, all your profiles of where you were sort of listed and the guys who had booked you and their information? Like, how did you start your business up again? Were you able to contact the Johns, quote unquote, that you had been seeing and that you had relationships with? Yes, because I got access to the email. and she only, you know, she just, that's how everybody got in contact with me was by the phone number or the email.
Starting point is 00:10:18 So it was about half of my clients and half of, you know, and that's all I really needed to start up. The other was just getting onto my profiles, updating my information, saying, hey, I'm working again and letting them see me and then contact me at the new email and phone number. And now when you were doing it with her, how much were you charging and how much was she getting? And then how did that change when you started on your own? she I was charging I think it was 200 for a half hour and 300 for an hour but and I gave her she took 40% um and that but she paid for all the hotels right which is a big expense yeah and then once I went on my own um you know it was 100% me um and it was just the hotel expenses that came out pretty much but let me ask you this if you're only charging if you're I mean do you have a an hour like a minimum three hour booking or something like that so that you at least know you're going to be covering your hotel costs and then some like I mean what kind of hotels do you go to and how much do they cost I'm just trying to do the math and I'm thinking like if you get a hotel for
Starting point is 00:11:23 200 bucks and you book an hour I mean you're making a hundred bucks um I've never paid over probably a hundred and twenty dollars a night for a hotel um I use I use like the the third party sites with the like hotels.com or something stuff like that yeah yeah yeah and i can get a four-star hotel for under a hundred bucks a night so as long as i have one client i can pretty much make my money back because now i charge 325 for an in-call and 350 for an out-call so as long as i have one one to two clients i'm making at least breaking even right and now do you will you book two people in a night because you have the room you want to get in like a couple people or is it like you strictly just have one person a night like what's the deal well that's the nice part about working
Starting point is 00:12:14 for yourself is it all depends on my mood if i want to have several a day or night i can if i just want one if i just want to at least make my money back take a break for a day and then you know i schedule my own appointments so yeah it's a lot easier when you just you know when it's it's your discretion what you want to do upselling going on when you're there Like, hey, you want anal, I could do that, but it's like $50 more or like if you want me to swallow. Like, I don't know. Is that how it goes down? I mean, how does it work?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Or is everything up front discussed up front? There's never really any discussion because over text messages and phone calls, there doesn't really have to be because everything's listed on my site. Okay. You know, everything that I do. And so everything comes with basically one price. Right. And what is everything that you do?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Like what do? don't do because I feel like you're probably do everything. Like maybe it's easier to say what you wouldn't do. Um, I don't do anal and I don't do gross stuff, which is basically, you don't do what I tell what stuff. Gross stuff. Like the like the like the bodily fluid stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that kind of no, I don't. I've been asked and I just say no because I don't do that. Right. Like the peeing, but like will you swallow? Um, I have. I don't do it often. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But I have. Do you use condoms when you give blow jobs or no? No, but I, but for full service, it's not a, it's not negotiable. I use condoms, period. Right, when you're having sex. So you don't do anal, you'll swallow once in a while. They could go down on you. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Mm-hmm. You go down on them. You have full sex. Now, do you do threesomes? Do you do women? I've actually never been asked. I figured I'd cross that bridge when I got there, but no one's ever asked me. I don't have it listed on my site, but I don't say that I don't do it.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You know, safety-wise, it's a little difficult. Unless I knew, you know, if the guy was a prior client, I probably would do a threesome then, you know, because two guys who I don't know, I don't really feel 100% comfortable. I love to do two guys, but, you know, it's just a safety thing, really. Yeah, but what about a couple? What about couples? I wouldn't mind it. I've just never been asked. Right. Okay. And now do you have basically, did a lot of the same Johns like still use you and you still see them? Do you still see that old guy? No, because I raised my rates $25 an hour and he threw a fit over that. And I don't negotiate my prices at all. So I stand firm. People constantly try to talk me down and I just don't text them back because I don't negotiate. my prices. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. And I'm like, it's $25. It's not a big deal. And he was getting a
Starting point is 00:15:07 discount prior when I was working for the other girl. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. So I just said, I don't negotiate my prices. And until you're willing to pay that, then I won't be seeing you. Plus, he kept telling me he loved me and that made me really uncomfortable. So I was okay with but you have like a minimum, like this is what I charge for an hour and it's a minimum two-hour booking or no? No, I'll do a half hour. It's 225, yeah, 225 for a half hour, 325 for an hour. I don't do out calls for less than an hour.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And out calls is when you go to their house? Yeah, yeah. And how is that? What's that experience? Like, has it ever been kind of weird? It hasn't, really. You know, I do background checks on everyone. So they have to go through a verification process,
Starting point is 00:15:55 and I don't have to get their information. And then I look them up. I look up their court records. I look up their Facebook. books. I look up everything that I possibly can get my hands on for information. It's a lot of work, but it's worth it. You know, so I don't do out calls to hotel or to anywhere after 10 o'clock. I don't do, I don't do, I usually only do alcohols to hotels. Right. Because they're safer, because I don't know what's going to be at someone's house. But, you know, depending on the background
Starting point is 00:16:25 check. And a lot of it, a lot of it is based on instinct. Right. Just how I feel about the person was contacting me. That's probably about 80% of it right there. And I'm assuming after a while, right, maybe if it's like a repeat customer and they maybe want to request, oh, now I know you, you know, we've met at this hotel a bunch of times, like would you mind coming to my house? And maybe if you know that person, like, does that make a difference too sometimes? Like, oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I've been to several of my client's houses. Right. After you've gotten to know them a little bit better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Right. Not straight off the bat. And how many like repeat guys do you have? Do you have like monthlies or? Probably I'd say around 75% of my clients are repeat. And now let me ask you this. And I'm sure you know because I feel like a lot of guys that go to escorts, like they sit around and talk with them afterwards, right?
Starting point is 00:17:23 So you probably know a lot about them. Yeah. Do you find that most of the guys are they single or they married? Like what do you find? is the reason for them. And, well, it would be two questions. Like, one, what's the ratio of married to single? And then two, what do you think is the reason why these guys are visiting you or using
Starting point is 00:17:42 you or whatever you would call it? I'd say about half and half, half married, half single, maybe a little more of the married side, I believe. And I do ask, what is the reason that, you know, you're here if you're married? And I get the same answer almost all of the time. It's that they've tried everything and their wife just doesn't want to have sex anymore. Right. And, you know, and I have a problem with the ones who utilize my services and their wives don't know about it and, like, are completely clueless, but they don't try.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Like, they're just doing it to cheat. It's the ones who have really, like, just are at their wits end and they're just like, their wives just won't budge. They just won't do it anymore. You know, one guy said, I got a blow job on my. my birthday. Woo-hoo. He was super excited about it. Because I can't imagine living life like that.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I'm driving insane. Yeah. But they were married for like so long, right? I mean, you know, like maybe after that long, how old are their wives? You know what I mean? And that's a big problem that happens, you know? Yeah. That's why I always say on my show.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Like, I mean, I could talk to a lot of guys who are cheaters, right, and have a lot of cheating, quote-unquote stories on my show. But it's like not all of them are you going to sit there after hearing their story and you're going to like be able to judge them and be like oh you're such a bad guy right sometimes when you hear the story it's like you're like so what is that person supposed to do right it doesn't mean that across the board like or that cheating's right or that it's you know or anything like that's you know or anything like that but a lot of times when you hear the whole story you might feel differently right and each cheating guy is not equivalent right there's some that are way worse than others right but
Starting point is 00:19:22 most exactly and then you have single guys right i mean are they typically like older or like like like uncomfortable guys like are they like not so attractive that they can't get women i mean what's what do you find with the single guys like what are they doing in the hotel with you with the single guys it's across the board it's all different you know a lot of them are traveling and are just you know bored or you know stuck in the hotel for work and just are looking for something to do and they don't know where to go and so you know why not um i let's see because let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, though. Like, you know, say there's like a guy. I remember when we were like when I was really young, one of my first jobs was working in a restaurant. I mean, I was like 16 years old and my boyfriend was the bartender. And he took like our bus boy and we brought him into the city like at the time because the bus boy was like a virgin, right? And he brought him into the city and paid for him to have a hooker. So he could like, I don't remember if the guy got laid or got a blowjob or whatever. But I mean, he was like a very unattractive, inexperienced, like super awkward guy. Right. that I just wonder, like, if you have to, if you're doing this right for a living,
Starting point is 00:20:33 would you, if, do you, when you're going and doing your intel on these guys, like if you see somebody that you just find, like, I don't know, physically, like, really not like your speed. Like, will you deny them or are you sort of down for anything? Like, I mean, how do you, what happens if you find someone that you're just like really not into? Um, I, you know, I don't really judge people. I really don't have, it's never been an issue really, like whether, because it's not about what they look like. It's about what I look like. It's not about what I want from them. It's about what they want from me.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Right. So it really doesn't, you know, I've never gotten anyone. Most of my clients, I do put that I enjoy the company of men 35 and older. So I don't really get the young, you know, virgin. I mean, I've had them, I had one contact me. I think he was like 22. and he was a virgin and he wanted to, you know, meet with an escort. Yeah. And I didn't feel comfortable with it because he was so young. Yeah. You know, and a lot of people my age, like have kids around that age. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I don't, but it's just, I just didn't feel right. You know, and he didn't really know where else to look. And so I kind of let him in the right direction. I was like, use these sites. These girls are more legit than the other ones. Try and find someone closer to your age. And he was really appreciative of that. But I just didn't.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I remember this about you. Like, you really, you really do, like, sort of helping people, right? Like, you really see it that way. My job is probably 50% therapist when it comes to these guys. So, you know, I've sat. I've had guys pay me for an extra hour just to sit and, like, ask for advice about, you know, what to do about the wife who doesn't want to have sex or, you know, if they want to do something different and their wife's not into it, like, how do they go about it or whatnot?
Starting point is 00:22:25 But yeah, it's a lot of, like it's a lot of talking. And I know a lot of girls who won't do that. Like I haven't considered the girlfriend experience because I do sit and talk with them. And, you know, when I first meet them, I'll at least take 15 minutes to get to know their name and, you know, whatever it is they want to tell me about them. I don't ask a lot of questions because that's not what I'm there for. If they want to tell me, I'm happy to sit there and listen. Right. But a lot of them do, right?
Starting point is 00:22:49 I'm sure of that. Yeah, a lot of them do. Yeah, that they want to talk. And that's probably why. And I remember I think that that's why you were doing very well, right, right from the get go. Yes. I get a lot of good reviews. A lot of people just say I'm really laid back and I'm easy to talk to.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And I give really good blow jobs. So that right there gets me a lot of clients. Now, do you have orgasms with these guys, like when you're having sex with them or when they're going down on you? Almost every time. That must really make a difference for them. Or maybe guys just don't know the difference. I don't know. but I have to believe that probably a lot of them are faking it when they're like doing it.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I don't know, right? I mean, I just think a lot. I would bet. I think a lot of them do. Yeah, I would bet and maybe I'm wrong, right, that most women that are in that business are doing it for the money, right? Like you said, you started off this conversation. I remember this about you that you don't do it for the money. You do it because you enjoy sex, right?
Starting point is 00:23:48 And that's just, you know, sort of a benefit of it. at this point, right, the way you have it said. Yeah. Yeah. But I think a lot of women, I would say the majority that are doing that are maybe doing it for the money, right? So there's that difference, right? And so are they having orgasms with the guy? Probably not. So I would think the fact that you're actually really coming with these guys and having orgasms and really liking the sex must make you like a really great lay for sure. Yeah. And they can tell the difference. Like, you know, I don't know if girls think that guys are really that stupid where they can't tell. I mean, physically, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:25 it's pretty obvious. You know, it's not just me like throwing my head back and moaning a couple times. Like, I mean, it's very, it's quite obvious to them that I'm not faking it. And I do get that, I get a lot of repeat customers because of that, you know, and if, if I'm not getting to that point, I will be like, okay, hey, do you mind if I break out one of my toys because it really helps me along and they want to see me enjoy myself like that's part of their enjoyment is yeah you know some them are like just wham-bang-bam thinking man and out the door like I get that that that's a lot of the reason why we're there um but the majority of them like like to see the the girl enjoying herself and that they're helping that happen and oh yeah listen to boost their ego it's about them as well that's
Starting point is 00:25:10 even absolutely them too right i mean it should make them feel like a man like i mean you know that's why even the girls that aren't doing it are faking it, you know what I mean? Because, you know, the guy wants that, for sure. Anybody wants that, I would think. That's a part of the turn-on a lot of times. But because you're actually really enjoying it and stuff. Like I said, like I've always said,
Starting point is 00:25:32 I think that sexiness isn't so much about the way that you look or the way that you dress. I mean, those things add to it for sure. But I think sexy is, like, mostly, like, people who like sex. Like, if you want to be sexy, just, like, fucking like sex. And, like, you'll just smell that shit from a mile away, right? You really like it. You enjoy it. Plus, like you said, you're not judgmental. It's not
Starting point is 00:25:54 like you're not coming from that place of like you're checking someone out or you have a type or whatever, right? You just really like sex and you're so open about it that you could get down and warning for anybody, right? Right. And that must really come through. Yeah. Yeah, it really does. You know, I get told all the time. That's why people come back is because I'm a genuine person. Like I don't fake anything. Like if I'm not enjoying myself, you know, if I'm feeling bored, I'll do something about it. I don't just go through the motions and give them what they want and then boot them out the door. Well, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:26:31 When you, because you say you're very strict about negotiating price and stuff. Are you strict with your time too? Like, I mean, because I think that must be like difficult, right? A guy pays for a half hour. You guys fool around and you're talking, right? Afterwards, I don't know. He comes really fast. You guys are having conversation.
Starting point is 00:26:45 It's really good. and now you have to be like, oh, time to go? Like, I mean, how strict are you with your boundaries for that? I'm really not that strict, and that's another reason I get repeat customers is because they call them clock watchers. Yeah. Like people, you know, girls who are like staring at the clock, like counting down the seconds until their time is up.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And that's why when I was working for someone, why we really didn't get along very well was because if they need an extra 10 minutes, you know, they're paying a good amount of money to finish. and if they need an extra 10 minutes to finish, I'm happy to give them that. That's not a big deal. It's 10 minutes. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:27:22 You know, they're paying me a lot of money. And she was like, no, one hour and they're out of the door. And I didn't agree with that. Right. And plus, like, give them a minute to shower or something. Yeah. How would she even know? I mean, would you go back and tell her?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Like, how did she know you were giving guys 10 extra minute? Because she would book me back to back for one thing, which I hated. And so if I was late for the next appointment, she would know why. or else and I always had to when they left I always had to text her right away that they were gone you know right so she oh she yeah she didn't always know but she did go almost a time no I get it and I feel like I remember stuff like this or that on that last call but did she ever get when that you got in and got yourself up and running again or oh I'm sure she did I mean it's not that hard to go online and I mean we're on some of the same sites we're just in different states right now
Starting point is 00:28:13 What about your personal life? Okay. So now you have this going. You were the type of person that was doing in this in your personal life, right? You hadn't had a long term. You had always had long-term relationships, right? This is the last we spoke. You were single, right?
Starting point is 00:28:26 But you were always had people in your life that you were with. There was like a good friend of yours, I remember, right? That was a booty call guy and he was like really cool with you and you guys were really close. Yeah. I think I was like, I wonder if you guys will ever wind up together, right? I think we might have had that conversation. But like what is you? I mean, if you're getting laid, you know, eight times a month with these guys, like, what does the rest of your month look like in your regular life?
Starting point is 00:28:52 Like, what is your due date? Do you have a significant other? What's going on with that? I work two other jobs when I'm home. And, you know, plus I have a kid who I have half the time. So when I'm home, I'm, you know, I'm a completely different person. You know, I just switch modes and go into the soccer mom kind of, you know, going to work every day kind of thing. So I don't...
Starting point is 00:29:15 Are you the one that works in like the school district or some shit like that? Um, partly. Partly, yeah. Okay. I am connected to a school district, but yeah. Yeah. You know, when I carry, you know, carry the briefcase and go to work and, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:29 if you saw me in my normal life, you would never guess that what I did, you know, on the weekends or whatever. So I just try, you know, I keep up the appearance and I don't mix the two. Like, I get a lot of phone. calls when I'm home. Guys don't, you know, I put on my sites when I'm available, but guys don't listen to that at all. I get calls anywhere from at noon to four in the morning to all times a day.
Starting point is 00:29:56 So, and I do, I don't like to ignore them because I, you know, these are people who want to book with me. So I want to, you know, keep them interested. So I do try them right back. But sometimes it's just near impossible to do that. But I don't really. I don't know. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I just don't have the time for it. And do you have the need? I mean, let me ask you this. Do you have the need? Or do you feel like this like fulfills like a part of you because you're getting your physical desires met? Yeah. You have little relationships with a whole bunch of guys, right? Like, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah, I have lots of friendships with guys. Yeah. So you have that intimacy. You know how you have some intimacy even if it's only for small amounts of time, right? And then you go back and you kind of like have your cake and eat it too. Yeah, that's true. And, you know, and I've tried dating a couple times and it just like, it's kind of ended in disaster, I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And only for the reason, well, they both ended up being married and lied to me about it. So I'm like, you know, this is what dating is like. I want no part of it. So I really haven't. That's weird, though. That's maybe a pattern for you. I don't know. Well, how did you not, like, how did you meet the guy?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Well, this is the thing about dating with you first. Let me just get to this. Then I want to hear the specifics about how you found out that they were both married. They didn't tell you. But like how, like when you go into a relationship with a guy or like in your mind, do you, do you see it like you would want them to know what you do? Or do you see yourself having a relationship with a guy and having this secret life on the side as an escort? And that, you know, and that's another part that's difficult.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Maybe that's why I shy away from it too much because I don't like to lie to people. I don't like lying. I don't like liars. So, but at the same time, I, you know, I don't want this to get out to people who it would affect their life, you know, like my family or whatnot. So, you know, I don't want to tell people, but at the same time, I don't want to lie about it. And that's the fence that I sit on constantly.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I have friends that do know about it. And it's not a big deal. I know they're not going to tell anyone. But, you know, let's say I do date someone and I do tell them. And then we break up and they are upset or angry and decide to tell everyone my secret. And it's just like, you know, I get worried. about that. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I think you're in a difficult position when it comes to dating. Now, those two guys that you dated, the ones that you have tried to date that ended disastrously, did you tell either one of them? One of the guys that I was dating, I had met about four, I think about four years ago. And I think we met on AFF. And we met like adult friend finder. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:36 So we met on there. We went out, I think, once or twice. and then we just never really talked again, which isn't a big deal, like a lot of the guys I meet on that site. And then I get a text message on my work phone number about a month or so ago. And it was someone who knew who I was and had, you know, was like, oh, I see you're doing this now. Like I hope you're not being run by somebody. I hope you're doing this independently and whatnot. Oh, he saw you on the website.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah. And I don't show my, yeah, I don't show my face or anything. So I was like, who is this person and how do they know who I am? Like they knew my real name. And I just got really nervous. What was that? How did he know that it was you? He recognized my pictures.
Starting point is 00:33:21 He's like, oh, I know those legs anywhere because I'm really tall. And I guess just the information. He knew the body. Through the information that I had on my site, he put two and two together. So I wrote him back and I was like, who is this? And how do you know who I am? And he sent a picture of himself. And I was like, oh, okay, I know him.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And then so he was like, hey, want to go out and, you know, have coffee or something. And so I met up with him. And we hug out a couple times, probably like four or five times. And then he canceled on me on like a Sunday night. And there was something odd about it. And so when I saw him the next day, I was like, yeah, that usually only happens. Like cancellation at the last minute like that usually only happens when the wife decides not to go out of town.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And I was just suspicious of it. I didn't know for sure. And he was just like, oh, I don't have anything to hide. And it just kind of got upset. with me and I'm like, you know, that's the be, it was, I mean, the behavior of someone who's trying to hide that they're married, he, every single, you know, he was like the poster child. Like all the different. It was, you know, right. All his excuses were so cliche. Like it was so cliche. It was very, very much so. And so I, he had shown me his ID. It's like, you want to see my
Starting point is 00:34:33 idea. And so I, you know, he had a common name. So it wasn't something I could just, you know, look up and know who he was. So, you know, I saw the address. And so I looked at the address and I was like, oh, yeah, there he is. And there's his wife. Wait, how did you know with the address? You mean you went and drove by and you saw him coming out? No, I just looked it up online.
Starting point is 00:34:51 So I was able to find out which, you know, John Smith, he was or whatever his name was. And, yeah, found out he was married and confronted him on it. And then he just kind of ignored it like, I never said anything. And then finally I was just like, look, like, you know, you're married, okay? I don't care. I fuck a lot of married guys. But the fact that you lied about it is what really bothers me. The worst part is that like when you go back and say that instead of him being like,
Starting point is 00:35:17 yeah, I am. Like he doubled down. Like you know what I mean? He totally like went even deeper into it. And it was like it turned it around on you, which that right now. Exactly. So now like not only are you married, you're a fucking liar and like it's worse actually, right?
Starting point is 00:35:32 Like you said like you fuck married guys. And it sounds like so ridiculous to say that. Right. like oh but you but it's almost worse that he's lying about it right right and yeah and then he was like well you know I thought we were just friends anyways like well because he goes I never I never said that I was married I go but I asked you about it you never said that you weren't so to me like you know don't try and spin this to where you know I'm the bad guy and I was just like this is just ridiculous like you he was trying to justify it because he never thought that you'd be down if he told you
Starting point is 00:36:04 the truth, right? Right. And whatever. But I mean, was he trying to date you and like have a relationship? And to that, to this day, I still don't really know because I was like, are you, were you just trying to get me to fuck you for free? Because you knew that I was an escort and you didn't want to pay for it. Like is, and so you acted like, you know, you wanted to date me. And so yeah. And he's like, well, no, I just wanted to be your friend. Like, and I'm like, okay, friends don't fuck every time. I mean, some do you, but at the same time, you know. No, that's bad. I mean, I can't stand that. I just had a guy on recently, and I was like, you want to, they were asking for, like,
Starting point is 00:36:39 advice on how to be, like, just a guy that girls want to fuck instead of a guy, a guy that girls want a relationship with. I said, if you want to do that, go and fuck the girl and leave. Don't text her every day. Don't take her out to dinner before. Don't cuddle with her after. Like, I mean, you know, because then eventually someone copse feelings. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's just sending mixed messages because what is all that other stuff? Then what's the difference between? And then it gets too confusing and then feelings get involved and you can't make logic. Like you can't put logic into feelings. You know, so it's like your actions have to go with your words, right? Yeah. So if you're having sex and you're texting every day and you're talking on the phone and you're going out to dinner and maybe you see a movie and Saturday night and your couch together and then you fuck like you're not like that's going to be confusing to somebody and you can't blame somebody for catching feelings, whether it's the guy or the girl in that situation. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:31 And then be like, oh, I just want to like be friends. But friends that fuck. And like, you know, it's like if you booty calls or just booty calls if that's what you want. And that's the best way to be sort of successful at them. Unless it's like an X that you could totally bang and hang out with as a friends, but you never have feelings because you've been there done that. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So now what was the other one that went disastrously wrong, the one that you said with the other guy that was married? Was that recent too? It was partially recent. And that one I wasn't expecting. anything out of. It was just something I had done outside of escorting. So, you know, it's, it's different when it's when someone's paying me than, you know, I just, it's not necessarily that there were feelings. It was just that I look at it from a different perspective. And I had met with him once. He was, I met him at work, actually. He was here on vacation. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:22 we spent three days together. And then he left. And then, you know, we spent time together. And then he left and then you know like I wasn't expecting anything from it at all because he didn't live here or anything but then I found out he was married and it was just like you know and I asked him specifically are you married and again he didn't say no but he didn't say yes you know so it's just like you know like if you wanted just a three-day fling every so often like just say that like I just don't understand you know it's like they got to hide the fact that they're married I don't know if they think I'm going to run and tell the wife or what I mean maybe some girls do and that's why they no they just want their game needed to and they don't think it's like a believable that you would buy into everything that they want if you knew you know but what what i think with you though is that why you you're finding these kind of guys and you know and it's not dating in general i think it's that because you are sort of unsure of what you want you know what i mean like yeah you get whatever like you sort of put out you get back right and i always tell like my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:39:27 this that are like really sweating a boyfriend but then a guy comes along and's like I don't want a relationship but I'll just fuck you and they're like okay well I'll just like bang him until I meet the guy that really wants really just like no you got to be clearer than that because if you're putting something out and saying I want this but then maybe I'll take this or that it gets too confusing and then what you start to get back in is like confusing people right people that are going to confuse you you know and I think with you because and I get why you're confused it's a hard position to be in right, to say like, oh, here I am. I'm going to do this escorting, but I really want a real relationship with a guy.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But I want to be honest, but I don't really think I could be honest. You know, you're kind of like the married guy that wants to go fuck a girl. And, you know, I mean, you're kind of no different than those guys, right? And what, like, in their confusion about to be honest, not to be honest, you know, it is a, it's a tough call, right? What do they, and you're like, what do you want? Like, why don't you just be honest? You know, someone could say the same thing to you in your scenario, right? And I think once you get that clear, if you ever really wanted a relationship, and that's
Starting point is 00:40:30 like what you really knew for sure, I think if you were really clear about it, how it was going to look for you, what you were going to do about it, like you were going to go in and be just fucking, I think you'd have to be honest about it. I think as the sort of real person, authentic person that you are, I don't think you could have a relationship with somebody unless you were ready and with somebody that you could be completely honest about what you were doing. Or you would give that up for that. that person. You know what I mean? It would be one or the other because I don't think you could do it as a
Starting point is 00:40:59 secret life and I don't. Oh, absolutely not. I could not do it as a secret life, you know, and that's a thing too is do I let them get to know me first and then tell them or do I just tell them off the bat and scare them away? You know, I don't. And I don't know how people are going to react. Some people think it's hot. Some people think it's terrible. Some people, you know, I never know what their thoughts are on the subject. But this is the deal. You can't like you can't, it's not like it's hard because you're actually fucking people, right? So if you waited in certain situations with other things, right? Like, you know, you might want to keep them under wraps until the person you know for sure really, really likes you. And then you spring it on them and then they can't walk, right? But with yours,
Starting point is 00:41:37 like if you're, you know, sort of being intimate with somebody and they're, they're being intimate with you and they think you're just with them and then you're like, oh, I have a secret. And it happens to involve the fact that you're fucking other people. I think that that's a problem. You know what I mean? It could be that it's not just that you had the secret. and you drop they might be okay with that but the fact that you were sleeping with other people and they didn't know that's a it's like sort of double edge sword in this situation with what you're just so i think you'd have to be up front and i think you'd have to meet somebody like that's into an alternative lifestyle that you could be up front maybe before you get into a relationship where you're completely monogamous you know but i think the sooner the better with somebody like you i think that there's people somebody for every one I think that there's guys out there that you could fall for that would be okay with what you do. You know, it's fewer than if you were doing it, right? But I do believe it exists.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I just think it would have to be, you would have to be really clear about what you want to. I don't get that. Like, that's really what you're looking for, that you're like, I'm sure you're super busy. You have a kid. You have all these jobs. You also have this, you know, profitable, what you call it, a career or a gig that you have. So on the side. Business is,
Starting point is 00:42:54 yeah. Business that you really are still enjoying, right? You know? Yes. So like, do you really want a relationship right now? I really don't. Like,
Starting point is 00:43:05 I'm perfectly content at where I am, you know. And it's a short, it's a business with a short shelf life, you know? I'm not going to be doing this for the rest of my life. You know, I'm not going to retire.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I am 41. Right. Okay. So, I mean, I'm already, you know, past the prime age of,
Starting point is 00:43:22 but I get, a lot of clients because of my age. Yeah, but nowadays, 40, 41, I'll tell you as a woman who's 51, I remember when I was 41, and I think I was banging a 25-year-old, like, I was like, you know, that I met at the gym. Jim from the gym for the G-Y-M, that was the name. But, like, you know, it was like sort of a booty call situation. I never would have dated him, but 41, 42, 43, 44, 44, 44. 45, 46, like, you know, you don't start really, it's not like what it used to be.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So, like, 41, you could still have, like, a killer body look great. You're just, you're hitting a sexual prime. Like, you're still really horny. Like, this is, you know, your last hurrah before you start losing hormones way down the line, you know. So it's like, 41 to me is still a spring chicken. Like, you know, as far as, like, I don't think you're pushing it. I think, you know, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, there was a difference. I think their stigma still slightly exists, but if you look at women that are 41,
Starting point is 00:44:29 it just, they don't look like what you used to think anymore. You know what I mean? It's like more women look still great at 41. Yeah, I just met an escort who she is retiring at 60. She's been in the business since she was 19. And I mean, you could bounce a quarter off her ass. She looks no older than 50. Right. She takes good care of herself. She takes great care of herself. And she's very popular she still books you know she was booking clients up until the day she she retired very well like when i had met her um i said you know i mentioned it to a couple of clients oh did you know she's retiring and all of them were like really like they were all very disappointed because they all knew her and they all loved her so and was her maybe like i'm 60 like people knew she was 60 like she had that
Starting point is 00:45:15 on her profile like maybe that no um what did she said she had that she had that she was around 50 like early 50s or something. But when I met her, she was like, no, I'm actually in my 60s. And I said I never would have guessed. And you couldn't believe it. Yeah, that's amazing. And now what do you say your ages? I mean, you're 41.
Starting point is 00:45:34 What do you say your ages on your profile? My profile state that I'm late 30s. I think it just says late 30s. But if people ask me, they all know, you know, everybody lies about their age or their weight or whatever. So a lot of guys know that I'm probably a couple of years older. If I'm asked, I'm honest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I will say, no, I'm 41. And they, oh, okay, like, nobody has a problem with it. You know, once you're over 35, it's just, you know, in an age bracket. You know, it just doesn't really make a difference exactly your age. A lot of people, a lot of guys like it, that I'm over 40. That's a reason a lot of guys book with me because the young girls are, you know, they're the clock watchers. They're the ones who are doing it for the money and they're, you know, they're not,
Starting point is 00:46:17 they don't have a lot of life experience. And a lot of these guys book me for the being the girlfriend experience to sit down and have a, you know, a chat with me. And I've been a lot of places and seen a lot of things and have, you know, I can carry a conversation. Yeah. And that's what they want. That's what they're looking for. You know, there are the guys who just want the 20-year-olds who, you know, to bang out in a half an hour and leave. And that's fine.
Starting point is 00:46:41 There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. But you probably don't meet those guys because I don't meet those guys. Yeah. Yeah, so there's something for everybody. Well, yeah, and that's, yeah, go on. Oh, and that's another thing, too, is there is a network with the girls, you know, in my area. And we, like, I don't have a problem when a guy books with another escort.
Starting point is 00:47:01 That's what we're there for. We're there because guys want the variety. Yeah. They want the choice and they want something different. And, you know, that's why we have this business. So I don't have a problem recommending other girls. I don't have a problem giving references to other girls. And we have a network to stay safe with the shutdown of the sites.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yeah, with the shutdown of the sites that happened a couple years ago. I mean, that was a huge blow to this industry, a massive blow. Yeah, because, you know, that's a lot of the ways, you know, we could verify clients and, you know, find out who they were. You know, it's a lot more secretive now because guys are a little more nervous because of, you know, there were raids on certain sites and they, you know, took all their computers and information. and these guys' information was in that computer. Yeah. And so they're nervous about telling anybody who they are. Well, we need to know who you are so we can stay safe.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So that's why, you know, we have this network between us, girls. And, I mean, I get girls emailing me for references at least two to three times a week. You know, because they see that you were with a guy before. And, I mean, it becomes that kind of way, like word of mouth. And so that and that's how they verify. And maybe you even do the same vice versa. Like when you have a guy and you see that he's been to another girl. Is that how it works?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Is that what? Yeah, well, but a lot of girls do. Like for me, they're like I, you know, for the verification process, you know, I asked certain information and if they're not willing to give that information, I'll ask for a provider reference, which means I need a girl that you've seen in the last three months that who can vouch that you've seen them and that, you know, that you're safe. And so they'll give two because usually one, you know, doesn't get back to you right away or not.
Starting point is 00:48:39 So I always ask for two and most girls do. And then, you know, I'll just email them. Here's the email they wrote me from or here's the phone number they texted me from. Do you know them and are they safe? And they'll write back yes or no. Right. So give me your hottest experience recently and then I want your worst. Um, like, or are there any guys that like you're really like, I mean, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:04 the really good story you gave me last time was the eight year old that you fisted you. Do you have a story like that? Like that was a good one. Well, I have one, but it's actually just, it was while I was. escorting, but it didn't happen as an escort. It's probably my best story. Yeah, let's hear it. I was, for some reason, it was when I was working for someone, and I don't know what
Starting point is 00:49:28 was going on, but my phone wasn't working right that night, so I wasn't getting any of her phone calls or text messages. So I was just sitting there in the hotel room, like, why am I not getting any clients? Like, this sucks. Like, I'm bored. And apparently she was trying to text me. They just weren't coming through. So I went on one of the lifestyle sites that I'm on.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And there was a posting by a guy who was in a hotel like a quarter of a mile down the road. And he was here on business and he was just looking for something to do. And I was like, you know, I wrote him and I was like, hey, I'm just like right down the road from you. There's a hotel bar. Why don't you meet me there? And he's like, yeah, sure. So I met him down at the bar and we were hanging out and they haven't, you know, I don't really drink. Like I'll have a drink here there.
Starting point is 00:50:11 but, you know, we were just sitting at the bar and there was this couple next to us and they were chatting with us and then they ended up leaving. And then this guy sat down. And so we were sitting there talking about being in the lifestyle and whatnot. We could tell he was, you know, listening to our conversation. Well, finally the bar was closing and we were getting up to leave and he's like, I'm going to go smoke a cigarette. And I go, well, I'm in room, you know, 524 if you want to come up. And he's like, it was, eyes got really big. And I was like, we'd like it if you, if you did. And so he's like, well, I'm going to go out and smoke a cigarette. I will, yeah, I'll come up. And so we got up to the room.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I'm like, what are the chances of him coming up here? And the guy was like, well, you know, it's either going to not show up or he's going to come up and, you know, chicken out, or he's going to come up and it's going to be awesome. And about five minutes later, there was a knock on the door. And he walked in and it was the most amazing, fucking half an hour of my entire life. Like I got deeped for the first time. And how was that? It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:13 It was super fun. I wish I could do it all the time. Right. It was a good time. I was like the only thing that that went wrong in the whole scenario was that I didn't get it on videotape. Right. Because you would love to be able to refer back to that shit. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:28 But you have an after picture. So you like anal because I know that you said you don't do anal like for your job, right? Like when you're doing it. But you do like anal in your personal life or you just liked it because that was like a double penetration thing? No. That was the two and one. Oh. Oh, when you say a double, when I'm thinking a DP, I think like up the ass and so wait.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Well, what's the name for it? I don't know. There is a name for it, but I can't remember what it is at the moment. So you didn't do like you didn't do double penetration. It was DVP is what it is. Oh, DVP. And that's two dicks in your pussy at the same time. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Oh, how could they even do that? Were they two big? Were they big, both of them, or small? They weren't small by any means, but they were both just average. I mean, it wasn't, right? I've seen some big fucking dicks in my life. Some very, yeah, wow. But yeah, they were average size.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Uh-huh. And they both put it in at the same time. Yep. Wow. Interesting. And now were they with each other at all? Because they obviously crossed swords where they were inside you, but they didn't, they weren't by or getting into it.
Starting point is 00:52:38 It was both sort of both with you. You were with both of them. Yeah. And I always have this argument with guys who are just so against threesomes because they're like, oh, another guy. Like, what if our swords crossed? I go, you know, the girl, the last thing in the world, the girl was thinking about is that.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like they're thinking about this is all about me, all the attention's on me, and that's all they care about. They're not thinking like, oh, no, what if they cross swords? They don't give a shit. No, but I think the guy cares. The guy cares. Yeah, they care. Maybe they care too.
Starting point is 00:53:08 because they worry about what it what somebody else would think about themselves maybe they care what they would think about themselves maybe they care because they might like it i mean who knows because guys are really paranoid about the crossing of swords right and i tell them like even if you cross swords i probably wouldn't even notice because i'd be like you know because to me it's that all the attention's on me and that's that's what a threesome with two guys and the girls for mine anyways my perspective is it's not about if anything happened it lasted like a half hour i yeah Half hour, 45 minutes maybe. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And it was like the best 45 minutes of your life. It was amazing, yeah. I'm sure they would say the same thing. Probably. I actually did run into one of them. I was at a lifestyle party in Vegas and he was there. Uh-huh. But we just chatted real quick because I think it was like the end of the night
Starting point is 00:53:56 and we were both going off to somewhere else. So it was just a quick chat. It was like, hey, how's it going? Remember me? You still go to those kinds of parties and those kinds of things. I mean, that's the kind of place where you're going to meet a guy that you could be when you are ready for relationship where you could be really honest about what you do you know what I mean if you yeah when you go to all the like because I'm assuming because
Starting point is 00:54:18 like that you still go to stuff like that and you're still involved in that world on some level not as much as I was just because like you know it's just a time issue if I'm you know if I'm down there you know in the big city working and I've tried to set things up with people but I never know what my schedule is going to be. Like I never know. I got people, you know, calling at the last minute. Hey, can you meet me in 20 minutes? You know, I have people who have booked a week in advance.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I have people canceling at the last minute. I just, you know, I never know. And I was, I try to put that first because like, you know, when I do say I don't, I'm not in this for the money. I'm not. But, you know, it's a nice perk. And of course. If I'm going to be having sex anyways, you know, I'm probably going to pick the one
Starting point is 00:55:04 where I'm getting paid for it over the one where, you know, I'm just meeting someone random and, you know, who knows who's going to be. I feel like I was the one who started you off on this thing. No, wasn't it me that said to you? Like, why don't you do that? Like, you should really consider it, right? It's come up in the past with a friend of mine where, like, we joked about it, but I never really thought anything would come of it. It was you. When you said it, I was like, oh, you know. It reminded you that you was something like, yeah, maybe this wouldn't be so bad. If other people are saying it, then maybe I should. Because, you know, when it was, you know, when it was, was just a friendly banter between my best friend and I, like, joking about it.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I wasn't taking it seriously. But when someone else, you know, like outside of my life says, hey, maybe you should do this. Oh, you know what? Maybe I should. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think what I love about talking to you is that, I mean, and I'm sure, like, I could, if I talk to 10 other escorts, you know, a lot of them might be doing it for the wrong reason.
Starting point is 00:56:02 There might be some darkness there. It's maybe, you know, it is what. a lot of people think like somebody sort of like that has low self-esteem and is doing it and being abused, right? Like I mean, people have a very negative sort of view on things, right? Right. But what I love about talking to you is that there's none of that in this story, right? So I think that that's important.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I mean, this is like something that you do by choice. This is something that you do that you, because you enjoy it. right I mean like it's really it doesn't have that kind of and and anytime you've ever and that's what I always thought was so interesting about you is all that kind of sex you were having and everything and what you were doing none of it ever seemed none of it ever had any sort of negative stuff attached to it and a lot of people like listen I was very promiscuous when I was younger but there was a lot of like baggage attached to my promiscuity do you know what I mean like in a negative way right and a lot of times you do have that.
Starting point is 00:57:06 But I think it's really wonderful to sort of talk to somebody to show that it's not, oh, that's not always the case, right? Right. And, you know, and there is a difference between a high class escort and like a prostitute where, you know, I've met the girls who are, you know, 19, 20, 21 and their heroin addicts. And, you know, they owe somebody money and they, you know, they came here with a guy and the guy bailed on them and they got stuck here and they didn't know what else to do. I mean, you know, those girls are a dime a dozen. They're all over the place. And you feel for them. I mean, there's people that advocate for them.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And it's a very, that's why they look very down on that profession, right? But like, you know, you're here to say, and I think you're an example that it, that's not, it's not a hundred percent of the women out there are in that category, you know. Right. You know, some of us, you know, we're, you know, I know one girl who just got her master's degree. and she owes no money. Right. You know, she has no student loans whatsoever. And she, you know, and she's starting her career.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And, you know, she's in her mid-30s. And she was just, you know, I just got my master's and I am debt-free. And now I'm going to go on and do the career that I wanted to. And she has no regrets about what she did. And why should she? Right. And I wanted to ask you, how has that extra income, which is very, you know, a really good amount that you've added into your life? Like, how has that changed your life?
Starting point is 00:58:33 it hasn't necessarily changed my life i don't you know i i i do shop a lot because i just it's a lot of down because i can because i can and there's a lot of downtime when you're in hotel you're sitting in a hotel room like waiting for the phone ring you become a consumer i become a consumer i just bought a fourteenth dollar couch did i need a fourteenth dollar couch no but i could afford a fourteen hundred dollar couch and i really wanted it but so i bought it and i have you know so what um I have $10,000 in savings, plus I have stocks. I have, you know, my car is almost paid off.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I mean, I'm comfortable. I'm comfortable. I'm not rich. I'm not poor. I'm comfortable. And I don't, it's one less thing that I have to worry about. Yeah, worry about exactly the money. And listen, you could double your income if you wanted to.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I mean, like you said, you do it eight times a month. So it's not, it's like you're, you don't need anything more than to be comfortable. It's not like who you are, right? You're not looking to have anything more than that, right? So you still have like the other things that are important in life, right? Something outside of that. You're not making that your whole thing and becoming like, you know, just to make a lot of money and then you have nothing else going on. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:46 And a lot of these girls, you know, they're on Twitter and they're on every day and they're updating their sites and they're, you know, it's their life. It's, you know, what they do where I'm like, you know, eight days a month, it's my life. The rest of my life, the rest of my time has spent, you know, other things. And I've had, you know, I've had guys be like, you need to raise your race. You need to, like, if you moved down here, you would be so successful. And I'm like, I don't want this to be my life. Like, it's just, it's an extra income thing that I do a couple times a month. Like, that's it.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And I want to keep it that way. Because if I was down there and I lived there and I was on Twitter every day with my face out there, everybody would know what I did. And like, I don't need that in my life. Like, I don't need the negativity. I don't care if people know. It's the negativity that I get back and like the judgment. And it's just, I don't need it.
Starting point is 01:00:32 So. Yeah, but that's why. I think it's important. Like I feel like if people really listen to this whole episode, right? And if they would sit down. And that's what this, my show is all about, really. I think sometimes when you really sit down and talk to somebody for a long time, right, you see a very different picture of something that maybe you thought about or that you judged, right?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Like somebody that would sit here and judge escort or and think of, you know, how they picture that person to be, right? If they listen to you, I feel like they would have a very different idea of that, right? and then they'd realize that, like, you can't just make these blanket statements and sort of think that everybody is a certain way. And that's what being detrimental is all about, right? Well, and that's what it is about, like, you know, the guys who cheat. Like some people, oh, he's cheating on his wife. He's, you know, and then there's, that's the blanket judgment. Well, if you sit down and talk to him, you know, I've had clients whose, their wife was going through cancer and, you know, can't do things.
Starting point is 01:01:24 And, like, they have the permission to go out and do something else as long as it's with an escort because they don't want someone to catch feelings. and you know and there's nothing wrong with that like you really don't think there's anything wrong with that you know but i mean there's people who think the complete opposite and just cheating cheating and it doesn't matter well but that's what i think when i think that they haven't heard the whole story or they don't it's like to me it's like lazy thinking you know you have to really get the whole story and i've said this before my show like i used to love talk shows when i was younger like and when i was younger it was like jenny jones and moripovitch yep and you know because i'm old and people would be talking and it would like really frustrate me because they'd have like a very short amount of time to
Starting point is 01:02:05 have these people on their stage and they'd have a man and a woman and like someone's cheating and everyone would be like boo and then they would like be like oh you're a terrible person and even like the host would like berate the guy and everyone would be on the other person's side and the woman was the victim or whoever was the other person was a victim and it's like you know they were never really sort of telling the whole story or they would just have somebody that broke up with someone and he would be booed or she would be and it was like you know that's like real life stuff that sort of happens and I think if you go deeper into stories like maybe you know you're you know somebody's not so terrible for doing something maybe someone's not such a victim as you thought they were you know it's like
Starting point is 01:02:41 yeah so much more than that and I just think that sometimes you know people though don't like to know that much because I think people get off on sort of being judgmental or putting other people down because it helps them think about themselves you know I don't know because listen in my life there's times when I do the same shit you know I just just look at a headline or whatever and make my ideas, you know. But that's not what my show is about sort of the antithesis of that. And that's what I've always, like I said, found interesting about Molly, right? And I can't wait for people to listen to your other episodes and hear all your stories because they'll hear like what I said I heard, which is like a girl who really loves sex.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I mean, guys just want to know that girls like you exist. I have to tell you. Right. And there's no crazy girl. like look you barely even drink you know what I mean you're not like a fucking train wreck doing this right it's like you said like I barely I don't like to drink it's not like you're doing this wasted you don't have to check out like you're fully aware of what you're doing you have your feet on the ground like this is your choice and you fucking really like it and uh you know and I think
Starting point is 01:03:48 that that's like the unicorn right that a lot of guys are looking for so I like I think one day when you eventually decide that you actually really want a relationship you'll absolutely find it but you know and I think right now the only reason why you're attracting the married guys is because you're not fully available so you're getting guys as available as you are yeah good point very good point yeah so don't you know don't it's not don't put dating down in general I think when you're ready you'll be fine and when you have that yearning in you but I think right now like you're completely fulfilled is there any I asked you for a bad story do you have you have any like like horrifying, funny, weird stories that happened recently before we go?
Starting point is 01:04:32 I had one that was, it was both horrifying and funny at the same time, which seems odd. But I had gotten an outcall to a hotel from a client who I had seen prior once before at the same hotel. He was, you know, he was there on business and I thought nothing of it. When I got there, he was acting different than he was before. I didn't, I know that he had taken a red eye. so he had had a long flight. I couldn't tell if he was maybe a little drunk or if maybe on some kind of pills or something, but I could tell something was a little off.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And he said something about how, oh, this time we're going to do it. I was like, do what, like as opposed to last time. He's like, you know what you promised me? And I go, I don't know what I promised you. And he's like made the insinuation of anal. And I was like, I don't, I never said that. He goes, yes, you did. You promised.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I go, I never said that because I would never say that. So I don't know where you're getting this from. And he was like, you know, basically said, you're, before you leave here, you're doing it no matter what. And I was, so I was in a situation of, you know, what do I do now? Do I scream and attract attention and get the cops here and we both get arrested? Or do I go along with it and, you know, feel absolutely miserable about myself? Like I don't, you know, and I didn't have much time to decide. So what I decided on was I said, okay, I'll do it for an extra hundred.
Starting point is 01:05:55 which I didn't even feel right about that. So he went. Okay. Yeah. So he went and got the extra hundred. And I was just like as I was walking into the bedroom, I was just had this sinking feeling. Like I just didn't feel right about it. Well, whatever he was on, thank God he was because of my acting skills must have been great because he had it in the, well, the right hole.
Starting point is 01:06:16 But to him, the wrong hole. No way. I just did the, I apparently am a great actress because that was the one time I faked it. So wait, he talked to you in the vast. But you pretended it was your ass. Yes. And you got the hundred bucks. I got the hundred bucks.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Did you just squeeze really tight to make it like feel like? Yeah. And I just made some strange noises. Like it hurt kind of thing. And afterwards when he got up, he looked at me and he goes, see, I told you you'd like it. And I've never wanted to punch someone in the face so bad. But I just wanted to get out of there as fast as I could, which I did. And that was when I was working for the girl.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And I called her up. I said blackball him right now never booked me with him again. And that was the last I've ever seen. He has tried to contact me in the last year or two and I just ignored him. Oh my God. What a douche. But how funny. You didn't have to punch him because you fucking made him look like such a loser.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I mean, because who's the loser in that story? I mean, he was so tight. He couldn't even tell the difference. Right. It's like so hilarious. And he paid extra. And he paid extra. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I made $100 off of it. So high five for you. That was the only time I've ever been in a situation that was very that was worrisome. You know, it wasn't necessarily dangerous, but it, you know, it could have been. Yeah, you don't know what he would have acted. You know what I mean? I had no idea. Yeah, because he was obviously high on something.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And that's probably why he was being such a dick and maybe he would have, you know, but it's because how did he not know? I think that, I mean, I don't know. I don't have a dick. I never, you know, but I think that there's a difference between, you know, anal, you know, but no, I have my funniest anal sex story, and I've said this before on my show, but people probably haven't heard it as like, so I had this guy, he was like super inexperienced a boyfriend that I had, and I was so horny for him. Like I would just, he had a getting it up problem.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I'd be like, just put it in soft and I'd get hard because I mean I would get off because it was, yeah, I was just so attracted to him. And so one day, like, we woke up in the morning and he was like spouting me from behind and I took his dick in the morning and I put it in my ass. And we had anal sex and then later like that day or maybe like three days later I was that and it's like one of his funniest stories to this day he still tells the story I said like so like you know do you like anal sex and he was like I don't know I never had it like oh my god like you just had it last night or yesterday like whatever yeah he had no I fucking idea that it was in my ass I mean I because we didn't talk about you know I just did it and it was like because I really like anal but he had no
Starting point is 01:08:54 idea. I was like, oh, my God. There you go. I guess I don't know some of the time. Well, just so you know, he's a big stoner. So maybe, you know, that's it has to do. Like if you're not really of your right mind, you don't know the difference. I don't know, but he didn't. So I guess, you know, I don't know. But how funny is that. So. Right. Yeah. So anyway, Molly, thank you so much for calling in. I am going to make. Thank you for having me again. Yeah. No, I love when you call in. Like I said, I think, you know, a lot of guys like to know about, like here from girls. Like, like you know, like you're from girls. Like, like, you they want to know that it girls like you exist I don't think you're in the majority I think you're a rare breed I don't think a lot of girls like you exist that's why you do well in your business that you do I hope a lot of people though listen to this podcast and I you know you change their mind of what they would think of you know what you do or what they would think of a girl that does what you do right and that they they they see it as different now having heard you yeah and they you every
Starting point is 01:09:54 Yeah, go on. Every individual is different. Everybody has a different story. Everybody has different relationships. Like you can't make blanket judgments about people, you know, until you know where they come, where they're coming from. And I tell that to people all the time. Yeah, you have to. That's what my show's all about. And so, you know, I'm going to, I recently posted all my stuff on YouTube. So I'm going to make a playlist of just Molly. So you'll be able to not only hear this one once I post this one up this week, I'll do probably this Sunday. I'll post all the. other ones up and make a playlist. So people listening to it on their podcast app, if they want to see all of your episodes
Starting point is 01:10:31 and find them in one place, go to YouTube, strictly anonymous, subscribe to me, and then go to the playlist section and you could see all of Molly's interviews. None of them are timely. Like, they could listen to any of them. And it's like, you know, if they want to hear sort of the you before you got into it, they could listen from the beginning. But each one is like, you know, it's kind of different and has a lot of interesting stories in there so you could hear listen to them at different times right like if they right oh yeah you
Starting point is 01:10:58 don't have to listen to them in order yeah it's not like other ones you do i had gang bang christine you got to listen to that one in order but for you they could just listen to all of your ones but you know each one was super interesting and they're all a little different um but you know they could all find them there i'll also put the information of your other ones in the intro so people could find them on their podcast apps if they don't want to go to youtube but good luck with everything. Thank you. I'm sure we'll talk to you again and stay safe and I'm glad that you're doing well. We'll do. Thanks so much for calling in again. Yeah, bye bye, bye, Molly. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lives of total strangers
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