Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 337 - Marilyn is Having an Affair with a Guy who is Into Kinky S-e-x

Episode Date: May 25, 2020

Marilyn is having an ongoing affair with an older guy who is into all kinds of kinky thing. Where did she meet this guy? How did the affair start? What kind of kinky things do they do together? Tune in to find out plus hear all about the reason she started cheating in the first place, how she found out her husband was cheating, who he was cheating with, the other time she cheated on him before they were married, how her new guy got her to swallow, try anal and has her into getting peed on as well as peeing on him and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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dot E. slash strictly anonymous podcast, but you can just find it by Googling link Trey Strictly Anonymous. Okay. Today I have been a girl named Marilyn.

Now I feel really bad. A lot of people have called in and taped episodes. They have so many episodes. Probably like, I don't know, I can't even count them. How many I have taped

that I haven't aired yet. People back in February. And I keep, and I'll always bump guys for girls because it's very rare that I get girls to call in. So sorry if you've, called into my show when you're waiting for your episode and you're being bumped again because I

had Molly on last week. Today I have on Marilyn. Marilyn called in to talk about a problem. She wanted advice. I was a little confused of what advice she was looking for because basically she's a girl who's been with her husband for a really long time and she's totally cheating on him. Like hardcore cheating, like not just cheating once or twice. Like she is in a full-fledged affair with another guy. Turns out that she wanted advice about whether, you know, she's going to wind up with that guy. instead of her husband because she's kind of been there, done that with her husband. And so we talk all about how she met this guy, how she started the affair. They do a lot of kinky things together, including peeing on each other.

And it's interesting to hear how that progressed, how it started and where they're going to go next with the peeing. But they've been peeing on each other. And we talk about all that. And then other things that he's got her to do. She never did anal. She does anal with him. She talks about all that kind of stuff.

But we also talk about like their history and their marriage. And it was interesting to me because in her email she made it seem like she's cheating for a certain reason. But then it came out that she was cheating because her husband had cheated on her before. And then there was more cheating before that. And so, you know, there's a lot more that I learned on the podcast when I spoke to her in length. And that's what I love about my show. And that's why I think you do have to talk to somebody more than just like, you know, 20 minutes because you get more information the more you ask someone questions, right? So it's a really

interesting story. She's funny to me. I like her story. She's super honest. That's one thing I really liked about her. Like when I asked her the hard question, she was just straight up honest. And I think her answers are very regular human being answered. They might seem like harsh or I don't know, crazy, but they're very real. And she's real and she's honest. And I'm going to be right back on with Maryland I'll be right by going Maryland how are you today I'm going well thank you so I know a lot of your story because you gave me the story in your email I you know I'll just sort of sum it up and then you'll get into the details um you basically have been cheating on your husband for the past well are you've been with your husband for the 17 16 17 years right and you've been cheating on him

for the past two years with a guy you really like right I mean you not only have great sex with him You also like other things about him and you're super happy with him. But the problem is, and I was wondering the whole time I was reading your email, like what his status was, right? Like you explained a lot of the details. And the last thing you said was what the problem is. He has a wife and kids. You know, I know that you did, right? And it turns out that he does too.

And that's keeping you guys from ultimately being together. Is that all correct? Yeah. Yep. pretty much. Why don't you explain the whole story? Like, because I know you said that right after you had kids, your relationship with your husband, you guys, like, kind of went your separate ways.

How long after would you, did you start after you had kids, did you start this affair with the guy? And how old are you guys right now, you and your husband? Um, we're in our mid 30s. Uh-huh. And, um. So you got married super young. Yeah.

Yeah. I did. I figured I've been with him for such a long time. Why not? And it seemed like right after that happened, things started changing. And then I found out he was cheating on me. Oh, you did. You didn't put that in the email.

You said something like, oh, he's probably cheating too because we barely have sex and I wouldn't even care. But before you even had, before you cheated, you found out he had cheated. Right. Oh, how did that all come about? That was after the kids? Yeah, that was after. Well, this was in like 2013, and I had my suspicions, and I just had a really weird feeling. And I asked him if he had anything to tell me.

He said no, but something just didn't feel right. What was he doing that made you suspicious? Just so that other women could hear the detail. You know, I think that it helps for other women to know that they're not going crazy. I mean, because you figured out that you were right. What was it that he was doing? I just, his whole like, okay, like he used to, we used to have sex. And then it, that started changing. And I noticed it. Like, he used to ask me and I would say, oh, I'm tired or, and I really was, you know, having kids is hard. Yeah, totally. Especially in the, in the beginning, like, you know,

when they're really super young. The last thing, I used to always make jokes because I'm a single mom, right? And I had a baby by myself. And I was like, I couldn't imagine at the end of a day after like, you know, when my baby was, you know, two years and under, like having to blow somebody after all the work I had done during the day. It's a lot of work. Yeah. It is a lot of work. And it's something that he didn't understand. So he would, he just suddenly stopped asking. Right. Which was rewarded to me. But I didn't think much of it. Then he started pulling doubles at work. He started coming home late. He started taking clothes to work with him. Oh, my God.

And, like, he was super obvious. And then I would ask him, like, why are you taking these clothes with you? And he would say, oh, I'm going to go out with the guys after or stuff like that. And I'm like, okay, whatever, you know. So one day I get this friend request from Facebook. and it was some guy that said he went to grammar school with me and I really had no idea. So I accepted him and then he said that he saw that I was married to a certain person. And he was going through the certain person's pictures and he saw his cousin's girlfriend on there.

Okay, what are you talking about? So he told me to find this girl and to go on her page. So I went on this girl's page and then I see my husband and her in a picture together, like holding each other. Oie. She had posted it on her page. She posted it up on her page. Interesting. I wonder who contacted you.

That was a fake-ass person contacting you. Well, he said that it was his cousin's girlfriend. It was his cousin's girlfriend. So he put two and two together. I just don't know. I mean, no, but it could have been her because she wanted you to know. It could have been her friend. They made up a phony profile and said this shit.

I mean, come on. Why would that guy? Guys don't care about stuff like that. And they don't typically rat out other guys. Like there is a brocode that is stronger than anything. Okay. Women don't have that, but men do. They don't rat out other guys.

There's no way that guy was going to bust up that scenario. That was probably her friend or her. And they wanted you to know because she was. catching feelings for him or something seriously because they work together yeah come on yeah so um it's bullshit why would that guy want you know so you found out did you confront him right away when you found the picture um i was actually at work when i found out and he was off so i was so pissed i got i left work because i just couldn't i couldn't wait of course um went home and i asked him again And I said, do you have something to tell me?

Has something been going on? And again, he denied it. And I said, are you sure? And he said, yes, I'm sure. And I'm like, okay. And then I showed him the picture. He got super white. He got so scared.

He didn't know what to say. Yeah. I just told him, you know, if you're not happy, you know, then go. I said we have kids, you know, you need to leave them. And he said it wasn't, nothing happened. That's what he said. And I said, bullshit. I know something happened.

happened and he denied it. He denied it. So this girl didn't know that I had found out. So I started messaging her from his phone. And I acted like I was him. And I just said, oh, my wife found out. And I tried to get a lot of information from her, you know, to see what really happened. And yeah, that's smart. She pretty much like said everything they did. Like I was like, you know, so what should I do? what should I say and she's like well just tell her you know that we fucked and that's it you know like basically she really didn't care no she wanted you I'm telling you I really believe like 95 percent sure it was her that messaged you on Facebook she wanted you to know she wanted your guy and she wanted you to know what girl okay if I'm fucking somebody's husband which I wouldn't do

but like if I'm fucking some guy and he's married and then the girl like he's 10 text me like what should I say to her she saw the picture I wouldn't say tell her you fucked me I'd say deny it it's just a picture of me and you in the in the picture why would I tell a guy like that's like the worst advice you could give she wanted you to know I'm telling you she did she did and I just I was so heartbroken and he saw and he admitted to it and he just he just said that He was sorry and it's just like he told her so much about me, like talking shit about me. And then she told me about it. Like we ended up meeting in a parking lot because I wanted to, I wanted to see who she was.

I wanted to. Okay. You know, why? You know, why? No, of course. You wanted answers. There's, I mean, sometimes I think that's a double ed short short because you could go and meet somebody and then it could be too much information and you can never get it out of your head. you know, but I understand wanting to know.

I did. And I wanted to see what you looked. I was just curious. I'm like, come on. I'm not bad looking, you know. Yeah, but I don't know. I think it's almost worse when she's like, because a lot of people think like,

oh, they're going to cheat and the person's going to be better looking, right? Yeah. I almost feel like it would be worse if the person's not as good looking as you because then it's almost, it's more baffling. And then you have that to add on to it. I don't know. I just think any kind of. all that stuff just makes it worse either way.

That's what happened. Yes. You know, I told you. She was just like, yeah. Like she was, I mean, I'm not saying it because she was ugly and I'm not saying that because she, you know, was with my husband. But she was just ugly and I couldn't believe it. Like I felt more hurt because. Told you.

See, I called it. I was not believe it. Like this, she had a body of like a teenager. she had nobody no no no tits no ass nothing and i'm like what you know i couldn't believe it like she looked like she was a teenager but it she was only like 25 or whatever you know maybe he has pedophile tendencies i don't know because i know like i started thinking about it you know like this girl looked like a little girl like right she was skinny and i just i couldn't believe it yeah i told you that that almost makes it worse because you're like what the fuck then it's like like i said it adds

not only are you devastated and hurt, it adds this whole confusing element to it. Because now you're like, why, like you said, like what the fuck? And now you have that to deal with on top of it. It's too much. Right. Mm-hmm. And let me ask you this because I didn't know when I called out, called her out for emailing you on Facebook.

Like I didn't know that you had actually met with her. Did you feel like when you met with her that maybe she was the one? Like, did you feel like there could have been, could I be right about that? that I still think that I am. You know what? I never really thought about it. I never thought. I mean, did she hate your guy?

Like when you met up with her, like, did she see? Because to me, like, what did she tell you when you met up? Like, how did that whole scenario go? Well, we parked in, I was in a parking lot. She met me at the parking lot with like two other friends. And I was by myself. How interesting, though, that she brings friends with her. What a fucking was.

She's fucking your husband And she can't I mean I kind of get it She must have felt like a piece of shit But the fact that she brought two friends And couldn't face you herself It's pretty much says a lot about her Yeah

I couldn't believe it either And I was just Maybe she thought you were gonna like beat her up or something I don't know Well I thought about it But then I'm like I'm not gonna get in trouble for her for this You know it's not worth it

Yeah of course you're a mom I mean that would be very Yeah, I had to go home. Right. Okay, so she's with two of your friends. How does the conversation go? Like, how does that conversation go? And what do her friends have to do with it? They were just sitting in the car and she got out of the car. And I got out of my car and I just basically told him like, I just want to know how many times you guys fucked.

And I want to know how serious it is. I said, because as you know, we have kids and he has a lot to lose. I said, you know, it's unfortunate that you fucked him. I said, but it is what it is, right? And she's like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. It was just one time and never happened again. And I said, that was bullshit. I said, you have pictures of him on your Facebook, so he meant something to you. Then she started talking shit about him.

Like, she started saying, oh, he's quick in bed. He just wanted one thing. Like, just. Yeah, she was angry at him. That's what I mean. Like, yeah. But she wouldn't be, she wouldn't. you know, I don't know.

I feel like she caught feelings for your guy. And now, and now she's mad at him because he is horrified that you found out and is trying to backtrack with you instead of leave you for her. Right. Do you know what I'm saying? And that's going to piss off the girl that's having the affair because she's in her mind thinking you're going to be together. Now, listen, you're the woman in the affair now. So you could kind of relate. do you know what I mean like if your guy that you're fucking now he's got a wife if she found out

and then he was like backtracking and throwing you under the bus and saying you don't mean anything to save his marriage it might piss you off right or hurt your feelings yeah I think so right I mean yeah if you're a girl it's just fucking a guy and it's it's and you don't have any feelings and you did it you would just feel bad but you wouldn't throw the guy under the bus so much like she did. You know, she obviously was very angry at him and you'd only be very angry at him if you really liked him. If not, she just feel bad and try.

And why, whose idea was it to meet up? And how did you start talking to her personally? I, after we, after I found out and I confronted him, I took his phone and I was messaging her, of course, like I had mentioned before. And I called her and I called her actually the next day. Okay. And I told her, I said, let's meet. I said, woman to woman.

I said, I want to meet. I want to see who he's been fucking. Yeah. And like nothing, she's like, okay. You know, I know I would have been like, no, you know, but she agreed to it. And she came with her two friends. So she's trashing your husband to you. Yeah.

Yeah. Right. She was. And she said that it was him. after her and I'm like whatever okay this is okay right so she um she said it she ended it wasn't going to happen again it didn't mean anything and that she had a man and she wasn't going to um she wasn't going to leave her man or anything and it was a mistake and I just said okay I need to know that that's for real I said because I need to figure out what I'm going to do with him

right and he said oh you could keep him you can stay with him I'm like of course that after you fucked him. Now I could keep him again. Right. And she said it wasn't like that. It was nothing that she expected that was going to happen. And I'm like, really? I said because from what he told me, he drove quite a distance to go to your house.

Like he told me everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, oh, well, I don't know. It's not true. You know, just like she didn't know. She just seemed really immature about it. Like I thought I was talking to some kids. Actually, the other scenario that it could be that I just realized and remembered is it could have been also just one of her friends that she was confiding in that was really judgey of her for doing it and couldn't keep her mouth shut and went behind her back and told you.

Do you know what I'm saying? Like it could have been it's either her telling you there's just no way it was that guy. I'm, that's what I. I mean, not that I think about it, you could be right, because it was too easy. And no guy would do that. That's like a weird guy that's aren't like girls like that. You know, it had to either been her or one of her friends that thought what she was doing was like really bad and wanted to blow it up. You know, somebody close to her, not that guy.

And someone had to have know you. I mean, for him to have seen the picture and then found you and said, I saw your guy and another person's, I just, uh-uh. So anyway, let's get back. because we have to talk all about your cheating too. So that all happens, right? And so obviously you take your husband back, right? How many years before you started cheating did that happen? Well, this was back in 2013.

And then I started 2017. Right, you met. So now how long did it take before you felt like you had forgotten about it? and was able to trust him again because I would assume that after that happens, you know, you're looking at his phone, you're thinking he's cheating on you, right? Or am I wrong?

Were you able to just forget about it and move on with your marriage? I always had that thought there. Yeah. Yeah. I still do, but at this point, like I said, I don't care. I really... Well, duh, you have another guy,

so it's easy to not care when you got a backup plan, okay? I mean, even before that, I kind of, like, I felt like it was whatever. Right. I mean, even though I took him back, things really changed, like, how I seen him. Right. I just felt like things weren't the same anymore. Right. So it wasn't really the kids that made things change.

It was his cheating. Right. Right. And maybe he cheated because the kids made your sex life change, right? so maybe it all does stem from the kids. But I mean, it was. Well, it was the kids because he says he tends to say that a lot. Like, we don't have sex anymore because of the kids.

Right. It's always the kids, the kids. Right. But listen, you guys were super young when you got married, right? So you're like in 2013 when he cheated on you. How old was he? How old was he? Yeah.

Um, he was. 20 something? No, that is 20 something. Yeah, you guys are in your early 20s. How many girls had he been with before you guys got married? Do you know his stats? Oh, well, according to him, he had many girls. Okay, but, you know, what is many?

20 or 100? Do you know? I couldn't really tell you. I mean... Because I just think, listen, at 20-something years old, you know, to hang your hat with one person. And then if that person still in your 20, is like not really into having sex.

And I could, listen, it's a type of situation in stories like this where you could feel for both parties, right? You understand why you, I understand why you didn't want to have sex. And but I also understand why he was frustrated as a really young guy who's super horny 24-7. It doesn't mean that he should cheat, right? No way. Like, I'm not, that's not what I'm saying. But him saying like, oh, it was because you weren't giving me sex or using,

it doesn't mean that that's not true. It's like probably if you didn't have kids and you, you, you, you're, you. he might have not gone and had that affair, but he was frustrated and all the stars aligned and that sort of was like a domino effect. Like I said, I don't think that that's the right thing to do, right? He should have come to you and spoke about it and there's a lot of other things someone should do when you hit that sort of crossroad or that bump in the road, right? But, you know, you a lot of times it does go in that direction, you know, because he's sexually frustrated and then you have this girl that's probably flirting or making herself available and you're working and

that's what happens, you know, when men and women are around each other. It happens a lot. Like I said, it's not right or wrong. I mean, it is wrong, right? It's not right. But it's understandable. And it's not like he just cheated. Because I wonder, do you think he ever cheated before that?

Like, was he a faithful guy before? I can't say yes, 100%. Right. Well, were you always faithful? Oh, God. What is um? Well, years like in 2008, you know, I did cheat on him. But he never found out.

Oh, my God. It doesn't care. Fucking hilarious. Okay. But he didn't know. He never found out about it. So it never happened. Yeah, but I know.

And everyone that's listening knows. And that's a part of the story. That is so hilarious. What a double standard. okay so you cheated on him in 2008 he cheated on you in 2013 and now you're cheating on him again and you're like he could be cheating on me and I don't care and maybe he is right but who did you cheat on him with in 2008 how old was I no no no not how old who did you cheat on him with oh with who yeah oh oh boy yeah no tell me oh boy his brother

his best friend who's cousin no no no no way okay okay no none of his friend nobody he knew okay no and it was just like one time just tell the story okay um i worked um in a department uh-huh and um he worked in the same department as me so you co-worker Sort of, yeah. I mean, we were in the same department, but we didn't work together. Uh-huh. Was he older? He was older.

Okay. He was older. Mm-hmm. Very old. Yeah, I was going to say, because I know that your guy now is like seven years older than you. And I'm assuming there's something about that. Yeah. How old was he?

Yeah, how old was he? He was 55. And how old were you? I was 20. early 20s I want to say okay and what attracted you to a 55 year old in your early 20s um he how he carried himself he was just he looked like a mean man with power and it was just like oh my god I love your honesty yeah and I just seen him and I tried to flirt with him but he didn't flirt back so now he's like he's creating the

chase for you. Yeah, exactly. So I attempted again to flirt. Then he kind of was flirting back and then finally I just gave him my number and I told him to call me. And he texted me and he told me he had to be professional. He had a family. He had a wife and I said, okay, I respect that. And that was it. Mm-hmm. And he made about two weeks later, he messaged me. I mean, I would see him, but we just said hi. Then he

messaged me and he said he would like to see me. And I said, okay, so after work, I went and I met him and we started talking. Then we became flirtatious with each other. And then after that, we agreed to meet somewhere. And then we made out, He kissed me and then we had sex. In the car? Yes. Yeah, a lot of cheating sex happens in cars. And his working car, yeah.

Okay. And it only happened once with him? It did. How come? I, I don't know. I felt kind of weird about it. I'm not going to say it felt bad. I mean, it was actually really good.

but I couldn't. I felt really weird because him being really old and then, I don't know, it just felt like, it just felt really weird. Right. Okay. And now were you married or just dating your guy at the time? We weren't married yet. Right, but you were dating?

How long? Yeah. We had been together for four years. Okay. And did you feel guilty about him? Like, did you feel bad when, like? I did. I did.

Yeah. That was the first time and the only time you cheated before this guy? Yes. Okay. then when he cheats on you, do you think back to the fact that you cheated on him at all during that time? After I found out? Yeah. I mean, I wonder, like, do you ever, did, like, when you found out that he was cheating on you,

did you ever once for one second remember that you had cheated on him all those years ago? Not to say that it would make it right for him or right for you. I just wonder if you forgot when you're sitting there sort of. you know, looking at him like he's this terrible person in the relationship, you know, when you did it in your life, and it was with a co-worker, the same thing that happened with him. Yeah. Like I would think that maybe there'd be some kind of understanding or putting something together and you may be seeing it differently because you had been in his position.

Right. I know that the double standards exist that, like, oh, you know, you did it, but you don't somebody else to do like that's a normal human being behavior right to sort of say oh I did it but I don't want him to and that it's not going to make it right or anything it's of course you're still going to be mad but I just wonder if like you looked at the irony of it it's kind of like he did the same thing you did and right that's why that could have been one of the reasons that I took him back and I agreed that we would try to fix things and right but things never got fixed and then eventually you let's get to the point where you meet this guy right so things were not good

the sex never got better right while you're with him and then i would always like throughout the idea like let's go get a room you know let's go away for the weekend just us too and he would always be no you know me i can i got to work right you know i can't i'm like okay like he would he didn't want to make it he didn't want to make an effort i felt like right and did you always i mean being somebody that i was cheated on and because he stopped why not have sex with you and stuff did you i would think that that would trigger you to think that he was cheating again maybe because why isn't he interested in trying like where is he getting his sex from right and i it did cross my mind and i mean when we would have sex it felt just like it was us for him to just let one out you know it was

to actually to connect or right he barely even kissed me so it was like what is this you know yeah that's bad this is the reasons like every guy because there's a lot of guys listening right and it's really funny there's such a double standard because i have a lot of episodes where guys cheat on their girls but the episodes where the girls cheat on guys i get it get they get really like hilarious comments from guys on youtube and places you know guys really fucking hate girls that cheat. This is like, it's like,

you know what I'm saying? I mean, it goes both ways, right? Women look down on guys who cheat too, but it's just so funny, the guys, how much they're gonna fucking hate you listening to your way.

Do you know what I mean? But wait, what was I just saying? I just lost my train of thought. What did you just say before this? I was just, I was going someplace. Oh,

they're not, he didn't want to have sex with you anymore. It was just not, he was just not, Right. This is what I want to say and why I brought that up is because for guys that are listening, these are the kind of reasons why women cheat, right? Like he wasn't giving you what you needed as a woman, right? Just like what I said before about him. He's a young, 20-something year old guy. You're not giving him sex anymore because you're taking care of the babies. But he has his needs, right, as a guy. Your needs as a woman, it's not just the sex. Like you said, he would still. do it to you, but it didn't, there was no connection. There was no intimacy. You wanted to know that he wanted to be with you. And that's the stuff that women need. And you weren't getting that from your husband. And then all of a sudden, you go in for some training job, right? And boom,

you see this guy. Yes. Right. And let's start from there. Okay. So before I had, I was a stay-at-home mom, right about four years. And then I realized I wanted to do. something. I needed to work or get out the house. I needed to do something. So I started, I enrolled into a program, a paramedic program, or EMT. And I did the course for a few months, and then I had to do some ride-a-long time at a fire department. So I went to a fire department. And I was there for about a week. So on my last day, I met Jack. Right. And he was really nice. He was just super intimidating. Oh, super intimidating. Like I couldn't, but I liked it. Yeah, that's what you like. Think about it. The guy, the 50-year-old mean guy at your job that you liked to. Yeah. I didn't flirt with him. Right. I didn't

flirt with him and I don't feel like he flirted with me but he was taught he did try to talk to me like if I have he tried to give me advice within the right with what you were doing signing up for uh-huh so he just said whenever or if I ever needed help or if I had any questions to go and talk to him that he would be there and I said okay but I didn't like I was scared I was super nervous so I didn't right but you definitely had some sort of physical reaction for him immediately, right? Yes. But I didn't let that show.

I just stood away from him. So on the last day, before I left, he signed my paperwork that I needed for school, and he left his phone number and his email on the paper. And that was it. So like a few days later, I was still thinking about him. And I'm like, I'm going to email this. So I emailed him and I thanked him for his time and for his advice. And he emailed back and he said I was welcome and that I can call him or email him if I ever need anything or if I ever needed help.

And I said, okay. So I texted him and he texted back. So he had my number now. So we started texting here and there. It wasn't often. but then slowly the text became more often. We were just basically texting like every day. So it was innocent at first,

and then they slowly became flirtatious. But he was really, I don't know how to say it. Like he tried to be really professional. but still try to flirt. Uh-huh. It was really weird. Right. And I just wanted him to flirt with me, but it wasn't happening.

So, I don't know, one night we were texting back and forth. We agreed to meet and we met at a cafe. And we talked, we were there. Nothing happened. So we, after that, we texted. again and then he tells he texted me that he really wanted to kiss me so I'm like oh okay now we're getting somewhere finally so I told him that maybe we should meet again and we agreed to meet somewhere but this time we agreed to meet somewhere in private we did we met in private and I was

super super nervous I didn't know if I should I really really wanted to I was just I had all these thoughts in my mind like I can't I shouldn't but I did right I did so we met um we met at a hotel and I already knew what was going to happen yeah tough you meet out of a hotel yeah I mean I know we weren't meeting there just to kiss so we had sex and it was it was good I was just like wow I have to say cheating sex. I've talked about it before in my show. There's something about cheating sex that's,

it's rare that you hear people who cheat and they have like bad sex. I mean, it's always like the best fucking sex. Well, it was. Yeah. It was and then it just got better from there. Yeah.

And now when you guys, because you guys been banging for two years and I know that and we're going to get into the specifics of the things that you've done with him because you said like you've tried a lot of things with him that you haven't tried with other people, including he's peed on you. So I totally want to go into that. But all the times that you've met each other in the past two years, has it always been in hotels? Like, where do you typically meet up? Have you guys ever been really naughty and done it at each other's houses or, you know, cross those kind of lines? It's always in hotels. It's always in hotels. Okay. Yeah, he, it's never been at each other's

house. Now, I want to know that first time after you have sex with him, right? It's the first time that you're cheating on your husband after he cheated on you, but it's like years later and things weren't good between you guys. Did you feel guilty at all after the first time you did it? I did. Uh-huh. I really, really did. I was, I was like, what did I just do? Right. Why? And but I don't know what happened. Like, it just, I kept wanting more. Yeah, that's what happens. And then the more you do it, you don't feel guilty anymore, right? That goes away.

Oh, yeah. It definitely is enough. I don't feel it no more. No, I mean, one of the things he said in your email was like, I kind of want your advice, but please don't tell me to leave him because I'm very happy. It's true. Right. Let's get into all the like sex, the hot sex you've had with him.

So now you know, though, I mean, you know he's. too, right? And what's his deal with his wife? Like, what's their history? Why is he with you? Do you have any idea? Um, well, like he's told me, he says that she, um, basically it seems like they're together for the kids and he doesn't, he barely sees her because they both work a lot. Mm-hmm. And when he's home, she's not there and vice versa. Right. So they're very, they've grown apart too. It's not just like he doesn't have good sex with her. It's like they don't have a close relationship either intimately or emotionally. Right.

Right. Because that's because you guys aren't just having sex. I mean, you're like emotionally cheating as well. Yeah. Still, right? All those conversations and stuff is still happening with you guys all the time. Yeah. Right.

I mean, that's like a, that's like another relationship. I mean, there's different kinds of cheating, right? Some people are just going and they're fucking in hotel and they go back to their business, but with all the talking and everything, it's like you guys have developed way more than just a sexual relationship with each other. Right. We talk every single day, every day. Now, how do you do that?

And how do you guys keep this going while you have significant others? Where are those texts? Where are you talking to him? Where do you tell your husband you're going when you're cheating on him? What should guys look for for the women? Oh, boy. I can't say that. Yes, you can.

No one knows who you are. Don't worry. Give it up. Like what are, answer those questions. I forget what I just asked you. Like, where, how are you doing it? Okay.

Well, we, majority of the time we text. It's mainly text and it's while I'm at home or I'm at work. Okay, but you have him as a different name in your phone. Like, how are you texting a guy constantly on your phone? phone. I'm sure you're texting him while your husband is sitting right next to you, right? I have him under his name. You do? I do. Now, I know that you said that, you know, you went into your husband's phone and was texting that girl. Does your husband have access to your phone if he wanted it

when you were sleeping? No. Is it locked and he doesn't know the password? No, he doesn't know. Do you ever get worried that like a text is going to pop up on your phone, you know, when your husband, when your phone is on the ground like are you super careful um well if i ever get a text it doesn't show up until i unlock my phone oh okay so you have it set that it doesn't show there's no banners for it or whatever right and he needs like my fingerprint or my password okay and he doesn't have that no okay so you're texting do you guys sext oh all the time okay do you send pictures all the time okay i know i mean i know i know people do that. I'm just wondering how like, because you just seem so lax about it.

I'm just surprised you haven't gotten busted, is what I'm saying. You have like a lot of nudie, like do you delete the pictures right after you send them to him? I mean, if your guy caught you on your phone, if he caught, looked into your phone, oh my God, the gold mine he would have. Well, here's a thing. My husband is

always gone. He's never home. Right. He basically comes home just to shower, to eat, and go to bed. Right. So it's just like you guys been together for so long. It's not like he's, it's even on his radar of what you're doing. But so the pictures that you take for him and everything, do you delete stuff or do you,

is it all on there? Like if I looked at your phone and found your phone and I knew your passcode and opened it, would I have like a year of dirty talk and pictures or do you delete your stuff? No, I don't delete them. They're there. Right. Yeah, you should delete your stuff. Seriously.

You just don't know. You just don't know. He might find out by accident. He might, it doesn't seem like either one of you is that concerned with each other, what's going on, right? It's just so laxed between the two of you as far as your relationship is with your husband. But he might find out by accident. I don't, and I don't know how that could happen, but, you know, you just want to be a little

bit more careful. You just seems, it seems very a little, I don't know, I'd be a little bit more scared. It's almost like, but you're, it's like you're not scared. Are you scared of getting caught? Would you be afraid of getting caught? Like, how do you feel about what you're doing currently? I know that you said that you're in the email to me that you're very happy. Um, I am.

Right. Now, do you wish that he would leave his wife? Oh, yeah. And now have you guys spoke about stuff like that with each other? I've told him a few times, but I don't want to seem like I'm this evil person. you know, like I want you to lead her and, you know, leave your kids. Like, I don't want him to do that either. I know he loves his kids.

He loves them. He does everything for them. And I wouldn't want, I wouldn't want to break that apart. Right. Of course. But you would, would you break that apart for yourself for him? At this point, I think I would because it, it just isn't working at home. Right.

You'd be happier with this guy. It's not like you have a happy relationship. Now, what did he say when you brought it up to him about, you know, you guys being together? Well, his kids are pretty young right now, and he says that they wouldn't understand. Right. He doesn't want to put them through a divorce. Right. He doesn't want to hurt them. But he seems so, to me, it seems like if this would ever, or if she would ever found out, it seems to me like he really wouldn't care.

He just cares about the kids. Right. So, I mean, that's his main concern. And I think that maybe once his kids understand, when they're a little bit older, maybe, something can happen, but I'm not counting on it. I'm just living day by day with this, you know, like. Yeah.

Before I had kids, I never really understood that. whole, oh, staying together for the kids. I'd always be like, oh, because I grew up with parents that didn't have a good relationship, and they're still together to this day, but I always wish that they would separate because to me it was just so toxic, what I saw, right? But when you have a child, right, I have a child now, and they're just so, all you want for them is to be happy. And I totally understand how hard it is for a parent to make the decision to divorce.

and because of your feelings for your child, right? Like, I just never understood that sort of stance before I had a child, right? But having one, I totally understand that. You know, you look at your kids and you think, like, you're just going to, like, devastate them by your decision. You know, it's more, it's not natural. Normally people, you know, you think about your children's feelings first before your own, right?

And not to say that it's wrong to do otherwise, you know, it just, but it just takes a lot, right? And I think people have to be pretty miserable. to do that because, right? Because it is hard for children. It is. I don't really try to imagine what it would be like. But, you know, like when he's at work and it's just me and my kids, we're happy.

Right. You know, we're just like happy. Me and my kids and we just enjoy our time being together, being there. And then it's like once he gets home, the kids act kind of different around him. him and I don't like that. Right. And so you'd be happier probably without him. Exactly.

I know I would. I know I can and I'm not just saying that because I have this other guy, even if I didn't have this other guy, I think I would be happy being by myself with my kids. Right. Because you are by yourself with your kids. It's like you've been everything that you guys had together has been sort of taken away, right, at this point? Pretty much.

Yeah. Let me, this is like a total. left turn, but could we go back to the peeing thing? Because I know you said that. Oh, sure. Yeah, let's talk about that. So I know you said that you lost your anal virginity to him, right? Like, you never did anal with your husband or did any kind. And you said like you swallowed, I think, with him? Like, you never swallowed with your husband? No. How come? I mean, did he not want you to or you just never wanted to, but you did with this guy? That really like grossed me out. I don't know. Uh-huh. I just felt like I couldn't. And I never had the desire to try. I never really. I just,

just felt like it was like, ew, you know. Yeah, huh, right. I think a lot of girls feel that way. I just, I couldn't see myself doing that. And then when I, when we would have sex, me and my husband, it was just like normal sex, you know. Missionary Vanilla. Yeah. And I was, you know, I, everything I'm doing now, I never knew about then.

And I can't believe that I'm actually doing it now. Yeah. But how did this guy get you to do it? Did you just, because the sex was so hot, did you just swallow with him because you wanted to? Did he ask you to? Like, I mean, how did it come up? He asked me to.

And I'm like, oh, fuck. All right. So I, the first time he asked me, I said I couldn't. I just, I needed to prepare myself for that. So he said okay, but that was fine. Yes. So the following time we met, I told him I was ready and I made sure that I had something to drink to wash it down with. Oh my God, so weird.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I told him I was ready. He was excited. I went down on him and he just came in my mouth and I just like swallowed it. I mean, I was grossed out, but it kind of felt I felt like I had accomplished something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

That's so funny. And it was probably super hot to him because, you know, you were all, you never had done that for anybody. You know, his ego, it must have really stroked his ego and gave him extra turn on, you know, for sure. Yeah. Oh, he liked it. Yeah. I think it just as especially because you had never done it before. Right.

Like, I couldn't even believe it. Mm-hmm. And so you swallow his jizz all the time now? Um, well, it's not. all the time. Like I take I've taken a break because we do other things and it's just like yeah you know how do you do it get into the anal um well I remember we were texting about it and I told him I had never done it and he pretty much said he liked to try it but whenever I was ready and so we met again and he had some lube and he made it very special and he made it very special and he made it very special

and it happened. And did you like it? I did. Right? It's good, right? It's not something that you want to do every time, right? I mean, I've always been a three-input girl, but it's not like you're going to do it every single time you see somebody or always, right?

But every now and then, if you do it and you're into it, it's really good. Yeah. Right? Oh, yeah, I've realized that. I know. I've learned that. So, um, So you guys do anal?

Yes. And you really like it. Have you ever brought any of the stuff home to like your husband or do you like, have you ever done anal with your husband now? I mean, no. No. Your sex still is just terrible with him and you've never tried other things or swallowed him.

No. No. What about the peeing thing? How did that come up? So the peeing, we were texting about it again and we agreed that we would try it. We weren't too, I mean, we were open to doing it, but it was something like, I don't know, it was kind of weird. Right. So we met and he said he was going to pee on me.

And I'm like, okay, that's fine. Yeah. So he pees on me, like on my shoulders, on my chest. And I found, it was like really, it was. was so hot. Like, I'm like, okay. Like, he was marking his territory, right? Oh, interesting. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Are you in a hotel room? Yes. Okay. On the bed, like it just got all over the sheets and stuff, left it for the the main? The first time it was in the shower. Okay. So in the first time he peed, you let him do it. It was in the shower. He peed all over your body. Yeah. And then he said he was going to pee inside me.

Oh. So we went to the bed and he peed inside me. How was that? Um, it felt good. I mean, it was, I mean, there's not really a feeling to it. Yeah. Just felt really warm. Yeah, I was going to say that's what I would assume it would feel like, because it's so hot,

pee, right? Is it pee hot? Yeah. I mean, it's like a tingling kind of. I mean, it wasn't bad. Right. And he wanted me to pee on him. eventually.

So I started peeing on him. And how did that? Like where would you pee on him? Like, paint that, tell that story specifically. Well, we started doing it in the shower.

Mm-hmm. And then. But where would you pee on him? Like, on his dick? Like on his, I don't know, in his mouth. Like, I mean,

well, the first couple times, it was on his dick. Okay. And he just like, he was like, mind blown he got so like turned on by that and then um like we started off slow right and then after that um actually like a few weeks ago when we met he he had the idea that i would pee on his neck

uh-huh so after he was eating me out um yeah he told me to sit on his neck and just to pee so i'm like okay So I did that and he, according to him, he said some of it went in his mouth. But he liked it and he was super turned on by that and he was like super, super turned on. Right. Which was really, like I never imagined I would do these things. Right. But like you say, they happen like the way you're explaining them a lot of the times is how it happens, right? I mean, you say in your email, oh, and we were peeing and having anal sex, but like you say in your email, oh, and we were peeing and having anal sex, but like, but like you say,

Like it's not like you just were having sex one day and he said pee on me and you did. It's like it was it was like a buildup and you started out slowly and first he peed on you. And I mean, he might have been a guy that always knew that he wanted you to pee in his mouth, but he probably didn't want to start there and tell you because he thought maybe you'd be freaked out. You know, so he was like, you know, or maybe he didn't even know. I don't know. It could go both ways, right? But a lot of times this is how people get into things.

It happens sort of slowly and there's a buildup and you do other things and it leads to something. And then you're in the heat of passion. and he's like, oh, I like pee in my mouth. Or it could have been that he always did, like I said, and he just, you know, has been guiding you there slowly. I don't know. But have you peed in his mouth yet? Not fully, but.

That's common. We plan on doing that, yeah. Why not? Yeah, I mean, you're so close. Yeah, might as well. Right. And does it turn you on to do that? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Right, because it's turning him on. right? Oh yeah. And anything else that you guys have got into that's really crazy that you've never done before? He bought me a vibrator

and I had never used on before. Really? Yeah. Right. Yeah. I couldn't even believe it. You know, I couldn't believe the things that this thing can make me feel. It was hilarious. And what I liked about it was that we used it. Well, he used it.

I mean, well, he helped me. Yeah. And it felt so good. And he wanted me to play with it. And he's just watching me. And that was like, I was super turned on by that. Right. So you'll like jerk off.

Like you'll masturbate with the vibrator while he's watching you. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And he'll watch me. Just recently, he let me put the toy in him. In his ass? Yeah. Uh-huh.

Oh, yeah. And I, he enjoyed that. Right. So it's just like, you know, it's always something different with him. Right. You're both, it's like interesting that you're both able. And in a weird way, it kind of makes sense sometimes. And it's sad but true that you both are able to do these things with each other as opposed to your significant others, the person that you should, you should be doing these things.

with but in a weird way it's it's like I think it's a more safe maybe you know with somebody that you're not totally with because I think the biggest fear with stuff like this is like will my partner think I'm crazy that I like this will they look at me different if they think I want them to pee on me right so it's hard to bring it into the that that real relationship because there's a fear of a lot of things that could happen besides all those great sex that you're having do you guys ever go on like dates or anything like that or are you only ever meeting for sex and just texting and talking all the time pretty much that's what it is right you never go outside of the hotel room no i mean we've had breakfast before i mean we've

but not like an actual date like going out somewhere right now what happens on holidays like do you are there ever like are there ever uh presence exchanged or cards or anything like that? No. Okay. So you keep it pretty much like a sexual relationship, but you have all this like talk. Is a lot of the talk that you have because you say you talk every single day is a lot is it, is it mostly sexting or is it just regular talk to? Um, it's a regular talk to.

It's not always about sex. Right. Okay. No. I mean, you don't know. I mean, a lot of times it could be just that because you're, you're having like a really hot affair, right? But with you guys, it is other stuff too.

And so where do you, I mean, where do you think you go from here? You're happy, right? You said. I mean, I don't know that there is any advice. My advice to you would be to be a little less lax about how you do things. I mean, who pays for these hotel rooms? He does. Okay, he does.

So really, you know, I would say delete your conversation with him every now and then. So you don't, it's not just all there. Because like if you guys have, I've heard different ways of people finding things out. You know, and sometimes an iPad is attached to a phone and a message pops up or there's an eye watch of it. Like, you know, a watch of it that happens. And, you know, I've just heard all kinds of stories. And sometimes people find out that people are cheating not because they go looking for it, but they find out by accident.

So, you know, I just be careful. God forbid you got in a car accident. And say you didn't even die, you just got taken to the hospital. And then your husband had to come and they gave him your belongings. And his, your phone is there. And I don't know. He gets in somehow. He sees that shit.

I would just be a little bit more careful. No, I'm really serious. Because you could be sloppy. One day your phone, I don't know, but it just, you know. and I don't know Does he Does he know that you have this person as your friend Do you ever talk about this person to him?

No Okay Because you know If he had your phone bill I don't know I just don't want you to get caught You don't want to get caught right No he doesn't pay my phone

I pay my phone And the phone bill It's under It's not under his name He has no access to it Right okay All right Well listen I

You know You're happy you're doing what you do you don't have any guilt right now right you would like to leave your husband for this guy but it sounds like this guy how old are his kids um they're under 10 yeah it sounds like he he ain't going anywhere anytime soon right and it's been two years if he hasn't changed his mind after two years you might have to wait i mean what is your future with this guy look like like what is would you want it to be like in five years he leads his wife or you're just happy to have your husband and you know eat your cake too with this guy well right now it's good it feels good

but eventually and as it is i i'm already starting to feel like i want more from him the guy yeah right that could be a problem yeah you know because i was going to going to ask you this before. Do you, do you ever get jealous about his wife in situations? Do you ever feel like on a holiday you wish he would do something for you? Or, you know, I mean, do you get anything on Valentine's Day from him? Or do you want something? Um, no, I mean, I don't get jealous. I mean, I do, I would like for him or like, it would be nice to be together during the holidays, but I understand and most of the times he's working for holidays like he'll tell me he's working because he works a lot right so it doesn't it doesn't really affect me and I don't get jealous because it seems like

there's nothing going on between them right you know for him to do or to like we've spent nights together what do you mean nights yeah like we stood together overnight and how does that happen well I mean I don't know what he says or what how he does it but he does it like there's no problem to it but how do you do it um i i'll say that i'm gonna spend the night of my friends or i'm gonna work or you work overnight you could tell you guy that you're working overnight and he believes you yeah you have a job that you could do that yeah and he's with the kids uh yeah okay and so what more would you want like when you say you want more from him, is it that you would want him, you feel like you're getting to the

point where you would, you want a real relationship with him and want to leave your husband to be with this guy? Yes. Yeah. What was the last time you brought it up to him that you felt that way? It's been maybe like a month that I brought it up to him. Oh, okay. So it wasn't a long time ago. I mean, you got to, you know, you don't want to ruin what you have right now. You can, you Because it's not like if you don't have something with him more, you don't, you're not going to throw out the whole relationship. Right. Right. So, you know, I would, I, you're going to have to wait because like a month ago, he talked about his kids not being old enough and he seemed like, or he told you straight up, like he wasn't ready to leave his wife at all.

So a month later, he's not going to feel any different. maybe a year or two years from now, he might feel a little bit different, but I, you know, I don't think that he's going to feel a little bit any different than he did a month ago, a month later. Right. And you don't want to put pressure on him, but I'm not saying that you don't have needs. I mean, you know, you're at the point where you're still happy and you're having great sex with him. And, you know, you're not going to leave him either, even if he doesn't leave his wife. So you just don't want to make him, you don't want to ruin what you have,

which is an affair. Right. You know, you might get to the point, though, that you might have to leave the situation because it's too frustrating or whatever, but you're not there yet. And since you're not, you don't want to ruin what you have

by putting pressure on him to leave when he's not ready. A lot of times, you know, I mean, do you ever see him talking to his wife or do you know anything about her? Have you ever, like, stalked his, like, social media and seen, looked for anything? I mean, what? Okay, so, um, I, I've met her.

What do you mean you've met her? Oh, boy. I've met her. I don't know how to say this without, like, giving it all the way. I mean, giving it away. Say it, and then if it sounds like something you give away, I'll edit it and tell you how to say it better. They kind of,

they kind of work together. And I, the person that I needed to ask for the ride-along time was her. Oh, okay. So you met her before you guys hooked up? Yes. Okay, but you never met her after.

After that, no. Okay. So the person that you had got the information and everything was her in the beginning. So you know her or you met her once. I've met her once. Mm-hmm. I seen her in person and she just hated me. I never met her and she's seeing me.

She didn't even say hello or introduce herself. Me being a student and her being a professional that she is. she just looked at me up and down and rolled her eyes and didn't talk to me and which is kind of weird. I'm like, okay, who's this lady, you know? Yeah, maybe she knew you were her husband's type. Well, I mean, maybe she's just not nice. Like maybe she's the bitch.

Well, from what I heard she was. Right. From what the police had told me was that she was and the other people there. Fine. Yeah. Right. But, I mean, I never seen her again. Mm-hmm.

The time that I was there or anything, she never, she never came to me or asked if I needed anything or. She was just a bitch, pretty much. Right. But does. And this was even before I had met him. Right. Before you hooked up with him.

Of course, right. Mm-hmm. But I'm just saying, like, have you ever looked more into their relationship as far as, because he says he never sees her. Do they still work together? That I don't know. He doesn't really talk about her. I mean, he did one time or a few times he did.

And he just said that she's always working. She's ever home. And she's probably doing the same thing that we're doing. Right. And that's how you feel about your husband. Right. Right. And does he ever ask questions about your husband?

Or you guys just don't really talk about it. just when you're together, you're together. He never asked me. Right. It's like he doesn't want to know. Mm-hmm. Because if he knows something, then it affects him in some way

that it'll, it could change things between us. Like if I, he just doesn't want to know nothing about my husband. Is that what he told you? Yeah. He prefers nothing to know. Right.

He doesn't, maybe he would feel bad. And what I know from him, or from how things are at home is because I ask, not because he just tells me. I'll ask about it. Yeah, yeah, that's why I was wondering if you would be curious. You know, I would think after two years all the time you talk, you know, after you have sex, you know, you just haven't talked.

Yeah. And conversation. Because, listen, there are some people who cheat and they're just cheating for the sex. And, you know, a guy is always going to say, or somebody that's in a cheating is always going to say the person at home is it's terrible and it's you know but when you're if you were there you know it sometimes it could be a very different situation because i'm talking to you i know for a fact that what you're telling him about your husband or what is going on with your husband is the truth because you're living it right

there's no relationship there there's not but sometimes somebody could be saying that to the person that they're sleeping with because they want that person that they're sleeping with to feel bad for them and sleep with them right but that might not be the case at home right they're just living a double life and when they're home, they're all nice to their partner and their partner thinks everything is fine, right? I don't really know with him. You probably know because you talk to him and you know him really well, you know, but that's why I asked if you ever like look at any social media or really go looking to see what's really going on in his relationship. I know what, like I said, I know what's going on in yours. I just wonder because you don't, you know, you never know. Yeah. I mean,

I'm pretty sure he, I mean, I feel pretty confident that he's telling me the truth. I feel like there's not really much happening for him at home with that. I mean, he has, he has these sex toys. He's like handcuffs, you know, things that we use, you know, he holds on to them. And like he doesn't really worry. He pays for the hotels. He uses his card. So it's like.

Yeah, he's crazy. So that's the other thing is like I was thinking before when I'm like, you know, don't be sloppy for you to get caught. I mean, but if he got caught and his wife knew and she found out it was you, like, she might tell your husband, like, you just don't know how this gets blown up. So I wonder how this ever ends. You know, there's different ways. Does it end five years down the line that you guys are with each other?

Does it end a year from now that, you know, his wife finds out and then it's all busted and he stays with her and you guys can't be together? Does your guy find out somehow? how and you know who knows i don't know but you know i don't think i have any advice to give you because i think that everything's fine right now if you want advice on how to get him to leave his wife like i think you just need time i think what he said is the truth right and you just have to listen to what he said and you have to wait for his kids to grow up you guys are just starting all this stuff together as far like sexually and it seems like it's he's probably just as happy to have you in his

life that you are for him because he's getting to do all this freaky stuff with you that he can't do with his wife right right i mean you're both have your cake and eat it too you're both you know you got your families at home that's intact it's not great but it doesn't matter that it's not great because you're doing this thing over there you know yeah so i mean what advice would you be looking for or what advice would you think you need it i like like the story. Trust me. I don't need you to need advice, okay? I just want to make sure that I'm not leaving anything out because everything

else he told me was fucking great. Well, I mean, if you have no advice, that could be a good thing because that means I'm not doing anything wrong. Well, you told, listen, I go by what somebody is looking for or ready for or want for me.

You said straight up to me. I, you know, don't tell me, you know, I was curious of what kind of advice you're looking for because you said, I don't want you to tell me not, but make sure you don't tell me not to be with him because I'm very happy. So I'm not going to tell you that because this is what you're doing, you know, and is it right? Is it wrong?

It's wrong. It was done to you. You know it was wrong. It's worse what you're doing because you're having, it's not just a one time cheating thing or, like, I mean, it's a two-year major affair. You won't feel guilty about it because you're past that, right? you felt guilty the first couple times, but if you don't feel those feelings or buy into them

or do what those feelings were telling you to do, which is like stop and you just keep going, you don't feel guilty anymore, right? Like you said, you just don't. That's just the way that it goes. So you're doing it. And the only way you'd ever feel guilty about it again

is if he actually found out, you would go back to those feelings. You would feel really bad. But, you know, then maybe it would lead to the end of your marriage. And that would probably be a good thing because you don't really have a marriage, you know? Yeah.

You guys aren't You're barely a couple I feel like I don't want to sound crazy But I feel like I'm So close with this other person That I feel guilty Being

With this guy that I live with Wow yeah No I that makes that's It is crazy sounding right But I bet you people feel that like that's that's like a legitimate feeling that you almost feel like you're cheating on the the guy that you're with with your husband right yeah yes right because you're closer with him you have a connection this is what could happen in relationships i think people listening to this besides

the entertainment purposes of a really good story i mean he heed he'd the warnings because stuff like this i think happens all the time and i mean you guys are all people who are cheating because some things your needs are not getting met at home your husband it was that his sexual needs weren't getting met you it's like your emotional needs weren't getting mad and maybe

a little sexual too like your guy wasn't getting you to try all these things this guy is and you have like this freak flag now that you know and this guy got you to do all these things and it's like the best sex ever you know but people should know that this is the kind of stuff that could really happen. You know, I don't know where this goes. I don't have any advice for you.

I would never tell you to stop. You know what you're doing is wrong, but you're happy and you're not happy. It's a, it's, if you're in a weird position. Is he cheat? Your guy could be cheating on you, like you said.

This guy's girl could be cheating on him, you know? You're not going to stop seeing him. I don't think he's going to leave his wife because he told you. You know, I think a lot of time guys won't leave. They'll leave for another girl, for sure. Most of the time they don't, like, get a divorce and just stay alone and, you know,

wash their own clothes. Like, guys aren't wired that way. You know what I like to stay where they're on. They'll just go cheat or whatever. And then when they have another girl, they'll move over. But it seems like he has that thing, the kid thing going. And that's not going to change. Right.

It's not. and there's nothing you could do about that. And like I said, I wouldn't harass him about it. So I would think he thinks status quo for as long as you can. And then bring it up again about him leaving or have that conversation. Like, does he ever think he would? What would the age be? Does he want to?

You know, because that's something that you feel for yourself. So eventually you're going to be honest with him again, you know? Yeah. But you're cheating on your husband. it's wrong, yeah, but you're not going to stop. So I'm not going to waste my time telling you that. Because what is what is what would be the alternative that you have to go to your husband and tell him and then you're going to break up or is it going to help your relationship? I don't know.

I mean, you guys shouldn't be, you shouldn't be married to your husband anymore. You don't even have a relationship with him. No. You know, you could get a divorce from your husband without being with this guy. And then what could happen was like you would, you know, the other story is you divorce your husband, regardless of this guy, right? You're still seeing him, but you divorce your husband just to be with your children like you said, which I think would be a good situation for you.

You're still super young. You could have a whole other life with somebody else or just with your kids, you know, fucking this guy on the side. But what would happen then is that you'd be available and you could start a new life and you would really like this guy, right? And you bring it up again. and if he still wasn't willing to leave, eventually you'd probably meet somebody else

that intimidated you, some another hot, cocky guy. You know, but maybe someone that's completely available because you're available at that moment and then you can have a relationship with that person. So you could have, you know, a relationship like you have now with this guy, but it be your primary relationship,

but it just might not be with him. But you could have that, but you'd have to get to divorce. And that would be the only advice. I would give you is like don't wait for this guy do what you need to do to make yourself happy regardless and I think you'd be happy to it would be beneficial for your kids for your husband for you probably to end that relationship because you're not going to work on it to make it better right it just seems like it fizzled out a long time ago you listen you've had a good run you guys have been with each other for a long time yeah you know

It's done. It's over. Yeah. It's like it's done and it's over. So before you leave that relationship with, you know, with shame because you cheated on him and you were doing that and he's going to call you a fucking whore and you're going to look like a, you know, and he's going to maybe hate you forever and it's going to be hard to co-parent with him. Why don't you leave with your held up high while you guys could still be friendly terms without him ever finding out what you've been doing behind his back? And then and then you're not doing anything wrong. And then like I said, you know, maybe this guy. He's never going to want to leave his kids until they're fucking 18 years old and they're out of the house. And you're probably not going to wait that long because you're young and you'll probably meet somebody else. Yeah, you're right. And you can.

You will be out. You have your whole life ahead of you. You're super young. You should do it. Yeah. I'll keep that in mind. Okay. Keep it in mind.

But if you ever get busted or anything else happens like major with this whole situation. Call me up for your part two. But I don't think anyone's getting busted anytime soon. I don't think it. I don't even think your guy cares. You know what I mean? He's involved in his own shit. What?

I said, I don't think anybody cares at this point. Yeah, I just don't. So I don't think you guys are anyone's getting busted. But if you do wind up filing divorce for something happens, you know, anything big, let me know. But thanks so much for calling in and showing this story.

I think it's super common. I think a lot of people are going to be really, be able to relate to them. in one way or another. And people who can't relate, like me, I'm not married, I can't relate, but it's still entertaining to hear. It was a good story, Marilyn. Well, thank you. Yeah, no, thank you.

Thanks for calling in. I'll let you know what I'm going to post it. It'll be soon, trust me. Okay, thank you. Thank you for having me. No problem. Bye. Thank you.

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