Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 340 - Tucker had a Long Term Kinky Affair that Eventually Led to Marriage

Episode Date: June 15, 2020

Tucker calls in to talk about his super long, kinky affair that eventually turned into marriage. How did he meet the woman he was having an affair with? How did they keep the affair from their spouses for so long? What kind of kinky things did they do with each other? Tune in for all the details which include his one night stand with his neighbor, the threesome he had with his friend and a total stranger they met in a bar, the threesomes him and his affair had with women, the cyber orgies they had with men, their ongoing 11 year relationship with a phone sex“buddy”, how they both eventually divorced and got married, how their spouses felt about and a whole lot more.   **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. Today I'm on a guy named Tucker. Now, Tucker has a cheating story gone right, I would say. This guy had an affair, and it was a hardcore affair. I mean, these people were together, him and the woman,

was cheating on his wife with for 15 years. And the shit that went down and the naughty things they did is cray cray if you ask me. I mean, they did a lot of things. The shit that they were doing behind their partner's backs and their partners really didn't know at first. I don't know. It was kind of crazy to me. They also wind up together in the end. I mean, this is a cheating story that is a beginning and middle and a happy ending. I mean, they're together. They've been married for three years. They had an affair for 15 years. And, like I said, the things that they did along the way were super naughty, interesting. I mean, it wasn't a clear path to them getting together and getting married. It was messy, but I think

that that's, you know, how real life works. And he gets into all those specifics. And they include other people, too. It wasn't like he just cheated with her. There was a couple of people he cheated on his wife with before her. And those were just crazy stories too. Like one with the neighbor, one It just was a girl in a bar that was like a, he double teamed her with his friend. And then there was a lot of stuff that goes on. There's other characters besides him and his wife and her and her husband and them together. You got to listen to it. So it's a long story, but it's an interesting one.

So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you doing? I'm doing good. So I was going through my emails trying to find your initial email.

And I don't know if there was one that was any longer than, you know, your confirmation with me for the scheduling. But basically, you had a really long affair with somebody and you wound up, like I guess you had a first wife. You were cheating on her with somebody. You had a full-fledged affair. And you wound up marrying that person, right? And you're together with that person. And then you said something about having an online phone, quote unquote, phone friend for 11 years. and you said we, so I'm assuming the woman that you're with now, you know, your wife now, I don't know.

You're going to have to get into the whole story. You'll explain that to me. Correct. Right. Okay. So wait, so now you were married once and now how did the whole affair start? Well, the affair, the long-term affair was about my third affair. But it's the only one that had any lasting time.

You know, the other ones were just, I guess, one-offs, really. Oh, you mean one-night stands or? I mean, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Just kind of short, short term. Maybe, you know, a little longer than one not staying, but short term.

Well, let me ask you this. How long, because you're 55 now, right? Is that correct? Yes. How long were you married to your first wife, the one that you left for this woman? 25 years. 25 years. So in the time that you were with her, you cheated on her twice before this woman, right?

In 25 years? Yes. And then now, okay, so you had like a couple people before this one. And then where did you meet the woman that you're with now? How did this the long-term affairs start? Just in the town where we lived, we lived in town. And I worked at a school, actually. And she did not work there, but was like there one day subbing for another teacher.

And I just took her kids into my class. then I took them back and I just started visiting with her. And it's one of those things I've always had where when I meet somebody, I either have instant chemistry with them or I don't. And if I do, it's like I've known them forever. And she was one of those people just instantly. I had chemistry with her like I'd known her a long time. And instantly we knew that there was some kind of spark there.

Well, if she was a substitute teacher, how did you keep that relationship? going in the beginning. So, you know, you see her that one time you have this instant connection. Is she subbing for a long time? Like, is she wind up in your school at your work every day for a while? No, it was just a very small town, very small. So, so once I met her, yeah, then you see them all over the place. Oh, I get it. It was not hard to see her after that. Okay, so once you met her there, you started seeing her out and about, and then you guys would continue to talk? Yeah, literally, I

chatted with her then, and I said something to her about, that's a time where Yahoo Messenger was kind of the big thing, you know, the way you talk to people. And I said something to her about it. I said, hey, if you had Yahoo Messenger, we could talk some. And she said, well, I don't have it. Why don't you

come by and help me hook it up? And so I literally, a few days later, went to her house and helped her get this Yahoo Messenger going. This was the first time you met her. her. You had that conversation. Now, how old were you at the time and how old was she? Wow. This was 50. This was, no, this was 18 years ago. Okay. However old I was 18 years ago. Right. And was she around your same age or was she younger than you?

No, she's the same age. Now, was she married at the time? I'm assuming not because she invite you over to her house. No, she, yes, she is. She was. She was. So she says, oh, come over to my house and hook it up and her husband's there? No, he wasn't there. There was some things that made it easy to do that. We had some children the same age, a couple of boys the same age, who were friends at school. Best friends at school. So it was easy to justify going over there or coming to me or whatever with the boys. You know, hey, I'm going to bring him over and drop him off, yada, yada, like that. No, but you said on the first time that you met her and you had this instant connection,

she was like, and you're like, hey, let's chat some more. And she's like, come to my house. I mean, did you know in that first conversation that you had these boys in common? You knew she was married. And then she and then you went over. But I'm not, I'm assuming when you went over, you went over to hook up her computer, not to drop off the kids, right? Well, but I took the kid with me.

because they're friends. So we just went over there and they play. We go upstairs to hook up this. Oh, okay, right, right. Just download Messenger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. So we download that, just kind of talk about how to do it.

And it was obvious there was that chemistry, you know. It was obvious. Right. It was obvious that she was like inviting you up to set up her Yahoo thing because she was interested in you and felt that same kind of chemistry that you were. feeling. Absolutely. And so before I left, you know, we hook it up, we get her a name. You know, I said, okay, this is my name, this is your name. When I get home later tonight, we can chat. And then as we're walking out, I stop and turn around to say something to her and she's right there. So I just kiss her. Oh my God. You work fast. Yeah. Well, I mean, you just knew it. I mean, it just, it was just

that deal. It wasn't a wonder if this would work. I mean, you just, I just knew it, you know. Yeah, but If you're married, right, and she's married and you live in a really small town, you'd think that there'd be a little bit more that goes on in your head before you, you know what I mean? Like, I understand that happening if you're both single and, you know what I mean? But, like, there was a lot of other things going on, and you're just, like, going for the kiss right off the bat. You know, I mean, it was a really instant thing.

Yeah, you would think, but. That's just not how it played out. Well, I suppose we didn't think it out well. No, I mean, listen, we already know the end of the story. Like, you guys have been together for a really long time, right? So obviously it was, quote, unquote, meant to be. It wasn't another one of your brief affairs or flings. I mean, did it feel different for you, considering that you had these other women that you had fooled around with?

Did it feel different? Like, did you have that same kind of instant connection with those other women that you slept with? Or was this different with her? I did have an instant connection with them, but not the long-term, like, draw to her like I did her. You know, I was, she was an addiction for me right from the beginning. This one. You know, I even, during the course of our 15-year affair, I moved to different town about three times, you know, and it just continued. Of course, in today's world with computers and cell phone.

you know, you never really get away from anybody. The affair lasted for 15 years? 15 years, yes. Yeah, now I remember that you put that down there. Yeah, that's crazy. And before you guys got together, because you're with her now, how long have you been separated and together? I've been divorced six years, and we've been married three years.

Right, wow. So, right, so look, that's the math. You said 18 years ago you met her. you guys start hooking up immediately. Now, all right, so let's go back to the beginning because I want to hear the whole story. So we're at the point where you lean in and you kiss her. She's down.

I mean, she doesn't push your way. She's down. You're down. And now where does it go from there? When's the next time that you guys hook up? I guess you guys go home and start talking on Yahoo! We go home and we start talking on the computer. Yeah.

And that lasts a long time that first day. Right. You know, that first night. We talk well into the night. I have a wife at the time who's a very good woman, very good wife, you know, not very adventurous, willing, always willing, you know, anytime I wanted to have sex, she was willing, but pretty, pretty normal. Vanilla, they say, yeah. And anytime I ever said anything different, you know, push the envelope, but she's like, no, you know, this is what we are, you know. So as I talked to this lady on the computer, she was in a similar situation.

You know, husband was the same as my wife. And we would just talk about that first night, different things that we would like to do in the work, you know, sexually in the world and stuff. And the things that she wanted to do. Like give me examples of like what she wanted and what you were looking for that you guys talked about that first night. Well, certainly being with other people besides just her husband was an interest to her. You know, she'd never been with anybody else. Right. She married the man.

She lost her virginity, too, that kind of thing. Right, right. Yeah. You know, she wanted to explore that a little bit. You know, she had some, you know, be with two guys' fantasy. You know, hey, I could be coerced to be with a woman fantasy, that kind of stuff. And all of that was appealing to me, you know. Of course.

I'm surprised that like she was able to feel so comfortable with you. Like, I mean, you basically, you know, just met, right? And she's telling you all these things about her. I mean, it could have like if it, you know, I don't know, it's like kind of ballsy. Because like you didn't know at that time that it was going to last long. You live in a small town. You're fucking married. And, you know, I don't know.

It could have gone wrong, you know. Yeah. Yeah. It really was just a thing immediately we just knew. It was so bizarre. You know, it was just like I had known her since I was a kid. Right. So there were, right. So maybe she wouldn't be doing that with somebody else, but there just was that thing. And I think I've experienced that before. And I've heard other people say that. So it just was a special, like all the stars aligned, right? And that's why this was just happening. Because it, I don't think it would typically work out that way. So quick, you know what I mean? So she's telling you she's into doing all this like other sexual stuff. You're of course down with it. And then what happens? I don't know that she's saying at that point she's willing to do it.

It's stuff she fantasizes about. Yeah. And and then after we talk, I mean, we talked for about an hour. So I can't remember. It's 18 years ago. Yeah. But we talk a while into the night, you know, everybody's asleep. Yeah.

And all of a sudden she just says, I got to go and she's gone. Yeah. And so in my mind, you know, he walked in and found her what she was doing. Yeah. So I didn't sleep a wink all night. I, like, sat by the door thinking, is he coming? You know, is he coming? Are we going to have, you know, a battle here tonight?

Uh-huh. And I was really paranoid, you know, for that whole night. And but nothing ever happened. And the next day, she called me and said, hey, do you want to let the boys, hang out. I'm like, sure, bring them out. I lived out of town. Out on a little farm, although I wasn't a farmer. It's just where I had a rent house. Yeah. And so the very next day, she brought her son out. Well, when she brought him, I was back away from the house behind a barn near a ditch, changing the oil in my car, my truck. Was your wife home? No, she was working.

She traveled with her job. Okay. So she was gone quite a bit. and so she comes and, you know, drops the boy off. They go in the house and start doing whatever. She walks all the way out of the round, which is probably 100 yards from the house. Right. You know, and she comes out there, comes around to the truck ram, and, you know, we start talking briefly. We start kissing briefly. We have sex standing beside the truck with the door open, you know, leaned into the truck.

Yeah. Just like that. First, you know, within 24 hours. And the boys are playing. Like she let the kid go. He's with your kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, wow.

Yeah, they're in the house. And this is daytime. Oh, yeah, middle of the day. And I literally was changing the oil. Right, right. Just like a porn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then she leaves, you know, she goes, okay, well, I got to go.

You know, and she hustles out of there. And I'm thinking, uh-oh. you know she's never obviously her husband didn't know or she wouldn't have came out there yeah but now you know like the the very first affair i ever had with a with a woman named kathy incidentally she uh as soon as it was over both of us were like what the hell have we done you know this can't happen anymore how come i just well she was a neighbor literally lived across the street from us oh my god you're very naughty yeah uh-huh oh kathy was and was she was she was she married? Yes. Okay. And was another one of those people. She came over to our house one day when she

first moved in, walked into the house to meet us, you know, just wanted to meet her neighbors. And instantly, I felt like I had known her for 10 years. You know, just our personalities were like that. And it didn't take that long before she and I hooked up. Right. And we had just had our first baby and he was young and sleeping in the bed with us and you know all that stuff and so um i was i was ready for some by that point you know yeah yeah and where did you and kathy do at that time that you did it that at her house at her house i was i was up late at night one night and i was uh you talk about balzy this is before cell phones yeah so i had a cordless phone Right.

And I'm just walking down the street outside of my house. Yeah. I call her on my cordless phone. Yeah, see how far you could leave your house and still get a reception. Uh-huh. Yeah, which anybody in my house could have picked it up. Of course, everybody should be it. Right.

And I start talking to her because I know her husband's out of town. Uh-huh. And we're just talking and I said, what are you doing? And she said, I'm just watching a movie in my room. And so I walk literally in her backyard and around and knock on her window. Oh my God She kind of screams And then she says

Is that you? I said yeah So she opens a window And she's watching porn Oh my God So I stand there Kind of talking to her for a minute And

And it was some ridiculous porn With like clowns on an island You know It was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen Yeah that's I've never heard of clown porn Yeah I don't know what that was about

Yeah But then she said Well just come in the house And so I went around to, you know, her back door, and she let me in. And we immediately went to the living room and, you know, started making it out and had sex. Right. You know, right there on her couch in her house. And then I got up and thought, oh, my God.

You know, I haven't been married, but a couple of years at that point, I had a newborn baby across the street. They're sleeping in the bed waiting for you. Oh, yeah. She's not some woman, you know, I met at the bar that I don't know where she lives or her name. She's literally right across the street. you know her husband, I'm assuming, right? I mean, didn't like him, but I knew him. Okay, yeah.

I mean, like, maybe it, like, would you, maybe you wouldn't have been able to do it if you really liked him. Maybe that, you know, helped, but you didn't like him. Yeah, maybe, maybe the woman I had to do fair with for 15 years. I loved her husband. He was fantastic. Yeah, we'll get into that. It didn't stop me.

So anyway, so, yeah. So right away, that one, uh, then we still had to kind of, you know, coexist after that. Right. And for the most part, we, we both agreed that was a boo-boo. There was one other incident where they literally invited us over to have a little cookout with them, which I tried to get out of. Right. The officer, they invited us, we have to go. And she calls me that and says, well, you come over and lock the grill because my husband's not here. And when I go over to light the grill, she's in her house naked, you know, and just says, hey, we got time.

He's not going to be home for a little bit. Right. She wants to do it again. She had that was all planned. No idea when he would be home. He was just off getting some food. Oh, my God. That's a naughty cheating sex.

That could be really hot sometimes, right? Unfortunately. Yeah. And later on, with my other one, there was all kinds of that. But with this one, I was like, no, you know, I lit the grivel and left, you know. Oh, you didn't fuck her? No, I didn't fuck her the second time. Oh, because you were like worried that her husband would come home or whatever?

Right, yeah, yeah, I was paranoid about it. Or my wife would wander over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. You know, and at that point, I was, I was, you know, I'd been married about three years. Right. And had a newborn child. I did not want out of my marriage, you know, I had no interest in that. So.

Right. Mm-hmm. And it was just. So that ended pretty quickly, you know. But then there was another one. That was, I'm assuming, the first one. That was the first one. The second one wasn't really an affair.

It was a one-off, and it was actually me and a buddy of mine. Yeah. Picked up a girl at a bar and took her out in the middle of some field somewhere. I don't even know where the hell we were, and we both, we both fucked her. Yeah. Another porn. That was a good one because I don't even know her name. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Just the girl in the bar. Was she hot? I mean, was she young? You know, it sounds like a good porno, right? I don't know. It's a, it's kind of an interest. It's a great story because we were in the bar. Yeah. And we had work to do. We had to literally, it was late at night, but we had work to do before morning. So I said, finally, we got to go, dude. We can't be here. Yeah. And as we're walking out, she's standing literally right by the door. So he stops and starts talking.

talking to her and then said, well, we got to go. And she goes, well, I got to go to. Will you give me a ride to my car? You know, that kind of thing. Yeah. So we get in, they get in the backseat. I start driving and I really want to go get to work because we got to get to work done. But I look back there and say, where's your car?

Well, she's blowing him at this point. Oh, my God. I mean, you just met her two minutes ago. Yes, yes. Yeah. So we drive around a little bit, and finally I thought, God, I might as well let him get this over. I told I got to go to the bathroom like crazy. So I find this open field, which is amazing.

It's like an open lot. Yeah, yeah. Because we're in the city. And I pull up into this field behind these trees and I get out to go to the bathroom. Well, while I do, they lock the doors. Okay. So I go back to try to get into the car. The door's locked.

Well, by now she's riding. she's on top of just riding. And I'm just standing there going, you have got to be kidding me. Yeah. Not only are we not getting our work done, but I'm locked out of the car while he's getting his groove on.

Right. So in a minute, I decide, you know, I'm going to go bang on the window or something. Well, by then he's got her kind of laid down, you know, traditional missionary. He's on top of her. And he opens the door. And I opened it.

And she looks at me and she goes, this ain't a gang bang. Right. It was more his idea to open the door. But she was like, no. Uh-huh. Yeah. She says, this ain't a gang bang. And I kind of laugh at her for a minute.

And he says, well, it could be just go ahead and suck his dick or something, you know. So I pull it out and she does. Oh, my God. And then he fucks her for a little bit. And then, you know, she gets up and comes out and I fuck her. And then, you know, we take her home and go back and don't get her work. done and get her asses chewed out the next morning, you know. Right, right. Wow. Yeah, that was. Did you ever see her again? I mean, in this small town? No, had no idea who she was. No, no clue.

This was a huge town. Right. This was like Dallas Fort Worth area. Oh, this is someplace else. Yes. This was before I moved to the small town. Oh, okay. So it was before Kathy. Yes. Okay. So that was before. No, no, no. This was after Kathy. Kathy. Kathy was in a bigger town. but was my neighbor. She was in the same big town. She was just my neighbor. Oh, you didn't move to the small town where you met the last girl until later, right? This is all before.

Right. Right. So you never, so you didn't see her. Yeah, that was a good story. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of crazy. Kind of crazy. Right.

So Kathy, you forget about. I mean, you stop. I mean, how long did you live across the street from her? She never tried again with you? Just those two times. And we did not live there that long. She moved away. they probably didn't live there six months before they moved away.

Oh, okay. Right. And so that kind of solved that problem for me. Right. Mm-hmm. So now let's get back to what are we going to call the woman that you're with now, like your third affair lady, like your wife now. What are we going to call her?

We got the Kathy. Let's get back to the, you know, the one year with her. Oh, yeah. Oh, sheena. Her name's Sheena. Okay, we'll call Sheena. So Sheena. So now let's get back to Sheena.

Where we're at and that story is you guys have sex. Now with Kathy, you felt. immediately bad right after you did it absolutely right with this girl woman after you have sex the first time how do you feel about it then i did not really feel bad about it because i was just enamored with her right you know i wanted to be around her you know i'm a little confused about how much you knew her before because like the way you said of the story is like you just met her she was subbing as a teacher but then it turns out your kids were really good friends so did you know her before and know the husband because of your kids and did your wife know her really well i mean how much did you know no no no we

were brand new to the town okay we had just moved there okay and so but the boys were in school together. Right. And so they had become friends at school. Yeah. So then after that, we just started, you know, then we started, you know, letting the boys hang out. And then as, as ridiculous as it sounds, we became couple friends. Right. I mean, well, because of the kids, right? I mean, you had to. Yes. Yeah. And we all became couple friends. And I liked her husband and she liked my wife, but it became obvious pretty early on in that that she and I were better friends than, you know, he and I were or she and my wife were. Right. Now, did it bother either one of them?

It bothered my wife, yes. Right. Her husband, I don't know, he was always very oblivious to it all. Mm-hmm. You know, he really was just oblivious to it all. So we did stuff as couples. We didn't usually do stuff like he and I didn't go do stuff individually. And they didn't go.

We just did stuff as couples. Right. So our friendship, my friendship with him was very couple oriented and not he and I. Now, but inside the couple, you know, visiting, he and I were good friends, had a lot of fun together, you know. Yeah, right. But he is also older than her. It was very easy in my mind to see him kind of as a father figure to her instead of a husband.

I had never seen him touch each other, you know, which which was kind of the, you know, the point of issues for her and her relationship. She's a very touchy, feely person, and he's not. He's a very hands-off. I don't like to touch anybody kind of person. And so she was starving for physical affection, just starving. Now, if I was talking to her, what would she say about you and your wife from her perspective, right? She's friends with your wife, right? Just like you're saying, right?

Like you could kind of look at it and say, hey, like, yeah, this guy's really nice, but I don't feel so bad because I could tell that like he's older and he's not giving her what she needs. What did she see looking into your relationship? Yeah, I think a lot of the same thing. Now, my wife wasn't older. We were the same age. and had a very good relationship other than, again, I was a very touchy-feely, hang out with you kind of person. My wife was, she wasn't as opposed to it as him, but she didn't need it. Right.

You know, I'm the kind of guy, you know, if we're sitting at home watching TV, I prefer to sit on the couch together. Right. You know, my ex-wife preferred to sit in the chair across the room, you know, because she wanted to read a book instead of watching, you know, the TV anyway. Right. And I hated that. You know, I hated that. And it's not that she wasn't touchy at all. Hell, up until the almost the week we divorced,

we would go to the movies and hold hands and stuff just out of almost friendship, really. Right. But I think she would tell you that same thing, you know, that I needed attention that she wouldn't provide. Right. So she, I mean, did you guys ever have conversations? Did she ever say like did either one of you ever feel bad at any point and think, oh, maybe we shouldn't do this because you guys were getting close as couples and you were getting to know the other person's partner?

Or was there never like a thought of that? No, there certainly was. For her, it happened fairly early in it. And it's been a long time ago. So time, you know, is lost on me. Of course. Within the first few months, I would say, in fact, my family was going on a trip out of town to visit some relatives. My wife's brother did it.

Well, I got out of going saying I had to do some work. And really, my reason for that was I want to spend time with the other girl. Right. But during that time, she was beginning to feel really bad about it. And after my family left to go cross country, she said, I can't do this anymore. Right. Because she was starting to become friends with your wife. Well, she just felt bad about it all.

Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. She's from that town, you know, I mean, she just said, you know, this, I have little kids. Yeah. You know, we both had small children. And she just said, I just can't do this, you know. And so my family went away for a week, you know, California, you know, which 1,500 miles away. Yeah. And so my plan was to spend all that time with her.

Well, now that wasn't happening. Right. You know. And pretty much that whole week. She did not see me. And it was horrible for me, you know, because I did not want it to end at that point. I was like, I was really getting into this. Yeah.

And so I spent the week alone while she did that. But it only lasted about that week for her. Mm-hmm. And then she came back and she said, okay, I don't care, you know. I just don't care. It's easier to deal with that guilt than it is not be together, you know. Now, where were you guys having sex? Well, at that point,

at that point we would just meet and you know go out in our car usually at night you know we would meet I live near the school so she would come out there sometimes to walk at the school and I would just meet her out there I mean we we'd have sex in the football stands you know and in cars I mean you know everywhere yeah you have to be creative that's where all the kind of that's where all cheating sex always happens. Oh yeah. Yeah, cemeteries. We had more sex and seminaries. You know, I've been in so many cemeteries. It's unbelievable. You're kidding. No, because I moved to cemetery, that's a thing. Oh, all the time, all the time. We would meet, once I moved to these different towns, we would find somewhere in between and cemeteries are always, you know, unoccupied.

Well, they're occupied, but not by people that care. Right, right, right. Or that would even be thinking. I mean, I would never be in a, and when, like, when you say in a cemetery, are you saying like in your car parked in the cemetery, right? Inside the car, right? Right. So you're never, I would never think, you know, you see a cemetery is full of like, not full, but like there's always a car in cemetery, just park there, right? So you would never think something about a car just being parked there, right?

So it is a smart move. Yeah. And sometimes we got hotel rooms. Uh-huh. And then, then we decided to open a business together. How did you pull that one off with your, I mean. Well, it was literally something I started doing a little bit first, and then she just started helping me with it.

Okay. So it kind of became a business that she and I shared, you know. Did your wife feel like a little worried about that? At this point, she wasn't. At this point, she didn't really think much of it. You know, it was a business. We needed the money. Yeah.

And it was a productive business more than I really wanted it to. You know, I wanted to do the business to, you know, do a little stuff there, but really it gave us a place to meet. Yeah. You know, opportunity to spend time together. But it turned into a bigger business than I wanted it to be, really. I ended up spending a lot of time having to do actual work at it. So, and we did that for about three years before I moved away. I lived there in that town for four years before we moved away.

Okay. And ultimately moved away because by that point, there were rumors all over town about us. No way. You know, people were talking about it. You spend too much time together. Well, we would go to bigger cities and people would see us. And that got harder to explain, you know, why. Wait a second.

What's so interesting to me is that, I mean, she had a husband. You had a wife. You guys were all friends. Now, all these rumors were swirling around. I mean, was your wife mental about it? Or was she like, and was her, what about her husband? I mean, didn't, how did they not know? Or did they know?

I mean, I don't understand. Her husband was pretty oblivious to it. He worked a lot and just, he was pretty oblivious to it. He was used to her kind of being gone, you know, doing stuff. And so he was kind of oblivious to it. My wife only brought it up occasionally. you know and she's a very calm person and only occasionally would she bring up you know i think you all are too good of friends you know she never really accused us at that point of having an

affair even though everybody else in the town was they there was just talk you know wasn't everybody but there was talk yeah we assumed you know we had this business together we were friends you know we didn't really tried to hide the fact that we were friends and hung out right so She could have chalked it up to the fact that people were just assuming that because you guys were friends because it wasn't like you were hiding that. Okay, that makes sense, right. And that was kind of our theory on it was, you know, if we don't hide the fact that we're friends, maybe people won't, you know, assume. But you know how people are, you know. Well, listen, you guys were having an affair.

So all those people that were saying shit were actually right, right. Yeah. They were right. I mean, and we'll get to the point where, I mean, because you're with her now and you and your wife have kids. So obviously your wife knows that you wound up with her. So at some point, there must be a time where your wife's like, oh, they were hooking up all that time. Like how, why were they so dumb? No.

Yes, absolutely. In fact, at one point she said, I've had enough of this, you and her. Yeah. Either we're moving or the kids and I are moving. Right. One of the two. Right. Like either you come with me or I'm leaving because we're moving the fuck out of here.

Is that why you guys moved? reason like that time yeah we also moved very often just because of my jobs that kind of job that moves but this time where we're at and the story is like you were you were moving right now at that time did you move because of your job or because your wife was like i'm going to move or you're going to move with me yes because she said she said she gave an ultimatum yeah and i did not want to lose my kids. So I said, okay, let's go. So I got a job in another

town and we left, you know, and the funny thing of all of it, sad, funny, pathetic, whatever it is, they helped us move. Right. Literally loaded up a trailer and her,

you know, Sheena's and her husband and kids helped us move. Okay. Now, Did she were you how far away were you moving like was it did you guys know that you were still able to keep that Relationship going? I mean were you just going to be an hour away or were you a plane ride away? No three hours three hours in a car and and So you know my intention when I left was to be done with it, you know I thought we'll move I won't see her anymore. We'll be done right by now

phones and text messages had become a thing. Right. So you could really stay connected. Uh-huh. Yes. Now you could stay connected. And that brought on a whole new different stuff. Then we started getting on webcam with each other where we could see each other.

And we were spending more time apart, but still talking to each other, which kind of started more of the, you know, when we first started talking, we talked about a lot of fantasies. But once we started hooking up, you know, that was fantasy enough. You know, we were having an affair. We were in cemeteries. We were on dirt roads. We're in cars. You know, that's fantasy enough.

Once I moved and we were just seeing each other, you know, on webcam or we were talking, you know, texting on the phone, we kind of started exploring some of that stuff again. You know, we started exploring some chat rooms a little bit. bit together, you know, and started getting into some other, not actual physical stuff, but certainly webcam stuff with other people. You know, we got involved with another couple some we would visit with on webcam. We got one time where this was kind of weird. We were in some chat room.

I can't remember what the chat rooms were anymore. Yeah. But I just talked to some people and invited some guys into a chat room. with she and I, a private one, it probably ended up about 10 of them. Uh-huh. And on webcam, and they talked her into, you know, taking off clothes and, you know, performing and, you know, that was really a cool deal. It was almost like a cyber gangbang.

Yeah, totally. That's what I was thinking, like, what would be the term. That's perfect. Uh-huh. Yeah, and it was really fun. You know, it was really an enjoyable. Of course, you know, it's that's somewhere between fantasy and reality. Yeah, you guys were being super naughty.

I mean, imagine your fucking wife found out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. You know, and all of this was possible because my wife was always an early go-to-bed person and I was not. Uh-huh. You know, so she would go to bed, I would be up, you know. So that allowed some of this to happen.

Uh-huh. And I was in, and I was not on webcam performing for people. You know, she was the center of it. I enjoyed watching them, you know, her. your girl, right? Sure. Yeah, yeah. Like you said, you guys were living out your fantasies now this way because you couldn't do it together. So now this was a whole new thing.

It probably just, and that's why it kept going all of a sudden you have like, you know, it's kind of like keeping it fresh. And we did continue to see each other too. We would meet halfway. Sometimes she would come all the way there, you know, bring her kids to visit mine, you know, and just for a weekend, you know, hang out and stuff. And so it continued, you know, and my wife was kind of in a weird spot because, one, she didn't particularly like my relationship with this woman,

but that was my son's best friend, you know. So she kind of tried to balance that a little bit. Well, now, when she would come to town, and I forgot to ask us when you guys lived in the same place as her, did you guys ever have sex in your in your homes sure yeah yeah sure we would have you know well first of all the building where we started doing the business was where we had most of our sex okay that just allowed and and the thing was on my property you know I mean it you could you could spit from my back porch and hit it you know but we would get in there and lock it up and

you know, we would be in there. Right, but now that you're living far away when she would come visit you with the kids on those weekends, did you ever bring her into your house and have sex with her there because your wife was out or whatever? I don't think ever in that house. I think we would go out. Okay. You know, go out.

Now, I do know we did some stuff, not, she and I didn't have sex, but I remember sitting out in front of our house in her car one time. And I told you, we had a online. friend for like 11 years. Right. And this is a guy that we just had met somewhere in a chat thing and it turned into phone talking to him on the phone some. And she and he would kind of have phone sex on a three-way call and I would just listen. The first time that happened was one of the coolest experiences of my life. Did he know you were on or was it a secret that you were listening? No, no, no. Yeah, he knew. Okay, okay, cool. Uh-huh. I kind of got him talking.

to her and then we were we he was from one of the chat things and would watch her look at her talk to her on webcam yeah and then so one time he's on webcam on his place I'm at my place and I can see both of them and he says something about we should talk on the phone so I get a three-way phone call going and it's it's kind of weird because she's kind of nervous giggly about it you know, she's kind of nervous talking. And he's saying, well, hey, do this and do that. And before long, her little nervous giggles go to just kind of heavy, heavy breathing. Right, because she's horny.

She's turned off. Yeah. Well, and we see her on the bed. You know, we can see her. He's got her naked now. She's playing with herself, you know. And then she's moaning and, you know, he's talking to her and she's loving the talking. And he's loving seeing her naked, you know, playing with herself on the bed.

and it was just it was a really cool experience and that bled over to one time in the new town where she and I were in the car out in front of my house and we got him on the phone and I was sitting right beside her while she talked to him on the phone right and did the same thing you know she's getting off you know she's coming in my car by talking to this guy on the phone which was and that was right in front of my house now it's 1230 at night right right and use your wife inside oh yeah she's long asleep you know she's been asleep for a long time but it was it was a really that was a cool experience yeah it's uh okay so i mean it would be like a lot of guys fantasy to have that to sort of play out sure yeah so now you're still having this affair you're three hours away you're back and forth you're having all this phone sex and online webcam, sacks with people and everything. And what happens next? Well, we did end up taking it a little farther.

We went to, we went on a trip together. And she was going to a wedding. I was going to a training session in fairly close towns. So we just went together. You know, we met somewhere and we went together. And after this wedding, we had kind of, I had kind of started focusing in then on, you know, hey, at one time you said you might like to be with a woman. She goes, oh, yeah, they're beautiful.

You know, I've never done that, but that would be a cool experience. And so while we're on this trip, I said we should go to a strip club. So we went to a strip club. A really good one, is a matter of fact. And but we went kind of early. There wasn't a lot of people there. And she's kind of nervous about I give her some money. So you got to go up there and tip them the dancers and stuff.

And the dancers are kind of friendlier to women than men usually. And so the strippers would kiss her, which she liked, you know, they would let her feel her. They would, you know, she loved all that. She was enjoying kissing these strippers and stuff. And then we were sitting in a booth kind of in the corner of this place. And this woman and her, a man came and sat with us. And this woman just started talking to about how pretty she was and blah, blah. And before long, this woman's kissing her.

Right. And then, you know, touching her tits and, you know, gets her hands between her legs. And this goes, I mean, we're in the middle of this club. Oh, we're kind of in the center of it. And they got their, both of them have them skirts. They got them pulled up, grinding on each other, shirts, open, tits out, just full half-naked makeout session right there in the middle of this club. Wow. Well, I guess they were there for the same thing, that other couple.

So it was perfect timing, yeah. Yeah, and ultimately they said, do y'all want to go somewhere together? Yeah, of course. Sure. But as we were leaving, going in the parking lot, we're kind of all walking together. and the woman is holding Sheena's hand and she takes it and she puts it on her

husband's dick and she did not like that at all. Oh, okay. And so when we got in the car, she said, I don't want to do it. I just want to leave. Right. She got freaked out. Yeah, that freaked her out big time. So we left. We didn't go. We left instead. But that

kind of inspired some stuff where we did end up having some some threesome with another woman. You know, I think we had about four times where we did that with four different women. And you would do that through women like that you found on Craigslist? Like, where would you meet the women? The very first one was a woman we knew. And, well, she knew her.

I kind of knew her. And I just believed she was wild, you know. Yeah. Sheena didn't really think she was wild. I said, I'm telling you she's wild. Was she another mom? No She was

She was just a woman Who had She had lost a baby Uh huh And so she was there living in that town Where Sheena lived with her mom You know for a while Because you know

So that old place where you lived with her So she knew her You knew her from when you lived there And then so did she hook it up with that girl Yeah she She got her to go out with her one night in a bigger town, you know, so let's go out. And so they went out. I got a motel room, you know, hotel room.

And they drank for a while. And then she said, hey, let's go by and see Tucker. And so they came by the hotel room where I was, which was the plan all along. Yeah. And she said something. She said, everybody says, y'all are having an affair. And she was like, well, maybe, maybe not, you know, blah, blah. But it really almost played out like a bad porn.

Yeah. You know, I said something to her about it. I said, well, of course I'm having a fair. Well, look at her ass. Look at her ass. Look how great her ass is. Yeah. And this girl says, I have a great ass too.

Right. And I said, yes, you do. And she just like takes her pants off, you know. And then that leads to, I say, well, she's got her pants off. You should have your pants off. and that led to them sitting by me with her pants off and kissing me and then kissing each other and then it was just on, you know. Yeah, that's like I would call that a good porn.

I don't think that that's bad porn. I think some people would be a really good porn. But I mean, it's, it sounds like something you would watch in a porn. Yeah, it's always cheesy dialogue. Yeah, I was, I mean, there's at one point where, you know, Sheena's on the bed, this girl's on top of her kissing her, and I'm behind going in one and then out and then in the other you know right you're plugging both of them and these are two of the best looking women I've ever known in my life I'm thinking how is this

even happening right you know and I can't even tell anybody about this you know that's right yeah yeah yeah and so she goes to town with that girl does everything with or goes down on her like I mean breaks her sort of lesbian virginity yes although it was more That girl wasn't really, I wouldn't really call her by all the time. Right. She was drunk by that night. Right. Uh-huh.

So she, the girl was more into allowing her to do it to her and then, you know, her being with me, then her, you know, then that girl doing it to Sheena. Right. Okay. So, Tina was a giver that night, not really a receiver. Right. And that kind of led to another one later because she said, you know, it was a cool experience, but I want one that wants to do it all. And so we did actually find somebody then through Craig's List.

We did find a woman, which is a painstakingly long, frustrating, you know, to take. But we did get one and probably met with her three times after that and had a great time with her every time. You know, we really enjoyed her. She was hot? Yes, yes. And she was into everything.

You know, she was into doing, to doing and receiving, you know. Right. She was on there looking for like a couple? Yes. Yes, she was. Right. That's the unicorn. That's what they call it.

You guys found one. And to find one that's good looking, you're lucky. And they went and met each other first without me. You know, he went out, met at a bar just together to see if they even liked each other. And finally texted me and said, hey, come pick us up and by the time I picked them up they were really friendly right you know I mean they they get in the back seat and are like kissing each other before we ever even get to the hotel so they uh they were friendly to each other but this is all while you're living

three hours away right but so you're doing this all like in the middle yes in the middle okay so you mean with that girl I can't believe like the life like you guys have I mean it's like a really hardcore affair that you're having because and because you're not only just having an affair you're like living out new fantasies doing all kinds of new things having threesomes a girl you know all this stuff behind your partners backs it's like crazy to me you know that all this is going down in all these years and you know your partners are just home oblivious to it all Now, are you, like, still having sex with your wife during all this time? Did she ever get that?

Yes, yes, but not all the time, but yes. Okay. Yeah, we are. So you keep hanging, hooking up. Yeah, go on. In fact, you know, that town that I moved to, I only lived there for about three years, and then I moved to a different one that was back closer to her again. Oh, okay.

So I probably moved about an hour closer. Right. And while I was there, now we started, the affair started having some rocky situations in it. Because at this point, it's beyond just a sexual affair. Right. You know, we have true feelings for each other now. Right. And she at this point starts pushing me, we need to divorce and get together.

Right. And I am unwilling to do that because I don't want to lose my children. Yeah, it's funny. I just had a girl on who's really like if this was the situation, she's the woman, right? In the situation, she was cheating with a guy like you on her husband. And she was really, she's really, she was really into him,

but he didn't want to leave his wife because of the kids. And she, but she had no intention of leaving him. She was really in love with him. And, you know, we left it off with at that. So she, I got to, I'm going to email her to tell her to listen to this because, you know, her, her, what you have, the end of your story,

is what she wishes at the end of her story, is that, you know, you eventually do leave your wife and your kid, you know, for her. There's a lot of rocky road between, you know, that point. Yeah. Right.

You know, there was certainly, in fact, at that point, I did because, you know, she was getting so frustrated. And when we moved closer, um,

I thought to maybe, maybe, maybe, you know, I could make it work. And my wife and I decided to get a divorce. Okay. And even told our kids we were going to get divorced. And but then I got nervous about it. And I thought she's going to take those kids and leave if I do that. You know, as long as she stayed in the same town, I would be okay with it.

Right. But if she moved away to another town. And so I decided I didn't want to do it. And I told her, I said, why don't we wait? until our youngest child is grown. Graduates. This is what you said to your wife at the time. Yes.

I said, then we'll divorce. And she's fine with that. She goes, okay. Okay. Yeah. So we decide, but at that point, you know, it was obvious to her that I was having the affair. It was. It was like an unspoken obvious or was there a conversation?

Well, she would bring it up sometimes, you know. And she called her my addiction. She said, you're, you just having this addiction to her. You know, and I know there's nothing I can do about it. She goes, there's nothing I can do to break this. Right. You know. So, but as we had moved closer, it became more of an issue.

Of course. But in this time, interestingly enough, during this time, so now, you know, Sheena's mad at me because I won't divorce. Yeah. The wife's mad at me because I'm having the affair. Yeah. So they're both kind of mad at me. So I meet another woman. Oh my gosh.

You gotta be fucking kidding me. No. And this is one, it really starts out just chatting with her one night. I saw her at this place. And I just started chatting with her. I can't remember where I saw her, but I just started chatting with her. And we got along well, you know, we're just chatting. And then she tells me, you know, something, you know, social media.

I saw you on social media. I said, oh, yeah, yeah, because we had kids that went to the same school. That's what it was. Yeah. And so one night, I'm on my social media, and she sends me a message on it and says, hey, do you know we share the same birthday? I'm like, wow, that's cool. We start talking, yada, yada, yada, yada. And she says, why don't you come over?

Well, it's late. I mean, it's midnight. And which may not be late in New York, but in town. Texas men, but still, you're married man. I mean, come on. Like, what, what kind of stench do you have that all these women know that you're down to cheat? My wife's out of town at this point. But wife and kids are going, I'm home alone.

No, but that, but that girl is the one that went after you. Oh, yeah, yeah. In fact, she says this is more porno sounding BS, but this is what happened. I said something. She said, why don't you come over? and I said because it's a 20 minute drive and she says I'll make it worth your while I said the only way it's worth my while

is if you answer the door in your bra and panties and give me a blowjob. Right. And she says, okay. That could be a real conversation though too. You know, that's like how, I mean, that all goes down. You know, that's not cheesy porn lingo.

That's like for real life conversation. Well, so I went. Yeah, of course. I didn't believe her completely. completely, but I thought, yeah, maybe, you know, it's worth trying them. I'm not doing anything else. So I drove over there and sure as hell, you know, she answered the door and a draw brawn panties and without saying a word, she goes down.

Okay. You know, so this led, of course, to, you know, I fucked her that night. And, and then we became just kind of talking because I was in this spot between my wife and my girlfriend at that point. Yeah. And I would discuss that with her. you know and we would meet and have sex she had an empty house because her daughter was gone my gosh so it's like you're cheating on the woman that you're cheating with and like now

this girl's like your psychiatrist between I it's so crazy yes I'm literally having sex with all three of them uh-huh yeah and and trying to keep my wife from leaving you know while acknowledging that in another six years I do want a divorce yeah you know and and and And at that point, it was about three years away from the divorce. And, you know, trying to calm the girlfriend enough to keep going what we're going, knowing that I'm not leaving until my last child's gone. And so in the meantime, I'm having sex with this other girl quite a bit. And but then she starts to fall for me.

Oh, God. And I'm just like, I can't have. have this. Yeah. And now the other one, does she ever catch when that this is going on? Well, yes, because I'm, because I'm a moron. What do you do? So, so I talked to the third one.

And she also has some, I get her convinced I'm not going to be with you permanently. It's not happening. eventually I'm going to be with Sheena. Yeah. You know. But then we started talking a lot more about fantasies, and she also had a fantasy to be with a woman. Right. So naturally in my mind, I thought.

Yeah, Sheena and her. Yeah. So I set up for us to meet her. You know, now I don't tell Sheena that I have anything with us, that I even know her. I just said, hey, I found this woman. Right. But the other one, you could be honest with her and say, hey, pretend like you just met me. Don't let her know that we've always been banging.

Uh-huh, yeah, I got it. Uh-huh. So we meet out somewhere, you know, and have some drinks and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And at some point, she, the third one goes to the bathroom and text me. And she says, I can't do it. She said, I care for you. I don't want to see you with another woman, even if it's with me. Oh, God.

Mm-hmm. And so she never comes back. She just leaves. Oh. And I tell, she and I said, oh, she's not in it, you know. Yeah. And so blah, blah, blah. So we stay the night in a hotel and the next day we get up to go meet a friend of mine at a game, at a game, you know, he's coaching the game.

So we go over there. When we leave, I forget my phone at the hotel. I don't think anything of it. We get to the thing. She says, dang it, I forgot my purse at the hotel. I got to go back and get it. You stay here. I'll just go get it.

I'll be right back. well when she comes back she had got my phone and I had a bunch of text message from this girl saying I couldn't do it because I like bucking you know I came in someone else being on top of you and so she comes in throws the phone at me in the middle of the game you know and storms out oh my god and I didn't even know what she's mad about so then I start reading them you know because they're up and I'm like oh no you know but miraculously, I salvaged it that very night and got her under. I said, look, she's just obsessed with me. Yes, it happened, you know, but it's not happening now. And you know how I feel about you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she came back to the hotel, you know, and stayed the weekend. Right.

And to this day, we'll bring it up every now and then about that woman, you know. But. Yeah, and she doesn't even know about the... Yeah. That was the end of that woman. That was the end of the third woman. Right. So now let's get to the point where you decide.

So there's like a rocky road, right? But eventually, is it, was it like what you and your wife discussed? Like when your youngest got out of school, you guys decided to end? I mean, how did the end of your marriage happen? And then how did your wife react when she found out you were going to marry this one? It was an interesting thing because, yes, we decided when the youngest one graduated, we were going to divorce. Right. And that was always the plan.

And so as that happened, she graduated and a couple of months goes by and neither one of us ever says a word. And then finally went out, I said, look, I thought we were going to get this divorce. And she said, yeah, okay, I'll do it today. Oh, my God. It's like in the books. that was it so so she files for divorce so i tell you know the girlfriend okay i'm divorcing now if you want to be together this is a time yeah but when did she divorce her husband she did not divorcing then like she now she makes a 180 on this okay and says because she had a younger child

yeah she said well he's got a few more years of school i waited for you, you can wait for me. So, you know, which didn't sit well with me because, and I understood the fairness of that. However, she had wanted to leave while she still had him before. And now I'm single and she's still married. And I just said, you know, when we were both married, having an affair, that's one thing. But now I'm free to do whatever I want and you want me to continue to be on the side while you just live at home with a husband. Right.

I said, I'm not going to do that. I'm just not going to do it. And literally, I got a new girlfriend. But who you let it and who she knew about. I mean, you were open about that. Yes. And I quit contact with her. Yeah.

Just quit having contact with her because I got this new girlfriend. She was fun. She was rich, which helped. Yeah. You know, I'd be set for life with her. Right. And, but she was also a lot of fun. A lot of the things that Sheena and I had discussed wanting to do, like her being with other men while I'm there watching or gang banging, you know, reality stuff that we had never actually done.

Yeah. This woman had actually done with her ex. Right. And she would tell me these stories, which were crazy fun to hear. But it also was some reality that, you know, the kind of road that I want to go down and share with somebody, she's already. shared with somebody else. Right. And you probably just wanted to do it with the other one.

Maybe, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. So probably a year I spent with this woman and not talking to the other one. Uh-huh. Now, the other one tried to talk to me all the time. All the time she tried to contact me. But you wouldn't.

I just wouldn't do it. And I just kept ignoring it. You know, the new girl knew about. about it all. Right. Okay. You're honest. I had met her at an out of drinking and was telling her all these stories and that led us to kind of get together. Right. So she knew about it, you know. So what happens after the year? Does that girl say, oh, okay, you know what? I'm leaving my husband. Yes. Yes, pretty much. After a year, you know, she said, okay, you're right. You know, I should. And of course, by then, I'm pretty involved in this other one.

But, you know, when she told me, yes, I'm willing to do it, even though the other one and I had a perfect relationship all this time, we never had any issues. We got along great. We spent tons of times together. I just dumped her. Right. I just said, no, I'm with her. Yeah, you just had so many years with the other one that this one couldn't compete, even though you really, liked her, you know. Yes, yes. But when I, when that happened, so I dropped this one,

Sheena was very slow to divorce. Even at that point, she was very slow to divorce. So during that time, I was really frustrated and saw several other women along the way during that time. Right. We don't have time to get into those women, but we'll do a part two with you and get into more specifics, because I want to get to the point. I mean, we, We have like 10 more minutes left. I want to get to the point where, yeah, no, it's interesting, though. I like it. You know, I have a lot more questions.

We'll do a part two where we do, you know, another thing, and I'll put that on my Patreon page. But where I was, so, I mean, she eventually divorces her husband, right? She does. She eventually divorces him. And does her husband at this point finally know that she's having an affair with you? Or does she find out after when you guys are together? No. No, he does not know.

and she's really slow even after their divorce is final to get him out of the house. He's still there. You know, it's frustrating to me, very frustrating to me. To the point where I finally said, you know what, I'm going to be done. You know, I'm just done. If you're not going to get rid of him and make it where we can see each other openly, then there's no point to this. I don't want to be secret anymore.

We've been secret for 15 years or something at that point. But she eventually then tells him or it gets divorced first? She's divorced. He's still in there. She eventually gets him out of the house. I'm literally at her house one weekend and he comes by and it's just surprised to see me like, hey, what are you doing here? You want to go have some lunch? You know, like he still didn't put it together.

He still didn't put it together. I mean, come on. That's so weird that he's like, does it. He probably had to tell him. Well, obviously, because you guys wind up. You guys are together now. How long? three years. We've been married for three years. Right. So they, she's been divorced three years. You've been divorced

longer. Yeah. She's been divorced about four years. She, when she was divorced a year before we got married. How do your kids feel about the fact that you guys are together? Did they, I mean, because they got older as this all happened, right? I mean, did they, do they know the craziness of this story? My kids are aware that we had an affair. Right. Because she was around a lot. And I, of course, their mother was always saying they're having an affair. And so finally, I just fessed up to it with my kids. But my kids loved her, you know, because she's always around anyway. And so I just kind of confessed to them, yes, I did it, you know.

And their response was, well, y'all should get married. You know, you love each other and get married. Right. And marry now, now is your wife friendly with her still, or does your wife hate her? We're friendly. We're all friendly. You are? Yeah.

Okay. She's cool. She's okay. We don't have a lot of, of, uh, we don't spend a lot of time together, but we do share children and grandchildren. You know, we have seven grandchildren that we share together. Right. Well, no, but I mean like, when did she, she, was she friends with that woman to the end?

Is she still friends with her? Or did they stop being friends when you guys moved? No, no, no. I would not call her friends at all. Right. Okay. They weren't friends. But she's friends.

leave. Right. Okay. But not friends. No. Right. Because that must have been a crazy thing throughout the, like the extended family that all of a sudden now you're marrying this woman that was your friend. But I guess maybe there was whispering even within the family. Like everyone knew, but didn't know. And then I don't know. I would just think it would be very, you know. It's different her family and my family because I was open with my family. You know, my parents, my siblings, my kids. At one point, I finally said to all of them, yes, I had this affair that you all think I had and we're going to get married. She never fessed up to her family about it. Right. You know, to her family, we just divorced and then divorced was our mutual thing and we ended up getting married, you know. And how has the marriage been for the past three years? Are you guys like back trying all these new things, you know, all that stuff that that other woman had already done that you wanted to do with her? Are you guys experimenting?

Have you done anything with another guy? All those things that you used to sort of fantasize about now that you're together? It's kind of an in-between there. We still do some of it, but it's mostly me pushing it. You know, she's more perfectly consent now, you know, in the way things are. But I can say, you know, look, part of our 15-year makeup was this fun stuff and now we're not doing it. Oh, no, I'll do it, you know. And we'll, you know, the guy that, the phone guy, we still have.

You know, we still talk to him some. Yeah. But it's been 11 years or something. We've never met him, you know. And, you know, so she, so it's kind of an in-between. But does she ever, because of your last, you know, because you did cheat on her and she knows you cheated on your wife with her, does she ever, is she trustworthy of you? Like, does she trust you?

No, I don't think so. Not completely. Are you trustworthy with her or do you cheat on her too? No, I do not. You don't. Okay. No. No.

And, you know, people say cheaters cheat, you know, they're going to do it. Right. Everything I ever wanted, you know. You have with her. You know, it just met her late, you know. Yeah. That's what happened. You know, you marry somebody and then later on, what do you do if you run into somebody that's, you know, you got that thing for?

You know, what do you do? And I think. my wife and I, my ex-wife and I would have divorced no matter what eventually, you know? Yeah, it doesn't even seem like, listen, you know, it doesn't even seem like there was much of a relationship there, you know, for years because the way it even ended was like, okay, we could do it now. You know, I mean, it was like you guys were separated for a long time. You know, she basically knew you were having an affair with someone else. She wasn't going mental. I mean, normally you would go mental if there was still a solid relationship.

you know, you know, to be very... We were very... Roommate-oriented. Yeah, like you were... We didn't fight. We didn't argue. We got along. We still went to movies together and did stuff together.

Right. But we weren't, you know, like crazy in love with each other. Yeah, obviously. Or she would have been more jealous. Yeah. Yeah. And she married within a year after us divorcing. Oh, she did?

Yeah. Yeah. So that's good. So everyone winds up in a happier place. Absolutely. Everybody did. Yeah. It literally worked out for everybody.

Yeah. That's, that's... That's good. And you waited. I can't wait to tell poor Marilyn who's like, you know, five years, ten years back in the relationship that you're, you know, because like I said, that her fantasy is for her cheating partner to leave his wife that he doesn't want to like you did. And it's interesting that you left first before her. Did her husband eventually, does he give a shit that you're with her now? That lazy, oblivious husband of hers? Yeah, he's been He's been the most bitter about it Right But it's eased up recently You know

But we're not friends You know, we're not friends Right, right But I am glad Speaking of all that I'm glad I stayed till my kids were grown Right, okay, interesting I do wish I had been able to be with Sheena earlier in life

But the only way for that to be in reality Was to have met her before I met my wife Right Because I did not want to grow, my kids to grow up in a house without a deal. I just couldn't do that. Right. You didn't want to split up your family. Yeah, I think a lot of people stay for those reasons.

I totally understand that. I think I said this on her episode. Look, I understand that more now that I have a child than I would understand that before. And not to say that people who do leave before their kids are older or are wrong, right? I mean, I think it's a personal choice that everybody makes for themselves. But if you can't do it. I mean, like, you don't have to live with that regret because you probably, like, if that's how you feel now, you would have regretted it, right? And so I worked in a school.

Yeah. And because of that, I was able to go to school with them every day. Right. And had we divorced before that, she would have moved up somewhere else. That wouldn't happen. Right. You know, it would have changed your whole life with your children. Oh, completely.

Absolutely. So I'm glad that didn't happen. Yeah. Well, what a crazy, interesting, naughty, very naughty story with a happy ending. I like it. Yeah, and it's, you know, and there's stories within stories that, you know, I mean, our, our branching out into other stuff has always been somewhere between fantasy and reality, you know. In reality, we had three sums with women, you know. Yeah.

In reality, being with other men, her being with other men has, there's been quite a bit of that through the use of the internet or phone. Right, but not in person yet. Besides this one guy, there's several of those along the way that I normally initiate. Right. You know, and I even have a relative and his wife that's somewhat involved with us. Oh my God. Stop there, though. That's the teaser.

That's the teaser to your part too, okay? I can't get into that because I would have 50 million questions and I need to get back to my son right now. But yeah, we're going to do a part two with you. I'll air it on Patreon people. that's where I put all my part two's now. But we'll get it more specific of these other things and you'll have to tell me these other little stuff.

Because, I mean, the fact that you just said that, was it a cousin? Yes, yes. Yeah, okay, save it. We'll talk again. If anyone wants to hear your second, they'll have to go to Patreon and do it. But this was a really interesting one.

And I can't wait to tell Marilyn to listen to it, as well as other people that are hoping that their cheating relationship winds up happily ever after. You know, a lot of times they don't. but you're, you know, your story did. And I think that's,

you know, interesting for people to hear. So thanks so much, Tucker, for calling in. It certainly makes you feel like it's she and I against the world, you know,

and, but we haven't let the pressures of people thinking, you know, we were wrong or the weirdness of having, you know, so many parents to share our children

with changed the fact that we finally got together, you know? Right. Yeah. And there you go. And it was a long time coming. So I,

Like I said, I like stories with a happy ending. And there was a lot of twisted turns, like I said, and there was a lot of naughtiness going on. So I think it's going to be a great fucking episode. So thanks so much for calling in. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate a bunch. It was nice talking to you.

Yeah, and I get talking to you. Let me know what you think about it when you listen to it back. Super. All right. You too. Bye. Bye. Okay.

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