Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 342 - Micah has Been Fooling Around with Guys Since he Was Super Young

Episode Date: June 29, 2020

Mich has been fooling around with guys since he was super young and he calls in to talk all about it. Exactly how old was he when he first hooked up with another guy, who was the guy and what did they... do? How many other guys did he hook up with before he met his first wife? And, how honest has he been about his interest in guys with the women in his life? Tune in for all the details which include, how he use to "fool around" with his brother, how his best friend taught him how to masturbate and how they masturbated together, the pedophile in his town and how he turned him down, how his female cousins tried to have sex with him and his other male cousin and why he turned them down, his first wife’s love of anal and how they used dildos together, all with guys he hooked up with behind her back, his experiences with glory holes in adult bookstores, the guys he met for threesomes with his girlfriend after his divorce, how he met his now wife, who is a size queen and what she's into, the threesomes they have had, what he’s thinking he’s going to do with her in the future, including orgies and cuckolding and a whole lot more.   **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. Today I'm on a guy named Micah. No, I have been talking a lot of my intros about how backed up I am. And this guy I spoke with, Micah, literally like very early on. Maybe he was the second person I spoke to in quarantine.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And now I know why I waited so long to post his episode because it was super fucking interesting. But I waited so long because there were so many interruptions by my son. I mean, I wish I could air all the bloopers. I think I might do that for my Patreon members. There were so many times my son came in screaming and yelling because it was like the beginning of the quarantine and he just was not used to having me 24-7 on his ass.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And this guy was so patient with all of the interruptions and just stuck to his story, never came. complained once was super calm and just like I said went on with his story and we were able to tape his whole episode and like I said I was like why didn't I tape this a long time ago because it is so interesting but it was because I think I knew it was going to take a long time to edit all the all of my son's interruptions out of it but I'm glad that I did you'll definitely find this guy's story fascinating I don't want to say interesting again I say that word way too much he has been by since the dawn of time.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I mean, he has all these things that went down and that he did when he was younger, including, like, you know, stimulating sex with his brother, and then he had a best friend, and they were jerking off together, and then there was, like, a pedophile in town who was, like, is jerking off young guys and bushes. Like, that's a fucked up story. He did the right thing in that situation.
Starting point is 00:02:19 He has crazy stories about his cousins and how they tried to hook up with him and his other cousin. And I think his other cousin, and I know, I mean, I know his other cousin hooked up with him, but he didn't hook up with his cousins, and he tells that whole story. And this guy gets into a lot of details. And then he, you know, and then he winds up getting married because he's bisexual, right? He winds up getting married.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And he's pretty open with all. He's had two wives and one girlfriend. Those are the three relationships we get into. And he talks all about what he did with guys other behind their backs or while he was with them. And the first one, he did it behind his wife's back. That's two other, his girlfriend and his second wife. did a lot of things with them. There's threesomes. There's cuckolding situations. There's a lot of anal play with his first wife. She knew that he was into guys, but he cheated on her behind her back.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Adult video stores, glory holes, threesomes with married guys. I mean, there's so many great stories in this episode that you'll want to hear. So I'm just going to get right to it and be right back on with Micah. So you have submitting an email and you have so many interesting stories. I mean, typically, really don't like to read through long-winded emails and I like I prefer like to not know anything but I like read through your whole email and it was like one fascinating story after another so I was like maybe I'm just going to be able to sit back and let you tell this whole story because it was very chronological order right and there was like a lot of things that you hit on and I don't know it was all so fascinating I mean basically you're a guy that's been I would say you call
Starting point is 00:03:54 yourself bi-sosexual for a very young age and you've had a lot of like very interesting scenarios that have happened to you. So why don't you start from the beginning like you did in your email and then just go through it? Well, listening to your podcast, you speak about impressions, what happened at a young age, what made me an impression that would make you buy. And I said to you, I don't, I think it was born that way because, I mean, some stuff on my say, it's almost embarrassing. That's why I'm talking to you was like, I can get this out.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah. I was like, well, I've been holding this in all my life. I'm 60 years old. I, my brother younger me, three years younger me. And at a young age, I'm talking, I'm six or seven, he's three or four. You know, we call it, we start making a movie. And I would get on top of him, and, you know, he would close his legs like it was a vagina.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And I'm so young that nothing's happening. We're just pretending. And that wouldn't last for it. That's interesting that you actually remember what was going down at three or four. You know, it's listening to your show that the tape started playing. Oh, interesting, really? And that wasn't, yes, and that wasn't, I didn't happen often. I happen to a three or four times in our lives.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But then by the time I'm eight, say, we're in the woods somewhere in the town I grew up in. And an older kid in the neighborhood, as young kids do, had his clock out, and he asked me to suck it. And I'm like, I'm not going to do that. I'm like, get out of here, you know. You're just going to piss in my mouth. That's all you want to do. He said, no, no, no, I won't do that. I won't do that.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So I took it into my mouth. Not for very long. I don't remember sucking on it. Just I had it in my mouth. And it's like, this is, you know, at the time, this is a fun. talking to the late 60s, I can't do this. So I didn't know what to do it anyway. I was only like eight.
Starting point is 00:06:06 What grade is eight? Do you remember? Like, what grade is eight? Eight is probably third grade. Oh, wow. Okay. And now what grade, how old was the kid, the guy, the other guy? He was probably sixth grade.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Okay. Yeah. So he was old enough because, I mean, by six grade, and most kids are probably, you know, masturbating by land. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, um, so right about that time, um, another kid in the neighborhood, I
Starting point is 00:06:40 go up to his parents' camp with them and we built these forts out of, I grew up in our paper mill town and back when they, before they put the Osolans in, and not Oso was a clean water act used to use the rivers to get the wood out of the woods into the mills. And so there's these four foot logs are lined. all over the place. I'm going to build these forts and we're climbing side of them, thinking nobody can see him, see us, but there's gaps in these big of a large cabin and we can see through that. But anyway, we'll get in there and he's going to introduce me to masturbation and he had
Starting point is 00:07:19 for a found eight or nine to ten, he's two years old and me. Yeah. So he matured early. He had them. I cannot believe this. To think back on it, I cannot believe, the size of, he was a kid, the size of the cocky guy. So, you know, I would stroke it and stuff. And I'm not, I'm just an average guy, you know, five and a half inches, but it's one of those.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I'm a growing out of show, so I didn't, anyway, compared to what I had my hand around, it was like, look at this thing. Right. So that's fascinating. That's fascinated me. But. But, like, when you guys, like, jerk off. like how did you, I mean, maybe it's just too long ago for you to remember, right?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, how did that situation come about? Like, was it disgust? Did he just pull down his pants? Like, did you guys go in there knowing that that's what you were going to do? Or do you not even remember how it sort of happened that you guys are there with your pants down jerking each other off or jerking off together? Um, I think he would have to broce us of it. He brought it up.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And because of my... something internal because of the real, growing up with my brother, the kid that I put the, his talk in my mouth, I was, I was, you know, yeah, yeah, let's do this. What are you talking about? Mastubation. So he never touched me. I would play with him, but he never touched me. And then probably only did that four or five times.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Right. And the whole time I was in there. But he were best friends. I guess he was my best friend. But then what happened was when by the time I was 10, my parents built a house in a different part of town. And we moved away. Well, we didn't move away.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I moved a different part of town. So, you know, I'd see him once in a while, but I didn't chumble them anymore. Right. You guys weren't jerking off together anymore. Right. And like I said, you never... It never went farther than that. No.
Starting point is 00:09:25 No. And I think back on it. If he would have asked, I probably would have done whatever he wanted. But he didn't, he just, he never had an orgasm. He'd tell me, oh, if you stroke there for 20 minutes, you'll see what happens. I don't know if he was, if he was mature enough to have come come out or not, but I wasn't into this, my mom I was just going to sit in and stroke this thing for 20 minutes. That's right, I'm going to get tired.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Right, and neither one of you would come, right? Neither one of you. And then you would just like stop and go play. And like when you were like in regular playtime together, not in those like, blog forts, did you guys ever talk about it or did you just like pretend like it didn't happen when you weren't, when it wasn't happening? You know, because you guys were best friends, right? Yes. Yeah. The only time I can remember, he had old, he was the youngest of probably five. Uh-huh. He told his brother that Mike is jerks off now. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And his brother just looked at me like, they always shrugged his show. It was like, oh, join the club, I guess. Uh, yeah, right, the guy thing. Yeah, just like I said, that's a, you know, what teenage boys do. Yeah. And I probably did it, I did it a lot. It was interesting. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Once you have, once you have that first orgasm, it's like, wow. Right. Because I wasn't, like I said, we weren't, you know, one of us were orgasms. We were just playing around. Right. And so, I mean, from there, I once out of fantasy, and that's probably 1718. I had a real,
Starting point is 00:10:58 a friend, a real good friend with sports together and stuff. So I shower with him plenty of times so I knew that he was fine. And I masturbated one time and, you know, fantasized about him. But, you know, I'm probably,
Starting point is 00:11:13 like I said, high school, maybe a senior in high school. So I'm dating my first wife. So I'm going on to, you know, I'm with my wife now. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're forgetting about that guy, there was a guy in your town, right?
Starting point is 00:11:28 This is before the high school thing. Remember, there was a guy in your town, an older guy that was doing shit with people. Like, you can't skip over that. This friend of mine, one time he says... The same friend that you were going in the forts with, right? That same guy, right? Yes. Yeah, same guy.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I got interested in masturbation. He says, hey, you know, so-and-so, and he was kind of, like I said, He's one of those guys in a family to be the uncle, stay away from him. Yeah. And unfortunately, he looked like that. I don't want to say anything. He fit the terrible stereotype was perfect. It was strange how that was.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Why, he was creepy-looking? Or like, what do you mean? Yes. Yes. He was creepy-looking. He was weird acting. He had a reputation. He had a nickname.
Starting point is 00:12:24 the town called him that wasn't very, you know, it was derogatory. Yeah. And so he was just known around town. So my friend says, you know, we're going to bushes over here. It was a part of the town. We go over here, blah, blah, blah, and we jerk him off. He'll give us a dime. A dime.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Oh, my God. A dime. This is the 60s, right? How old was that guy, though? Do you remember how old he was around? If, yeah, if I was, if I was nine or ten, and my friend was 11 or 12. This guy was probably, he was easily, he was how much old was he either?
Starting point is 00:13:02 He was at least 25. Right, okay. You know, 25, 28. Right. Yeah. So the one time that I went over there, went into the bushes, and they both pulled their cocks out because my friend had this huge car. Well, this guy had one too.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And so now I'm like, Well, I got this little thing here. As long as an average old meat. And I don't know if it was part of it. I was embarrassed that I wasn't as big as them. But I like to think that. I was also thinking, what am I doing here? Right.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And so the old guy, the older guy, the pedophile, now that we know what's going on these days, said, you got to leave. Do you? You got to leave. Right. And I said, fine. So I left the bushes. And I just stood up.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I just walked away and stood and waited for my friend. So they both come out of the bushes, and the guy jumps in his truck, and he drives off. And my friend takes me back into the bushes and shows me his come. And that's the first time in my life I ever seen that. You know, so that's what it looks like. Because I'm not mature enough at this time to, you know, to have come. And where was the come, like on his dick? Like it was the guy's come?
Starting point is 00:14:19 Like on his dick, the guy had drunk. No, it was on the ground. Oh, right, right. Okay, right, right. Okay. Yeah. So that was the only time I did. I know one time we were standing downtown,
Starting point is 00:14:31 and he come by on this truck, and I saw this, and I don't know if they knew who I saw, but I saw them make eye contact, and I saw head nods, and that guy made a right-hand turn, which leads me to believe it. Oh, you took that right,
Starting point is 00:14:46 that's going back to where they met. And I was a sudden my friend says, hey, I'll catch you later. Oh, so they knew that was like the deal. That was how it went down. So I have no idea how often he did that, without older guy. But I know twice.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And then it's like, when I think back on it, it's like, how many other young kids were he doing this with? Yeah, totally. I think back on it. I should have been telling my parents. But it's like, I didn't get any, things like, like no harm, no follow. I'm not, he's not, from my knowledge,
Starting point is 00:15:21 he didn't do anything, but just jerk him off. Well, that's bad enough. I understand that, but I don't think he was penetrating him and anything like that. He wasn't raping him. Right. He was just jerking him off. I mean, you don't know how far that ever went down the line, but I think it's super confusing for you at your age to have the wherewithal to just like really know that you're supposed to go and report this. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Right. It's confusing. Well, yeah, in those days, I mean, I'm talking late 60s. Yeah. It's just that you don't talk about. Right. You know, it was just more of stay away from that person. And I wasn't going to, I wasn't going to rat out my friend.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Exactly. And you'd be like maybe you're worried that you're going to be in trouble because you did something. You know what I mean? Like, what were you doing in the bushes? And I think that it's like a loaded kind of a thing, right? So I think a lot of kids keep shit to themselves that they shouldn't because, you know, it's hard at that young age to have, information like that, you know, in your brain and know what to do with it. You know, it's almost like too much.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So I think a lot of times kids don't know really what to do and they don't do the right thing, which is go and tell. It happens all the time. Even now, I think. Even now. Especially in those days. Yeah, exactly. They didn't do anything in those days.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I mean, they just wasn't talking. It was just stay away from that. Stay away from your crazy uncle. Yeah, but also though, even... But they wouldn't tell you why. Right, exactly. But I just think that it's like what I think also is like at that time period because it is so long ago, right? And guys being with guys is like so much more taboo than it is now, right?
Starting point is 00:17:04 Like by the time you're in high school, right, and you start dating your first wife, do you know that you like guys? Like is it sinking in on you? Are you confused about your sexuality? Like how do you or have you just detached from the things that you've done and sort of in denial about it? I don't know, because obviously I didn't, I didn't know what bisexuality was. Right. I was too young. I don't think they talked about that back in those days.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I wasn't confused about it, Cassie. I wasn't, it didn't affect me. I didn't bother me. I like when I was like a senior and I was, and I fantasized about my friend. Yeah. That had the big car. I didn't think anything, anything more about that. So I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I can't say if I thought it was normal. I just didn't give any thought. I didn't think about it. It didn't, there was nothing I had we thought about. It was just like, hey, I liked this. Yeah, right. Okay, that's good. But I didn't know what it was called.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And even in the 70s, I don't know. I was young. Maybe bisexuality was a word then. I don't know. Right, right, right. But you weren't worried that you were gay or anything like that, is what I'm saying. No, no, no, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Right from us. Right from me of always. appreciated the female body. Right. Right from day one. So, well, day one, when I was old enough to realize. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So now you're dating your wife in high school, right? And you, I think you said, like, you put on, like, a porn or something with her. Like, now there's, like, you guys are watching porn together or something goes down, right, where you say you bring it up to her, right? Is that what happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I do have one impression, though, It might have made me, I wonder, if you want to hear it. Yeah. I like, I could term it, a fad ass. You know, the women have, like, Jennifer Lopez or Beyonce type of, the woman's in shape, or she's got a big ass. Yeah. So I like, and my first wife, as my mother once told me, your father said,
Starting point is 00:19:20 you got the girlfriend at the time, go like a brick shit house. Well, when I was young, my grandmother, my paternal grandmother lived out of camp, and it didn't have a running water. The water came. They ran a line out to the lake that had one of those old-fashioned pumps, so they pumped the water in and boil it before they used it. So we had to have an outhouse. Oh, my God. Okay. So in the middle of the night, if you had to go to the bathroom, which.
Starting point is 00:19:53 My brother and I was this kid. We didn't have to pee in the middle of the night, but my grandmother and her husband would, so they had a pot that they were peeing instead of going out to the outhouse. One time, my grandmother was up, and I'm awake for some reason. She doesn't know. I'm awake, and she's peeing, and she stands up, and she bends over at her waist.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And so there's her ass looking at me, And I get this weird feeling went over me and so and I'm an ass man so I often wonder Jesus wasn't seeing my grandmother bent over at their waist
Starting point is 00:20:36 make me an ass man talking about impressions right right you don't know right if that got wired into you because that was like a first Woody yeah no it didn't really I wouldn't say I felt a weirdness in my in my penis. It was just weird. It's just weird, but I do love the female bottom. That's
Starting point is 00:21:00 less for sure. And I often wonder if that was it. But anyways, I mean, I'm like, yeah, how do we start talking about porn? So I was a lot of time ago. I mean, I started dating here in 75. We couldn't, you know, we didn't come of age where you could really purchase it and go view it because back in those days and as a driver, are falling apart, they all shifted to showing porn. So we go to the drive-in, see some porn, but then we could go rent VCRs and rent tapes. And so how that all came about, obviously it was my, and all my relationships, I've had through me, I make the suggestions.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I asked the questions. We, I might have been when I get to be 18, because she was older than me, went to the driving because I was of age and hey let's go check this out yeah sure I mean she was she didn't ever ask to do anything it's like she never she said she never had any fantasies but she was very open behind closed doors she and I she was open to I mean I don't went down any gas and em roads like that was there but she was very open to okay let's try that right we went to watch the drive and watched the porn and she She was just, that I could reach over there and finger her and she was just ripping.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And so from there I was like, oh, she likes porn. And so only the years we've lost a lot of porn together, that's for sure. But her funny thing about that driving story was her mother asked her sister, you know, where are they tonight? You know, where's Micah and the sister? Yeah. They went to the driving, right? She's just a kid.
Starting point is 00:22:54 She's young and rehab. She's not going to the driving. So the mother gets out the newspaper and she was playing up to driving. She's pulling. Oh, man. When she got home, my wife, my girlfriend at the time got home because she was raised as a good capper girl and this and that. And her mother was just upset.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And so disappointed in my care of her. She never said it heard to me. But, you know, my wife comes and said, oh, my mother was mad. I wonder if they have, that's a very smart, like, I mean, I don't remember them ever playing porn and drive-throughs when I was a little, but, like, maybe I didn't know about it. But that's, like, actually, like, a smart way to, like, you know, to have, like, drive-thus. Because then everyone's, like, kind of in their car and they can fuck, and then they're watching it, right? Like, they should have those now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I'm surprised because to jump ahead a little bit. Well, it kind of flows long. I went into the military. Yeah. And that's how I said. They look, I'm going to go in it because I just, paper mill wasn't for me. I was too undisciplined to go to college. As I would do was party.
Starting point is 00:24:02 So I said, I got to do something. I'm going to the military. I said, you know, I asked for to marry me and come with me. So when we ended up getting a station, they had to say, they had driving. porn. Drive a horn. The porn, the screens face the roads. So you could drive, I mean, it's like kids are driving by seeing this,
Starting point is 00:24:26 but we quickly figured out that the first two films were soft porn. The last two films were hardcore. So I was like, let's get the soft porn. Okay, we need to do such and such a time, get to the hardcore, and we'd go there and sit there and watch, but we didn't do anything in the car. I mean, I might not, I'm sure I finger there. But we'd go home, then we'd go home.
Starting point is 00:24:48 She'd be dripping wet. I'd be ready. I'd be horny and we'd have great sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, so really did watch a lot of porn. That was embarrassing. Yeah, but you brought up the thing about other guys and you with her, right? And that conversation came out through you guys watching porn together.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Isn't that true? No, she, she, she, I never, because I had two relationships. She and I were fantasized because towards you, I was married to her for 18 and 19 years. Towards the end when, you know, when we get into pegging and stuff, I would talk about when I was, when I, you know, banging her, I'd talk about, wouldn't you like to have a big cock right now, a big 10-inch car fucking year right now. Of course, she'd get into all that, but we didn't take, I didn't take the conversation to let's do that. Right. But didn't you talk about, like, see a thing with the guy, fucking another guy, and it didn't bother her that, like, you were into it?
Starting point is 00:25:55 Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, so I did admit to her, I said, imagine 18, 19 years. And you've dated, I was probably with the 23 years. At some point, you know, so now my back's come, my history, you know, with the fan size of my friend of 18, you know, jerking off with my friend. And, you know, I said, I think I want to get people who stick a vibrator up my ass or do it up my ass. And just got down that road. And I bring essentially a straight tape. I say that strangely. But in this straight tape, with this scene, well, this guy is banging another guy. Yeah. And it didn't send me over the edge.
Starting point is 00:26:45 It didn't bother her at all. She's like fine, right? Whatever you want to watch because it's inside the confines of our bedroom, right? That's particular time. He's in the living room. But it's, you know, it's she and I. And she was cool. When it comes to she and I, you don't want to watch male porn?
Starting point is 00:27:05 I don't care, gay porn, whatever you want to watch. I mean, she'd watch. She had no, I had no inclination at all that she had any interest in women. boys didn't get lesbian porn turn her on right but her thing was was it didn't matter it was it was a man looking at a woman or a woman looking a woman she liked a woman she liked a woman she liked to watch a woman get licked right and it really sent her off and so I'm about to ask her one time but no I don't even that's that that's just porn that's yeah that is that's just porn. And so she likes to watch the woman get licked. So, so get, you know, then you get lesbian
Starting point is 00:27:52 porn because there's a lot of women being licked, right. Or it's sex going on. What a conalinger says, they say. But, um, so we never, but, um, we did talk about going to an orgy, and we was, and I said, we'll just go, just you and I, if we like it, you and I will pull up a corner, you and I will, you know, we'll have sex, we'll be just you and I, and, you know, and we'll see how it goes, but something happened. We had to go back to our hometown, and so I had to call up and say, ah, I won't be there tonight, and then we never went back and addressed other again after that. Right, but was she the one that you used a strap on with and let it, like, had anal sac? Like, didn't you do that with her? Was that her or somebody else?
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, all, no, all three, all three in my regular. I had strapped on, but with her, I think a story referring to was she liked to do that too. Like I said, in the confines of our bedroom, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was freaking. Right. So, like I said, one time, so she, she must have had it in me because how did it get it in the end of the office obviously than it is the pussy? So she must have had it in me, like a 12-inch, two double-headed dildo. And she much yes, so she had it in me, and it had to be me. I was always one that asked them, made the suggestions.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Well, how about you turn around and back up onto the other half of this frame? Yeah. And so she's like, yeah. So she backs up onto it and we get it in her. And then we just, I mean, we couldn't have been, well, obviously we weren't going 12 inches apart and slimming our asses against each other. Right. But we's probably pulling out three or four inches because, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:41 And then just slam in our ass against each other. That was cool. Yeah. That was because she had that ass. And that's another thing about those asses. It was like when it's 69, like I could have a sit up. So it was almost like I had one cheek, her ass cheeks would be in my eye sockets. My nose would be hypothetically ganned up her ass.
Starting point is 00:30:10 so I couldn't breathe, you know, she'd be smothering me. And that's smothering. Oh, love that. Right. That's like a thing, right? That's like that thing that some people are into, right? Yeah, yes, it is. And so then, of course, when I couldn't breathe,
Starting point is 00:30:26 and okay, I have to take a breath now. I just push her back a little bit more so I could breathe through my mouth. I mean, I'm wicking her, or pushing stuff. So let's push her back so I could breathe a little bit and should lean forward and you know and um so that was you know what else we'd then we evolved into I'd be doing a doggy style and I was like big ass slapsed that ass and over the years
Starting point is 00:30:53 you know I'd slap her once in a lot but over the years all of a sudden it's like hotter oh and then hot water it was like hotter like I couldn't slap her ass hot enough and I'd get it real close to me like on the, like almost on her, on our, on our, on our asshole. And it's so close to me, I'd hit her so hot, but that ass would, would vibrate almost and I'd feel that in my cock.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And it was like, this is pretty cool. Yeah. So as I'm old guys in it, you know, I've been smacking that ass and she's actually to hit her out of it. So, um, so that was, and then we got, she, we first got married, we tried in a sex. And that was, it was okay. She didn't, she didn't say anything. She didn't tell me to stop, she'd let me finish. But it wasn't my thing. So time goes by, like I said, as is there a long time. Once in a while, I would try it. And then towards the end of our relationship, she got to where
Starting point is 00:32:02 she liked it. And she, and then she started orgasming with, uh, to renal sex. She had a couple orgasms. Every time I put it in her ass, and it's like, message girl. It's tricky. Yeah, she was very open-minded. But let me ask you this, because I know that you said, I want to make sure we get to everything within the time we have to talk, I know you said that during your marriage to her, right?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Besides, like you guys are doing all these great things, and you're living at a lot of your fantasies with her because she was so open-minded. But you also did start hooking up with guys behind her back, right? Yes. Yes. I guess so focused on her. I forgot about that. Yeah, so that was, we married in 80 by 93 or 4, you know, these are just starting to come. And so back in those days, it was pre-internet.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So I go to a book at a bookstore and it sell these little advertising books. Yeah. And I paused for them and I answered an ad. And this guy sends back the answer. and so we must have started talking on the phone, obviously. So I said, hey, my wife's working Saturday morning and won't you come over? His wife knew when I was coming over. My wife didn't know anything about this.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Right. And so I told, I got to go meet this guy. I think I had to send him to look at it. He's got a gun I want to work at. So I go up to his place and we just talked for a while. And he was like, well, what do you think? I said, yeah, yeah. I'll suck your car
Starting point is 00:33:39 So I go to I go to Craw between his ladies in the chair And we kind of both Look to my right His left And there's a door
Starting point is 00:33:48 There was a window in it And it's like We both got to let Well I guess we need to get out of here So we move over to the couch And I'm blown for a while And I finish him off
Starting point is 00:33:59 With my hand And at this point he goes When I go upstairs I watch some poem With my wife Getting fucked by by by guys Oh my gosh I was like, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I figured, why didn't we go upstairs and do this to begin with? Why wouldn't I bully you when you're watching your wife of boy guys? But anyway, um... Was his wife, did you meet his wife or now? Yeah, no, because she wasn't home then she was working. Oh, right, yeah. So he told her, today I got the guy's cool, you know, let's write him over. So I went, I don't know, one weekend I went back and, and, you know...
Starting point is 00:34:34 When she was there. She was a day. We had a threesome. Like I told you, oh, I kind of glossed over that friend of my cousins. I don't know why I'm wired this way, but I just don't get erections with women that aren't my mate. And I don't know why that is. And so I was useless to these people. I mean, I, you know, I'd lick her.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I'd blow him. They both blow me Trying to get me hard He wasn't particularly hard himself I said no If you two have sex Maybe you watch me I might get an hard on But I didn't
Starting point is 00:35:13 And the street was the drawer The end table Was out of bed and pulled it out a fist And I'm thinking What is this? And so She liked to be fested And you were
Starting point is 00:35:25 You did that for her right He's smacking that on her Pussy And I'm thinking And he's working And finally I just took over And I tried to put my fist in there. I couldn't, I didn't
Starting point is 00:35:35 get to push past my knuckles. Yeah. But, you know, she did come and she came over my hand. But I don't know if you want to go back when I first realized I didn't, I don't get hot on without a woman that's not my maid is when I was at that
Starting point is 00:35:51 family reunion when I just turned 18 and so these two cousins of mine come from out of state. I don't know who they are. I've never met him before. One was, I was just 18. one was 20, 1 was 26. And these women of the world, I do believe,
Starting point is 00:36:09 I mean, they were even cornered my 15-year-old brother trying to make out with him. So anyway, we leave the reunion. We go to a party. And then when we leave the party, all of a sudden, the three of them, my cousin, the male cousin was 24. And he was even a whore dog.
Starting point is 00:36:31 off comes the close. I'm kind of like, what? One of them's all over me, you know, and it's like, I didn't wreck out well at all. I mean, you know, it's like, what's going on here? My mind was racing right out of control, you know, my cousins. Yeah. So I was like, this thing isn't getting hot for nothing. And that's the first time I'd ever been a woman besides my wife.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Right. And that didn't work out, but. And those male cousin, those women, I think they continue that relationship. I say, ah, it's crazy. But so after I met that couple, and so from there, I went to back to the bookstore, and I'm saying, oh, they're showing porn out back. So I go back, and there's these holes. I don't know how to think about this.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And I'm watching porn, and the guy sticks his finger in, what the hell is that? So I rubbed his finger back. Nothing happens. I leave. So I go back again later on and I'm sitting there wasn't porn. And the car comes through the hole. And it's like, oh, this is what this is for. Now we know them as glory holes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 And that's true. That was probably 93-94. I left my wife at 98. So for four years off and on, I'd go in there and, you know, suck dick and I get my dick sucks. then one time I met a guy in there and he starts we start talking and he says well come on my house
Starting point is 00:38:05 so I got condoms yeah so I go to have fallen to his house and he was the first guy that ever that ever penetrated me I mean obviously I had to dildos but he was the first man that I ever had you know sex with like that
Starting point is 00:38:20 and so that was cool and that's now I'm transitioning out of that relationship into the my second relationship. And she, another one, I mean, she was open-minded. So now I'm going to be, I've been penetrated by this guy. I bring up to her about gildos, no problem.
Starting point is 00:38:45 You know, she put a strap on on. And, you know, she'd fuck me. And so I took it a step more with her. Because we're just in this relationship. If I blow this up, it doesn't matter. I don't have lost anything here. So I say, I don't know. Like that, men fuck me.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And she's like, hey, I think that'd be cool to watch. And so we, I think by this time, adult friend finder, in the United States here and adult friend finder. So we went on an adult friend finder. We found a guy. He came to the house. She always lives with her. which are always two houses.
Starting point is 00:39:28 She was her houses. And I blew him. Actually, I met him first. She was away. And I met him. And I blew him. And I went home and called it and told her all about it. So she's emancipating on the other end.
Starting point is 00:39:42 But I'm thinking, well, this girl is. This might be the real deal here. So she comes home. We call the guy after it comes over. And, you know, I blew him. She blows him. He fucks her. I fuck my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But he doesn't know. anything with me. He doesn't penetrate me. And that kind of fell apart. You just, I don't know, you just, I don't know what happened. But, um, so I'm back on adult friend find her, find a guy. Say, I'm going to meet this guy because we worked in the same building together. That's how we met. Um, I'm going to meet this guy. So I meet him. I come back. She wants to know all about it. I tell her. Comes in the house, you know, we're watching porn. They're talking. And, um, My girlfriend says, you mind if I take my pants off? And, of course, she looks out like, no, I don't mind.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Very quickly, because we're in the living room watching porn, talking, my girlfriend's riding him. So he had a nice car, and she's riding in. So I'm looking at her pot, and she's calling him, hey, he's looking my ass and shit like that. And that proceeded he went upstairs, you know, and just played the three of us, sucking each other's dick. Everybody's looking at a chicken, looking at a pussy. What's threatened out. I suck his dick, she sucks his dick, sucks my dick, all that. And then he penetrates me.
Starting point is 00:41:07 You know, he would fuck me. And then what I was anything at towards this, what I discovered was, because we didn't, he was a couple of teachers, we got to run really well. He would come in her. I would use condoms when they would do me because of the clungerness factor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And I did, it did. If I'm listening to your podcast, I am a guy who guy, as I do doof myself out before I'm going to be with a man. And I don't know. I mean, I've heard you talk. I read I was talking about, you're right, you're right. You don't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Maybe it's the psychological thing with me, but I do my animal. Yeah. And so when he'd come, with me, when he came, he came in the condom. Uh-huh. So when he'd come and her, then I would then fuck her.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And to have that warm sensation of that cum in her pussy, that was really a turn on to me girl right there. Right. And so that, you know, I've probably only lasted a couple years. I was with this woman for a couple years. Because my now wife, I've known her for 12 years. She was a real good friend of mine. I spent time with her and her abusive boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:42:24 But I go to work out of state. So that kind of puts a divide between my girlfriend and I because now when I went out together. And it was kind of, we actually didn't discuss, how would I move into this bedroom, I pay you rent? So we're getting to that point anyway. And so this. Becoming more like friends instead of like lovers or something. Yeah. Maybe, you know, maybe I'll bang you once in a while, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:47 But it's just, you know, it's going to be friends. Yeah. So I could find a place to live. But now wife calls me up. She knows that through her boyfriend, he and I have friends. So I've told him that I'm looking at this woman that he knew. And I don't know, my name is Julie or something. So he goes home and tells his girlfriend, my now wife.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Mike is thinking about leaving. He's going to call him Julia because she kind of knew who she was. And so she leaves him because he's been abusive to it for 10 years. And she calls me up. And I'm in my state. And she goes, what do you think I'm doing? I'm in,
Starting point is 00:43:29 I'm like, whatever. I left him. She left him three or four times. And every time she leaves him, she'd tell me, and I tell her, don't go back,
Starting point is 00:43:36 don't go back, don't go back, but she always isn't back. And so I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, here we go, we're doing the lesson.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Now I left him. And I said, whatever, babe. I didn't call it, I call it babe, but I didn't call it babe then, whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And, and so we talked, and can I call you tomorrow? I'm all by myself. working out in town. Yeah, I call me tomorrow. And I can tell when the second or third phone call that something's different here. You know, she's, I'm not like six or two, you know, 240 pounds. So I like my women with big asses. The second female I was with had a big ass built the same way with my first wife. My first wife was more prettier. This woman just had a big ass. And we'll
Starting point is 00:44:24 Like this woman, my, my wife was my friend. Good fun for 12 years. I didn't look at it that way. She's not even five, she's like five foot seven of an inch tall. I measured her one time as we got together. It weighs like 115 pounds. Tiny, yeah. So I never looked out of that way.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yes, she had a cute little figure. Today's cute little figure. Right. Right. She was low. So I'm thinking, huh, I think she likes me. Yeah. Why, what, you know, so it's like, okay, because I always, I felt in love with her mind.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Obviously, if I, if I were, if I had been about her body, she was too small for me, but it was her mind. She is funny, this woman that ever met, she has a quick wit and a sharp tongue. Right. And I felt that over those 12 years of friendship, she'd get on me and should ride my ass and with, laugh and laugh and laugh. So, but when she's calling me, it's like, hmm, she likes me? I'm thinking, what do I want to do?
Starting point is 00:45:30 Yeah, you know, she's a small petite woman. She doesn't fit my big-ass theories. And so I, um, I, so I'm going, I'm coming home. I'm going to play a golf tournament. And I'm going to drive right by where she works and lives. So I call it up and I say, um, hey, I'm going to be driving. seven and three, we want to get something to eat the supper, and she's on shore.
Starting point is 00:45:56 So we go to this pizza joint, have a pizza and beer. And, you know, a little footsie going on. She, she's, every, it's summertime playing golf. I got shorts on. She's got a skirt on. She's got out of work. So all the legs are bumping up against each other and stuff because we stood across each other in a booth. And by night, I end up at her place, her mother's place, her parents had just put up,
Starting point is 00:46:20 and her mother's at the house where her father's got a trail. travel trailer, packed out back. So we spend the night in that travel trailer. And so it's on, right? So she's blowing me and stuff, and I'm licking her, but I can't get an erection. Oh, no. Because she's not my mate.
Starting point is 00:46:36 She's not my mate. Yeah. So we get into spooning. Actually, let's get some sleep. I get up already to put a golf. So we're spooning, and not to get up and go take a week. So I come back, so I just open the trailer door up and piss up the trail and close the trailer door and come back in,
Starting point is 00:46:51 and I started spooning again, well, now I have an erection. And, you know, it's like 3 o'clock in the morning. So I was like, hey, it's up now. And so we actually did it twice that night. And that's one weekend. The next weekend, I tell my then girlfriend, you know, this isn't that. We're just fooling ourselves here. I'm leaving.
Starting point is 00:47:14 And so I drive up, I'm driving up the road, telling my parents, I need a place to live. and because she was living up by where my parents were, and I go to her place, and read this from that point on, I ask her, can I, we're going to buy a trailer, can she stay with me, here, your house, and my parents are cool. Yeah, yeah, sure, but she kept asking me,
Starting point is 00:47:34 let me be able to backtrack here. She never asked, she kept asking me, what was it about, let's call her, I don't know, Joan? What was it about Joan? She couldn't figure out, why it was you with this woman? And I wasn't going to tell her about what, you know, I wasn't ready at this point to tell her about my bisexuality and the fact that, you know, we have these guys who'd come over and just one relationship.
Starting point is 00:48:01 That guy came for like two years. But the one time, she thought that she wanted to be with a woman. So we, a little friend finder, found a couple. I met him first. Then I said, up, I think this will work. We're going on. We meet him. And we leave and we go back in the other night.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And we all four of us end up in bed. And my then girlfriend, you know, they each other with each other, so they get to experience that. I don't know what other woman had done that before. Probably she had. But it was the first time that my then girlfriend had done this. Yeah. And another time, I couldn't get an erection.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But I could remote my girlfriend. But not actually, like I said, I jumped off doing her, and I jumped off her, and I put it in her for a little bit, I didn't get a good vibe for my girlfriend, so I went soft. Yeah. So now I'm with my, we're dating at this point, my now wife. I was driving on the road one time, and she said something about a pain in the ass. And I said, well, I hope so.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And she looked at me here strangely. What do you mean by that? And I said, you know why I was with Joan? I'll tell you why I was with Joan. Because I'm a bisexual. She wanted to experiment with her bisexuality. We met a couple. And, you know, and then it was from there.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I just spoke my guess about what were you at the heart, you know, about the guy that came by for two years and about the couple. So, well, that's the conversation. We get home. We're still having this conversation. She's asked me questions. She's confused. She grew up. Her mother was very religious.
Starting point is 00:49:41 She was with the shirts twice a week, one days and Sundays. And Sundays, you know, then they're also through the Sunday. school in the Sundays. So she just doesn't understand that stuff, right? She didn't go up this way. But it was later on the night we're in bed. I noticed a funny look comes over her face. I said, listen now. She's, I don't know, but I'm having these really weird thoughts. And I said, well, I don't know. I think I want to try this. A guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, well, sure, what do you want to do? And because Her abusive boyfriend she had was a fucking huge car.
Starting point is 00:50:22 You talk about this, listening to this Will guy on your podcast, the woman that was Will. Yeah. And she said they had like eight inches around and 12 inches. My wife could take that guy. Right. She could take that thing. Either down their throat or up a pushy, she could take that guy. Back on an adult friend find.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Now I need to do she had an adult friend finder. And we find a guy. We could communicate with him quite a bit because he lives a couple hours. a couple hours away. So he's going to be in our neck of the woods. So we meet at a restaurant. And then there's a hotel next door, and they all agree to go next door. And the first thing we do is we get in the shower.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And so the three of us in the shower, and she's just between the two of us, and she's just looking at me. Like, this bright eye is like, what now? That type of look, and I just gave a little look. I looked at all my knock down to the woods is caught. And so she reached down and she starts soaping it up and cleaning it. And, of course, she's doing her same to me. and she's like, wow, this is really cool.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I got two cars. And from Stroke went to the bedroom, had sex with him, blew him. I don't remember if he blew me, but we blew him and he banged her. And that's when we found out, now I found out, he was running a condom. And my wife rose off and says, if he'll kiss me, why won't he fuck me without that condom? And so the two of us will look at each other and look at her. And he goes, okay, and she pulls his condom off. And, you know, he walked there.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And I said, I was like, what are you doing here? And she said, she had something about latex. You have certain types of condoms she will use and a certain kind of condoms she won't use. And so, whatever. I mean, it wasn't right. But so we, he didn't, but we was looking, because of her boyfriend, we was looking for it.
Starting point is 00:52:13 They're a big cock. And these guys, they tell you they got them, and they don't. Or maybe. They think, well, maybe they think six and six and a half, seven inches is big. Hey, how old was that big? But Jesus got done living in a guy. I had like 12 or 13 inches for 10 years. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And so second guy, and the second guy, he said, well, what 10 inches do? Well, like, well, yes, that's what you got. And we went down. We met him in a hotel, spent some time with him, got to know him. I mean, we always did that. We talked for an hour or so. And then he's up to her. What do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:52:50 I mean, it wasn't verbal. She and I just making eye contact. We talk with our eyes. And so, and we shall we go, and we come out when he was 10 inches. And that was a good time. I enjoyed that one. And she must have too, right? Yeah, because talking, I heard you say, getting past the cervix.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah. And I've read about this. I read Playboy. for 30 years, 30 or 40 years, that they call it, he called it, and they call it and it sounds like a room back there. And as he's slowly, pretty, and she's this tiny woman.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And he's like, wow, and he's kind of surprising. I'm underneath it, except at least 69, and I'm watching it right there, and he's standing on the floor at the edge of the bed, and he can't believe it himself. Wow, you get, oh, I'm hitting your room, I'm hitting your room. And she's just groaning. Just fuck me.
Starting point is 00:53:48 She likes it. She could take it all the way in. All the way. I think she could just will. Yeah. I need to find him. Yeah. So we have a good time. And then, you know, he does me. And I find out, oh, I didn't take 10 inches, too. So that was quite a surprise.
Starting point is 00:54:07 And when we finished the night up, there's two double beds in this hotel room. And he's just barking her for all these world. He's got a lady up around the head. I'm sitting down he had a bed. watching that and her juices is flying all over the place and I'm thinking because she's thinking and she told me later when we was driving home discussed this I didn't sense if you liked that and said what do you mean like that we had a funny look I had a funny look because I couldn't believe what I was watching I couldn't believe your juices were flying right and then we we've met
Starting point is 00:54:40 a few more guys they once again they lie about their size they were out of the that full. That guy wasn't the faster than 10-inch one. Did you ever see him again? No, no, and I don't know I don't know why we didn't.
Starting point is 00:54:59 We never... Are you still with her? What's that? Are you still with her? Yeah, we're still married. I actually told about a dream I had the other night. But we, this was
Starting point is 00:55:12 probably been 10 years and I was just that had a man. I don't know why. We just, we just kind of tripped away. I wasn't really, because of that religious upbringing, she, she, she, I got it almost like, get her over that hump, you know, and this is like, ah, this isn't right, this isn't right, like, get it over that hump,
Starting point is 00:55:32 and it's game on. So how much do I want to push this? I'm not 100% sure, because she really want to do this, but she does it. Probably 2010 was the last time I've been with a man, and we didn't, and she wasn't into that. I think it was the guy himself. She walked away and said, and you guys do what you got to do. We were in a sauna a place in a place that
Starting point is 00:55:55 other than. But it was a both. And there's couples. It was a hotel beside it where they'd go swing, but it started in their sauna and just getting you know, getting their groove on, so to speak. And so, you know, she had me, I ended up,
Starting point is 00:56:11 you know, I was doing a doggy style while I was sucking his dick. And so, you know, it would come and then And we just laughed, left the poor guy there. Like, oh, let's see you later. But only four or five years ago. You know, having a few beers. And I come home and I get the others, and I went on a bell front finder,
Starting point is 00:56:30 and I, you know, we did a thing. And she caught and she found it. I didn't tell her if I did it. Times I'd go on, she always found her. Like, I would do it. Then I'd, then I'd reach out to somebody, and then I would tell her about it. She always catch me before I'd even tell her. So I think there's a little bit of trust issue there, too, which makes me hesitant to push her to do this stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:54 But four or five years ago, so like I said, I go back on there, I had a couple beers, put another profile on there. And a guy hits me. And that's like a Friday night, Saturday morning, she sees it. So what's doing my phone, you know? But anyway. So she's okay. Let's do this. And so we're getting ready.
Starting point is 00:57:14 We're going to meet. We're going to go to his house. and I'm in the bathroom. She's all set. Whatever I'm doing, finishing up. And getting prepared, getting ready, whatever. And she just thrust her pelvis towards me and goes, the juices are just running down my legs.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And so it's like, that's what I want to hear, right? Yes, I got her over that hump. I got her to leave her religious past and get to the other side. But then she Googles the guy. I'm on meeting this guy. So I, you know, I text them and I'd say, you know, the gigs are, you know, who you are. He played boys.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Don't play tour with me. So I just stopped texting with him. So from that point forward now, we just, you know, we're fantasizing. We always, you know. But you don't go behind her back and do stuff, right? No. No. I haven't done that once.
Starting point is 00:58:17 When we first, very first started dating, I went back to that. adult bookstore and an older I kind of think back about it now he actually took
Starting point is 00:58:30 me in a room we pulled out his teeth and gave me a gross but but that that
Starting point is 00:58:37 wasn't we weren't even married we were married within 10 months right and you're together for a long time now
Starting point is 00:58:44 yeah 17 days this time we were married so after that never again no not without her being there. So we fantasize. We fantasize about big cars.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And that's what we're doing now. So I'm thinking it's time. I find your podcast. And it's time to stop bringing this out because I can bring it out. You know, it's just, it's hard on to find a, you know, how do you go about finding a good guy? I don't know. And it's going over to see the show and see an end. Lisa Ling, this is life. She did the thing about swingers. And You heard to her at New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:59:23 They took over a hotel, and I've heard that on your podcast before. Yeah. That's what I want to do. So I don't know. So I'm going to, now it's like, okay, it's been 10 years. I'm going to be 10 years next month of May. That's my birthday. I can tell more stories about what she's done on my birthday.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Like going to Florida, there's a place called Rooftop Hotel down there, which is a Springer's hotel with a pool on top. She took me there for my 50th birthday. I surprised the hell out of me. They only wanted her time. or anything on her own. But, um, so, I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:59:57 now we'll get the virus. So everything's done now. Yeah. But when we get through all this, and we'll tell them, let's say, babe, I want to go to an orgy,
Starting point is 01:00:05 and we'll set boundaries. It's one thing. She didn't have to set boundaries. It's been with five men, well, six men. She didn't participate with a six one. She,
Starting point is 01:00:13 you know, she just, like, that's what you want to do. And I said, I did a doggy style. Why I sucked them all. Why I sucked them.
Starting point is 01:00:19 But, you know, set some boundaries. let's go in origin, you know. And it's like, I don't want, I'm not in it for women. She knows that. Let's go. Probably if we can find a boy, wouldn't that'd be great,
Starting point is 01:00:31 but generally they're heterosexual as far as I know. And let's go. And if we find a guy that at Gork and we have a connection, you know, you can bang them. Otherwise, it's just you and me in a corner. Like the same conversation that's my first wife. It's just you and me in a corner. and I really think should be up for that.
Starting point is 01:00:53 But now this freaking virus shows up. Yeah, there's no orgies that are going to happen. And who knows when that's going to be able to go down? Yeah. But at least, you know, considering how old you are and when you sort of been doing these things, you've been very lucky, right, that you've been able to sort of let most of your freak fly fly,
Starting point is 01:01:15 with most of you, especially your last two, right? The first one you were doing stuff behind her back, but she knew a little bit of what you were into. You've happened to be with three very open-minded women. You've been able to live out most of your fantasies, and you're still with a woman that's down and open, and you're going to be able to do even more stuff with her. So, I mean, you're one of the lucky ones.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah. That means I get my open in next month. It's been to 10 years because of my breath says. It's been 10 years. I'll get through this virus. Let's go into an energy. But the thing about, I do flash back to my first wife periodically because when, unfortunately, for reasons I don't have time to get into, she wasn't a very intelligent woman. And there's reasons for that.
Starting point is 01:02:01 She was dyslexic and they didn't catch her into a Catholic school. And she was waiting for the fourth grade before I even realized she couldn't read. You know, she said no self-confidence with her intelligence. But if I figured, well, you don't have any intelligence is you. What are your borderline nipramaniac? So she says, all we have is sex. A whole relationship is based on sex. That's okay when they're 20, 25, 30.
Starting point is 01:02:26 It's 35 now. Let's talk about peace in the Middle East. You know, let's talk about, you know, whatever. And didn't have that with a second girl was the antithesis of that. She was very intelligible, very intelligent. So that's what besides a fat ass was her intelligence. Well, Micah, I can have a way to sit based on sex. And I looked at her and I said, no, I can't.
Starting point is 01:02:52 But I flossed back periodically that when she said that, I could have really pushed the boundaries that. I think she would have done whatever. You want to be with a man? Let's be with a man. Right. And I'm thinking she was so, you want to go to an origin? Let's go to one origin.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Yeah, because you weren't shoving things in your ass with her. I mean, like, and she saw you getting into guys online. Like, she would have been down if you would have taken it to the next level, for sure. Yeah. But you've been lucky to have that with other women. Yeah, I don't know how it worked. But the weird thing is neither one of the street, none of them fantasize, which I don't understand. But, first I mean, she'd have been double penetration.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Right. Because she loved it in her eyes. I'm saying, man, I could have been double penetration with her. She did, I think she would have taken. I think she could have involved in. I've done trains, gangbanks, because she just liked it. Yeah, but I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know why you're not, like, the wife that you're with now,
Starting point is 01:03:52 it sounds like she'd be down for a lot of things, too, considering the stuff that you've done with her. I mean, I just recently tried to get it fantasize, and your podcast has got me to talking to her and hear different things, and I try to get, and she knows I'll listen to you. Yeah. Because she calls it porn. And I said, it's not porn. I should ever listen to it? No, no.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I'm going to say, look, you say this is porn. I say I'm just listening to a voyeurism. I'm just being a voyeur, listening to people talk. So here, listen to this. So I don't think I'm going to listen to this. If this goes out, gets posted out, I don't think how it was this, because I don't want it at all about the glory holes and all that stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 You are the first person. You are the only person I've ever told that to. Right. You talk about being a therapist, like, I'm getting my therapy now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everyone else will be hearing it, too. But I'll totally change your voice, so nobody will know it's you. But so, so in this past week or so, you know, would make a love.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And I start, and I'm licking her. I say, well, you know, tell me your fantasy while I lick you. And she doesn't. And she apologizes for it. So, so then I hear, we were doing a doggy style. So I thought, I think it was the one that did the five black guys. that girl on your pod podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:13 So I talked to me about my gang bang. And I started talking about how it would be with a gang bang and you know because she's got a deep throat and a deep pussy.
Starting point is 01:05:22 So I've said this two in the past. Let's put 12 inches up your pussy and 12 inches down your throat when she's so short. Maybe they meet in the middle and she'll look at me and go what are you trying to do?
Starting point is 01:05:32 Make me morning? So she's so you know, so she's there. Yeah. So it's just a matter how you're fine two guys the 12-inch trucks and I don't know
Starting point is 01:05:43 that's the struggle I think listen I think you can I think when Craigslist and we're going to wrap it up now because under quarantine I don't have many hours to myself but let me just tell you this that like when there was when Craigslist was around it would have been
Starting point is 01:05:57 probably really easy for you to find that you're not looking for a woman which I think is harder when you're a couple you're looking for like if you put an ad out right if your girl said I'm down with having other guys fuck me and you put an ad looking for like two well-hung guys to fuck my wife you're going to find guys okay it's just going to be a matter of like who you're going to pick you know what you mean and where you're going to post that ad i
Starting point is 01:06:20 don't know where people do it now because craigslist isn't around but i really feel like it won't be that hard but right now because we're all the whole fucking world is quarantined it's going to be a while but you know let me know when that it goes down that's interesting because i've never posted that way. It's always been looking for a guy to do me and to do her. Just to flat out have her post, I'm looking for
Starting point is 01:06:47 two well-hung men. I'd have a fun of that before. And also, if you do it from your standpoint, like I'm looking for two guys to fuck my wife, you might find more by guys because you want the guys to be by two because you want to dabble with them, right? So I think if it's more from your point, it's
Starting point is 01:07:03 the cuck-holding thing is a part of it. It's more so a lot of times it's more by guys that are into that. So I think if you make sure that you're included in that, you're more likely to get by guys that want to do it. But I think it'd be, you know, you have to put it in there like, I want guys to fuck my wife while I watch. And I don't think.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And I think it should come from you, like I said, not just your wife, but from you. Add that in and see what you get. But I don't think it'll be hard for you to find guys that way. Right now it's going to be hard because we are talking during the quarantine and it's difficult. I'm glad I got to talk to you for this long. You know, my son interrupted us a million times, but I'll edit that shit out. Nobody will hear it.
Starting point is 01:07:44 But thank you for, you know, working through it with me and, you know, patiently telling your story. And I'll keep you posted when I air it. But it'll be soon. Thank you for being my surface. I've never told anybody this stuff before. Yeah, it's good, right? As far as my, that glory whole shit. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:08:05 But when you hear it back, it'll be really. really interesting for you. You'll see. Thank you. Because I did tell my wife about the pedophile and the guy that brought me and showed me masturbation. I don't think I told him about the guy that he was putting a pecker in my mouth. But she did not. I was talking about that guy. It was a big dog. My friend, I need to call him up.
Starting point is 01:08:24 And she's like, yeah, that's fine. If you know this guy. I said, well, you know her sister? Your sister's married to my uncle. She said, okay, about that. I don't know. I don't know. Your uncle's wife is a whack job anyway. So it's like, how do I coach my friend? You know? So, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I have a secret. You know, so we have secrets. I got a secret for you. I want you to fuck my wife. Right, imagine. I'm a normal 99.9% sure I'd say yes. Yeah, well, listen, when the quarantine comes off and you go do these things, please call me and come back on my show and give us an update.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Probably by the end of the year. I mean, you know, a couple months this stuff is going to blow over. I'm assuming by, like, like September, then maybe, hopefully things will be back in action. So when you get those things going down, let me know. And let me know what you think after you listen to the show.
Starting point is 01:09:15 And thank you so much for calling in. Okay, Kathy. Thank you. And being so honest. Talk to that. Sorry. Okay. Okay.
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