Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 347 - Jim and his Wife Both Have Long Term "Relationships" with Other People

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

Jim and his wife both have long term "relationships" with other people and he calls in to talk all about it. How do they make it all work? Do they have any rules or regulations? What exactly goes down between him and his "girlfriend"? Tune in for all the details which include his cuckold fetish and how his wife satisfies it, his dominant/submissive relationship with his side piece, the swingers parties they attend and what exactly goes down at them, their experience with golden showers, chastity devices, electro stimulation and chopsticks (?!,) how he learned to orgasm without ejaculating, how sex life is with his wife now and a whole lot more. Tune in to hear his other episodes: 376 - Jim's Wife Hooks Up with her Booty Call and Jay is No Longer a Sex Addict 311 - Jim is Into Hardcore Tease and Denial 196 - Jay's Wife has Multiple Lovers and he Digs It To see anonymous pics of Jim and his wife + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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about my show, about people who have been on my show. You'll get to actually ask me questions as well that I can include on the Q&A. And then there's a $5 tier where you get all the part twos of my guests as well as early access and the Q&A. I have a guy. The guy that was on recently, Jamie has a girl, a new girlfriend who's totally into him being bisexual. Well, I have a part two on him that is airing any day now on my Patreon. So if you want to hear when I went down with that girl and what's going on with him now, join my Patreon. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Today I have on a guy named Jim. Now you're going to have to go into the description. I'll put on the numbers of his previous episode. Jim is, a guy that's into a lot of different things. His first time he called in, he talked all about his cuckolding experience with his wife. Another time he called in and talked all about teas and denial. Both of his previous episodes are super fascinating, just like this one. So he called in again and he was like, oh, I wanted to talk about my DS interests. I'm like, what the fuck is

DS? You'll find out what DS is. But he goes into all kinds of things, even more so than just the DS. It turns out that besides having this whole cuckled relationship with his wife where he lets his wife go and hook up with other guys. I mean, she has two long-term boyfriends. He talks all about that, how long they've been dating, what she does with them. And she does her stuff with them separate from him. That's what he dig. She goes, she does her thing. She comes back, tells him about it, and he's fucking horny for that. He also happens to have some women on the side. He has a long-term girlfriend as well. And they do a lot of things together, including DS, which it's actually dumb and sub. It's like a dominant, submissive thing. They go to these parties. They've been going

to these parties. And a lot of crazy shit goes down and he talks about what they do at these parties. He talks about her other guy she has and three sons that have gone on with all of them, I think. not I think she he talks about when he's last seen her they're also into golden showers what else does she do she does all kinds of crazy things to him and he talks

specifically about that he talks about his tease and denial some he talks about the difference between orgasming and ejaculation and he really explains the difference and he talks about how he

can ejaculate or have an orgasm without ejaculating, right? You got to listen to him. I don't know. He's fascinating. Besides being fascinating, he's actually a really nice guy. I have to tell you when New York City got on fucking lockdown, this was a guy who had just emailed me and was like, hey, how are you?

Like, how are you and your son? And I thought that that was like super thoughtful of him. Then we just started chatting. And then he was like, oh, I could tell, I could come back on the show and maybe we talk about this. And it turns out to be like a great episode, like I said, because he just feel back later. He also gets, I forgot about it.

He gets into Chasty devices. he's very into that as well as electros stimulation. He touches on that a little bit too. So like I said, he's super fascinating. He has a lot to talk about. He has a great relationship with his wife. They've been together forever. They are older, but still getting it on all the time.

They have a great sex life with each other. And they have great sex with other and they're totally cool with each other. These are people that have no boundaries. And I think it's because they've just been with each other for so long and have such a good relationship that it's just the whole cuckling and them having an open relationship really works for them. But in this episode, we're talking more so about what he does with his girlfriend, his long-term girlfriend. So anyway, stay tuned because this is a good one. I'll be right back on with Jim. Jim, right? Yeah, because it's a little confusing, the backstory on Jim.

And me and Jim are just having like a five-minute conversation about like who he's going to be on this show because he's been two other people in the past and I was going to be like, let's just pick one name, but then I'm like, I'm just going to have to explain the whole fucking thing because it's just too confusing to try to lie about it. It's easier to explain. The first time you came on, right, you were Jay. You just used an initial of your name, right? The next time you were Jim, but you're, and I'll put the numbers to your first, your other two episodes, right?

One episode was all about your cuckolding experience, right? and another episode was all about teas and denial. They were two very... Yeah, they were two very... They were separate, but they're both your experience, right? So people should definitely go and listen to those if they want to hear all about teas and denial or they want to hear about your cuckolding experience.

Now, the cuckolding thing is a very big topic that is very highly downloaded. I think a lot of guys have that fantasy. You live it. I know that you had wrote in recent... recently we've been in touch you always reach out an email and we've spoken via email right since you've been on right um and then you that's correct and then you did say you had an update and you know i you use the term d s and a lot of times i don't google because i'm like i just get it

straight from the person's mouth right because like while i'm reading your email you use ds this ds that right i'm like what the fuck does ds mean and i know i'm going to be like duh when you say it but what is ds experience like what is ds stand for well most most people would call it dominance and submission oh i guess it's all part of the genre of the bdsm but yeah oh my god there's very little bondage very little uh sadism so it's just dominance and submission i suppose oh okay that that goes in somewhat with cock holding because that's a submissive type of behavior and teeth and denial certainly is yeah I was gonna say for sure that has come up in other conversations when it when people have talked about stuff that

they're into that's along that line because you did say that you do like being submissive right and submissive to women that's probably something that I don't think we've really talked about maybe we touched upon that in the cuckolding episodes I don't remember just just just barely I mean because it's kind of a submissive activity, but I don't do anything submissive within the cuck holding other than she has sex with other guys. I'm not involved with, you know, being submissive to her or to them or any of that stuff. So it's really, it's not a dynamic that enters into that aspect. It's just that she's free to have sex with whom she wants to have sex with.

I'm very rarely ever present. And if I am present, then it's, I'm usually in another room. Sometimes I watch most of the time I don't, but there's no dominance or submission in the bedroom there, other than the fact that she's with another guy. You know, if you want to call that submission, that's fine. I don't care. Right, right. Everybody has their own definition for something, you know. Yeah, and I think a lot of people, and I've learned by talking to people who are into the whole cuckolding fantasy or however is the correct way to say it, but that I think a lot of people think if a cuckold has to do.

include that humiliation aspect of it but it doesn't necessarily right I mean to say that you're into the cuckold it doesn't have to have that part involved I don't think yours did right it's not like you like to be quote unquote humiliated no there's no humiliation at all as a matter of fact I'm very very proud of the fact that she's open enough to have sex with whoever she wants to have sex with it's like a feather in my cap there's no humiliation there at all there's no I've heard the term cuckold angst i don't even know what the hell that means because i'm not angst at all it's just it's a lot of fun you know and i really enjoy the fact that she's enjoying herself and if i get to watch that's an added bonus because it's just it's really it's like watching your own porn

movie only you're involved with it so you know yeah let me ask you this if you do enjoy watching how come most of the time you're not there watching because uh she feels uh inhibited if i'm around and I don't want her to be inhibited. And I think she's somewhat shy and she's somewhat of a private person. So I think she's more open and she's, you know, she's freer to do whatever she wants to do without having to worry about me judging her. Not that I would, but that's the way, you know, I think she just doesn't want to have to deal with that. So it's also, I think in the truest sense, when she can be free and have sex with other people,

people and I'm not involved or I'm not present, then she's really doing it because she wants to. It's not something that she's got to involve me in. Right. It's not like she's doing it for you. Right. Right. Absolutely. And that's more of a turn on for you, right?

Like you want to really know that she wants to go out there and be with other guys, like, and then bring those stories to you. Absolutely. I see the two guys that she does see when the phone rings and one of them is on there, I can tell because her eyes just light up. I mean, she's just. Oh my goodness. Yes, it's going to happen.

You know, so it's a lot of fun. And now are there any, I mean, I don't remember our, every detail of that, of the call when we spoke about the, you know, your wife being with other guys. So I have to ask again, do you, does she have like an emotional connection with them and or is there boundaries that you guys set in place before she started playing with other guys? there's no boundaries other than the fact that she's got to be safe and so she's been seeing this one guy for like 17 years and the other guy for like 14 years oh my god yeah you know so their long-term relax you can't see somebody for 17 or 14 years without having some kind of a relationship yeah they're strictly i mean they're fuck buddies they like one another uh one guy's more talkative than the other guy from what she tells me because i've never even

I've met the one guy. I've met the other guy. And so she feels like one guy is more of a boyfriend material and the other guy is more of a fuck buddy material, I guess is the best way to describe it. Isn't it one of them married? Both of them are. Oh, both of them are married. Right.

Now, do their wives both know? Not to our knowledge. They don't. Right. She never calls them. They call her. She doesn't. If she gets a call at 3 o'clock in the morning and she doesn't return it with a.

in 20 minutes, she won't even return the phone call because she doesn't want to get involved with anybody's, you know, marital issues. And we don't, we don't, when I say we, neither she or I pry into their relationship with their wives. So, right, no questions asked kind of thing. No questions asked. You know, we don't discriminate because they're married. It's like they're doing what they do. I would imagine they love their wives. They're doing what they do because they're having fun. And I mean, she is the unicorn for somebody to have sex with because she doesn't get emotionally connected with them other than the fact that they like each other you know right as people but she has her you know what i think happens and why a lot of girls

aren't the unicorn in that situation is that they don't have their emotional needs being met anywhere so you know if they're sleeping with you then they're going to be like oh now you need to fill me emotionally as well right whereas your wife has her emotional needs met through you right so if She's really looking to have, you know, sex on the side. She's not going to look to get any more emotionally from those guys because she's getting it from you. Whereas I think a lot of girls that are having booty calls, most of the time they're doing that when they're single, right? And so once they start having sex with a guy, then they're like, oh, now I want something more, right? Because they're not getting that anywhere else.

And so that's the problem. But I think with your wife, because she is, it makes sense that she's not going to go doing it. it's different if she was cheating on you behind your back, right? And those women sometimes then do fuck another guy and wind up liking them. That's probably because they're cheating because their guys aren't fulfilling their emotional needs, right? But you and your wife have a great relationship. She just happens, you guys happen to be very open in your relationship. Absolutely.

We have, I can't tell you how close the two of us are. I mean, it's just people would look at us and go, no, you guys don't do that. But we do. And we're extraordinarily close. I think we're very much in love. And this year we'll be together 27 years, Mary 26. So it's,

you know, and it feels like I just met her yesterday. You know, it's new every day. It's great. Yeah, that's amazing. The best relationship I've ever been in.

Yeah. And now, the million dollar question is, do you see other people? Now, I know, because you mentioned in your email that you have another,

you have a girlfriend, right? You put that in quotes. I mean, You have a woman that you see as well, right? So you get to sleep with other people, too? I can. I very rarely ever do.

I recently, well, I guess it was last, I guess it was last spring. It was summer. I can't remember exactly when. I met a girl through a site. She actually contacted me. And all she wanted to do was have me perform a little sex on her. And we met. She got in my car.

very attractive girl. My wife was actually here at the house when she called me. And she said, your wife knows about this? And I said, yeah, she's all for it, you know. My fantasy was like, I don't even want to know your name. I just want to go down and you get you off, have a good time. We saw each other twice. To this day, I don't know her name.

I have no idea how to get in touch with her. It was a blast. It was absolutely fun. All right. I feel like I remember that story on one of our episodes now, or is this new? I think it's fairly new. I might have been... Maybe there's another girl out there that did that with somebody.

I remember somebody else saying, like, they didn't know the name or anything, and they just went down on somebody. I don't know. But so this is, was... Now, have you had other girls before her, or was this the first one? Yeah, we actually tried this, the swinging thing, you know, with a four-some thing. I mean, it's hard enough to get two people to like each other, let alone get four people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody, you know, so we're not taking one for the team.

Uh-huh. And I'm very happy if she gets laid and I don't. I really don't care. It's all part of the, that aspect goes into the tease and denial thing. So it's a lot of fun. I have in the past, I mean, we've done same room, what do you want to call it, swing, swapping, whatever it is. It didn't really work for us. It's not our dynamic.

I didn't like it. She didn't like it. We found it was much better if she gets a little on the side and we're both happy with that. So, you know, it works for us. It doesn't work for everybody. But it works different for different people. Some people would only be, they only wanted to be like a swap scenario and it wouldn't work separate, right? That's correct.

And when you talk about a girlfriend, there's a girl that I've been saying. Yeah, there's a long term one, right? That's the what I'm talking about because you, you told me like you have like done a lot of things with her outside and public venue, right? Like that's what I was talking about. But I've never had, let's put it as I've never had any kind of sexual intercourse with her. The long term girl. Correct. I've kissed her pussy a couple of times.

But she and I have strictly a DNS relationship where I'm the sub and she's the dominant. So what kind of things do you guys do? And how did you meet her? How long is long term? How did I meet her? I don't even remember. When I say long term, I'm talking about like 20 years. Okay.

Maybe a little bit longer than that. Now, I haven't seen her in over a year. She's disappeared off face of the earth. I have no idea where she's on to. Right. So, you know, we would see each other maybe three or four times a year. She had a friend that would come down and visit her from New York. I met him.

The three of us went to a party one time. I met him a couple of times when I've been on trips in New York. I've had dinner with him. I know that he had gotten sick and she was quite upset about it. So they had in a long-term relationship. but yeah i don't know i don't know exactly what it was but when you ask what we have done uh she really enjoys what they call cb t cock and ball torture and uh so we do a lot of that uh she also likes to give me golden showers uh oh interesting i don't know that we've ever

spoke about that either we have not oh okay so wait so now is it something that she got you into is that something that you used to do with your wife or was it something that you used to do with your wife or was it something you only did with her? No, I had never done it before and she she asked me if I would be okay with it and I said, yeah, what the heck, you know? Yeah, try it out. I thought it might be a little terrible, but it's very erotic. I really enjoyed it. I can actually have an orgasm when she does it without actually ejaculating. I mean, it's that much of a turn on. Well, when you say the golden shower, Is she peeing on your cock? Is she peeing on your leg?

Is she peeing just in front of you and you're watching? Like what exactly goes down? Well, we usually go into the bathroom in the shower. And she'll usually run the water and get it warm because she doesn't want me to sit on a cold, you know, a cold floor. Which is very nice of her, you know. And then she usually stands over me and pees and it usually hits me on the on the cock, sometimes on the chest.

She's never peed on my face. I mean, I've got it on, you know, it's splat. up but yeah she want to pee on my dick right you know she seems to really like that and I can see by the way her eyes roll back in her head how turned on she is when she does it right she's into really really turns around and it's um it's not it's not disgusting it's it's a warm feeling and it's and why this is going to sound really weird but watching pee come out of a girl I think is the most interesting thing I've ever seen it's just it it's just it It's so much different than when we pee, you know, when men pee.

Really? Yeah, it's, well, you know, because you don't really know where it's coming from. You just know what's coming down. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, I find it hot as hell. I mean, I'm glad she suggested it. I'm glad I did it. Even my, my wife did it one time, but she's, she's a little shy about it.

And she has some other issues that she doesn't like to deal with. So I'm not going to go into that. Yeah. So she's tried. She liked it. We don't do it anymore. And I've told my wife that that she does that with me and to me. And she doesn't ask for a lot of details.

I don't give her a lot. But, you know, we usually spend an hour or two hours together. And we've gone to several parties. There's one not two. It was actually within a mile of where I live now. It's a very, very exclusive community and a very private, almost kind of like if you ever watch the Tom Cruise movie Eyes Wide Shut, it's almost something like that. You know, it's a gated community.

You have to have a code to get in. They have a code to get into the party. It's usually anywhere from 25 to 40 people there. And she and I are about the only couple that go there where she's where she's a female dominant. There's a male submissive. Most of the people that go, it's usually the reverse. And so. Oh, all the doms are the guys.

and this side so that's something that really I have no interest in it doesn't turn me on I don't even like watching it you know but the people will I call it play and you know while others are watching and as soon as there's a play area available then she'll usually take me out there and you know then she'll do her thing and I usually I will be blindfolded at that time because I'm very shy believe it or not I'm naked in front of a bunch of people that I don't know, and I'm very shy. Oh, right. And I really don't want to look at it.

Yeah. You don't want to see, you don't want to see them watching you, but I'm sure, I'm sure them watching you is a turn on, right? That's a part of it. It is. And I don't care if the men watch. I prefer if the women watch, and they seem to really get fascinated by it from what I can tell. Uh-huh.

Met. this is back when AOL had chat rooms Yeah And she lives in the same county that I live in But I live in the south end of the county She lived in the north end of the county And we had met each other at a munch And

A munch Anyways one night Those meeting places right Yeah I've heard about them Yeah it's like in a public venue You know and people just have You know They eat food and drinking and they just

You know have low key conversations About what they're into There's no dress up or play or anything like that. Yeah. Just like a meet and greet, you know. This is, this is my screen name and this is who I am. And oh, yeah, you really do exist. Yeah. So anyway, she shows up at a party one night and she's really an attractive woman. And she's very dominant. And she had on this really knockout white dress. I mean, just it was a kick-ass, you know, club type of dress, but it was white. And the girl that I was with had me strapped down on a bed and she was coming over.

She was whipping my, my cock and balls. And I looked up and I could see up this girl's dress. And every time I saw her dress, I got hit. And it was like, oh, this is, it was such a fucking turn on. I can't describe it because you're not supposed to be looking up girls' dresses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to get in trouble. Yeah.

And so it was just like this whole fantasy. I went off into what they call subspace, and I think I was there for about two days. I mean, it was just really, really hot. And I'd actually, I didn't get to talk to her that night. So I'd written her an email on this mutual sock. The white dress girl. Yeah. Yeah.

And I said, you know, I'm glad you were watching last night. This is what was happening. I said, you know, and I told her the whole thing. And she was so pleased that I was getting my dick whip because I was looking up her skirt. so yeah it's kicking but it's fun yeah yeah yeah wait can you just tell me how you get invited to the one of those parties like how did you know but did she know about the party did you know i mean you're both living in that community so who was the one that knew about this party and how do like how do people find out about shit like that right how did those 40 people yeah this was

this started back in the days of the aOL chat rooms right uh there was somebody that i had chatted with that I had met and this girl and I had gone I actually met this this lady she's a she was a a hardcore lesbian that had the most gorgeous wife that I've ever seen. Your Dom? No, no, this other lady. And somehow or another, we had met each other. And I said, you know, you look really familiar. You sound familiar anyways.

I don't remember all the details. And she had a place up in the central part of the state. And she said, I'm having a party next week. Why don't you come? And we did. And this girl and I went up there and went to her party. She had a really nice property, very exclusive area. She had an outbuilding that was actually set up like a dungeon.

And then she said, you know, there's this group right down by where you live. And she said, they have a party every month. She said, I'll put you in touch with them. And that's how I got in touch with them. She gave me their email address and I said, you know, we've been referred to you by so-and-so. And then we got an invitation to go. And then we got the code to go. And, you know, we were vouched for and I guess vetted, you know, there were no names other than screen names.

Everybody, you know, it's kind of like, like BDSM anonymous, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So because people want to, you know, they want to maintain their anonymity so that, You know, somebody doesn't get jealous and decides to, you know, out them or something like that. And now when you show up at one of those parties, because it's like you said it's kind of right down the block from you or it's very close to where you live, do you walk in and do you know anybody that you know in your regular life that's there or was it all strangers to you? Well, you know, you're going to find this hard to believe. But I worked at a place. I can't tell you where.

Yeah. And we were, my wife and I were actually at what they call swing club. Yeah. We just went in for the dancing and the eye candy for me. And there was some back rooms that she and I would go in alone. And one night, this girl that worked in my office was there with her husband. Oh, right. Oh, I guess you come here too.

And then there was another lady that worked there. And I thought, you know, she was always dressed in black and she looked very macabre. And I'm thinking, I know she's into this shit, you know, but you don't walk up to somebody and say, excuse me, are you into DS and stuff like that? You know, you don't talk. So one night we walk into the party and guess who's there, this other one from the office. So, yeah, there's two times I actually run into people that I knew from work. Wow.

And then when you see them at work on Monday, is it like, do you kind of just give each other the look like I know that you know and we're cool and you pretend like business as usual? You know, if anything, I think somebody said one time, did you have a good time? time the other night. Yeah, we did. Right. And that was about it. Right. And that was it. Yeah. And so go on. There was no, there was no discussion to work about it. And certainly we don't want anybody to overhear a conversation, you know, because like I said, this is stuff, you're going to get judged by it. And so you tend to keep it to yourself. And it's a very, you know, it's a community that takes them getting used to, you know, getting to know, getting to know. And now when, because you say, like oh we got invited to this party and mean this girl went like and you've been with your wife

for all this time now does your wife not come with you to this these kind of things because she's not into it or she's not into it she's not into it uh you know i tell her that so and so and i are going to a party tonight and she has a vague idea what it is you know what it's about but she doesn't ask for any details she doesn't want to know any details and we don't discuss him she is not i don't think she could spell dns if you know if you put two letters in front of her. It's just not something that she's got a mindset for. But you must have, because you're so close and you've been together for so long,

she must know that you're into it. I mean, was there discussions early on about the fact that you're into that? And she was like, oh, I'm not, but you could go find somebody who is? I mean, how did you come to know that she's not going to be the D and your D.S, you know? You know, it's not something that. It's disgust. I mean, you know, she might say something like, I don't understand people that want to get hit. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Okay, fine. We're not going to go there and talk about that. Right. You know, I mean, there might be something on like on a TV show where I remember one time on CSI, there was a segment of that had something to do with people into, you know, kinky stuff like bondage and discipline and stuff like that. I don't get that. It's okay, fine. You know. Right.

I said, you know, people. People like it because it's stimulating and she says, you know, she's looking at me like a dog staring at a clock. All right. But so she knows that you are into it, but she doesn't get it and she doesn't care that you go find it someplace else is how it is. Absolutely. That's correct. Yeah. She doesn't care.

And, you know, why involve somebody into something that they're not into? And then when they do that, they just do it to go along and get along. And then it's really. Yeah. if they're not a good actor or actress it's not going to be that much of a turn on right if it's not really real right that's how i feel yeah you know if you have to ask somebody to whip you then it's no fun oh right you know they've got to want to do it you know yeah i mean yeah you're telling me that you're at this party you know and you're blindfolded and she goes up there and she's whipping

your cock-a-ball like so you you know listen how would you lie about that do you can you get bruises on your Dick, like, do you get bruised? Can you bruise? I have. Yeah. Yeah, I have. And, you know, it hurts. And it's not something, it's funny. A lot of people say, well, I like this. It's not something that I like. It's something that I need. It's almost like, yeah, it's just something that I need. It's, you know, it's, it's part of me. I mean, it goes back to when I guess part of my

development being brought up. It's just sometimes it's just a release for me. And because I'm in charge of everything. And I don't want to be in charge of everything. Oh, you mean in a part of, in your professional life, like you're the boss, you're the head, whatever. Yeah. And then so you like to do the switch, right? Okay. Right.

Yeah. So it's it's a total release for me. And I, you know, sometimes when I'm feeling the most stressed out, it's, it's just, it's just an absolute release. It's like, you know, like the best way I can describe it is you've got your. finger pinched and it feels so good when it stops being pinched, you know? Mm-hmm. It's just, uh, but it's almost like opposite. Like you're not being hurt, but you're so stressed out that being hurt actually makes

you feel better. This is right. Like physical pain actually makes you feel better. There's a stimulation and a sexual arousal that goes along with it, even if there's no sexual activity that goes along with it. When I say sexual activity, I'm talking about fucking getting blow jobs, something like that. Right. Mm-hmm.

And is there a release all the time when you're doing this kind of play at these parties? Or is that not even needed? Because you're into tease and denial. So you're somebody that, you know, could go home with a heart on, right? And that's you because you like that as well, right? So. I do. When you ask if there's a release, I guess you're talking about is there an orgasm?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If that's what you mean, I can orgasm. multiple times without ejaculating. And there's a difference between ejaculation and orgasm that 99.9% of men have no idea about. Yeah, explain the difference. I know you've spoken about that before with me, but why don't you explain it again?

All I can tell you is that the orgasm is the actual physical release where the muscles relax and contract and the ejaculation is where the semen comes out. Right. And for a lot of men, it happens at the same time. Those two things happen almost simultaneously. But for me, you know, I guess because I've learned to train my body and I've done a lot of reading about tantaric activity and stuff, I have the orgasm and then I have the ejaculation. And I can have the orgasm without having an ejaculation. Sometimes I can have an orgasm without even having an erection.

Really? And wait, how long is the lag time between? or does it vary or is it typically like a minute later or five seconds later as far as the orgasm and an ejaculation? The ejaculation sometimes never happens. Right. So it, I mean, I've probably had an orgasm that lasted. I mean, when I say had it last 10 minutes, I'm not saying that one orgasm lasted 10 minutes, but there's so many of them. Right.

The whole thing. It almost becomes like I can't take it anymore. It's like, you know, we've got to stop this because it's just, it's almost too intense. And I just keep letting it go. And I remember when we were at a party, both my wife and I, we go to this one party. And it's up in the center part of the state where we live. And I was on a massage table being worked on by about three different women. And I started having these orgasms.

And this guy's just looking at me and goes, my God, how the hell do you do that? Right. And he realized that I wasn't a jacket, but he knew that I was. having an orgasm because you can just see I mean my it almost looked like I was going to levitate off the massage table right and you know matter of fact you interviewed the person that hosts the party so what oh could I say could I take a guess it's the masturbation person owner yeah yeah I've tried I want her back on we I think she had a problem clicking on my link to make a make an appointment

call in and then we had one and she never called. I'm like, what the fuck? And we just, we couldn't get it together, but I really wanted her on recently during this whole lockdown thing, because I was like, oh, what's going down at like a, you know, a swingers club? She owns a, it's Linda Gale. She's got a popular episode that a lot of people still listen to that to this day, because my stuff is on, you know, online indefinitely. So she emailed me. It was like, oh, I still get people that email me, oh, I heard you on this podcast, you know? So yeah, it was Linda Gale and she owns a masturbation, uh,

Swingers Club, right? And I, I know for other people that don't know, like I didn't before I spoke with her, that a lot of times masturbation in a club like that is a no-no, right? Whereas at her club, it's totally okay. That's why it's not like you only go there to masturbate.

It's just that you are allowed to at her club. Yes. And it's, I think it's kind of a misnome. I mean, that's my personal feeling. I think you can call it anything but a masturbation swing club. But that's what she wants to call it. So I'm not going to argue with her.

It's her damn club. Right. So I think that's why I'm probably because no place else is like that. That's how she sort of sets herself apart, right? Right. Yeah. So it's, uh, you know, it was, was really, uh, outstanding. I mean, it's like, people looking and go like, how can you do that?

I don't know how I can do it. I just can't. But you think it's because you've done the whole. think it's a matter of really because you said you could you've mastered your body like really because of the T's and denial do you think that's what taught you is that a part of the tantric thing that you said you've studied that has that what you said tantric right I think you said it a little different than me yeah I that's true and it's I was doing it before I ever even heard the word tantric right I think the way you just described it's because I have trained

myself not to you know go right for the ejaculation that I'm able to do this it it just prolongs it and you wind up having these orgasms while it's going on but but no semen comes out and so you're not it's not like you hit that refractory period where you're you know you're useless for the next couple of hours or days or weeks or a hour or long it takes somebody to recover you know and do you use the chastity um you have yeah uh-huh yeah i have i have I find that the devices and stuff are really, they're more of a novelty than they actually work. But, yeah, both my wife and I have done that.

I mean, you know, I've been in it with my wife. And, you know, I think up to 14 days. But after that, it got to just, it was too uncomfortable. I can't see doing it for long term. But the funny thing is that's very erotic. And that's all you think about all day long as your dick. As a matter of fact, the person that I told you was in the club, she walked into the office one day,

and I was actually having an orgasm just being in the office because I had a chastity device. She didn't know that at the time. Right. You know, and nothing was coming out. It was just that, you know, I was such a turn on that I started having these releases. As a matter of fact, she looked at me and she said,

are you okay? She said I was having a heart attack or something. Oh, my God. That's so funny. Of course, when I met her at the time, club i told her about it you know what happened she's oh yeah she's i didn't know that you know she thought i didn't feel well or something but you said you and your wife have done that together just is there a chastity device that she would use as well as a female no she's she's never worn one i don't think she puts

you in it she's correct right okay and same i'm assuming that you probably play with that while you're with your quote unquote girlfriend that you do all this dumb sub stuff with yeah uh when we go to uh some of the parties uh she has a device she'll have me put it on and uh i'll walk around with it on of course naked with the exception of that and you know people are what the hell is that you know what's it look like i can't get to my dick you know yeah so um yeah that's fun and it's it's kind of uh interesting to be naked like that in front of somebody with one on right and you know you get some puzzling looks and then the girls think it's neat the guys look at you like you're from outer space like the martians have just landed you know yeah they can't they can't come you know it doesn't

compute their lizard brains so right but I really think if anyone has any sort of curiosity about it or once experience that control over their body and be able to have that like become multiple multiple multi orgasmic right just like you really listen to his episode i'll put the number and maybe a link to it down in the description you'll see it uh you really have to listen to the one episode where he calls in and it's all about teeth and denou because it's fascinating i remember being fascinated by it and i feel like any guy that would look at you like a fucking alien if he was forced to listen to your episode and hear about, you know, how it changed you and how it increased your orgasms and what it's done to help you have multiple ones and all that good

stuff. They would want to fucking try it too. Like, why wouldn't they, right? And especially any, any woman in a relationship with a man who comes too quickly and leaves her unsatisfied, if he would just learn. that he doesn't have to get, in his own masturbation, he doesn't have to get off. It will translate and transfer into his relationship what he's having, of course, with his wife, girlfriend, or whoever is a significant other.

And be surprised, it will make things better for both of them. I'm surprised that more women aren't really more into it than the guys, because it's really a great way to train your body not to have to come right away, you know. And I think in the mystic Indian culture, there's even this thing about that they lose their strength if they ejaculates. You know, I don't know if I go that far, but I mean, they get into some real heavy Eastern philosophy that leaves a lot of us from the West just kind of like befuddled as to a actor talking about. Right. But when they say when you, you know, you lose your strength when you ejaculate, they're not saying you're losing it when you orgasm. They're saying that you lose it when you ejaculism.

which you are explaining that's two different things they're not saying you can't have orgasms or saying you don't right you have those orgasms but if you do it without ejaculating you keep your strength is that with the whole thing yeah they describe it as the life force that that seaman is the life force right that it doesn't need to be spilled unless there's a specific reason for it you know right but i think a lot of people right but i think a lot of people would hear that and without knowing that there could be an orgasm without ejaculation, they would just assume that what that, I don't know what you would call that ideology, is saying is that, you know, you shouldn't have orgasms, right, because you lose your life force. But what they're not saying that, they're

saying that ejaculation. No, they're not. No, have as many orgasms as you want, just don't have the ejaculations to go with it, you know. Right. Because the orgasm, trust me, feels just as good, you know. I can go to a legitimate, you know, after some strenuous exercise, go and get a massage, especially on my lower back. When they release the muscles, when they're doing the myo facial release, it feels just like an orgasm. A massage therapist doesn't even know she just gave me one. And I'm on my stomach, you know. Right. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, I could really feel that muscle release. Yeah. And that's an orgasm, you know. Right. for you that's an orgasm right yeah yeah yeah that's crazy yeah and and does your wife like that you don't you know that you could not have I mean I guess it's really good as far as when people are younger and they don't want to get people pregnant that route I think she's I think she's gotten used to it unfortunately I think a lot of women I can't speak for women I'm just this is just my observation

Yeah. Really get the power. They want to see the guy come. They want to see him ejaculate. Yeah. It's like, you know, and if he doesn't, they feel like they've done something wrong. Well, they haven't, you know. And so I think at first she was like, you know, what do you mean you don't want to come?

Well, I'm coming, sweetheart. It's just that I'm not ejaculating, you know. And now she, now she can sense that I'm actually having these orgasms. Where before, you know, when we first got, when I first told her about this, she's like, like you gotta be crazy or something. But she's okay, it's harmless. I'll go along with it, you know. Yeah.

And she wasn't, she wasn't losing anything out of it. You know, she wasn't like I wasn't taking care of her needs. So, you know, now I think she likes it, you know. It's like, now she knows she can come over and she can play with my dick for an hour and she doesn't have to worry about quote, getting me off, end quote, you know. Right, right, right. Just enjoy herself. So, so it's like, I've heard.

some women say, oh, yeah, I get, I feel so powerful when I make them come. Okay, I understand that. And sometimes she says, you know, you're coming tonight whether you want to or not. Right. Because that's what she wants. Right. Yeah. Right.

You know, and I get that. I understand that, you know. Yeah. And if you're submissive, then you give them the power to do it or not do it. So, you know. With your wife, do ever, I know that your wife doesn't, you guys don't do the DOM sub with each other. So do you, are you always more the initiative?

or you're just equal partners when you're with your wife and you're only the sub when you're with this other woman Yeah, I would say that we're pretty much equal and you know she initiates it about half the time and I initiated about half the time I think we both know what each other's horny So it's like you know we we don't really have to discuss it we we can pretty much sense it you know And we you know, we even as long as we've been together we still have We've slowed down we still have a lot of sex especially for somebody, you know, where we're at stage-wide. Right.

And what was the last time you saw your quote-unquote girlfriend? And is she married? I don't think she is. Right. I don't think she's ever been married. I think she's had some relationships with people. Probably a year and a half, I guess. I haven't seen her.

Right. Okay. Oh, she the one that you're like, I don't know where she, she fell off the face of the earth, right? Is that the one? Yeah. Right. Yeah.

And several years ago, she disappeared for a while, too. So, um, oh, maybe that's when she's in a relationship and maybe she feels weird about being with other people or something. That could be and I don't pry, you know, if I don't, if I don't hear from her, I have her phone number, but I don't call her, you know, she has ways of getting in touch with me if she wants my attention. So, um, I leave that up to her, you know. What other things that you guys do together, like when, you know, as a sub and.

well we've gone out to dinner and just you know had a nice quiet dinner and chatted my wife knows her yeah you know the three of us have been out to dinner together the four of us have been out to dinner together when she's with this guy that comes down from out of state oh okay so my it's not like my wife doesn't know who she is she does oh she does and yeah and she'll even say you you know you know Jim needs to go down and see you or something you know So and I always I always tell my way I'm going down to see her, you know, when that happens. Yeah. And so is your wife like you or she likes to hear the stories about you with someone else?

Because you've said most of the time with her with your women, it's like a don't ask, don't tell situation. So no, I don't think she particularly does. Right. So I don't bother telling her. Yeah. But some of the other things. When I first met her, you know, I, I don't know. I thought I was into spanking so she would spank me.

But she decided, you know, what she really likes is she likes to, you know, torment my dick. Right. And she does that in various ways. Like how? Well, she likes to hit it. She likes to, she's got some implements that she likes to smack my balls with. Not, I mean, hard enough to where, yeah, I know that she's doing it,

not hard enough to where I'm going to throw up or anything. a couple of times. It's like she's brought me close to my tolerance level. One of the things that she loves to do that I absolutely hate because it hurts so damn much, is she uses these little wooden Chinese chopsticks right on the tip of my dick. And they sting like about 50,000 bees. I mean, it really stinks. And so she likes to do that.

And we've played with some electrical stimulation and stuff. That almost feels too good. It really doesn't hurt. So we don't do that very often. But, and she likes to pee on me. I mean, those are the things. I tell her, you do what you feel comfortable doing. Yeah.

You know, so she has a bunch of different implements. Most of the time, I'm blindfolded, and I don't even know what she's whacking me with. I just know that this feels different than that. And that stinks. and that hurts. And we have a remarkable chemistry together. She knows when to back off. She knows when to go harder.

We used to have a say for it. I don't think we even use it. We use one anymore. Did that, was that chemistry, like, immediate? Or did it come through you guys, like, communicating with each other? Because how would you know these things about each other if you didn't have a lot of sort of conversations in the beginning? Great question.

It was pretty much immediate. It was. Yeah. Uh-huh. You know, I had tried to play with some other people, and I was always somewhat disappointed in the first time I met her. And we actually got down to it. We discussed what she wanted to do and what I wanted to do. And, you know, we came up with a safe word.

But from then on, she and I don't do a lot of talking. It's strictly, it's a very sensuous, almost hardcore DS. I mean, she starts to pinch my nipple. I mean, she really pinches and they hurt. They'll hurt three days afterwards. Right. And, you know, when I go take a shower, I really notice it because they're stinging. And she loves it.

You know, she'll even maybe text me and say, do they still hurt? And I think, yeah, they do. She'll give me a big smiling face, you know. So she likes doing that. I mean, it's a real termina for her. Uh-huh. And, you know, so I just let her take the lead. Whatever she feels like doing, that's what she does.

And, you know, there's no nonsense. I think she even got angry at me one time because she started putting clothespins on my dick and it made me actually ejaculate. And that really pissed her off. That you ejaculated? Yeah, I did because she wasn't ready for me to come. Matter of fact, I think I've only actually ejaculated twice in the whole time that I've known her. That was one time. And the other time she told me to masturbate.

Right. But it's really like she's controlling the situation. So she's not going to, as a Dom, let you have, quote, unquote, like, the pleasure of that. There's no topic from the bottom with her. Right. Uh-huh. You know, she doesn't ask if this is okay. She doesn't ask her.

I mean, she's just able to tell that, okay, I brought him close to the ledge and I can't take him over. And every once in all, she'll say, I've never hit you harder than that, you know, and I'll say, yeah, I know. Because it's almost like, you know, I don't know if you like spicy. but if you like Tabasco sauce. I like spicy. One drop in Tabasco sauce on Monday is fine. On Friday you need four drops of it. Right.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean by that? Uh-huh. And so as we have grown in our relationship, the intensity level has also gone up quite a bit, you know. Yeah. And I don't know where there's, you know, where the end is if there even is an end. And maybe I'll never find out because, like I said, I haven't seen or heard from it. But if it's such a need for you, right?

Like you said it was and a release that you need to have. You know, what have you been doing? Is it that other girl that you met recently that you've had? Let me get. Who has taken her place? Nobody. And there's a real void right now. Yeah.

Yeah, I would think. So if you still have stress in your life and you still are, you know, in that same position of power elsewhere, right? Where do you let go of all of that? And doing it to yourself is not the same. Right. It's like, you know, it just isn't. So it's, yeah, there's a real void right now.

But there's nobody around that I'm aware of right now. And I've lost track with the people that used to have the party. I mean, that group seems to have disbanded. I don't even know if the person still lives in that same place. Right. You know, people move on and go about. and I'm not going out on a, you know, very often

looking for it and I don't do any of the the apps where I might be able to find people. Right. And the girl that you met recently, I mean, she just wanted you to go down on her. I mean, so that was like a sub thing in that you're just pleasing her, right? And she's not doing anything for you. But it's not really the full extent of what you're into. I mean, you need a lot more than that. Correct. Yeah. I don't like if you, you know, if you're in

not getting oral sex in your life and you really want it and there's somebody willing to do it and you don't have to do anything that's a bonus for you know right and i think that's the way she looked at it and i was very happy to do it because it was a lot of fun for me you know and uh you know she looked good smell good tastes is good i mean i couldn't have asked for a better a better uh two two times and then the fact that now she's just gone and i don't know her name that's a real fantasy you know and you met her she actually approached you on on a site right is that what you said that's correct so you're still obviously on that site is it fed life or something like that that you're on that she found you know it's uh i think it's called svc swingers day club but uh i don't have a active

membership right now right maybe that's where you'd have to be the virus thing going on oh yeah i forget yeah that's putting a big kink in everything you know this virus has got to go away I know. That's what me. I know. And I don't and then they're like, oh, no one's going to take the vaccine. I'm like, what the fuck? Like it just, I thought this was going to be like two months of. I was like I could deal with a couple months. What's the big deal? It's just it's so bad. That's why I wanted to talk to Linda Gail. Because I'm like, what are people doing? You know, and like when it comes to like a club like hers, like are people, you know, what is that community doing now that they can't meet up together and, you know? I don't know. I got, I got an email the other day. I think they're doing something on. I'm. I think they're doing something. I'm. I'm line but I haven't uh uh that's not my thing so I just haven't you know I haven't chatted in or anything like that I would feel really strange jacking off in front of a computer I mean it's just it's just not my thing so you know yeah isn't that funny because there's like people that are like the guy who loves jerking off in front of the computer is like he thinks I'm weird that guy likes to be peed on or like you know he's like blindfolded

with a cock ring at someone's house party I mean nothing's weird unless you think it's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was some movie many, many years ago. It was so fucking brilliant. And it was like two sets of people doing regular things and they took pictures of it or just like really fucked up real life things and they took pictures of it. And then they went and picked up the wrong pictures and they were both looking at the other

persons. One of them went fishing and there was like a dead body there and they just like continued to fish. And then another person did something else weird. And they were both looking at it like, what the fuck is wrong with these people? but they were both insane. You know what I mean? And that's like that real life shit, you know, that you may think you were looking at

somebody else like you're so weird. But, you know, what would they think if they're looking at you? You know, I mean, come on. Right. Well, you're the person that interviews all those wackos. So, you know, what the heck? But the funny thing is, I have to say, because I've had some people email me like fans of the show that are just listeners, right?

And they wouldn't call, they don't call in. And they're like, oh, and you know, I just love all the weirdos you talk to. Or like, they say something. and they're just being nice, but I always say, like, but I don't really look at the people who call my show, like, as weirdos. I think what I'm trying to show and what I think is real life, because, like, if I say, I don't know who you really are, right? If I met you in your office, right, or we did business together, you would probably seem like a totally normal person. And not probably like I just know you would just seem like anybody else that I talk to, you know, in business or if I went to the grocery store, you know, and that's what my show is here to say is that these regular people that you're maybe interacting with in your daily life or maybe you're married to somebody or maybe it's your cousin or like it's someone in your office are doing these fucking things. Are they weird? Maybe what they're doing you think it might be weird. But in your regular life, it's not you're just a regular person, you know? And this is just what. Some people do different things.

People are into weird shit. It's funny when my wife and I started playing with a chastity thing and I was wearing a chastity advice. Yeah. We're walking down the street one day. She says, you know, every guy that's walking by him. I'm looking to see if he has one on now. Yeah, right.

We know that there's three million of them sold. So, I mean, it's not like I'm the only one that's ever worn one, you know. Please. I was talking to a guy friend recently. I was like, now that everyone's like quarantined at home, you can't do this, but the next time you're in a room with like 15 guys, make everyone drop their pants. And I bet you one of them is wearing pantyhows. I bet you. I bet you anything, because I know a lot of fucking guys are into pantyhows now because of my show. So how do you know? Do you

what I mean? These are people you fucking know, all you people out there judging or you think that you're listening to quote unquote weirdos. You know, it might be your best friend is into this. Or you probably have some secrets you're not ready to face the fess up to, you know, I don't know. I mean, and it's just the way that it goes. Well, I met a girl one time that knew a judge from the county that I, that I was in a circuit judge. Yeah. That would literally come into court with his robes on and panties on underneath and nothing else, you know. How did she know?

They were married to one another. Oh, okay. So she knew that that was what was going down. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she knew. So, you know. Yeah, there you go.

That's what I mean. Yeah, whenever I hear people like, oh, yeah, we met, I met someone in FetLife and we were going to have like a DP or some crazy. And we were like, we met at Starbucks to have a discussion about it. I'm like, you know, there's no way in how the family is sitting next to you or saw you from across the way would ever think that that's what you're talking about. But now because I do talk to people, I'm like your wife walking down the street. Like I read into everything and in a different way or I just see a different

scenario that might be in a lot of times now that I wouldn't have thought of before because now I know what people are into. Like I said, I mean, this is like my 345th episode if I air with this week, you know, like, and I've done some that I haven't aired. So how many, you know, so, and this is just a small portion. So how many people out there are doing these things? A lot. Come on. Yeah. We're, you know, our generation didn't invent blow. jobs you know they've been around for a long time right and you know it's you know we we we like to think we're the only ones doing this but we're not I mean otherwise we wouldn't you know they's what was that old saying birds of a feather flocked together yeah

we wind up with people that are so much similar to us you know how do we know there's got to be some kind of radar or something out there oh yeah I think that there's lots of unspoken things that go down and like people could smell stuff from a mile away. A lot of times that happens in all different kinds of scenarios, whether you're like sniffing out the person that's unavailable because you're a commitment foam or you're sniffing out the person that's like into like kinky things because you're a kink master. You know what I mean? It's just like that kind of unspoken stuff goes all down and all the time because I think, you know, we're animals and there are there's that stuff. You know, we could smell things

because we're animals just like other animals can. So that's a whole other conversation. But I just can't believe now you're like you are literally like three. people you were j and then you were jim and now we're gonna i'm gonna make you something else with a jay for this one because it turns out to be like a whole new side of you that we didn't really touch on in any of the other episodes and it's a whole other it's a whole new aspect of you right that you talked about you're a collective kind of guy what can i say yeah well people have to go i really recommend both of your other episodes they're both equally as fascinating i think think the the the tease and denial one's very fascinating i've i've done tease and denial by accident you know

with a halfway in game i've talked about that and i found it fascinating and it's something you should fucking try if you never have because you won't believe how it turned on you will even if you don't take it to the extreme that he discusses try it out and you'll see what he's talking about so listen to that episode i'll put the number of it and then the one with his wife if you're into you know the cuckold situation scenario, you'll find that one hot because other people do. And it's interesting. And you'll hear his whole backstory with his wife. And now we got the backstory on your quote unquote girlfriend and your sub side. So thanks so much for calling in again. Well, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah. So, you know, we'll never know who you're going to be next time we talk. And what other fucking thing

you're going to come up with next time? But it's, you know, you haven't heard it all yet. I'm sure I haven't. So, you know, let me know when you're ready to peel back, you want me to peel back another layer. Okay, I'm just like the onion. Exactly. You have a great day. You too, thanks so much. You stay safe up there. Thank you.

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