Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 351 - Mark's Wife is Having Sex with Another Guy and he's Totally Into It

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

Mark's call in to talk all about the affair his wife is having with her best friend's husband and a whole lot more. How did she start hooking up with the other guy? Where do they have sex and what do ...they do together? And, has he ever joined in with them? Tune in to find out plus hear all about the blowjobs he gave/received from both his neighbor and his cousin, the threesome he had when he was younger as well as the threesomes he's had with his wife with both men and women, their cuckold fantasies and how they live them out, the time he cheated on his wife with his fellow bandmate and how she felt when he told her about int, his nudist ways and a whole lot more. Plus, you'll hear more about his wife's affair when she calls in next week! **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
Starting point is 00:00:17 The temptation is just too much. It's real problem. Do your friend know that you're banging her or no? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your freak flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to rehire. your whips and chain. Here is your host, Kathy.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you've been somebody who has been fucked over by what's going on right now and you want to talk on the download in Anonymous way and get your real story out there, come on my show, send me an email strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com or go to my website, strictly not my podcast.com and click on be on the show. What else? Today, I'm just going to get to my, I don't know if anyone's still listening to this intro
Starting point is 00:01:07 it's so long. But I'm going to talk about who I am on my show today. I've had a guy named, I think his name is Dave, right? Dave. And Dave wrote in and he had a lot of like really fucking interesting stories, like right off the bat. He was like he's younger and he fooled around with neighbors and cousins. And when I say neighbors and cousins, I mean males.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And then all the shit that he did. does with his wife, right? Him and his wife have fooled around with other couples. They've had threesome with women. They've had a threesome with men. And then he had this whole other side story about his wife as starting an affair. With his, except, like his permission, she started to bang her, like, best friends guy, husband. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And they would have all these vacations and she would always sneak off and go, fuck this guy. and she was like best friends with the girl and that's like an ongoing thing and we talk all about that and I have to tell you this is going to be a two-parter and it's really interesting this guy called in first and I was like a little bit like I think you're fucking lying and I took one part of me accusing him of lying out because it was just like a little long-winded but I left the one at the end and you know I have to say when I went back and edited it I was like why did I think this guy was lying I did not feel that way all when I was listening to it back and I felt really bad because I'm going to tell you the part two is his wife calls in after we hung up and he knew that I kind of didn't believe him he was really insulted and we had it back and forth and he's like oh my wife's going to come on and she'll like fucking prove it and she did and she was amazing and then I accused her of like you have to hear it it's a whole story which was very humbling to me you'll hear when you hear her part you'll hear me talk about why like how I
Starting point is 00:02:58 I feel about accusing them. It's a whole thing. But, you know, I taped them a while ago, so I'm sure they'll be happy that I'm finally fucking airing this. And, you know, I apologized before to him via email about accusing him, I'm not lying. I really have to apologize to him now on this intro because when I went back and edited, I was like, none of this sounds like a lie. I don't know why I did think that.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I think it's because recently I had like an influx of a lot of people that were lying and I was like really on the lookout for it, right? And I think in this situation, I was seeing something that wasn't there. And I feel really bad. And you're going to hear, like I said, I took out one of the times where I accused him of lying, but you'll hear the one at the end and just disregard it because I think I'm totally wrong. And I was just being paranoid. And this guy is like a listener of the show.
Starting point is 00:03:45 And he was really nice and totally cool and came on with these really interesting stories. And it's a great episode. And it was really fucking rude of me. It's accus him of lying. So I'm apologizing again to him. You're not going to hear. any of that kind of stuff in the episode, you're going to hear all his good stories and his whole life story, which is fucking fascinating at the end. You'll hear me accuse him, but disregard it.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And then next week, I'm going to air his wife's, and she gets into her affair a lot more, with a lot more details. So it's fascinating, but I'm going to be right back on right now with Dave. Hey, Kathy. I'm great. I'm great. You're great. Good. I'm glad you're great. Now, you had emailed me with a lot of really interesting stories. Some were yours, some were your wives. I mean, but the stories about your wife are stories that include you too, right? Hopefully we're going to get her to come on at some point.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, yeah, it's the plan. Yeah. But you have a lot of stories too starting out. Like there's a lot of, I wouldn't say funny. Maybe they're funny when you tell them. They're funny to me because, you know, they're from a long time ago. Like stories about when you were younger
Starting point is 00:04:50 and all the stuff that was going on between you and your guy friends, which I think is maybe more common than people think? I don't know. I think so, yeah. Right? Like, what was going down in your town with your guy friend? Let's start there.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You know, I guess the thing started out as truth or dare, right? True or Dare? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then it became, we cited that, you know, the dares were more fun than the truth. So then it became dirty dare. So it was just you dared someone to do it. something, you know, and
Starting point is 00:05:26 pretty soon, you know, you dare someone to touch someone and it kind of escalates from there. You know, I had a couple, I had actually a cousin of mine and then a neighbor
Starting point is 00:05:44 of mine who we just ended up, you know, just basically became getting each other off. Guys or girls? Guys. Right. Okay, so a cousin, you and your cousin are fooling around kind of? Like what was going to? You, and your cousin, are fooling around, kind of. Like, what was going down with the cousin? Oral sex. Oral sex? Yes. So it wasn't just fondling. I mean, his dick was in your
Starting point is 00:06:04 mouth, your dick was in his mouth, or one or the other, both? Yeah, yeah, one of the other, you know, at different times, both, yeah. How did that happen with your cousin and how old were you guys? Do you remember? This would be, like, great school, middle school, all through that time. Okay, so middle school is kind of older. I mean, we're. I mean, I get grade school, you're, you kind of have a fuzzy memory sometimes maybe because you're super young. But then grade school, you're older, right? So where is that going down? Middle school, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Oh, that's middle school. You're saying, what school did you say this was happening? Well, it started in grade school. I guess probably like the oral sex starts, didn't really start to happen until, you know, puberty. But you had oral sex with your cousin, your male cousin. Yeah, yeah. How many times? Oh, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Many. Like many times. Now, do you still see this cousin to this day? Yeah, once in a while. When did it start? And how did it stop, though? And we're going to get to more details. But at what age did you guys stop or did it not stop until you were adults?
Starting point is 00:07:14 I don't know. I think it just kind of faded off once we were able to find girls. Right. So it was strictly about you guys are just really horny. You're willing to get each other off. That's better than nothing because at that point you're too young to get girls to do that kind of stuff. Yeah. It just didn't, yeah, it didn't have any clue, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Mm-hmm. Didn't have the game. Now, did it happen at a sleepover? Like, do you remember how it happened? I mean, did it, I guess I'm assuming it, like, it happened over time. Like, maybe it started off with touching and eventually went to blow jobs. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, exactly. It was a slow progression. And, you know, it started, we did a lot of, a lot of camping. Just the boys going camping. A lot of times just running around the woods. We have a lot of free time to ourselves. Mm-hmm. And we're a horny little boys.
Starting point is 00:08:08 No, but I know. But how did it happen that? Who says, like, hey, like, let me touch your penis. Like, how does it actually happen? Like, the details. That's what I want. Okay. One of the experiences, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So it starts from what we're playing this game, right? We're playing Dirty Dare. Yeah. And so, you know, I dare you to, you know, dare you jack me off. And then they do it. Okay. So that's that, that barrier's been broken, you know. No, but you're talking as like in a general term.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Tell me like the specifics of like one time. Like he said to me, you know what I mean? That's the wording you should be using. Okay. Well, I mean, it was a long time ago. I'm 40 years now. Yeah. But a general, I mean, a.
Starting point is 00:08:53 From my memory, it would be, let's say, I ask, Joe will call him, you know, I dare you to touch my cock. And then so he does. And then now it's his turn. So he dares me to touch his, right? And then now it's my turn. Okay, I dare you to put my cock in your mouth. But that all happened. And one time it went from like a touch my penis to put your cock in my mouth.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, but there's a lot of times before that of just, you know, I'd already get naked and run over, you know, out in the yard and touch the flagpole and run back, you know, that kind of stuff. Now, did this just happen with your cousin or did it happen with other friends too? I had a neighbor that it happened with as well. I would kind of, you know, it's not like I was just looking for guys to do this with, but there was a couple guys that it just worked out from, So a couple guys, not just one neighbor, more than one? Well, my one neighbor and my cousin.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Oh, okay. I think people might are, I know, listen, I get emails. People are listening like fucking Judge Judy like I am, you know, and people are going to be like, I call bullshit to this guy's beginning stories. I don't know the rest of them, but it's, and I don't know if it's just that it's the memory is so long ago, but I would think that those memories stand out. I mean, you know, you're not that young to not remember it so much, and especially because these were like the first time you're getting a blow job right i mean the first time your dick is in
Starting point is 00:10:27 someone's mouth yeah i guess it didn't it doesn't stick out to me as a big deal it was something we did as kids and i was i was just i was horning for girls and so once once i had a girl i mean no but wasn't it it didn't it didn't freak you out though about being with a guy was it confusing i mean you were with your cousin i mean that's kind of hard to do you're not you're court. Okay, so let me go back to talk about my mom for a minute then. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember this. My mom, she's just been a great influence in my life. She's been so sex positive ever since I was a little boy. You know, she would tell me, you know, it's little boys, you know, you touch themselves. You should touch yourself. It's healthy. You know, it's little boys might play games
Starting point is 00:11:15 together and I feel like maybe she knew you know something was going on because she was like you know something might happen and then it might be a few days later she would say you know it's okay you know little boys experiment and that's fine and um she had I think I mentioned the email she had all the Nancy
Starting point is 00:11:34 Friday books what are Nancy Friday books I don't know what that even means um you ever heard of my secret garden no oh well it's a great book you probably you probably love them um she's got three books on sexual fantasies. Right. And kind of like you, she put an ad out there and said, send me your sexual fantasies.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Um, and people would write in and then so she grouped them together in different categories and then she, you know, talks about she's very into Freud. So it's a little dated as far as that goes in my opinion. Uh huh. But, you know, um, I had access to all that. And so, you know, I didn't feel. strange at all. She, like I said, she made me feel very comfortable, comfortable about what I was doing. Right. And, and I, and I just hear all these crazy fantasies, you know, about all these different things that people want to do.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Mm-hmm. So there's two books on about women's fantasies and one about men's fantasies that I'm aware of that she wrote. Right. So you're saying, like, the fact that your cousin and you were hooking up and sucking each other off wasn't, didn't seem that odd or taboo because your mom always, kind of made it seem like whatever you were experimenting with was okay and normal? Absolutely. And now did you, so you never worried like, or not worried, but at that age maybe you will. Like, do I like girls? Do I like guys? I mean, because here you are getting blow jobs from guys and you're coming because you say you guys would like come in each other's mouths. Right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, and that was kind of like an agreement, you know, because we both kind of wanted to come in the other person's mouth, but the other person didn't really maybe want to accept it. But we're like, hey, I'll swallow yours if you swallow money. Mm-hmm. And now, did you ever hook up with your neighbor and your cousin at the same time? I mean, did you ever bring, you know, the two guys you were fooling around with together, or were they separate? Not separate. Right. They were separate.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And now that neighbor that you were kind of hucking up with, did you ever go farther than oral sex with any of these guys? Because I know that you did say in your email that you had anal with guys at a young age. You weren't really that into it. I mean, who were you doing that with? That was the neighbor. Mm-hmm. And he wanted me to do it to him. And I did.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And I kind of lost my erection. And then he tried to me, and he was big. Anyway, and I was a little boy. Yeah. So that didn't work out. I just wasn't into it. You weren't into it. He wasn't into it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 He was into it. Right. Because he told me about another kid that we, I, he was a friend of his, I didn't know, they were doing different great than me. And he said, well, me and so-and-so do it all the time. You know, he likes it. No, I don't like it, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Mm-hmm. But you never, did you ever come clean to your mom about anything considering she was really super open, or did you not talk about these things with her? I don't think I ever did talk to her about it. You know, specifically saying, you know, I did this with this person or anything like that, no. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And then did you, when you say you lost your virginity, I know you said you lost your virginity, specific age I think it was 15 or 16 did you um lose it like was that I'm assuming that's with a girl right but maybe you lost your virginity to guys before that yeah so I guess technically I was not a virgin when I thought I lost my virgin yeah I was 16 yeah it was my birthday actually yeah and uh long long term relationship you know at that point it's 11 months it always kind of a relationship yeah and that was just really nice. It wasn't her first time.
Starting point is 00:15:18 She had a group of his boyfriend long term. And she was the new girl in school. And I met up with her. And after, I don't even know how many months. But, yeah, we
Starting point is 00:15:30 arranged it. My buddy could drive at the time. So he picked us up and brought us over to his house actually. And let us use his bed. But didn't you have a threesome with this girl?
Starting point is 00:15:44 right and you lost virginity to her but didn't you have it was this the girl that you had a threesome with when you were in your younger days or was it another girl that was someone else that was after her it was actually a good friend and his girlfriend it was supposed to be a foursome uh-huh and that was just it was just fell into my lap my friend said hey do you want to have sex with me and my girlfriend and her friend who's another girl and I said said, yeah, that sounds awesome. And the one girl backed out who was not the girlfriend. So it's my friend and his girlfriend. Oh, okay. So you're a girl backed out. Yeah. Uh-huh. And I thought it was fun. Basically, she, you know, we got her naked and me and my buddy were just all over her, touching
Starting point is 00:16:38 her, kissing her, going down on her. She was sucking us off. And then, she eventually got on top of him and they went at it and he came and after he came he just kind of laid there and she wasn't moving and i just got up behind her and he went at it and then i came and i feel like i kind of left a bad taste in his mouth how come like maybe after he came he didn't want to have a threesome anymore he didn't want to see his friend doing a girl. Yeah. And but I was, you know, horny 17 year old the time. And so I was like, I'm getting mine, you know. Yeah. I'm sure I would have done it much of the only today. I certainly hope so. And then, and we never, but we never discussed it.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Right. So that just happened. Did they, did they wind up continuing to date or did that maybe ruin their relationship? Yeah. They did. No, actually they did. They did continue to date for most of high school, I believe. Right. So now you start dating your wife, like when you were really super young, right? I mean, you've been with her since high school, right? Yeah, my senior prom was our first physical team. Right. And now you start off, like, I think you said you started off like very vanilla,
Starting point is 00:17:57 the sex between you guys. But up until now, you do, you guys have gotten into some pretty hardcore things, right? I mean, you started. Was the first time that you opened your relationship up, is when you had sex with a couple that you knew really well? Is that how it started that you got into, you know, kinkier things? Yes. I mean, we had done some, and we always had great sex. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Not much, you know, as far as kinks or really much role playing, anything like that. But, you know, we started, you know, like I said, we started dating in high school, and we dated like three years before we had sex, which is hard to believe. We did everything else. We had tons of oral. And why were you waiting? Was she, was it like a marriage thing? for her and she was conservative or religious. Why did you wait? She grew up religious, but kind of, I wouldn't say a real conservative family either. Pretty liberal-minded.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But I was her first, and I just really felt like she was the one, and I was willing to take as much time as she wanted. Right, and so she wanted to. So you didn't wait until you were married, but it just took three years? Yeah, and part of it was the president. pregnancy thing too that was a fear you know right it was back in the day people were very different so how did you wind up having like how did it wind up that you guys had sex with a couple because it was a couple that you knew for a while right like friends of yours yeah yeah good friends that I had known for boy at least eight years or so I knew I knew them before I knew before my wife and I were
Starting point is 00:19:40 married. So basically we were at their house hanging out having some drinks then we end up playing carts and then it becomes
Starting point is 00:19:58 strip poker and then it became you could start to make your own rules if you won the hand right so you know we would make things oh if this happens oh you have to like i'm our one the one thing i just said arbitrarily and i end up really liking it was i made the girls pick up
Starting point is 00:20:27 their card like they lost so they'd throw their cards on their ground and pick them up with their and it was really hot and i think they end up maybe kissing or something while they were down there Right. And I'm sorry, I forgot an important detail of this story. Yeah. Before the cards. We know we're going to spend the night at their house. And my wife and my buddy, the other husband, they're getting some blankets out and stuff for us.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And I can hear them in the other room talking. I'm out in the kitchen. I can just hear them. And I hear my wife's soon. Well, you know, I remember that sometimes it can be fun just. to have sex in the same room as another couple. Right. And I heard her stay that and like my,
Starting point is 00:21:13 my, my blood went cold, but not in a bad way. Like I was just, you know, I was just tingling. I was like, oh my God. You got turned on. Oh, great time. Yeah. And so then we went and we, we had fun with the cards. And we didn't do anything with them. But, you know, at one point, the other girls,
Starting point is 00:21:37 told my wife to suck my cock and she did and so we're just doing it's just fun hot things with our own people watching getting turned on and then we ended up we did end up all going back to the bedroom having sex it was kind of weird because they had the radio on you know just like a radio station and there's commercials playing and we're and we're always like really um have been more gourmet about things you know we like the candles making nice fires you know, whatever. So it was kind of different, but it was still hot. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:22:11 But you're just having sex with your own partners in front of each other, right? At this point, yes. Mm-hmm. And so next time we got together, and I think that was my wife's birthday, perhaps, that time. So it was one of the people's birthday. And then, yeah, it was someone else's birthday, one of the four of us, and then we said something like, well, we had to do this again. and I think my wife mentioned that her birthday was coming up in a couple months. So we got together, and that time we did all kinds of stuff with each other,
Starting point is 00:22:46 and I ended up drinking far too much, and remember very little of that occasion, unfortunately, but it was my wife's birthday, and she really wanted to have anal sex, and so she told my buddy that, and he was all about it. and he's a little smaller, hung, too, so it worked out really good. But had you guys discussed the fact that she was going to be with other people? Did you have any rules and regulations going on? You know, was she totally down with seeing you with the woman? Were you already discussed like, oh, I'd love to see you with another guy?
Starting point is 00:23:25 I mean, or did you not have those conversations? Well, I had always fantasized. you know, about a threesome, a four-sum, whatever, any kind of, you know, different sex thing that you can probably do I'd wanted to do. But my wife was pretty conservative in that area. And so I kind of just, I didn't think of it as a possibility. You know, I thought that was just, that was fantasy. And that was okay with that.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And then this happened. And afterwards, so beforehand there was no, no limit, et cetera, or anything like that. Afterwards, we discussed basically that if this is going to keep happening, that we should both be there. Uh-huh. That was about, although that rule kind of got broken. What happened? Yeah. Well, there was a time.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So these two friends, they have a, they have like a camp. And we were, and we have kids. We have two boys. and our boys were pretty young at this time. So our friends didn't have kids yet, and they would have their camp, and we'd all go up there and hang out. Well, then, you know, we have little kids,
Starting point is 00:24:42 so someone's got to stay home with the kids. So it was her turn to go out, and they end up, I don't really know how it all played out, but my buddy, he's pretty persuasive. He ended up getting both of the girls, his wife and my wife, naked and and then they were talking about anal sex lot because my wife's always been curious about it
Starting point is 00:25:11 and you just said that last time that they had anal she asked for it a while ago you told me the other story yeah okay well i mean we've never done anal but you said when you were the second time you were with those people was her birthday and she said i want to have anal and that guy fucked her in the ass that's what you said yes he did all right but now when is is this story that you're saying, oh, she never had anal, but she was curious about it. And where's that timeline? It doesn't make sense. Okay. I'm not sure which happened first of the campsite incident, but I believe that we are all together. I know that we all had sex together. And then there's a time where it was the three
Starting point is 00:25:50 of them at this camp. I'm not the camp. And they get together? They all get together. The three of them are, the three of them are at the camp. I'm with the kids. Oh, right, right, okay. I'm being the good dad. Yeah. And so they end up talking about anal sex quite a lot. And she's just asking for more tips because, you know, how do you do it? You know, how does it work? Whatever. And so he ended up, he ends up fingering her.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And he's trying, he has a finger in my wife in the ass. And he's telling his wife to go get a condom, but she doesn't want to get a condom. I don't know. Just it was so so that that rule got broken anyway and and I I was honestly the only part that bothered me about it was just that I was I couldn't be there. So you did have a rule about condoms that you had discussed that? No no not condoms the rule about we we both have to be together. Oh okay right okay so she comes back and tells you how did you find out that that went down? Oh she came back and told me right away she woke me up and I called her dirty names and so
Starting point is 00:26:59 screwed the crap out of her. Okay. And you liked it. So that was, okay. I loved it, yes. I loved it. So I've never been bothered about her being with someone. I was more bothered about that I just missed the fun.
Starting point is 00:27:11 You know what I mean? Yeah. Uh-huh. So then at this point, so there's a lot of different nights up at this campsite, okay? And different people hang out and, you know, a lot of, you wait until everyone else leads, you know. mean. So just now it's those freaky people left again. Well, there's, okay, so now this is where another guy comes into the story. My wife's best friend's husband. And he ends up finding, she ends up spilling the beans to him about the fun we've been having. Wait a second, but what
Starting point is 00:27:57 it winds up happening with that couple? Does that couple, do you wind up hanging out with them for a long time, you know, that other couple that you're pulling around with? There were three times that all four of us were together. And, you know, the first time with the cards. Yeah. The second time where we did everything that I missed most of it because I got too drunk. And then the third time where I was going to make sure I wasn't going to drink too much and, you know, remember all the fun. But you did drink too much, right?
Starting point is 00:28:30 There was a story where you drank. too much. Yes, the second time, but the third time, I made sure that was not going to happen again. Okay. You know what I mean? If I'm going to have this great day, I've been dying for, I want to be there for it. I want to remember it. Uh-huh. And that was awesome. And I, you know, I was loving it. My wife, she was getting, she gets really involved in meshed, you know, she wants, you know, if they, if that couple is having any kind of relationship issue she wants to be involved in it you know we got to where it was taking up so much of her energy outside of being with them does that make sense i guess i don't know i don't really know you're saying that she becomes closer with them because she's fooling around with them and then
Starting point is 00:29:19 now she's talking to the both of them about their relationship and she try it kind of becomes like their therapist kind of yeah yeah she reminds me a lot of you i don't know if that's a really description you, but just very serious about really getting, she really gets to the heart of the matter really well with people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now they feel comfortable telling her stuff and now she's in it, right? Okay. And so then, and also this couple, they would, they were recently married
Starting point is 00:29:44 during all this. They weren't married when we started, then they got married, and then we did it again. And they kind of, I feel like the wife got jealous of my wife. Right. And it was kind of, a little strain in our friendship and then they moved a little farther away we didn't seem as much and we've kind of reconnected more lately and we so we still have a good friendship but the sex thing it was not a good it was a terrible time for them you know like i said they were they were new
Starting point is 00:30:16 new couple and then recently married and we had been married for oh geez probably over 10 years at this point right so you guys were solid and yeah right Yeah. So now get back to the, because I know that you told me about it in the email about her fucking her best friend's husband. And so that starts at the camp. She starts talking to the couple or just the guy about it? Just the guy. So there was a wedding we were all at.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And this guy, he's an awesome dude. He's a real man's man. He's fun to be around. He's single at the time. And they end up dancing. Oh, so he's not with her best friend yet. Not yet. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:00 He's single still. And they end up dancing together for quite a while, having a great time. And, you know, then they end up talking, and she ends up telling him all about our fun escapades with our friends. And then that same summer, they end up. walking off together and they have sex on the hood of a truck in someone's dark yard dark yard where thank god no one ended up seeing them because it's a small town um and so they start the and which which i was all four i was like that's great go for it you know i was her i was her first um so at this point now she's had sex with me and she's had sex with me and she's had sex
Starting point is 00:32:00 of my buddy and his wife. And so I, I mean, way before this had happened, I had always told her, I said, if you really think you need to, you know, to have other experiences with other people,
Starting point is 00:32:13 I'm okay with it. Right. And so this happened, and this, again, this is the night I'm home with the kids. And she comes back and tells me, and same thing,
Starting point is 00:32:25 I get turned on like crazy. We have awesome sex. And, then eventually he gets married and my wife becomes friends with her after they become married. Partially kind of she set out of guilt because she's she feels bad that she's having sex with her guy. But also then so that she ends up really liking her and like I said, they become best friends. Right. And we, and so now it's something, it's, it's rare.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Like, they might do it one summer, one time, and then a couple years go by. And she thinks, okay, I'm good. That's not going to happen. Maybe there's a couple times where he tries and she talks about it. And, you know, and then one time, you know, they're alone. And he gives her the look or something and, you know, it's on. She's like, I don't know. She's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:30 She's like, I'm just, I'm instantly like a switch, you know, and I don't care about anything else. So, and this is confusing because I don't want her to be doing something behind her friend's back that could hurt her friend, right? Right. But at the same time, it turns me on like crazy. Listen, I mean, it's weird that you care more about the friend than she does. Well, I don't know if that's the case. Yeah. I don't know if I do care more about it than she does.
Starting point is 00:33:59 but, you know, I'm not the one that's getting turned on. You know what I mean? It's a lot easier for me to have a rational look at it where, you know, she's in this other state all of a sudden, right? But when she brings this story back to you, you supposedly are very turned on by it, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, in fact, at one point, there was another, there was a lot of campfires in our community.
Starting point is 00:34:26 In one point, lunche was sitting around a campfire, and this was surely. after my wife had started squirting. And we were telling some people about it. And quite a few people were really interested. And we end up leaving. And we're walking out of this road. And you can look across a yard and there's a parallel road. And then my friend, the guy that she's cheating with, is walking on this other road.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And she says to me, boy. he'd be really fun to bring him back and show him how I squirt. And I say, okay. And the second I say, okay, she, like, is off like a shot. She goes, she runs after him.
Starting point is 00:35:17 She grabs him by the arm. I can see him in the darkness. You know, they're standing there for a minute. And then they come down, and she is like a giddy schoolgirl. So we bring them in the house. she gets naked and I'm I'm licking her pussy and I'm telling them you know you know what I'm doing I'm getting her getting her warmed up getting her turned on I start putting my finger in her telling them how I'm you know I'm rubbing the G spot lightly and and eventually when she's ready
Starting point is 00:35:52 which was way sooner than normal because she's so turned on I go start I start really hitting it And she starts squirting and he's just flopping all over the bed, having a great time. Right. Now, this is the guy that has the, this is the guy that she's friends with the wife or is this the other guy that the couple? This is the, we'll call it the affair with the best friend's husband. Right. Okay. And then she ends up pulling it my pants and she gets my pants down.
Starting point is 00:36:26 She starts sucking my cock while I'm doing this. and I ask him if he wants to try it. He says no. Suck your car? No, no. Make her squirt. Oh, okay. And so then after a while she ends up getting up and she starts kind of kissing his neck and whisper in his ear.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And apparently I can't hear her, but she's begging him, she's just let me suck your cock, let me suck your cock. let me suck your cock. So she starts sucking his cock, and then I start screwing her from behind, and he ends up coming in her mouth, and says, I got to go. And then he leaves, and then me and her continue to have a great night of sex.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And part of me would like to reproduce, recreate that event, but I don't want to go there, because, like I said, there's a relation, another relationship involved. And also he doesn't want to, he's told her flat out, you know, he does not want to have sex with the two of us.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Oh, he prefers it when a solo? He doesn't, he doesn't even, he won't even, he feels bad just that he does it with her. He feels bad around me, he says sometimes. But even though it's, I'm totally fine with it. Mm-hmm. He just can't make sense of it in his brain. He doesn't, I just can't understand how that's okay. you know right but he was there because that's my ultimate yeah but you like the cuckolding kind of thing right
Starting point is 00:38:04 I mean I do I do I don't want to be like humiliated or anything like that but we do some fun role play stuff like she's tied me up in a chair before and then you know get to dillow out and pretend she's getting fucked and and you have to watch now do you think that you're still are you into guys at all as an adult I mean you did fool around occasionally when you were younger but said it was mostly because there was no girls around. Have you ever been with guys in your adult years? I have. Yes. And I don't know if I put that in the email, but I have a friend who is a friend from high school, but, you know, this is years later after I'm married. My wife is taking classes. She goes back to school and she's staying out of town three nights a week to big classes. So, and I have this band and it's the one of the guys in my kids.
Starting point is 00:38:54 band and we've always been freaks and he has some funny stories he'd be a good one to talk to right he has stories about fucking the muddy ground and laying in the snow and jacking off and he's always been freaky and anyway one night we were together there's the two of us and he's something to the effect of like hey do you want to see what it's like to be gay for a night or something like that you want to try it out out and I said sure right and so we start kissing which is weird because I'd never kissed a guy before like made out with him you know yeah and we did all the things you know we sucked and played with each other and sucked each other all I found out that he likes very different oral than I do he likes he likes teeth and like fingernails on the balls and stuff right and so we we had a sex and same as before I put it in him
Starting point is 00:39:58 and I end up losing my heart on he tried it with me I didn't really like it I wasn't I wasn't ready to receive you know what I mean because I do like my butt plate but more so now
Starting point is 00:40:14 so we did that twice and in fact the one time just a weird little note of the story he was on like some anti depressants it was hard for him to orgasm. So he ends up going to the shower and he says, hey, come in here. He's jacking off in the shower and he says, we pee on me.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I say, okay, sure. And I pee on him and he comes. And so that happened twice and it didn't happen again. It wasn't like a super turn on for me. It wasn't like, oh, this is what I've always been missing. That being said to answer your initial question, I think it would be fun to give a guy head. Well, did you give him hat or no?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Anyway, I did, yeah. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I sure did. So what do you mean to be fun to give a guy head? You've done it a million times. Lots of times. Well, lots of times as a kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 As an adult, like, you know, you asked me if I ever, I think if I ever wanted to be with guys now or whatever. Yeah. And I really don't, but if there was a guy there and we have, you know, a threesome or something, and he wanted me to suck his cock, I probably would. But I wouldn't really seek it out. And also, I don't know how that would work with my wife if that would put a bad picture in her mouth. Did she know about this guy from your, or is that something you did on the down low behind her back? Because you've been with her since high school.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So if you did that, you must have done it while you're with her, right? Oh, yeah, we're married at this point. She knows about him, but really the impetus was that I, I knew I was going to call you and I was going to tell this story. And I thought, oh, I got to tell her this. I mean, it's something, honestly, it has not been in my mind for many, many years. And she's like, well, you cheated on me. I'm like, well, I was with my, it's my buddy.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Like, is it. She's like, it's still cheating. I was like, well, I guess it is, you know? She's like, why didn't you tell me? And I said, I didn't think you could have handled it at the time. and she says you're probably you're probably right i probably couldn't have handled it and then just the other day i said to her i said hey you want to hear something crazy and i told her that you know and she's like wow freaked you out for a couple days kind of
Starting point is 00:42:36 because she's mostly not because i did it but just that i didn't tell her and she's always thinking what else are you going to bring up what else did she know about the guys when you were younger and all this guy stuff did she ever question whether you were into guys she no she never thought i was gay or anything or even bisexual or bisexual no no and i never really did she know about the guy stuff when you were younger the cousin the friend
Starting point is 00:43:02 all that you know hooking up with guys when you were little before you met her did you ever tell her about that yeah in in a much more abbreviated way you know just that i had sucked off my cousin he sucked me off you know but did that didn't lead to questions of whether you were into guys now No. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:43:22 No. We're very, very chilled out, laid back people. No, but you just said that she's, but no, but you said she's very similar to me in that she asked a lot of questions and she gets really into that. So I would think, because if it was me and she's like me, if my guy that I was with said, oh, when I was younger, I stucked off my, I mean, there'd be, A, there'd be a million questions. And B, one of the questions, 100% would be. do you have those fantasies now? Do you think that you're into guys because you were into them
Starting point is 00:43:53 when you were younger? You know, that would definitely be something I would ask. I'm surprised she didn't if she is that type of person that you said she is. Yeah, I don't think she ever did. When I told you recently, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:06 about the adult scenario with my buddy, you know, she asked me, is that something that you want to do? And I said, you know, it was just real hurry and it was something to try. you know, I'd done that as a kid. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I'd try to get it. Yeah, I can take it or leave it, I guess. What about jelking? You mentioned something about jolking and Kegel stuff. What the fuck is jolking? Why don't I know what that is? I feel like maybe I do. Do you have to remind me?
Starting point is 00:44:33 You do. You do. I have a guest on. It was about how he made his dick bigger. Oh, that's what, right. I knew I heard it. You got into that, or you know how you did that? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I mean, I still do it like, it's just like a kind of a health practice. Mm-hmm. But, and when I did it, when I got into it, you know, I wanted to make my digger. I found this great website. Should I say the website? Yeah, for sure, yeah. It's called Thunder's Place. Funders, F-U-N-D?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Thunder. Thunder? Thunder? Thunder? Like Thunder and Lightning? Yeah, Thunder's Place? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And it's basically all forms. Uh-huh. It's just guys that do this and they share all the information. Right. A ton of great, great source of information. and just men's health type stuff too. Yeah. So should I describe joking?
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah, sure. I mean, why did you start doing it? Was your dick not as big or you wanted it to be bigger? Well, apparently I guess my dick was kind of big when I never knew it. Right? And you wanted to be bigger, right? Yeah, I mean, if you have big dick, you want a bigger dick, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So, yeah, that was the initial I wanted to make my dick bigger. and plus is just another thing to do with my dick. Yeah. So basically you get yourself like semi-erect, not, you know, not to the point where it's rigid, but it's engorged, you know, but it's still squishy. Yeah. And you grab yourself at the base with like an okay symbol, so like your thumb and pointer finger or making a circle.
Starting point is 00:46:14 and you lightly squeeze and then you slowly move your hand towards the head of your cock, you know, forcing blood into the end of your cock. And you can also just hold it there at the base and you can squeeze. There's all kinds of different techniques. Right. But the idea is you're stretching the tissues and also, but it's also just good for, you know, blood flow or penis health. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do you do that all the time? Do you have to do it?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Is it something that you have to do on the regular? Yeah. Yeah, you do. I do it pretty much every morning as I'm laying in bed. I do my kegill exercises and then I do some jelking and I go in the shower. And at this point, I'm not looking to see if my dick's any bigger or anything. I just do it. It just kind of feels nice and I feel like it keeps me healthy.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It keeps everything going. Now, you know, I totally forgot this, but you, and because this was like one of the last things you mentioned in your email, but maybe this is why you jellk. Because you happen to be a nudist. I mean, that's a whole other fucking story. But you consider yourself a nudist and is that why maybe, you know, you're jelking because you want to look good when you're naked out and about or I don't know. No, no correlation there. Right. But let's get into the nudist thing because we have like 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It's like what the, what's that whole thing all about? It basically, for me, I'm very essential. I really like how, you know, something feels nice on the hand. I like it, you know, whatever it is. Like I mentioned, you know, me and my wife liked candles and a nice atmosphere. I just, if I feel better without clothes on, I just like it. And I've never been inhibited, you know, I don't shy to have someone see me naked. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And, you know, my dad always encouraged us that we go swimming, hey, you know, taking my suit off, tried it out, it feels good, you know. So it's always skinny dipping and stuff as a kid, and I just continued it. And I actually recently found out a place in our area that is a public state, you know, state lands where there's a great, this awesome stream, all these swimming homes. and it's been designated unofficially as a nudist area for over 100 years, I just found out. I just found out it was there. So I've been going there. I actually just found out this summer about that place, which is great, because most of my nudity has been just me and my wife or just me walking around in the woods.
Starting point is 00:48:57 You know, I don't want to freak people out. That's always my concern with my nudity and my sexuality is, you know, I don't want to force it on anyone. Yeah. I want to creep people out. Mm-hmm. Because, but yeah, it's just it. Now, is your wife cool with that? Does she go with you?
Starting point is 00:49:19 She does, yeah. And so she's into being naked, too, as well. She's cool with it. Yep, yep. Mm-hmm. Which is nice. It's nice to go somewhere like this place I found out about, you know, there's always the single guy that's walking by naked, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:37 It's like, how many of these dudes are. down here. Yeah. So I used to be there with a lady. Are there a lot of other women couples there, or is it secluded where there's not many people? There's other couples. I've never seen a single woman. A woman by herself, it's kind of secluded. You know, you have to walk like a mile down this kind of sketchy trail, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:58 and then you get out to this beautiful natural area, like I said, with this stream. Nice, just to clear water. right but she how did you get her I mean did she know that you're are you just always naked in the house so she kind of got the idea that you were really into being nude and you're like one day let's go be naked outside and she was like okay I'll do it with you yeah I guess yeah like it you know it's progressed over the years um you know first it would be you know I'd get her to go swim and naked and then you know um We'd be outside and we'd go camping. We'd be naked while we're camping, you know, different things like that. And it's just progressed. Mm-hmm. But she was down, I mean, she had no hesitation to go be naked in front of other people as well.
Starting point is 00:50:54 No, no hesitation at all. Mm-hmm. She was into it. Yeah. And did you get horny, like, you know, when you were with your partner, naked in front of other people in the broad daylight? A little bit Depending on what we're talking about
Starting point is 00:51:11 What do you mean? No, I mean like was it a turn on at all Being a little bit of an exhibitionist? Yeah, a little bit But most of that's the It's funny because it'd be more of a turn on I think if it wasn't at a new displace Because at a new displace
Starting point is 00:51:27 It's like you don't even after a while You don't really see You know, you kind of forget you're naked Yeah, after a while But I have to say I went And the reason I ask us when I was super young. I was maybe like, I forget.
Starting point is 00:51:39 He was one of my first boyfriends, and I was in my early 20s, and he was one of the most jealous boyfriends I ever had, or the most jealous boyfriend I ever had. But for some reason, he was really into going to the New Beach, and he brought me along with him, and I went a bunch of times with him, and I found it, you know, the first couple times
Starting point is 00:51:55 to be a major turn-on because you are, but maybe I'm a little bit more of an exhibitionist, but I think everyone has a little bit of that in them, and there is something about being totally naked in front of strangers, that at first it was a turn on. Yeah, after a while it becomes like, you don't even notice people like you said.
Starting point is 00:52:12 That's very true. It's like no big deal. It's like little baby. You know, it's like people just running around. But, you know, there was that aspect for me and my guy, at least very early on, for it to be a turn on in the beginning, just because it's something new. It's something that you're not normally doing.
Starting point is 00:52:31 And I guess, like I said, I have a little bit of an exhibitionist of me. But I think maybe a lot of people have that. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe just me. When I was younger when I first go out in the woods by myself naked and things like that, I would have a raging heart on for sure.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And it would be more, it would be more sexual for, you know. And now it's, I just I don't, you know. What about your wife? No. No, not really. Not really. It's really, that's kind of a
Starting point is 00:53:02 misconception. I don't understand your experience, you know, but people that do a lot and just I think it's No but I mean didn't you guys just start it Or when did you maybe I'm like okay Well no we've always we've always been naked A lot just not around other people And like I said now when did that start with other
Starting point is 00:53:19 Going to this place that you found How long ago was it? I just found this place this summer Right so this is the first time you guys are going out in public So right Yeah but there would be times where we'd be with friends We'd be camping you get up in the morning You take off your clothes you go swimming
Starting point is 00:53:34 I don't see you naked. It's not that big of deal. It's kind of a turn-on because it's kind of naughty, you know. That's what I mean. But at the same time, all my friends are like, oh, that's Matt. He's naked again. Mm-hmm. You know, it was expected.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I was the guy that got naked. Uh-huh. But your wife, was she getting naked at the campground too in front of all those other people? Maybe as, like, if there's a reason, like, she wouldn't just hang out naked. But if, like I said, if she got up in the morning and was going to go swimming, yeah, she'd go naked. But did she? I mean, you're kind of saying it as if maybe.
Starting point is 00:54:08 But, I mean, did she? She has woken up while you're camping with other people, got totally naked, went out for a swim. Yes. Okay. Where other people doing the same thing are just you guys? Just us. So you're the only couple that's out.
Starting point is 00:54:22 So you've always been kind of nudists, not just you. Yeah. Maybe your wife, too, that you're getting naked in front of all your friends and they're cool with it. Are there kids there too? No. No, no. We wouldn't do it around kids. We wouldn't do it around just anyone.
Starting point is 00:54:35 If it was friends, that we knew were okay with it. We would do it. If not, you know, I've answered the door buck naked before. That's very rare. It was just someone who I knew would handle it and probably get a kick out of it. Uh-huh. But generally, you know, we've got two teenage boys. Because in other countries, it doesn't matter where there's kids or not.
Starting point is 00:54:58 When it's a non-sexual thing, right? We're very uptight in America, and I think it becomes kind of sex. because it is naughty because we're so uptight, right? So like, but in other countries, people go with their families. It's no big deal. You know, that's why I'm wondering if it isn't the sexual thing and you guys are just really comfortable and it's no big deal that. I mean, that stuff goes down like I said in other places with families all the time. It's not, you know, but so, you know, with you guys, it's somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Like it's not really a sexual thing, but you wouldn't do it in front of other cop. I don't know. It's a little confusing. Well, I mean, it's okay, like, so we have two teenage boys. Yeah. When they were younger, we were naked around them all the time. Yeah. They don't want to see that. They don't want to see their mom and dad naked sitting on the couch.
Starting point is 00:55:46 You know what I mean? Yeah. So I just had respect for them. Now we don't, you know? Right. And if it's someone else's child, I'm not going to, you know what I mean? Yeah, no. I think in other countries because it's just very, it's just common that people do that all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:00 It's not even thought of, right? Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Yeah, it's just, it's not, you know, it's just the way that it is in their culture are we're very uptight. So the naked body is much more taboo, right, in America. So, you know, I'm surprised that, I'm not surprised that there's places that you found that other people are naked and you're all naked together, but that you would do it in front of friends where they're all clothed, right? But you guys are the only ones naked, you and your wife. So maybe she's a nudist too, would you say?
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah. In fact, she just described herself as a nudist for the first. time the other day and I was like all right she just said she was in need it's right is she because it's like different yeah to me it kind of that seems a little different than just like being at your home and being naked right we're like no I'm going to go out where the naked people are you know right when was the last time you guys hooked up with somebody else um as a couple yeah or separate well it was separate last time she did was last November and it was with that same guy the married guy And again, that was like, okay, you know, right now she thinks, okay, I think I'm good.
Starting point is 00:57:11 It's like, well, you said that before and there's been years gone by, you know, so. But, and then other than that, the last time that the two of us had an experience with someone, it was with a woman. And a friend of mine, another former bandmate, actually, bands are working out for me and she's single and we've always been I've always been attracted to her she's always been attracted to me
Starting point is 00:57:41 and I was and this is this came about well exactly something about how she had like a Facebook post where she like you know I wish I could
Starting point is 00:57:54 I'm so horny I just need a guy or something and I mentioned to my wife and she's like we'll call her up I said, really? So then I called my friend and I said, I can help you out if you want. She's like, don't mess with me. I'm like, no, I'm dead serious. I'm like, how do you feel about being with women?
Starting point is 00:58:13 She's like, I love it. I said, okay. So we made plans and she came over and we had a great time. I screwed them both. They licked each other, fingered each other. at one point one of them was riding me like reverse cowgirl
Starting point is 00:58:38 and no riding me front regular on top and then the other one was sitting on my face and I can hear I make it out and it was great right and then we did it again and the second time
Starting point is 00:58:52 my wife was kind of done before me and this other lady were and so we kept going and my wife kind of started to feel bad about it later, you know. At the time, she was like, good, take care of them. I need help.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I'm done. But then later, she started to feel bad because she couldn't, you know, last as long as we could or whatever, you know, so she started to kind of feel bad in that way, I think. Mm-hmm. And she also feels like she's never enough for me because I always want, like, I always want to have sex for, you know, as long as possible. right
Starting point is 00:59:32 and she doesn't want it to be so long she doesn't want to she's into that once in a while right I mean it totally makes sense you know she's I get it but it's you know she feels like she's not enough for me that way and that makes me sad right I try to reassure her
Starting point is 00:59:51 well now you said because I'm going to wrap this up now but you said that your wife was interested in calling in right is she going to be able to call in I believe so. She hasn't committed 100% on it, but I think after I've talked to you, I think,
Starting point is 01:00:08 and she's listening to the show too. She likes your show. I'll just, I think she thinks she should be a great guest. I mean, she's the, she's the nugget of the couple of us as far as talking.
Starting point is 01:00:19 She's the gold nugget out of the two of us as far as talking on your podcast. Yeah, she's going to have to confirm because I think people are going to call bullshit on this episode. That's just what I think. There's a little part of me that is not really 100% going to buy.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I don't know. I have to listen to it back. It's different. You know what I mean? I'm talking to you now. I'm going to edit it and listen to it back and air it. You know, I air all my episodes of people calling in. But your girl calling in and talking about all this stuff as well will put any suspicion to rest, right?
Starting point is 01:00:56 I mean, because she's going to call up. I hope so. All these stories. I mean, for sure. unless she's lying. I mean, I would find that hard to believe. I will find it, you know. So it'll be super interesting to hear from your girl for two reasons. One, because every guy that listens to my podcast is always dying for female guests. They're harder to come by. I get more guys calling in, you know, so whenever someone says, oh, my wife is interested in calling in or I get an
Starting point is 01:01:20 email from a girl, I really try to make that shit happen, you know. So keep me posted on that. Let her listen to this episode and let me know if she wants to call in and let everyone. Everyone know that you are telling the truth and all these stories are the real deal. It'll help you. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You know? Yeah, and I wish there wasn't a doubt in your mind, but I understand.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yeah, you'll see when you listen to everybody. I don't know you. I've talked to a lot of people. I happen to, there was one time where I was calling somebody out on their fucking bullshit to a friend. And he's like, who are you, the truth police? And I was like, yeah, actually I am. I'm the fucking truth police. That's my job.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yeah, I've been given this like spighty sense. I just, I see through things and I, and I cut through to the truth and because I love the truth. I always get it, even when I don't want to. And so when I have a feeling that something might be bullshit, I have to trust that feeling. There's something about this call that. I don't really, I'm not 100% sold on the fact that you're telling the truth. I have to go back and listen to it a second time. And then, you know, my listeners are going to chime in and tell me what they think.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Of course. You know, I will see. But your wife calling in would be super helpful because maybe, you know, the only other thing besides you're full of shit is that you're just a bad storyteller, you know, and it's the way that you talk. I am. I'm a big picture guy. I don't. The details are, you know, lost on me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 That's a possibility. She'll be a better guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She'll talk more. I can get her to, you can save my name. What? She can save my good name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:04 So she could call in and that would be a great part two to this to let everybody. So let's leave that hanger, you know, hanging out there and you let me know when she's down and keep me contacted and keep me posted and I'll keep you post on when this is going to air. But thanks so much for calling in. Thank you, Kathy. All right. All right. Mark. Keep up the awesome work.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I will. And please let me know. Get on your wife to call her in. Call in. I need her on now. Okay. Bye. Bye. Take care. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show.
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