Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 352 - Married Mandy has Been Having Sex with her Best Friend's Husband

Episode Date: September 7, 2020

Mandy has been having having sex with her best friend's husband for many years and her husband (episode #351) digs it. How did she start sleeping with him? How long has this affair been going on? What... exactly do they do with each other when they hook up? Tune in for all the details which include their sneaking and fooling around during mutual family vacations, the threesome she had him and her husband where she showed him how she squirts, how they got caught by the cops fooling around at a wedding, how she's tried to stop because she does feel guilty but she can't, where she stands with him now, the cuckold role playing scenarios she has with her husband and a whole lot more.   **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Santa Paula or Thailand. You can't not do it.
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Starting point is 00:03:07 I get so fucking confused of all my guy's names, all my caller's names because I'm just juggling 10,000 names and ones. Mark. So Mark called in last week, right? He was the one who I called up for lying. I hope you all listened to that intro. Because I skip intros on other people's podcast, so I think a lot of people skip intros on mine too, right? But I hope you guys
Starting point is 00:03:25 listened to that one because I talked about how I accused him of lying and I was really fucking wrong because when I edited back I believed him and then his wife called in like what happened was funny because we had a whole thing about me accusing him of lying and then he was like my wife's going to call it and I was like okay great
Starting point is 00:03:41 but I swear I was like mark my words like so if somebody was like standing next to me I would have made a bet for like a thousand bucks like there's no chance in how his wife is calling like this is just bullshit right and I was just calling his bluff. I'm like, yeah, and then his wife does call in, and she gives the same story in her words, I'm still kind of like, hmm, she lying. I don't know what the fuck was going on with me
Starting point is 00:04:04 at the time, because I taped them a while ago and then, you know, listening back when I edited his podcast, and even hers now, I'm like, why was I thinking that they were lying? And like I said on his intro, I think it was because I had a string of people calling, who were blatantly lying. It making up the most ridiculous stories. And I was, you know, super distrustful because of that. Because since then, that hasn't happened and time has gone by and I'm back to my normal self and I'm not so distrustful. And I like, listen to these episodes.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I'm like, why did I do this to these poor people? But with her, we talk about that at the end of the episode. I eat crow with her and really apologize about, you know, calling them out. And I talk about a quote I posted on my Instagram, which I think is really great. It's, you know, if you have the choice between being right and being nice, choose being nice. And I was like, yeah, I have a fucking problem with that, right? Because I always go for being right. Anyway, but so she calls in.
Starting point is 00:05:12 We talk about that at the end. But what the whole podcast is about is we really get into, an interesting part of it, right, is that we really get into her affair. with her best friend, and I'm going to put best friend in quotes, with her best friend's husband. Because when she started sleeping with him, the girl wasn't her best friend, right? He got married to her. She didn't know her that well. She's sleeping with this guy on the side.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Her husband knows about it. He's into it because they both have a cuckold fantasy, right? She likes to be with other guys, have her husband watch. And then as these, you know, this guy stayed married, she became really good friends with the girl. She didn't stop, right? But, I mean, it didn't start out that it was her best friend. She talks all about, she gets really into detail about her ongoing sexual affair with this guy. It's not an emotional affair.
Starting point is 00:06:01 There was a moment where she felt like maybe she caught feelings, but really she just had a lot of sex with him. Not every day. It's not like a all the time thing, but every now and then at the campsite, at weddings, the cops are involved. There's just a lot of details and stories that go down. She talked about the threesome between him and her husband, and because they wanted to show him how she learned to squirt. You know, she had figured out squirting somewhere along the line. He talked about that, but like I said, she gets into much more detail,
Starting point is 00:06:37 and it's her affair with that guy and all the sex she's had from her point of view. And then we talk a little bit about her and her husband's cuckold fantasies and, like, the role playing that they do together. So it's a super interesting story, and I'm just going to be right back on, with Mandy. How are you this morning? I'm good. Nervous, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Nervous? There's nothing to be nervous about. I mean, a lot of people say that they're nervous, right? First of all, this is pre-recorded so it doesn't, you know, when it's listening now. So we could always edit it out. And the second thing is that I would say five minutes into it, everyone's not nervous anymore because I'm really super easy to talk to. And you don't have to really do anything. I'm going to ask all the questions.
Starting point is 00:07:15 You just got to answer and be honest. Okay. That sounds good. I mean, I'm really, I would never just like call in on my own. It's just that like Mark really wanted me to. So I'm just doing that for him. Yeah, well, that might be a problem. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I typically feel like sometimes when people are calling in, not because they wanted to, but because somebody else told them to that they, it's harder for me to get information out of them. But since you're a female and my listeners love to hear from females, I'm going to I'm going to still tape this and try to get the best information out of you. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to like hold back from you or anything. It's just that it wouldn't. It's just like my private life isn't something that I just like volunteer to people unless I have like had a bunch of drinks in me and then sometimes I spill it.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a couple on the other day and they both called in together and they were super fun. And later after it was over, they sent me an email and they're like, oh, we think we drank a little too much before that episode. I had no idea that they were a little buzzed, right? But probably they did that because she felt the same way you did. But we're talking very early in the morning. So I'm assuming you didn't have time to have some cocktails. I did not.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So this is the deal. I'm going to air. I already spoke with your husband. When he first emailed me, he said that you were probably on board to talk. And I was like, oh, I think it's better when I do a couple separately. Because when I do them together, it's a lot of times the guy takes over and talks too much and then we never hear from the woman. And we always want to hear the woman's side. I want to hear the woman's side of this story for two reasons.
Starting point is 00:08:56 One, because I called your husband out on lying, right, and thought he was making shit up. And two, because. Which he was totally pissed about, too. Yeah, I know. I know. We had emails about it. He sent me a whole long email. And then two, the reason is because, like I said, we always like to hear from women.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And there's, like, interesting parts to your story and things going. on that I get why as a woman maybe you feel like odd to sort of put it all out there but I promise you I don't even know who you are you know nobody will know I change your voice you're changing your name you won't
Starting point is 00:09:29 be you know so it could be anyone telling the story you know right so I talked to Mark before I'm going to air his episode first people who hear that you know he talked all about your guy's relationship you guys opening it up and you know testing out the waters and sleeping with other
Starting point is 00:09:45 couples, right? You've had a couple experiences. We'll talk about that. And then there was this whole other thing about you hooking up. Now, he said in his email was like your best friend, but it didn't start out like it was your best friend and they got together, right? It was like
Starting point is 00:10:02 you you became friends with her. Right. You became friends with her over time, but it turns out that you started to have an affair with this guy, right? Then he hooks up with your friend and now they're together but you haven't been able to stop it, right? Every now and then you have sex and you guys feel bad. We're never going to do this again,
Starting point is 00:10:19 but you fucking do it, right? Pretty much. Yeah, it's pretty close. Yeah, I think that happens a lot. You know what I think. So, you know, and I know that you said you, a part of maybe you coming on would be, you could talk about that and maybe get advice on it. I don't know. I mean, do you want to start there with that story? Do you want to stick up for your husband and do a little, like, you know? Well, I mean, we could talk about the married guy because I mean, that's the biggest thing probably in my mind.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Right. Often. So what happened was like maybe about a decade ago or so. I was like sitting at a campfire with this guy. And we're like, so we live in different cities and we're like in a vacation area together. Yeah. And, you know, and he wasn't anyone that I was like instantly drawn to at all. like I'd kind of seen him around.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But, you know, we're like sitting at this fire. And he starts telling me about his childhood. And I was like, I was drunk enough to just be like really open and honest. And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm just so attracted to you right now. Right. But you were with your husband at the time? Were you guys married or dating? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah. Yeah. We've been married. Yeah. And. And so at this point, we had had sex with. one couple. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:46 A couple of times. So I think I was feeling like maybe a little daring or whatever, like a little more open. And he had a girlfriend, but he wasn't married at this time. And I just said it, like, just to say it, like I wasn't really looking for, I didn't think I was really looking for anything to happen. But then he didn't, he didn't let it go. And then he just like kept talking to me. And he's like, what do you, you know, like, what are you talking about? Like, what do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'm like, no, like, you know, you're with somebody, like, this isn't, you know, like, this isn't right. But, like, we just, so we ended up, like, just talking, like, all through the night that night. And then shortly after that, we kind of hooked up where, like, he threw me on the hood of a pickup truck in the middle of the night and went down on me. And I gave him a blow job. And then we went home, and I was like, and then I was hooked. I was just like... Because it was good. But wait, where was your husband at this, like, little campfire thing?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Like, he was just around, you know? And so, like, when this first... He wasn't part of the conversation or anything. I do remember that I said to him, like, well, you know, Mark would probably want to watch. And he's like, yeah, I'm not into that. No, but I mean, like, you're all out of campfire, you said, right? Yeah. Were you there with your husband?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Or was he not there? He was there. Oh, okay. He was there. then when you snuck off with him, was it kind of like you guys were sneaking? Was his girlfriend there, too? Um, yeah. I'm, yeah, it was just like, you know, so late at night, you know, it's like, you just kind of wait until everybody goes to bed. Oh my God, I don't want to call you out for lying to, but was the guy, was the guy's girl, you know, the guy that you filled around with. Yeah. Was his girlfriend there as well? Yeah. He was there with his partner. You were there with your partner. How many other people were there?
Starting point is 00:13:44 at this like probably a couple you know and then we're just kind of whispering to each other yeah and then you know it's like you just so how does he sneak away though this is what i want to know because i know that like for you with your relationship because i already spoke with your husband and you just mentioned you guys had already been with other people so it wasn't like you were doing anything that bad it wasn't like you were going to be cheating you could probably know that you could go back and tell your husband he'd be into it but for him you know he's cheating on his girlfriend so So how do you guys get the time and how is he able to sleep away from a girl that he's with? Because she just went to bed earlier.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So it's like, you know, everybody's drinking like so much that they're not really paying attention. And then, you know, he's, you know, walking home from the campfire. And it might be like 2 o'clock in the morning where there's just like not that many people around. So like. So what do you mean it might be? Was it? That's a weird like that's. Well, because it happened like several times.
Starting point is 00:14:47 You know, so it's like like all we would do would be to like wait until we were like the last people standing. Okay. You know what I mean? So it's like people just, you know, they give up and they go pass out or go to bed and, you know, pretty soon. It's just the two of us. Okay. So that's kind of how that happened. So the first time it happened, Mark had said to me like, you know, I really think it would be good for you to have an experience with another guy.
Starting point is 00:15:14 because, like, he was the only guy I had ever been with. And so he kind of, like, encouraged me at first. And then, you know, and then once that happened, he's like, you know, you probably shouldn't be doing that because he's, you know, he's got a girlfriend and they're really serious. And, like, the next year after that, they were either, I think they were either engaged or married. But did it happen after that first time, more times? after that? Did you go back and tell your husband right afterwards? Yes, I did. So, so I think the first time it happened, like when you, like, put me on the hood of the truck,
Starting point is 00:15:55 that was like the first summer. And then I didn't see him again until the next year. And so over the course of that year, I started like, you know, I just was so interested in him that I kind of went through the girlfriend. Like, I tried to be friendly with the girlfriend. to try to see, like, I became Facebook friends with her and just, like, trying to, like, see pictures of them and, like, just got, like, kind of warmed my way in a little bit. And- But were you seeing her in person or just talking to her on Facebook, the girl? Mostly Facebook, because, like, we don't live near each other.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Okay. So, like, it just sort of, like, you know, we just happened to be in the same place in the summer, you know, where we, like vacation in the same place. So then like the next summer, I think was the summer that they got married. And so I actually got invited to her bachelor at party. And by this point, Mark was like, you know, you really can't be screwing around with this guy. Like, it's not right. Well, you only did it once at this point or did you do it more than once at this point?
Starting point is 00:17:04 So at the point where he said you shouldn't be doing it, it was just that one time. Okay. And I mean, why did he bring that up a year later? If you hadn't seen him, like, because were you talking about it and you were planning on it? Yeah. Well, I think, you know, I was still really interested in him. And like, and we were still like hanging out. But how did he know when you were talking?
Starting point is 00:17:24 You were still hanging out with him the guy? Yeah. Yeah. So we're like hanging out in the summer. Okay. But, okay. But we're a whole year later and you said you didn't see him that whole year, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So I didn't see him all through the year until the next summer. Right. So I'm just saying how does that conversation come out? around that he knows you're still pining for this guy because you're telling your husband even though you haven't seen him you haven't had any contact you're just talking to the girl like how is it that he thinks you're going to wind up with this guy again is it because you guys are going to meet up with him um well because so like when summer rolls around and we end up you know together again he and i are like going skinny dipping and we're talking and like and i tell and i tell mark
Starting point is 00:18:07 everything you know i tell him all about my feelings and so like Like he knows, like, that I'm, I'm just, like, really crazy for this guy. And so that the following summer, it was like another. You just said you went skinny dipping. You're skinny dipping with this guy in the next summer? Yeah. With the girl from there, too? No, I don't think she was over there.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But other, like, other friends, you know, would just be like late at night, like, hey, let's go, you know, let's go swimming. And we would go, you know. And so we would, like, flirt with each. other and you know nothing happened like in the water we're just like but super interested in each other and then so that try in that whole year after he went down on you and you supposed you told me that you told him oh we can't do this again but he was really after you i mean how did he contact you in that whole year no so there was no contact from him no contact at all okay and then um so like the second summer there was a time
Starting point is 00:19:12 where like we were a campfire with like two other friends of his like everybody else had gone to bed we'd been swimming we're like sitting out at this fire and this was over like where I was staying and Mark was like you know I'm going to bed or you're going to come to bed with me and I'm like no I'm just going to have one more beer and I was like nothing's going to happen because you know these other two people are here and everything and like and And then they laughed and it was just me and the guy. And we ended up, you know, making out. Where was his girl? In bed. She went to bed. Yeah, she'd gone to bed. Yeah, she'd gone to bed.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Like if you're all camping, where are people sleeping? They're in houses. It's like, you know, vacation houses. Okay. So she goes back to the house and goes to sleep. Yes. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. So we fooled around that night. And then. Where do you guys go to fool around that night? And what happened? Right. like right out by the campfire like where anybody like walking by could have seen us okay and do you have sex or does he just go down on you he went down on me and and i gave him a blowjob okay and then so then the
Starting point is 00:20:28 next time so that same summer i get invited well let me ask you this okay what you go back to your house that you're staying in or something and you tell your husband what happened Um, that time I didn't tell him for a couple of days because I know he wouldn't like it. Well, where was your husband while you're at the campfire, like, hanging out? Yeah, he was in bed. Okay. So you come into the house. He doesn't wake up.
Starting point is 00:20:56 He doesn't wonder where you are, even though he knows that you're into this guy and he's, he's not concerned at all or thinking that anything went down. Right. Okay. And then, yeah, but I did tell him a couple of days later. I just was like. Why didn't you tell him that night? I guess I felt guilty, but then I just, you know, I just can't keep secrets from him. Like, we're just really close.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And then if I try to keep the secret, I just feel like it's this, like, weight that I'm carrying around. And I just had to unload it. Okay. So then you tell him, and how did he react? I mean, it's kind of interesting because, like, with him, he just, it's like he gets really turned on by it. But it's like, it's like the feelings are complicated. because he was like, you know, he didn't want me to do anything, like, dangerous that would, like, you know, hurt the girl, his girlfriend, you know, he didn't, he didn't like seeing me so, like, strung out on this guy either. Like, he didn't think that was good for me. But then, like, the whole scenario, like, really turned him on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:03 So I would get this sort of, like, alternating, like, encouragement, but, like, don't do it. So then I get invited to this party down where they live. And I go. And Mark is like, be careful. I'm like, he's not even going to be there. It's just a girl's night. You know, like it's going to be fine. What kind of part?
Starting point is 00:22:27 Oh, is this the bachelor party? Yeah. Okay. So I go to this party and, you know, it's one of those like, you know, just drink as much as you possibly can. And I'd never, like, probably had that much to drink in my whole life. Right. And it's a bachelor's party.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So, like, who expects to see any of the guys, right? Yeah. And who shows up? He does. He shows up at the end of the night because he was out with his friends and there was some curfuffle of some kind. So, like, he and, like, one of his buddies came home. So then we're all, like, you know, hanging out at the house.
Starting point is 00:23:09 and I was sleeping in their house and like I just remember like seeing his feet come down the stairs. I were like, wow, he's like really coming from me like in his house with his girlfriend like asleep upstairs. And, you know, and we kissed and I sucked him off and then we went to bed. And I was just like a drug addict over this guy. You know, I just was like, I couldn't say no. And so that. But how is it like the next morning? Is anyone else sleeping at that house or is it just you?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Are you the only one that crashed there? No, there were like tons of people around. So where were you fooling around with him in the living room? No, it was the basement. I was like sleeping in the basement. Okay. And nobody else was in the basement with you? There were like two other people in the basement.
Starting point is 00:24:07 This is why, like, everything we did. It was always so cool. I know, but he goes down on you in front of these other people? Well, okay. So it's like, so everybody, it's very late at night and it's, you know, and it's dark and everybody's asleep. And it's like a finished basement. So there's like a few rooms in there.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And my friend that I was like, I was sharing a futon with this girl. And she was like dead asleep in this other room. And then his buddy was like on a car like like nearby. And so. Are you in a room? You're in a room with your friend or you're in the like right there. So so the like the friend was like in this other room where I was. And when he came down the stairs, I came out to like, you know, like by where the stairs were.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And there's this and there was a cot where this other guy was. And so so my guy comes down the stairs and we start kissing and stuff. And then I hear this like throat clearing noise and it's his buddy who's just sort of like, like he doesn't want to like scream at him like dude like yeah you're really really screwing up here he just like cleared his throat till he just like um yeah i'm like right here and so he just took his buddy and he just like took him upstairs and like found another place for him to sleep and then he came back okay and so you guys are where the buddy was but your friend is in the room where you were and you guys right around there and there's no sex no penetrations right yeah no i mean i think that
Starting point is 00:25:34 we just kissed a little and then i sucked him off and then and he took off. Okay. And how do you feel like the next day when you see his girl, like right there and you guys were all hanging out in the house? Yeah, I felt weird about it. And, you know, but I think, like, whenever anything would happen between the two of us, I would just have this, like, little, like, high for a couple days after, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:00 So I wasn't really paying too much attention to, like, feeling guilty or feeling remorse, you know, until later on. And then I would kind of find a way to like compartmentalize it. Like after she and I became closer friends, I would just like pretend that it never happened. Like that was just like a separate thing. And and I think that like because I did feel guilty, it's like I just tried really hard to just be like a really
Starting point is 00:26:35 good friend to her like what like the friend because she didn't have a lot of friends and so like sometimes when she would be like you know put me off a little bit I would just like I wouldn't turn away from her like I would like a lot of other people you know like I just was compensating because you yeah yeah she thought you're a good friend but you were just kind of like trying to be a good friend and being over friendly because you didn't want her to know yeah you were actually doing. And that just like made it so much worse because like then I become like one of her like over the years I become one of her like most trusted friends.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Right. And it's like and then I'm like really in a like in a really awkward situation because it's like like I was telling one of my really good friends about this situation that I've, you know, put myself in. And she's like, you know, being nice and understanding to me. And I said, listen, if I was having sex with your husband, would you want me to be your friend? And she was like, no, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Right. I'm like, yeah. Like, like, it's just, it's like a dumb thing, you know? But it's like, but I, I didn't like plan it out. Yeah, in the, yeah, in the, um, basement. Okay. So that was like, so that was one summer. So this was like roughly 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:27:57 So they get married. And I think, okay, they're married. It's over. Like, you know, he's not going to be. doing any of this. Like now that he's married, that was just like, you know, that was the last hurrah. And so nothing happened. Oh, I can't remember if it was either like the next summer or the summer after. And we were again, like at a campfire, like kind of, you know, just flirting a little bit and like everybody's gone to bed except for like his cousin and his cousin is just like can party
Starting point is 00:28:37 and it was just like god is this guy ever going to go to bed it's just the three of us right and finally your husband always goes to bed early too yeah that at that time he did yeah every time this is the third time well i mean like after he knows that every time he goes to sleep at these campfires you're hooking up with this guy i mean is right that he'd be either on high alert or does he go back because he wants it to happen. Like, what does he feel about it at this point? I think at this point, it was like a little confusing, you know. Okay, but he would still leave you behind at the campfire and go.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Right. Okay. And also at this point, we had young kids. So it was like one of us would be out, but not both of us. And it was like, well, you know, I'd been with the kids, you know, day after day after day. it was time for me to let my hair down. Right. Okay. So that's really why it wasn't always, you know, why we weren't together.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah. So anyway, like, so finally, I'm just like, I'm giving up. I'm just, you know, like nothing's going to happen and I'm just going to go to bed. And I said, I'm going to go. And I remember, like, and I actually remember, like, exactly what I was wearing. I had like a T-shirt, like, sundress on. And he reached over and he put his hand, like, under my, my thigh and like leaned into me and he said not yet.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Oh right. And I was just like I was just like so power like when he like would do stuff like he had like good moves like that, you know where I just was like okay. You know. And so and I so the the. I think it's like that thing that I think all women have it right. it's like that caveman throw me over your shoulder and take me kind of mentality that all women when we come in contact with that guy who's so uber confident and makes the decisions for us
Starting point is 00:30:41 it makes us for some reason we love that shit right absolutely i ate it all up and i you know and i never had any experience like that before yeah yeah yeah yeah because you're just sitting with your husband people will hear about your relationship with him i mean you guys been with each other since the dawn of time so you weren't very experienced. Yeah, I was not at all experienced. And it was like, so I knew I shouldn't be doing this, but it was so irresistible. Yeah. And I can't remember like why exactly because he said like, don't go yet, but I still walked away on my own.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And then he got on like a ATV and I could hear him like coming up behind me. And I just like jumped on the back of it and like bit his shoulder or like wrap my arms and legs around. Like, I was just like an animal. Right. And, and then so like he drove just like down the road somewhere like semi-secluded. And that was the night that we first had sex. And did he use a condo?
Starting point is 00:31:43 No. Like, I didn't, it didn't even like occur to me. No, I know that happens a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So then and but what's kind of funny is like, so that was like the first time we had intercourse and like, and we had anal. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Did you ever have anal with your husband? Um, not like successfully because he's like pretty big. Uh-huh. So it just was something that we were always kind of interested in, but like it only had worked out like a couple times. It wasn't like anything that was a regular thing that we did. Yeah. And so like this guy was just like a way better fit. So like we were, um, so he had me like on the seat of like the ATV and, um, and he was fucking me.
Starting point is 00:32:28 and I had my legs up, but it just like, he just wasn't, like, working for me. So I just turned around and he was, like, playing with my ass. And he was like, do you want it in there? I was like, yeah. And so he actually came in my ass. Right. So that was not in your pussy. So you couldn't get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah. But I did, like, the next day I got a morning after pill. Oh, you did just in case. Just in case, yeah. So. But do you go back and tell your husband that time? I did. I did. Right away?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, I told him the next day. And he was, yeah, he was, I mean, we're talking about like, you know, almost 10 years ago or so, it's like hard to remember exactly, like, how all the conversations happened. But he, you know, I think he was really turned on by it, but he was like, you can't keep doing this, you know. But does the guy know that your guy knows, or does that, like, let the guy think that he's clueless?
Starting point is 00:33:32 So the guy, yeah, the guy knows that I tell Mark everything. And he's like, I wish you wouldn't. And when did you tell him that? Like, are you talking to him like after you guys have sex? Is this before? Is this like, you know, when does that conversation happen with that guy? That I do not remember. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Okay. But like we don't have each other's phone numbers. We don't like text each other. We don't like, we don't talk unless we see each other. Right, right. So like a couple either, like I think a couple years went by after that. So it's sort of like, you know, something big would happen. And then we'd like really pull back from each other, like really try to be careful.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And then like I think maybe two summers after that was was when like Mark and I got into squirting and we were talking all about it. And I was like, hey, do you want to come see? Like, we could just show you. And he was, like, really reluctant to, like, come with us. And we brought him into, we brought him into our house and, like, into our bedroom. Is this in the campground too? Are your kids there? Like, are you guys there solo?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Like, where's this all going down? And where does this conversation happen if you're with a bunch of friends? We, like, we had been with a bunch of friends. And then it was like, you know, everything. kind of breaks up and he was walking towards his house. We were walking towards our house. And where was his wife at the time? In bed.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Okay, but your husband's up. Okay. Yeah. So we're up and, you know, and our kids are asleep in the house. And we're, you know, like, so the married guys walking one way. Mark and I are walking towards our house. And I said, and we've been talking about squirting like a whole bunch that evening, like with the friends, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And they were like, oh, I don't think that's really. real, you know, it's like, it looks like pee, it smells like pee, so I think it's just pee, you know. And so I said to Mark, I was like, you know, why don't we show him? Like, wouldn't that be fun? Like, and he said, he said, okay, and I just took off like a bullet. Like, I just ran after him. And I was like, hey, hey, why don't you come into our house and we can show you squirting? And he was like a little reluctant, you know, but like I think I was just so excited that, you know, just like, you know, just pulled him in. And so he came in with us and like into the bedroom and I whipped off my dress and like and like, and I was like just ready. And so, like, so after like the squirting show, I, like, leaned into him and I was like, will you give me what I want?
Starting point is 00:36:28 And he's like, what is that? And I was like, I just want to suck your dick. And I was like, that was my like compromise with myself because like, like, really what I wanted was like a DP. But I was like, well, that's like too much to ask. So I'll just like ask him if I could suck his dick while I get fucked. and you know that was like you know it made me happy right and so your boy your god your husband's there he's there you're with the he's loving it yeah and he's loving it he like this is right up his alley but i knew that like you know the married guy is you know he's trying to be married and he's you know
Starting point is 00:37:06 he's not trying to you know do this stuff and he's and he's told me that he's not interested in group stuff like at all so i didn't want to like pressure him into something the that he wasn't into group stuff? Yeah, like, even like the first night when I said, you know, Mark would probably want to watch, you know? Yeah. He was like, yeah, I'm not into that. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Because he does, like you said, like that caveman thing, you know, it's like that's just not how he operates. Uh-huh. So that was a fun night. And then, you know, and then I think it was probably nothing happened again for like four years. Uh-huh. Um, and, and, and I thought it was over.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I think he thought everything was over and everything was really settled. And like, and over this, like, and over those four years, we just like both couples got to be friends. You know, like we developed like a really nice friendship with, you know, the wife. And, um, you know, when we'd done some things to, like, we'd gone to like some shows together and got to dinner together and like, and, and, you know, like we didn't want to screw up that friendship either like even when like mark and i would talk about like wanting to do like group sex it was like well definitely not with those two because um for one thing they're like clearly not into it and but second while like we had a really nice friendship with them that we didn't want to ruin you know and so so maybe like four years after
Starting point is 00:38:44 the squirting show was when we're at wedding together and we're like in the buffet line and I just like turned to him and like and it's because I was drinking vodka and like hadn't like I wasn't like a big drinker at the time and it was just like it was a wedding and it was boring so I was just going to get drunk so it's like already like I'm already drunk before dinner and I he's behind me in the buffet line and he let me know that like he thought I looked really good because you know he usually sees me like at a campfire he doesn't usually see me like dressed up and and I turned to him and I was like you know I'm really just not over you and he's like yeah me too and then so that kind of started like at the whole
Starting point is 00:39:34 like reception us just sort of like whispering to each other and um and I said to him I was like I just I just want to kiss you. Like, I just, I just want you to know that I just love you and you mean so much to me. And I just, I wish I could just, like, kiss your face for, like, 10 seconds. And so we decide that we're going to, like, sneak off together, which was a really stupid idea because of, like, how many people were around and, like, how much, like, we were really drawing attention to ourselves, but, like, too drunk to, like, be making good decisions. And so we like sneak out of this reception like to where we think that it's like private like outside.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And and of course it isn't just a kiss, you know. And so as I'm like sucking his dick, I feel like these lights on me. Where were you guys? Where did you guys go? We're like out. We're just like outside this reception area like outdoors. Like but not far from like a parking area. And he was like, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And I'm like, in my drunk mind, I'm like, something's not right, but I don't really like, not really making like good decisions. Well, wouldn't you know, up comes a police officer. Oh, my gosh. And he's like, yeah, and he's like, you too get inside before I have to bring you down to the station. Mm-hmm. And we and so, you know, we got like. What was he doing to you and how far into things were you guys? Um, so like, so I had bent down and I was sucking his dick.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And then with the lights and everything, I was just like, I'm not sure what's going on. So I stood up. So he has like his pants are open and but we're just like standing up like facing each other. Okay. And probably have our hands on each other. But like, but he must have been, you know, going through the parking lot and when he did his headlights must have shined on us so so he basically just tells us to get inside and um and so like as i'm going inside there's like all these
Starting point is 00:41:56 people outside and i'm like what have i done you know like where do these people come from i'm like why like why am i like doing this stupid thing like where there's all these people around and like It's just, yeah, I felt really stupid. And so I, he tried to like hold me back to like make up a story of like where we were. And I just couldn't even look at him. I just was like I was just in like flight mode. And so I just, you know, it was just like I got to go find Mark. Like I don't I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And so I went back into the reception. But I thought the police said get in here like get an art my car. No, he said he don't know. we said get inside. Oh, like leave it. Yeah, yeah. Just get inside before, you know, you end up in a jail cell or something like that. And so, yeah, just terrified me.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Like I'm not the kind of person who is run-ins with police officers. Right. And so I just like ran in and like went into the reception. And his wife is like right there. And she's like, where were you? You know? because like she was like she was looking for me she was looking for him and like and we had sort of looked so suspicious I think all night the way he and I were like whispering to each other and then
Starting point is 00:43:18 we disappeared and so um so I was just like I don't know I just like I was just like I don't know I just like turned around I was just like I don't know and then um and then I just um stay with Mark and we like we danced a little bit more and then I was like I got to go to bed and we went down to we went to our hotel room where I just threw up and was just you know miserable and like and and Mark was like wow you know he's like what how was your eye you know and I was like well I kissed him and he's like oh honey you know and he's and he was like he was so sweet to me about it he's like he told me that he felt so bad that like he wasn't paying attention to how much I was drinking because he was like you know every time he had a drink he would get me a drink from the bar
Starting point is 00:44:13 and they were really strong and he was like I really should have been looking out for you and then you know at some point he just kind of left me on my own and was you know I don't know where he was or who he was talking to and and so he was he kind of like felt responsible for me which he wasn't responsible for my actions, but, you know, he felt bad that he wasn't, like, taken care of me or looking out for me. And, um,
Starting point is 00:44:41 but I, but that was all I said was that I kissed him. And that, like, but then, like in the morning, I told him the whole story about the police and everything. And,
Starting point is 00:44:50 and he was just really like, he was just really kind about it. He just felt really bad for me, you know, because, because it bothered me a lot. Like, it wasn't like the other times where I was like really having fun.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Like I really felt stupid. Okay. And so like so then by that time like I think it's like complete like it's completely done. Like okay. Like we got like called out by the police like this is going nowhere good. And if we keep doing this stupid stuff, you know, his wife is going to find out. And you know, it's just not, you know, there's nowhere good that this can go. and it just has to be over. And so nothing happens for like for two years.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And at this point, I'm taking a break from drinking. And I'm feeling so confident that I'm like, I'm 100% sober, like I can handle myself. So I go to the vacation house with just one of my kids without Mark. And, you know, and I meet this couple, and they have another couple of friends with them. And, you know, and they're all drinking, but I'm not. And at the end of the night, he says, you'll take a ride home.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And I don't usually need a ride home. You know, I'm usually like a walker. And I was like, okay, you know, it would be nice to just talk to him, you know. And we started a conversation at the, you know, at the campfire. earlier that I was like yeah we could finish our conversation you know talk to you know just talk a little bit you know because we have developed this friendship over the years and um so he takes me home and we're like sitting there and his his wife is asleep again yeah so he takes me home and then he kisses me and he's kissing me I'm thinking to myself like this is just okay like you know
Starting point is 00:46:58 I'm okay with it. You know, like I can kiss him good night and I can go in and I can tell Mark in the morning. Like nothing happened. I kissed him good night. You know, everything's cool until he like puts his hand down my pants. And it feels so good. Like, I don't know. I think he's like learned something over the years because it was like really, really nice.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And it was actually the first time that he'd ever given me an orgasm. And it was just like, you know, like that switch was turned on. And it was like, I, okay, I got to have you. And so we had sex that night, like outside, leaned up against my car. And then, you know, and then when we were finished, I was just like, all right, I got to go in. Like, we can't continue this. Like, you're not coming inside with me. Like, we're not doing anything else.
Starting point is 00:47:57 like I can't do I can't do anything else and so that was the last time that was last last year that was the last time so you never talked to him in between his wife has never found out mark did you tell your guy about that time well you know this was kind of weird because so the married guy says to me you know you're going to tell marg aren't you and I said yeah I tell him everything you know we're married we're We're like, we're really married. Like, I tell him everything. And he's like, well, I wish you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And it felt like, like that night felt to me like so much more special than any other time because I think over the years we had developed this friendship. And I really felt like I loved him. And I felt like he loved me. And like, and my response, you know, it wasn't just like, drunk girl like being wild it was just like totally sober like high on sex like you know had a really nice orgasm like from his fingers and then like squirted and it just like I felt so close to him that I didn't want to tell Mark like for the first time like it just like I wanted to keep it for myself like it was my own little thing and did you and
Starting point is 00:49:27 I did for like two weeks. But I was a rack. Like I was really, I was just like beside myself for those two weeks. I was like going to the gym and trying to like exercise out my feelings and like just really, I really had a hard time like keeping that from him. And then as time is like his time went on and I kind of came down from those feelings. I was like, okay, like, who am I loyal to? Am I loyal to this fucking guy?
Starting point is 00:50:02 Right. That, like, you know what I mean? Who would like never in a million years even, like, call me to see if I was okay. You know what I mean? Like, or my husband who's like, you know, who's loved me for, you know, 30 years. Like, no, it's, like, I kind of realized, like, how stupid that was to try to keep. that from him. And so I told him and, you know, he was like, he like he really gets off on these stories. Like he really thinks it's just super hot. But at the same time, he recognizes rationally that
Starting point is 00:50:42 it's not a good decision. Right. And then the thing that, and the thing that really upsets him the most is that like he wants to have sex with other people. Like he wants to have, you know, an open relationship and I'm the one who's saying no no no but then I go and you know keep doing this stuff right but I know from because he emailed me a lot of details of what we were talking about on his episode and I know that one of the last things he said is that you guys have recently got into like role playing with a cuckleding theme so this whole scenario and all the stuff that you would do right I mean wouldn't this all add to that role play I mean It totally does.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Like what other scenarios have you role played out? So like we've done some fun things where like one night I tied him to a chair and blindfolded him and then acted like I was having a man in my room and like masturbated and you know and he's just like listening to all of it. And we, I mean, it comes up a lot, you know. where like if I like if I if I if I if I suck on Mark I'll like pretend that I'm just getting nailed from behind right while I'm doing that stuff like that like he just loves that and I like it too you know right so I would think that this whole this whole time where you've been doing these things that he would just be really into it right because this is not this isn't role play this is supposed to be this is happening in real life right I mean you guys like to roll play cuckolding fantasies yeah I mean yeah I mean yeah yeah I mean yeah Yeah, it really turns him on. Yeah. But, you know, it's like there's just like the ethical issues with it, you know, with him being married and like her not knowing. You know, that's hard to get past because it just, you know, it feels really wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:41 To get past your husband. Yeah. I mean, really. I mean, both of us agree that like it's not a good situation, you know. And then, you know, and he was. just like to do something, you know, like if, if his wife was like, yeah, go ahead, you know, Mark would love that, you know, he would love to have another guy, you know, in the bedroom with us. Right. And, but not if it's, you know, at the expense of like potentially hurting somebody else.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Right. So where do you stand with this other guy now? Um, so, so I actually called him, um, like I didn't even have this phone number for like many years. Like I think I've only had his had his phone number for like maybe within the last year. I think I, and so, um, but I called him a couple weeks after we had sex last year. And I was just like, you know, I'm having a really hard time, you know, just dealing with my feelings. and and and he was I mean he's a very like kind easy to talk to person you know and he I mean he didn't say anything earth shattering but he was just like I said you know I really thought we were done with this and he's like yeah I did too I did too and he's like but you know I'm sorry to say this
Starting point is 00:54:08 but you know we'll be good for a while but it'll happen again right so you know I don't know just it's weird because I I really thought that like the more I just got to know him as a person, he would stop being like a fantasy guy. You know, I really thought that it had a lot to do with him just sort of, he was playing a role in my life as, you know, like, like I've, I've thought about him and like sort of use those scenarios to like turn myself on. so much more than just these like isolated incidents that would happen, you know? Right. I, you know. I mean, it's obvious that your guy's not just into the cuckold fantasy.
Starting point is 00:54:59 You're obviously into it too. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just, yeah, it's just been like really exciting and stuff. And I don't know. It's I just, I guess I just thought that it would like wane over time. But it feels. You guys find another guy to do this whole thing with?
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah, I mean, that would probably, I mean, that would be ideal for Mark. I don't, I guess for me, it's not something that I don't know how to like seek that out. Like if it happened like organically. Right, because this guy, you actually wind up really kind of liking him and he's your friend and you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's like, and that's really important to me, you know, I'm not going to just like randomly like hook up with someone.
Starting point is 00:55:49 one. Like I just, I don't think I would like that. Did the girl ever catch the end of anything? She was like, she would question things like, like, so like way back at the Bachelorette party, she was like really grilling me the next day like, where were you? Where did you sleep? When did you go to bed? Right. And like, and that, you know, and that would happen a lot like where like the next time I would talk to her, even if it was like the next week or a couple weeks later when I saw her, She'd be like, so when did you go to bed?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Who was up at the fire? Like what, you know, what happened or whatever? And I was like, oh, my God. Like, because, you know, she probably had a feeling, you know, because like, I'm not a subtle person. You know, I'm telling you this. Okay, I'm a woman. If I thought some bitch was sleeping with my guy and I didn't like it and I had some sort of hint that it was going,
Starting point is 00:56:44 I would never go to sleep and leave them at the fire pit, okay? So either she knew. Yeah. So either, how do you know that he wasn't telling her and she was into it? I mean, that could have been going on the whole time too. I don't know. But it doesn't make sense that she had an inkling and then let you, you know, went to sleep all these times at the fire pit and let, you know, this shit go down. I mean, she would be on hire and she would be up and she wouldn't be leaving you guys alone, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Well, you wouldn't think that. And I don't think as a wife, I would either. But, you know, the only thing I can say is that I think he's really good with his stories. You know, it's like the whole thing about him having game. Like he's, I think he's really good at like, you know, pacifying her and making her feel like she can trust him. I think I seemed very trustworthy. You know, it's like, oh, we've become such good friends. She would never do that to me.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And, you know, and then. But do you know her back that she doesn't know? Yeah. She's not the kind of person that would probably ever, she would never talk to me again if she knew. Right. It's not like she's in on it, like your husband's in on it.
Starting point is 00:58:01 No, no. She's not that kind of person. But, you know, and the only thing I can say, if it sounds like it doesn't make sense, I think it really has a lot to do with alcohol. Right. Because, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:15 it's like once you have so much to drink, you're not really thinking, oh, I got to be on high alert here. You're just like, I got to go way down. Right, right, right. So she's always wasted. Yeah. And, you know, and that was stuff that happened, you know, a long time ago. I mean, she's like, she's not really drinking that much right now. He's totally, he's not drinking anything right now. Right. And, you know, and Mark and I are really like, we're always together, you know, now that our kids are older, you know, I'm like, this is, you know, it's a much safer situation because there's much less alcohol around Mark and I are together. Like, I don't even like envision the, like these scenarios where he and I would end up alone together, you know, which is good.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And it's good because you feel bad because of the girl. I mean, that's the reason why it's good because you guys like the cuckolding thing. You want another guy around, right? You guys are both into that scenario, but it doesn't work with this guy because he's married. Yeah. And it's not fair to Mark either because, like, he doesn't want me to just, like, run off by myself. Like, he wants to do something with me. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And that guy's not into it. He just did that one time. Right. Right. Which we loved, but I don't think he loved. You know what I mean? Like, I think he just got drawn into it. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:43 He wasn't interested. to it that much. So where, so where do you stand now? You're hoping that you don't do anything. I mean, I don't have time to get into everything else. Mark basically explained the rest of your situation. You called up to talk about this aspect of it. Like I said, people will hear his podcast. They'll hear me accusing him of lying.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Then he was like, oh, I'm going to have my wife call up. I still have a some part of me that thinks you could be making this all up to and it's a part of your cuckold fantasy and you could Because I have had people in the past. I had this one woman that called up. She was seeing guys from, like, websites, and I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I was like something about this shit that doesn't make sense. And I was like, I think, you know, it's like a fantasy thing. You know, and I, I can see that some people. But do I sound like I'm lying? A little bit. I can't. Really? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:34 No, nothing. Nothing. I have to hear my, listen, I told your husband, because he's like, what's with your fucking, like, when he emailed me when he was. was angry that I called him out, you know, on the thing. And I do everything on the mic. You know what I mean? Everything's taped.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Nothing's on the down though. I'm not hiding anything here. And, you know, I called him out on him being full of shit on that podcast. And he was like, oh, like, what's with your, why are you doing that so much lately? And it's like, listen, I have always done that at any time that I feel like something doesn't sound right. And, you know, but I am always open to being wrong. I am not always right
Starting point is 01:01:14 for sure do you know what I mean I have a suspicious mind to begin with right and that's just me generally it's not from my show you know I'm always sort of looking at things and with a question mark I never just believe anything blindly right
Starting point is 01:01:28 but I believe most people that call into my show I don't I'm not there have been people that have called in like I know for sure they're fucking full of shit but the good ones and the people that are good at lying I will maybe feel like maybe they are but I don't really know for sure. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:44 This one, I'm curious of what people think, right? Well, you know, he's not, yeah, he's not, he's not even a good liar. You know what I mean? Like he just, yeah. Yeah. So it's like, it's interesting because, you know, it's like I've heard your podcast where people say this crazy stuff and you're just like, oh, okay, all right. No, no, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Well, they, but those have been, but it's not about the stuff. It's never, I don't call bullshit because the story sounds. weird or anything. It's never, that's never why it's bullshit. It's never about, it just something doesn't add up to you. It's just about the way someone talks. Sometimes they're using weird tenses, the way they're talking. It's the words that they use. You know, it's that kind of thing. Listen to your husband's episode when it airs. You tell me what you think. Because you know him and I said, like sometimes it could be that someone's just like a bad storyteller, right? Then he's like, I have my wife and I'm like, let's see if she actually calls in. You did call it. And then your
Starting point is 01:02:38 story's just going, I'm like, I don't know, because there is that sentence. in his email like we have a cuckled fantasy so this is the deal like I let you do your thing you told this story you know I don't I don't call bullshit on this there's a little part of me that thinks it could be I can't wait to hear
Starting point is 01:02:55 I'm just bringing this up at the end because we started with that and people are going to hear this whole thing in his episode right and these are connected you know what I mean your Mark's wife people will hear that I you know called him out on it then he sent me an email like being like fuck off like I wasn't lying like it
Starting point is 01:03:11 kind of made me angry. And I was like, listen, I love to be proved wrong. I really do. I'm not the type of person that's like, oh, I'm right no matter what. And if you show me proof that I'm, I'm still going to stick to my story. Not at all. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I think you just to really hurt his ego because he's, he's a very honest person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think he had like expectations of like what it would be like to talk to you because he is really a big fan of your podcast. Yeah. Oh, no. And he thought, you know, he just really. thought it would be like a really good experience. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And then when he called you and like you, you know, call bullshit on it, it was just like, I think it really, I think it really hurt him. Yeah, I think it just really hurt. That makes me feel very bad because that's, I really do. And I tried to get that like point across to him in my email and he'll be listening to this. But I really do appreciate everybody who takes their time to call into my show. I always feel connected to people.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Regardless, whether they're lying, whether the story's crazy, anything, like, I really do feel for the people and create a connection with the people that call in. You know, especially whether they're listeners or they just call in if they're both, even more so. So I do appreciate, and I do find these kind of situations interesting. This is interesting to put it out there, right? I have a little bit I call bullshit, but I'm open to me being completely wrong. And what's going to happen is that's going to be really interesting is a lot of people are going to, chime in, you know, and, uh, and tell me I'm fucking wrong. And I think that that's totally cool. But what's hard, you know, what's hard is it like, you know, like for him to like share some of his,
Starting point is 01:04:53 like, you know, his, like his gay stuff, which like I didn't even know about. Yeah. You know, like, it's like I've known him for 30 years and like he just told me like two weeks ago about some of that stuff. Yeah. And so it's like, you know, here's this person who's like really sharing his really intimate details. Yeah. And then it feels like you just, you know, slapped him in the face.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Well, I don't, I don't think I was saying that everything was fake. Do you know what I mean? It wasn't, it's not that scenario that he's made up this whole fucking life story. No way.
Starting point is 01:05:27 But I get that and you're, you're actually making me feel really bad. I really need to apologize to him. Because it is, it is fucked up right? When you put it that way, right? Like someone called in, they're really a fan of your show.
Starting point is 01:05:38 They're expecting this really great experience. and then you give them a not great experience. So, yeah, that's fucked. That's fucked up on my part. And I hate to do that. It's like inviting a guest over to your house and then treating them like shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:51 Because I do see that like when somebody gets on the phone with them. They are like a guest on my show, no different than if I invited them over. And then now I'm accusing them of lying. So yeah, you're, that's right. And like, but I am also, though, the type of person that can't, if I just, if I feel that way, I have to kind of put it out there. but maybe I shouldn't have. I remember reading this one thing recently where it's like, you know, maybe it's better to be nice than right.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Like if you have the choice between being right or nice, why don't you choose nice? And I'm the type of person, the fucked up person that always has to prove I'm right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Instead of like just being nice. And in that situation, like you said, with your husband, I chose to sort of stand up for, oh, I got to be right over I got to be cool with this person because they called, you know. And that's wrong for me. And, you know, and for that, I really should apologize.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I have to work on that part. Like I said, the reason why that stood out when I saw that saying was because I have that fucking problem. I'm more about I got to prove I'm right. And whatever I have to do to do that. And even if it's hurt someone's feelings or whatever, I stand by that. And that's, that is a wrong thing. And that's a bad part of my personality.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Yeah. And like, you know, and I have nothing to gain by, like, making up this story to tell you. Right. The only thing I would think is that it was a couple. I just thought it would be like a cuddling fantasy. And I do believe some people over the years, I've been doing my show for six years. And I would say most people call up and tell the truth. There's been a couple of complete lies.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And then sometimes I think maybe it could be like a fantasy that someone had and they use it. And I totally understand that. But I don't believe that in this situation. There's just a small part of me that thinks that could be true. Like I said, I feel bad that your husband felt that. way. I'm wrong for doing that. Well, listen, if I was going to make up a story for my own enjoyment, like, it wouldn't have taken me to 10 years to have an orgasm with this guy. You know what I mean? Like, it would have just been a lot, like, a lot more, you know, it worked out a lot. Like,
Starting point is 01:07:53 yeah, yeah, like the story would have been better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but it was a good story. Thank you so much for calling in. I feel terrible about myself, but I do like being called out on my shit, right? I always say this like as long as we're alive, we could grow and change. That's what it's fucking about. I still have to perk on myself. I still cut people off a lot. I wasn't nice to your husband. I prove that I'm right over being nice. All these things I know I have to deal with. But thank you so much for calling in. Please tell your husband. He'll listen to this and hear me. I really need to apologize to Mark. But I can't wait for my listeners to chime in. And where you go to see that is a lot of people, you know, chime in on YouTube, right? And I, because
Starting point is 01:08:32 women episodes are so much are so popular people will be fucking chiming in they're gonna probably wait and to hear yours because i'm gonna air his first probably next week and then after that yours and then we'll start the conversation going and like i said i don't i don't mind being wrong i actually like it it knocks me off my fucking threat you don't know me no you don't know fucking everything and that's always good for no at all do you know what i mean so okay so thank you for calling in right Thank you for explaining that stuff. Besides telling your story for letting, you know, for giving it to me straight about how your husband felt. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:11 All right. All right. Thanks. What do we call you, Mandy? Mandy. All right. Thank you, Mandy. All right.
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