Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 359 - Eric is Heteroflexible

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

Eric is heteroflexible and he calls in to talk all about it. What does it really mean to be heteroflexible? When did he first realize he was heteroflexible? Does anyone know about it or does he keep it a secret? Tune in for all the details which include how he used to be a stripper in a gay club and how that led to his first experience with a guy, what he liked to do with guys in the beginning, what he likes to do with them now, how he cheated on his baby mama with both men and women, how she found out he was into guys, how she reacted, his relationship with his current girlfriend and how he got her to squirt, what he's looking for in romantic relationships vs. sexual relationships and a whole lot more. **If you want to get in touch with Eric, he gives out his email address at the end of the episode. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Okay, now I'm going to get to the person. I have a other show today. His name is Eric. I taped him a long time ago, like most of my callers lately. And he called in. he had wrote in and said, oh, I want to talk about, like, you know, the difference between bisexuality. I don't think you really got it.

I had another guy on who talked about that, like, right before I talked to him, I already aired his episode, but it turned out that me and him talked more about, I mean, we talked about the fact that I don't get it right. He explained what bisexual means. He's heterosexual. His name is Eric. He's heterosexual. He figured that out a little later in life, and we talk about that.

We talk about what he does. He's got a lot of cheating stories. You know, when he was a stripper, right? And his first experience with another guy was the shot guy at the strip club where he worked. He was a male stripper. And we talk about all that kind of good stuff. Like when he figured it out that he was into guys, when he started hooking up with them, what did he do? How did he cheat on his girl?

He cheated on his baby mama a lot. And especially there's like some vagus stories that are really funny and kind of crazy. but we talk about how eventually at the end of this story, he did, he does come out clean. He is open about being heteroflexible. And we talk about how he got there and where he's at now. So sit back, relax, and I'm going to be right back on with Eric. How are you today?

I'm doing my home are you, Kathy. I'm good. So, you know, I think when you had emailed me the first time, Like the day you sent me an email was the same day that I had just spoken to somebody about the same issue that you had with me and my show. You wrote me an email saying like, oh, you know, you were listening to a bunch of my episodes. And you felt like the whole bisexual thing, right, was very confusing. And I was, I mean, somebody else told me I was totally getting it wrong. You were writing in to tell me that you're a millennial.

And in your guy's world, right, you have a totally different name for it. That same day, I had, I haven't, I haven't aired his episode yet because I'm so backlogged and airing people and I just have so many taped. But a guy had wrote in similar achievement and said, hey, listen, I listened to these, you know, conversations you have with these guys and you guys are always debating what bisexual is. And I think you have it totally wrong. And he actually made me see the light. I did have it totally wrong. He said something that you said in your email to me, which is like bisexualism, when a man actually can feel romantic to men or men or. women, right? But what about the guy like you who just feels like they like to fool around with

a guy every now and then? What's the word for you? And now you told me, you know, millennials have a different word for it. So why don't you take it from there? Yeah. So in my, well, my experience, so like when I was listening, you know, and the guys were like, oh, well, I'm not bisexual. So to me, bisexual means that, you know, like you said, I can be in a romantic relationship with a male or female. Right. I call it heterosexual is the word that they came up. But I guess so it's like for instance, like I am romantically close-minded in my opinion.

So it's just women who I want to be romantic with. Sexually, I'm open-minded to either sex. So I don't consider myself bisexual because I don't see myself dating a guy. Right. And let me just tell you. I don't know if it was aggravating to you as it was to these other people that have wrote into my show and I've seen comments,

I had always had it like as the opposite that. It was always to me, someone's either homosexual or heterosexual and then there was bisexual and like, you know, if you, that was devoid of romantic feelings, right? So if someone, to me, like if someone could have romantic feelings for a man, they were homosexual. But what about those people that could be romantic, like you said, to both men and women? And that really is what bisexual is for. And I had been having this argument with so many guys.

Because guys will call up the show and be like, yeah, I like dicks my mouth. And I'd be like, you're buying. I'd be like, no, I'm not. And I'm like, yeah, duh, you know. But I had had it totally wrong, right? And that's the thing. A lot of people are, like, I just think they know, like the stigma or the label of bisexuality. Yes.

At the end of the day, like, you suck a dick, you suck a dick. Like, it is what it is. And you suck the dick. So who really cares about the lady? So I think that's why they came up with the whole heteroflexible concept or sexually open-minded You know, in this day and age there's so many different kinds of sexualities different terms of everything Like it's hard to keep up like I still don't understand the whole polyamorous kind of thing like I just don't get it It hurts my brain. I know yeah, it's just too much like there's like male female trans

This that the everything and like it's just it's just adding so many things like LGTBQ is going to be you know, 15 letters, the next thing we know. It's just going to keep adding to it. So it's definitely a brain rocker, I guess you can say. Yeah, but listen, I'm here to tell you, doing my show for like six years and talking to all these people, like, they do have to have that many categories because there's so many different variations to what people are into and what people like, right? Like, you're a guy that is only romantically into women, but you like to suck a dick

sometimes, right? And sometimes I have people on that I think are bisexual, but, you know, they want to be, or I didn't think that they were bisexual. I would think they're homosexual, but they are interested romantically in men and women, right? There's just, they're really, they really, if people want to label themselves and they have to label people, they would need all those labels

because there's so many different variations of what people are into because just people are unique, right? There's just so, and there's so many people, and I've talked to them all. And, you know, if I had had these words six years ago, maybe I would have been, you know, been able to label people better because I, like, grew up in the fucking, I don't know, you know, I'm like not a millennial. I'm 51. So for me, the words we had were homosexual, straight, and bisexual.

That was it, right? And so to me, anyone that fell in between was like, bye, but I always thought it was a sexual thing and I was wrong. You're heteroflexible, right? Hetero flexible. Yeah. And I guess there's a homo flexible, which is I'd listen to a guy who just, in one of your shows where I guess that's what he'd be categorized. as he was gay and then he started sleeping with women. I think it was the first one was like a big one and then like a big woman and then

he said that, you know, he was going to continue to sleep with women because he actually enjoyed it. Yeah, I remember that one. That was a first for me. That was a good, I like that one. That was a good film. That was a good thing. Like, and that's the thing. A lot of guys out there.

So, you know, I have this view. Like, you know, when people call your show and say they're bisexual and they're like, I've only messed around with one guy or like, I'm into man. I've only messed around one guy or I'm into guys, but I haven't acted on a fantasy. Let me start off as saying. I just think these people are completely bullshitting themselves. At the end of the day, in my opinion, and, you know, as a guy that terrorist, well, I'll be honest with you. I've messed around with, you know, probably a lot more than one guy.

I know that. That's for sure. And it's just so accessible nowadays. Like, and that's the thing. I was relationship for 12 years. With a woman. With a woman. Yep, we had kids, you know, the whole thing,

we're going to plan on getting married, but she ended up being, you know, just how things go. It didn't work out. It didn't work out in the end. And during that time, I really, I can't say since I was younger, I was into, man, I don't know, like, I would look at them and be like, okay, you know, he's good looking,

but I've never had any sexually, I was never sexually attracted to them. Like, it was never like, oh, I wonder it would be like to suck his dick, or, you know what I mean? It was always just like, you know, kind of an optics thing, okay, he's good looking cool, just keep it moving. It was always just women I was interested in. Yeah. And even when you were like

looking at porn and jerking off, it was always just women? Just women. Okay. I'm not going to lie, the guy had to be good looking in the straight porn. Oh, okay. So that might have been a tell. Yeah. Like an overweight guy just wouldn't do it for me, like an older guy, like they had to have a fair look.

I would change it. I still, to this day, I can't, like, you know, I can't come for porn unless both of the participants are a good look. And, you know, like that whole dick-side thing, that doesn't really matter. Like if you actually know that dudes with big dicks, they have girlfriend seemed to be less pleasureed by them. It's, it's just weird.

It's a weird dynamic. And, you know, I've had a bunch of threesomes and I've noticed that actually. But, you know, it's, it's crazy. So I started, so when it started for me with guys was, I was with the girl, we were together, like I said, for 12 years. Yeah. Ever since I was little, I always liked to be. like nude as much as I can.

Oh my God, that's my son. He's a full-fledged nudist. Yeah, I love it. Absolutely love it. So even since the young kid, I always knew that I was going to be a stripper at some point in my life. Oh, my God, you became one? I wanted to. I want to stripper. Oh, my God, that's what my son's going to be. I'm telling you, it's just like, you know,

I've always, you know, I know, a lot of people are probably going to end up thinking I'm full of myself at the end of this conversation. But, you know, I have a good body. You know what I mean? Like I'm in the gym five days a week, and I've always had a good body. I'm black. So at the end of the day, you know, I had a kind of leg up when I was born, you know,

which genetics. It's not when I've always been in good shape. So, you know, I started dancing at a strip club where I'm from. It was predominantly male and there's a reason behind it. Because at the end of the day, men are the only people that go to strip clubs on a regular basis. Female go for a visual or whatever. Right. Yeah, totally.

Exactly. You know, you want to go to real. girls who might go to fifth club once a year. Yeah, for a bachelor's. Everyone goes screaming and, yeah, screaming about the guy being naked, but they don't really care. It's just cheesy. They don't give a shit. Yeah, exactly. So the way that the club

is set up is women are only allowed Thursday and Sunday. And the reason why was because they had an incident a few years before. You know, guys in there had a little twink on his lap, rubbing his ass, dragging at the bar. And, you know, they locked females at any point during that time. Yeah.

His daughter walks in with her friends and sees her father at the bar with a little boy on his lap, you know, a little 18-year-old kid on his lap, rubbing his ass, like, you know what I mean? It's a way to get out of that one. Like, you know what I mean? There's no way to say, hey, you know. Right, because there's no naked girls in sight, right? So that guy's there to see naked dudes. And that's her dad.

Oh, my God. Exactly. Oh, I could only imagine how motivated it must have been. But, you know, when I was there, the number of men that would come and that were married, you know, they got the wedding ring on. And you could just tell by the way they carry themselves that, you know,

they're straight, you know, straight acting heterosexual guy who obviously, you know, has a tendency to go for boys. And I think a lot of people do it to conform to the social norm. You know, that they keep it secret.

Of course. Yeah. It was always older guys. Yeah, for sure. You know, so you said that you were older and the time you grew up, like I'm sure it was. when you grew up, bisexuality was something that people hid.

It wasn't something that people were openly, were open about. No, and still, I mean, a lot of my callers, I love when I talk to someone younger, right, because a lot of my callers are mostly older, and they're the ones that are still keeping the secrets because when they grew up, it was a very different world, especially for men. I mean, around the time I was starting to get a little bit older, it became cool for girls to start hooking up. Porn stars became, like, mainstream celebrities, right? but that happened while I was growing up,

so it became okay for women to be more experimental with their sexuality, but not men, you know, at all. So those men, I have a lot of those guys calling into my show, you know, so they could never be you.

They could never be sort of, they couldn't be open about it in a way. And that was a thing. So it's, it was a lot of like older guys who were positive. I mean, you had the younger, you had some young guys come in,

but they were just, you know what I mean? They had maybe they have a good thing. time after things with the friends you know see a dixie and ask whatever they were into and we had everything and the funny thing is like while working there i've been i learned a lot so you know i was i think it was like 22 at the time and let me let me quick question i'm not going to make sure i remember exactly where you were before you started at the strip club right you had never been with a guy right you had never thought you were into guys or anything you strictly got this job to make some money is that what it

It wasn't even just to make some money. It was just the whole nude aspect of it. Oh, right. I forgot you liked being in new. You were in nudity and you looked good. And the compliments. And you know what I mean? I like that sort of thing.

You know what I'm not afraid of a minute. Some people are like, oh, you know, I like the attention. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, like that. You're honest. Cool. Yeah, that's the thing. That's how I feel.

I'd rather be upfront and honest because you know what you're getting and who I am at the end of the day. Yeah, cool. You know, I've jerked, you know, when you're younger, you're 15 years old and 14 years. Don't get me and my friends. We always used to jerk off together. You know what I mean? In the same room.

And you know what I mean? Like you look at the dicks just to see like it serves as bigger than yours. That was the only reason really why to look at somebody else's dick. But I had never touched a dick or anything like that. Okay. So now you're 22 and you're in this place. Take it back from where you were going. Yeah.

So like I said, we had so many different, like there was somebody for everybody that worked at the club. But you had the really, really, really skinny guy, which they call a twink. And 90% of people that work there label themselves as straight. So you got the muscular guy, you got the ghetto guy with breeds, you got a couple black guys.

It was a little bit of everything. So it was a flavor for anybody that really wanted it. So when I started there was a kid that was there, it was a Cape Verdean kid. And from the moment, he was Cape Verdean. What's that? So Cape Verdeans like black and Portuguese. Oh, okay.

So it's island of Cape Verdean. darker skin, you know, this black guy, which honestly is usually wasn't like, like for me to like look at a black guy and find him attractive, me being black, it would, it's a certain, very certain select kind of one. So it was, you know, I found him attractive but never thought of him sexually. I guess, you know, it just, but you were always the type of guy that could look at a guy and say what they were feeling it.

And this guy, like, was up to your standards. He was good looking. He was a good looking guy. Yeah. So I was there for probably a little over a year. So during the first couple months while I was there, I was there. Now, I had a day job too, and I just went there at night. And, you know, I had a girlfriend, you know, babies kind of, you know, all that other good stuff.

So he used to be like, hey, you know, let me just suck your dick, this, that, and it's cool. So I'd be like, listen, Johnny, like, you know, it's not my thing. Whatever. I got a girl, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he knew all that. But he's like, well, you work in a male ship. club in for the most time. Like, you know, you got guys put your ass to give you money and you're getting your onstage

naked and you take sides of those afterwards. So how straight are you really? Yeah. And this is a nude club? So yeah. So we did a rotation. So your first rotation on stage, so songs are a rotation. It's a set.

So our first rotation of the night was we did one song in like underwear and then we stripped down. The second song, we did naked dance. And then after we were done on stage, the next person came up, we had a shower room. It was like a big open shower and they had seats and a bucket to tip. And then you would go take a shower and you would do a shower show. So each set you had was, you know, pretty much three songs, you know, underwear, nude shower. Yeah.

So, you know, it was. And then if some guys, so sometimes rotation came up quicker because, you know, we had private rooms. Yeah. So, you know, just like a regular female strip club, they have private rooms. but, you know, it's a lot more expensive in the male strip clubs than it as in a female. Really? Like, how much to take you in the back room

if I'm a guy? 250. And I wasn't type of person that you weren't getting anything. So, a lot of guys went against taking me and they could take other guys over me because... Word on the street was you weren't going to do shit. Right. I wasn't doing anything. I'll dance me. I'll dance on your lap naked.

You know, you can touch me. You can't touch my like ass or, you know what I mean? And things like that. And, you know, to the point of one that, I had a guy working on him. He's like, listen, I'm going to be honest with you. You want 250. He wants 250, but he's going to let me suck his dick. So obviously, you know, you're hot and I'm going to go with him. Yeah. So, and it sucks because during the time, it's crazy. There was, you know, the whole opiate epidemic was going on. So a lot of the guys that I was working with started to water down the prices, you know, because they were desperate. They wanted money to, you know, I'm assuming get high. So they were starting to do less, more for less. Yeah.

So, you know what I mean? The private rooms went from starting to. at 250 down to 150. And, you know, we used to be able to get, like, privates outside of a club, which would, you know, be $500 or $400, you know what I mean? So, but it started getting watered down, and that's what I ended up leaving. Okay.

But we're still back. We're at the story you're at where that guy's, like, hitting on you all the time. Yeah. So, like, he was a shot boy. So anything I got on stage, it was to the point where he would stop what he was doing, like, it would be working.

And he would, like, almost take a seat and watch me the whole time. And I would always see him watching me every time I was on stage. So I'm just like, all right, the attention's there, whatever. So I was just like, all right, this is kind of cool, whatever. To the point where, you know, Cuss would be like, oh, is that your boyfriend? And I'm just like, no, why do you say that? She's like, oh, because every time you're on stage, he just has his eyes moved on me. So whatever have you.

Now, this is maybe six months in. So, you know, June is Pride Month. So in a male strip club, you know, we had, you know, the whole month of June is just like crazy. You know, and where I live, you know what I mean? I live in a really small place. So, you know, we had a. parade, you know, I look close to Boston. So, um, you know, we had like the weekend is like the big pride weekend where they have the parade and, you know, even our strip club, we had a

float. So it was to the point where the club was like so packed this night and we were doing like, you know, uh, baby oil wrestling. We were doing everything. Like, you know, we had photographers there taking, you know, pictures of the people that want to be taking pictures of. Um, it was packed. Um, packed to the point where, so I was going to use the bathroom and there was like a lion to use the bathroom and I'm in line and used the bathroom and he jumped in line with me. So when I went to the bathroom to go to the bathroom, he came in with me at this point. So now, you know, I was a type of person that, you know, I had to have a couple drinks in me, like to really let loose.

So I was always, every time I work, I was drinking pretty much. So I'm in the bathroom, I'm using the bathroom, whatever. He's watching his hair doing whatever. He goes to use the bathroom. And we're just sitting there, whatever have you. he just went for it. So I'm at the sink, whatever, and he just, like, got down in his knees and, like, pulled down my underwear,

because that's, you know, what you wear stripper ties, just, you know, show up pair of underwear. And he pulls it out, and he just, you know, just did it. And at this point, I'm just like, all right, this kid's been trying for months. Like, let me just give it a shot. Like, like, I would just kind of, like, fuck it. Like, who cares? Like a charity blow job.

A word, it's like a charity dick in your mouth. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, obviously it wasn't like a full blow job because at the end of the day, we had a million people waiting outside the bathroom and everybody's seen us go in there. So it lasts for a second. Now we're just like, okay. Like my dick stayed hard. So I was like, all right, cool.

Obviously, it's okay. And, you know, that was it. We left. So going forward every now and again, I would, you know, so now I'm starting to think in my head like, oh, maybe I like this, whatever. So it was just him, though. So for the next couple months while I was working there, we actually moved clubs, both of us. He actually became a dancer from a shower boy, and we had to end up going to another club. And every once in a while, you know, while at work, we would, like, you know, mess around.

Because I was a relationship with a girl who was just, like, one of those people who were so possessive that, like, when I wasn't at work during the day or stripping, like, she was, like up my ass 24-7. Like, I couldn't cheat it if I wanted to. Right. Well, you were cheating at the club. I was. Yes. Technically, I was cheating. So that was it.

But when you say that you guys would hook up in that time whenever you had a chance at the club, what was it? Just him blowing you? Or did you ever blow him? I blew him one time because I wanted to try it. It was once. And I was just like, all right, this is not terrible. But it's not something that, like, you know, I would strive for. Like, you know what the blow jobs from him?

Did they start to get good? And did you ever come from them? Like, I know that the first one was like for one second. but over this time while you guys started to pull around again, did you get, like, did you have an orgasm? Maybe one time. I don't come from low jobs, like, very often. Like, and that's the thing when people say, oh, you know, men can bet a blowjobs to stand up their men's bullshit. Like, if you can't suck a dick, you can't suck a dick.

It doesn't matter the sex you are. Like, guys suck and some female suck. And then some people that are really good at it. Like, I like to eat personally. So, like, you know, people tell me that I'm good at it because I enjoy it. I think that people that enjoy suck a dick are the ones that. tend to be really good at it. Right. Male and female.

Exactly. Now, he was, he's a, he's a top also. So, you know, and I'm a top. So to him, I think he was just sucking it just to have some sort of sexual encounter with me, because at the end of the day, like, you know, he wanted me bad. So I guess he was going to take me anyway that he'd get me sexually. So, you know, so he would just suck my dick. So I think I might have came one time, once, if any. So after we left the club, that was it for me for like maybe four or five years until I met through another guy. After that, you know, I was doing the whole, you know, family thing. And I was just like I said, I couldn't, I stopped stripping. So I just went back to my day to my career.

And, you know, after, you know, after I go home to, you know, just the straight family man shit. You know what I mean? So my next time was, um, I had went to my friend's wedding in Vegas. He was in Vegas. And I went to his wedding. And which was a crazy, it was a crazy week on the South. This is about so.

How old are you now? I'm 31. Right. Okay. So maybe like you're like 24, right? Or 25? Because you were like, you were in last 22? I'm trying to think it's like my best friend.

So he got married. I was 20. I think I was 26. Okay. So you're in Vegas. So I'm in Vegas, and I was there for a week. You know, we did the bachelor's at a party. The first day I got there Saturday, and then they were getting married to the following Saturday.

So the first night there, it's actually a pretty great story. Now, the stigma is a lot of people, like, you know, you get like the whole, you know, how black guys are kind of like, I don't want to say taboo. Like, you know, you've had calls on the show where, you know, you got a white couple. Okay, I want my way to fuck a black guy. You know, there's a lot of girls out there that, you know, will save it not into black guys. Now, the bride, we get along really well. My, you know, her husband, me and him, been friends in first grade.

Right. So. And they're white or black? They're white. Okay. So they, you know, we've, me and him, known each other since we were six years old. So, you know, we grew up together, you know, we even lost our opportunity to the same around the same day, one after each other.

Oh, my God. Like, we were like, no orders. Like, you know what I mean? That was like my best friend. He ended up moving to Vegas when we were, like, 16. So I get there and, you know, we're all really close. We're all really cool. So she had a friend, this girl, she was Spanish.

And no, I wasn't really at the time with the same girl. She was actually supposed to be, you know how females hold grudges. She was supposed to be the maid of honor. I was the best man, my girlfriend at the time. Her and his wife got into like a little argument. I was something really stupid. So she doesn't end up coming. with me to Vegas.

I went alone. They're so different than boys, guys. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, we don't hold drugs. It's like, fuck it. Let it roll out of it, you know, sweep it on the rug afterwards.

You could fuck your friend's wife and you still stay friends. I mean, girls. You can't even look at their ex-boyfriend from 10 years ago without them getting married. Exactly. Yeah. So it was supposed to be like a family trip. It was my, you know, my daughter, her and me, you know, she was a flower girl.

So I ended up going alone. Right. She's like, you know, the whole bullshit. Yeah. Which was a bad idea on her part. Um, so, uh, we were to go that at this time for a while, you know what I mean, probably about eight years at this time. So anyways, when I get to Vegas, um, um, she's like, they pick me up me up and she's like, you know, she always knew I thought her friend Cindy was hot. We just

had to, you know, yeah, the Spanish girl. And she's like, oh, uh, Rob, you know, I tried, whatever, da, da, da, because she obviously now hated my girlfriend. So she was going to, you know, kind of be spiteful. Let me hook her, hook him up with the new native honor. Oh, so anyways. Oh, revengeful girl. Yeah. So she said, but she said she wasn't into black guys. So I'm just like, all right, whatever.

I don't care. I don't get a shit. Like I'm in Vegas. Like I said, like, I think I'm good looking. So at the end of the day, if I want to get a lead, I need a lead. It doesn't really imagine. I'm doing it. It's whatever.

So literally the first day I'm there, I'm getting ready to go run errands after a freaking seven, like six hours flight, like I was so jet lag. You know, the three hours, the three hours behind. us. It was just a nightmare. We had to party all night. So I was just, I had taken a shower. Yeah. Now, I got out to shower and I seen, like, as I walked out, you know, the guest bathroom is obviously not attached to a bedroom. So I had to walk out of the bathroom to go in my bedroom and change. Now, I came out of the bathroom in the towel. And I did it on purpose, I think, kind of instead of getting, I could easily go undress in the bathroom. But again, it's bigger, soon, it's hot, whatever. So I seen her. She was like in like a little loft area and I walked out. And I seen her. She looked me up and down, whatever.

So I went and got dressed and me, him and his hair. wife and went for a ride and it's funny so we get in the car and she's like oh you know it's funny her cindy called didge on you that was her name the spanish girl said she got didge on you and i'm just like oh i thought she didn't like black guys so whatever regardless the next day um so the first night we all went out we went separately to the strip clubs uh us guys went to a female strip club the girls went to a male strip club but then afterwards which was i don't know why people do this but we had a joint bachelor bachelor bachelor's at the nightclub at a big nightclub there so So when you're in Vegas, like you get a free limo ride to the strip, uh, to the strip clubs and you get free admission.

If you have a room on the strip. So we, we had, we all had just thrown and rented a room on the strip. Um, the girls ended up getting ready there. I know we went there first. The limo picked us up. We went to the strip club. Whatever. So, uh, so the first night, I ended up keeping one of the bedrooms at their house.

Um, the girl that was actually also stayed up the house, the one that wasn't into black guys, stayed at their room at night. This gives you like, all right, whatever. just stay on the strip instead of, you know, us all jumping in the cabin going back to the house. So the next night, you know, obviously now the next morning we get up or how long we get it could be at one of the pool parties in Vegas. So now everybody's drunk. So it was just like a shit show the whole fucking week. Yeah.

So the next day, she finally sleeping at the house. And she's like, oh, you know, she's going to sleep on the couch and love. I'm like, hey, you know what? Like, you can have the bedroom. You know, a gentleman, I'll sleep on the couch. She said we can share the bed. And I'm just like, okay, whatever. I already know what that means. They're not an idiot.

So at the end of the day, we ended up going to bed at the same time. So we ended up, we obviously ended up fucking. So we fucked, whatever. The next woman now, there was a bunch of staying in the house. They have a relatively big house. So they had, you know, a lot of the wedding guests were there, like his parents were, well, his dad was there. Her cousin, who's gay also was staying in the house. A guy. There's a guy, yeah.

So in the morning, me and her, we had. sex again when I woke up and he's just one of those people like he's just one of those outgoing people so he like said a knock on the door he opens a door you know we're in in the middle of having sex I don't really comes in he's like oh you know know what the food's ready whatever whatever the hell he was saying and you know what I mean obviously she's embarrassed I don't give a fuck that was a stripper so to me it's nothing so it was whatever so we went out to see whatever so that day we went out again in that night So her cousin that first night stayed at the house, the night, you know, in the morning we woke up.

He ended up getting a room on the strip, so you know what I mean? We would be closer to some of the clubs because we're going out all week, having fun. So he just rented a room at the MGM. So we're all on the strip or having fun, whatever, we're sitting there, we're drunk. A couple of them were like, you know, Vegas, a couple of other people. They're doing cold. Everybody's having a good time. Whatever.

So, which I just, I don't even know. So we're just sitting there and I guess, you know, like I said, he's out going. He doesn't give a fuck. And he's just like, just like, oh, let me suck your dick. And I'm just like, well, I'm just like, no, I'm all set, rich, whatever. So again, like, you guys are very persistent. I'll tell you that right now. If they want you to do.

Yeah, that's why when you said no guys like to take you in the back room, I guess because they're actually spending money, I was surprised that you hadn't met anybody that, like, wanted to convert you because you were like the heart to get one or, you know, because they all want to be the person to change your mind. You don't know what I mean? No, I've had people. You did. Okay. Yeah.

No, I was the challenge. You know what I mean? Yeah. Every gay guy's fantasy is to get a straight guy. Exactly. So that's why I think I was like, oh, I'm surprised a lot of guys didn't choose you to go in the back room because they all probably wanted to be the one. So this guy knows you're straight, right?

Yeah, he starts asking you like, hey, can I suck your dick? Can you say no? He's like he knows my girlfriend, whatever. this down the only thing. But, you know, to me, my own life, I come off as, you know, like, I'm not like, you know, I'm, I guess I'm, you know, I go to the gym every day. I'm not like martial or girl, but, you know, I can fix my own car. I can do everything I do, but at the same time, you know, I work in an environment when I get a manicure and I get a pedicure. You know what I mean?

Like, yeah, I take care of myself. You know what I mean? So a lot of guys, like, kind of, like, you know, misconstruited as in women, misconstruited as in women, misconstrued as. I don't want. You might be a little gay, whatever. Because you take care of yourself, right? Because gay men do. I mean, they do better than straight guys.

They're so much better looking. Yeah, better bodies, better dressing, better everything. And that's the thing. Like, even better underwear. Like, I can't even remember if I never really remember the last time I wore a packaged underwear. You know what I mean? So it's, like I said, I take care of myself. So at the end of the day, people always, you know, guys have always tried and whatever.

So he's trying for you. Yeah, he's trying. So I would, as the night went on, I go. drunk and I'm just like, you know what, fuck it, Rich, right? You know, we can go inside and you can suck my dick. Cool. So, no, he's like one of those people. Now, she just found out he was gay. I told her when I first met,

I told her when I first met him years before, I'm like, he's gay. You know what I mean? He's like, no, he likes girls, da-da-da-da-da-da-and. He has thumb-rings. No straight guy with thumb-rings. Like, that's just how it goes. And I just knew. So whatever, he finally came out to her. So that night, we went up to his hotel room because we were on the strip. And now he sucked my dick. Now, this day.

Now this day I know I came because I remember. I thought old gay guy swallowed. I just thought old guy swallowed. I just thought that's just, you know, the stigma behind it. So like when I came, I didn't tell him. I just came as well. And he practically almost threw up. And he was like, like, you're fucking disgusted. Why the fuck you come in my mother?

I didn't know. Like, you're begging me to suck my dick. Like, what's the sense of sucking dick if you're not going to swallow? Like, I don't get it. Yeah. It's so funny. Like, it's just like you're doing, you should be doing it for a reason. So it was whatever.

So that's cool. So, you know, it was in the middle of the week. Because you're younger than people my age, right? Did everybody know that you guys hooked up? Or did you guys do that on the down low? We went up to the room. It was on the down low. So he wanted to go change his shirt.

But were you like, don't fucking tell your cousin. Like, I don't want anyone to know. Yeah, I didn't want her to know. Like, you know what I mean? Even though I'm sure she had an idea. But he told her, of course he did. Oh, he did. Okay.

So your friends know. yeah they know he knows and she so at the end of the day she uh she had came to me one day she's like oh you know how was the other night and I'm like what you talk about yeah it's like oh you know you know mean rich even close since we're a little he obviously told me I'm like that motherfucker

Is that all you did you just sucked his He just sucked you did? Just sucked as again another another top you know I always knew that you know like I like to get my ass and you can touch the outside but like when something goes in it like that's the thing I've tried it

because I wanted to see what all the crazes about like why people love it so much, but it's just really just not for me. Yeah, it's just like, like, I'm a really like kind of a clean person and it makes you have a weird feeling in your stomach that I don't like. So the whole time I'm concentrating on that and then enjoying it and I'm tense and it's just not for me. You're not about it. Yeah.

No, it's just, I just feel emasculated. Like that's the thing and that's one of the biggest things. So I think about it too much. So we just did that. That's all we did was, you know, he gave me a blowjob. And because, again, he's a top, like a strict top also. And there's some guys out there that will bottom where I'm from that old that's around his bottom. So I guess, you know, it's fine for me.

Like, I don't care. So I ended up after that, you know, that was it. I still continued to sleep with the girl for the rest of the week. But at him, that was it. Yeah. That was done. So the next time was I ended up going back home to the East Coast. And I ended up playing a move to, now before this, as she mentioned, I lived out there at one point.

Like, that's how close friends were out. Like, I followed him. Like, when I was 20, I moved out there, then I moved back home. And then I lived there three separate times and I kept going back and forth. So a couple years after that, I ended up going back. Now, again, this was a time where I did nothing. Another one where you're just getting free blow jobs from all these gay guys? No, I didn't touch any guys at this point.

I just went home, you know, stood with the same girl. Okay. It was, you know what I mean? Like I couldn't get away to even if I wanted to. Okay. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I'll get blowouts from like girls at work, whatever. Girls at work, one girl at work.

I don't want to make it seem like, you know, at work I get all these blowouts. It was just one girl who, whatever. So my next experience with men was when I moved back out to Vegas, the first, the next time I moved out there, my girl in my kids stayed back. I went and, you know, I set up the place to live. You know what I mean? And I had to stop, you know, I transferred my job. And I wanted to get everything up and going before I uprooted, you know, everybody and moved them.

Uh-huh. So I was there alone for four months. So now this is where I think that I, you know, fully went full, heteroflexible. Um, I was, you know, I was bored one night. I was lonely, not lonely, but, you know, I was just chilling alone. And I remember I was watching the computer on Netflix or something. And I discovered Grindrinder, you know, from a movie. I know, you know, supposed to at the time, there was also Craigslist.

And, you know, I was doing ads on Craigslist for like male, female couple, you know, by threesome because to me, that's what the next step for me. You know what I mean? Like, it made me feel okay because there was a female still there, and, you know, and then there's a guy. So best of both worlds. Yeah. And it's hard. Like, Craigslist was hard in Vegas because there's so many people, and there's a lot of flakes, there's a lot of feats. And you know what I mean? And it's, it was hard. So I ended up having one, like, you know, threesome by threesome with a couple.

They were there visiting because it seemed like like that four months I was there. Like even going on Craigslist, everybody's post was like for the male, female couples. Like, you know, where I live, if you were a male female for a male on Craigslist, they're like nobody. Yeah. But like in Vegas, everybody goes there to let loose. I always say if you can't get late in Vegas, you might as well give up on life. Right, right. It's set up for everybody to get late.

Whether, no matter what you like, whether you like trannies, like you like, whether you like girls, guys, whatever. There's something for everybody in Vegas. So I was there and then I, like I said, I had that one-reesome during the time that I was there. And then I ended up exploring Grindr. Right. So I'm just like, all right, cool. This is cool, whatever. So, you know, I was meeting guys.

And at this point, like, the farthest I went was like 69 with a guy that was it. like um you both blew so you're you blew him he blew you yeah at the same time um it was just one of the things like i just felt really weird just like all right let me just come over and suck you i just felt like weird so like for me to suck dick i would have to get my dick suck at the same time at this point you know it's weird but it's whatever so um i did that a few time but a few hookups you know and i end up meeting like this kid that you know we just it was just easier you know what i mean he was good looking up to my standards you know i have like a strict standard so like he met that standard.

So it was just like, cool. Like this is easier. Like, so when I'm feeling, you know, whatever, I would just do it. And I just felt like, and I know it's weird, I felt like it wasn't cheating because it wasn't with a female. So, you know, the only time I cheated. Quiet, right? You didn't never told anyone about this. No, nobody knew about it.

Nobody knew. No, nobody. Nobody knew up until now. I think one was the first thing. Really good. And told people about it. Yeah. Like around now, like within the last, you know, me.

and my girlfriend we broke up maybe two years ago and that's when it kind of came to the service. Now I don't give it shit. Right. Okay. So, you know, that lasted, you know, they came, my family came four months afterwards and that was it, you know. So, you know, we stayed in Vegas for a while. Then we ended up moving back to the East Coast where we've been since.

But, you know, so now, fast forward until now, like I said, it was almost impossible to do anything because she was always, you know, and my first. phone, you know, you know, checking my find my iPhone, my location, my this, my that, like, she didn't trust me at all. And, you know, she had cheated and, you know, and that was the thing. She's the same girl that let you go to Vegas? She had no choice. She knew that I was never, you know, like, that's my best friend. Like, I told her, and I was an asshole, but like he was here before you and chances are, you know, if there's an after you, he'll be there. You know what I mean? So, I'm not missing his wedding because you can't get a moment. You can't get over something, Patty.

Yeah. Of course. No, no, no. I'm just surprised that she did. Yeah. Yeah. put her fight aside and come with you and just like not go to the festivities and just at least keep you under lock and key in Vegas. Yes. And that was, you know what I mean? And I told her, the thing is, she kind of wanted to do that, but I told her I wasn't going to pay for that. You know, so now before I left, I had this board a brand new living room set.

It was cool. It wasn't leather. And I had like an open concept living room to kitchen. Yeah. So my first night there, you know, she had was cool on me. Now, I'm in a nightclub in Vegas called L-A-X at the time. Okay. Now, there's no way in hell that you're going to be able to answer a phone call in there. Yeah.

So she's calling me, blown me up, but she knew her at the bachelor, bachelor party. So, like, and like, I don't know if you ever been to Vegas, but to get out of a club, you know what I mean? And to get to a, like, an area where it's quiet at a casino. Yeah. It was like a 15-minute walk. And I'm texting her the whole time. Like, I can't hear you. I can't answer the phone.

Yeah. So literally, and I'm not even joking. She's like, oh, like, so by the time I get to the bathroom, I'm on the phone with her. It was like 15 minutes, okay? It was a walk to get somewhere quiet. It's the only place I could go that was quiet. Because, you know, in the hallways of the casino, you got people drunk and playing music, it's too loud.

Oh, I hate you, da, da, da, da, da, da. I hope on your way home, your plane crashes. I know you're cheating. I'm just like, I'm like, just relax, first of all. Second of all, like, it's whatever. So, you know, she's like, I don't want to be with you anymore. You know, have fun. I'm going to go to me.

And I'm just like, right, whatever. You know what? Like, you're just, I think she was drinking at the, like, that day. you know, just acting crazy. So I was just like, whatever. You know, I wasn't going to let her ruin my time. I'm not the type of person I am. Like, at the end of the day, like, it's my best friend getting married.

Like, yeah, whatever. I'm the best man. Like, I'm like, pretty much the host. I can't let that affect me. Like, so I'm just like, whatever. Like, you know what I mean? But get to the point because I want to make sure we get to the other guy stuff. I came home.

And she had, so I'm laying on my couch when I got home from the flight. and I'm like smelling like french fries and she's like that smell. Come to find out that night she was cooking and she was frying something in oil and ended up taking the whole pan and throwing it across my living room running my brand new couch

because you can't get grease out of a couch. It was like I'm like, what does that smell? She's like, oh quiet and so I threw a pan of oil. I'm like, what? Oh my gosh. Crazy bitch. Oh, absolutely not. I'm thank God that was that

that's past me. Right. So fast forward, like, to, you know, the whole guy thing. So we are on the verge of being over. So this is about two years ago. So, you know, like, we were to tell people over the 12 years, like, even if we argued, we always slept in the same bed, we always figured out. Like, even though, like, I think deep down we both knew that we shouldn't have been together, but we stayed together because we had kids. And, you know, and I was trying to keep together that whole family dynamic.

And, you know, I'm kind of old school in the way that I am for, in some senses. So one day, this is towards the end, I knew it was over. I think we had even been broken up. So now she never knew I did anything with it on, but she always just to ask me. Like, are you vile? Are you gay? Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, and my sister's like a bitch at the end of the day. So my sister used to always tell her, you know, I used to, when I worked at the strip club,

he was going to leave you for a guy. You watched this, that, and it's earth thing. I was like, I'm like, whatever. My sister's just like one of those people. Like, she just has no filter. She cares about nothing you think. like she's just one of those people like a bit so um she would always ask me like oh what you get like like two stupid stuff like that and i never you know she never pegged me or you know she would like

you know lick my ass and things like that like because i liked it but like nothing more than that no anal plikes yeah so i don't know if it's within the background line so i'm laying in the bed and um you know i have an iphone and you know as a fingerprint so i guess i dozed off now at this time towards the end. Oh, no. She took your finger. So she said that I left my phone unlocked. Like my, I fell asleep with my phone in my hand on the home button.

I'm like, yeah, okay. Like, I had my phone at the time because I knew like we were kind of over. We were just still living together, which we did for a while. She still lived with me after we broke up. Like another thing that millennials do, which is fucking absolutely nuts. Like when you have kids together, like you break up, people are still, you know, things are expensive. So I guess you end up staying together.

But wait a-exam. She busts into your phone. What does she say? So at the time, you know, like I said, I was, I was again using Grindr, like this is like towards the end of the road. If I just wanted to explore that side, I really wanted to get into it. Yeah. So she's like, like, you know what I mean when I woke up, she had like an attitude. And I'm just like, what the hell is your problem?

Even though I didn't care because I knew it was over already. Yeah. So did she. She's like, oh, I said, you know, a guy sent you a dick picture and you sent one back. Why? And I'm just like, why are you? even in my phone. Yeah, like, what do you even in my phone for? Because it's like, well, your son's sleep would have been open and then the text popped up. And, you know, I was just, I was sitting next to you

and I just add no, you know, I looked over and I seen. I'm like, no, you know, you didn't, but whatever. I'm like, what cares? Like, it's really, it's over between us. So, da, da, da, da, so. So she starts going on. Oh, you know what I mean? Like, you're like, man, this whole time, like, was it a whole lie? Like, was it a whole lie? I'm like, first of all, if I would give anybody credit that could put up with you for 12 years and lie about it. And lie about liking and I'm the type of person at the end of the day I'm going to give it to you straight no matter what it is I rather

But the truth is though Okay you were never given it straight to her Because he sucked a dick People sucked your dick You cheated on her with the Spanish girl You were never straight up on us with her I you know she never But you know

But she did cheat So at the end of the day she did she And that's what ultimately ever did really shit And you know And she did it on a whole other like Cureless level Like with me to this day She's never known about

any of the other things that I did. But you did do it, though. I did do it. I did say that you're any better. Like, you could just say she's sloppier because she got caught, but it's not like. She is sloppier. You didn't cheat on her too. You fuck that girl.

You fooled around with a bunch of guys. I mean, come on. You were looking for grinder people. Come on. Yes. So, yeah, at the end of the day, granted, yes, I did, I guess. You cheated on her? But anyway, it was over.

Yeah, it was done. You know what I mean? so she was just, you know, kind of upset. Like, was this like this whole time? Did you think about this? And I'm just like, no. It's like, I thought, you know, and I gave it to her at the end of the day. Like, I'd rather hurt you with the truth than comfort you with a lie because at the end of the day, like, I'm just not going to.

I told her straight that you had. I told us straight. Yeah, I was like, I was attracted to guys, you know, to a point, but not sat shat Julianne. I says now, like, I want to explore. I don't know. Like, I was going through a lot at the time, you know what I mean? My mom was, you know what I mean?

She passed away from cancer. So I was, you know what I mean? I have a bunch of kids, you know what I mean? Like, and then it just, everything was just falling apart. You know what I mean? Like, so like my life would just come on down around me. So I was just looking at all just searching for myself. You know what I mean?

And that's really what I did. Like, I was worth her through my 20s in my teens. You know what I mean? So like, I was ready to see what I missed in my 20s and just like really find out who I was. You know what I mean? So, and just be open-minded. So, you know, and it was crazy. So after I left her, that's when it all.

opened up. So now at the end of the day, like, you know, and I can't even say I sleep up more than one than the other. You know what I mean? I've had countless hookups with guys. You know what I mean? Like it's to the point in maybe two years ago was the first time I've actually had, you know, had sex with a guy. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah. Were you at top, meaning you were the top? Yeah. And then when did you do the bottom thing? When you were with her or behind her back or recently? No, I was, I wasn't met her. I was actually traveling for work. I was like in New Jersey.

There was like this guy was like a kind of a hookup thing. And not kind of hookup thing. It was Grindr. And he's like, oh, I'll just try it. This is whatever. And I'm just like, all right. You know what? Whatever.

I'll try it. Like, I'll try anything once. You know what I mean? Yeah. Unless it's not, like, unless it's extreme like really real stuff like, you know, scatter or anything like that, I'm good. Like blow it. Yeah, yeah, of course.

But all these other things, you're like, why not? Anything else. Yeah. No, I just, it just, like I said, like I just didn't feel clean. Like, it just felt my stomach just felt like it felt like I was going to the bathroom the whole time. Right. So that's what I'm focusing on, like trying to, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's embarrassing, I think.

Like, it's happened. It's an occupational hazard. Right. And like, I'll tell you what, like any guy that's happened with, that was it for me. Like, I'm just never again. Oh, and you've been topping them and that happened. Yeah, never again. But how great was it the first time you had your first.

experience having sex with a guy where you were the top. He blocked me because it was and I'm not even, I kid you not, like, you know, we did the whole four play thing and I calmed and I'm not even joking. Maybe it was less than a minute.

Right. And I was so embarrassed, but like, you know what I mean? Like it was my thirst experience. Yeah. I was really worried. Like, you know, the whole four playing role. So it wasn't really like, you know what I mean?

Like it was my fall obviously. And that's not how I am. You know what I mean? Now, like, they're begging me to hurry up and go because, you know, there's so much some people can take. Yeah. But it was embarrassing. You know what I mean? And, like, it was exhilarating.

And that's why, like, in my brain when all these guys say, hey, you know, I'm by and they've been with one guy in one time or I think that I like men, but I never tried it. Like, that's so easily accessible. Like, I could log in right now, okay? Yeah. And hook up within maybe 10 minutes from now. Not even. I'm sure. Like, I would find, I could find something like that.

Yeah. But you have to understand. Think about your life. Like you, you really were like tipping your dipping, not tipping, dipping, dipping, dipping your foot in the water for a long time there while you were doing that whole strip club thing, right? That was like an easy entry into having the balls to like go and actually meet a guy and hook up with one. I mean, you had that stripper. Like I think it was a, for you, it happened easily and more gradually, whereas I think a lot of other guys. You know, they live in their regular world and maybe they have these fantasies about being with another guy. But to actually go on Grindr and then go to a hotel room and hook up with them, like, that's a big jump for them.

Whereas for you, you didn't make that step. You did a lot of gradual things in between. In between. Yeah. And you're like the strip club thing really lent itself to making you more comfortable in that environment really knowing gay men. You know, so I think it's hard for you to understand. Say to somebody else, oh, they should just do it or whatever. You know, because I think it is so hard for some people.

For other people, like, yes, the accessibility, it's there, and it's very easy nowadays, like you said. 20 years ago, you'd have to do an ad. You don't know who the fuck they are, if they're setting the right pictures, you know. But I still think it's, for some people, it's hard to make that jump if they've never been with a guy. But now that you've been with men and women, like, you know for sure you'd never be romantic with a man, right? Do you have a girlfriend now? I know, I don't. I'm not ready for, like, I am at this point, like, emotionally unavailable.

Like, I've been messing with this one girl, probably since I broke up with my ex. You know, she lives a couple of streets over for me. Like, it's great. Like, she's, like, when I tell you, like, and this is another thing, the whole squirting thing, like, my ex, we gradually got into it. And it's another thing I want to tell you about the whole squirting thing because I listen to the squirting episode that, you know, the guy and girl would save their marriage. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Squirting. I'm like I met with this girl

which it's actually ironic she also was a dancer is a dancer and her she can square over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again so the so we've been messing around for almost going on two years now so but like I have no emotional attachment

like the sex is out of this fucking world she one of the things she's one of the few well not few people she's one of the people that doesn't know that I mess with guys because I have a feeling with her personality. A lot of women think that, as soon as you mess with a guy, you're gay, that's it. Like, you don't like women anymore,

and that's it, you're done. And a lot of gay guys think that being able to do both is not possible. They're like, oh, well, you just got that fucking me in the ass. So how could you possibly, like, you know, pussy still? Yeah. And a lot of people don't get it. But anyways, the whole squirting thing, it's the comfortability.

That's what it is. With my ex, I used to, always tell her, like, you know what I mean? After she would come, like she was, uh, she was a clitoral squirt. So she squirted from the clip, like, you know, stimulation of the clip. Yeah. Um, so I would be like, you know, whatever. She didn't even need her G spot to be sort of rubbed or anything.

She would just come. She would, whenever she came, she would have an, uh, she would squirt. So if you're, so what she would have to do was active before. She's like, it feels like I got to pee. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So she would hold back for the first eight years. of our relationship. Uh-huh. And then one day I'm just like, listen, just relax. Because she would like, like, if I kept going, right, after she came, she would try to get away from me because the sensation was so. It's too much. Yeah.

Uh-huh. And then one day I, like, just, you know, kind of held on with all my night. And I just told her relaxed. And she did. And she ended up squirting. And every day from that, I was able to get her to squirt. Like, you know what I mean? But she could also do it from the inside, like, you know, like, and all the guys are,

it's a two-finger hook. It's two fingers, stick them in, hook them up. And you kind of, and you kind of, you kind of, Kind of just going to go in an up and down motion. It's not like in and out. It's just like, you got them hooked and you're like lift them up. Yeah. But this girl is also clitoro, you know what I mean?

Like you're having sex. You're in the middle. Yeah. You pull it out. And you just spin like to click really fast. And she'll figure it over and over and over again. And she's multi-rogats like from Z spot clitoris, everything. And my thing is, I think most women can do it.

It's just the level of comfort. Like I don't think that, you know, unless the girl's like really open, I can't go meet a girl from one night's day and today and have her script because she's not comfortable with me she's not going to really relax. Let me tell you, I have had long-term booty calls. I have always felt very comfortable with most guys that I'm sleeping with sexually and I tend to stay with the same person because I actually like, like to me, sex gets better when you feel comfortable and you could communicate with someone, tell them what you like and you could do fucking anything with them, right? And I have, I've had a lot of guys I felt very comfortable with and I've been dying to score and

never have been able to. So I don't know if it's just totally. that. I think it's a little bit more maybe. I don't know. Maybe it's that like, because like I'll always pull away after I come. I can't take the, I can't go right into another one. It's just too sensitive. Maybe it would take somebody doing like what you said. That's why I was like interesting when you said that. Like maybe that's what I have to just power through that uncomfortable thing and maybe right after that I can. I don't know. It was like immediately right after that like, you know, it was uncomfortable. But she always felt that she had to pee. I've never felt when I'm having orgasms. I've never felt that I have to pee. So, you know, I don't know, but I hold hope because, like, I have heard that women, like that one woman, because I had his wife on after, right? It was like I first had the husband and then I had her on and she had never squirted it. She was like someone that couldn't even have orgasms, right? So I think, like you could always change, who knows, right? But you don't

like this girl. She doesn't know that you hook up, right? The squirder girl. Like you just like her sexually, right? But she doesn't know that you're with guys. Do you have a guy that you're fooling around with like on the i just started with the one really um and the thing is is like he's super clean you know what it's like cool and the thing is with him he's like i can tell he's starting to get to that point where it's just like all right like i like this guy you know what i mean that's what he's getting with me and i don't want to be you know what i mean like you don't want to date him yeah and you think he's popping feeling you know what i mean like i think so like we were together a lot yesterday

and it was just like you know that look people give you their and sex you know what I mean like that look like you can just they're just like looking inside of you and I'm just like fuck like what am I doing to this people and it's happened to the girl the squirder the same thing

like we've been together countless times we kissed one time and I was drunk the night I kissed her and she got so upset the next day she was really mad she was just like oh you're like you're like mind fucking me the thing like the way you kiss to you I'm just like

like I don't get it like kissing what else and that's another thing like kissing without sex like sex about kissing to me is like boring like you really want to get me done like I'm but you say you have great sex with her and you've never kissed her but I'm talking like it goes even like I'll give you everything if like we're kissing

it's just different you know what I mean like I get more into it but you know the great part of the sex where her is you know what I mean like she can take a lot you just said you have like the best sex with her and you don't kiss her but then you just said to me like, oh, you have to, like, sex without kissing is boring. But sex with her is amazing. Sex with her is amazing.

What I'm saying is, let me rephrase that. So if we were to kiss during sex, it would be even more amazing. Let me refrake like that because the sex is good. But you have to feel romantic with someone to kiss them. Is that what it is? No, I don't. I think she does. I think that's what it is.

Because all my other hookups, we kiss. You know what I mean? Like, that's just what it is. Like, you know, I have another friend that me and her mess around. And it's crazy because a lot of people like, oh, like, you're like you know me and whore but at the end of the day like I think in 2020 the word whore doesn't even exist anymore like with social media in the assets of people like there's no way that the days of people have an eight or nine sexual partners both these are out the fucking window

like marriage is dead like relationships don't tend to last very long like there's no way you're more open about things yeah for sure like you like you know like did you kiss him yeah I do and he's giving you the googly eyes. like he's into you. Yes. Yeah. And you're not at all. But maybe you're not,

but you're not open to that girl either, right? You said you're not emotionally available for anybody, right? No, for nobody. So you think that, you know, you're not emotionally available. Listen, you've been in relationships, your whole fucking life practically, right? And now you finally come into your own.

You went through that really bad time. You're being single. You're having fun. It's been two years, right? And I could get why you would be emotionally available. You were always tied to people. emotionally for so long. But I wonder, like five years from now or however long it takes you to get done with being single and maybe you'd be open to somebody else, like whether you'd be, is there a

chance, do you think if you had to give it a percentage? Is it a zero percent chance that you'd ever maybe feel like you could date a guy? Or do you think there's a slight chance maybe in a couple of years from now that that could happen? So my next relationship, under certain circumstances, is they like I could in it might sound crazy it might sound unrealistic but like the whole thruple idea I could do that I could do that what is that? What is that? What is that?

What is that? So, you know, three people in a relationship so that's another thing like you know what I guess it's like polyamorous right? I guess. Okay is that how it is? Three people and a couple yeah okay. Okay. So I'm like I could have a guy like

I always have to have a woman because I really enjoy, like I said, I like enjoy you. And I enjoy you. Posey, like, I enjoy female. So, and I also enjoy having sex with men. So at the end of the day, like, the only way I could be with a guy is if I also had a girl. So it's, I know it sounds might sound crazy, whatever. But do you think you would be

romantic with him? If the girl was there or no? I think that we like, like, I don't know, maybe. I just like, I try to picture it. Like, my mom was a lesbian. She had kids and then she became a lesbian. Full-home never. Like, like, I don't know. men again. Like that was, you know what I mean? Like, so it's possible because, you know, she was with

my dad for 20 years and then went to women. You know what I mean? Like I was with my kids, mother for 12 years, had kids and who knows? Yeah. But like, I love women to the point where I just can't be without them. So I do know that my next relationship, regardless of who it is and what it is, like, what type it is, it has to be open. I'm not, I think monogamy is that I, like that standard person that I am, I don't think that anybody's going to be able to be faithful. like I don't think for the next 40 years somebody's going to want to stay in their relationship just have my dick for the rest of their life

maybe they do I feel sorry for them because I can't do that like I've got so much fun over the past two years yeah no but listen I think that there are some people that are monogamous by nature but I don't think that that's the majority of people right no I think it's a 30% I think is at this point but some people

can be for sure but you are not capable of it not interested in it and that's okay and as long as you're honest about that with people like I had a girl I just aired and she calls herself an ethical slut. And what that means is that she's straight up about the fact that she doesn't want to just be with one person. And she has open, you know, she's quote unquote open relationship with her guy so she could see other people. But she's not going in acting like, you know, one person.

Yeah. And then living this secret life, which I think is the way it should be for sure. And that's the way you are going to should be. Yeah, because at the end of the day it's just like, if I want like some days like I just want. no interest in men. But other days, I want to a fuck a guy. Yeah. You know what I mean? And the threesomes, and I have plenty. Like, like, you know, like,

the big thing is guys love seeing black guys stalk their wives. So I benefit from that. You know, a tremendous amount. So you get hit up by white couples a lot is what you're saying. Like, there's an app called three fun. It's a three for that. You know, it's kind of like a Tinder thing,

you know what I mean, to that nature. And it's couples or single guys looking for you know, the guys looking for couples, couples of single guys and I do well on it um and a lot of people are getting younger and younger like uh you know uh you know we have moves like where i am at like you know what the glory holes and everything that was funny i was looking to the thing with the guy you aired the last one he aired i well i got around friday with the adult bookstores you know i've experienced that that's it's a whole other experience like that's that shit's crazy like i that's dirty stuff right

that goes down it's disgusting like you walk down there it smells like bleach it's disgusting. Well, I just mean also dirty as in like perverted, right? Oh, fun. Yeah. It's good time though. Like I've gone down there and there's there's guys that bring their girls there and they just want them to suck as many things as possible. Right. Right. You know what I mean? And usually bigger women. It's usually bigger women. You know, I've seen a girl like a good looking girl, but she was with an older guy. And the window he's talking about, it's like where I'm at called Buddy Glass. So if you're using the booth, both from opaque to like transparent.

you have to like you press a button and if the other person accepts you can see into their booth and underneath the window obviously there's a glory hole and the things that go on in there like we have an adult theater down the street like where I leave it

just like it's you know we have swingers clubs like you know things like that which I haven't going to yet I want to go to them but I want to go to you know I'm not far from New York City I'm like you know yeah you know three hours away from New York City

So I hear there they have a lot more, you know, swinger parties for people that are younger Because I don't like, for me to go in as a single male To the Swearings Clubs where I'm at, it's like at the end of it costs you 150 bucks. Now I don't want to go in and see like all 50-year-old couples That are out of shape just on the other thing And some people call me shallow for that

But at the end of the day like No, why should you? Yeah, you're going to be 50 and you're going to be banging 50-year-olds at some point So but now that you're young, fuck the young, hot people. Yeah, well, black don't crack. So I'm hoping like I do now at 50. Like I'm hoping. That's, you know, that's why I take care of myself because, you know what I mean.

I honestly think I get better looking at what they age. But, you know, everybody's thoughts to, you know, gravity takes us there. We have to wrap this up because my son's in the other. But wait, I used to always ask my callers like what they thought of themselves on a one to 10. And I have to say, I haven't done that in a long time. And people would always give themselves sevens. It was like, and then I had like one guy that gave himself a 12 and he was like insane. so but I know like what would you give yourself once in a time?

You've said like 10 times on the show that you're very good looking so I think you know what I mean I would say eight but I'm telling you like people would probably say 10 like I get hit on like if I post a snap right I have a lot of follows on snap like to the point where like I was like I was like a screen out of my inbox of Snapchat right now look at all I was post shirt was in the gym or I'm going to say it when I when I post your episode. I'll black out the name and I can post it as a as a as a screen as shot on my Instagram if you want yeah so you know what I mean like I'm always taking share it's like you know what I mean of your inbox yeah like what I'm saying yeah the inbox like all the messages and it's all people like it's guys and girls like they're all like just like you know I mean it's crazy so like I'm a black guy with green eyes you know what I mean so to them it's just like kind of like a thing yeah I mean and uh so I'm I would probably either say, I'll give myself me personally a seven and a half,

but they would definitely rate me high to sound crazy. All of a sudden you're being humble. I am a humble. Seven and a half is average. How about this? Okay. How about this? If they like black guys, definitely 10.

Yeah. And some people that don't like it, you know, any to those ones. Okay. But I have to wrap this up because, like, I'm going to, my son, and I have to start cooking dinner and everything. Yeah, of course. Which would call it? But wait.

So I feel like. Like we could always do a part two because you probably have so many more stories considering that you go to now in the past two years. You're letting your freak flag fly. You're going to these dull video stores. I have a Patreon page now where I do like all my, I post all my part twos and stuff like that. I mean, it's not a large audience like my podcast, right? Because people have to pay and stuff. But like let's do a part two if you want to come on again and tell some more stories and take it from that.

Nightmare stories of Grindrinder. Like, you know, people not being bad. I'll be fine. Yeah, and then I'm getting down. All right, we're going to do that. We're going to do your part two, but people will have to join my Patreon to hear it. I'll send you a link to be able to listen to it, you know, but we'll actually set up another time to talk to tape it. And we'll go, you know, we'll do more stories and we'll do a part two for you.

But, you know, I'll post this on my regular place, you know, and I'll let you know when it goes up. It'll go up sooner than later because I like the whole stripper angle. It's interesting. It was a good time. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I just have one last piece of advice for like, you know, the listeners out there. I have a feeling that your bisexual shows are probably, are they the most listened to?

I'm assuming it's like, up there, the panty holes, right? No, no, all different ones. But you know what I notice on YouTube a lot? What I see on YouTube is the cuckled, which is why kind of, you know, and there's definitely always a by aspect to that. The cuckolding is very hardcore. And I bet you you have a lot of those stories from my part, too. but what were you going to say about the bisexual tidbit? I mean, tip you're going to give.

Anybody out there, at the end of the day, like, they say you go around once regardless what you believe in. You got to have fun now. Like, like I said, it took me forever at first, like, to kind of like grasp around, like, okay, let me just go, like, you know, try with a guy. Like, if you have that feeling, just like, fucking go for it. Like, people, like, bottle it up and they hide who they are. Like, who cares?

Like, I live by now with, Anybody thinks of me is none of my business. So there could be a million comments like, this guy's an asshole, whatever, like, full of them themselves. People said things about me in my own entire life, but you've got to let it roll off, be yourself, have fun. Like, these last two years, like, have been absolutely amazing. Like, I have, like, like you said, letting my freak flag fly, just having a good time, not caring, like. But also just protect yourself. Yeah.

It's more about being who you are and not being phony and doing, like, your stuff on the download. that's why I do like to do my show because that's normally the sort of take away from most of the episodes, you know, because you do hear from a lot of guys that aren't lucky enough to have been born later like you and are still living a double life and a secret life. They have never done it and they want to. And, you know, they wish that they could be you. So hopefully they hear your story and it does help them to move out because like you said, you only live once and you might as well to fucking do it or try it.

Have fun now. Yeah. But if anybody needs a push, you can post my email in the thing and they can shoot me an email. I've done shoutouts like that. So if anyone wants a push or some help or talk to somebody who's been there, done that and wants and, you know, needs maybe to talk to you. And like, you know, I'm sure you guys will send dick pics or something. I don't know what goes on after that.

But like, send me an email. Well, could be emails too. Trying to get their husband and do it. You know, or anything. Send me an email and I'll give them your email is what you're saying. Yeah, you can give them my email. I have an email that I could give you. Okay, cool. All right. So we'll give the, I'll give them the email, or do you want to give the email right now?

I'll give it to you just so I can put it in the description because I'll, or I can give it right now. Yeah, give it right now. It's better because if I put it in a description, it gets deleted off of YouTube. I'm not allowed to put emails. Yeah. What's the email? I'll say that. Yeah. Yeah. R.S. 690R at gmail. Repeat it one more time. R S 690R at gmail.com. Okay, there you go. I'll write in the thing that, like, you know, bonus, if you want to contact him at the end, he gives his email.

So that's his email if you guys want to email. It's a lot easier for them to email you directly than going to me. I don't have time to field all those fucking emails. So if you want to email him, email him. And me and you will talk again. Thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story and, you know, getting me straight on heteroflexibility of whatever you're going. Well, now we can get a clear.

stuff. All right. I appreciate it. It was good. Awesome. Talk soon. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the

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