Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 382 - Craig is a True Cuckold and he Married the Ultimate Hotwife

Episode Date: March 29, 2021

Craig is a true cuckold and he married the ultimate hotwife. When did he first realize he was into being a cuck? How did he get his wife interested in having sex with other guys? How did she get her friend involved and how did they work it so he could listen in? Tune in for all the details which include how his first girlfriend dumped him for the school bully and how seeing them together and being mocked by others turned him on, how he got his next girlfriend to to flirt at work and eventually have sex with her boss and tell him about it, the hot stories his second wife told him and how those stories led to more, how her friend got involved and how they would hook with guys together, the famous UK athlete and his personal trainer they had sex with, why they started using a cockcage and how her friend knew about it, how long it all lasted, how and why it all eventually ended as well as where they're at and a whole lot more.  To see anonymous pics of Craig and his wife and her friend + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. I'm going to get right to the guy who I have on the show today. And his name is Craig. Now, listen, Craig, it was very easy to do this episode of Craig. Nobody in the comments below on YouTube will say that I'm cutting him off, right? They say that for other episodes because I didn't cut him off because he just told his fucking story and I just sat back and listened. It's a very relaxing, easy thing, easy day for me, right? But he called in with a really super interesting story. He's a true cuckled. Not only does he really enjoy watching his partners with other guys, he likes to,

he likes to know that those other guys are better than him. Does that make sense? I think that what we always think cuckolds are but they're all every cuckold likes different things i've had a lot of them on my show right this guy craig is into that we go in we start from the very beginning like from his first experience uh in high school that happened i think it was high school is this first thing that happened to him when he was young and he got dumped by somebody and then she went and like fuck the town bully and he was like oddly into it and it was very confusing for him right but that was the first hint to him that He was into this type of thing. And then it progressed from there.

And he gets into it. And his story is super interesting because he had a girlfriend that, like, fucked her manager and he, like, pushed that along. And he would get all the scubage on that. And he was into that. And then he had two wives. And, you know, his second wife is who we talk about a lot. Okay.

His second wife, like, really got off on, like, being with people who were with other people. like fucking married guys and guys that had girlfriends. And they spent a lot of their marriage just talking about her past stories. And he was super turned on by them until she met a friend. And when she met her friend, it was another woman. And they became 40. He called it her naughty 40s. Or they called it the naughty 40s.

Her naughty 40s with that woman was filled with a lot of fucking sex, right? And sex that she would do, she would call without him. But he was there on the phone listening while her and her friend were having sex with other guys all the time. Like he had years of this. And he gets into like the stories and they're pretty hardcore. They fuck like a famous athlete who remains nameless. He's from the UK. So I don't really know athletes there.

But it was some famous. And like their trainer. And I don't know. They had all kinds of stories. There's all kinds of stories that went down between his wife, her friend. who was another hot woman, and all the guys they fucked. And she would literally call him up on the phone, leave the phone like there so he could listen in to the whole thing.

And we talk about all that stuff, right? And then I said, you know, and then there's a moment where, or there's a time after many years that that woman, the other woman, sort of breaks things off with them because she gets in with another guy. And so they haven't done anything like that. in a while. And that's like the, I would say one third of the ending of this episode is talking about that problem, which is that here's a guy who's very into the whole cuckled thing, right? He had his

wife living out all his fantasies. Shit couldn't have been better. And then, you know, it ends. And it's been years since it's happened. He tried and failed miserably. That's a really interesting story. Okay. He went behind her back, tried to set some shit up for her. to have that kind of scenario again. And it didn't go well. You need to hear about that. And you need to hear about how he's been trying to get her back into, you know, sleeping with other guys, but it's just not working.

She's not into it anymore. She doesn't have that buddy anymore to go out and do stuff. And therein lies the problem. That's where he's at. We talk about solutions to that problem. He talks about what he wants to do, which is stray. I talk about what maybe he could do before he does that because he's a super monogamous guy. He really loves his wife.

But he is, you know, really into this and he's gone years without it. And he really, that itch is still there. And he needs it to be scratched. So therein lies the problem, right? Did I say that already? That's a common problem, I think, whether you're a cuck or not, right? A lot of people are in that situation where, you know, you've been with someone for a really long time.

You're an otherwise very monogamous person, but you've been begging your partner for sex and they won't give it to you. And what do you do after five years of begging? I don't know. You know, it's a, it's a hard question because I have had people on my show who have cheated after that. People will be like, that's fucking wrong, but like, what do you expect them to do? So we talk about that. So that's like I said, at the ending. Most of this episode is, you know, his story and the progression of his cuckolding experiences, how it started in high school, then that first girlfriend and then another wife and then that second wife who really was you know hardcore into it and then we end talking about the issue he's having now it's a fucking great episode i hope you enjoy it

now wait oh i almost forgot i did and i talk about this on the episode so you'll remember um but he had sent me picks of his wife and this girl and they're super hot okay and the reason why i looked at it is because me and him decided that we would make them anonymous and i would post those picks of his wife and this girl so you could get a visual, but they're going to be on Patreon. So you'll have to join my Patreon. I'm not going to make you pay a lot of money for it. It's if you join my $3 tier, which is chump change, three bucks a month. How much is that a year? Like nothing. You will not only get these episodes early and get a Q&A monthly, you will also see anonymous pictures of my guests or the people they're talking about. I'm starting with Craig,

right? He's the first one I'm going to do it. But trust me, I get pictures from people all the time. I never fucking look at them. But what I'm going to start doing from now on is have people ask my callers and people who are on my show if they want to send anonymous pictures, meaning heads will be cut off. This is strictly anonymous. I'm anonymous. My guests are anonymous. The people they fuck are anonymous.

Everything's anonymous. No heads will be in there. But bodies will. And I think that that says a lot. I mean, his girl and his, her friend, they're naughty 40s. But they look fucking good. And you could see them in bikinis and shit on Patreon if you want to get a visual. this episode. Join up. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast.

Sign up for the $3 tier and you'll see some picks. And if you're already a member of my $3 tier, make sure to go in and look because you're going to see picks of Craig's wife and her friend. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Craig. Craig, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Very good. Thank you very much, Kathy. Yeah, thanks for calling in because Craig, let me tell you, your fucking story is hardcore. At least for, I mean, you gave me the whole story in an email. Typically, I don't like to read these long-winded emails that people tell me because I like to kind of go in not knowing anything.

But your story was so intriguing that I kept reading. And I was like, oh, my God. And I'm going to say this, okay? It's something that I might be doing new, right? Which I had never done in the past. People have always tried to send me pictures. I never look because I feel like people, me not knowing what people look like helps me to, remained very unbiased and non-judgmental.

It's like the best thing for me, right? And so, and I've never put other people out there because people like to remain anonymous. But I was thinking, because you sent me some pictures, I was like, I wonder if like, you know, if I cut those heads out of them or, you know, take their faces out because you sent me pictures of all the players in this story, right? And just I could put those pictures now up on my Patreon, so only special people get to see them. We'll talk about that later. So if Craig... Yeah. Okay. No worries.

Yeah. Craig agrees. I take out their faces. All the people that you're hearing in this story, in this crazy hot story that you're going to hear, if you sign up for my Patreon, you'll be able to see the pressures, right? Good, good, yes. Okay, cool. So go there, patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. It'll be in the link below. It'll be in the description below. So let's get to it, Craig. Okay. You are a guy who had cuckling fantasies, like, since you were, like, super young, right? And then you got into a hardcore couple-coucoucoucled situation with your second wife, and then she, another woman

came around, and she's a part of the story. And that's where it gets, like, so hardcore. But let's start in the beginning, right, when you first started to realize that you had that fantasy or that fetish, if you would say. Well, yeah, it effectively started, but I went to, on a, effectively, a school trip when I was 15 years of age. I've been going out with my girlfriend for about two years. We'd started having sex when we were about 15. So, yeah, everything was going absolutely fine from my point of view. Anyway, we went on this school trip,

and she ended up dumping me on the school trip and getting with one of the older boys within the school, and which, you know, at first was very devastating until the point where I started to get us staring in the loins when seeing them out and about when we were doing the trips and everything and they would be kind of openly kissing and touching each other and everything. Yeah, it was kind of a very strange and confusing time really because, you know, you should be absolutely devastated, which I was

on an emotional level but in terms of how I was feeling on a sexual level it felt completely different it was like you know I started to get really highly turned on by the fact that you know there was this guy who was effectively with my

girl and he was a bit of the school bully as well which was added another dimension to it really and you know the thought of the fact that you know everybody on the trip knew that she dumped me and was going with him and the fact that he was more than likely going to be fucking her that night whilst everybody was kind of looking to me

going oh poor you know poor Craig yeah what they didn't what they didn't realize is that I was going back to my room and you know wanking myself silly over the thoughts of him I've been fucking it really yeah yeah so yes So it was, yeah, so it was a very confusing time because, because obviously you just think that, you know, from an emotional level, you're going to be devastated. And whilst I still was, you know, the overriding feeling was, yeah, you know, I hope it gives her a good seeing to speak. So, so, yeah, so, you know, so that was, that girlfriend, funny enough, I did actually get back with her and, um, some months later and you know every time every time we had sex all I could ever think about was was about this this other guy having sex with us so so yeah so it started very young at the age of

15 and yeah and from there it just kind of it kind of blended into all my relationships going forward really and obviously to my second wife to a much hotter degree if you understand what's saying yeah totally i know because i've heard the story already but you know everyone's going to get that story now so now let's just progress though into that so what happens after that girl like do you when do you meet your first wife and or how does it start to how do you start to bring it into all your relationships moving forward from when you're 15 yeah so so um at the age of eight I actually joined the army. So I was in nine months of training.

So I was away, effectively, three months at a time. And I would get, you know, a week's leave every three months. But whilst I was away, this is pre-cell phones. We would talk on the phone every night from a pay phone. And obviously it would get round to, you know, kind of sex chat. and all the rest of it, you know, I was 18 at the time, rampant it. And, you know, kind of, so my only kind of release was, was having sex chat with her on the phone. And she was, she just started a new job.

And she, you know, she was, you know, attractive girl. She had great tits. And, yeah, so she was getting a lot of attention as a young, you know, kind of young girl in the office. she worked for a logistics company so all the warehouse lads used to used to always be kind of trying to get a gander at her and trying to give them the old sex banter

and all the rest of her or meet you after work and all the rest of it so actually just took it in you know in good jest as such but then her boss who was kind of early in 40s started asking if she wanted to go out on customer calls with him. And she was kind of flattered thinking that, you know,

it was kind of, you know, leading to some sort of promotion and, you know, kind of get into the sales side of things rather than just the admin. So, yes, she started to go out on, on Strip's with him. And she used to say to me overnight, but he's a bit, you know, he's a bit touchy-feely and, you know, kind of he's always kind of looking at her, legs when he's in the car.

So I started just to encourage him and say, well, you know, just tease him a little bit. You know, just let your skirt ride up and, you know, let me see your stocking tops. And why didn't you wear some, you know, kind of more revealing tops, you know, with a, you know, kind of more cleavage on show. And as you just be laughing and joking and, you know, but, you know, she said, you know, she'd report back how, you know, she would, you know, tease him a little bit and all the rest of it. And then on one of my periods of leave, I came back and obviously I was rampant. So we were having sex 24-7 over the weekend that I got back. And then on the Monday morning, she was going to work. I was staying at home.

And so I encouraged her by putting out some clothes for us and some stockings and shortings. scared and a nice kind of silky top that she could unbutton and she started laughing and you know joking and going you know you'll be all over me if I wear that and I said well go for it do you know what I mean go for it said well if you want to if he wants to have a feel that might have a feel so she just kind of laughed it off and so so anyway she went she went out and she was on a customer call that day. Anyway, in the car he was starting to put his hand on her leg and anyway, after the customer call he said, oh, should we just go for a drive and just went to a local beach? And yes, he just kind of sat there and had, you know, kind of

had a coffee and then, you know, he made his move and just started running his hand up her leg. She didn't object. She opened the leg. legs and effectively let him finger her. And then, you know, she ended up sucking his cock and, you know, completely, completely blew his mind. You know, some 40-year-old guy getting a blowjob from, she was probably about 19 at the time. And from then on, you know, she came back, told me we had great sex that night.

just blowing my mind, just her describing exactly how she sucked his cock and, you know, and how wet he'd made her. Right. So, yeah, so that happened on a pretty regular basis going forward, and he ended up, you know, taking her to a hotel and having sex with her. And, you know, she used to just tell me all this on the phone whilst I was in training. Yeah, wow. You hit the jackpot.

She must have hit the jackpot. I mean, you were both happy, right? Well, yeah, you know, it's just not, it's not conventional, is it? You know, I think, you know, she was kind of effectively having a cake and eat it. You know, I loved it a bit, and, you know, but she could still, you know, go and have a little bit of extracurricular with her boss. So, yeah, so that's, so that was, you know, fantastic. We then, when I finished training, we then got married and then we moved up to where I was stationed.

And, you know, to be honest, it was a lot more tamer then for a while. You know, we, in fact, I'll go back slightly. When we were on honeymoon, I actually dared to go and dance with this guy who was iron her up. and he ended up fingering her on the dance wall, which added to our spice that night as well. Right. But then we kind of, we got into more of a, you know, kind of routine, you know, kind of newly married in a new area.

And, you know, kind of, it was just a lot more conventional for two or three years. We then did have a, what they do is they have exchange, with other European forces and we had the Dutch commandos come across and effectively she she ended up we were all, everybody went out to the nightclub

and everything and anyway this Dutch guy was actually staying with us in our married quarter and she ended up we got back we had lots of drink she started dancing

he danced with her and then he ended up getting naked and and effectively you know fucking right in front of me which was just

unbelievable so it was just yeah but then we kind of moved to having children and that kind of put a stop to it really so we had two children and we

you know I then got stationed somewhere else and things moved on and we ultimately ended up getting divorced about five or six years later. So, yeah, so that kind of then led me on to my second wife effectively. Right. That's the one that people are going to be able to see pictures of, right? So now when you're dating her, do you start to let her know that you're into this as well,

just like you did with your first wife? I mean, when did you start to, like, how did it come up, the whole cuckling thing with her? Well, it's funny, isn't it? When you first get with somebody, you know, kind of just right out the gate, you don't go. I'd like to see you fuck somebody else. No, definitely not. And honestly, you know, it kind of came up naturally with your first girlfriend, right? Because she was young and she's like, oh, my God, my boss, right?

So it was really like, it was really easy to do it with her because it was kind of like a situation presented itself that it was kind of perfect. So, you know. Yeah, it was pretty much put on the play. you know yeah exactly you know there was a guy there was a guy there who was wanting to

and it was just a case of you know acting like oh maybe let's do it yeah yeah yeah you know and you're young and you know you want to experiment with things and you know

she's flattered that some older guy kind of finds her attractive and he's the boss so there's that you know the elements of power and all the rest of it so so yeah

So that kind of... That was easy. How did you do it with this one? That's what I want to know. Yeah, so, so, well, to be fair, you know, when we first got together, you know, it was pretty conventional to begin with. And it was only, you know, we'd go out drinking and, you know, it was only when I used to start saying, you know, kind of asking her about ex-boyfriends

and, you know, you know, how big their cocks were. you know, you know, and even even to the point where, you know, asking for comparisons, you know, you know, am I not, I didn't even ask, am I the best of, I effectively lead it with, have you had better than me?

Have you, you know, have you had orgasms through, you know, by somebody's flucking you because I could only make her orgasm by, by licking her? Yeah. A quick question. What is the answer that somebody like you wants in that situation? Do you want her to say, oh, no, baby,

you're the best, you're the biggest, or do you want her to be like, oh yeah, I had another guy who had a huge cock and fucked me so good? What is someone like you looking to hear? Well, the answer I want is, you know, I've had better and I've had bigger. Getting that answer is more of a challenge because of the way to size. I would never think that's what you want, right? And they don't want to hurt your feet. feelings and they wouldn't tell you that truth like even if that's the truth right because a lot of times there are bigger better guys out there you would never think you know that that's what your guy wants here that's why i asked that question because i think it's counterintuitive right i knew that what

the answer you wanted was that one but most you know a hundred percent of the woman would think that that's the opposite of what you want to hear but if you're into cuckolding it's it might be what you're actually looking for well without a shadow of doubt but i think that's that you, as a cook-old, I think you have to tread them boards very carefully as you, as you enter into it, you know, because I think that, you know, a lot of women will just go, you know, and there's a lot of women who will turn around and go, why are you asking me about this? You know, are you gay? Yeah.

Are you, are you wanting to get, you know, kind of, do you want, you to talk about girls you've had, you know, Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of suspicion around why you would want to know that. Of course, because it's not something they've ever heard before. No, indeed.

And it's only when, you know, you have to, when you ask that question and you're in a sexual situation is to, you then give off the body language that it's turning you on. So, you know,

and then she then starts thinking, well, you know, turning more, I'll tell them a little, I'll tell them a little bit more. But it's very slowly, slowly, slowly catchy monkey really. You know, it's not, you know, it's not, you know, it's not hearing into that. You know, I think that it's a situation whereby it's slowly but surely is that you start hearing about, you know, how many of you had, you know, what's your number, you know.

You know, every man wants, everybody wants to know that regardless, even if they're cuckold or not, I think. But yeah, you know, and then, you know, it was only then what came out from my second wife was just, you know, kind of, she was with somebody until she was about 22, quite steady. And then he dumped her. And she then fucked three of his friends to effectively get back at him. And it was at that point she realized that she had a little bit of a thing for fucking married guys or attached guys. Because, you know, she gave her a little bit of a, you know, it was her thing. She didn't, the thought of, you know, she was able to have sex and somebody was found her attracted enough to, you know, do the dirty on their wife or their girlfriend.

because she was effectively irresistible, so to speak. So, yeah. So, yeah, so that became a little bit of her thing. And consequently has been still her thing, I think, even though we're in a different kind of dynamic now. But, yeah, so, and then, you know, she was then going on girly holidays. You know, she was having sex in the same room as, You know, as a friend, one of the best ones for me, though,

and the one that really used to always get me off is she was, she was away with work on a week-long conference. And one of the managers there who was married had been trying to, had been chatting her up for about, for the full week. Yeah. Anyway, on me. on the Thursday night they all decided that they were going to go

down to the hotel bar and have a final blowout before they all left on the Friday and you know the guy had put in a proper shift in terms of trying to we were into bed and

it was pretty much on the cards that would happen but when they were in the bar they got talking to two army guys who were there staying over. And anyway,

Jane, who's my wife, you know, kind of really, really fancied these two army guys. They were there in uniform. She always had a little bit of a thing for uniforms. So she was really into it. It's really into this. And so what she ended up doing was,

as the night kind of started to peter out, people started making their way back to the room. One of the army guys gave her their room number and she said well I'm sorry but I'm you know I'm going with this other

I'm going with this other guy anyway she went with this other guy and had sex with him but he was not very good her description was he had a thin dick the worst I hate thin dick

I call him pokey pokey it's like the war I don't even it's really bad there's nothing worse Yes, so yes, so she had an thing. So she was totally unsatisfied. So she thought, what the hell? She went knocked on the door of these army guys

and ended up having a threesome in their room. So basically she had three guys in one night, which blows my mind. Because we even, you know, where that happened is we have to pass that when we're going. into her parents pretty much every time we go. And we both give us,

give each other a knowing look when we go past that hotel where she, where she had this threesome. So, yeah, so it's just kind of, you know, obviously that was, provided me with much fodder when she told, when she told me that. I'm just wondering what she was,

yeah, so, yeah, so she just. But those are all things, though, what I'm getting is that those were stories she told, she told you about stuff that she did before you guys were together, right? Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, before we were together. Right.

So, yeah. So, effectively, she'd have three, some, three guys in one night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, same room sex with friends while she was on holiday. Yeah. And she'd done a ton of married guys, you know, before, before she kind of met with me. And funny enough, I was a married guy when I met, I was separated and going through a divorce, but I think that plus I had a uniform I had a uniform I'm married so so I was right in her target range

so so yeah so yeah so we kind of got together like I say I was separated from from my wife I was away working still in the military but I was just about to leave so so she used to come and stay I had an apartment in another city and I was doing you know kind of non-military work for the military. I was doing recruitment and stuff like that. So, yeah, so we started getting it on. And then, you know, about two years later, you know, we then got married. So she was about, she was about 30 when we got married.

And, you know, we, you know, we had a great life. We traveled a lot, traveled a lot. traveled a lot to America, we've been all over America, New Jersey, New York, Miami, pretty much the whole East, East and also California,

Hawaii and all the rest. So we were doing great holidays, and, you know, we had a great life. And it was, you know, our sex life was driven by the telling of her stories, effectively.

But it wasn't until she reached full, that things kind of, you know, kind of the pace started to up, really. And I think it was just something to do with the fact that she was turning 40. I mean, we called it the naughty 40s. That's a good name. It's true. Yeah. And I think it's just that, you know, that point in your life where you go, you know, you're no longer young and your experience and all of those things.

you know we had a very nice life and you know yet yet to have yet to have children in fact no sorry yeah we just just had our child yeah but she you know our child was sorry we had our child when so when she was 40 41 our child was 5 so so so so he was starting school

so it created a new friendship group for us Yeah, for sure. So anyway, she got really friendly with this girl called Laura, who was in the process of getting divorced. So anyway, she invited Jane out for to go out drinking. Anyway, you know, it started off quite tame. And then within kind of three or four times than going out, Jane would come home and tell me, oh, my God, Laura's just,

she blows my mind she's you know kind of like she's so horny for other guys because she's going through this divorce she was naughty 42 was jane was laura in the same age group laura was a little bit older i think she's 434 4 there's a picture of laura too on patreon i have pictures of both laura and jane so go on sorry so so so so yeah so um so yes they were both really you know really attractive, really fatty. And, you know, and they just started going out. And, you know, Jane would come home and say, oh, my God, Laura's just shameless in terms of how she's chatting with guys and all the rest of.

And obviously, you know, Jane's there. And obviously she's acting as her wingman and getting chatted up as well. So anyway, it was at that point I said, well, you know, I'm kind of, I'm pretty cool with it. You go and enjoy yourself. You know, you know, you know, you're 40, you know, just 10, 40, you know, kind of, why not? You know, I'm cool with it. And anyway, you know, I thought, you know, I wish that something would happen. I wasn't sure whether it would.

Yeah. Anyway, I was away in London, actually, in a, I was at work convention. And anyway, I got this, it was really late at night. I've gotten back to my hotel room something like 2 o'clock in the morning or something and then my phone rings so I answer it and it's Jane calling but I answer the call

but she doesn't say hello and anyway the line is just open effectively yeah yeah oh my gosh this isn't that to be fair this is just the stop so the line is open and it effectively is

Laura and Jane in a cab talking about the two guys that they'd just been with they, to be fair, they hadn't had sex with them, either of them. But Laura was going, oh my God, you know,

we should have brought them back to mine and all the rest of, we should have done this, and Jamie's going, yeah, you know what, we should have, you know, what we should have just gone for it. And Laura then says to Jane, what, you know, what about Craig? And then Jane says,

oh, he doesn't, he doesn't mind. he's, you know, he's, he's fine with me. You know, if I want to play, then I'm allowed to play, which actually blew my mind the fact that she was telling somebody, her friend, that I'm okay with her fucking other guys. So, yeah, so I was, I was kind of, I had to say, I was wanking furiously in my room as I, you know, obviously Laura's going, really, really,

you should have, what, what has that? And she's going, Yeah, yeah, we're just kind of, you know, just kind of Jane made out that. It was kind of cool either way, really, but, which to be honest, to be honest, it's not, to be fair. Jane, Jane would never allow it the other way. Yeah. But, but, yeah, so, so that then kind of opened the floodgates, really, because Laura then knew that Jane had a free pass, or a whole pass, as we call it, in the state chair. So yeah, so what then in she did that every other weekend,

Laura and Jane would go out and I would stay home, and babies, you know, kind of look after our son. To be fair, I had my older son living with us as well, so he was 15, 16 at the time. So I was free to be able to go and do the, drop them off in town, while my older son looked after my younger son um yeah and you know so so basically they would

you know we'd go around so laura's you know go in and obviously they'd be all done up to the nines you know kind of laughing and giggling getting a few pre-drinks in and all the rest of it and anyway it was then that kind of laura started to kind of you know drop little little bombs to me that you know she knew that that that jane hat kind of free reign. So, you know, kind of, oh, yeah, it's come to me, go,

I'll make sure that Jane has a good time tonight. You'd be glad about that, won't you? You want me to look after, and so, yeah, just used to blow my mind. So they then started going out. Anyway, they met up with two guys. One was a black athlete, who was quite famous in the UK,

who Jane got with, and also his physical trainer. and effectively particular night I got a phone call about 2 o'clock in the morning expecting it to be oh can you come and pick us up from the

nightclub but it was at that point the line was open and I could hear you know kind of some muffled noises I then realised that the muffled noises started to become moans

effectively you know I was listening to my wife fucking some guys I didn't know who it was at that point. He was putting on a bit of the show saying how big he was and I love that black cock. Oh, my God. So, you know, so kind of, you know, so I'm there with the child upstairs asleep.

Having my mind blown downstairs. Yeah. Listening into trying to try to work out how to record it on the phone whilst I'm on the call. Mm-hmm. Which I didn't find out how. have to do to be fair. But yeah, so

she then rang me about, I don't know, about 3 o'clock, 3, 4 o'clock. And I couldn't leave at that point so she had to get a taxi at a cab home. And she came through the door

with just the best look on her face I've ever seen in my life with kind of a right smile. Right. And then she came in and basically straddled my face and made me, made me liquor. And then, you know, was effectively saying, right, you need to reclaim your wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So, yeah, so that was mind-blown.

And that went, you know, what then happened is that they then, they used to meet them, Not as a going out, going out, but they used to just frequent the same places. Yeah. And then they'd hook up. And pretty much every time Jane would call me. And I would get to listening to the point where, I don't know, probably two months down the line, she'd, you know. And I'd been looking at chastity and all that because I'd be good. Googling, cuckolding

time and time again and I suggested maybe because what is very difficult is when you're listening to your wife being fucked over the phone it's very hard to control yourself and not come and then she's due back in probably

about an hour and not that I can't go again but you know you just want to save that sensation really so I mean so yeah so she started you know whenever she went out with with Laura she would

she would lock me up even to the point where she would tell Laura that I was locked up to send me pictures from their nights out of them with other guys with these guys or whatever and and even when I would drop them off

so I would drop north and then I'd go and open the doors for them both and you know give my wife a kiss and then Laura would come in to give me a peck on the cheek and she used to tap my chastity device and go you be a good boy now

so yeah so absolutely mind-blown so the other kind of we started getting into a little bit of humiliation as well because the the black guy knew that I knew. Oh, he did.

I was wondering if all these guys know that the phone is on. You know what I mean? Because you could do that on the down low for sure. It's very easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the majority of the times she would. And it was only, and to be honest, it wasn't Jane who told him.

It was Laura. Okay. Told him that, you know, that I was into it. And I was into it. And it was obviously that then made it better, because whenever if he knew that she was phoning, then he used to make her, you know, say things,

you know, in terms of, you know, tell me I'm better than your husband. Tell me that I'm deeper than your husband. Right. Tell me that I bring you off. You know, I make you orgasm. So, so, yeah, so that would obviously just increase. You know, because there's a certain amount of,

I kind of look at it and go. You know, in Cook Holden, there's tease, there's denial, but there's also an element of humiliation. And that, I believe there's a spectrum on that, you know, I think that there is, you know, there's people who will sit, you know, who are sithified and wearing ladies panties and all the rest of it. But, you know, that's not my gig, but, you know, all power to you if you want to do that. Yeah, everyone, it's sort of expressed differently in each person, for sure. Yeah, yeah. So, but yes, she used to lock me up when she went out. And then, you know, and then they, you know, one of the nights,

they decided to get a, go to a different city and get a two-bedroom apartment. And they all went, the four of them went out together. But I drove into this city, which is not too far, not too far away. And when we get, they'll have the car, the guys were. there and the guys went oh come in come in have a drink so I'm like oh my god yeah so this guy who's fucking my wife you know going in and having a quick drink with them um and as we walk in change just says to me go and go and buy the drinks hubby so I then have to go and buy the drinks and serve the drinks to these guys whilst you know like this guy has actually got his arm around

my wife and you know and I'm there like you know like the spare part but actually the husband if you know what I mean so so yeah so yeah and then that night that night they you know they ended up swapping so Jane had so they they got it on with each other's partners first and then they ended up swapping and then they ended up all in the same room and just have an absolute blast. I think I got like a half-hour phone call, but she said that they were fucking until 5 o'clock in the morning. I had to go and pick them up about half-nine, 10 o'clock.

And, yeah, so they both came out with very big smiles on their face. Yeah. And Laura's saying, telling me that, I told you I had three. I'd look after her. So, yeah. So, yeah, so that was, that kind of, he ended up getting transferred to a different club, so that kind of came to a natural end.

But, you know, the girls then went on holiday for a girly weekend. And again, you know, they were just, you know, they were just, you know, They were up for anything, really. And, you know, they just, again, would, I would get, I got two phone calls whilst they were away of Jane getting fucked by two different guys. Now, they never hooked up with each other, right? They're just strictly, like, fooling around with these guys, right? You know, yeah, yeah, I think that they did a bit of, kiss. I don't think that neither of them was, which is weird because Jane's always said that she, like,

to be with a girl. But, you know, I think that's on invitation, really, and possibly Laura wasn't into it. Right. I know that Jane, which I said, that she would go with a girl. Right. But it never came up. But she'd always like to try it. With Laura.

You know, I think that they, you know, I think they kissed and messed about, but nothing, you know, truly sexual from a lesbian point of view. Right. Right. But, but, yeah. So, yeah. So yeah, that one kind of, so those guys petered out, and then it was just, you know, a number of other kind of random guys who they got together with.

I think possibly the most memorable one for me was the 23-year-old guy that she got with. And they ended up going back to, and funny enough, Laura and Jane actually had a bit of a fallout that night. How come? Do you know? Yeah, because Laura was had had eyes for this one particular guy. The young guy, the 23-year-olds? Yeah, but they were 23 and a 25-year-old.

Okay. Laura had her eyes on this 23-year-old guy. And, but funny enough, this 23-year-old guy was more keen on Jane. Yeah. And that didn't go down well with Laura, to the point when Laura actually said, listen you're married why you know

you've got somebody not that yeah I get it though yeah yeah not that a 43 old woman was going to get necessarily get with a 23 year old guy on a permanent basis of course yeah

she was kind of going hang on a minute you know I fancy him yeah but James like well I'm not choosing this he's he's talking to me and wants to talk to me so

what ended up. So Laura actually effectively flounced off wasn't very happy and went home leaving Jane with these two guys. And so anyway

Jane actually rang me while she was in the club so it was, you know, you could hear all the noise of the huge background noise but I could also hear him going, you know, he was, she was going, yeah, you can finger me now and you know

and he was basically fingering her in the club right uh what what what then happened is that the two guys that they then went to go and try and get a cap home but the the cues were massive so the 23 year old guy asked jane just to go around the back of the

building and she's round the back of the building and she's blown with this 23 year old guy whilst his mate is videoing it. Gosh. He then turns around and kind of fucks her against the wall. Again, with the guy, with the guy videoing her. Yeah, so it's kind of, I didn't get, funny enough, the phone call I got then was after the, after he, he finished fucking up.

Right. Yeah. But Jane, when, is it all right if the two guys come back to ours? because they didn't have a place of their own. And she wanted to carry on because she was holy as hell. Yeah. And so I said, yeah, yeah, that's fine. Do you want me to be in the room or not in the room?

She goes, well, just be not in the room when I get home. And then we'll just see how it goes from there. So she even put me on the phone to one of the guys because he was going, he didn't believe. Yeah, for sure. He didn't believe that that was possible, do you know what? Yeah. So, you know, so he's talking to me and I'm going, yeah, yeah, you can come back, you know, have a few drinks.

And, you know, let's have a good time. And he's going, he's sure, man, you know, kind of, you know. Yeah. The story they had when they went home to their friends. Oh, my God. Exactly. So, but as it happened, and I'm sorry to put the damper on it, they bottled it.

23-year-old guy, bottled it. So she ended up coming in a coming home on the taxi on her own because they just didn't quite believe it really. Yeah, or they thought they were going to get knifed or something. I mean, you know, there's a lot of things. You'd be so suspicious, you know, that that's a real situation that, you know,

there's so many other things that you would think of, you know, than that it's actually true. I'm a ex-murderer. Yeah, totally, for sure. How do they know? it's not a sting operation because it's like it really is like too good to be true well yeah indeed or you're by and you want to get with them you know i mean there's just a lot of things that they would be thinking that would freak them out you know yeah absolutely absolutely

yeah one of the things that we did was we did a we created a bucket list yeah things for her to do yeah um and there was different prizes based on what she did yeah So, you know, ranging from apparel of Bhutan's to a trip to New York. And if she had accumulated enough points, then she'd get a convertible BMW. Oh, my God. Did she get the convertible BMW? She did get the convertible BMW. Holy shit.

So she did everything. Yeah. So it was just an absolutely mad three years. It was kind of just absolutely much. mad. Yeah. And then what then happened is that Laura then got with somebody. Yeah. And

on a... Can I just tell you before we get... Wait, let me just tell you before we get to the... like, we're nearing the end, right? You're like the best storyteller ever. This has been the easiest episode for me. To just sit here and listen. I just had to say that because I've been thinking

it the whole time. This is fucking great. So, but now let's get to this part. yeah so so yeah so laura then got with somebody and then um obviously the night's got curtailed and we actually started going out as a for some with her new guy effectively so it was clearly not you know her past she didn't want her past to be common knowledge you know she was looking for a life partner now she know she'd had three years of fun and she wanted somebody to be with But what about you? This is weird I don't understand.

Like she does have a life partner. That would be you, right? Or are we talking about Laura? No, no. So we're talking about Laura. Okay, okay, okay. Got with somebody on a more permanent basis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect.

Okay. So she briefed Jane that if we were together. Because we were all friends together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I used to look after her child when they went on holiday. Right. You know, nights and all the rest of it. So we were up, you know, kind of really close.

as a threesome as such, not in a sexual sense, but, you know. Of course. But, but, yeah, so, so she got with this, this guy, she was under, James under strict instructions that, you know, this was, you know, kind of a, just a normal guy that she wanted to get with. And, you know, so none of the last three years was to be divulged. So, yeah, so we just started going out of them as a force. And, you know, it was fine, you know, but, you know,

in terms of the super hot nights where, you know, Jane was out kind of drinking and fucking guys was put paid to. And then, you know, my wife's in a very female-orientated job. And so she has no, not much interaction with other males. Yeah. So therefore, with her job not having that opportunity, and obviously not going out, you know, kind of on the hunt for young guys, it just kind of petered out.

And that's effectively where, you know, it became incredibly frustrating for me because I'd had these amazing sexual highs for the last three years. And I just wanted more and more of it, you know. So, and whilst, you know, I did learn how to tape my phone. so I had that to listen back to and the stories and you know and because she would think of something that she hadn't told me from two years ago you know I mean and I just blow my mind completely and but it just wasn't happening live if you know I mean it was all kind of recollection of what I'd be

and that you know and whilst I you know I was probably I was hard enough fodder to last me for a couple of years

before I was starting to get a real it for it to happen again and you know I kind of approached Jane and said well you know

what about online stuff you know meeting guys you know from online and you know and you know and it's literally

it's all over you know whether it be Twitter or whether it be fab swingers or or whatever, you know what, Tinder or whatever.

But Jane just wasn't into it. She said, you know, everything that happened happened naturally in a bar. Right. It wasn't staged and I'm not really into having that staged, you know, kind of, I'm meeting a guy to fuck.

Do you know what I mean? She liked the chase and the banter and all the rest of it. Right. She just didn't want to go. And she was also, you know, there's loads of weirdos online, which, you know, is, It's not incorrect.

But obviously you can, you know, you can do your checks and you can, you know, you can speak to people, you know. But none of it was kind of hit at home. So this is where I fucked up properly. It's that, so it must have been two or three years after it had all come to an end. And so I went online and I got talking to some. guy who would like to fuck my wife. Bearing a mind I sent him some pictures and he thought, wow, she's amazing. So I arranged for us to go away to a hotel for one weekend.

And I said to him, right, okay, well, let's, this hotel had a great bar and nightclub and all the rest of it. So I said, well, I'll tell you what, let's, you come and meet me in the later at night, 11, 11, half 11 or whatever, when we go to the nightclub. Jane will have had a drink by then. And let's just see if anything transpires, you know. You see, you know, because Jane gets really, once she's had a drink, she gets really horny and loses their inhibitions and is more up for anything, really.

Anyway, the guy turns up about half 11. and he's as pissed as a fart Oh no So he can hardly string two words together So, you know I kind of just went right

You know I just moved us away from the situation Because I knew it wasn't going to happen With him being in that state And I just thought You know, all right It's just one of those things We went and enjoyed the rest of our night

And then the next morning you know we were just in the hotel going to the spa or whatever left my phone in the hotel room Jane went back and the guy had text me and it flashed up flashed up on my phone saying really sorry mate I had too much to drink

which really still tries you know it would really like to do it you know your wife's amazing she's gorgeous unbelievable would really love to fuck her. Should we try again sometime? And that's obviously when it all went absolutely wrong. What did she say?

Oh, she just went absolutely ballistic. She just went, you know, kind of pimping me out like a whore. Yeah, yeah. You know, everything I've ever done was because I wanted to, you know. And if I'm at my say-so, you know, If there was a guy, I didn't just get with anyone in the bar, you know, if there was, and she didn't, you know, they would go out and sometimes they wouldn't, she wouldn't hook up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She had to have a connection. It was like she, she saw a guy across the room and it was very natural. Yeah, and she said, and I told you I didn't want to do that. And you've gone ahead and done it anyway. Yeah. I was like, well, I went, well, you're never going to have any opportunity to ever do it again because of the role that you do

and that, you know, we don't, you know, we don't go, you know, it's not like we don't go out, but, you know, it's really hard to pull a guy when you're with your husband, isn't it, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so, so that was it. She just went, you know, kind of never speak of this again, really.

You know, the whole cook-holding thing, I'm done with it. That's me. You know, that's the end of the road. Oh, my gosh. So, yeah. so I am a frustrated cookhole. Everyone listening for it. Like, that's the saddest ending of the greatest story I've ever heard.

Yeah, I'm a frustrated cookhole with the lapsed hot white. Yeah, maybe I should have, instead of interrupting you before you got to this part, just to say how fucking awesome you are telling a story, I should have told people to click off if they didn't want to hear a sad ending. You know what I mean? That should have been why I interrupted. Like if you don't want to, like, you just leave now. Hang up.

I mean, you know, press stop on the recording. But yeah, that's, first of all, let me ask you this. How long ago did that happen? So, yeah, so that was about five years ago. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah. And I'll be honest with you, I, you know, I have tried very gently in the last two years

to try and kind of reintroduce some of it really. But only really, you know, she'll on a day-to-day basis, not really entertained, but when she's had a drink. Yeah, bring it up. She will, you know, she'll kind of bring it up and we can have a little bit of a reminisce and all the rest of it. But, you know, she...

And listen, I've told us she's got a whole path for life. So therefore, if she was ever in a situation whereby an opportunity at home, she knows that she has got carte blanche to just go and do what she wants. How old does she know? So she's 48. Right. And now what about your guy's sex life? Is she still super horny and everything?

Is she still like in that, you know, what do you call it, naughty 40 phase? Or do you feel like she's slowing down a little bit? Going down a little bit. Yeah. kind of, you know, to be honestly, I've tried to reintroduce, you know, and I think I'll buy a Victoria's secret stuff and Bhutan's and kind of, you know, try and keep all that going and, you know, even, you know, kind of remote control. Pannies, the vibrating panties, yeah, uh-huh.

Yeah, yeah, I know that. But, you know, I think it's a combination of things. is that, you know, our sons now 13, 14, so a lot more aware than when you're five, if you know what I mean. So therefore she feels as if that, you know, he's, you know, we can't necessarily be as as sexual around each other day to day, if you understand what I'm saying. Of course, yeah. And, you know, these things happen, you know, you know, she's a great, you know what,

She's a great hotel fuck. Right. She's always been a great hotel fuck. Right. You take her away. Yeah. You know, a nice meal, you know, get dressed up. Yeah.

Cocktails. You know, she does things in hotels. There is something about a hotel. I don't know what it is. It's like you're out of your life or something. I don't know. But I always would say to people like, I get really horny in a hotel room. Like there's something about being in a hotel room, right?

that does something to certain people or maybe everyone, I don't know, but it is, I get that. Yeah, so she's still a hotel slot. Yeah. So which is good, but not during COVID, clearly. So, yeah,

so this last year has been about a bit challenging because we haven't been able to go and stay in any hotels. Right. By you, is it the same shit here? Like here they put all, like, the crazy people in the hotels and then the sick people in the hotels, I mean, forget about it.

It's like a nightmare. Yeah, well, our hotels are short. Yeah. Other than key workers. Right. You need to travel. You can't just go for a lot. You know, you know, that's until next, well, May.

Hotels are shut until May. Right. So, yeah. So you're coming to the home stretch of a long time that you've been, without anything going on, right? We've had three different lockdowns. We've been in and out of lockdown,

and this last one's been the longest since January. Terrible. So, yeah, so it's challenging on that front as well, because, you know, again, I get why, you know, she doesn't necessarily want to be swings into a chandelier, when you've got a 14-year-old downstairs. Yeah. And she doesn't have that wing woman.

I think it's very different, you know, her going on her own with somebody, right? I don't know. Like, I just think she had it for so long in such, like, the perfect way, right? It almost, like, ruined it because she can never create that again. I don't think there's another Laura that exists, right? I mean, that was, like, the perfect storm, right? So it's like, how does she ever recreate that and go to a place where it's, set up very different, right?

Which is what you want. But for her, I get why she maybe can't see, like, it working out in a different scenario because the way it really worked out for her was so natural. And she had a friend with her, you know, that to really do it in, like I said, a totally set up way without her friend is a, it's like apples and oranges. To her, right, you know? Yeah. Unfortunately.

Yeah, and I get that. And, you know, I think I try to, you know, listen, you know, I hold my hands up and what I did was wrong. It was fundamentally wrong. It was my own horniness and desire to re-to-reate that. Yeah. Overrode her feelings. Yeah.

And I get that and, and listen, I was, you know, terribly sorry for, and it was an error in judgment, really. Yeah.

And not something that I would, you know, I was clearly not have a look to do again. Yeah. But yeah, you know, I think that it's,

but what about your feelings? This is what I'm, this is what I'm going to say in a situation like this. Like, yeah, you were completely wrong to do that. But there needs to be a little bit more of a compromise, right? Because, yeah, you need to be listening to her feelings and, you know, abiding by what she says is cool and not cool. But she also should be listening to what you're saying and thinking, like, hey, like, how could I, you know, maybe help out or satisfy him while also remaining, you know, true to myself and what I think, right?

there could be a compromise on both parts, right? It's not like you just listen to her and that's it. You have like, you know, a desire for something to happen, something that you had before. And listen, if she was my friend and she came to me and said, oh, my husband did this and he set this up and she told me the whole story, I'd be like, oh, you know, he really wants it again. Like maybe you should figure out another way to make that happen.

You know, you didn't do that. It wasn't, not that it was right, right? it was totally wrong, but it came from the part of you that, you know, she's always known the part of you that this is like a big, this is a part of you, right? And she's known that the whole time you've been married, and it's still a part of you. So how can you guys make it work? So I sent her an email effectively pouring up my heart and going, you know, I'm sorry, but this is who I am. Yeah. This is the way I'm wired. Right. You know, kind of you were all, you know, no matter what, you know, you're my fantasy woman.

The only ever person I ever, to be honest, the only person I ever wonk over is her. Yeah. Okay, with another guy. But, you know, but, yeah. So, and it kind of fell on deaf ears, really, you know, you know, no reply, really. You know, and I just, I put at the end of email, you know,

we don't have to discuss this immediately. But it's something I want you to think about and, you know, come back to me when you've had that thought process. Yeah. But nothing, do I mean? Other than, other than going to a hotel,

having a load of drink, and then fucking our brains out and she'll, you know, remember the time where fuck that black guy. Right, right, telling you the story. Which is great. Yeah. Do I mean, which is absolutely fantastic.

But other than that, it doesn't, you know, it doesn't enter into, you know, kind of how we can kind of do anything else. such or whatever. You know, because even if it was, you know, even if you was doing online sex chat, do I mean? God, that would blow my mind. Yeah, I was thinking that, like, maybe off or, like, maybe she could just look herself

online and then maybe she could, you never know that someone might strike her fancy and then she could, you know, start chatting with them and do webcam stuff, something, you know, there has to, I think that there should be a compromise on her side, you know? Yeah. And me too. And, you know, it's got to the point now where genuinely I'm thinking of going to visiting a pro-dom. Oh, see, this is here and lies the problem. This is the problem.

This is sometimes why people cheat, right? And somebody said on my YouTube comments recently, like, oh, cheaters, a cheater is a cheater. It's like, no, a cheater is not a cheater. Not every cheater is the same. You cannot put every guy that's ever cheated on his wife in the same category, right? Somebody like you, if you went and saw a Dom, you can't put you in the category with the professional philanderer, right? You're a guy who has no interest in anyone else, but you have this intense desire. You have tried everything from writing her a massive email, trying to communicate, going out and setting it up for her in the wrong way.

but right even just that was like you trying to you know stay within your relationship and have your needs met while also you know keeping her okay i mean in that situation you were and sort of thinking of her but you know doing everything and you know eight years later it falls on deaf ears like you said and then now you're at the point where you're thinking of straying and that sometimes happens what is the solution here maybe it's that you need to go to her because you're I got to tell you, my sister came to me recently, and I was talking about my podcast and cheaters, and she's like, oh, I have to admit to you that my husband, she's been married to her husband for a very long time, admitted to me that he hasn't done anything yet, but he was very honest and said that, you know, he felt afraid that if somebody came along and gave him what he kept, he's been asking my sister for, which is a different thing than you, it's just emotional stuff, right, that he would be tempted to do something and he's not that person, right? And she really took that to heart.

And I thought like how great that he communicated that to you, right? And I think that's what a lot of guys don't do that. And then they just crossed the line, right? She was lucky to get that information and it really put her in fucking check. So now, so maybe you could go to her and say, listen, I'm nervous because like, I really have this need. And because maybe she'll say then fucking go. Maybe she'll say, oh my God, you know, like, but maybe you should put that out there before

you go and do it. But in a very honest way, not like you're, like, you know, that you're afraid that it's going to happen because you can't control this desire, you know, and it's not, you know. Because to be honest, I know, I love it. I love it a bit. Yeah. She's, you know, she is my life partner. Yeah.

I don't want anybody well. anybody. And I don't want to be emotionally involved with anybody else. Yeah. But because of the way that I'm wide sexually, I feel as if I need a certain elements of that tease and denial and, you know, arguably some humiliation. And to be honestly, if I had to brief a pro dom, it would be that effectively this prodon would be Laura, effectively. She would take the place of Laura and tell me, and she would be saying how she'd been out with my wife and being fucking guys with my wife.

Right. So you're looking at it, the way you're justifying it, is it's not you're putting her in the wife position. It's totally separate kind of person that you're hiring her to be. Exactly, because the thing is, yeah, but your wife would still see it as massively cheating, and if she found out, she'd divorce you. Oh, no, yeah. Well, you know, the end of the day, you know,

without a shadow of a doubt, you know, I'm not saying that it's not cheating. Although I am paying to leave. All right. I don't want to get emotionally involved. But yes, I'm not in any way saying that it's not cheating. But what I'm trying to say is that it's not that I'm looking at another woman going, right? I want to have sex with her.

Yeah, I get it. What I want that woman to be is a dominant who effectively humiliates me in terms. feeds me and denies me telling talking about her going her in fantasy world going out with my wife fucking love the guy

yeah no I get it I'm just yeah I totally get it but like and I also get why you set it up with the guy at that time but your wife didn't you know so I wonder if you could explain this to her or you're just going to do it

you know I like I you know this is why I say like this is like this is like heed this kind of warning. Like if you're a partner, whether it's a man or a woman, is coming to you continuously, you know, for years trying to get you

to be into something that they're into, you know, after a while, if it does fall in deaf ears and nothing is done, sometimes even somebody who's really monogamous will stray, right?

You're like a really monogamous guy this whole time, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And the thing is that, Even in that email, I've gone, listen, tell me what your kink is. If we can't do my kink, tell me what yours is. Right.

Because I don't quite believe that. I think that, listen, I'm a great believer in that everybody's got a kink. They're just not brave enough to tell you. Her kink is that she likes fucking married men, and she's got a lot of kinks that you already know about. I mean, come on. But I think, listen, you have to understand, too, she's probably dealing with her hormones changing. She's probably not half as horny as she was when she's 42, okay, when she was in her early 40s. It changes.

So, you know, she has that going on. Maybe get her on some, you know, hormones. It'll help. She probably doesn't have that level of horniness there. You know, listen, I'm curious of what you do next. I would say the quote unquote right thing, right thing to do. and like I always say, like, you know, I'm not your moral compass. You have your own, right?

It's really up to you. I would say, you know, maybe try to have one more conversation with her. Listen, without a doubt, I've already decided that I would not do this without going to a first and saying. Oh, okay. So you were going to get her consent. Well, yeah. You know, I've written two long emails in the last 18 months. Yeah.

And, you know, and there's been no conversation on the back of those emails because I didn't want to bring it straight up to her because I wanted for it to have time to consider it rather than just being a bolt out the blue. Yeah. So, so I've done that. So you've put exactly what you, sorry, so you've put exactly what you told me in those emails? Seeing a dom having her be in the lower position? No, no. No, I haven't, I haven't, no, I haven't said that. What I've said is, you know, it's a part of me.

I'm wired that way, even if, because we don't even, other than being in a hotel room, like she could just get, you know, she, like she stopped looking at me when we go past that hotel, when we go to her parents. Yeah, she's not as morning, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. Because she would, it would always be a right smile as we went past there. Of course, yeah.

That's where she fucked. That's where she fucked three guys in one night. Yeah. So, you know, it always used to be a thing. And it's not a thing anymore because that thing falls into the cuckold category, which is, you know, persona non grata. Yeah. So, I mean, if you say to me, I'm never going to do this without her consent,

then you have to be, I think, maybe a little bit more specific. in your next email to her or your sit down with her saying like, you know, what is the solution here? This is the problem. I want this, right? And I don't want to do this behind your back. You don't want to do it. So what is the solution? Can I do it with your consent?

Can we do it in a different way that is okay with you? Like, you know, you have to have that conversation with her, maybe. That would work, you know, and where you both sit there and try to figure out how to do this. To be honest. Yeah. Yeah. And then I have to wrap it up because I were at an hour, 15 minutes. Right. Okay. So, yeah. So my plan was always to be is that we go to a hotel and we have that discussion there rather than being in the family home and all the rest of it.

And okay, I might miss out on hotel slot for one night, but it might, it might mean, you know, I get a pathway. Yeah. But, but yeah. that's absolutely fine. But thank you very much for listening to my story. Oh my God, thank you for the best story ever.

I think I might put the disclaimer in the episode, like at this minute, you know, if you don't want to hear the ending, tune out, you know. But what's so interesting to me and why I think it's important for people to hear the whole story is that, you know, life doesn't always,

it's not like perfection, right? Like you had these years, things happen, and then this happened. And it's very real life, right? And it's a really interesting story because, you know, I think some people have different versions of it, but sort of similar in that when they were younger with their partner, they had all these crazy times, even if it's their partner wasn't fucking other people. But then they get older and hormones happen and menabause happens and kids grow up,

but all these things happen. And then things really change. And then therein lies the dilemma and why you see a lot of people wind up having affairs. and things happen, you know. So I think it is an important part of your story. I don't think I'm going to put the disclaimer, and I've changed my mind. People need to hear it.

This is real life, you know, and this is how it works. But do me a favor and really, please, keep me posted on what happens next. I want to know if you've done it when you do meet with the dominatrix, or you get the okay from her, or you guys do something else. I don't know. I'm curious of what the next chapter of your,

guy story is. So keep me posted. And thank you so much for like the easiest, best episode. This is going to be highly downloaded. You just watch, there's a lot of guys that are into the same shit that you're into. Trust me. Watch on YouTube. People are going to be all over this episode.

All right? Well, thank you. Listen, I love your podcast and I love you the advice that you give to people. So thank you very much for your time. No, thank you, Craig. Okay. Thank you. You made my job very easy today. So

And this will be aired like this Sunday. It's going to bump all of them up. Okay? Well, not this Sunday. Actually, I have my one edited for this Sunday. Next Sunday, yours will be up. Okay. Right, great.

Thank you very much. Okay. Have a great day. You too. Thanks, Craig. Thank you. Bye. Bye.

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