Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 386 - Jake and his Wife Were Full Swapping with their Best Friends and Now he's Banging them Behind her Back

Episode Date: April 26, 2021

Jake and his wife were full swapping with their best friends and now he’s banging them behind her back. How did they start swapping? What exactly went down when they swapped? How did he start hooking up with them solo and why hasn’t he told his wife? Tune in for all the juicy details which include the jealousy that took place after the first swap and how they got past it, the time they swapped with his co-worker and how that made him realize he was a cuckold, when he realized he was bisexual and how his wife felt about it when he told her, how and when he started having sex on the down low with his best friend’s wife, the sexual things they did together that his wife wasn't into including her fulfilling his pantyhose fetish, how his best friend eventually became involved and what exactly went down with the three of them, the time they did a train in the shower and where his wife was when it went down, when and if he's ever going to tell his wife and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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year, right, that are pretty major. One is that Jake and his wife swap, full swap with their friends, their best friends. They've also full swapped with his coworkers, and he talks about that too, but they started full swapping with their best friends very early on, and they did that for a long time. And we talk all about that and everything that went down with that. But then eventually, the other second big, interesting thing that goes down in this podcast is that he started to see his best friend's wife on the DL, like secretly. Even though they were still swapping him and her would start talking behind everyone's back because that girl does a lot of things for him that his wife won't do, right?

So they did stuff on the download. But then what happened after that was the best friend came into the picture and he started sleeping with his best friend and the wife behind his wife's back. She's still the only one not in the know, right? And then he started fooling around with the guy too, right? So now he starts to have his bisexual experiences, his first bisexual experiences. You hear about that. They've had a couple threesomes, the three of them.

One of them involved a chain, a train, not a chain, well, excuse me a chain, but a train, right? And he was in the middle. You got to hear about that and it happened like in a shower. I mean, it's crazy, these stories that happened. While his wife didn't know what was going on and then they had a full swap, It's just insane what has gone down between these four people, you know. And his wife, like I said, is still not in the know. And we talk a little bit about that.

Like, I do give him some advice about how I think he should tell her. But anyway, the details of the story are fucking great. The whole episode is entertaining. Jake's funny. He's cool. And so sit back, relax. And I'm going to be right back on with Jake. Hey, Jake.

Welcome to a strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Good, how are you? I'm good. So Jake, you have a lot of things going on. Okay, like you do have this pantyose fetish, but I was a lot more interested in all this other stuff that you talked about in your short email to me,

which was, it sounded like a lot of like love triangles or cheating triangles or sex triangles going on in your life. I was the least... It kind of is. Right? I have the pantyho's fetish. Yeah, who cares? The swap.

that's turned into more than just swapping with partners. Yeah, I was like, oh my God, you're swapping with the best friends, wife, and then you think your wife knows, and then there's another person. Like, I don't know, there's just, it's very complicated and interesting. So you're saying it started out of swapping, and then it turned into this other stuff? Like, let's just go there first. The Panios thing will come out eventually. I've talked to a lot of Panias.

I was going to say, I mean, you talk to Panyos guys every day. It's the same story. I stole it from my aunt. We know. I know. Yeah. I got a difference. I mean,

I got more stories than just the Panyo story. Yeah, I like these, like I said, these sex triangles you have going on. I don't know what the fuck you were talking about, but I want to, you know,

I want the details. Right, right, right. So, okay, I want to say this before I get started. I love my wife. I've always loved my wife. Uh-huh.

It's, it's just, I don't know. The sex is she's not about sex like I am. Mm-hmm. She used to be when we were younger. Mm-hmm. How old are you now?

And we are in our mid-30s. Okay. And when did you guys meet up? I have been with my wife since we were 12 years old on and off through kids through high school. Oh, my God. When did you guys start having sex? When did you guys start having sex? I lost my virginity to my wife.

Mm-hmm. when I was 16 years old. Wow. Okay. Okay. So I love that. Listen, I like that disclaimer in the beginning, right?

Because, you know, it sets the stage because, you know, I don't think you could lump some all cheaters in one pile, right? Right. You can't say, oh, somebody like you is like a philanderer, right? There's all different kinds of cheating, right? Here we have a guy who lost his virginity to the, to a woman when he's 16. You've been with her until you're now in your early 30s, and you're cheating. Now, I'm not saying that it's right.

I'm just saying that it's interesting that you give that disclaimer, right? Because, you know, your disclaimer is, I want to start off saying I fucking love my wife, right? She's great. She's my best friend. I couldn't do it without her. Okay. This is the thing.

I've begged my wife for more, and I've tried to do more with my wife, and it has become very, very vanilla. It's always the same sex, missionary, nothing special. And even pantyhose, I love my pantyhose, I'm obsessed with pannios. Maybe once a year she'll give me pantos, maybe once a year. Right. And it's a, I want to do all this stuff with her, but she's just not willing to give a little.

You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And you bring it up all the time, like you've had lots of conversations? All the time. And then, you know, I wasn't ever going to act out on any of this stuff. Right. It got to the point where I've told her all this thing, and her answer has become, I don't want you to leave me.

But if you need this in your life, then maybe you need to go find that. Right, right. Well, our day-to-day connection and, like, our everyday as parents as a couple, we're great together, never fight, never nothing. but I'm a very sexual person and she is not sexual anymore. Do you guys have kids? We have one kid. And how old is that kid?

Did this all happen like after the kid was born? Yes. My kid is 10 years old. So, but actually, so let me start with the swapping stories because that started with our best friends, John and Amy. You've been our best friends. I mean, John's been my best friend since freshman year of high school. I'm like this person that when I connect with you, I'm staying connected with you.

You know what I mean? I don't want to lose that friendship. Yeah, you're loyal. Right. So John has been my best friend since high school. And then he got with Amy after we had graduated high school. We didn't have kids at the point at that time. we were hanging out partying all the time.

And John and Amy was at our house every night, or we were at their house every night. Mm-hmm. And we'd drink, we'd smoke, we'd get, we'd have our fun. And it started off as jokes about, hey, let's swap, you know, fun and games, joking, whatever. And then one night it finally got to the point where we're like, well, let's try it. Oh, my God, all right. How old were you guys at that time? I'd say we're 19, 18, 19.

Okay, so you guys are young, mm-hmm. Yeah, yep, we're young, wanting to have fun. Mm-hmm. And so we swap. We're, I'm trying to remember where we're, I guess that really don't matter. We were probably at our house drinking and watching a movie. Yeah. And switch seats, you know.

His wife sits there, or his girlfriend at the time, sits next to me. Yeah. And I said, or he's sitting next to my girlfriend. Mm-hmm. And we start fingering each other's girlfriends, and it turns into a full swap situation. Oh, my God. That's kind of crazy.

Don't you think? Yeah. Yeah, it absolutely was because it was up until that point, it was joking. It was always, you know, we joke around other friends to make them uncomfortable. You guys, but let me ask you this. You and your girl, because you had been together for so long,

and you were really, like, listen, you've known each other since you're 12, right? you're 18. You guys lost Virginia and each other. You're like, even to this day, she's still your best friend. Like, had you guys talked about it that you guys knew on your end, you were into it? Or was it just like a joke

every now and then that you guys threw out? It was always just a joke. I mean, it never, we never, I, in my head, I'm like, that would be awesome. You know, I'm like, obviously everybody's joking about this. I can't. Yeah, but the crazy. Right, but what's so crazy is that all of a sudden

here you are four separate people and everyone moves forward and is fucking down with it. Do you know what I mean? There was not one person that was like, wait a second. What the fuck are we doing? You know what I mean? You know, and it became a joke to everybody. Like, nobody knew what we were doing. Yeah.

But everybody, when we were together all the time, everybody's like, whose wife is who and who's, you know what I mean? Oh. Everybody's like, you guys are like a four-thum, you know. We're always together. Right. This was after you started to have sex. Or this was even before? No, even before. Oh, okay. So you were super duper close.

Right. So, I mean, and then it finally happened. All the way that time? I mean, just tell me that story specifically. So E's figuring your wife, because I have to believe that, I mean, unless you're so wasted that nobody's really coherent. I would have to think, you know, maybe your wife's looking at you just to make a, you just to make sure like you're still cool with it or and she's I don't know or is everyone just so young when you're and I forget how it is when you're young you just don't think about things like that I don't know there was definitely like look like I'm not going to do this right he's not about it right right and she gives me that look yeah kind of like he's making a move and I'm like go with it

and I'm like all right if they're doing it then I'm a I'm clear to do what I want right that's what I mean I would expect, I would think that there would be a little hesitation and just, you know, sort of unspoken, right? But just to make sure because, you know, when you cross that line, there's always that fear that your partner will be jealous, you know, all this stuff. And since you guys didn't talk about it ahead of time, all of a sudden it's happening and it just happens, which I think is so interesting. When it happened, it was great.

Like we were having fun. We had a great time. And you went all the way. But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry. Oh, yeah. Sorry, I just want to paint the picture of that night. You're fingering his wife. He's fingering your wife, okay?

And then eventually clothes start coming off, and, like, he's fucking her, and you're fucking his wife, and you guys are both watching, and it's, like, is a part of the, like, do you realize you're very voyeuristic and you like seeing your wife? Like, I mean, there must be, there's so much that's going on in that scenario that I need to pick apart. Oh, I loved, I loved watching it. And I got, we got to the point, so we're like, well, let's go to the bedroom. Let's do this in the bedroom on the bed.

So then at that point, I could touch my wife while she's getting fucked by my best friend. Right. I loved it. While I'm fucking my best friend's wife. And I'm this, like, when I say I'm sexual, I'm like, I want to, I can just fantasize being in a room just a bunch of people fucking and being in the middle of it. Right. I would love it. Right.

Okay. And you're also bi. I mean, I'm just going to throw that out there now. Why don't we just bring that up now? Yeah. I don't know if this comes later. I am very by. Okay.

Now, did you know at this point that you were by? Did your girl know that you're by? Does she know you're by? She knows now. And back then, I knew it, but I didn't want to, you know. Yeah, you didn't talk about that young and you're around everybody and you're like, you know, you got friends, oh, you're so gay. And I'm like, you know, I don't want to bring it out.

You know what I mean? I was like ashamed of it. Mm-hmm. Sure. But I got to the point, I would say my mid-20s, I'm like, I'm not hiding this so more. Right. I want, there's things that I want and I want to do that if I keep hiding it, it's never

going to happen. Mm-hmm. So I wanted to be able to do what I want to do in my wife and not regret something when I'm in my 50s for not doing. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. So you told your wife, first, is that what happened? And then everyone else found out, like you decide to just totally come out as by or just with, you know, the people that you fool around with?

Just the only people that know that I am by is my wife, John, and Amy. Okay, cool. These people that you fool around with. Yep. Okay, cool. So wait. Yeah, sorry. Nope, go ahead. No, you go ahead. So I was just going to say that night, that first night, you know, I, you know, I, stayed away from him. I didn't do anything. This was all new. I didn't want to go too far. I didn't want to push too far. Right. Did your wife and the girl hook up? No. And they still haven't. Okay. I've tried multiple times to get that scenario to happen. But they're not into it. Right. Okay. Okay. So. The next day. The next day, my wife had a jealousy issue with it. because at that point

I have only fucked my wife my wife had only fucked me ever in our life so at that point she had you know she didn't get real upset but she wasn't super thrilled with it

after because she was like I was the only person you'd ever had sex with and the same for me she goes we just ruin that oh right babe listen we're we're 18 years old, we're lucky we don't have 30 fricking sex partners, you know what I mean?

You're totally right. I said, let's explore a little. We don't have to, I'm not saying we have to split up and do our own thing. I said, let's do it together. Yeah. You know? So that's, you know, that's my ultimate fantasy too. It's like, I would love

for my wife to be like, let's go fuck these people together. Let's go fuck. You know, I would love to be a full-time swinger. And as long as my wife's coming home at night, And as long as I'm coming home at night, that to me is perfectly fine. Right. As long as we're being safe about it.

Mm-hmm. Right. So, but we worked past the jealousy. And, you know, before we had kids, it was, we would swap every few months, you know. It wasn't a regular thing. Like, we were doing it every weekend. You know, we'd be, we'd go out, we'd have some drinks and it pop up and we'd do it again, you know? Mm-hmm.

So then after that, we all settled, kind of settled down. John and Amy had kids. Me and my wife had a kid. And, you know, hanging out came to a halt. Every month or so, we'd hang out and see each other. So swapping wasn't when we were just trying to catch up, you know. Yeah. A couple, let's say, my daughter was probably four or five years old when this happened.

my wife met or she didn't really meet them it was my co-worker and I had told my co-worker all these stories about us swapping and they you know we all knew them too because they would we played sports together or whatever right so we ended up swapping with my co-worker and his wife how did that happen so I told all these stories to my co-worker you know yeah talk yeah yeah Oh, man. So we, you know, we kind of became friends. We hung out outside of work. He had my wife's phone number.

I had his wife's phone number. It kind of got to the point where she was about it. She was wanting to fuck this other guy. Your girl, you're like. Yeah. And I'm like, you know what? I'm about it. You know, I'm not really, I'm not one type of person,

or one person type of person. Right. And you felt, you felt okay. I mean, because you were literally, this is something that actually turns you on, right? So it's like a benefit for you too. It's not all right. Right.

Now, this situation was a tad bit different. Mm-hmm. Because when we swapped with them, it was separate bedrooms. We didn't go to the same. It didn't start in the living room and we all went to the bedroom together. Okay.

Interesting. Why do you think that was different with them as opposed to your other friends? you know I don't know what caused that right but it's just how it naturally went yeah right I think it was more of that other couple yeah then it was us okay because like I said that never happened and I think they were the more of they they didn't want to see each other having sex with somebody up right and when you were telling him stories right about everything like did you know uh whether they had done anything like this before? Was this their first time? He

this guy kind of had the I don't know how you say it like the sexual prowess of me he wanted to fuck everything yeah so he would tell me that he's that they had done it a few times but he

would when his wife would leave he would have somebody over and have the neighbor over and have sex with her you know, I'm like, I get it, I understand it, whatever, you know. But, so that was more for my wife. Right. And I told her, I said, that's, we hadn't, like I said, we hadn't swapped in a long time.

Because of the kids. Yeah. And I told her, I said, that's fine. You want to swap with them. And I want to swap with John and Amy again. It's been a long time. Right. So that got us back to swapping.

We did with the coworker maybe twice, and then they kind of weren't about it. They went through the hard jealousy issue. Right. It didn't work for them. Right. So we got back to swapping with John and Amy. Well, when we set up a date just to swap, John was texting my wife, and I started texting Amy. Mm-hmm. And when I started texting Amy and we were texted back and forth,

it kind of got more intimate than friendly talk. You know what I mean? Yeah. But explain a little bit in case someone else doesn't know what you mean. So, you know, we started sexting back and, yeah, we started sexting back and forth and telling each other like, oh, yeah, we've, I mean, I've been wanting to fuck you again for a long time. Right. So that started mine and Amy's texting relationship is what I call it.

So we swap again, and I think that time we did the same thing we did with the coworkers. We went downstairs and my wife and John went upstairs. Oh, so now it's a little bit more private. Right. I'm like, this is kind of awesome, you know. Yeah, I think that that's like a different thing, right? It's like a different experience. Maybe both are hot, right?

But it is very different than doing it in the same room. Right. It's like I got this opportunity and I can do whatever I want and I feel like I don't have somebody eye in me from the side of their, you know, out of their peripheral vision to watch and see what I'm doing. Right. So. Same with her.

Same with them. They feel the same way. Right, right. Yeah. Kathy, let me tell you, I was so. excited. Right. And you had built this up because you guys were sexting all that stuff too.

I mean, like this was like the perfect storm for like the best night of sex ever for you. Well, that was my plan. I got in there. Yeah. And I could not get hard. What? Oh my God. That's awesome.

I don't know if it was nerd. Oh, that's so funny. It's too much excitement. Yeah, probably. Oh, I was so my heart was broken. Oh. Oh my God. That is kind of interesting.

You know what? We tried multiple different things, and it just, it would get hard for a second, and I'd go to fuck, and it would just go limp noodle. Unbelievable. You must have been so pissed. I was pissed. I had anticipated this.

I was excited for so long. Yeah. So that's kind of that situation right there, made everything, I think, worse between me and Amy, because I'm like, that's not my, that's not my game. I'm redeeming myself. Right. Oh, meaning worse in that you guys talked even more? Like, what do you mean by worse?

Because I think it's, you don't mean it like in the right sense. Well, it made you want her more. You mean it made you want her more and you were more sexually into her and more wanted her more in the other room and wanted to sex with her more privately. Absolutely. Right. So I'm texting her and I'm telling her like, I'm redeeming myself. I don't care if John and my wife are there. Yeah.

I'm going to fuck you. I said, I'm getting my redemption. I said, I had that night so built up in my head that I can't let this pass. And she's like, I'm ready. I said, find a time. So that's when I admitted to her about my pantyose fetish. I told her, I said, I have had this since I was a kid. I said, I love Panyos.

I'm obsessed with Panyos. I said, I wear Panyos. And she's like, okay, cool. She goes, if you want to do that, I'm all about it. And I'm like, a heroin addict trying to find his dealer. I'm so addicted. You know what I mean? When she said that, I became addicted.

Right. And every time I text her, or she sends me pictures, she's got panty hose on. If I go to see her, she has panty hose on. And it's like, how do I quit that? If I can't get that at home, and it's something that I need so bad. So by this point when this started, right? Because this is years ago, I'm assuming. Yeah, this was, I would say this was within 10 years ago.

I mean eight years ago. Okay, so that many years ago. So five, six years ago, at that point had your wife stopped with the panty hose wearing for you as well? Because I know that you started off saying she barely does it ever for you now. But back then when this started with Amy, had she quit it already too for you by then? Yes. Right.

Okay. When me and my wife got back together, because like I said, we were in high school, we were on and off like young kids. The last time we got back together, was probably 16 years ago. Yeah, okay. She would wear pantyhoes. If I asked her, she would put them on no problem, no complaint, no nothing.

And then it turned into every couple months she would wear pantyos for me. And then it turned into special occasions she would wear pantyos for me. I just had a birthday not too long ago, and I had to beg for it. It tells me it's like nails on a chalkboard. Right. Nails on a chalkboard is what she says. For her to just wear them for you? Or for you to wear them while you're having sex?

No, she, any touch, she's a touch of nylon on my skin is like nails on the truckboard. It don't matter if I'm wearing them, it don't matter if she's wearing. Oh, she hates the feeling of nylon. Oh, that sucks for you. And for her, because here it is, like, the guy she's with, like, fucking loves that. And she's got, like, a sensory thing, like, bluepy thing. like block with it that you know that sucks yeah yeah that's a problem and i asked her i said is this something that's new because like that back in the day it wasn't an issue she goes back in the day

i had i didn't have you i she goes i have you now and i said that's a shitty way to kind of look at oh but honest that's yeah it's like normally people i think that happens but people aren't sort of like it's like a subconscious thing right but for her to really put that in words it's kind of funny but sad but true right i mean because that happens a lot in relationships right and that's what i tell her i said i understand and i said that's why i don't ask you for it like i used to i said but it would be nice if every once in a while you could give in to me you know so but anyways back to amy yeah she no problem at all. I mean, anytime I want it, she's in Panyos

and it's like that. And like I said, I'm like a heroin addict trying to find my dealer with it. Yeah, but wait, let's go back to that. I'm ready for it. Right, but let's go back. Is there a time? Okay, because listen, we were, the progression of the story where we're at is like

you just had this night where you guys swapped together, right? In separate rooms, you couldn't get it up with Amy. Now you guys, guys are sexting and like you say you're like a junkie looking for your next fix and you got to like really fuck her and show her that you could get it up right so now do you do that at your guys next for some or do you do something naughty and meet up with her on the side this is when me and amy start meeting up there we go yeah i text her at this point john was working second shift

Mm-hmm. And putting this into this sentence is saying, it sounds crazy. But this is one of the reasons I love my wife. I can say, hey, I'm going to go do this tonight, and she says, okay, don't ask questions. Don't, you know, don't have a problem with anything I want to go do. So I could say, hey, I'm going to go tonight and go over here and hang out with these people. Okay, have fun. right so I mean it makes it easy he's on second shift my wife is very laid back and she's not one of

these wives that want to nitpick every time you want to leave the house so I tell her I'm gonna I'm going over here and I'm hanging out with so and so and she's like all right have a good time and I'm going to john and Amy's house because john's at work right and so she knows and you know at this point via tax that you guys are hooking up behind your partner's backs. Correct. Okay. That's super naughty. It's super naughty.

You know, the first time I did it, I'm like, what did I just do? Right. But the problem with super naughty things. When I did it, I wasn't thinking about it. That's what I was just going to say. The problem with super naughty things are super naughty things, especially like when you're young and really horny. Like are really fucking horny, right?

Like are hot, right? It just, the naughtiness adds to the fact that it's like. Like you're so horny for that situation, right? That's how I was young once. I understand that. Right. I mean, that just made it hotter. When I get horny, there's no thinking that goes on into my brain.

I know. It's for everybody. It's like you're drunk. It's like you're drunk. Right. It's an altered state of being. Right. And then so.

And even when you're in the buildup to it, you could be in that altered state. You know what I mean? It starts with it starts even before when you just start to get horny even when you're just texting, right? It's not even just during the act. It's like. Right, absolutely. I'm horny for her since we've been texting and

I didn't get my horny out for her when we swapped. Right. So that made it like when I said that it got that much worse. That's what I meant. Like the hornyness for her never went away. I never got that fix. Right, right. That's the problem. So now you go back that night that you

see her. Her guys away. Your wife's oblivious. You go to her house. I'm hoping you get it up this time, right? You got it up this time? Oh yeah. I got it up and I received myself. Like I said, at that point, she had known about my panty hose fetish. So she had panty hose on waiting for me at the door. Well, not at the door. She was sitting on the couch, but she had panty hose on, was waiting for me. And I had a pair on. And as soon as she started rubbing my legs, that's all. it took rubbing my legs and pantyhows and it was like let's fuck right so um that was our first hookup and it was our first naughty hookup yeah nobody knew about yeah and how did you feel after because you didn't mention before like afterwards i felt during and before i was so

thrilled but after i came and i was on my way home i'm like what did I just do? Right. Because now you're in reality. You're back in reality. You just cheated on your wife. Right. With your best friends.

My best friend's wife. Yeah, it's bad. It's really bad. My wife's sitting at home right now thinking I'm somewhere else. Yeah. And your friends at work thinking, right? I mean, there's a lot there to think about it and feel bad about it. Right.

And so, you know, me and Amy texts a little bit, you know, And it wasn't sexual. And it didn't get sexual again for, say about three months. And then it slowly turned sexual again. You know what I mean? That itch for them panty house came back and she wanted to get fucked by me again. And it was like, all right, here we go again. I'm going to go fuck my best friend's wife again while my wife is sitting at home.

And neither one know about it. Yeah. And no, I'm assuming no swapping's going on. that you guys are all a part of, right, within this three-month period? The last, so the swapping. Yeah. Stopped again for about another two years. Okay.

After the incident of me not being able to get hard. Mm-hmm. But yeah. So during this time, right, you start to hook up. So that second time you go back, it's after three months. Yes. Mm-hmm. And then that became a time.

consistent. It was like three, every three to six months, you know, we would text every couple days through the week just talking, having, you know, nothing got sexual. But every three to six months, that conversation would slowly get sexual, slowly get sexual. And then until I got to the point where like, so when are we meeting that? Because this is getting too much. Right. So like I said, every three to six months and then two years between the swap where I couldn't get hard and the swap that I'm going to tell you about next was me and Amy just looking up by ourselves. Right. On the download, no one ever found out. It was always behind their backs. Yes. Okay. So me and Amy do this for about a year and a half, right?

and I tell her about my bisexuality. Now, you had told your wife already, right? Yes, I told my wife about it, and my wife's response was, well, I don't know what you want me to do about that. She said, I can't do nothing about that. I said, there are things we can do about it. There are things you don't want to do about it. Right.

And she goes, right. And I said, okay, that's what. fine. So then I say, well, let's try this out with Amy. She was fine with the panty hose. Let's see how she is with my bisexuality. Right. So you tell her. So I tell her 100% fine with it. So I say, can we try something? And she goes, what do you want to try? And I say, can we tell John about this and tell him, or my wife had had plans to go out of town for the holiday, after the holidays to visit family. And I said, let's ask John about just the three of us hooking up.

And she goes, let's try it. So I talked to John, like I said, he's been my best friend since freshman year of high school. I can tell this guy anything I need to tell him. Right. So I say, I want to tell you something, and I don't want it to change our relationship. And he said, what's that? And I said, I'm bisexual. And I really want to try something and I want to try it with you.

And he goes, well, I'm not sure. I said, I understand that it's kind of not your thing. And he goes, no, not really. And I said, when my wife goes out of town in a couple weeks, can me, you and Amy get together and kind of just see, what happens. And he happened and he's like, yeah, sure,

let's, let's try it. Okay. I was like, yes. I counted down the days to this night, right? Oh, yeah. Wait, one second. People hate me that I interrupt,

but I don't fucking care. I need scale of one to ten of all the players in this story. And listen, I have this new feature where on my Patreon page, I post anonymous pictures of people. Nothing pornographic, PG-13, but no, and no faces.

It's anonymous, you know, so hopefully you're going to send me some picks of the players of this. But let me ask you one scale of one to ten. You know, is your friend, like were you always attracted to him? Is Amy fucking hot? Like, what about your wife? Give me a number for each person, including yourself. Okay. I'm going to say John is not horrible, but he's not a super model.

I would say he's like a six, a seven. Okay. But what attracts me to him is I can trust him and I've been around him for so long that I just feel comfortable around him. You know what I mean? I feel like I could do anything. Right.

Amy, I would say she's an eight. Okay, that's good. That's above average. My wife, I would say, is an eight. I would say that I'm a six or a seven. We out-ticked our coverage when it come to our women. You dated up And they dated down

Okay Right Okay So Where was I Okay I know where you are So you

Yeah You're having this threesome now Now the only one That doesn't know about this one Is your wife Is my wife Okay And

So I'm so excited My wife gets in the car to leave And she Goes up the road 10 minutes She has my kid with her and they stopped to get gas

and my kid starts throwing up all over the car. Oh, no. And I'm like, this is the whole situation all over again. Like, nothing ever works out the way I planned it. Right, this is as bad as you can't get it up. Right, right. So they come home. I'm stuck at home with a kid throwing up all day.

I'm gone from full sex mode. Now I'm into dad mode. You're like so mad at your child, so I'm sure. Oh. I love my kid. Of course. I understand. Yeah.

I was like, what are you doing to me? Cockblock. Right. So then I told you we swapped again probably two years. This was probably a year and a half of me and Amy together. Yeah. And then two years later or six months later, we had planned another swap. I had begged John to do this again, just the three of us, for a good six months.

And it never happened. We could never find the right time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this next swap that we planned, we were all going camping together. With your wife? And then with my wife. My wife was going. It was going to be the four of us.

And we were going to swap. One was going to stay on one side of the camper. We were going to stay on the other side of the camper. and we were just going to stay the night together. You know, I was going to stay with Amy. She was going to stay with John. Okay. Oh, so you're doing full swap.

This isn't a three-way now without your wife. No. Not at the moment. Okay. Go on. So me, John, and Amy were in a volleyball league on Friday night. My wife was always there and watched us play. So we left the volleyball court and we went to the campground.

well, we're sweaty and sandy, and the three of us have to go take a shower. And, you know, I didn't think nothing of it. I'm walking up with John and Amy to the showers, and all the showers are locked but one. So I'm just standing out in the hallway while they go in. And John looks at me and goes, are you coming in here? And I'm like, okay. And still, I'm like, my mind isn't in sex mode yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I'm oblivious. I get in the shower. I take my shower real quick while they're still getting undressed. And I go back and start getting dressed. And he goes, what are you doing? And I said, I'm going back to the campground. He goes, I thought we were going to do this thing tonight. And I said, oh, really?

So I stripped my clothes right back off and I'm back in the shower with him. Right. And it's just the three of us at this point. My wife's sitting at the campground. Oh, my God. I'd never imagine that that was going to happen because we didn't talk about that. We talked about him being with my wife and me being with his wife for the night. Right.

But this is what you've been waiting for for so long. Right. And I'm glad it happened that way, so I didn't have to wait. Yeah. So I'm in the shower, and he starts doing Amy from behind. and she's bent over and she starts sucking my dick. And I'm like, okay, it's just going to be me fucking Amy and him fucking Amy. Yeah.

And then as he's fucking hurt, he reaches up and grabs my dick. Uh-huh. And I'm like, I'm in heaven. I'm like, this is what I've been wanting to do. Yeah. I didn't care who it was with at this point. I've been waiting to be with a man and a woman and not care who's touching who or who's fucking who. Like, this is what I've been waiting for.

So as he does that, I'm like, all right, my brain is clicked. I'm ready to go. Like, I'm doing anything I can right now. So I start sucking his dick and fingering Amy. And I can't believe this is happening still. I'm like out of my mind with excitement. Yeah. So then I get to the point, I suck his dick, I finger Amy, and then I stand up and I start fucking Amy, and she's bent over sucking his dick.

I'm so excited that by the time I pump in her four or five times, I'm done. because I wasn't expecting this and all this blood is rushed to my penis. And it's, so I had my fun time. I'm like, I don't know if it'll ever happen again. We go back to the camper. I get into bed with Amy. My wife gets into bed with John. And we do our swat for the night.

We swap, we have sex, we spend the night with each other's wife in the camper. Mm-hmm. So, of course, that next. day or well that next week while at work i'm texting john i'm like that was amazing can we try that again like where it's not so rushed not having somebody sitting at the campground waiting for us to get back yeah you know he's like we'll see we'll see and he drugged me on this we'll see game for probably another six months until my wife was going back out of town again for another holiday.

And I'm like, this kid better not get sick because the first place I'm going is over to John and Amy's house. Yeah. So they leave and I start this path to their house and I go to John and Amy's at home. John's at home in the bed playing video games. Amy's still at work. I'm like, this could work out. I go and lay in John and Amy's bed while he's.

He's playing video games sitting on the bed. Amy comes home, and she lays in the bed. And she goes, give me a back rub. And I look at John and I say, is that all right? Can I give your wife a backrup? And he goes, you know I don't care. Cool. So I'm rubbing her back.

And I start getting lower and lower. And I said, can I rub your wife's ass? And he goes, I don't care to. Do what you want to do. So I start rubbing her ass while he's sitting there playing video games. And I finally worked my way down lower and lower, and I get to her pussy, and I finger a little bit. Well, we had reservations to a restaurant, just the three of us, because we were hanging out for the night, whatever. We go out, and I'm like, this is going to happen again tonight.

Right. So we have our fun. We drink a little bit, and then we go back to his house, and we're hanging out. And I said, I'm making my move. this is going down tonight without without any question. So I go and I sit in John's lap and I start rubbing his cock.

And then Amy's sitting there and she's seeing all this and she kind of scoots over and she goes, let's go to the bedroom. And I'm like, excellent. Everything's coming. Everything's coming together. Yeah.

So this is the first, this is how I realize I am bisexual, but I am a bottom. Right. I love shit in my, or, well, let me do you think that. I love things in my ass. Yes. I love things in my ass.

Yeah, okay. I, uh, I, uh, start fucking Amy. Mm-hmm. And I feel a finger slide into my ass, a lubed finger slide into my ass. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, oh, I can get, I like, I dig this. I like it. Yeah.

And so I feel another finger in my ass. And I kind of look back and I'm like, just do it. So he got, I'm deep into his wife and he gets behind me and he starts fucking me in the ass. Mm-hmm. And this is, when I said that I had an amazing first time in the showers, like that was one of my most amazing times. Yeah. When he started fucking me in my ass when I'm fucking his wife. Yeah.

it was like nothing I have ever felt before. Yeah. Like I knew I had loved, like I had been bisexual and I wanted to do things with men. Mm-hmm. But that turned me on to, there's times that I don't need a woman to be there. I want to be fucked in the ass. Right. There's times that I just want to be gay.

Right. Mm-hmm. So other, other, that night right there was like a clicking point for me. Right. And, you know. When you realize like how much you liked being a bottom, like, what was the click? Yeah. It clicked that I, that I, I could just, I mean, I love women.

Yeah. But if I had to, I could be in a relationship with just a man. Right. That was the top of the mountain for you. That was what you preferred. right but I mean that will never happen because like I said I love my wife I'll never leave my wife no matter what happens I will stick it through with my wife and I can handle just being fucked in the ass every once in a while right I got it okay and I've gotten to the point where I've

asked my wife well can we try a strap on I said I yeah I've told you I'm bisexual I said I enjoy she is gay or gave way a little bit and she has fingered my ass a few times but we have not worked up to a strap on yet right so

of course now I'm texting Amy we're getting sexual again and I say hey if John don't want to fuck would you fuck me with the strap on oh here we go with Amy

to the rescue. It's terrible to say. Amy is, I tell you what. I've gotten to the point with Amy. Yeah. Where I have my wife as my soulmate. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure Amy is my sexual soulmate. Right, right, right. It's like sister wives, right? I mean, it's like you have, like she's like your other half. I mean, she's like doing for you what your wife can. I mean, it's terrible. There's people listening that are judging, right?

And they're like, oh, absolutely. I know I'm getting judged hardcore. Yeah, it's okay. But no, but I mean, it's crazy because, like, here, like, this is what you want, right? And your wife's like, eh, I'll put a finger in, whatever. And then again, Amy steps in, like I said, to quote unquote, save the day. She's like, okay, I'm down. Right.

And Amy is, like, she's like, I don't understand if you're a partner enjoy something. then why not do it are amy and your wife really close as girlfriends or are they only like friendly when you guys get together no i mean they go out to dinner together so they're close they go out and have girls they're best friends too i mean yeah interesting so it's yeah but this is i'll tell you how good of friends they are yeah i didn't put this in there earlier but john when he he comes to sex when it comes to sex, other than our little three ways that we had. Yeah. He's a lot like my wife when it comes to sex.

Okay. He could take it or leave it. Okay. He gets a wild hair up his ass every once in a while. Yeah. So one day, Amy was bitching to my wife about not having enough sex. Mm-hmm. My wife said, why don't I send Jake over there?

And you can just have sex with him. Okay. Is that like a joke? Amy's telling me this. Like, I didn't know that my wife was offering me up. Yeah. Like, she's my jiggle-o now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then did you take, did you dig out? You know, my wife finally tells me, she goes, hey, I just want you to know, I told Amy that I would give you to her for sex because John isn't having sex with her. And I played it off. Like, I had no idea what she was talking about. I'm like, what? And I said, obviously that's not going to happen. She goes, no, I really don't care. She goes, she's going to tell me when she's free one night and you can go have sex with her.

That's your ticket right there. That's great because then you don't have to be cheating. Right. I said, what's the deal? Like, what's the catch? She goes, there is no catch. She goes, she's my best friend. She needs sex.

John's not giving it to her. I offered you up. Right. Maybe on some level. She also doesn't know, she's not, you know, she doesn't want to service you as much either, and she's, you know, going to let Amy do some work for her. You know what I mean? Right.

Yeah. You know, that's what I kind of assume. Yeah. Because my white motto has become, well, it's just sex. Right. It's just, you know. Yeah. And I said, well, that's fine.

If you don't care that I'm having sex with somebody else, then I will go. go have sex with somebody else. Right. And but, you know, it's with, but I'm not going to tell you about it because it feels weird to me to say,

hey, I'm going over to Amy's house and I'm going to have sex with her doing. You know what I mean? No, but let me ask you this. When you said, okay,

like, well, so wait, so like in reality, what actually happened? Did you say, okay, I'll go to Amy's house tomorrow?

I mean, what happened after that when she put that out there? So when she put that out there, I was like, this is never going to happen. Mm-hmm. And maybe three,

days later after the after she had told me that she'd told amy yeah i'm laying in bed almost asleep and she goes hey amy just text and she wants you to go fuck her and i said you're full of shit and she sends me a screenshot of the text and i said you really want me to go do that right now and she goes i don't care i told you i told you that it's between you two i don't have an issue and i said okay okay that's what's going to happen yeah i'm like to me So I don't know if I took advantage of a situation, but to me that one time kind of greenlit going more than the one time. Well, but let me ask.

If she's telling me it's just sex, she don't care if I go have sex with Amy because she knows that me and Amy are going to run away together. Yeah, but let me ask you this. Why didn't you have the, did you, okay, you go and have sex with her that night, right? Your wife's that with your wife's consent. That's a first, right? Let's talk that out. Okay, so that happens. You come home.

Is your wife sleeping? Is she up? Does she ask questions? Is there any talk about it? Like, what happens after that first time where things, you know, shift a little? Okay. So she was still awake. My wife's a night owl.

Okay. I'm in bed by 9 o'clock. She's in bed by 12, 1 o'clock. Right. Right. Okay. So I get up. I go have sex with Amy.

And I get back. And she goes, did you have fun? And I'm like, I mean, how do I answer this without pissing her off? I feel like this is a loaded question. I still feel like I'm in a trap. Yeah, you know, it's too good for you to be true for you. Right. So I said, I mean, yeah, I told her I said it wasn't as fun as like if I had sex with you.

Oh, God. I mean, I had just had sex. It was good. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So that was about the whole just of that conversation. Okay.

I gave her a kiss. I went, laid back down, went to. went to bed. Mm-hmm. So, like I said, that kind of gave me the green light in my head. I don't know if I just tried to justify it, but she told me this one time, and she never said, I only want you to do this one. She said, it's just sex.

If you want to go have sex with Amy, go have sex with Amy. Right. And I said, are you sure? She goes, absolutely. She goes, I told her I would let her borrow you. Mm-hmm. Okay. So, I mean, in my head, she never told me to stop, so I haven't stopped.

Okay, how long ago? Right, no, no, no, but how long ago, what's wrong? I'll tell you what's wrong about that situation. There's only, there's something wrong with that situation. But wait, I need to know timeline, though. How long ago did she say, did she give you that okay to go, fuck Amy? How many years and months? Yeah.

I would say that was three years ago. Okay. So three years ago, did it ever come up again with her and Amy that Amy wants, like that that scenario ever come up again where she pawned you off to go over to Amy's house? My wife has not since that time told me to go to Amy's house. Okay. Now let me ask you this. Have you guys done any swap since then? We have not.

The last swap was at the campground. What did I say? That was four or five years ago. Okay. And now let me ask you this. Have you done threesomes with your friend and Amy again? Yes. We've done,

I would say we've done the threesome maybe four times since that last swap where it first started in the shower. Mm-hmm. And now did your wife ever... My wife goes out of town. Okay, you do. My wife goes out of town.

My first stop is to John and Amy's house. Okay. And you do that little swap with that, with a threesome. And does he always... Are you always the bottom? Does he fuck you in the ass? Did you get that?

Yeah. He's not, like I said, I would say he's heteroflexible. He's not bisexual. Right. Uh-huh. And I think if anybody else was to try to do something with him, I don't think he would do it. Right. I think his situation is kind of like mine.

We've been together for so long. It's kind of easy to do something between the two of us. Right. Yeah. Because listen, I mean, he always waits all that time and you kind of had to like wait a while. I mean, if he was really into it and very by, there wouldn't be some. six months in between those hookups, right? You know?

So yeah, that sounds right. So, but let me ask you, it's like you had the perfect in, right? There's like windows of opportunity that come, right? That, and you had a window of opportunity. You had a window of opportunity when Amy texted your wife and she gave you the okay to go over and fuck her for you to bring it up and make this thing with Amy that you have. an okay thing by like talking more about it and saying like hey like I did that like could we do that again

like you know you tiptoed around it so much and you really couldn't believe that she was cool with it that you just like sort of blew it off and just continued to do it with her on the downlow right so you still see her for the past three years all the time um I would say me and Abley hook up together maybe monthly or bi-monthly. Now, does her husband know? Yes. He knows now. Her husband knows.

He's absolutely like, I'm like, hey, I'm going to go fuck your wife. And he's like, I don't care. And I'm like, are you serious? He's like, yep. I say, okay. Okay, but this is why I feel bad for your wife, though, because she's the only one that isn't sort of given that respect, right? Like you're okay, like you're okay and you feel comfortable and you believe that your friend's okay with it, right?

But your wife was like, I'm fucking okay with it. It happened, but you still don't, she's not in the now. And I think that's what would be most devastating for her if she found out. Because here you have four people that are really fucking good friends and she's the only one left out of. all this openness and honesty that's going on. You know, even John was a little fucked for a while. He was left out, right? You and Amy were being naughty.

But now he's in the no. And it doesn't make sense that your wife's not in the know. Because she let you fucking know. She doesn't care. You had the perfect opportunity to, you know, open that door and make it totally okay instead of just assuming quote unquote like you said. I just assume when she said that it gave me the right. But you know for a fact,

you know on some level that you didn't really fully bring it up. And maybe it's because you had a fear in you that she would say like, no, that's not what I don't want you do it all the time and then you'd feel more guilty. You don't know what you didn't want to ruin the status quo with what you got going on. I don't know why you didn't take that opportunity. It might just be because you're a guy and you're fucking stupid. You know, guys are dumb sometimes.

That's probably more of the cases. Yeah, guys don't. Like, to me, I see, like, a communication opportunity right there, and I just think that men don't get that thing, you know. Women do. And I just, so for me, I'm like, oh, my God, you know, why didn't you take that opportunity? And you really should, because I feel bad for your wife that she,

like I said, she's the only one in this situation that isn't, hasn't been given the truth. And what sucks about that is because she could, handle the truth. So, you know, so it's almost worse because it's like, why the fuck, like, did you lie to me when, like, I was so cool with everything? You know, it doesn't make sense. Like, I dated a guy once who was doing all kinds of drugs in front of me. And then I found out after we broke up years later that he was also doing heroin. He was snorting heroin behind my back, but he didn't tell me that. So I would have never thought like that he was, you know what I'm

saying but there was something that didn't make sense and it doesn't I never would have thought there was another drug because I was he was so open about that and I was like I don't fucking care what you do I was drunk myself you know what I'm saying so if for her she would probably never think that this is going on right I don't know I really think there's no reason why she shouldn't fucking no and because you know your wife is still young okay I get that she's had kids and she lost touch with like her sexual side of herself but she could get that back and you know i think that you know you want to be there when she gets that back right okay oh absolutely i would love to like i said i would love to do all this stuff like yeah or other stuff yeah but also like you don't

i mean you really and if she knows that you're doing with the amy thing like maybe on some level that could even turn her on who knows i don't know know, but like, she should, she should be in the now. It's, it's time to sit down and have a conversation. Well, but you don't have, like, listen, you're not going to, you're not going to tell her, oh, I've been fucking Amy. Is that cool? Right.

No. You have to say, remember that time? I mean, how long ago was it again? The first time she, or the only time she sent me over there like that was, I think I said, I think that was three years ago. Well, can you even say to Amy, like, Amy, get that going again. with my wife. Like, I mean, obviously they were having conversations that, you know what I'm saying?

Like, that. You know, I have. I've told Amy, I said, why don't you start bitching about your sex life again? Yeah, and what is Amy said? And she goes, I don't know what switched about it. She goes, man, I have a hard time bringing it up to not the having sex part, but the borrowing me. And I don't know why, like.

Yeah, why is it both of you? It's like a block. Yeah, why? Do you guys, let me ask you this. Is it like more fun to do it without your wife knowing at some level? Without our partners? No. Without your wife knowing?

You know, I don't think, I really don't think that has something to do, anything to do with it. Right. My wife's not knowing it. Maybe that. I would actually feel more comfortable if she did know, but I, there's some block in my brain. I think because you guys are so used to doing it the way. you guys do it. You probably enjoy it.

You probably feel like, you know, if you sat your wife down or she asked again and your wife said, no, I'm not fucking into it, you guys might think twice before moving ahead. And you probably neither one of you want to say no to each other, right? You want to keep it status quo, right? So you kind of like don't want to upset the apple cart kind of thing. That's probably what's going on. I think you're more right along the lines of that. Because that makes more sense

You know how many times I thought in my head I'm like Why can't I just tell her Like she says this shit to me all the time Well go find somebody to have sex with you The way you want to have sex Okay okay so now that's not Why can I just say

Okay let me could I do it with Amy Because I don't really want to be with someone I don't know It could get complicated Say so let's just like Maybe we could set it up with Amy Why don't you see something like that Like I don't want to go with the girl I don't know what if she cop's feelings

Like it's like, why don't I just do it with Amy? Like, maybe she still wants to do it. Like, how about that? Can you set that up with Amy? Can you ask her? Like, you know, you got to take that opportunity again when that conversation comes up and you got to get that back on the table. And when it comes back on the table, you got to make it an okay thing. And your wife needs to get into this.

It needs to be a four way, completely open and honest. relationship with the all of you because right now it's not fair for her it's not i agree i agree and and you know i think a lot of it is i just need to put my big boy pants on and just man up and ask her when she tells me that like i don't i don't know why it's like a mental block in my head like i want to say it so bad when she goes when she says yeah well i don't mind if you went and found somebody else. Why don't I say, well, I feel like when I say, what about Amy, she's going to, I don't know why. I just feel like something's going to go wrong, but I know it won't. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's, it won't. You got to just say it because you could talk your way out of it, okay? Like you said,

you and your way for best friends. You fucked Amy a million times. She's been there. She's fucked Amy somebody. It's not going to cause a divorce. It's not going to cause her to get mad at you. I mean, come on. Right. All it's going to cause. And this is why I think it's like your biggest fear is if you have this 1% chance that she's going to say, no, I don't want it to be Amy. And then you're going to not feel right. Do you know what I mean? All the guilt and everything's going to come back. And then it's going to kind of be like right there.

And then you're really cheating. Whereas if you never have that conversation, you could live in this place that you live now, which is I just assume it's okay because she told me that one time. Right. Yeah. That's, you know, I think that's pretty spot on. of what you're faith. Yeah.

So, but it's, but, you know, I think, like I said, it's one percent chance she's going to say no. Oh, I believe you're spot on there too because I don't, you know, she'll make jokes. We'll be playing cards one night. Yeah. And she'll come down and me and Amy will be in the same room together. She goes, oh, of course you two are in the same room together by yourselves. Right. You know, and it's not, it's not snarky.

Yeah. It's. is there a chance let me ask you this is there a chance that she knows I believe that she knows is there a chance that Amy told her is it a chance that they're honest with each other and they're just not honest with you it's that's a that's a strong possibility it's a very strong possibility right so I guess I guess the main thing is that maybe that there's just a conversation that needs to be had.

Yes. Between me and my wife and then maybe all four of us together, to be honest. Yeah, I really think so. And I think so that, you know, it keeps everything in house. It never has to, you know, she never has to find out. Nothing has to go south because of this. And then when your wife starts to get horny again, you know, she's going to jump, jump right back in.

You mean? Like, you know, because she is going to. She's still young. It's not like she's in menopause and she needs to take hormone. You know, she's just lost her way because I've been a mom. I've talked about this. It's like a very unhot time. You know, it's hard when you're, you know, and it's very easy for a woman to lose

a sense of that. But let me tell you, how old's your wife? How old? She is in her mid-30. She's 33. Yeah. Well, wait until she gets to, like, her best years are yet to come. come, okay? When you start to get like 38, 39, 40, women are whorenier than they've ever been,

okay? So your wife's going to come back around, okay? She's going to have that time again. So, you know, you want to, uh, every, you want this whole situation to still be intact. You don't want it to ever blow up because you have like, I mean, it almost, it sounds like a made up story. Like there's people listening to this like that wish they could, this could happen for them. It's like it happened by accident when you're 18 and it only, progressed forward in a positive way, except the one negative is that, like I said, this dishonesty that's going on, and it was with your friend, but now he's in the know and the fact that your wife is the only one left out. I just think you have to correct that. Yeah, I need to bring her back into

the loop and it needs to be a four-way discussion as it used to be. Yeah, and that's it. And then you could do all the stuff and everything. And then, like I said, she's going to come back around. Trust me. Right. And she's going to be into it. and everything's going to be good, but God forbid. I don't know. Like, would she care? I don't know if it even would be a deal breaker after all that you guys have been through and everything if she found out.

But, you know, wouldn't you rather be doing it with her okay? Yes. Yeah. And, you know, I don't, like you said, I think there's a lot of thoughts going through her head. And I think she knows. And it could be her and Amy talking. I think that she knows what happened.

Yeah. She might not know the length of the strap on the bisexual threesomes with John. But I think that she knows there is hooking up happening. Mm-hmm. And I think she's okay. And I'm almost certain she's okay with that. Right. But why don't you ask her?

I mean, don't say, are you okay with we are? Or why don't you, you know, try to have more talk about, like, why don't you talk a little bit more about this? I don't think you're going to upset any. thing. I don't think, you know, I think it could only help. The only thing that could upset what you have going now is if the chance that she, yeah, absolutely. And why would you ever want to ruin what you have? You got it fucking made. I do. And I, and I'm thankful for the way things have always turned out. Yeah, because like I said. She's going to be fine with it. She's going to be fine with it. Like I said, I just think it's, I think it sucks for her because it seems so obvious that she is okay with it yet like I said you just kept her out so that would be the

thing that she would be upset about like if if you know there's a lot of different things that could be going on here right but if she really has no idea you know and then she finds out she'd be like like why didn't you trust me like I didn't even care it would be I don't know it would be like it would be more about the deceitfulness of it you know and that that's what you don't want to ever be because she is your best friend and you totally love her and there's no reason for that because you don't lie to a woman like your wife who's basically you know really sort of late I get she doesn't want to wear panty hose who cares she she let you go fuck her friend that does you know and she would even more so I mean you really have a good catch everything's great

when you're at so that's what I wanted to start this show off and the first thing I wanted to say was my wife is my best friend and my wife is like So keep it that way Be cool with your best friend Don't keep this from her That's not cool Right Do you know what I mean? That's what's not cool

Yep Especially because she is fucking cool She's been open Who cares that she doesn't wear painio She's one woman that doesn't have to worry about that Because she's the kind of woman that will be like Go get it to go fuck my friend Amy Okay and she could do it for you

Right So so So she's the top of the mountain okay that doesn't get any better than your wife so you know be cool be loyal be everything that you are to everybody else to her and the next time these little things get thrown out there just let it be on the and maybe she'll be like hey babe I know I don't like I know you've been fucking her all this time just keep doing it who like you just need that and I want to know what happens do you know I need to I need that too because like I said I feel bad for her and I if she that she that she

She's not in the know. And she should be. Yeah, she should be. She's a part of this whole thing. She's always been right in the middle of everything with you guys. But she at some point started to get left behind. And I know if that was me, I'd be pissed. Like, why the fuck?

You know what I mean? Yeah. And like I said, I think it was more of it when she became, when it became vanilla. Yeah. I thought that she was done with any sexual adventures. and that means, man, I had to be done. Right. But it's not been that way.

It's always, well, go fuck somebody. Go find that. Right. Like you said, it's never been, it's always been Amy that I go to, but it's never been in my brain to say, go tell her, like, hey, I want you to know that it's Amy that, or can it be Amy that I'm doing this with? Yeah. That way I'm not going to some bar hooking up with some random shit. It's somebody that we've done stuff with multiple times. Yeah, and just say I feel more comfortable because I know that that makes you more comfortable.

And you know, she's with my best friend. And there's no copping feelings or anything. Like, this is just a thing, you know. And I think she'd be happy about that. She obviously trusts Amy with her man. I think it's a lot different if it was a strange woman that you're going to go out with or something. So I think she'd be happy that you wanted to keep it in house. It's all been there, done that.

And there's nothing new. You're dropping on her. All you're telling her is that, like, you want to take her up on her off or more times than once. Right. And like I said, that was her thing when I was questioning the first time she sent me over there. Yeah. Was, are you sure about this?

And she's like, yes, it's Amy. I'm not worried about it. She goes, I know it's going to be sex. And I know that you're coming home. Right. And she goes, I know that it's not somebody that you're going to run off with. Right. So that's what you use when you, when she brings it up again and say,

blah, blah, but yeah, but the only one I'd fuck, it's Amy, because, you know, it is just sex and I don't want to meet someone I don't know and everything. And so you're, and she'd be like, yeah, fine. You'd be like, okay. Like, could I just go do like Panningo stuff with her, see if she's into it? You know, just get it. Talk a little bit more. Look at how excited you were to call into my show and tell me all your fucking shit. Right.

To communicate with her. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's definitely. The next step. Yeah, that's the only... To open my wife into this.

Yeah, that's the only thing in this whole story. Like I said, that is a little bit off. And you need to fix that, you know? Like, you really should fix that. But this was like a great episode. I love the story. It's so fascinating. Like I said, I was a little confused when you were like, I don't know, all these things.

You know, you sent me a very short email about some stuff. But the, you know, to really sit down and hear. the whole thing. It's like fucking fascinating. What a great story. That's what I said in my email. It's easier to say it than it is for me to type it out. I can explain it. I don't like. No, I hate when people type it out. I tell people less is more. Like seriously, I don't, I love nothing more than to get on the phone with a total stranger and then just like start going with it. A lot of people will be like, oh, you interrupt or you do that. And it's like, yeah, duh, I'm having a, I'm like having a conversation with people because I actually enjoy talking to

people. So yeah, I am going to interrupt them. Not just a recording. like letting people talk about their stories. Like, I'm interested in me. I like, I like human nature. You know what I mean? It's what I'm curious about. I don't ever have even questions written down. I just,

I just ask what's in my head because I'm like naturally curious, genuinely interested in what my callers are saying. So that's why I fucking interrupt because, you know, it's like a real conversation. I would rather have you interrupt me and have a conversation

than me trying to just babble on a story. Yeah. And me, you're going and circles. I'd rather have you interrupt and ask them questions. Exactly. But I do that because like I said, I love these. I love stories. I find people interesting. I think life is interesting. When stuff is like, this is this was a great one. Like seriously. Like thank you so much for calling in. I want the update with what happens when please take that next window of opportunity. It will come up again.

Fucking talk more. Communicate more. Let me know what goes on. And please, if you can, send me a non- If you want, you don't have to. I mean, this is not, this is just the thing. I'm asking people now, you know. I'm not doing it on my Patreon and it's like all the, you know, if you, you know, all the heads, I keep it in line with my show. It's anonymous, no faces, heads chopped off, faces blacked out, whatever you want to do, you know, but if you want to sit in picks of the players, you can.

But if you don't, it doesn't matter, okay? Okay. All right. Thank you, Jake. This was awesome. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession. Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available, not only in paperback and e-book, but you can

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