Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 392 - Dr. Guy and his Girlfriend Have Threesomes, Foursomes, Orgies and More

Episode Date: May 31, 2021

Dr. Guy and his girlfriend have threesomes, foursomes, orgies and more and he calls in to talk all about it. Where do they meet the people they swing with? Do they prefer couples or singles? What exactly goes down at their hook ups? Tune in for all the details which include how and why transforming himself helped him attract his perfect match, their rules they have while swinging, how they go about picking people up while out and about, the two squirting college girls they f****** in Miami and what went down with them, the all male orgy his girlfriend had that included brothers, her incest fantasies and how they've played them out with women, how she wanted to f*** his brother and whether it ever happened, their famous porn star friend and what they do with her, how far he's gone with guys , the issues and insecurities that have come up for them when swinging and how they resolved them and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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His other episodes are fucking great, okay? Like entertaining. He's an entertaining, funny guy. He's also a friend. I also fucked him and dated him for a very short time. one of his first episodes when he came on, Dr. Guy's a total womanizer, we talked all about our relationship. And then it's really, what's interesting about his, all of his episodes is you really see a progression to this guy because we've been, I've been doing my show for seven years.

He's come on like, you know, like four years ago, maybe five years ago, six years ago. I don't know. Yeah, I met him right before my son. So he's been coming on my show, you know, for the past six years. So there's a lot of changes that have happened to him. He is currently, in a relationship with a girl that is as sexually insatiable as he is? Is that the right word? I don't know if that's right grammar. But she is into sex as much as he is. They are swingers. They are hot. They fuck around with a lot of people. They've been fucking all through COVID. They have done orgies and twosomes and foursums. And we talk all about it. We spend the first, I would say, maybe 10 or 12 minutes of the podcast, talking about his progression, talking about how he went from

being like this buttoned up preppy doctor guy to, you know, a guy that's full of tats and in the swingers lifestyle and traveling around the world, fucking millions of people and force and and sorts of. And these kind of swingers, this is not the swingers that everyone's like, oh, they're like, I don't know, unattractive. I think people have like an idea in their head of swingers. But these people, okay? the people that they talk about. These people are all 10 point a million, okay? They're all hot of shit. You'll see, you'll be, see anonymous pegs. His girlfriend is coming on the show next week. Okay. She's taped, going to be on the show next week. She has a new bikini line, so you'll be

able to see all her bikinis or hot bikinis. But that's next week. But today he talked, we do spend, like I said, at the beginning of the podcast talking about his transition from being that really super duper preppy guy to who he is now, which is himself, right? And I think that kind of stuff is really fascinating and you should listen to that. And then we get into all his hot stories. Like I said, they've been fucking through COVID. They're into incest fantasies. She loves to fuck brothers and fathers and sons and they do, like I said, orgies with multiple women. Her favorite thing is more than one guy. So, you know, the foursome sometimes have been just him and two other guys or three other guys.

She once went in Miami. I think she fucked five guys and two brothers. Like, you got to listen. He talks about all these stories. And then, like I said, he's going to touch upon some of those stories about her. And then she's going to give you the full details when I talk to her next week. But he's, you know, I'm just going to get right to the episode because he's super fascinating. You're going to really enjoy it.

So I'm going to be right back on with Dr. Guy. Hey, Dr. Guy. I, welcome back to the Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you? good good good to be back yeah good to be back because you've been

like it's COVID right and sort of I would say towards the end of it but for the whole time because I live in New York I know you you're a friend of mine right but you've been on the show too

you're a guest as well you've been out and about partying it up living a life with no masks no cares in the world you've been like you know the outlier as far as COVID times

right yeah I mean I mean we still have to wear masks oh really well I don't see those Uber yeah of course most of the world, even when you travel, they make you wear masks.

You know, obviously, go on the plane, the airport, the Uber's. Okay, well, let me cut you off, because this is what I do

and I know people, I cut them off even more. No, but like I got to say, when you were in Tulum and when you were in Miami, there's not a fucking mask in sight. There's just techno music

and a lot of people dancing and people having fun, right? Yeah, yeah. It's, yeah, there's normal parties where people

are wearing masks. and they're interacting and they're not six feet apart. Yeah, and everyone's just having fucking fun. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm excited to have you back on because a lot of people, you're like their

favorite guest. You're one of my favorite guests. I think you're fucking interesting and hilarious. You also lead a very interesting lifestyle when it comes to dating and sex, right? And you're, like, and, you know, sort of how you got there, because I met you, when you were one person, which was a facade, right? And then you morphed into who you really are, which I think is typically like it happens backwards, right?

You meet like, or no, maybe that is the way it always goes. I don't know. But, I mean, you really came into your own and you're much more of who you are now, right? And your outside now matches your inside, whereas when I met you before, your outside really did not match up with your inside. I personally preferred your outside better before because you look, literally completely different, okay, than when I first met you. In every way, shape, or form.

And what I love about my show now, why I'm so excited to have you back on is because I do picks now. I do anonymous picks. I'm still not going to change your face. But you don't even need to see your face to see the transformation. It's all in the fucking clothes. It's in the face, too, because there's like facial hair, long hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But trust me. The tattoos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the tattoos. But they could get the tattoos in the anonymous. I'm going to post. I'm going to have anonymous picks of Dr. Guy. You're going to see an anonymous picks of Dr. Guy when I met him. Just body down, but you're going to see like how he dressed, how he presented himself. And then you're going to fucking see him now. Okay. Now you look like a guru, a shwami, uh, fucking, I don't know what like a, I don't know what you look like. Like,

you know, somebody that I would hike up to Machu Picchu and you. you would, you know, give me a tour. Yeah. And when I first met you, you were kind of preppy. I don't know. I liked you way better then, but now, so many people like you, you're still getting laid like crazy. You're in a great relationship.

That's another, like, interesting progression for you that I've seen as your friend, right? And people could hear that progression on my podcast, too, right? Because you went through a lot of girls. You were fucking a lot of people. You were cheating. You were married two times. all your backstories and all the episodes, right? But eventually, because you became more of who you are, right?

You wound up meeting a woman that is completely your match. And you don't cheat on her because you don't have to cheat on her because you guys fuck other people all the fucking time. She likes it, you like it, you're on the same page. And this is not a new thing. We know this is working because this is like now a couple of years, right? How long have you been dating her? You guys were on the show together.

So I'm going to give links to all of your guys episodes before. And we're going to have her on separately too because she's fucking even more fascinating than you. And I want a whole episode with her. But how long have you guys been dating for? We've been together almost three years now. It'll be three years and two weeks. Yeah. And that's great because, you know, I spoke with you guys.

I think the last episode or maybe one of them I spoke with you guys. When you guys just started your relationship and who knows how, like when you talk to a couple early on and like, yeah, we're all fucking other people and it's great. You know, a lot of people might be like, oh, yeah, but let's see how long that lasts, right? But, you know, this is three years down the line and you guys are still going strong. You're still doing everything the way you did it and you're still super happy. So it is successful at this point. Yeah, I mean, this is the most unique relationship I've ever been in. It is not codependent, is not monogamous. Um, You know, it is truly an open and truthful relationship, you know, we're honest.

You know, I mean, obviously, there are emotions and there are things you navigate, you know, in any relationship, but I've never been in such a, you know, a truthful relationship where both of us are really who we are, completely, not, you know, not, because usually you have to change to be in a relationship, you know, and you have to alter your behavior and you've got to be on your best behavior. and that's why it lasts like six months a year and then people lose traction. Oh, but please. It's sometimes the last 10 years,

but it's miserable because you're doing that same shit. Yeah, yeah. It lasts longer, but you're being miserable. You're always the thing about it is, I got to get out of this relationship. Or you're cheating. Oh, you're cheating, yeah, yeah. And still, yeah, you're not happy.

Yeah, yeah. It doesn't be a double life. Because you did that. That's what I mean about your, you know, being your friend and watching this and being somebody who's just so curious about human nature. and just how people, you know, how people are and how people could change. And, you know, when I met you, like I said, you were just like this person who the outside did not match the inside.

And even though you've changed to something that on the outside, I don't like, it really matches who you are, right? I think a lot more than how you look before. And before, when I met you, you were right out of a divorce, your second divorce, or was it your third? Two, two, right? Second divorce. Yeah, second divorce. Four kids, two babies. And like these were long-term like marriages, but you were living like a completely double life.

And like I said, what I saw happen to you after, you know, we only fucked for a couple months. But like you went through, we stayed friends. And so I saw you go through all these other girls, you know, and then eventually also you were changing physically until you were really, you know, came into your own. And like you were really presenting as on the outside as who you are on the inside. And I think that's super important, right? because and that's when you met the girl that was you know that liked you for you because before if you walk into a bar and you're like a doctor and you're all dressed up preppy and clean shaven and clean cut you know you look like a certain type yet you're fucking everything that

walks on the side and you're partying and you want to you know you want to have threesomes and all this shit and it's just like who is that person right but now you kind of look like the type of guy that would do that which i think is super important and you know you You know, you met a girl who likes you as that person, and that had never happened to you before. And I think a lot of people don't believe that that's possible. I mean, your girl's a little bit of a unicorn, for sure. Yes, yeah. Not many girls are open sexually like her who have such positive energy.

I mean, you know, I mean, it's an amazing experience. I mean, we started out not really being boyfriend and girlfriend, just sexual partners. But you could feel, I mean, even the. first night we had sex, you know, a kiss, everything, we could feel the energy, the connection between us. And it's been three years and we have sex every day and at least once, about twice or three times a day, you know, plus sex with other people, plus there were swingers, obviously, but the sex every single time is mind flowing. It never fails. Yeah. And so when you have that kind of energetic connection, when you find that, there's nothing like it, because that anchors

your whole relationship. Because if you're not having sex together, which is in most relationships after a period of time, you know, the relationship falls apart. Because you're not really, you can't be spiritually, emotionally, physically, psychologically, involve that relationship if you're thinking of other people. If you don't want to be having sex with the other, you're your partner, or you're having very infrequently, you know, there's to be a problem and you're not going to be able to connect on so many other levels

because that is the basis of, believe it or not, you know, that is the most important, instinctual desire we have besides eating is sex and you can't fulfill that with your, the one you love and the one you care about and the one you're attached to, you're fought. Yeah, listen, when I was banging you, like, I remember looking you straight in the face

and being like, oh, like I need, there needs to be a second shift here. I couldn't please you as much as you wanted. I didn't have that kind of sex drive where I would want to fuck a guy three times a day every day. I'm not her age or that right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So you're like either if I'm going to stay with this guy, I have to let him fuck other people or I got to, like we have to be sister wives here, right? Because it's just not, you know, you just know on some level like I'm not going to be able to satisfy that person, but sometimes you still date that person, you're going to be insecure. Yeah. But there may be a guy who has its same exact energy. level. You know, like in a lot of it is our energy identical and connected.

It also cycles at the same frequency. So we feel the urge to party. We feel the urge to relax. We feel the urge to hike, to eat. To get in touch with nature. Right. Yeah. At the same time.

We cycle at the same time. We're completing each other. It's like this craziest thing, you know. And so when you let yourself come out fully, and truthfully as a human being and as an animal and, you know, allow it to happen naturally rather than, because most people go into a, you know, a clobber bar or dating or whatever it is, how you're meeting people, and they're assessing usually it starts with looks, and they're looking at money, then they're looking at cultural, they're using all the wrong criteria to pick their

mate. What you need to do is touch that person, talk them, and then you'll know if the energy's there. You know, and then if that continues, Yeah, but listen, I have had real, I've been very horny, okay, for the wrong fucking guy. Okay, so sometimes you can't just use your sexual chemistry as a guide, no way. Yeah, no, but until you fuck them, you're not going to know if the connection's there. So most people, they want to go on a couple of dates or they're putting, you know, most relationships are based on something you want to get. So, you know, the girl may want to get married or have a boyfriend or the guy may want

not a girlfriend or or you know he may want a pretty girl they could show to his family or to his friends you know all bullshit you know and and and those things all are going to whatever you're putting your criteria for looking into your relationship after a while that's going to wear a real thin because that's not going to last it is it is the uh when the energy is equal that's what continues and that's what you know makes a relationship last and that's what makes you every day enjoyable. I mean, literally, because we, like, for example, we've been together before we started, you know, our relationship, we weren't around each other all that much because I went to work, she went to work, you know, we'd take nights off. But since COVID happened, you know,

we've been together literally 24-7, neither are working, you know, we're around each other non-stop. You know, there's no place to go, you know, and, you know, it was limited options. So where we go, we go together. And, you know, but when you have that positive energy experience, every day is, you know, there's always little things that happen, the arguments or whatever, but, but to the most part, you feel that positive experience all the time. And no one's put each other down, no one's belittling each other. And that's really what most of my other relationship about, you know, is, you know, the

kid's a nitpicky kind of, you know, aggressive kind of behavior. Yeah, but you also have to, but you also have to take accountability. for the fact that you were playing a part in that bad tension relationship that you had because you were full of shit. You weren't showing up and letting them know who you are and letting them decide for whether. So you were a part of the problem. It takes two to tango, right? I would never have been ready for this relationship I'm having now had I not, had I not,

you know, transformed in my personal life. in my own emotional, spiritual life. I'm not, you know, come into my own because, yeah, if I was still the same bullshit, you're jealous or, you know, duplicitous like, like attracts like. You're putting bullshit out there, you're full of shit, you can't be honest with you. So you're meeting someone on that level.

So that other person is going to be as damaged as you. Or looks are driving or whatever, whatever is superficial thing that you want to attribute to it, you know, if that's what. it's based on, it's not going to last, and eventually it's going to become a negative experience. So, you know, the fact that we've been, you know, they said, I'll open and honest. We still, you know, it's normal for people to be flirtatious. It's normal to want to, you know, have sex with other people, too.

It's normal to experience other things in life. If you only have the same energy all the time, eventually is going to get very still. So, you know, even just going out and being in a crowd of. people or being around other people and exchanging energy, which is even conversation, you know, you know, is so important because it re-energizes you. It prepares you to be back with that person. Right. But I have to say, listen, well, you do.

I don't think everybody does. I think that there's some people that are homebodies and don't need that, that much energy or that many people. You know, everybody, I think sort of vibrates at a different frequency. But I think what's most important is that you find the other person that's like you, you know, Not everybody wants to fuck three times a day and not be monogamous. There are people that are monogamous by nature. If someone only wants to party and the other person only wants to buy, you know,

antiques and, you know, do knitting, it's not going to work. Exactly. Because at some point, you know, yeah, you can let the other person go ahead and enjoy what they have. But if you can't share the experiences, if you can't taste a beautiful meal together or see a beautiful mountain or watch a movie or, you know, or, you know, or, talk about a topic that you can agree on or at least, you know, share the experience. What the hell are you doing with that person? Suddenly leave.

It's time to get out of that fucking relationship. Yeah. Most people don't do. You know, we all say in the relationship way too long because we just can't extricate ourselves because of our ego because of, you know. Well, you were needy. You were needy, too. You had a very needy, empty, yeah, you had an empty hole that was just needed to be filled.

I was a love addict. Yeah, but I think you're in like a real, you know, like I said, I give you credit and I think you're a really great example and an interesting example because I don't think a lot of people, you know, really ever reach the place where you're at where, like I said, they do transform and decide to really let their freak flag fly or really be who they are, right, in the middle of their life and completely change it up, right? But you did, and I give you credit for that and I think it's great. And I love your relationship because it is very different. But it really works for you guys. And so why don't you explain and then tell some hot stories? Because you know, you're a good looking guy. Your girl's super fucking hot.

She now has a bikini line. Like I said, I'm going to put picks of you online and on her. She's going to come on. And you guys do some crazy shit when it comes to sex. So let's get into that. Yeah. So we obviously were swingers. and, you know, we not only, so when we have other sexual experiences, you know, it's, it's, you know, other men, other female.

I mean, I'm not bisexual, but she is, you know, so it's not, you know, homosexual sex, terrible sexual, but, you know, and lesbian sex. So, you know, more times than not, it's other girls, you know, we, we try to find other couples because, you know, I want to be balanced. you know, but that's not as easy. And with guys, it's a little harder because there's a lot of ego there. So, you know, any guy will come in front of my girlfriend is no problem. But, you know, you've got to be kind of selective. You don't want to introduce that kind of negative energy. And just like she has the right to say, these girls are no good.

They're a little too egotistical or they're not respecting her. And, you know, and that girl's got to be out of our, you know, our little sphere. But so, you know, we all the time have. have, you know, threesomes, fours, orgies, you know, all the time. So we party a lot. We go out to clubs, you know, we have a lot of, you know, drug fuel and alcohol fuel nights. You know, I just started a lot of all now. You know, it's almost done.

It's mostly, you know, psychedelics. You know, we love ketamine and mushrooms and acid. some MDMA, but not so much. But, you know, we, like, for example, in Miami we had, one night we had an orgy. My friend was there, a guy, another girl was staying with us, and another girl came home with us, and so it was one, two, three, four, five of us in the orgy.

And did everybody do each other? Pretty much, pretty much, yeah. So your girl will fuck your friend, has fucked your friend? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, all the time. We've had, you know, one morning I was fucking her, and my other friend was there, and so she blew, she woke up, my lover was sleeping in the room.

We woke him up. I was spucking her, and she blew both of my friends, you know, as they thought, yeah. Two guys, two other friends. Two guys. Yeah, she loves multiple guys. That's her favorite, yeah. She loves brothers. The dirtier, the kicker, the more she likes it.

Brothers? You know. Yeah, you said a lot of fathers, sons, brothers, lots of brothers. Oh, my God, I can't wait to talk to her. Yeah, yeah. I'll get those stories from her. So many times. So many times.

Fathers and sons? She's a father and son one time, yeah. Brothers. Yeah, sexy fathers, but the brothers all the time. We were at a party just a couple weeks ago. We were in Miami. And she saw the guy, there was this French guy that she fucked him. She went back to him.

You'll let her tell us. but you went back to his house you know during our Basel fucked him then his guy was rooming

but then fucked her too and then she'd met the guy a couple more time he brought five different guys to fuck her

with him including his brother oh my God and she did them all and then she comes home and tells you about it and you're into it yeah

yeah yeah so we and so we know and then in Miami the last last we were there we

we hooked up with these two girls, they're both 21-year-old college students. They were crazy guys. It was squirting everywhere. It was like, you know, crazy sexual experience, you know. So now, give me that, like, talk through that experience, like, specifically, right? Like, are you just partying at a bar? And then does she, is she the one that, like, goes up and starts talking to them?

Or did you start talking to them? So, so for the girls, I'm allowed to go out and actually be actively, you know, engaging. Yeah. So, so it's okay for me to go. I mean, the guy, she can be passive because the guy just keep up coming up to her. She gets it on all the time. She goes to walk with my dog. She'll be three guys.

Give out her Instagram. I mean, like crazy. Yeah. She's not a problem. She's super hot, super sexy. You know, she looks like. Yeah. She looks like she's down to fuck, right?

I mean, she's presenting. When you walk in the street, most girls don't look you in the eye. Right. It looks the other way. That's what the train to do. She looks people in the eye. She engages them. Right.

Pasm, energy. So it's very easy for guys to talk to her. Like, no problem. Yeah. She will talk, no problem. So they did float with her a second. And so, but for me, I go out and I start to, you know, I talk to the girls. And what has to happen is I have to introduce her to the picture.

So, you know, so you know, I have a girlfriend, you know, and this is a deal. So, and so a lot of girls are bisexual. They like girls. They feel her energy. So that starts the process And then I'll ask those two girls That we had the force of it I met this girl actually

She was from Texas And I met a couple months before In New York She'd come to dinner She was a friend of another girl That invited her And when I met them She was hanging out with this other girl

They were visiting New York And the other girl was like a hardcore fucking lesbian And really angry girl Just very close not fun. And so, you know, the other girl was a Muslim. She didn't drink,

no drug. Oh, my God. I didn't think there was nothing going on. And then she texted me a couple weeks ago, you know, she said, I'm coming to Miami. You want to hang out. So, you know, I told her what parties, blah, blah, blah. And so we ended up meeting him up at a party. You know, of course,

we're all high on mushrooms and ecstasy, blah, blah. blah blah. And so they came back through the apartment. Oh, these are the two. So the two young college students was the Muslim and the hardcore lesbian? No, no. So she had another girl with her this time.

Okay. A black girl was, you know, also like real crazy, dress clitoris, you know, tattoos everywhere. It's actually, you know, open, you know. So, yeah, the other girl, she dumped her. She doesn't hang out with her anymore. Okay. So that was terrible. So these were the two college girls, though, that you said.

said that you brought home. Yeah, yeah. So they come back and what goes down? So, you know, we start, you know, everyone's, you know, the girls are kissing. I'm kissing. We're touching, you know, and then, you know, pretty soon we take all our clothes. Right. So you're with them.

Well, the girl actually, she, what happened at that time, she took two exercises. It was so high. It actually was a little hypothermic. She was your body temperature. She was like burning up. So we took her into the bathtub. It's been in the bathtub. She was like so horny.

We're like figuring her and she's squirting. And so, you know, that started the whole process. In fact, there was another couple there. The other girl that was there actually is a porn star. Very famous porn star. And she's a day. It's very conservative German guy. They were there.

So the girl wanted to get involved, but the boyfriend was not really, you know, he was not used to that, not really, you know, down. So we had to go. Like, who was so horny, like, where are in the go? the people leave they're at the apartment if some other people came over and it took like an hour and a half

so I wouldn't find it cleared out and we all have sex together and then you know we fucked you know I fucked all three girls you know the girls were going at each other you know

looking at each other you know so it was a real real crazy time right and it always it always ends when I come that's the end orgy

oh really? Every time yeah there's one guy whenever that guy comes every you feel the sexual age just goes away oh that's interesting yeah yeah it happens every single time every single time

so you know there's so with sexual tension everyone's just like going going going going and then when I come the whole thing ends so but how many times will you come in a session I mean can you hold it through fucking four three girls or you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah at this point in my life you know

I mean if there's more guys there that's different then then it can keep going because there's another male energy there to drive the process. Yeah. So, you know, when I was younger, I could come more quickly in succession. Now, I say that's harder for me, but I can hold it much longer. So usually, you know, I come at the end. So I'll finish fucking every girl.

And then, you know, then I come and that's the end of it. We're just hanging out after that. Right. So, you know. If you had to, like, do you prefer either, Or like, I mean, would you consider yourself like a cuckled, like you like to see your girl with another man? Or is it sort of like a free-for-all and you consider yourself more of a swinger and you prefer to see her with women or do you like both? I like both.

It's hard when you're dealing with another couple. It's actually really hard to find compatible couples. That's interesting because I have to tell you this, okay? You guys are lucky and maybe it's because you guys just party so much. because a lot of times I'm talking to couples that have kids and their home and they're, you know, kind of swinging on the side and they got to find people online or, you know, when they're on vacation. I mean, you and your girl are just out and about, even though you're a couple, you live like a single life, right? So I find that I'm mostly talking to couples that, you know, the way that they get to like have like these kind of experiences, they do it with another couple because it's very hard to find the single female to bring into it. They call that the unicorn because it's so hard to find, right? But because you guys are out. out in bars and everything, that's easier for you guys to find, right? Then the couples, is that what you're saying?

Yes, much easier. You'll find unicorns all the time. I mean, mostly in Miami, it was unicorns. You know, those two girls, another girl another girl came to stay with us, you know, another girl we found.

Yeah, it's mostly units. And let me ask you this, just so that people are listening, they could figure out how to do it successfully because you guys are super successful. You're saying that you're the one that gets them normally, or does your girlfriend sometimes get them? Find them. Most of the time it's me, and then she'll come assist.

Yeah. Sometimes she'll work on the girl herself and then I join in. Yeah. But most of those girls are more lesbian and they're not so interested in guys, so it's a little harder. It's better when I initiate and start the process. I have other couples that live the same lifestyle, and, you know, for example, one guy, he's, he's very charismatic, he's very smart, you know, he's got good energy, he's actually good-looking.

So, and he's got a beautiful girlfriend. So a lot of times, that's why we can't find couples. A lot of times it's creepy guys with money and sexy girls. Yeah. My girlfriend said, why the fuck I got a, I got a, I'm not going to fuck this creepy guy, you know, it's not worth it. Right, you get that hot girl. But so, yeah. Yeah, so for him, his girlfriend does all the work.

So a lot of times, you know, you know, that I know, the girlfriend's not so down for it that the guy, you know, he does most of the work. So most of our dynamic is that I do the work for the girls. Right. And the couples, we kind of, you know, together. I mean, like I said, it's harder to find, so randomly that's harder to find. Like in a club to find a couple of swings.

Yeah. You know, not so easy. You know, we do find, like, our vacations, you know, you know, you'll sense the energy. And so we start talking to people. and we're all flirting together, you know, but you have to find where you're both attracted to both parts. Yeah. Not too easy.

So now you've got to find another guy and girl that both will agree are attractive. Right. Yeah, and sometimes there's imbalance. The guys are really getting the girl's worse. The girls' better than guys' worse. Yeah. You know, we've had to compromise sometimes. And then you have egos and emotions.

So you'll have couples where, you know, either the husband or the wife is very jealous and can't handle it. Yeah. You know, so they'll seem that they want to do it. And we've met couples in swing clubs. One couple came back with us to our apartment and the guy freaked out. Oh, really? He couldn't handle it.

Yeah, he couldn't handle it. He got too jealous, you know. They've been married a long time. You know, so sometimes that's the issue. So if you're dealing with a single person, you know, it's much easier. So a single girl or a single guy, you know, you're bringing into the mix. You're not doing with other energies and other emotions, you know, a lot of ways that that's easier to deal with.

And also, if you have too many energies in, like, an orgy, sometimes it's even hard to come because it's just too much distraction. It's not easy. Yeah, someone told me that recently that they walked into an orgy, and it was almost too much that it, like, was, there was something about it being too much sex that was like it was like a system overload that it just kind of, it cancels it out. It's weird. You know, orgasms about building an energy to a peak.

You know, when you look at orgasm, it's this gradual increase, and sometimes it's flattened out and it goes down, but you have to go up slopes. So if you have too many other energies around, you know, they're touching, you know, sometimes it actually detracts from it, you know. Right. And then there may be emotions, like someone's getting more attention. You know, we have issues like, you know, like, you know,

like over with like, you know, she didn't come after the orgy, you know, The other girl's pussy, but not hers, you know, so they'll be able to fight over that or, or, or I'll feel insecure. You know, one guy had a huge cock and he was so hard to freak out. Yeah. I got a big cock. And, you know, I can compete. I'm usually the guy who's hard and fuck all the girls. Yeah.

This guy was like, like, you're out of control. He was like a stripper. Yeah. He was like, out of Puego. So they'd be feeling secure. So it was very hard for me to, you know, to deal with it. So it happens both ways, you know. So, yeah, and the more people obviously have in the mix, you know, the harder, you know, the war chats, you know, the energies you're not going to match or be too distracted or emotions will come into play, you know.

So sometimes easier with less people because that's why, you know, still where I want sex the easiest to deal with, you know. It's just you and one of the person, you know, you can focus on each other and pleasing each other. you're not trying to stick your finger. One girl's pussy and the other girl's suck you to suck your cock and the other girl's straddling of the other girl. You know, so sometimes the mechanics and the entities are hard to maneuver in a group sex situation. Right. Now, do you guys have people that you play with often, like, you know, your good old faithfuls

and stuff that are, you know, that are always around or are these mostly one-offs? I mean, it's actually, it's less interesting for, you know, we've had sex with a person. you kind of lose interest after that like in a relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there are some people, you know, like that girl, that porn star, we've had sex with her a bunch of times.

She's really sexual, and it's really good energy, you know, and then sometimes we don't see a girl for a long time, and then, you know, six, eight months later, we all get together, and so it happens.

Sometimes, you know, we made another for a couple nights in a row, and we don't, I don't believe in the interest, you can feel that the energy's not there because you've already done it. Yeah. It's always better than that fresh energy. That's a fun, you know. And both of you feel that way, your girl, too. Yeah. Yeah. She wants to, she gets fucked all of our old guys. We call them fish. You know, she has no interest, you know. I'm the only guy that she really fucks over and over and over and over again because we're so matched in our energies.

You just, you know, she'll tell you, it's the best sex of the life. It's the best sex of my life, too. But you also obviously have a relationship other than that. I mean, there's so much more going on between you guys at this point, right, than your sex. Yeah. Yeah. But now, at least for me, and maybe it's not applicable to everybody. Uh-huh.

So when you have a sexual anchor, you know, because, because, you know, listen, we're animals and we're, we're conditioned. We learn behavior. Yeah. It's like you teach you dog. It's great. You know, so there's this reward and there's punishment. So, you know, when people are figuring out the relationship and, you know, kind of building on it, you know, when you have that such a strong anchor that you just want to be with that person all the time, you're going to be interested in what they're interested. You're going to explore together, you know, and so you're going to gravitate towards similar music, similar food, similar experiences.

And the more that you share, so those connections keep on building and building building, you're going. Yeah, so the relationship, you know, grows from that point. Yes, not just sex. You know, like I said, I could be around her. We're around each other 24, 7. With COVID, it's been, like, exaggerated. And we really found it out that we could, you know, that's how we kind of do with it.

This is a relationship. We went to a Burning Man the first time. We needed to be together nonstop for 10 days. That was the longest we had been together. It was together like a day or two. Yeah. Take breaks. So, and that was a very stressful situation where a lot goes wrong.

you're, you know, higher drugs. There's a lot of partying and there's a lot of other energies. So when we realized that we could be around each other and negotiate and navigate that experience so perfectly and still want to be, you know, we're coming out of it after 10 days and still not be sick of each other, you know, that was, that was, you know, at the beginning of understanding that. And like I said, with COVID, you know, that was all, you know,

I mean, we've seen a lot of our friends actually develop relationships because of COVID because now you sound like you can go out and beat people. It's not so easy. I know. Yeah. The bar, you know, less opportunity. So people kind of stuck together. But, you know,

you know, we were just stuck together but we realized that we could really be around each other so much and it's because of all those deeper connections and all, you know, all the layers of the relationship. You know, so, yes, sex is important to us and, you know,

that's still the cornerstone, but, you know, Yeah, it's so much more. We cook together, we travel together. We, you know, we experience so many things, you know, together. It's like, I should take drugs together. We go a party together. It's, you know, much, you know, it's a much more incompetent experience. You travel together.

I know that, you know, she's Russian. She's Russian, right? Yeah. Right. So when she, for a couple, in the beginning, she didn't have her passport, right? Or a visa or whatever she needs. Yeah, she's a green car. Yeah, right.

Yeah, now we're. Now we're, I mean, obviously we're limited because of COVID. So, you know, we've been to Mexico a bunch of times. We went to Turkey. You know, we travel around the country, you know, we're in California, Miami, you know. Aspen. You know, we want to go other places. Obviously, we're limited right now.

But we haven't been home, actually, for months. We've been traveling. We were Miami for three months. You've gone all of COVID. COVID the whole time. I feel like, right? Yeah, we left from Mexico and we went up to California. Yeah, I can't get past Tulum.

I mean, Tulum is hilarious. It's like the new Ibiza to me. I don't know. It's fucking Tulum. Yeah. I remember hearing about it like 10 years ago, you know, when a lot of my friends in New York were going, but it wasn't like a place where a lot of people went to or knew about yet, but, you know, people, like there was a small group of people

that were in the know about Tulum. Now it's like the fucking place, right? Yeah, it's so much. It's actually gotten very commercial. Yeah. And the crowds changed. It used to be with all like burner type people. Yes.

Hippies. You're very. Artsy. Very artsy too. Yeah. Yeah. Very artsy. There's a lot of very great creativity.

Like all the, everything is built out of nothing. You know, it's built out like, you know, the jungle. Yeah. And so like some people just like built these amazing, you know, art and, and, and restaurants and,

cafes. So much creative shit. It's unbelievable. But then now actually it's like, now like mainstream America comes there. Everyone's there. People from Ohio, from Michigan, from, you know, from Wyoming. It's like, I can't believe it. There's like a lot of

hip hop guys. You know, these guys, you know, with the pants down by their, you know, the thighs and the big chains. You know, it's like crazy. Well, who did you meet there? I mean, how much sex did you have in Tulum? Well, we were to loom during COVID the first time. Like when it first started, I remember. Yeah, it was shut down.

So it was really us and another couple. We were the only, and there was one of the guy, we were living in this apartment complex, and we were the only ones there. And all the hotels were empty and everything was closed. You know, the last time we were there, you know, that friend of Ports or she came, we were shooting bikini so we had sex with you know

sex with her every night so that we did that you know and she's a porn star yeah yeah she's very very famous porn star but how interesting is it that

she's a famous porn star but you said she's married to like a super conservative German guy who doesn't let her no no not married they're just dating yet oh okay I don't know I don't think it's the last

long right right right I mean he's a really really nice guy and I hope forged out, but you could see that their energies are not sane. That's a problem. And what she, did you say, she said, let's mention your girl's bikini line and stuff. Why not?

Right. So people could go, you could check it out. Maybe I don't know if you want to. Because you said that she was doing picks of bikinis or she, you were doing the bikini. What did you say about the bikinis? Because your girl started in a bikini line. Yeah. So that's what we do. When we go to Miami, you know, it's a girl's a great way

to pick up girls. Yeah. Oh, you know, you know, We want to take pictures of you. So we have sex with a lot of girls. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was a great, great opening line. But yeah, so we, so, you know, that's what we've incorporated to a lot of our travels. You know, I take my camera, and then we take a whole bunch of bikinis, and, you know, we go and do photo shoots.

You know, we did at least five or six photoshoots in Miami. We did, like, you know, three in Toul, last time. We're going back to Toul now for three weeks. we're going to shoot some more of the bikinis. So, yeah, we've got to made that. She used to work as a personal trainer, but, you know, she hasn't been back in that job because, you know, A, a lot of clients left New York and B, you know, it's not really pleasant to work out in the gym and the mask.

No, I work out at home. I won't go back to the gym as long as I have to wear a mask. It's bullshit. I still can't believe people. I mean, I have another friend. She's a group instructor. Yeah. one of the big gyms here in New York.

And she said, yeah, they're back now with classes, but it's like horrible. Yeah. You know, they can fit 20 people, you know, with the COVID restrictions, barely, you know, fit they're even at 10% capacity. Yeah. Because it's like, and it's not fun. Yeah. No, you need to fucking breathe.

You barely could breathe when you're, if you're really working out hard, you're barely breathing and you don't want to throw a mask over that. I'd have like a panic attack. Yeah. I'm not interested in that. But yeah, so wait. Did you meet that porn star that you guys, like, been, you know, friends with for a while? Did you meet her because you're, like, saw her out in about one day and you're like, oh, she would look great in her bikinis.

Yeah, yeah. No, she had a lot of mutual friends. Yeah. She dated. Friends of mine. No, no, we've known her. In the circle, anyway. In the circle, yeah.

In the party circuit, you know, it's actually not as big a group as you would think. Yeah. And you see the same people, whether you go to Ibiza, whether you go to Loo. Oh, my God, hilarious. Yeah. You know, to meganos. It's the same people, you know. I mean, I don't know if it just by accident because, you know, we all like the same music or, you know, with the same, you know, trading information.

But, you know, so it's, there's a big network of people that everyone knows each other pretty much. Right. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, and so, yeah. So that's how you kind of, you know, you meet these people. It's, you know, a lot of parties or there'll be dinners or, you know, sort of bring a friend that, you know, how you're connected to them. So that's kind of how the socialization happens. And how you met that, the porn star girl, because you said she was one that you kind of have been with for a while

or like you have hooked up with more than once. Normally you lose interest. Yeah, I mean, we didn't hook up with her, you know, not, and I've known her for, you know, I do her for like a year or two before anything happened. You know, and then, you know, I'd say about a year or a half ago, you know, we kind of, she came over actually to get Botoxin fillers in my house and then she paid me and then we had sex. So it worked not good. And she's actually a really nice girl, you know, really positive energy.

Obviously very open, you know, very spiritual. So, you know, she's a lot of friends, you know, and she's very close to, you know, my girl. in that too. Right. So she does pictures for your girl. When I talk to your girl, she could also talk

about her bikini line too because why not promote that? That's something that, is it already launched? What's the name of it? So it's called undressed. Mm-hmm. You know,

we have about 50 bikini shots. We, you know, we're working on the packaging. I'd say we're about two or three months away to actually making sales. Mm-hmm.

you know, you know, you know, you know, we started a corporation, we did all the, you know, the tax ID,

that's all that stuff. So that's all in place. But, you know, there's a lot, you know, even when you have the pictures, you have,

there's a lot of editing that goes into it. You know, you got to, you know, all the, you know, the photo retouching.

So it's actually a lot of work to actually get that all set up. And then, you know, then we've been getting stocked. So we, we actually have now, you know,

a bunch of bikinis in stocks. I'd take a couple of months so I'm actually ready to actually sell stuff. Let me ask you this because you know, you guys have this,

you do all have all this sex and everything. Like now do you bring her like, you know, is she like a part of your family? Like if you brought her home to meet your parents, does your family know about your lifestyle or like is all this stuff like on the down low? Are you really out about

you know, your guy's relationship and what you do with everybody? I mean, it's common knowledge. I don't really, um how much to do with my family at this point. Oh, really? You know,

yeah, they're very negative energy and they judge me. Even your parents and your brothers and stuff? Yeah. I mean, I have minimal contact with them. Um, I mean,

I'm not, I guess I said, everyone knows what I do. It's not, I'm not, I don't hide it. I'm not going to, you know,

yeah, they'll accept it. They'll accept it. I can give, you know, you know, um, but I know they judge me.

And that's why I just, I don't, avoid them. Right. They'll go home for the holidays. I don't, you know, my father hit on my girlfriend. Like, tons. I brought her and two other girls to my parents' house one time.

Yeah. And my dad, like, he has it. He'll come sit right next to me. And he's talking to her, and she was wearing this white shirt and her nipples were showing. Yeah. And she goes, he goes, and he's talking, oh, where you're from? But by, she's in St. Petersburg. He goes, oh, I see.

They don't wear a bras in St. Peter's right. Oh, my God. But wait, did you want to fuck your father, considering she's into those kind of scenarios? I mean, if my father was a decent person and not a pain in the ass, competitive with me, he says to my girlfriend, he goes, so tell me, who's more charming? I mean, that's still a handsome guy. He's 85. Yeah, yeah. He's still a handsome guy.

Yeah. And she's like, who's more charming? Me or my son? You know, probably, she's very competitive with me. And so it's not, you know, that's the fault with the guy's ego. Yeah. They think they're going to fuck them. They're so special.

You know, no. You know, it's, it's, it's, she's attracted to other people, obviously, but, but, you know, don't kid yourself. She's never do it again with you. So, you know, good luck. But, you know, no, my, my parents, no worry. My dad, they tried, he just grabbed her boobs and he just got her fuck her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was really on her.

Well, because you did say she likes those little incest fantasies. Was that? Well, you said she liked those little incest fantasies. You know, two brothers, the father and the son, so that would be perfect. My little brother. She wanted, we tried to array. We were Miami. He was in the way of him.

We tried to erase that sex with him. Yeah, it just didn't work out. You know, we're going to go together. Yeah, my little brother, yeah. Isn't he married? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so she would, right. Okay, so you've tried.

She did her. She did a show him. I'm married. Yeah, she's something very married guys. Yeah, yeah, no, I get that. You guys wouldn't care. I didn't know whether. he would. So now, did he know that you guys were down to do it and did he just pass?

I mean, I insiduated. I wasn't sure if he was going to do it. You know, and I still can't figure out if she does what or not, you know, but, you know, my girl was down. You know, he's a little bit guy. So she was totally down. She loves that. So we would have done it if he could have arranged it for sure. Right. Now, does she have any sisters? What's that? Does she have any sisters or any family members? You could, She has an older sister, but they're not really, they're very different in energy. And they're many years apart. They're like nine years apart.

And she lives in Russia. And she has really very little to do with a sister. She never really got along with her. They're so different. And as I say, it goes with families, you know, my parents have different energy to me. My brother's had different energy. You know, and this whole notion where you need to be, you know, friends with your brothers or sisters, if the energies don't match, I mean, if it does, great.

You know, that's a great experience. I have a friend who's heard her mother is so, Suzanne, is so cool together. They hang out nonstop and they, you know, really have a great relationship. But not every parent and child and sibling is equivalent. And so sometimes you're best to be away for those people, you know, and not, you know, not trying to force that relationship. You know, it's not necessarily, you know, relevant, you know, your family are the people you choose to be around, you know.

And so if you have that great connection with them, you know, fabulous. If you don't, you know, so do your brother, your sister, your mother, your father. You don't need to be hanging out with them, you know. Right. You need to be taking the right people. Because if you just let all that negative energy kind of invade your life, you're just going to feel lousy and frustrated and upset and angry. You know, you know, just like I used to feel that when I used to go home to my parents off.

I had this horrible, you know, feelings of insecurity and just dread. And, you know, just shut down emotionally, you know, because I cannot be that situation. It's just not healthy. Yeah, I always found it hard. Whenever I always hated family functions, somebody once asked me, like, why do you hate so much? I said, because, you know, everybody there has such an opinion of me from, like, my whole life that I just don't ever feel like I could be myself. Like there's something just feeling like so like uncomfortable for me. And I think it's just that I don't ever feel like I could really be myself.

Yeah. You and your family totally different. I know that. And you know, and you should. And so I said, don't force up to be around these people. It's not worth it. Well, it's more my extended family. My actual family members like my sister, my mother, I can do it.

But when it's a big group with the family and they all knew me when I grew up, I can't explain it, but I have that same vibe that I just, I do it. It's so uncomfortable, and it's because I just don't feel like I can be myself. You should always try to minimize those experiences. I do. Don't go guilty. They're not even once a year at this point. Yeah, they're not even once a year.

I say no to us so much. And it was, like, great when I had my son because it was always an excuse. Like, oh, it's nap time. Can't make that function. Oh, like, he's, you know, I can make excuses. But wait, let's get back to you before because we have, like, a good 10 minutes. And I want some more hot stories because that's what people are going to love. have like a gazillion of them. It's hard to like, you know, focus. You know, I mean, when,

now that you've been back, have you been, is there any kind of swinging or anything going down in New York City or no way? Um, we're going to be back a short time. So, you know, I said, it's harder during COVID to kind of like, you know, find socialization. I mean, we've been going to some parties, but, you know, uh, it's not like, you know, the old days, you know, there's a party every Monday night, every Tuesday, every Wednesday, every Wednesday, we do where to go all the time. You know, I know there's an underground party. In fact, tonight we're going to go. Maybe something will happen, you know, I think the swing club, you know, you've been to a couple of times in New York.

He actually reopened in Midtown East. So maybe we'll head over there. You know, but it's definitely harder, you know, during COVID. You don't have the same option. Yeah. You know, so, and when you, honestly, the funny thing is when you don't look for it, it happens, you know. How long can you guys go without, like, scratching that itch, you know, like, have you gone months? Is it something that you guys are, like, with other people and doing it all the time?

I mean, I think, you know, like, when we were during COVID, we were in Mexico, you know, it was kind of frustrated that there was no other, you know, options. Yeah. We invited this one girl. We met this girl from Ohio. And we got it to come stay with us in the apartment complex. And there's one of the guys who was staying there. And she ended up looking up with him. And we lost her.

Because both me and the other couple. Oh, God. We had our eyes on her. We were like, oh, fuck, we've had another girl. Yeah, yeah. A single girl, excellent. And this guy fucking copped her up. And he was, he didn't want to do any, you know, any, you know, orgy.

he was like, you know, against it. So, you know, she seemed like she's still interested, but, you know, that kind of put the kibosh on it. So, like, we were, like, wrapping our brain Mexico. So should we invite this girl? She'd invite that? She'd invite that? Like, that girl? You know, but the problem was that what you invite them?

You couldn't get rid of them. Right. So we ended up, actually, we left Mexico. We went to Palm Springs for two months. So there, we had, like, a succession of girls. One girl came for two weeks. And we were fucking her over two weeks. And then we invited another girl from New York and she came.

And we fucked there for a couple of days. And another girl from Miami, and she came, and we fucked her for a couple of days. So, yeah, we do like to have that other energy. We've gone, you know, a month and two without anything happening, just, you know, because it just didn't happen. Well, let me ask you this. Do you guys have any rules and regulations? Like, in that kind of situation where the girl stays for two weeks and you're both

fucking, like, can you just go at a random time and fuck the girl and your girl's fine with it? Or do you always have to be above, like, what's the deal? Yeah. Yeah. No, once, you know, on the day off, so if we're not seeing each other, she can talk as a guy, and she will, you know, guarantee because she could buy guys a two seconds. Yeah.

You know, and I can fuck other girls, and that's totally okay. And, you know, you need enough time. So the rule is there, you know, whenever you're done fucking the other person, you need some time for the energy to kind of dissipate. So we leave a little space to we kind of get back together again, and then we share stories and, you know, that's true the thought. you know but when there's another guy or girl were you know like you know we're in Tulum

the other couple other girl actually was not down but the other guy we fucked him you know like a couple times you know three or four times you know whenever he could sneak away from his girlfriend you know um you know and she didn't mind because they have sort of an open relationship you know but she's a pain in the ass and um so you know

but we did it a bunch of times but she's not allowed to go and fuck this guy on her wrong I'm not going to go fuck the girls on my own. So it's always, so if we're doing it together, we're doing it together. Right. So if you're in a house in Palm Springs alone and there's a third person there, it's always a group thing. It's not so low. But if you're home in New York and you guys are separated for a day or two.

Sometimes we play little games. Like, you know, we pretended that her and there was sisters and I was a daddy. Oh, I remember. Really? I was on the phone with you guys. And I don't know if you had just done that scenario or you, you know, wanted to do that. I think you had just done it the night before and I was like oh my god you got to

come on my show. The daddy sister scenario remember that? Tell me that last story. We had twin beds. Yeah. In one of the rooms so each of them went in there. I pretended to sleep and I went in and I snuck in and I fucked one of them. I said okay don't tell your sister.

I love you more than your sister. And then with the other bed I fucked me out of the one and tell the same story. And they but they're watching and listening. I mean, they're in on the whole thing, right? It's everyone's little fantasy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just part of the fact. So, yeah, we're, we're, that's, that's part of the deal. You have to be respectful. Like, I can't be making out with girls in the club, unless they're kissing her too. Right. You know. Yeah, and it was my, my girlfriend's idea. That was the queen's

idea. Right. That was her role. Oh, oh, no, no, you mean that. Yeah, she definitely has that thing, right? She has those incest fantasies. Yeah, she loves it. She was trying to get in the background. She was fucking brothers, sister, cousin, she loves all that. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait to talk to her to find out if she's ever done it in real life. I mean, she mocks it up, though, in Fantasyland, right? I mean, that's what you guys do, right? Yeah, she's done it. Yeah, she'll tell a couple stories.

Yeah, I mean, but when I used to go on vacation without her, I come back and just fuck some brothers, so it's fine to happen. Yeah. She'd be out of restaurants with two brothers to go back and fucking do with them. So, yeah, so, you know, she lives in a building.

There's two Turkish guys lived a couple doors down, and she fucked with both of them, you know, and, you know, so yeah, she does it all the time. That's a thing, but, you know. Yeah. She likes it, you know, it's just. And it's kind of, you know, when you acknowledge that it's normal, just the whole edible thing, it's like that,

and, you know, daddy's girl girl. there is a sexual tension there. And I'm not saying you should fuck your, your father, your mother, or your brother and sister. I'm sure it does happen, you know,

plenty of times, and it's considered very, you know, negative. I mean, most part it is, if it's coerced or inappropriate,

you know, but to at least acknowledge it, even in a fantasy way, you know, and, you know, and, um,

at least not fight that way, but you say this is natural. you know, that's a freeing experience. You know, it's not as usual, you know, you know, to feel attracted to your sister or brother. And when you, you know, I've had girlfriends that had very negative relationship with a brother where they would beat them something like that.

And, you know, and I talked to my therapist about these incidents, you know, and he said, yeah, that's sexual tension. It's like most violence. It's sexual tension, you know. The problem is, you know, society is not enough sex. Everyone withholds it because, like, it's bad or,

I need to, you know, I can't do it that much or I have too much sex. I'm a lot. You know, basically our sexual organs are incident. You can have as much sex. There's many people, as many times as you want, there's no limit. It never runs out. Well, you live that life. You can and be in a relationship.

You could have it all because, you know, you, because that's what you have. My last question to you, what the fuck was it? Because I was like, I'm not going to touch that whole incest thing. I'm going to move on. Oh yeah, my last question to you was because you said in the beginning, like you guys all fuck each other and your swingers and there's, you know, lesbian stuff going on, but you know, you're not into guys, right? Have you ever like even kissed a guy? Do you think maybe you have a slight thing as being bisexual or is it completely a big fat now? I mean, no.

I mean, I've never crossed that line. I mean, I mean, I kiss guys all the time in a, you know, and I, you know, and I, I, you know, I. And I feel that energy, you know, with guys. Guys try to, you know, because I have sort of an energy about me, and people are very attracted to it, you know, and I love to talk about, you know, the truth of the universe. And, you know, this is the guru guide. Yeah.

Yeah. We call it university. You know, that happens. That university happens over every night in my play. A bunch of people are over and we're talking about it. Oh, my God. That's why you wear those clothes. Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah, so, but, you know, so I feel that, that connection to guys, and they feel it towards me. And so many times guys don't see my phone number or they, they come in about my beard or my look, or, you know. So, so I actually get a lot of attention from guys, you know. Does it turn you on at all? Is there, is there a sexual tension to that for you at all? No, no, I'm not, I mean, I don't feel like, you know, give you a guy of low job or getting fucked at the ass, no. you know, and maybe that's conditioning, you know.

Well, what about him blowing you? Have you ever had that? No, I said, you know, it doesn't, you know, it doesn't, you know, it turned me on. I mean, trannies, I could see a little bit, you know, because it looks like a girl. Yeah. To me, you know, but I'm attracted to women. Just like some women are not attracted to other women. They're only attracted to men.

So I think that those, just like you said, the energies are all different. Yeah. I think those sexual energies and those connections, some of it is, learn behavior, you know, because you're exposed to heterosexual or homosexual. But I think most gay guys or gay girls aren't trained to be gay. It's just something they feel, you know, very indogously. You know, it's just a natural tension for that. You know, so I think that you're kind of born into that to a lot to the extent.

Right. Some of it is conditioning, but a lot of it is, you know, you know, just a natural, um, uh, sentience. sense that you have. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I'm not, you know, I'm not homophobic. I have many gay friends, and obviously I'm naked with a lot of guys.

Yeah, right. You know, that's normal. But we got, you know, let the girls do all the work. Oh, yeah. I have one of my best friends, you know, was a promoter for 15 years, and we did so many,

like, you know, four something, three, five, something. You know, we bunked girls together over and over. You know, but it's always an heterosexual, you know, way. And I think there is some stigma. It's more acceptable to be bisexual for a girl. Yeah. But, you know, but I do have friends who are bisexual men, too, you know.

Yeah, that's changing with the younger people. I mean, would your girlfriend give a shit? I mean, does she want it or does she not care? How do, would she feel about that? I don't think If it turned me on I think she would be accepting of it Right

You know You know It's not It's not her thing Right She's probably with You know She's been with so many guys

I'm sure Some of those guys Are bisexual Yeah I wouldn't be surprised You know You know You're very sexual

You know It does still over You know We have a good friend You know He's gone over You know He's a very

Very sexy Dominican guy and he just, his view is, you know, I fuck whatever I feel like fucking. You know, everyone would try to the girl at that time. I fuck the girl, and he's very good with the girls. And if I feel like fucking the guys, you know, so he does, you know. It's just, it's whatever he's feeling at the moment. And it flips back and forth.

You know, so I think, I think that's all, it's all acceptable. It's just whatever is good for you, you know. It's not for everybody. Do you guys use conducts? Last question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She does. I mean, we still, at least look at the problems, you know, because, you know, they're still fingering and oral. Yeah. We had to get away a couple weeks ago.

They got nasty, you know, yeast infection and stuff to get rid of, you know, because, you know, when you live that lifestyle, obviously, there is more risk. But, no, we always, you know, we always use crimes. That's the role, you know, because, you know, you got to, you got at least, you're doing at least be smart about it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So they would probably try to get infection if you care. Oh my God. I can't wait to talk to her. I'll be talking to her soon, right? And follow up this episode with that episode. I'm going to post picks of you and her. Why not, right? Just to tease people so they can't wait for hers. Anonymous picks. You'll send it to me.

I'll let you know when this airs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I need, I have, I could use ones from before, right, that I have. I'll send you what I'm going to post. you know. It's only on Patreon. It's only for my paid members anyway. If you want to see the picks of Dr. Guy and his girlfriend who, you heard some hot stories here, but you're going to hear from her because I'm going to interview her too, right? She's going to come on, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, for cool. And, but you could go sign up for that. I'll have the links all below and people will be able to listen to others. I got to say this, though, too, because like the last time I talked to you, you were a little out there, okay? And I don't know if it's COVID or it just calmed you down or something.

thing. I don't know, but it was just a very pleasant conversation with you this time. You're a little bit more sane. You were getting a little bit fucking cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. I don't know, like one of the last times I talked to, but I don't know, like, I don't know what it is, but you're

a little bit more grounded, and I think that's really good, and I'm happy for that. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's definitely, I stopped. It's still something very internal to me, and part of what I feel was my

truth and my, in my, you know, energy. Yeah. It's just, right, I like to spread the word.

Yeah. But I, I started to accept that, that, that I can't really change everybody. And if someone's ready to listen, I tell them. Yeah.

If they're not, you know, you know, so what. Right. That's good. You know, I've lost some of that frustration,

which is, yeah, and for me, it's a lot common too. Because, yeah, who the hell wants to be arguing everybody all the time.

Yeah, no, and I'm glad we kept it to this, right? Because I think that's what was so frustrating last time because you just wanted to really talk about all this other stuff. And what I do on my show is I like to really sort of dig deep and get personal with the person about themselves, right?

Then talk about bigger picture things, which we kind of did, you know, off and on in this podcast. But I think that that was important here too because I think you and your girlfriend and your relationship and your transition and all your other shows is just like a really good example of an interesting, like success story, you know? and that's what I want people to take for this besides the hot stories that you gave.

And I'm going to give the links. Yeah. It's often better not to try and jam it down someone's throat. Yeah. If you lead by example and people hear it, you know, if they learn something from it, you know, from your experience. But that's why I started my show.

That's what I always say about my show. Like, you know, I was always like doing this digging and questioning and trying to help people with their problems to all my friends and people will get fucking annoyed because sometimes people aren't ready to hear that message. or they're not at the place where they want to solve their problem or get to the next level. And that's their fucking choice.

You know what I mean? It's not my, like, that's not my position to force people to be where I need them to be. You know what I mean? Or to hear what I have to say. So when I started my podcast, it was like, you know what? I'm going to meet people who are exactly where, you know, they need to be to hear what I have to say. And that's what's so gratifying, right? And so I don't have to do it in my personal life anymore.

I'm not trying to dig deep with my friends. No, you're much better. You're much better, too, to I respect you. You were aggressive, too. Right. Yeah. You're much more calm, too. Yeah, we both gave the same realization.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what's so interesting. That's why I love, you know, my guests. Like, you're a friend of mine, right? But you're also a guest on my show. I love people that I've talked to many multiple times because it really just goes to show that, you know, you can't just, you know, define somebody by one chapter in their life or one snapshot, right? You have to, you know, and as long as you're alive, you're still

grow, yeah, and as long as you're alive, like, this isn't the end of the story. This is just another chapter. Who knows where you're going to be five years from now? But it's interesting where you've been, how far you've come, and where you're at right now. So thank you so much for coming back on the show. I'll let you know when this is going to air, and I really look forward to talking to your girlfriend. Yeah, no, that should be fun. All right, awesome. And I'm going to have a couple of fun questions, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm going to, we'll go out to all hang out one time soon. Okay. Thanks for calling in again. Sounds good. All right. Bye, bye. Okay. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book,

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