Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 397 - JD is a 23 Year Old Bisexual in a Poly Relationship with a Much Older Couple
Episode Date: June 28, 2021Jd is a 23 year old bisexual who is in a poly relationship with a sixty year old couple. What How did he realize he was poly and how did he go about finding the couple? What is their marriage like and... why did they get involved with him? Who hooks up with who and what exactly goes down between them? Tune in for all the details which include why he chose them even though they were so much older, their first meeting which ended up in a threesome at a movie theater, his bisexual past, the gay husband and how he brings in male escorts for them to enjoy, the most number of people they have had sex with at one time, how the wife enjoys watching gay sex, how she was gang raped when she was younger and how that affects her sex life now, how the public reacts when they all go out together, how the couples kids feel about the relationship, why they had to move out of town and how he's dealing with them being far away plus a whole lot more. **Also, was he jerking off while talking to me?? Stay tuned to hear me call him out...and then let me know what you think in the comment section below. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. Today I have on a guy named J.D.
JD is 23, okay, and in a polyamorous relationship with a 60-year-old couple.
That's not a salacious headline.
That's a fucking real deal.
That's exactly what's going down in this kid's life, okay?
There's something really funny that happens within, like, I would say, the first 15 minutes
or maybe so of this podcast that you need to listen for.
I really, at one point I think he's drinking off.
You need to tell me if you think he is, especially if you're on YouTube.
Comment below.
I mean, I call him out. You'll know exactly when it happens because I'm like, what the fuck are you jerking off? It's a really funny part of the episode. But his story is fascinating. Like I said, he's 23. He met this young, I mean, this old, he's young. He met this way older couple. The first day they meet, they're like in the movie theater hooking up. I mean, the movie theater scenario was the one that I thought he was jerking off to. You might be jerking off to that situation too. I don't know. So we talked about their first meeting and how they hook up.
them in the movie theater and then they, you know, they wind up living together and the guy is
gay and he's by and they barely sleep together, but they all sleep together. They hire escorts. They
have like multiple people's sex. They all sleep in the same bed. He's like really in love with
them. Eventually they move away. They're like not around anymore because I don't know. He explains
the whole thing, but he's like living in their house and they're fully supporting him. And I don't know,
it's a whole situation going on. But it's like a love affair. I mean, he's really in love with them.
They're like having a long distance relationship and he has no intention of leaving that long distance relationship.
Who sleeps with who?
How do they make it work?
What do you mean the guy's gay?
But is he by?
Yeah, he's by actually.
Anyway, these are all the questions that get answered in this episode.
It's really interesting.
So stay tuned for JD.
Hey, J.D.
Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
I'm good.
Thank you.
So J.D.
you're in an interesting relationship, right?
Yes, I am.
When I got your email, I was like, oh, interesting.
Like, I don't think I've heard this one before.
You're a guy who's in a polyamorous relationship, right?
But you're not the person.
Like a lot of times I've talked to other polyamorous couples, right?
But it's always the couple.
It's not the third person, the quote unquote unicorn, right, that they got in to come into
their relationship.
You are the person.
You're like a single guy that got involved with a couple, right?
and then had a polyamorous relationship with them.
Correct?
Yes.
Okay, so let's get fucking to it.
Because aren't they kind of way older than you or something?
I feel like there's, I forget the exact details.
You have to remind me.
They are.
They, um, they're, right now they're actually, um, in their 60s.
Right.
And I'm 23.
Yeah, way older.
Yes, much, much way older.
Um, yeah.
So,
I guess I guess everybody wants to know how I met them.
Yeah, start.
Please start from the beginning.
I mean, how does a 23-year-old guy wind up in a polyamorous relationship with a 60-year-old couple?
Well, I guess you can start when I was in high school, when I was a senior in high school.
Well, the year before, actually, I applied to all these different schools.
at a state. I kind of wanted to go to a school that's far away from my mom. So I applied
pretty much everywhere that's far away. On the other side, as far away as you could get from your
parents. So funny. So I got accepted to a school at West. I remember, you know, now that I'm
going to be on my own, I was kind of thinking, well, first of off, I've always had a desire to be
the poly animal relationship.
I've always been known that was bisexual.
Even out of a very young age, I've always had an attraction to both men and women.
But I guess I can say my desire for like a poly relationship.
But started when I saw this team show, I don't even heard of called Big Love on HBO.
Yeah, I've heard of Big Love.
I never watched it, but I totally heard of it.
I mean, it was kind of like came out, you know, before, you know, this was so acceptable, right?
It was like sort of out of the time.
Yes.
Basically, it's about a show where a man has three wives.
Mm-hmm.
And I was just watching the show and it's like, that's exactly what I wanted.
It's like, but only instead of a man sharing three wives,
my desire's always been one wife sharing three by husbands.
Mm-hmm.
So it's always been something I've always thought,
I was something that I've always wanted.
But I didn't really think it was possible.
Yeah.
So as I was 18, I'm looking, ready to go to,
college far away. I just thought, you know, what are the chances that there could be a couple
out there that could be looking for a relationship with someone on another by mail? So I just
happened to basically go on Craigslist in their personals. This was back before when it was still
around. Yeah. So I looked at in the area that I was near my school. And to my surprise, I actually
found Bill and Lindsay's personal ad. And I must have read a hundred times.
because almost everything they said was exactly what I wanted.
I was something that everything that actually I been dreaming about.
In their ad, they basically said that they were a mature couple,
that they were transitioning to a new part of their life,
and they wanted to include another by-mail,
that they wanted to go date, fall in love,
and even possibly be part of their family.
And I just couldn't believe what I was reading,
because that's exactly what I've been wanting for a very long,
time. In their ad, there's just one word that they're using, it just, it just really got to me.
I don't know if you know the word Polly Andri, but basically, what is that? It just means a woman
having multiple husbands. And the moment I read that in their post, I was just like, that's,
this is the couple. I got to, I got to answer right away. Yeah. So I basically wrote this really
long email to them. I pretty much poured my whole heart into writing this email, telling them
everything about me. I was being really honest. I told them I was still in high school that I was
going to this school near them in the fall. And, you know, I know that they were a white couple
and I'm, and I don't know you can hear it, but I'm actually, I'm actually an Asian male.
I remember you telling me that in your email. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so I was kind of a little worried.
Maybe they had a pre-the, that wasn't their preference.
But I just basically wrote this really long email, just trying to make the case that I was the one that they were looking for.
When I sent it out, I checked the next day, and I discovered that their ad that they put up was basically closed or was gone.
It was done, yeah.
Uh-huh.
So I waited for a week, two weeks, nothing happened.
It wasn't until like the third week, and I finally got their email, and I was just completely shocked.
I didn't really expect them to answer.
And they said that they read my entire really long email, and that they really were touched by what I had said.
And we started getting in touch from there.
We started doing little email exchanges and finally talk on the phone for a little bit.
And I was basically completely honest with them.
I'm still not living in the state that they're living at the time.
But, you know, we wanted to basically just, you know, feel each other out and see how this went.
So around fall time, when I finally attended classes, I have to say it was maybe it was about a week or two weeks when I finally settled in classes that they finally got a chance to meet.
Now, before you met, did you guys exchange picks?
and stuff, I'm assuming.
We did.
We did a few FaceTime.
So, yeah, they knew
what I looked like.
Right, and you knew what they looked like.
Yes.
So were you attracted to them?
I'm assuming you were.
I was.
Actually, both of them were really good looking
for, especially for their age.
Bill, who
was this really tall,
muscular,
retired army.
just was really good looking
Lindsay who is
fairly slim
blonde hair very slim
and very good looking for her age
I mean I just
I didn't really need to have pictures to know that they were
really attractive people and they probably could have picked anybody
and other my other quick question is
did you
did you
always know that you were
interested in an older
an older couple or did it was it just
like was it was it
was the fact that they were older just a part of something that you would just accept or was it something that you actually was into?
I have to really phrase that properly.
Wait on it.
Like, were you into them because they were older or you were into everything other, all the other stuff that they said?
And then the fact that they were older was just okay with you because everything else was so right on the money.
Or did you have like a fetish for people way older than you?
No, I wouldn't say I had a fetish, but it didn't, it didn't bother me that they were much older than me.
Cool. In fact, the fact that they were a little bit older than me was really not an issue at all.
Right. Okay, cool. It wasn't like a thing, though, either. That's what I was getting at. It wasn't like a fetish where you were looking for someone way older. It just so happened that the one couple that was exactly on the same page with you happened to be way older.
Right. Okay, cool. So you go to school two weeks into it. You guys meet. Start back there.
Okay. So actually, that, actually, that,
could actually be a story onto its own. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so, well, we agreed to go to this
coffee shop early in the morning. And I remember that morning being raining. And so basically,
I just, and I basically just ran out of the house. I wasn't really dressed properly. But I got to
the coffee shop first. Uh-huh. And not too long, they both, Bill Lindsay walked in. And,
I remember the first time seeing them in person how when Lindsay walked in, the sun was
so broken through the clouds and shining behind her and her blonde hair was glowing and I
could just or she looked like an angel.
Right.
And Bill was just handsome man walking towards me.
He was dressed really nicely, very neatly.
And I just, I couldn't believe that they were real.
So, you know, we got to talking.
I mean, basically.
Listen, let me just tell you what everyone's going to say underneath this on YouTube.
They're going to say basically, basically, basically, basically.
You say the word basically a lot.
Okay.
Try not to say basically so much.
If you can.
Listen, I say certain things all the time, too.
Like, everyone has their thing.
You know, I'm just telling you you say it word.
Try and not say basically every other word.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
No, it's okay.
Come on.
So we got to talking at a coffee shop and I think I really think we were hitting it off.
We talked about pretty much everything.
They wanted to know about my past history as a bisexual.
I talked to.
I asked them about Bill's history and Lizzie's career as a photographer.
I just remember, you know, like,
Some way, partways around, we started, I was just starting to flirt a little bit with Bill, and Bill was starting to flirt a little bit with me.
And Lindsay was just in the middle watching us flirt.
And there was just, there was definitely real chemistry between us.
Let me ask you this real quick.
And I, I'll remember where we were.
What was your history and past with, with men and being bisexual?
Well, I've, I've actually had.
few male partners, but I've only had one female partners, but none of them were really
like long-term relationship.
They were just one-time things or a few-time things, but nothing was real serious.
But I've had sexual partners with both men and women.
Okay, cool.
All right.
So you felt like you were flirting with him and she was watching.
So we were really flirting for a good 30 minutes.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't know, but I kind of dropped his.
little idea with them.
The coffee shop that we were in
St. Plavre is actually a movie theater.
And the only reason why
I dropped this suggestion, because
it was something that actually had done
with a guy I'd been seeing
earlier. I suggested
maybe the three of us go
to this movie theater together.
And we
did. We chose a movie
that we were sure that
no one was going to be watching.
When we went in, the theater was
basically empty and we
kind of sat in a blind spot
away from the door where normally we could see
when the lights went dark.
That's kind of when three of us got handsy
with one another.
Were you sitting in between?
Like what was the seating arrangements?
Were you?
I was sitting in between them.
Okay, yeah, cool.
Let's just say to make it easier for them,
I stripped off my entire clothes
and I was basically buck naked sitting in between them.
Oh my God.
you an exhibitionist?
No, no.
You're just really naughty.
I mean, to be totally naked, I could see if you like unzip your pants and do it on
the, but to take off all your clothes in a public place where anyone could walk in at any
time maybe, right?
Like, it's kind of, you know, you might have a little bit of an exhibitionist and you,
like, you mean, you know, because you could get caught, right?
And you wouldn't, you wouldn't have time to put your everything on, you know?
Yeah, I'm sure that was.
Part of the fun of that.
I actually did that before with someone.
So I kind of had a little courage to do it again.
Yeah, no, that's balzy and naughty.
So there you are totally naked in the movie theater, in between this couple.
And what goes down?
We were making out to starts.
Then I went down, basically I went down on Bill.
Mm-hmm.
And Lindsay was basically watching.
just still touching me, feeling me up.
And this is so funny and so cute.
Maybe not to other people, but.
I can't wait to hear.
So just maybe, I want to say maybe less than two minutes of going down on Bill.
Bill basically shoots his load in my face.
And we basically felt so.
embarrassed by that. He kept on saying, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't need to. I didn't need
to stay to not warn me. To me, I just thought it was so cute the way Bill was saying how
he's sorry he was. Right. He was being thoughtful. I didn't mind at all. Yeah. Uh-huh.
So, um, basically we, we, are you jerking off? No, I'm not. What's that noise? What's that
fucking noise? I'm just a little bit nervous. Okay. I hear something moving back.
and forth really fast. I'm like, please, I just can't have anyone jerking off while they're talking to me.
Okay. I'm actually a little nerves holding the phone. That's, that's...
Okay, I heard something moving fast, okay? So, you know...
No, I'm actually just moving the phone a lot. Okay. Okay. Don't jerk the phone off and don't jerk your dick off. Okay. Just tell me the story.
Jerk off when you listen to the story later, okay?
No, I, that's why I want to hold it down because I am actually really nervous talking about this.
Okay.
okay is all right to put some try to put it down put the phone down sure okay i'm going to try to put
put it down right here is this okay yeah that's fine okay i'm sorry no i really am it's my my hands are
really nervous i've i've never over explaining don't worry you okay keep going okay so shoes
and you're just being so cute and from there i think we just know uh we sat there together
I was just, you know, seeing they're naked.
We're talking for a little bit.
And, you know, they decided, you know, they want to invite me to their house on the weekend.
And I said yes.
Did you do anything to the woman or just no?
She just watched.
No, she, it was, Lindsay, at, Lindsay actually likes to watch.
I guess I should, I guess I kind of should explain a little bit more about Bill and Lindsay's backstory first.
Mm-hmm.
So I guess Bill Lindsay's story starts in Kentucky.
Bill was a young cadet in a military academy and she really gay.
And Lindsay, who was living in the town as near by this academy,
and this is her own words, not mine,
but she kind of views herself as the town tramp.
So one night while Bill was on a weekend past
Lindsay was actually being gangraged by four men
So Bill basically
Beech the shadow of those four men
Takes Lindsay's at a hospital
And from that point on he's been by her side ever since
Oh wow okay so he caught that happening in action
by accident, whatever,
rescued her, and then she,
they wind up dating, getting married.
He was gay, though, and then, but actually...
He was gay, and Lizzie knew right away that he was gay,
but that really didn't matter to her.
She's told me that Bill was the first man
that has ever treated her good.
Mm-hmm.
And basically, they kind of had this arrangement in their marriage.
As a gay man in the military, Lindsay provided cover for him.
And because of that, he was able to rise through the ranks and retire at a really high rank.
For Lindsay, Bill provided security and stability in her life that she never really had.
But did they have sex?
So some part of her arrangement is Lindsay,
wanted to have a son, and along with wanting to have children,
they were supposed to have really sex on their anniversary.
So what happened was they didn't get a chance to have a son.
They instead had three daughters.
There's maybe too much information, but one of their daughters passed away very young.
Lindsay also had quite a number of miscarriages, but by that point,
I think they stopped trying to have children.
But as far as how often they had sex,
they almost really never had sex only on their anniversary.
Who was she being intimate with?
Like he was gay, right?
So was he having sex with men and she was having sex with other men too?
I mean, what was going on with them if they weren't having sex with each other?
So, so Lindsay is straight.
and since she met Bill, she actually never strayed with anybody else.
So she had sex once a year with him?
Yes.
Not in, maybe there would be some years where she doesn't have sex at all.
He's been deployed overseas quite a few times.
But yeah, she, according to Lindsay, she's been very faithful to Bill.
So she's just not that into sex?
I mean, who could go in years without sex?
She just jerked off all the time?
No, she's always wanted to have sex, but I think she, like I said, in her past, she's been
very promiscuous at a very young age.
She really got beaten almost an inch to her life.
And Bill saved her, and I guess she was just basically, you know, maybe the trauma of that
situation made her not as interested as in sex, or maybe she, you know,
The safety of not having to do it with him all the time was kind of maybe safe for her.
No, she's always been interested in sex.
It's just I think she wanted to be faithful to Bill.
And Bill, who's very guarded about his sexuality, especially being in the military with the whole Don't Ask Don't Tell was very, very secretive about that.
but I do know that Bill
he's had
he's had sexual encounters with men
just not many
but
but
it really wasn't until I showed up in
that both Lindsay and Bill
were really more sexually active
okay
so how old were they when they met
Bill was I want to say he was 19
Lindsay was a little bit older
I think she was like 26 or 27
So they were together till their 60s
And before that they had sex maybe six times
And their whole lot like I mean
So they're throughout all those years
They only fuck once a year
Until she's like 60
And then they decide to start having fun
There was definitely a lot
In between the well they did have
they did try to have children
but
through
events
they stopped
Bill was deployed
he did serve in
both Iraq wars
the first one
right so he wasn't around a lot and stuff
okay I don't want to harp on this but I don't know
that just seems odd to me
but you know
it's
you know I don't know
but then they all
and then they go online looking
for a guy for him, but also for a guy for her, right?
Like all of a sudden she's 60 and menopause and now she wants to fuck?
Yeah.
Okay.
They, again, they were, Bill was starting to, starting his semi-retirement.
Mm-hmm.
And they were starting a new, they were just basically ready to start a new life.
And they wanted to bring another person into their family.
Yeah.
So they put this ad out.
Mm-hmm. But I mean, he wanted her to be with men, too, right? Do you wind up? I mean, you went into this whole backstory on them because I had asked you whether you were going to fool around with her too, right? So you did, right? Okay. So, yeah, I do want to explain a little bit about that. Okay. Yeah. So, well, Bill and I connected really quickly. We were very sexual, almost right away. But when it came with, you.
with me and Lindsay, it was a little bit slower.
It really wasn't until maybe a month or two months that we finally,
finally were, Lindsay and I were sexual with one another.
But during that time, we actually had a lot of threesomes.
Lindsay was very comfortable having sex with me as long as Bill was there.
So we've, we've been having three sums since we met,
since after a coffee shop, the movie theater experience.
But when it came to spontaneous sex or just sex with just one of the other,
Bill and I, we did that quite often.
It just wasn't until months later that Lindsay felt a little bit more comfortable,
being a little bit more intimate just with me.
Hope that makes sense.
Yeah, I mean, that's the way it went down.
So, but when was your first threesome with them at their house?
Yeah, it was pretty much right away.
We, um, we, um, we saw each other on pretty much every weekend.
Mm-hmm.
The, the school that I was attending actually wasn't really close to their home.
It was actually 50 miles away, so it was a bit of a commute.
So you would just see them on the weekends?
I'll just see them on the weekends, but by a time, about month into it, I just, you know,
they, they suggested that I basically,
move in with them and so I did.
So now you're commuting back to,
from school back and forth every day
for a three, like an hour each way?
Yeah, like that.
Mm-hmm. Okay.
But, um,
we basically were living together.
We were spending a lot of time,
having a lot of sex.
We were basically,
um, boyfriend and girlfriend
uh,
for,
I want to say a year
two years.
It wasn't really until
when this COVID thing happened
that we were all locked in.
We couldn't really go out.
We couldn't go on vacation that
we kind of started about talking about
maybe
sharing vows.
Because during that time
when it was just the three of us
it was, we actually felt
we felt comfortable doing this.
we
actually got along really well
we weren't at each other's roads
it just kind of made sense
that we wanted to
make this a little bit more permanent
so we did talk a lot
about maybe exchanging
it would never be legal it would just be
a promise with the three
of us
but
right now
at the beginning of the year
Bill got a job back east
and because of the nature of his job
only
Lindsay can go with him
and I'm basically back
here basically at their home and
basically stop with the basically oh my god
you just said it five times in one sentence
I'm sorry
I'm pretty sure I'm not a very good interviewer
no no the please stop
I cut a lot of this kind of stuff out of
of everyone's episode.
You did tell me, though, that their daughters know about you.
Yes.
Because already you're jumping to the end where, like, you know, you guys split up and
this is long distance at this point.
But in the middle, while you're having threesomes and all this is going on, like,
how does it happen that their daughters find out about you?
And how long, because you saw them for years, right?
Yes, we've been together for four years.
Right.
Okay.
So how do, how does it happen that?
their daughters find out or they tell them.
Their daughters already known that their dad was gay.
It's, there's several reasons why something that has to do with that in case they need it to
cover for their dad.
They can maybe provide an alibi for certain things, but they've been always very honest
with their two daughters about their dad being gay.
And they knew right away who I was when,
when we first introduced.
So it was never really hidden to them.
So, but did they know that you're also, I mean,
because it's one thing to know that your dad's gay and now,
okay, this is like his boyfriend.
But did they also know that you were having a relationship with the mother too?
They do.
They're very,
they know everything about their mom and dad are doing.
And they're fine with it.
I get along well with both of them.
Yeah.
Are they around your age?
No, they're actually a few years older than me.
I think their oldest is eight years older than me.
Right.
But they have families of their own.
They actually have grandchildren,
and which I play with them.
I get along with their family.
All of us, we get along really well.
But nobody else besides the immediate family knows about you.
No.
And they're the only one.
And so nobody else in their family knows that he's gay
and she's his beard.
I mean.
Yeah.
So Bill is very guarded about his sexuality because of his nature of his job.
The people that he work with and neighbors or very close friends don't know that Bill is gay.
So I guess you can say we kind of developed personas for certain situations, whether it be public situations or private situations.
Right.
And when we're dealing with friends that come over that don't know our situation,
immediately I'm always referred to as the college student that's renting a house out back.
Right.
And we basically just play that role.
We basically act as that was the case.
When we're in public with strangers or people we don't know,
because of the age different, but because I'm Asian and they're white, it just felt, it was just easier that we just tell strangers that, that, oh, they're my adopted parents and I'm their adopted son. We definitely get a lot of curiosities our way, especially when we go to restaurants. Many times when we would sit at a booth, I would be sitting with Lindsay on one side of the booth and Bill on the other, and when Bill will go,
up to use a restroom.
The waitress would come by and would wonder why I was sitting next to Lindsay.
So it's not until Bill shows up,
then I guess they kind of realize,
oh, we're probably a family.
Right, and that's the way you would play it because you look so much younger.
But the daughters knew.
And he's gay.
I mean, when you have threesomes,
what exactly is going down?
You're fooling around with the both of them,
but they're not really fooling around with each other?
Like what sexually, like what happens exactly?
So, so mostly it is a three-way sexual relationship.
I will say that I have more interaction with Lindsay than Bill has interaction with Lindsay when the three of us are together.
Bill and I definitely have a lot of, a lot of sexual contact.
with Bill and Lindsay, they've just, they've gone used to each other.
I wouldn't say that Bill was sexually attracted to Lindsay, but they, but he's familiar with her.
So it's not uncomfortable for her to have sex with his wife.
Mm-hmm.
But he's gay.
I mean, you refer to him as being gay so many times, but he'll, like, he'll have sex with her.
Is he maybe bisexual like you?
Or is he more gay?
And that's the thing.
Bill always refers to himself as gay.
Lindsay and I, we kind of think maybe he is by.
It's honestly, we don't really care.
Right.
What does it matter?
Right.
But in terms of intimacy,
Bill and Lindsay, they definitely do love each other.
They are best friends.
They do consider themselves soulmates.
But when it comes to sexual attraction,
Lindsay does have a sexual attraction towards Bill.
Bill, not so much with Lindsay, but
the sex is really
in Bill's mind more out of
a duty as a husband
more than
a desire to have sex with his wife.
I don't know if that makes any sense.
More like he's just honoring his duty
like you said as I like it.
Yeah, Bill's very traditional.
He grew up in a very
restrict
environment with
certain roles and
expectations, a very
old-fashioned person.
And that's just basically what he did.
He's, because
he's the husband, he's supposed to do certain things.
But
like I said, the reason they wanted to bring in
another buy mail was, like I said, to also
fulfill Bill's needs and to fulfill
Lindsay's needs as well.
Right. And you were attracted to Lindsay.
So you, well, that's why I asked what's going down in this threesome.
You're having sex with her.
You're having sex with him.
And they're also having sex.
Or is it more so you're satisfied with them?
It's usually, it's mainly when the three of us are together.
There is more three-way connection.
Not so, when it comes to just Lindsay and Bill, that doesn't happen as much.
In fact, it doesn't really happen at all until once it's on their anniversary.
Right, that anniversary sucks.
They have.
Let me ask you this.
Did you fall in love with the both of them at the same time?
Or did you fall more for, you know, Bill and then fall for Lindsay?
Because that's how you, you know, your attraction with?
I will say I definitely fell in love with Bill first.
Bill and I, we definitely had a lot more chemistry to start.
Like I said, Bill really.
likes traditional roles and whenever I'm with him, I'm very feminine around him and I think he likes that.
And I like being feminine around him.
So we get along a lot.
We are compatible sexually.
He's more of a top.
I'm definitely a bottom.
We enjoy a lot of the experimentings that we did build and we have a lot of experience as a gay man.
had a few and with me he was able to we were able to do a lot of experimenting
what would you experiment with well we've actually hired male escorts we've had
group sex that's so that's one one of things we've we've experimented with and we've
we've always enjoyed it we've Bill basically was able to be more in touch with his
gay side that
than he's had before.
Right.
Maybe he didn't feel as safe doing it.
Not safe, but like he didn't have the balls by himself,
but maybe you helped him because you were there too.
Yes.
To fulfill his fantasies.
How many guys at a time would you guys hire?
Well, so that's also a thing.
We did hire one guy at first.
Some of it, some of the issue was with Lindsay.
I want to least explain a little bit about Lindsay first.
Yeah.
So, as I said before, Lindsay has PTSD from her rape experience.
Yeah.
So it also was really hard at first for Lindsay and I to be intimate or being sexual right
away.
But when we started spending a lot of time together, talking to each other, becoming really close
friends, that's kind of when we started becoming very intimate with other and being very sexual.
And when we started to bring a male escort, we kind of had to bring one person at first because for Lindsay, she does not want to be the center of attention.
She prefers watching gay sex for us having sex.
So if there's a lot of men around, she does not want to be surrounded by men.
It kind of brings too much memories back with her.
Right.
That makes sense.
Uh-huh.
So when we do bring a male escort, it's usually Bill and I who are basically having fun, having a lot of sex, and Lindsay just watching.
And really, her participation is just with me at this point.
Occasionally Bill would have sex with her, but she knows.
never touches any of the male escorts we bring into our bed.
Right.
We only had, we only hired two guys to come.
That was actually the most we've ever had.
We never had this big orgy or anything like that.
Mm-hmm.
It was just, it was just four men and, and one woman.
That was through the most that we ever did.
Right.
So she's there and then you guys all fooled around the four of you.
yes
did you ever go back to the movies did the movie kind
did the movie scenario play out again
because you you know no
we never
they always
they thought that I actually planned that
I actually didn't
it was just a spontaneous
suggestion that I had something that actually I did
prior I wasn't really planning
that at all but no we never had a chance
to do that again right
but you did plan it in that you didn't
want to go to the movies with them to
watch a movie. You wanted to go to the movies with them to hook up because you had hooked up
with someone else in the movies and it was the broad daylight and you figured that's the best
place to go. Cheaper than a hotel probably, right? Yeah. It was just we were getting
really, we're getting along really well. We've definitely a little electricity between the three of us.
And I just thought, why waste that energy? And I just quickly suggested it just popped in my mind
and they said, yes, let's just do that. Right. So now when you would sleep, when you lived with
them, right? You slept in the same
did you all sleep in the bed together?
Did you and Bill sleep and Lindsay
someplace else? No, we
all slept in the same bed.
It's, again, that's just
Bill's traditional.
That's what you're expected to do, sleep in the
same bed with your wife.
That's basically what
we did. I did
have my own room. I did have my own place
for a private space
for myself, but
every night I always
go to them. I always sleep with them.
Mm-hmm.
And now, so you were ready to get
together and get married, right?
And exchange vows and all that?
And what stopped that from happening?
COVID, is that what happened? And he got this job?
So, yeah,
we were, it was during COVID, we were really
talking about maybe making
this a permanent thing.
But those plans change at the
beginning of the year.
Bill was heavily recruited for
a job and he took it because it was very important and now they're living in the east coast.
Unfortunately, I can't join them. So we're now actually in a long distance relationship.
I face time with Lindsay almost every day, a few times a week with Bill, but that's basically
where we're at right now, just a long distance relationship. They were supposed to, you know,
to have come back this spring, but they had to cancel it.
So their next plan of coming back will be at the end of summer.
And it's just been really a lonely time for me just to be by myself in this house that we used to share.
Right.
Now, did they give you the house?
Do they plan to come back?
What's the deal with you being in the house and them being there?
The job in the East Coast is not going to be permanent.
It's they they gave them a place to live as part of their job that Bill got.
And I'm just basically taking care of the house until they return.
But when are they going to return?
Three years, three months?
Four years maybe longer.
I don't really know.
Oh, okay.
So what are you, what are your plans?
Well, I did take a year off from school because of COVID.
and I haven't decided on if I'm going to go back to school this fall.
I probably will, but who knows?
I really haven't put much thought onto it.
No, but as far as them, like, and as far as dating in your intimate, you know,
relationships, like, you know, here it is you were, like, in love with this couple, right?
They moved.
They might not be back for four years.
You're still, like, living, though, in the house, right?
So that must be weird and sad.
Like, you know, something's like missing.
I mean, it's like, you know, this place, this house is a place where you had this
relationship, right?
And now you're still like, there's someplace else, right?
Some place new.
But you're like still in the place where everything used to be so different.
And now they're gone, but you're still in that house.
You know, how are you coping and what are you looking for?
I mean, are you waiting for them to come home and visit?
Are you waiting four years for them to come back?
the plan is for them to come back.
It's just been really hard because I do miss them a lot.
But I keep myself busy.
There are things that I do, things that can be occupied.
No, but I mean, are they supposed to come back and visit on, like, do you guys discuss anything?
Like, oh, they'll come back on every weekend or once a month.
I mean, how are you going to make it through four years of not, you know, being in the same place?
Like, well, as I said, they were supposed to come back.
to visit this spring, but they had to cancel.
And they're trying to make arrangements for the end of the summer to come back for maybe like a month.
Okay.
So, yes, I know I would love for them to be able to come back every weekend, but that's not going to happen.
Right.
But so you just plan on waiting for them to come back in four years?
So for four years, you plan on just waiting for them?
Something that Lindsay and I, we talk on the phone every day about, they did tell me if I wanted to, I could see somebody else, but I've made it very clear to them. I don't want to see anybody else. I just want to be with them. And they are also in the same feeling as me.
And we just, we want to, we want to wait this thing out and see, see if this can happen again.
But let me ask you a question. Why can't you, when you're done with you?
school or I don't know move closer to where they are you don't have to move in with them right but can't
you be in the area so that's not long distance i i don't want to get into too detail about bill's job
but it does involve uh security clearance so i i it's for to keep bills identity safe i it's best
that i keep my distance so you can't even be in the same town i can't so all right you don't
have to tell me what he does, though I'm dying to know. So for whatever reason, like you can never
move to them. They're only going to come back and visit every now and then. Have you like is you,
you want to remain faithful to them, right? You're still in love with them. Are you devastated
that they left? I was. We were all devastated, but, but Bill had to answer, he had to take
this job. And I wanted to support him on it on his decision.
And Lindsay and I both wanted this as well.
Does your family know anything about all of this?
Lindsay's family.
No, you, your family.
It's only my mom.
And you don't like her.
Yes.
I don't talk to her much.
Right.
She does know about my relationship.
Not all the details.
It's just that I'm a bisexual who is in a relationship.
shit with the man and the woman. That's all she knows. Right. Do you feel like maybe because you don't have any
family that, you know, the fact that they said that they wanted somebody to be a part of their family?
I mean, that was something that you said really stood out to you when you read that ad. Like,
not only did they want someone to come into their relationship, they wanted this person to be a part of
their family. And, you know, did that, do you think that that was so appealing to you because
you lack that in your life? That's definitely a part of the, um, um, um, um, um, a part of the,
part of the reason maybe.
I grew up with only my mom.
I don't know who my dad is.
And my mom
had me when she was very young.
And she really wasn't
there for me. She was kind of an absentee parent.
So I basically grew up on my own
and going through all the things
that I had to discover on my own
about who I am,
without my mom or without anybody really telling me, you know, helping me out.
So, yeah.
Bill and Lindsay, I guess they also had their issues about, for Bill, his sexuality with Lindsay
and her issues with trauma and my issues of basically wanting to be close to a family.
I guess we all wanted us,
we all wanted to sub-tune each other.
Right, it all worked for all of you.
I mean, that's why you were attracted to them.
That's what they were looking for because I would think that, you know,
if I understand why they connected, right,
especially because of how they met and everything.
But I also understand why they might have went looking for a third person
because there was a slight disconnect there
because, you know, he's more gay, right?
And she's straight, but so they don't,
you know, they're not really giving each other all of that, right?
They're just having sex like once a year, whatever.
So I would, I would, and he's, because you said he claims to be, you know, he sort of says that he's gay.
I would think that he would need a man in his life, right?
That something would be missing just having Lindsay, right?
And for Lindsay, something because she's heterosexual, something would be missing for her because she just has Bill.
And that's why you coming in would be, you know, exactly what they both needed,
something more, a little bit more.
Again, so Bill did try to find, he did try to find someone before earlier,
but it never worked out for a number of reasons.
One of them was in Bill's second tour in Iraq, an ID exploded.
And left of his body was burned.
And Bill's been really sensitive about that.
He's been very subconscious about other men seeing those scars.
And it really wasn't until I came into it like that.
He finally was more secure, I guess you can say,
probably more comfortable in his own skin.
I remember when we hired a first male escorts,
and he was having sex with him with a shirt on.
It wasn't until a few times we hired all the escorts that he was comfortable enough to actually take his shirt off.
So I think there was definitely a lot of, a lot of growth for him,
and he's coming to acceptance about his insecurities with his scars and, you know, being a gay man.
Right, right.
So, but with you, was he that way?
No, he said that he felt really comfortable with me,
that a lot of the things that he was afraid to do,
he was very comfortable doing it with me.
And I was always comfortable being with him.
We just connected in a lot of ways.
We were very compatible with one other.
And if he had any desire to do something,
I was always gun cold for it.
I was always ready to, let's just try that.
Let's just have some fun.
Right.
But I mean, was he weirded out about taking his top off or anything like that with you?
No, that's the thing.
Even when we first had sex, he did what he was a little bit nervous.
But when he took his shirt off, I assured him that he was still the most beautiful man I've ever seen.
and that kind of eased him
and he's never had an issue since.
Right.
But again, with other men,
it's been really difficult for him
to take his shirt off
until, unless I'm there,
unless I'm there,
he feels a little bit more comfortable.
Right. Even though he was this really handsome guy,
right, to you,
you looked at him from the outside looking in
and you saw him as really hot, right?
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
And it sounds like you really really,
looked up to them and really admired them and was really smitten with them straight from the
gecko which probably was made them feel more made him feel more secure with you right
i do i do um i think i learned more about life from them than anything i could have learned in
school and i know they always keep telling me no school is important but i really do think that
that having them giving me a little bit of their guidance was also just as much of an education
But you're done with school now?
I'm actually one more year away.
Had it not been for what happened with this whole pandemic,
I would have graduated.
So hopefully I can continue that this fall.
Haven't decided yet.
Right.
Well, and they're allowing you to just stay in their house indefinitely.
So you have a place, right?
I mean, that's pretty good for you.
Yes.
You kind of locked out.
I mean, as a young guy who, you know, it's a hard time to get out there and get a gig now,
a COVID and everything and college is done. So at least you have a free place to stay.
Yes. And again, I wouldn't, I would never do this. I wrote this in my email to them saying that
that I would never freeload off of them. I'd always work. I always pay my own way. And I actually
do. I have my, I have my own job or means to take care of myself. So.
I'm not entirely dependent on them.
It just happens that they want to share this with me.
Right.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Well, good luck with everything.
I mean, this is like a fascinating story.
I think it's a little sad that they moved away,
but you seem okay with it now.
I think, you know, I wish if I was your mother,
I know you don't have a close,
but if like you were my son, you're a young guy,
you know, I would hope that for you,
because you have your whole life ahead of you,
that, you know, you might eventually look to move on and find maybe a new couple to be with,
somebody who you could have like a real relationship and, you know, a future, maybe children of your own and stuff moving forward in your life.
Because you're, you know, you have so much ahead of you. You're super young. And, you know, whether it's, you know,
waiting around for them or, you know, maybe you'll meet a guy that you really like or like another couple.
You know, I would hope that eventually you get back out there.
Again, that's what we definitely talked about this past year.
We can't beat around the bush the age difference between us.
They asked me if I still want to have children, and I've kind of been really wish you
watching on that answer.
The truth is I've made my choice.
I want to be with them, and however long that takes, I don't care.
Right.
I'm in love with them.
I don't want to ever leave them.
And I think they feel the same way with me.
But they did kind of leave you.
I mean, they lived like they're totally in another side of the country
and you're not going to see them for four years.
Yeah, I know.
It's hopefully it's something that's just a bump in our relationship
or something that we can, you know,
we can learn from.
I don't know how to say this.
But yeah, it's, I do miss them and I know they miss me,
but it's just something that we're going to see if we can work through this.
Right.
So for you, it's okay just talking to her on the phone every day
and seeing them once or twice a year.
Yeah, it's something that I'm still dealing with,
but I'm going to work with it.
I know there are a lot of people who have long-distance relationships
and I guess I'm no different than them.
Yeah, cool.
Well, listen, I wish you, like I said, the best of luck.
You never know what will happen.
You're super young.
You know, four years go.
When you're young, I feel like four years seems like your fucking life.
Okay.
At my age, four years goes by in two seconds.
For you, I think it's, I don't know how you think four years.
You could just sit around waiting for them.
But the fact that you're totally cool with it, that's great, you know.
And I wish you all the best.
best because, you know, who knows what's going to happen. But like I, like I said, consider yourself
lucky. You do have a free place to go. You have this couple. They'll probably always be in your life.
But, you know, keep yourself open. You never know you might meet somebody else while you're waiting.
Sure. Let me know if you do. But thanks so much for calling in and sharing this story. It's super
interesting. Thank you. I, again, I hope this is this went well because, like I said, I was really
nervous in the beginning.
I know I was rambling a lot and you kept using,
saying the same words over and over again.
Basically, no, don't worry.
You actually didn't say it that much anymore, like towards the end.
Don't worry, it was all good.
Wait till you hear me edited.
It'll be perfect.
Okay.
I hope it turned out well because in my mind, I didn't think I did really well at all.
No, you did.
Wait till you hear it back.
It's always ten times more interesting when you hear your story and your
yourself, you know, listening to it back. Don't worry. It was great. Thank you so much for calling in and being
so honest with everything. Okay. Oh, thank you very much. You too. Thanks, JD. Bye. All right. Bye.
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