Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 413 - Joe Loves Being a Cuckold

Episode Date: October 4, 2021

Joe loves being a cuckold and he calls in to not only talk all about it but also to help you learn more about cuckolding in general. When did he first realize he was into cuckolding? What was his firs...t cuckold experience? And, did it involve humiliation? Tune in to find out plus hear all about exactly where the term cuckold comes from, whether it has to involve humiliation and how it's different from swinging, how he convinced most of his partners to hook up with other men, how him and his first wife started at swingers clubs, what they did there and how he eventually got her to have sex with other guys without him, her long term sexual and emotional relationships with the other guys and how that helped their sex life, how his current wife isn't into cuckolding yet but how and why he believes he can change her mind, why he's never had any issues with his partners being with other people, his tips on how to be a good cuckold, when and how to tell your partner you're into it, how to smooth things over if your partner gets upset, how and why it can help your relationship and a whole lot more.  He also, wants to help you, so, if you need some cuckolding advice email him! Teachu2bacuck@gmail.com **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. Today I have on, I'm going to get just right to my guest. I'm trying to do a quicker intro. Today I have on a guy named Joe. Now, I tried to keep this as an informational episode, all about cuckolding. Okay, Joe is like a cuckled expert. He really is. He's been doing, he's been into being a cuckled since he was very young. He talks a little bit about his history, right? But what he mostly talks about is what cuckolding is about, how to get your girl into cuckolding. He has told, he bragged on the episode that he literally got every woman who has said no to him, because most
Starting point is 00:01:26 women will say, no, I'm not going to fuck other guys for you. And he got every single one that said no to change their mind, including his ex-wife. He's working on his second wife right now and all his other girlfriends. And he gives, you know, tips on how to do that what he did. He's very into helping people get into cuckolding. He does give a shout out with an email. Okay, you got to listen for that. It's in the episode he talks about. He created an email just for this so that anybody listening to this episode that wants to bring it up to their girl, their partner, whether they're been in a relationship for a long time or in a new relationship, he is willing and into actually helping you and giving you advice on how to do it. Because like I said, and like he's going to tell you in
Starting point is 00:02:08 this episode, he's done it many times. He's talked to his ex-wife, you know, from not being into it to having a full-blown relationship with a guy. And that lasted for years. And it only added to his, their sex life. He loves being a cuckled. There's no humiliation involved in his cuckling situation. And he explains like the difference about that and what cuckolding means and how it's different than swinging and all that good stuff. So I'm going to be right back on with Joe. Hey Joe, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Good and yourself. How are you? I'm good. So listen, you found me on YouTube, right? We were talking about cuckling. I did. I think I did a YouTube live, right?
Starting point is 00:02:55 And I'm like, oh, let's talk about cuckolding. And because someone said, like, do a topic that's hot, right? And do a live on it. And I did. And then I realized, like, I don't know anything about cuckolding. I thought I could just, like, talk on it. But I really couldn't, you know, and I think that you had chimed in and you were explaining. Because I got into like the difference between like a cuckold and swingers, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:13 and I was very confused about it. And you were explaining it to me. And I was like, oh, you know, maybe you'd want to come on and do a cuckolding 101 kind of informational podcast. Most of the time I'm talking to people about their life. and I really shy away or I don't try, I try to make it very personal, right, and keep the, you know, the bigger sort of picture out of it. With you, we'll get a little personal too, but I would like to do a show and focus a lot with
Starting point is 00:03:38 you on teaching people the difference, what it means, you know, like a cuckold 101 kind of course here on my show today. I normally don't do stuff like that, but I think it might be interesting because it is a very hot topic. most definitely is you know it's a frightening that's the amount of men I know who actually want to be able to see their women with another man I know you would think that all men have this fantasy of wanting to be with two women at the same time but um in all honesty I've actually done that already and the thing about it is that it's a lot of work for the guy oh my god that's so funny right yeah you know but um but again you know what uh it's definitely it's definitely extremely hot, outrageous in terms of, you know, the fact that, you know, you've got somebody in front of you that you adore and love with all your heart that is now being your most
Starting point is 00:04:34 favorite porn star. So. Right. I guess that's the way you look at it. Yeah, it was, I have to say, you know, when I first started my show, this was one of the things that was the biggest surprise to me. Besides, I've had a lot of other surprises, right? But this was one of the biggest because I had always had a lot of guy friends. And because I was very open sexually, and I'm a little bit like a dude, you know, when I'm with my guy friends, I could talk like a guy, right? So I always felt like they were super honest with me and not one ever cop to the fact that they wanted their girl or me to fuck somebody else, right? I had never heard that from any guy. And like I said, I knew a lot of guys. I slept with a lot of guys. And guys really confided in me. Yet it was nothing that I had ever
Starting point is 00:05:18 heard of before until I started my show. And then, you know, when I started to get the callers on that would talk about it, I would go back to my guy friends and be like, can you believe? And they'd be like, I would never, I'd be too jealous, blah, blah, blah. But you know, maybe I just don't know any of these guys because when I put out an episode, let me tell you, it is downloaded probably the most. It is probably the most downloaded topic or fetish. I don't know. What do you call it? Is it a fetish, right? More of a lifestyle. A lifestyle. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, and mindset. More of a lifestyle and mindset. How did you get into it and how did you know? Because like, listen, I've had, wait, hold on. Alexa, turn off. I mean, she just thought I was talking to her. She starts fucking talking. I should leave that in.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's like a funny blooper. Wait a second. So like, um... How did I figure out? Yeah, how did you figure out? Because I have had on a lot of guys right on my show that, you know, some of them knew exactly what they were looking for and this is something that they were into and then they got their girl to do it and then there are some guys that it sort of happened and they
Starting point is 00:06:27 would have never thought it was something that they were into but when it did happen they were like holy shit this really turns me on like which guy were you um to be honest to be honestly it was more of a matter of having a weird understanding that it turned me on early on so you know like uh yeah I did. You know, right out of high school kind of thing. You know, my first relationship, I had an opportunity to share her with a good buddy of mine. It didn't, you kind of fell through.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But, you know, again, my first relationship, I was already kind of on it. Right. So what was it, like a drunken thing that you said that you had this opportunity that you were going to share her with your buddy? How did that come about? And why did it go south? Yeah, just about. You know, it's one of the things where the three of us, we took a,
Starting point is 00:07:16 road trip out to go gambling in the gambling town. We stayed the night. We shared a room. And unfortunately, I was the one who was a bit more drunk than they were. But, you know, I started making out with her, started touching her, fondling her. And he was there watching and enjoying. And in all honesty, I know that she would have been down for it too. So, you know, but it didn't end up happening. I forgot exactly why it, why it's whizzled out at the last minute, but it did, unfortunately. So you just couldn't make it happen, but after that incident, you knew it turned you on because, like, you thought about it and the fact that, you know, like you started to sort of fantasize about it. Is that how that experience made you realize that you were into it?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, kind of. It was a matter of also talking with the girl at the time, my girlfriend at the time, and, you know, talking about how it was kind of hot and the fact that she would have been down doing it. Right. You know, it was, it was definitely a second. moment and an eye-opening experience. And then when was the first girlfriend that you did do something like that with? Did you get married and do it with your wife?
Starting point is 00:08:23 I mean, I need a little backstory on you if you're going to teach people or explain cuckolding 101. Or maybe you're not even going to, I don't know. Okay, no problem. Well, just as a quick little snapshot, basically I've shared nearly all the women I've been with. So, you know, and even my joke is that they always say no and they always end up doing it anyway. It's just a matter of how you prod them on to doing it And how you coax them into doing it Oh
Starting point is 00:08:50 Who would Yeah, who wouldn't want sexual freedom And that's just good You know what? You're giving them the opportunity to be loved at home And still be able to have fun outside, right? Right, but listen, I don't think that some people are monogamous Because they're being held back
Starting point is 00:09:04 You know, the fact that you've been able to get every single one of your girls Even the ones that say no to change their mind I mean, you're going to have to tell people how to do that That's going to be a part of your tutorial here, okay? when you're cuckling tutorial. I don't know where to start. I'll leave you an email address. I'll leave an email address for you to post later.
Starting point is 00:09:21 But again, yeah, thing about it is that. And I honestly, I enjoy doing that too because, you know what, it's fun to be able to help people explore and open up their marriages. And in addition of that, it's just a matter of the man wanting the wife to be able to be the one to explore, and he lives his life vicariously through her. And in addition to that, it's also a matter of the man
Starting point is 00:09:43 wanting to prove his love to her by just doing and being above and beyond the better husband to be able to ensure that she stays with him. Now, a lot of people, you know, define cuckolding with the term humiliation. Like that has to be a part of it or else it isn't true cuckolding, right? Is that the case in your scenario or is that not true? First off, the term cuckolding comes from a bird. because there's a bird cuckold that actually the female in the in the pair goes out meets with another male it comes back home lays the eggs while the male bird in the relationship actually you know hatches them oh interesting
Starting point is 00:10:27 yeah so that's where the true nature of cock holding came from a bird okay um when it comes to the humiliation part that has that is a different level of cuckolding you can say because there's so many different facets than a toll deal And, you know, it's all the matter of what really floats your boat and what you both agree upon. You know, so for me, I've done things like I personally have had, you know, a chastity cage on my penis. So, and that was pretty exciting. And this was while the girl I was with would go out with other men. So I can't, I don't consider myself a wimp or, you know, humiliation. It doesn't really turn me on.
Starting point is 00:11:10 But what turns me on is. is having a woman that piques the interest of other men and is willing to also, you know, enjoy, enjoy the sexual aspect of it all of life. Right. And I do, I used to always ask, I don't know if I still do, but, you know, whether the guy is by at all, because I always wondered, is there a correlation to, you know, that meaning like a guy is kind of like when you say living vicariously through that experience, because maybe he has some sort of desire
Starting point is 00:11:43 to be with the man himself and so his girl goes and does that and then I don't know somehow he feels like he was kind of with the guy I don't know you know what I'm talking about because listen that it has been the case that has been the case with some guys yeah
Starting point is 00:11:59 most definitely yeah because some men that's what they want right but actually I had one of these girlfriends of mine who you know I did share her with you know she was the next girlfriend after the first experience who actually I did share her with another guy. And I'll tell you about that experience of just a little bit here,
Starting point is 00:12:16 because there's a lesson to it too. But she had actually, we were friends for a good long time before we actually started a relationship up. And she liked me, and she actually had her gay friends turned their gait-ar on me to see if I was just gay, and that's the reason why I didn't make a move on her. And she's told me that her male friends or male gay friends said that, nope, he's not gay as far as I'm concerned.
Starting point is 00:12:41 You know, so it's not for me personally, it's not a matter of being gay, even though I don't have an issue like touching another man's penis, like guiding him into my girl's, you know, vagina kind of thing. Or I've considered, I wonder what it would be like to suck a man's penis, but it is not something that I totally desire. Right. But again, with regards to the other sexual aspects of being homosexual, none of that really floats by boat.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's not my thing. And I saw a video of some guys kissing him. I was like, uh, no, not, not for me. No, but I was like more bisexual or someone who's just maybe, you know, I don't know, there's so many terms nowadays. So what would hetero flexible? You know, somebody who's, you know, sexually attracted to women, but also maybe every now and then might be sexually attracted to someone of the, you know, the same sex, like another guy,
Starting point is 00:13:31 if you're a guy, right? So, and I always wonder if a cuckled person, right, you being the male, you know, you like to see your woman. with another man because there is an aspect to a man that is arousing in that experience too, not just the girl. You know, some guys say yes, some guys say no, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You're absolutely right. And I think that majority of the men will say no. Right. No, I get a lot of guys that say yes, actually. I get a lot of guys say yes. Yeah, but the thing about it is that a good majority of the men that are in a situation are in a full-fledged relationship with their woman.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Well, they're telling me, you have to understand, they're talking to me, okay? And so they're telling me, their deepest secrets. So they're going to cop to the stuff. So, you know, maybe a man would say no to his girl, okay, but he tells me yes, because he knows it's like a safe place. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're absolutely right. Actually, as you mentioned, a safe place. I spent some time on some, you know, cuckold chat rooms and end up people's brains and enjoy, you know, chatting with them and getting their stories and their background and everything else. And because they opened up to me pretty well. And a good majority of these people is just a matter of them. Actually, this gets to
Starting point is 00:14:46 a lot of other aspects of the cuckold experience. For example, sperm competition. Have you heard about this? No. Okay. Spirm competition. Actually, there was a study in England, actually that had studied a dozen couples, and they noticed that if a woman were to to leave on a business trip, the man's sperm count would actually go up, increase. Aside from the fact that he's not getting any, but his sperm count would increase just due to the fact that psychologically, we're built to be able to mate with our women and for our women to carry our children. So we need to increase our sperm count just in case you went out and, you know, copulated with another man. You know, had sex with another man, you know, took on the sperm and is now possibly carrying his baby.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Now, again, our sperm counts go down, go up. the stud syndrome stud syndrome cows you cannot put a cow a male a bull to mate with only one female cow because his sperm count actually dropped because there's no variety in life for him
Starting point is 00:15:52 and he needs that is what you're saying so he needs that you're absolutely right and men do to a certain extent too but at the same time if we're committed in a relationship that we just are fully committed in with this person you know again living our life vicariously through her where, you know, what my sperm count goes up.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I ejaculate. I come harder. And you know what? I have this nervous energy when she's out. And, you know, and then again, to be able to prove my worth to her, I'll go and clean the house. I'll take care of laundry. You know, I put this nervous energy to good use while she's out on a date. And that's, personally, I used to enjoy my ex-wife going out on dates.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And the reason why was because getting back to my experience with my second girlfriend, that I mentioned is a learning experience was the fact that it was that her again her and I had sex we started having sex my buddy was there he stripped down he was into it she was into it I actually end up coming inside her the first first round and I'm laying next to them watching them doing it and you know when that happens the passion kind of goes away real quick so me being the young guy that I am I actually stop it right there you know I stopped him from screwing my girl and I'm like okay you know it was a matter of again the passion just having dwindled quickly because I came so that's why again I'd much rather have my girl go out and you know and then
Starting point is 00:17:21 that way I don't you know I get to enjoy the what she what she's done when she comes back oh okay you don't like to be there and then come and then be like like totally sober and she's fucking somebody else you want to you want to savor that part of the situation, so it's much better to savor it afterwards. Yes, but actually recently I had a threesome and actually I got to enjoy it more and I because of my experience and you know my experiences again that I've learned and I know even if I were to come I'd enjoy it still because again I've matured with regards to my own sexuality and you know and I'm not a 20 year old kid no more.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Right, okay. But there was a time where you did feel that way and that was like very early on when you were learning about yourself and what you were into and what your boundaries were, but they changed as you grew up and became more secure. Exactly. Correct. Right. So how many times have you been married? I'm actually on my second marriage right now.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Now, does this wife go out with other people? No, not as yet. You know what? I've already planted the seed with her and she understands what flows my boat. But, you know what, we have yet to do it. She's much younger than me. And, you know what? I think that sexual, you know, sexuality and how you share things amongst each other is also dictated a lot by culture.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And she's of a different culture. So she's Asian. How old is she and how old are you? She's 28 and I'm 51. Yeah. So there are a few years between us. I'm her second relationship ever. And I'm her husband.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And, you know, she's a wonderful person who I adore and she loves me, and I'm very lucky to be with her. Right, but you're working on her. Correct. Exactly. One thing that I took away from one of your shows was 10 years. And, you know, so I'm playing it cool and enjoying. And, you know, she's learning a lot and she's grown a lot sexually between her and I right now. So, you know, the chick she's now into porn, funny.
Starting point is 00:19:31 She's the one who turns on, she grabs her iPad. And she'll, I want to watch movies. Okay, I know what movie she wants to watch. Right, poor. And she never did that before you. You got her into it? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Right. So, yeah, she gets into it. Yeah, that's cool. So you're working on her. But before that, all your girlfriends and your first wife, you did get. Now, how did you get your first wife into doing it? You did brag about, you know, being able to turn every woman, even the ones who said no, into women who said, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So what would you say? say, you know, how should guys approach it and what, you know, how, how are you successful? Well, the first thing that I always tell a guy, because most guys will say, again, this is from my experience on the chat, in the chat rooms, that most guys will say, oh, she's going to, she's not going to be happy, she's going to be pissed at me and blah, blah, blah. And I said, yeah, you're right. She will be. But just wait.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Let's let it simmer in her head. Then what you do is show her how it turns you on. You know, talk about ex-relationships, past relationship. you know, sexual excapades she may have had and things she had done and what she enjoyed, what she didn't, and, you know, and show her how it turns you on and do that while you're in bed with her and you guys are fucking and show her just how much harder it makes you and how hard and more quickly it makes you come. So, yeah, that's, that's always a good seed to use, you know, just use their own experiences
Starting point is 00:20:57 and talk about what they've done because who doesn't like talking about themselves, really? right but you're talking about yourself to them you're talking about what you've done right is what you're saying no no no oh you want to hear that about them fucking other guys correct right and then you show them how horny you are and how hard you're getting from those stories and then she and so your wife was one of those that said no and then she turned around how let let's talk about that pivotal time like what you know what was that first experience like and what changed her mind and what did you guys do uh you know what she actually again started talking about exes she was actually still a friend of one of her exes so i took the opportunity opportunity because it was an opportunity in time in a situation for her to go out with them
Starting point is 00:21:49 and that ended up being a long-term relationship there for a couple of years where you know she'd go out with them practically every weekend kind of thing and uh so you know, it was the very first time I remember being extremely nervous, watching the clock, you know, listening to every noise in the house to see maybe she's home, you know, jacking off like a half dozen times and, you know, and, like, rubbing off the skin. Yeah. Because you were so horny for what was going on. Because she was not just going out with him.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I mean, she was going out to have sex with him. Correct. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. Okay. She already understood that. And she made it clear.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So, you know, because, of course, she was. She wants to make sure I'm okay with it. And, you know, and from there, it was, you know, it was a downhill, you know, fun rollercoaster. You know, she enjoyed doing it. She kind of looked forward to it, and so did I. And, again, nearly every weekend. And she'd spend a night with them at times. And other times, it was just still hot doing different things.
Starting point is 00:22:52 So, you know, it's, again, very, very, very fun time. And not the reason for our divorce at all. Right, right. And did the guy know? Well, the guy knew that she was married. Right, but did he know that she, did he think she was cheating? Or did he know that she was taking these stories home to turn him on, to turn you on? She, he knew that she, she gave herself a persona that she was cheating on me.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Right. And he probably loved that. Correct, absolutely. And he took advantage of it. And I enjoyed it. So what the hell? I didn't care. Yeah, and again, it turned me on.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You never crossed paths with him, right? So what does it matter? You don't know who this person is, right? Yeah. Correct, correct. Right. Now, so she... I was going to say, I kind of did by the videos that I've seen of them together.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Oh, she would take videos. Yes. And she would bring them back and you guys would watch them and that was like, and so and that guy just thought, oh, my God, he must have been like she's so sloppy. I mean, who cheats and takes videos of it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You know what? And the thing about it was that he was one of these guys that just blows my mind as of the fact that he could like come like five times a night. I'm like, dude, how the fuck do you do that? Right. Yeah, I've known guys like that. It's like hours. I don't like that kind of show. I don't like that kind of show.
Starting point is 00:24:15 We call it the show. I'm not interested in the show, but some girls are. I just, I don't know. No bangs. Yeah, and all nighter. I'm like, oh, damn. My wife appreciates my half an hour of 45 minutes and I'm happy with it too. Yeah, yeah, but so that guy was like putting on a show.
Starting point is 00:24:31 That was the perfect guy for her for you, right? Because you'd get these, you'd get long-ass videos. Exactly, yeah. You know what? Where in the middle of the night, he'd roll over, you know, wake her up and by doing her. So she didn't mind. She didn't say no. She kept going back for more.
Starting point is 00:24:48 So, hey. Now, I have been getting emails recently. I don't know why because I haven't experienced this one before. But, you know, it's the cuckled scenario. where, and I'm just like, could this be true, but I know you're going to know about it, where these partners are looking for their girl to get pregnant by somebody else? I mean, that's like a whole other thing going down. It is.
Starting point is 00:25:11 You're absolutely right. It is. And actually, in all honesty, you know, here I am, 51 years old. I already have two adult children. And I've been cut. I have a vasectomy. And here I am with a younger wife, my second marriage. My vasectomy I had over 15 years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:27 maybe or so, something like that. With the idea that, you know, I got married to stay married and, you know, unfortunately that didn't end up working out. But, you know, again, I'm with a young wife that has no children who has to have a child, you know, she deserved it. So I actually considered that quite a bit. You know, I consider that quite a bit, you know, but now technology has made it where you don't have to do the reversal as much as they can like harvest your sperm out of your
Starting point is 00:25:57 nut sack, you know, and do it in vitro, which I looked at that. That's what we're leading towards right now. But again, I consider that pretty heavily. You know, I didn't mind at all. Part of the reason why, for me, that it wouldn't bother me, though, is because the fact that I'm adopted, just as a little brief history. I'm adopted. So, you know, I wouldn't have a problem raising another man's child and loving another
Starting point is 00:26:21 man's child with my own. Right, but not separate. Like, you would be doing it out of like necessity, right, as opposed to. So that's like no different than someone who's having fertility issues and maybe goes to the does, but donor sperm or something, right? But I'm talking about these couples that are like emailing me saying that they, you know, they're doing this because this is like what makes them horny.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It's not, oh, I got a phosectomy so I need sperm. This is like I want my girl to get fucked by another guy and get pregnant because that turns me on. And then there's going to be some baby. And I mean, you know, it's one thing. You know, you're adopted and your parents wanted a child so they wouldn't adopt you. But it's a totally different story that you.
Starting point is 00:26:57 had a baby in that way because it made you fucking horny. You know what I mean? That's a very different thing to put onto a child. So I was like I never heard that extreme. I have had some people emailing me wanting to be on the show. So I might have that on soon. Yeah. Correct.
Starting point is 00:27:13 It's not just that alone either. Just keep in mind because I've gone through the scenario in my head already. Again, it's a matter of, you know what? Her going, hooking up with some guy. You know what we ideally, this would be the ideal scenario. You know what? She hooks up with some guy. It ends up being a long-term relationship.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You know, she does get pregnant by him. And now we introduce Uncle Jimmy here, you know, as just the uncle. And in all honesty, they keep a long-term relationship. Because part of the reason why is because in terms of biology, we also want to make sure I understand what's in my kid's blood and what is a medical history too, because I would love the kid and worry about the kid. So, you know what? Keep Uncle Jimmy around.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You know what? And the wife keeps screwing them because, again, you know, it's part of the fantasy and also it's part of the necessity side. Yeah, well, this is like cuckolding 5,000, okay, let's stick to cuckolding 101. That's just like so far off. Like I said, I haven't spoken to anyone on that,
Starting point is 00:28:08 but I had someone email me recently. So, you know, I'll pick that person's brain. Yeah, it's very deep. And I think, you know, a little bit, like not cool. I don't know. Just because of the child, you know, what you put on the child as far as like, you know, why they were made, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:24 the reasonings behind it. Adoption is wonderful. The reasonings behind adoption is wonderful. The reasoning behind, you know, fertility issues are people using things. Those are the wonderful. You know, the fact that... At the same time, you know what? You're concerned about the child and the rearing of the child. It could be a matter of, you know what?
Starting point is 00:28:43 Daddy couldn't make mommy pregnant, so you know what? We got a sperm donor. Who cares if it comes from a baster or a man's penis? Yeah, no, no, no. It's just the intention. It's just... All I'm saying is it's the intention. It's that the intention was because it's like a turn-on.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It's all done out of like a kink. You know what I mean? It's not done out of thoughtfulness to the child or a necessity like in your situation. You know, so that's what I'm saying. We don't need to talk about it because it's not a part of your story. You're talking about a totally different thing. That's something totally different. Let's go back to cuckling.
Starting point is 00:29:12 How is it different than swinging? And what makes a swinger, someone who, you know, swingers go out and they enjoy seeing their partners with other people and they're, you know, getting down with other people? What's the difference between swinging and cuckled? cuckled things. Of course. You know, swinging is really strictly a matter of husband and wife, both doing their own thing. And they actually, what I've seen with some swingers is that it's a matter of them just going out, more of it being a matter of an exhibitionist kind of thing, going to, you know, swing club,
Starting point is 00:29:43 swingers club, and, you know, and having sex in front of other people or even including other people. But no matter what, it includes the husband and wife. And the man, the husband, can also have sex with other women and most swinging couples. And, you know, they can both go in separate ways, you know, and step out on each other. And they both are okay with it. So they're completely, completely different from being a cuckold where, or even a hot wife. Because I know you've talked about hot wives before, too. And hot wife and cuckolding, they go hand in hand because no matter what, fact of the matter is with that.
Starting point is 00:30:24 If your wife have sex with another man, you are a cuckle, simple as that. You know, now it's a matter of defining where you are in that relationship. But is it a hot wife situation where she goes out and screws other men? Or, you know, are you into humiliation, being humiliated? I'm sorry, humiliated? Or, you know, are you going to wear a chastity? Are you going to be a wimp? There's so many different, you know, scenarios.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Again, cheating, like in my part. My wife presented herself as being a cheating wife. So, you know, and from my perspective, it was a matter of her being my hot wife. So, again, different aspects within the lifestyle of being a cuckold. Because, again, definition of a cuckold is your wife going out and having sex with another man. Right. And you have no desire. Like you said, you've been with two women at the same time.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It's just too much work. And it's not really, I'm assuming, something that you're interested in. I mean, when your girl is going out with all those guys, you're not going out with women on the side either. No, I'm not. No, not at all. Again, I'm too busy washing clothes and cleaning the house, though. Because, again, I have all this nervous energy from my wife going out and enjoying herself.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And having an understanding that I'm enjoying it through her. And, you know, she's going to come home and expect me to be all over her. And if not, if she's too tired, I'll be all over in the morning. But, you know what? And I'll take care of the kids and take care of the house while she recuperates. Right. you know yeah
Starting point is 00:31:54 so you know then we live the family normal family you know lifestyle right now do you have a lot like I mean is it
Starting point is 00:32:04 has this always been something very secret as far as you know in your friend's circle or like to people know about this side of you or what you used to do with your wife
Starting point is 00:32:14 well you know my brother knows but yeah my brother understands the nose on my wife side, my ex-wife side, I know she had told her friends because her friends, you know, we were married for a good number of years, you know, over a dozen years. And I was close to her friends also,
Starting point is 00:32:33 the girl's side. And, you know, of course, when we divorced, you know, we split up the friendship, friends. But one of the friends had mentioned the fact that my ex had talked to her about, you know, the lifestyle and what she had done. But at the time, this friend of ours didn't understand the difference between hot wife cuck holding and swingers because she had said that we're swingers when you know that really wasn't you know the true definition of what we were doing right so i guess maybe the difference would be that will make it more clear is that the you know it's just the wife going with someone unless there's a cuck queen right i have a girl who emailed me recently who's a cuck queen i've been dying to get a cut queen on my show because i always have the scenario where it's the guy is
Starting point is 00:33:16 the cuckold right and his wife is going out and she's the hot wife the girl i just posted this week She's the Sadie. She's the hot wife for sure, right? And her guy is really like you very into the fact that other guys see his girl as super hot. You know, the sexier she dresses, the better when she goes out. You know, he likes for other men to be checking out his girl. Whereas a lot of guys, like regular guys, right, that are into this, like that kind of
Starting point is 00:33:42 shit drives them nuts, right, in a bad way. Which I don't understand. I don't understand. Then hook up with an ugly chick so no guys check your girl out. Right. No, I think it stems from like a jealousy, like they don't want, you know, or, you know. Yeah, but the thing about jealousy, though, and I hit to interrupt you is the fact that jealousy can be, you know, directed in so many different ways, that energy, no, jealousy, you know, because it's an emotion. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And, you know, you can take that jealousy and then, again, still turn it around because, believe me, you know, there is still that little peeing of jealousy when your girl goes out. And that is, you know, what motivates you to be, you know, still, again, that good husband and want to do everything for her because, again, she has the opportunity to be with another man. So that means that I've got to step up my game and be that much better. Yeah. And listen, your situation is interesting because, well, no, I had another guy on who's called in a bunch of times. And his wife, he loves the fact, you know, they're definitely in a cuggled situation. She's had a long-term guy that she's been with. I mean, the same guy, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:47 And so I wonder for you, has there ever been an insecurity or like a fear that she would wind up copping feelings for him? Or did you always feel like those sort of boundaries were always very clear and there were never to be crossed? Well, you know, actually my ex-wife was kind of, she, my ex-wife could keep her emotions in check pretty easily and pretty well. Right. But the thing about it is that in terms of their relationship, I would hope that there would be some feelings because no matter what, it makes sex that much better for people
Starting point is 00:35:20 when you have feelings for somebody else. You're the one that you're with. Yeah, no, I think, listen, I think why people get jealous and possessive in relationships is because, and why, like, say, I would worry like, oh, yeah, sex doesn't mean anything, but you're always worried about someone copying feelings
Starting point is 00:35:38 because what comes with that is that fear of abandonment, that, oh, they cop feelings, and then they leave you for that other person. So you must be very secure with zero abandonment issues that you, you know, you're fine with her having feelings, having sex. And, you know, you just don't have that fear that that's going to lead to her leaving you for that person. Because I think that would be most people's fear. That would be my fear. You know what?
Starting point is 00:36:03 It's one of those things where, in all honesty, if somebody is going to leave you, them, you know, doing something that you guys agreed to do together, you know, it would have. happen with or without that situation. You know, there's something in there that they're missing in terms of the relationship. Yeah, that's very rational to say. I'm just saying, like,
Starting point is 00:36:24 I mean, I think I have abandonment issues. And maybe I just can't even understand that mentality as someone that has abandonment issues, right? And maybe someone normal that doesn't have abandonment issues could think that rationally in a situation like that. But I think a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:36:38 remember I'm adopted. It doesn't matter that you're adopted. You know, so that would make that I think that you would have more of abandonment issues. you don't have exactly but you don't that's what I'm trying to say I mean I think that the average person even I think that doesn't have abandonment issues that like when you fall in love you're at your most vulnerable and I think everyone's biggest fear you know and it's this and it's I think what comes across when the guy is his girl is out and the guys are looking at her and he fucking
Starting point is 00:37:06 hates that it's like it's just a deep-seated fear of abandonment because nobody wants to lose the person that they really love like so I don't understand like I get what you you're saying, right? It's very logical, right? But I think people tend to not be able to separate that. I think that that's great that you can, that you're like, oh, she could go have her. I would love for, of course she had real feelings for him and it was emotional because that would make it better. But you just always never even consider that anything would happen there. You know, that's where my insecurity comes. I'm just projecting on to you. No, you're absolutely right. Because, you know, each and every time that somebody that I bring this up with, you know, an X, they say, okay, I'm going to leave you for you. them. Yeah, I'm going to leave you for them for this person. Even though there's nobody in the picture yet, they say, again,
Starting point is 00:37:51 after through the anger, one of their arguments is, I'm going to fall in love with this person and leave you. What do you mean? I don't understand what you're talking about. When you first bring up the idea of her having sex with other men, and the heated discussion comes up more than
Starting point is 00:38:07 an argument on her point. Yeah. One of the points that is always brought up is, well, I will leave you for that other person. Right, I'll go, not only I'm going to fuck that person I'm going to leave you for him too then. Exactly. Right. Because, right, they throw that in your face because they think that's your biggest fear
Starting point is 00:38:22 because that would just make sense that it would be anyone's fear. Right. So it's not just me. I'm not right. But you talk, the way you talk about it, you really have like a very, I mean, you really have a very clear disconnect for that and don't have that going on at all, which I think is why you've been such a professional cuckled, you know, and very good at it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, most definitely. And you know what? I've had the success that I've had because I listen to the women that I'm with. Yeah. And I watch and I learn from them as to who they are before really, you know, pouncing on the idea and pushing the idea. Again, I've been married now for two years going on three. Yeah. I'm my second marriage here. And, you know, in this time, I've gotten my girl to dress up for me when I don't, and I don't have to ask her. I get, I have a girl who's horny all the time. And, and I got, I get her to turn on porn by herself and we play with toys. So you know what? Progressions moved along pretty well. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:20 You're not desperate trying to push her into something because, right? I mean, you're just not. Correct. Right. And that's smart way to be for sure. Correct. Exactly. Because all you do is you turn off your mate and it turns into a real problem
Starting point is 00:39:34 versus it being something that you learn and explore together. Yeah. Yeah, you are a professional cuckold. You really could teach classes in this. think a lot of people aren't at your level of like, you know, sort of evolution. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And actually, it is an evolution. It's an evolution of, you know, the marriage and what you want out of it because me, again, I've done it for most of my sexual life and I enjoy teaching other people. And I'll be honest here. I put together a Gmail account
Starting point is 00:40:07 here just for this. You know, teach you to be a cuck, but except it's teach, spelled out, U as a letter U, two is the number two, letter B, A, C-U-C-K, at g-mail.com. Okay, I'll put, I'm going to put that in the description below because this is what you enjoy doing. Have you taught other people before you said you're on like a bunch of websites and stuff, right? I mean, do you, have you always been helping people out? I've tried to, you know, it's one of these things where, you know, this lifestyle is just a small facet of a person's, life overall. Of course. You know, people keep in touch, you know, if they fall off and, you know, things happen and everything else. So it's, it's kind of difficult to keep in touch with these people at
Starting point is 00:40:53 times. You talk to them on the phone. Do you, you give them, right, I mean, via email, like they would email you with their situation or questions? Yeah, mostly email, mostly email, chat, you know, and just being able to find out where they're at in terms of the relationship. One of the first questions I always ask is how long of the guys have been together. You know what then? Of course, what's, her experiences. Again, one of the easiest routes to take is talking about her past experiences. Right. Showing her how much it turns you on because, you know, I love the fact that, you know, my wife is so beautiful and she turns on guys and she's been banging around.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. That's fun. Yeah, I remember I had a guy that I was sleeping with and I had slept with his friend many, many years before I was with him and he like asked me whether that guy was bigger than him. and I was like, oh no, like, you know, but then I was thinking to myself, like, maybe he wanted me to say he was. Like, who knows what someone's, why someone's asking that question, you know, but a girl or even a guy, I think, if that, some sort of question about your past is going to be asked, right? Especially your sexual history with somebody else. You're always going
Starting point is 00:42:01 to want to, like, downplay it because you don't want to make that person feel insecure, right? So it would probably, you'd really have to coax somebody to really, and really make them realize that you're not looking for them to talk. like, you know, down about their past sexual experiences. Like, you want to really know the real deal. Like, you're not going to be intimidated or upset or anything. Because I think most people would think, like I said, when that person asked me, you know, I was like, oh, of course not.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You know, but maybe he was asking because he was like into Cox and, you know, he wanted to know that there was a bigger one there. Who knows, right? But I think, you know, your natural sort of answer when a guy's asking you about other experiences, like you'd be a little nervous. to really talk them up, right? Until I guess you really understood that your partner was really getting turned on. And then you felt super free.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Correct. That's how it goes normally. But you're right. But at the same time, you know, what I normally tell people and push on people. And again, this goes back to the question as to how long you guys been together, you know, married, is a matter of trust. Yeah. You know, because you're entrusting somebody else with your feelings and your thoughts. You know, you're telling them, this turns me on.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And please don't judge me because of it. Yeah. And you know what? So if you trust me with every other aspect of your life, why wouldn't you trust me and just open up and talk to me about this? Yeah, for sure. I just think that nobody, I think it would be hard for somebody to believe if it wasn't something that, you know, they went into the relationship knowing that they were both
Starting point is 00:43:35 too, you know, open-minded people, right? You meet someone on FetLife or adult friend finder. You're both on the same page. It's not hard to, you know, talk about that. shit, but you know, you met your person and, you know, you're three years into it and then your guy starts to ask you these questions. You know, I'm talking about like the regular person out there that maybe hasn't talked about it and this is something that they're really into. I think initially it might be hard, you know, you have to really, you know, make the person
Starting point is 00:44:01 understand that this is something that you're really into and that it's not a loaded question or a trick question. You know what I mean? Correct. Yeah, because the only trick to it that women would throw out there is, okay, you're asking me about this. and you're telling me you want me to sleep with other men, is that because you want to sleep with other girls? Right. That's what they always say. Yes. That's what they always say.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yes. I've heard that for many guys on here. Yes. Well, you know, what I always tell, you know, people is, you know, there, it is a matter of, again, how long you guys been together. Okay. You know, sex is becoming vanilla after three, four, or five, you know, 10 years. Yeah. So let's spice things up because then I don't want to be looking at.
Starting point is 00:44:43 looking, if we don't, then, you know, don't blame me if I go somewhere else. What I have found from a lot of my cuckolding guys and what I also find to be very interesting is that, I mean, I would say 99.9% of them, they don't want to be with other women. They're not interested in that. What they're interested in is the girl being with another guy and that's enough for them. That is enough to keep them jerking off to the raw like you said. You know what I mean? you're like at home, like giving yourself rug burns because you're just, you know, so horny for what the situation is that you're not even thinking about other women or any variety because that's all the variety you're getting. That's what you're into, you know. So I would tell women, I get that they think that, but I would say what I have found through all these guys that I've talked to is that 100% they're not looking for that. Or then it's a different situation. I'm talking to a guy that's a swinger. And, you know, it's like we're talking about a totally different thing.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yes, completely, completely different lifestyle. Right. And, you know, yeah. And, you know, one way that I started with my ex-wife was taking it to swing clubs. And it was a good experience to be able to open her up to the idea that there are other people out there. Yeah. You have other kinks in life with regards to sex. So, you know, it's not something that we did or pursued a hell of a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:46:02 We went to some pretty cool clubs, though. But including the one on Vegas, the Red Rooster, I think, was called, that that was kind of neat. Oh, really? Yeah. But, you know what again? You know, that's one way of opening her up to just being open with regards to sex and doing different things. Did you do that before she was like hooking up with that guy? Was that stuff that you did before that or after door?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Exactly. Before. That's exactly before. Because again, opening, this is probably probably at about our five year mark of being married. Yeah, that was about a five-year mark of being married Where we I said, you know, let's go try out swing clubs It was great, it was fun You know, we had gone to swing clubs in San Francisco, Vegas, and a couple of others
Starting point is 00:46:51 And people's homes And again, it was a matter of understanding that these people Were regular people too Yeah, right You get to meet people and you understand that they're husbands and wives, mothers and fathers and they live lives outside of this. So this is just, again, another small piece of their life that it does take a big, heavy role in their relationship.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Now, when you guys went to swing clubs, did you guys partake? We did on a couple occasions where we had sex ourselves, but between ourselves, or we didn't include anybody else. So it was a matter of being watched a little bit, I guess. Right. And that loosened her up? Yes, it did.
Starting point is 00:47:37 It worked very well, obviously. And now that first time that she decided to go out, like, did she have any kind of reservations when she came home, like nervous to tell you, really sort of distrustful of the situation, or had you prepped her so much that by the time she did it, she knew that it was all good, there was no problems going to happen, it wasn't a trick question. You weren't going to get mad, and she was good to go. Tell her I had a girlfriend, no. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:06 No, it went well. You know, of course there's some anticipation on my part and on her part as to how it's going to unfold afterwards because it's not just a matter of me. It's also a matter of her experience. Yeah. You know, did she enjoy it? Yeah. You know, so, you know, and it went well, and as long as it went well, and luckily enough because it haven't been somebody she was comfortable with, then, you know, that side was okay. And like you said, then comes my side as to her coming home and me, her being concerned about my feelings and which my feelings were just, you know, get me to coat back because my dick is raw.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Right. You know, but, you know, so it all went well. And, you know, that's what opened it up to, you know, her, you know, really embracing it and enjoying it and doing it, you know, on a regular basis. And that only added to your guy's sex life. would assume, right? Absolutely. Even the week before we got divorced, this always makes me laugh.
Starting point is 00:49:09 As to the fact that we would have sex like five times a week, even up to a week prior to our divorce kind of thing. Wow. We had a very healthy lifestyle. Right. And she was seeing that one guy? Did she ever see any other guys? Or was it always that same one?
Starting point is 00:49:24 She did move on to somebody else after a bit. Because she knew her ex-boyfriend well enough. And as to the fact that, you know, he was not the best of people either kind of thing. Right. She moved on to somebody else after a bit. She was a long-term relationship kind of gal. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Which I appreciate it too because, yeah, then, you know, then it opens up to more trust between them two together versus screwing around and, you know, hooking up with different people all the time. Yeah, and there's more consistency because, you know, you know, it's not like you're always looking for somebody new, right? She always knew that guy was around. He was always there to, you know. fuck your wife. He thought he was like
Starting point is 00:50:04 getting pulling one over on you you know. Yep. Absolutely. He enjoyed it and I enjoyed it and she did too. Right. And do you know, I mean, she's your ex-wife but you guys have kids together, right? Do you know if she's in that kind of similar relationship now? Maybe you wouldn't now, right?
Starting point is 00:50:22 I don't know. Do you know what she does now? We've been divorced now for almost 10 years. And she really has, she actually, actually, actually, I don't get her, but she ends up with long-term relationships with people. And when I mean long-term, we're in the United States, a lot of people in Europe. You know, and she has long-term relationships with people like that.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And I don't understand why, but she chooses to live that way. And, you know, with regards to her continuing the lifestyle, I doubt it just due to the fact that, well, there's a possibility. Who knows? Yeah. This guy might get off on her going out on dating dates while, you know, he's out back, you know, back home all the way out there in Europe. So, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:03 But I know she still goes out and we still have mutual friends at all, but I don't think that she, you know, women tend to be able to hibernate when it comes of sex, which has always baffled me. What do you mean hibernate? Oh, you girls, you chicks, you can like turn it off for like years where you don't have sex. You're horny and all, but you guys don't need it like guys do. Right. I guess. Well, it depends, too. I mean, like, listen.
Starting point is 00:51:30 It's funny because it's funny saying they're hearing that from you because, you know what, out of all the people in the world, you know what? You may be very clear as your past. And you know what? You've never held back. But I think a lot of women do. No, I did. No, not true.
Starting point is 00:51:45 What I was going to say is that I think it really depends on what's going on with the women. There's different scenarios. I would say I held back the most and had the least amount of needs when it came to sex when I became a mom. And I think that that happens to a lot of women, right? And, you know, maturity. Yeah, it's just, I think it's a nesting thing.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I remember talking to somebody on my podcast once because I really thought like that part of myself was never coming back, you know, and she's like, no, don't worry. Like, it's just a nesting phase. It's a thing, you know, when your mom, the first couple of years, you know, and that was a time where my needs changed and that part of me, what did you say? You went on a hold or whatever, you know, but I think that there's different. You know, hibernated. Because I was a mom and I think that that causes problems in people's relationships. And that does happen to women. And it could happen.
Starting point is 00:52:37 But I wasn't in a relationship. I was a single mom. So it was easier for me to have that. Whereas before when I was younger, I always felt when, you know, I always had, I was like your girl in that I was very,
Starting point is 00:52:49 I like to be with the same person. I don't like to sleep. I don't like a variety, you know, when it comes to men, right? So I like to sleep with the same person. So even if I'm not in a relationship,
Starting point is 00:52:58 my booty call person is going to be one person. I'm not interested in, you know, having different ones. So I would always have somebody that I was banging just because I think, you know, I would need sex, right? And it's just a, it's just like a physical need and a desire. I think most women have that. You know, you ovulate. It's in nature. You know, I think what changes, though, the other time it really changes for a woman is when she gets, you know, into her 50s.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And your 40s, you just get hornier than ever. But I think, you know, menopause brings on a whole other. kind of nesting experience and that's like a different you don't need to talk on that what you're talking on and teaching people about is how to get their girl to go fuck more people so that they could get turned on by it right so absolutely absolutely yeah but let me ask you this in like the last five minutes of the show like what would you want to tell people the most important things about cuckling or your best tips or something that you'd want to tell people and then give that email as well so that people wanting to talk to you and ask questions that you could help them so do that too
Starting point is 00:53:54 at the end of your five-minute speech. All right. Well, again, what it comes down to is just good communication, bottom line. The communication side will not just help your sexual side of your relationship, but help your relationship overall. And in all honesty, it's amazing how opening up your sex life in that sense, where in whatever sense that really turns you on, as long as something that you both agree on and are happy with,
Starting point is 00:54:24 would actually strengthen the relationship. It's amazing. You know, because, yeah, to be able to trust the one that you're with to go out on you to be with another man and then with the expectation and understanding that she's supposed to return, you know, there's a huge amount of trust there. And, you know, to be able to tell somebody what is on your mind, your fantasies and, you know, what turns you on, takes a lot of trust. too. You know, and so what you've got to do, the first thing you've got to do is look at your
Starting point is 00:54:58 relationship overall and not the sex side, as much as your relationship in terms of how long you've been together, how strong it is, and how open you guys are in terms of communication before you even, you know, step foot in this direction. That's, that's what's needed first. Yeah, and you know what? I just had that, the thought in my head when you were saying all that because I was talking a lot about like my own abandonment issues and bringing it up how, you know, I think what people's biggest fear is. And I think probably what's really liberating about doing something like this for you is like, because they say like what you resist persist, right?
Starting point is 00:55:34 So if our biggest fear, everyone's biggest fear, someone's going to abandon us if there's fuck somebody else. You know what I mean? Like that's like the thing that we're all super afraid of. You know, how liberating is it when you, you know, that you face that.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It happens. And not only you're UK with it, it turns you on and it strengthens your relationship. You know what I'm saying? like on the other side of that biggest fear could be what you have experienced, which is total trust, right? Obviously. I mean, you totally trusted your wife.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And like you said, none of that had anything to do with you guys breaking up. Your sex life was fantastic because of it up to like a week before you got divorced. So it is very liberating, right? Because you went there. You went to everyone's biggest fear. Not only, yeah, fuck another guy. Have feelings. that'll make the sex even better and then come home and fuck me and I'm going to enjoy it even more.
Starting point is 00:56:27 You know, like. Exactly. Absolutely. So there you go. I mean, that's like, that's like a freedom and a crossing of a line that I think, you know, facing of a fear that I think most people will never experience. But I guess people who have and you're one of them on the other side, like you're here to say that it is amazing. Yeah. It is amazing and it's definitely doable because again, I, people always, men always say, oh, she's going to be upset with me.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Well, yeah, you're right. She is because this is something new. The issue of her being upset maybe is because why didn't you bring this up at the beginning of the relationship, which actually I did with my second wife here. Oh, I'm glad you brought that up. I was going to ask you. Yeah, I was wondering about that. You told her early on. Yes, very smart.
Starting point is 00:57:17 I told her before getting married. You know, I said, you know what? I've been married. You know, this is what actually I did with my ex-wife. She'd go around, screw around with people. And, you know, and the reality is that I don't want to have a vanilla sex life. You know, I don't want, I want excitement. I want something that here I am 51 years old.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I need some excitement to get me going, you know, to get my heart on going. It takes a little longer at 51. Yeah. You know? Yeah. So, you know, be patient with me there. But at the same time, be prepared because I'm looking for more than just, you know, you laying down in bed and spreading your life from me.
Starting point is 00:57:50 So, you know, and as she's been, that seed that I planted way back when is, has worked. Right. This is because I knew what I wanted early on in my second marriage. You know, if you're, if somebody's in a marriage currently, doesn't mean that it can't happen. It just means that you've got to deal with it a little bit different. And understand and make your spouse understand just as well as you do because I don't doubt that she will, would, you know, be married 10 years. Yeah, you know, the sex has fallen down.
Starting point is 00:58:20 It's not as hot as it used to be. You know, it's very vanilla. It's very mechanical now where, you know, it's not as exciting as it used to be. Come on, let's bring some excitement into the relationship, right? Right. You play that card down the line when it gets that way. But you have seen progress with your girl because what I think is important is that you weren't pushing her to do something before she was ready.
Starting point is 00:58:43 She has gotten into different things. You're having fun, you know, along the way. You know, like you said, you use toys. and then there's porn. You're introducing things because you're being very open and you're communicating about sex, right? Which is something that a lot of people don't do. They don't have those conversations.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And it's not about like what's our problem. It's like hot conversations, right? Like, you know, stuff that turns you on and be really open and like to trying different things with each other. And you lead her slowly. Correct. And actually on that note, actually she works, in a mall setting.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yeah. And, you know, she sometimes sits outside and she gets hit on every once in a while. And, you know, I told her for what happened there because it makes you laugh. And it also plants a seed because he keeps cultivating that seed. Right. And you're a pretty girl. Come on, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And other guys are going to hit on you. Right. Understand this. And, you know, let's go with it later on the future. Right. Because that's what you like. Right. But you're taking it slow.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah. Yeah. Not just that. You know what? Later on, when Viagra doesn't work for me anymore, which I, don't take yet, but, you know, that's where, you know, that's where nature tends to take men where you don't get hard as hard as anymore. She's a lot younger than me. Right. And who knows what will be able to get me going, you know, so that may be an option. Right. And also,
Starting point is 01:00:04 you could farm her out to somebody else who could please her, but you keep her to, right? I mean, you could have another guy. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, and in addition to that, you know, I stay home, take care of the baby, because I've done it before. Yeah. I stay home, take care of the baby and you know and she goes out and have fun and yeah i'll be waiting for her we will be waiting for her interesting okay listen what did we call you jo joe it's sometimes it's hard for me i don't know i'm not so great at like oh you know it wasn't like my typical thing where i'm like probing you for your whole backstory right i wanted to get some more information just on cuckling i hope that people did get a lot from this episode and it was informational um what i think is great is that you know
Starting point is 01:00:45 when they want more information because maybe at an ask enough questions or the right kind of questions, people could email you. Give out your email again. And I'll also put it in the description below. So if you're on YouTube or you're listening on a podcast app, just go into the description. His email will be there. Give the email though out one more time. Teach T-E-A-C-H-U as in the letter U to the number two, B as in a letter B, A, C-U-C-K at Gmail.com. Okay. So teach you to be. A-Coc. Acac.
Starting point is 01:01:21 At email. I'll put that in the description. Thanks so much. If anyone needs any help, okay? You need to email Joe. That's his fake name. Email Joe. And he'll email you back.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And why do you do that just because you like to? Yeah, absolutely. You know what? It's exciting. You know what? And it's a matter of progress. You know, I'm a business owner. You know, again, it's being a matter of us being regular people.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I'm a business. owner. Yeah. You know, and I deal with people on all kinds of levels. Yeah. And, you know, with regards to this, this is completely different. And it's a matter of helping somebody out personally, because in terms of my business, I help people out financially. Right. Now, here, I help people out personally. So this I would take just as much pleasure in doing, because, you know what, you get a high five people in terms of, yeah, I told her, and, you know, and I already explained what to expect. And, yes, that's exactly what happened. Okay. Now just let it simmer and let it go.
Starting point is 01:02:21 And this is what's most likely going to happen next. And you know what again? It's a matter of understanding what to expect. And people are just too timid at times. And they just need some support to be able to push themselves to be able to work outside their boundaries. Their comfort zone. Yeah, for sure. Listen, that's what I do on my show.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah, that's what I. Listen, I do my show for that reason because I just like to help people. And so you're that same type of person. So if you need help, email Joe, his emails below. Thank you so much for calling in. was really fascinating. This was very cool. Appreciate it.
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