Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 419 - Raven Loves Being an Escort and Loves Group Sex
Episode Date: November 1, 2021Raven loves being an escort and she calls in to talk all about it. When did she start being an escort? How and why did she start? And, what does she like most about it? Tune in for all the details wh...ich include how escorting is legal where she is, why she’s not into Onlyfans, how she tried being a sugarbaby and why she wasn’t into that either, how she used social media to navigate her way into escorting, how and why being super curvy has helped her get “clients,” what she does and does not offer, what she enjoys doing, as well as how much she charges, how she vets her clients and remains safe, how she remains detached, how she loves group sex and threesomes in her “regular” life and how goes about setting up group sex parties, how and why she can’t see herself in a monogamous relationship, what she wants to do once she stops escorting and a whole lot more. https://www.ravenonyx.com **To see anonymous pics of Raven and a ton of my other guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I am going to get right to my guest. Today I have on a girl named Raven. Raven is super interesting.
She is an escort, a high-end escort who lives in Canada. Now, I didn't know that it is legal in
Canada to be an escort. She explains the legality of it because it's actually interesting. It's
only, it's very one-sided. You're going to have to hear about that. But she talks about, you know,
how and why she got into escorting. She talks about how she tried being a sugar baby beforehand and
why she prefers being an escort. She talks about what she does while being an escort, how much
she charges. That's always my favorite question. She likes to remain open and be with multiple.
men. She likes group sex. She sets it up in her regular life. But she keeps her two lives separate.
She did send me picks of herself. So if you want to see anonymous picks of Raven, go to my Patreon.
Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. She gives out her email as well as her Twitter. She gives
the shout out at the end of the episode. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Raven.
Hey, Raven. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today?
I'm doing very well.
How are you?
I'm good.
So Raven, what I got from you is that you are an escort,
and you're an escort because you love being an escort, right?
I think you said you love entertaining people.
I don't know.
But is that sort of the bigger picture?
Yeah, that's the picture.
I absolutely love it.
It's something that I was very curious about.
Like, I've always tried to watch movies.
either read about it and I decided to jump in for myself.
So give me a little backstory on you.
How old are you now and when, how old were you when you started escorting?
So I am 25 now and I started escorting two years ago.
I dipped my toes in that little pond two years ago.
I did it a couple months and I stopped and about six months ago, well now we now we're
Yeah, so let me mean 10 months ago now because the time flies by.
I really kind of like full, did a full dive in this world and I'm doing it not full time
because I do have a job on the side too, but I'm doing it at a lot more serious capacity now.
Right.
Now, do you live somewhere where escorting is legal?
It's semi-legal.
So it is legal for me to sell my services.
It is.
Yeah.
Okay.
But the buyers are the ones that are on the, I guess, wrong side of the law.
Oh, really?
So you're allowed to say, oh, you could fuck me for money, but if you do, they get in trouble?
I don't understand.
How does that work?
Yeah, like it's, well, I mean, I'm in Canada.
So it's, they made it legal to sell sexual services, but they haven't decriminalized buying it.
Wow.
So they kind of like changed it in a way so that the workers are not going to be prosecuted.
Right.
And so this is kind of like, it's semi-legal.
That's why it's kind of like a weird situation.
So it's okay for me to do what I'm doing.
But on the other side, it's not fully legal for clients to be client.
Wow.
That's interesting.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And it changed a few years ago because before I was like fully.
not legal for anyone to sell or buy,
but now it's different.
But I think it's going to change the climate to around the stigma.
A lot of girls now show their faces.
I don't do it myself, but a lot of girls are more open about it
because they don't fear being prosecuted.
Of course, yeah, that's a big win for you guys, right?
For sex workers.
Yeah.
But not a big win for the guys that want to hire you or the women.
It's interesting.
They must be in the process because I don't understand it.
It's kind of like saying like you could sell drugs but no one's allowed to buy them.
Like it doesn't make it doesn't really make sense, but it does help you guys.
So that's a win for you.
So it's not like I'm talking to someone that's doing something illegal.
Now let me ask you this.
Do you do OnlyFans and all that kind of stuff now too as well or do you just strictly do escorting like in person?
Well, for me, what I like the most is in person work.
this is like the connection with somebody is what I'm really into.
I do have an only friend.
I haven't posted much on it.
It's not really, like I'm trying it because it's popular.
So I wanted to try it too.
But I feel it's less personal.
Right.
So if I'm going to do it with Mung Shurka,
I will need to find a way to make it feel more personal to me
because this is really what I enjoy myself.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, I would think it's like Apple.
apples and oranges. If you really enjoy the interaction and the meeting the men in person,
you know, OnlyFans is a totally different thing. And I would say probably there's a lot of
women on OnlyFans that they only enjoy the fact that it's not personal, right? That maybe
they wouldn't be comfortable the other way around. So it is apples and oranges. So,
so right now, Tommy, you said that you were really into always like sort of, not sort of,
but seeing it like on TV or on movies and it was always something that you were curious about.
when did you take that plunge?
When did I take that plunge?
Well, I kind of, because at first, when I was, I think 18 or something, I felt like I wanted to do something along those lines, but I really did not want anyone in my family or friends to find out.
Yeah.
So I thought that, like, being a sugar baby would be, like, an acceptable, like, alternative.
Mm-hmm.
And so, like, this was, like, my very, very first experience.
as a sugar baby because back then it was not like mainstream yet but it was kind of getting
to the point where people knew about it like they were trying to recruit um university like a woman
by signing up with their um like student ID like student uh email I don't know if you remember that
time like they were saying like oh if you have like a dot EU email when you sign up you get like
I think it did they got us more exposure or something oh my god that was like my first really
step into it when I was like 18 and I tried it and it was a bit different than what I expected
because from the movies and all of the readings that I did it felt like the escorts had a lot more
freedom of what you really wanted to do but as a sugar baby you kind of like from my experience
like you're more kind of the subject of what the men wants you to do but that was more like
that it was less it was very different from what I really wanted to do.
Yeah. Now, did you have any kind of sugar baby experiences that were that lasted any length of time?
Or what was it? Were you on sugarbaby.com? I mean, where, what was this website that was, that's so funny that they were doing this thing where they're like, oh, if you have a dot ed.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a seeking arrangement. That's the one. Oh, okay. Yeah. And there was also like established men. I remember that one too.
Yeah.
those two were the ones
oh and mist travel
those are the three ones that I was on
like seeking arrangements
establishment and mistravel
and it really
kind of presented it as
a new way of
meeting to
to get men that are really interested in you
like over the men obviously with me
to shower like to pamper you
and shower you with gifts all the time
and all you had to do was to sit there and be pretty
but in my experiences
it was more
the men that I met were really demanding.
And I felt like I was being cheated in terms of, like, the rewards that I would get for doing what they want to me to do.
Right.
So, like, my relationships with those guys did not last more than a few months.
In what way were they demanding?
Like, as far as what they wanted you to do sexually or, like, your time or they wanted you all to themselves?
Yeah.
So it was a lot more like a real relationship where you had to be available 24-7 for them.
Like they were very demanding of my time.
And it was a lot of emotional labor, a lot of reassuring, a lot of propping up their ego all the time.
Girlfriend experience.
Yeah.
Like a real, like it was like a wife, you know?
Yeah.
It was a lot.
It really was a lot.
And even for the sex relax, it was also things.
that I was maybe not very comfortable with
they kind of come back, came back
and said, well, I'm doing
all the things for you. Like, how dare you not
say yes? Oh,
interesting. Right. They felt like once they had
ownership over you and that, you know, if they give you
this amount of money a month, you're going to
do whatever they want. And that's what they expected.
That's what they were paying
for, I would assume.
Right. So you weren't okay
with that? I really
wasn't because all of the things that I had
research and all the articles of like
actual escort that I read on either like vice or any different magazines they kind of all talked
about how freeing for their sexuality it was because they got to choose what was done where what how long
and like it was kind of like more on their terms and I felt like what I was doing was really kind of
all on the guys terms and this was not that was not okay with that yeah that's interesting I mean
I would never put that together right because I'm not in that
business, but it makes sense.
As an escort, you're kind of setting up your own business.
You could say, this is what I do, this is what I don't do, this is what I charge,
this is what I'm open for, right?
Yeah, it really is.
And I find it's more honest as well.
Right.
Because, like, you're really able to, because there's no pretense that we are in the
relationship that's going to be, like, long lasting for months on end.
The sugar baby one.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
it really is for this amount of time we're going to spend time together and this is what I'm
comfortable doing and if that's not okay with you then there's somebody else out there that can
you know do whatever fantasy that you want to have but this will not be mean and that's okay
as well yeah I love that so now how did you know how to become an escort what were your first
steps I mean I would think it's hard to figure out no I mean because there's different ways to go
about it right yeah there's different ways to go
about it and what really
helps me was social media
and really
kind of finding the girls
that were already doing
like already in the industry
and what they were doing.
And on social media there's also
like on
Instagram and other platforms
you have kind of groups
of people that are
anonymous that they kind of talk about topics
so like there is
how can I say that?
properly.
Like people would create accounts where they're anonymous and they kind of say in their
bio what this account is for.
So like it's kind of like a spin-stop, but it was spin-stop for sex workers,
since stuff for camgirls, spin-stop for escort, sin-st up for sugar babies and all of those
different.
There's so many different categories, right, in sex works.
Yeah.
And I was lucky enough to find the first one, I think it was on Tumblr back then.
and from there, like, I was just kind of going into different people's profiles and signing out their other social media and, like, kind of immersing myself into this world.
Right. And seeing what they did, did you start to DM them? And, I mean, how did you make your first connections into the world yourself?
Well, the thing is, it's like, they post, like, it's, um, the accounts are usually private so that when you want to, um, follow them, you have to DM them and explain to them like, oh, like, I'm also,
in this field that I'm interested in this field.
And they,
as soon as the first couple people kind of accept you,
since this other one see your connections to them,
it's kind of like you're welcome to be here because like you're verified in a way.
Yeah, for sure.
And yeah,
and then they just post on their feet and then there's conversations in the comments.
It's not really like a one-on-one conversation.
It really is like a whole community of girls.
Right.
Interesting.
So now did you go out and get a pimp?
Like how does it work?
or in the world that you got into?
So for me, I was more into the higher end type of escorting.
So I personally wanted to be independent.
My experience with the sugar daddy really was not what I wanted to recreate with somebody else,
like having a stand for someone.
Right.
So like I really, oh, and Twitter as well.
Like right now Twitter is a very good place to find escort.
Oh, really?
Like more higher end.
Yes, they're very active.
Yeah, someone told me once like, oh, Twitter is a place where you could really get away with a lot when it comes to SCX, right?
Because, like, for me, if I sometimes try to promote, like, anything I post on Instagram, anything to do with sex, it's like no way.
You know, you can't promote it or boost it or whatever, but somebody was telling me, you know, that Twitter actually is a very safe place where anything kind of goes.
Yes, Twitter is the place.
where, like, a lot of escorts have a Twitter,
but they don't have an Instagram.
Or like, on the Instagram, they post fully closed photos.
Yeah.
And on the Twitter, like, you can see a little bit more.
Oh, yeah, because I get people, I mean,
I don't have a lot of followers on Twitter,
maybe, like, a little bit over a thousand.
But, and I just, like, sort of feed whatever I put on Insta on Twitter.
But, like, a lot of times people friend me, you know,
and sometimes they'll talk to me and I'm talking to someone.
Then I click on their profile.
And it's, like, full on fucking somebody.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
Oops.
I don't know.
It's a lot, you know.
But I'm like, how is this all going on?
But obviously, like I said, someone, like, told me, like, no, like, you could get away
with that kind of stuff and you don't get shut down.
So it is a safe place for you to go on there and post your profile.
Yes, it really is.
It really is.
So Twitter is like a, like right now Twitter is a good place to be an escort and to find
escorts as well.
And on there, so like, since I kind of need.
knew what kind of branding I wanted to go with.
I found girls that were similar in a way,
just browsing through someone out.
You know, like there's some girls that are very famous,
like Amy Taylor.
I don't know if you know about her.
No, but she's a famous one on there, Annie Taylor?
Yeah.
She's a famous one.
Like she has interviews everywhere.
She's been on the covers of a lot of, like,
I think Maxim and Playboy and all of those kind of magazines too.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
So she really is like a figure.
So like following her and seeing who she follows.
I'm kind of like trickling down to finding people that kind of look more like me
and have the branding that is similar to mine.
Uh-huh.
To then really see like, okay, so what are they doing that is working for them?
And what can I do in my capacity that would be working for me too?
Right.
Now, you'll send me anonymous picks for my Patreon, right?
Like a lot of times my guests send me anonymous picks.
We'll post them there so people could see what,
you are like when you see you you could send me those yeah sure I would yeah now when you say
like you want to see girls that look like you that so you can know how to brand yourself like
what how would you describe yourself well I'm not a typical tall blonde Slavic girl yeah looking girl
I'm a black curvy woman that's not that tall right and that's 5-7 so it's yeah
so it's it's not like the typical look
But it kind of works in my favor in a way because there are so many different tastes and likes and desires that people have out there.
And there's not a lot of providers like me.
Yeah.
So that kind of works in my favor.
But like when you go into the Twitter world and the Instagram world, like most of what you see is not exactly looking like what I look like.
Right.
But I'm sure you see that tons of people are looking for exactly what you have to offer, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, come on.
I remember I've always been friends with a lot of guys.
And because I'm always like super open,
guys would always,
my guy friends would always be very open with me.
So I always had an understanding that guys like everything.
Do you know what I mean?
And they tend to even like girls that are a little bit more beefy, right?
I mean, it's just a fact.
I was always like super skinny.
And that was always like horrifying to me because I knew that I could never be
that voluptuous woman that I knew that guys loved, right?
And they do really like.
it. But I think women are the ones that don't know that. They think that they have to be, like you said,
that, you know, skinny, blonde, you know, Barbie-looking girl. And that's what the ultimate, that's
the ultimate ideal. But I know that that's by far not correct. I mean, it's not to say that guys
don't like that, but they like all different things. So you're like a curvier girl, right?
More voluptuous. And that works to your favor because all the
guys that are into that, that's what you offer.
And you're saying that there's not a lot of girls out there offering that?
No, not that many.
But the thing is, like, something that I found very interesting is that at first,
I really thought that I would get clients that are either very, like, old or not standard,
like, not having the standard, like, hot guy look.
Yeah.
or like men that have some sort of,
because they're also like fetish about like black women.
So I thought this was where I was going to attract.
Yeah.
But when I look at my clientele, it's completely varied.
And I have a lot of like hot, young guys in their like early 20s.
I have like older gentlemen.
I have, it's really and all different races and sizes and like origins.
It really surprised me.
Like I even had that.
own, like, a kind of internalized that belief myself, right?
Like what you just said.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I was going to say.
I could have told you if you were my friend.
Like, no, that's not what's going to show up.
It's going to be across the board, you know?
Yeah.
So men really do like everything.
Yeah, for sure.
Now, how, like, I always love priceless.
Like, I just always want to know, like, how much do you charge?
You said that you're, you, you wanted to advertise yourself more as a high-end
escort, right?
So do you have, like, oh, a minimum?
Like, what I've heard a lot is, like, oh, it's,
you know, this much per hour with a minimum of three hours overnight is more.
And sometimes like there's an upsell.
Like if you want to do this, this and that, it's more.
Can you give us a little bit on pricing?
I'm just always fascinated by that kind of stuff.
Yeah, sure.
So like the thing is because it is more legal here in Canada,
the prices are not as crazy as in the U.S.
Right.
Interesting.
But that's like one thing.
Yeah.
So it's not as crazy.
And the city that I live in is not like the biggest either.
Mm-hmm.
So like for me, the prices, I start as one hour.
hour.
Yeah.
And it's 300 per hour.
Uh-huh.
But what I like to do is to have kind of packages where we do something.
So I have packages about like doing showers or bath or having like a full on jacuzzi
experience.
And those like range from 500 to a thousand.
Mm-hmm.
And I also have like packages when we go to a movie or like we watch a movie at home.
Um, like those are like $6.50 for the movie and some.
proud of time.
Yeah.
And there are also like ones where we like we cook together, like we go to dinner.
But I think cooking together is like my favorite one because you actually get to have this
kind of, you know, chemistry and connection while you do this activity together.
Yeah.
And this is 800.
Oh, interesting.
Now, do you have a lot of repeat clients?
I would assume that you do.
Yeah, I do.
Like most of the people that I see come back.
Yeah.
So it's kind of an ongoing, right?
Because I've had, listen, I've had escorts on here, and then I've had, I've had on a lot of guys who, you know, see the escorts.
And, you know, a lot of the guys have told me, not all of them, but some of them, you know, that they develop real friendships and relationships.
I mean, they're not, you know, they're still maybe in love with their wife, but they see this woman over time.
And they do, they have a friendship, they consider it, because they see them often.
Yeah, yeah.
It really is about the connection for me.
So it's, it's something that I've been told of.
like by people that
as soon as they walk in
like I do my best to make it
not awkward
so like I'm always
bringing them with like a warm big hug
to kind of start this connection
right?
Because if you kind of have to work at it
it doesn't just happen magically
the things that you need to do
to nurture this connection.
Yeah.
And once the connection is there
yes it's about the sex
because it's enjoyable and satisfying of course
yeah.
But it's also about like recognizing
you as a person and them as a person too
and having this understanding that
yes we came together for this activity
but it doesn't prevent us from being true to each other
and like really talk about things and discover who we are.
Yeah, you know, you probably do well
because I think that I've had another girl on here named Molly
who was an escort and she became an escort
while I was talking to her.
Like she wasn't an escort on a couple of times we spoke
And then she started escorting because she was just a woman who loved sex and loved men and was so open about it.
And if you listen to her, she's just very unique in that I don't think, I think that, you know,
you're going to get all kinds of women doing it, right, for all kinds of different reasons.
And I think that, you know, people are much more intuitive than we think we are, right?
So I think men meeting you really must get the sense that you are different in that you really do like to connect to people.
and this is something that you really do because you actually enjoy it,
whereas there's probably some women that are just doing it for the cash.
Yeah, and it's fine too.
It really kind of shows through when you have this in-person time.
I guess this is also why OnlySans is not like really working for me
because I can't really be that genuine with so many people at the same time, right?
Yeah.
It's a lot easier for me to connect one-on-one than to connect to everybody.
Yeah, that's like what you, that's what you like and that's what you do. And I think that that shows through. So I would, that's why I assume that you had repeat customers because I think that that's, you know, harder to find. You know, everyone's different and it's not right or wrong, but that's what you offer besides, like you said the sex, which is, of course, going to be enjoyable. You offer this other thing where you really like that connection and you know how to build it. And you're enjoying it too. It's not like you're just doing it for the guy. You're doing it for yourself too because that's what you're in it for. That's what you're getting out of it as well.
Yeah, yeah. But you know, like something that I found interesting too is that like sometimes I like I kind of play around with my pricing and do promotions. And when I, I did a promotion recently. And so I met people that work a bit different from what I'm usually used to. And so it kind of showed me that not everyone is looking for that extra connection. Some people are also just looking to get in and out.
Yeah.
like fast and get that release and then be able to not like have to talk to you after you know.
Totally.
Yeah.
Transactional.
100% transactional.
Yeah.
And that and that works for some people for sure.
And you offer that as well, of course.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, like you can't really know before.
Yeah.
But it kind of shows sometimes in how people talk.
I like the messaging and the exchanges that we have before we actually meet.
But I, like those kind of appointments are not my favorite because they,
like I'm looking for that extra connection.
Right.
So it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's not everyone that wants that.
I,
I,
I was convinced that every man just wants to be loved on
and cuddled,
but no,
like some men just really,
just like to get in and out
and say bye and never see you again,
which is fine too, yeah.
Yeah, totally.
Now, as far as sex is concerned,
like,
are,
you're getting pleasure out of it,
I would assume,
as well.
Mm-hmm.
Yes, I am, yeah.
And what is on the table?
What's not on the table?
Is there anything?
You know, I mean, that's the other kind of stuff that I'm always interested in.
Is it just like, oh, I'll do anything for this amount of money or like, you know, this is the basic thing.
But if you want anal or a threesome, you know, like there's a different rate for that.
Yeah.
So the one thing that I don't do at all is anal.
I'm okay to receive like rimming or, well, just actually just that.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anal is absolutely out of the, it's not on the people at all for me.
But my service is really closer to the girlfriend experience.
Right.
So it's a lot of cuddling, kissing.
I do blow jobs.
Oh, my God, I love giving blood jobs.
You do.
One of my favorite parts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you swallow?
I do not know.
Like, it's, for me, it's mostly covered blow jobs.
Okay.
For, like, just health seasons.
Like, that's what I prefer.
Yeah.
For some clients, like, for me, for some, I don't even know if it's a scientific thing,
but I'm more comfortable when they're circumcised.
Uh-huh.
So if that's the case, well, sometimes I choose to do it without.
Yeah.
If they're okay with it, too.
Uh-huh.
But I don't swallow either.
Uh-huh.
You can come on my body, that's fine.
Because it looks good on black skin.
You have a little white, black ones.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's hot and sexy.
Uh-huh.
So that's on the table, too.
And I receive oral very well, too.
So you love when guys go down on you.
You like enjoy getting blow jobs.
And then you have sex with them.
You won't do anal.
Do you do couples ever?
Any kind of experience like that?
I've never had a serious request for couples.
I would love to do couples.
couples. I've had duos, so like other provide, like one guy booked two providers, me and my
friends. Those are always fun. Like, like group sex or duos or three sums or more is something
that I offer to. Yeah. But for like, let's say to a couple, I do charge extra, but if it's
with another provider, we just both each have our rate. And we usually match the highest
girls rate. Oh, okay. That's great. And now you, so you have a community of
women where you live and you all know each other.
It's kind of like a small world like any other sort of profession, right,
where everybody knows everybody kind of thing.
So you know other girls that are doing it and you go in together.
What's the largest group sex situation that you've ever been involved in?
For that, I was not paid.
It was in my personal time.
Yeah.
The largest, it was six people total.
Uh-huh.
And how did that come about it?
It was just in your regular life.
It was just in my regular life, yes.
It was, well, I had met two girls from a four-some.
It was three girls and one guy.
And so, like, I knew the guy and he invited me to meet those two girls.
And we, like, we had sex there.
I think it was kind of the point of getting to know each other.
Yeah.
And I really connected to those girls.
And I invited them over to my house another day and to meet two of the guys
that I have sex with regularly as well on my personal time.
Mm-hmm.
And we just had this great day of fun.
So everyone just, like, had sex with everybody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And now do the guys, like the guys that you're sleeping with in your regular life,
do they know what you do on the side, most of them?
Do you have relationships with, you know, are you dating,
have you ever dated anyone and are you open about what you do?
So no one in my personal life knows what I do.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so like, the only people that I know are like the girls that I know from the group in my city.
Mm-hmm.
But no, I've never disclosed it to anyone in my personal life.
I don't think I ever will.
Right.
And in terms of dating, I'm not dating at the moment, but I am seeing some people.
And I don't think I'd, I would, I would share that information.
It's kind of, uh, when I'm raven, I'm raven.
Yeah.
I'm who I got in my personal life, it's different.
Now, have you had a long-term boyfriend while you've been escorting and kept it from them?
Not while I was escorting.
Right.
Oh, actually, I had a boyfriend when I was trying to be a sugar baby.
Oh, really?
He didn't know what you were doing on the side.
No, he had no idea.
He knew I was interested.
He knew I was interested because I would talk about this a lot.
I would talking about it a lot.
And you just thought I would never have the courage to do it.
Right.
So he had no idea that you were actually doing it while you were with him.
Yes, I did, yeah.
Yeah.
So, and you said you have a regular job during the day, right?
And this is something that you do on the side?
Yes, yes, absolutely.
And now, do you have a thing on Twitter that you want to give out?
I mean, you could give it out at the end when we're all done, like sort of promote yourself if you want.
Do you have people that fly up to see you?
Because I didn't realize, I mean, there's places here in the United States where it's legal, right?
So I guess, you know, but I wonder if guys know, well, no, that it's still wrong.
It's still illegal for them, right, to hook up with you.
But, I mean, do guys travel to see you?
Do you, you said that you're not in a big city, right?
Yeah.
So, but we do have a lot of American men that come from business.
Right.
And quite a few of them see providers.
They do.
So, yeah.
So, like, the legality of it is, is not, like, a big issue here because for a client to be, I guess,
in a position where it's going to be having legal ramification, somebody has to tell, you know,
like the police about it.
Uh-huh.
And I've never seen this happen here.
It's just because, you know, like, the girls are protected by the law.
and it's not in our in our favor to tell on clients, right?
So it's not really a big issue here.
Like, we don't have raids.
Because I have friends that are American and they work in the U.S.
And they were telling me about, like,
raids at the Super Bowl or having law enforcement
trying to book you to kind of catch you.
So it's a very different climate.
It's like the fear around it for the legal aspect
is really, really low here.
Yeah. And that changes the whole game.
Yeah. So like when the American men or businessman
come to Canada,
it really makes a big difference.
And now that the border is open,
like we can see, it feels different.
Like we know that the Americans are here.
Yeah, no, but that's great. I mean, I wonder if the United States
is looking at what you guys are doing there and how it actually protects
women. Because I remember when Dawn was on, I mean,
she had some very horrific encounters,
not only with men that took advantage of her,
but when she was involved in a sting operation
and got busted, how the cops treated her.
I mean, it was pretty horrifying, you know?
And so, you know, legalizing it changes the game completely
and makes it way more safe for the woman that's doing it.
I mean, you're a woman.
I mean, that was going to be one of my questions,
like, have you had?
Because, you know, you're meeting guys sometimes for the first time.
I mean, I've heard of, like, certain websites here
in the States where like the women vet
the guys because there's like a system
where you know people could
talk about the men and give
ratings for them so you see that
I mean what's your way of vetting
the people that you meet when you're going to meet a guy for the
first time to know that he's safe
okay so for me
vetting is pretty
straightforward so I am part of
an independent network
of providers
there's only one that I know of in the city
and it's quite big there's a hundred
of women on there.
Right.
And so we have ways to, like, we have a list.
Like, let's say there's people that we have, that we have encountered,
either just by talking to them or in real life and something happens,
we can put them on that list and explain what happened.
So anyone that comes in the future and has their phone number,
their name or email address can look it up and see if that person is part of,
I guess, like the black list if you want to call it that way.
so then you can choose to see that person knowing this happened with another girl
or you can choose to decline the date.
Yeah.
Also, like, we ask for references.
Like, I ask for, if it's someone that has seen girls in the past,
I can ask who it was and reach out to the girl.
And having this community of the independent providers,
we can also ask each other, like, we have spreads of conversations,
like listing somebody's name and email or a phone number and ask or has anyone seen this person.
Yeah.
You just kind of double check.
And a lot of times we do have like people like that answer and say, okay, yes, like I've seen him six months ago and it was great.
Or it was just like give whatever information they want to give out.
And for me, on top of this, I also require a deposit.
Right.
So that really kind of shows me that they are serious.
daughter. Right, and they're legit. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And now do you have personal favorites and
like some guys that you actually really turned on why some guy, you know, I mean, I probably every guy wants
to believe that they're your favorite, but I mean, do you have favorites? I think like I have
multiple favorites for multiple reasons. Yeah. I have a favorite that I love getting low
dress too. I have a favorite that I love getting old from. Yeah. I have a favorite that I love
getting massages from like it's i guess it's like each person has their one thing that makes them
different right it's like a chemistry thing so like the guy that you love giving a blowjup to is
it just because you just it's like the perfect size for your mouth i mean like what is what do you
like what is for you like the hottest stuff like what is your personal favorite kind of things
even just out of the you know out of your when you're working okay so my personal
favorite when I'm not working is to kind of make
groups like happen. Right. Okay.
To like to organize kind of like a little setting where people like to pick the people
that I know will click together from like my own experience and like kind of watch them
enjoy themselves. Like I really like to watch as well. Right. So you're you got a little bit of
the voyeur in. So that situation where you brought on those two girls right and the guy and the two guys that
you knew because you knew them all, right?
And you were sort of the nucleus of that group setting.
And then you brought them all in and everyone hooked up.
That kind of insane.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So do you do that often?
That was satisfying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I mean, are you by, do you get, you fool around with the girls too?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have fun with the girls too.
But I think I prefer watching a girl get fucked before me fucking her.
Right, right.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
That's the lawyer in you.
Yeah, like while she's getting, you know, like pounded to just play with her breast or things like that.
Like this is, like, I like that part.
Like being a participant, but not like the main participant, if you will.
Right, right, right.
So how often do you set up like group sex situations?
I try about once a month.
Yeah, like once a month is.
It's about like the week that I go out because I'm kind of I like to try travel a lot as well
Like I I tour into different cities in Canada
Oh interesting okay
I'm away for for a big part of the time but
It's uh once a month is about like when I have those things
I would love to make it happen with clients too
But it kind of I would need a better like it would be with regulars because I would need to really know what that person
likes
to make it happen and have this good chemistry with everybody.
Like it would not be fair to ask me to match people that I don't know personally.
Right, right.
And do you find that the sex is better with those repeat customers
because like you just said that you do get to know what they like
and what turns them on?
And so the sex gets better over time with them,
just like it would with any guy that you're hooking up with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like getting to know their bodies more and like watch their reactions over time.
And because also sometimes like something that you did the first few times kind of changes,
like the way that you do things changes.
And you can see if it's for the better or for the worst, right?
Right.
Like only time can tell if you're really getting to know the person's body and giving them pleasure the way they want to receive it.
Yeah.
And now, like, if people in your regular life, right, because you said this is a total secret, nobody knows.
If people in your regular life found out, would they be, like, shocked or would they be like, oh, yeah, she's like a very sexual person?
So, you know, I mean, or would they be like, no way, I can't believe it.
So, like, I would think the people that I have, like, you know, the three sons and group sex with, I don't think they would be that shocked.
Right.
Like I think they would kind of be like, at first, not believe it, but then think about it and think about like how I am with them.
Yeah.
And be like, oh, okay, I see it now.
Like, I can see this happening.
Yeah.
Like, why did I not think of this before kind of thing, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, this kind of reaction.
Yeah.
But the rest of my friends and my family, like, no, they would be in disbelieve.
I don't think they would believe anyone that tells them that I'm an escort.
Right.
Now, what do you see like for your future?
Like, I mean, is this something that you feel like you'd do forever?
Do you feel like maybe one day if you ever got in a serious relationship?
You'd put it, you know, you'd shelf it.
I mean, what do you, how do you see your future?
I think what I would really love to have one day would be to have an agency.
Right.
Because I find that a lot of women that get into this business
haven't had the chance or the time or the energy to really do the research they needed to do.
And it could be like very isolating as well.
Right.
For me, like I'm lucky enough that in my personality, I just like to research things to the end of the earth.
Right.
Like this is just who I am and this is what I do.
Yeah.
In any situation, I just researched a hell out of it until there's nothing else to be found.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm the same way.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you are.
Yeah, for sure.
And so then you're the perfect person for other people, right?
Because you don't mind doing it.
And then you could disseminate that information because you love getting it, right?
I get it.
Uh-huh.
Absolutely.
So having an agency, like, it would be, I would still get to be in the business in a way if I do get, like, you know.
Because if I get married or when I get married, I would stop in-person work.
Yeah.
It's focused on my husband.
But I would still, like this world is a, like, this world is a,
world that I really adore and I really love being in it. So that would be an alternative way to
being in it and being useful for other women, other people to make informed decisions and be as safe
as possible. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah. And also I think it's like, you know, that part of you that
likes to hook up the group, you know, things. That's the same part of you that would set up the
organization. You're like that person. You're the head person putting things together, making the stuff
happen, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that same part of you. Now, as far as relationships are
concerned, like, in, you said, like, when I get married, right, and you see yourself,
you wouldn't do in person work. Do you see yourself as a monogamous person? Is that what you
believe in? Do you, do, would you have an open relationship with your guy? If I'm fully honest,
yeah, I don't even know because I have tried to be in monogamous relationships. Yeah.
and failed.
I've always ended up cheating on my partner,
which is not like, you know, like,
I really tried.
I really tried, but it didn't work.
Well, what happens?
Like, you're trying, you're with this guy,
and then some other guy comes along.
You're like, oh, I got to fuck him.
Like, I can't.
And it just happens.
I mean, what happens that you can't stay monogamous?
Okay, so I'll tell you what happened the last time.
Yeah.
The last time I was volunteering for an organization.
in the city.
And so this person was also another volunteer, and this person offered to drive me home
because it was late, and I didn't have a car at the time.
Yeah.
But you're dating somebody.
And you're dating somebody at this time, right?
Yes, I was dating somebody.
I was dating somebody out.
Right.
And so the volunteer offered to drive me home because people were kind of like cuddling and
finding rides home.
So it was happening that way.
Okay.
And so on we, I get in the car and we go and we start talking.
and first the conversation kind of gets sexual.
But like in a kind of an innocent way.
Yeah.
And at some point we just decide to park somewhere close to my house and we have sex in the car.
So yeah, I was trying to get home.
This is what I was trying to do.
And this is what happened.
Yeah.
And yeah, I don't know.
Like it's, I guess there's some.
thing about me that makes me, like, I like to test people's proclivities.
Yeah.
You know?
I like to see what kind of person they are.
And I kind of say something that if they are about this life, they would respond to, right?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
And when it happens, it just happens.
Yeah, listen, it's that same part of yourself that's, like, curious about doing all that
stuff, you know, and the same part of you that is interested in making connections with men.
you know, you have that probably interest in human being nature too.
So you're pushing those boundaries with those conversations,
whereas another girl in that car on the ride home would shut that conversation down probably
maybe because you'd be uncomfortable when I went to sex.
The part of you that's into all the stuff is like curious, like how far can this go?
And then you start to get turned on because it's like it's further down into it, right?
Because you're a normal horny girl, right?
And then before you know it, you're banging in the car on the side of the road.
And you just cheated on your boyfriend.
Yeah, by accident.
It really was not right.
So it's just it's your concoction.
It's the way that you are.
But listen, you know, you're young and I think younger people, I say this all the time
on my podcast, those are like younger people are a lot more open and a lot more open to
trying to make different kinds of relationships work, right?
When I was younger, it was very much like either you had a monogamous relationship with
somebody or you didn't or you were single.
I mean, there wasn't anything in the middle of that.
And so then you got a lot of people cheating and doing.
all this stuff, but it was always on the download. But nobody, you know, had open relationships or tried
to, you know, different things because monogamy doesn't work for a lot of people, right? And maybe you'll
figure out what does work for you when you meet that right person, you know, or maybe by the time
you meet that right person, it, you'll feel different. Like, who knows, right? But if you're not looking
for that right now, it doesn't really matter. You're kind of perfectly suited for what you're doing
and you're living true to yourself, and that's what's the most important.
Yes, I really feel that.
I really feel that I'm living true to myself at the moment.
So that's a very good way of putting it.
Yeah, and that's what's most important.
It's like, you know, listen, I remember having a friend sit across with me,
and he was in a relationship, and he was like,
oh, you know, I just wish I could just go out every night and fuck whoever I wanted
and I go out and I see all these hot girls.
I just want to fuck them all.
I'm like, you actually can do that.
It's called being single.
You know, you could do that any,
time you want. I mean, it's not like the hardest thing in the world. Just like, break up with your
girlfriend, live your fucking life for a little while and then get married and have kids, you know,
but a lot of people just don't sort of live out parts of themselves and, and they do what they
think that they have to do, right? And they read that book like, okay, I'm this age and at this
age I go to college and at this age I get married. And, you know, it's like a handbook that people
follow. And that gets a lot of people in trouble because everyone's going to be different. And not
to say that some people don't want to follow that handbook and it's very,
natural for them, but some people follow it just because it's shoved into their
throats at a young age by society. And then they're the ones that are, you know,
calling into my show, living a secret life, you know, wearing their mommy's panties. I mean,
like, I, you know, I've heard it all. And a lot of it is done on the download because,
not because like for you, I get why you do it. There's a lot of, there's still a lot of stuff that
judgment and stuff for you that, you know, it's why it's your personal business. But a lot of
people are in relationships, you know, been married for 20 years and living double lives
because they haven't been able to really be true to who they are for whatever reason, you know.
And so you get out of your system.
You could like, I think it was a very honest answer when you're just like, I just don't know the answer to that if I want to be honest.
Like I don't know when I asked you about being how you feel about that because maybe you would change.
You know, who knows?
It doesn't, you know, I think it's important to know that you don't know.
Then that's an answer, you know.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so we'll see when I get to that.
I'll call you again and I'll let you know.
Yeah, exactly.
Now, do you want to give like a shout out to anything on my show?
Like, I mean, do you want to, you're going to send me some anonymous hot picks, like nothing pornographic.
Like I said, like when I'm on Twitter or sometimes I go to people's things and I'm like, holy shit.
I can't post any of this, that kind of stuff on Patreon, but a lot of the girls always send in pictures.
And they send in definitely sexy things, right?
So if you want to send me a couple
Like hot anonymous picks of you
I'll post them on Patreon
Do you want to give out your Twitter
Anything for people to follow you or do you want to give out
Because like a lot of times you know
I'll get guys emailing me like oh I want to contact this person or whatever
I mean do you want me to forward anyone to you
Do you want to give out an email address or a website or I don't know
You know I'm just giving you the sort of mic to
Do whatever you want to promote yourself if you want to
Well I
love to meet some new gentlemen, you know.
It's what I do and it's what I enjoy.
So, of course, I would love to do that.
So my Twitter is X-Raven Onix.
My email is also X-R-V-N-O-N-X at g-mail.com.
Can you spell that?
And I'll put it in the description probably.
So, yeah, just spell it, though, as well.
So X-R-A-Z-E-N-O-N-N-E-E-E.
Y, X.
Mm-hmm.
At Gmail.
And that's your Twitter.
And then also, if they want to email you, they do that at Gmail, right?
And people could travel to you.
You travel around Canada.
Do you ever go to the States?
Well, the thing is, I'm kind of scared to go because with the Sesta Fusta
at the border, I could get banned from the U.S. for five years.
If they find out that if they get a way to link Raven to who I am legally.
who could ban me from coming to the U.S.
Oh, wow.
So I prefer not to go to the U.S.,
but I could go to any other country in the world,
and it can come to me as well.
Right.
And do you travel?
Have you traveled a lot out of the country
to see people to clients?
Yes.
Sometimes, like, I have clients that take me on vacation
for a week or two.
So, yeah, I've done it, and it's a lot of fun.
Where have you gone?
I have gone to Turks and Kato.
Mm-hmm.
I have gone to Turks and Cape Coast.
to Mexico.
I've gone to Italy
and I've gone to Turkey
for it. Oh, I've always wanted to go to Turkey.
Was it beautiful?
Oh my God, it's so beautiful. It's like a
really the meeting point of the East
and the West. Right.
In terms of like the culture and the
things that you see and the food and everything.
It's just, it's beautiful. If you get the chance to go,
please go. You know, I was in Rhodes,
which is a Greek island and
when you're on the beach
in roads, you look across,
and Turkey's right there.
And you could do a day trip.
And I don't remember why we didn't do the day trip.
I mean, it was like right there.
But I've always wanted to go.
It looks so beautiful.
Now, do you enjoy those experience, like traveling with the guy?
Yes, I do.
I really do.
That's, we get to do activities, and we get to bond over things,
and you get to see a different side of somebody.
Like, you really get to know someone once you travel with that.
Yeah, totally, yeah, for better or worse.
But let me ask you this.
Do you ever like crash after a situation like that in that, you know, here you are,
you travel with a guy.
It's like you're on, you know, it's like you have a fake boyfriend or a fake husband for a week,
right?
He's showering you at gifts.
You're having sex.
You have all this companionship.
And then you come home and it just all goes away and you're back in your world and like
he's not there.
Or is that something that you like the fact that you get home and you could be done with that?
Or is there any kind of emotional attachment that you get ever that is a little,
bit of a
confliction?
I think what I
like the most
about what I do
is that it's all
kind of more
ephemeral.
Like everything has
an end
point or
end date
or end time,
right?
Yeah.
And I'm truly
believed to
be in the
moment and
enjoy the moment
because you know
it's going to
be gone at some point.
Yeah.
So I see it
that way.
So when I get home
from a
trip
with a gentleman.
Yeah.
I'm happy that I had the experience.
Yeah.
But I'm ready to move on to the next thing.
Yeah, that's awesome.
In that way.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it is the perfect thing for you, right?
And then you are that perfect companion for that guy that's looking for that same experience, right?
Yeah.
And they're paying for it so they don't have that problem because what happens sometimes with people
who set up these kinds of situations and they can't handle it.
And they're not the kind of person that is like you that live in the moment.
you know, they could become like stalkers, you know, or, you know, there's problems that happen, right?
Because so I think that's why it's wonderful that there are women like you that offer services,
that it's legal where you are, right, so that everybody's happy.
Yeah.
Do you see my last question for you, I forgot to ask, do you see a lot of married men?
Like, I mean, if you, with all your clients, is it like 50-50 or most of the guys married or some of them married?
Like, I mean, what do you notice with your clients?
Okay. So for the ones that are over 35, usually they are married.
Right.
Usually they are married.
But this would be maybe like half of my clientele.
The other half are three young college students.
Right.
And now do they tell you, like, do these guys sit around?
Because a lot of times, you know, these guys that I have on, let's the escorts,
will tell me, like, they tell these girls things that they don't tell anybody, right?
So I'm assuming sometimes you're kind of like a me, right, in their life,
like in a not, you know, they could sort of tell you anything because it's a non-judgmental place
and it's not a part of their real world.
So do you find that these guys tell you things?
And do you know kind of why or have like the inside knowledge of why these guys are seeing escorts
behind their wives back?
So for the married ones, all of the ones that I have as clients are very happily married.
Right.
So we do not really speak about their wives or their home life.
Yeah.
We may speak about their children if there's something special happening,
but not like on an ongoing basis.
Yeah.
But from most of what I've heard, the reason that they're seeing me is usually because
the person they married was the ideal partner to build a life with.
Yeah.
but that person was not
fulfilling
the fantasy
of the girl
that they wanted to fuck
right
right
so like that's why
I'm saying they're happily married
but I know that I look
very very different
from the person that they married
right
right so like maybe they wanted to
play around and have fun
and get sucked by a black girl
yeah
but then the person they wanted to build a life with
and have children with
would be someone from their enmity usually.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so this is what I'm getting from the conversations that I've had so far.
Right, and so it's just about sex.
It doesn't mean that they don't love their wives.
It's just that variety that they're looking for.
And they're, you know, they find you to fulfill that and then they go home to their wives.
And I think that's what is, I think a lot of times is very hard.
I know as a woman for me, you know, I think it's a lot better if you're,
guy is seeing somebody like you on the side than, you know, his office mate, right?
That can turn into an emotional experience, right?
A lot of times the girls doing what you're doing are like you.
They're not looking to have a relationship with any of the guys.
There's no confusion there, right?
It's very cut and dry.
You're not looking in that world for the guy that you're eventually going to marry.
So you're not going to take that guy away.
from that woman?
Not at all.
Not at all.
Like, I'm not trying to steal anyone's husband.
This is not my purpose.
But if I'm able to fulfill a fantasy,
because, like, I truly believe,
and from what I've,
even in my personal life,
I know that a lot of men,
they choose their wives
according to certain set of criteria.
Yeah.
But then when they think with their dicks,
it's a different set of criteria, right?
So, for me, it makes a lot of sense
to being married and happily married,
but still wanting to see somebody else for this urge that you have,
which is not like your whole life.
Because your whole life is with that woman that you married.
Yeah.
So it's different.
And for me, it's acceptable.
It's all, it's okay.
It's all good.
But the funny thing is, like,
by younger clients that are not married,
when they get in the relationship, they let me know.
And so, like, we have kind of,
we have kind of a send-offs because they are
with someone and they're getting serious and they're no longer going to see me because they have
this new relationship and they don't want to jeopardize that.
Yeah.
I find it very cute that I get to know like they're moving on with somebody else and they're
telling me all about this girl and I wish them well, you know, like it's no hard feelings.
I know that life goes on and if they do end up, you know, married, then I guess we'll never
see each other again.
But if something happens and they break up, then my phone number is going to still be available
for them.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh, very clean, very good.
Like I love talking to somebody where there's no confliction and it's, you know, you're doing it from a place of enjoyment, right?
And satisfaction.
I feel like I would only talk to those kind of escorts.
I believe that like anything, you know, there's people out there that are doing it for all different kinds of reasons.
I think because I think that's what's so great about legalizing it.
I think when you take away this, when you, when you legalize it, right?
The stigma goes away.
People could be more honest.
And then so you attract a different kind of person and you get, you know, you're going
to get people more like you doing it than women maybe that are forced into it or not doing it,
you know, doing it out of like a dysfunctional reason, right?
Because we all, I think a lot of people have an idea of what kind of person is doing
this kind of sex work, right?
But I think that that's changing.
And I think legalizing it helps that.
Yeah, I'm sure there's always going to be the creepy people and the trafficking and all those, like, the dark side of the industry is never going to go away.
Yeah, that's the right way to say it. Yeah, like there is that dark side. Yeah, for sure.
But it kind of, I think, I truly hope that having a climate like it is here in Canada makes more room for women that actually wants to be doing this as a career and are serious about it.
and are able to actually make it work for them.
Yeah.
And so that there's less of a need for this dark side to be here
because there's like the women that actually want to do this as a job.
Right, right, like you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
It's true.
I didn't know that it was legal like that in Canada,
but I think that that is a good example for people.
But anyway, listen, Raven, thank you so much for calling in.
How did you find my show?
Was it my Instagram post or looking for women?
I forget.
How did you find my show?
Yeah, like the post about looking for women to talk.
That's how I found your show.
Yeah.
And I think it was some other escort that I know has done a podcast on another platform.
And when I looked it up, there was suggestions of a list of other similar podcasts and yours was on the show.
Right.
Awesome.
I'm so glad you called in.
I love hearing like a different perspective.
I like you, I'm a very curious person.
So, I mean, this is why I've been doing my show for seven years.
I've talked to over 400 people.
I just started making money.
And so obviously I love it.
You know, I like it.
You know, it's interesting to me.
And I did learn a lot from you.
And I thank you so much for calling in.
Send me those pictures.
You know, women always bump everybody out of the water.
So this episode will be posted either this Sunday or next or it's a bonus episode.
But so you'll be up super soon.
Okay.
And I'll give everybody's your email.
Give it out again.
Raven, say it again, your email.
It's X, Raven on X.
X-R-A-V-E-N-O-N-Y-X at Gmail.com.
Okay, awesome.
Thank you so much for calling in.
Thank you for your time and have a great day.
You too.
Bye.
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