Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 435 - Cain's Girlfriend's Fantasy Was to Kidnap and "Rape" Him
Episode Date: December 23, 2021Cain calls in to talk all about his ex girlfriend's kinky fantasy which involved encasement, bdsm, kidnapping, burglary, (fake) guns, "rape" and a whole lot more. How many times did he act out this fa...ntasy with his ex girlfriend? How hardcore did the role play get? What kind of s-e-x did they have while they were involved in the fantasy? Tune in for all the kinky details and hear all about how her pantyhose fetish played a big role in her fantasy, why it turned her on and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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but you are going to be celebrating like at least a week off from work.
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And enjoy this episode because today it is a repeat,
but I'm sure most of you have not heard this story.
And it's a really good one.
I went through my back catalog and I was like, hmm, which one should I air?
And I was like, I'm going to air one that was one of my all-time faves because it was something so
different and specific that I had never heard before.
And is the one where Kane called in to talk about how his girlfriend, his ex-girlfriend,
used to be into, like she had these fantasies of like raping and kidnapping him.
And when you hear how she pulled it off, it's going to give you PTSD.
Is that the right way to say it?
Okay?
Like seriously, I called her gun girl in this episode.
She is no joke.
She is hardcore.
She had some fetishes.
The shit she did to him is cray cray.
And it's really interesting, actually.
And that's why I decided to re-air.
This is an older episode.
So I might interrupt a lot more than I do now.
So don't send me emails about it.
Just deal with it.
It's still a great episode.
Kane is fascinating.
There was an update to his story.
And I'm going to give you that update.
Actually, when I do the Where Are They Now.
I'm going to tell you what happened with him.
I'm doing all Where Are They Now episodes in January.
But right now you're going to get to hear Kane's story about his girlfriend that used to kidnap and rape him and all that good stuff.
It's really good.
So anyway, sit back, relax, and enjoy.
I'm going to be right back on with Kane.
Have a great holiday.
Thanks for tuning into my show.
How are you doing tonight today, tonight?
Well, I'm doing fantastic.
How about yourself?
I'm doing good.
So, you know, I don't know where you're from, but you have an accent.
I always love a good southern accent.
I don't know if you're from the South or where you're from.
I don't even know what your real name is, but you're using the name Kane.
I've never had a cane on my show.
But I have had other guys that are into pantyhose, but you are into like something that,
I don't know.
You explain some stuff in an email to me, right?
But I don't really know the whole long-winded story.
It's not like you're into wearing panty hose or you're into them, but you're,
You had a girlfriend that was, right?
Yes, I've actually had a couple.
Oh, you've had a couple, actually, the first one that turned you on to it and then many more after that?
Yeah.
So how did it start with the first one?
Because it was more like it was her thing.
And it was like a kind of hardcore.
Like, what did she like to do?
And how did she get you into it?
The first time that she really got me into it, oddly enough, was our first date.
We went out.
And it was funny because we were just going.
going out as friends.
And next thing, you know, she shows up in, you know, the little black dress.
And she's wearing a pair of thigh highs, just the regular sheer thigh highs.
Wait, let me just ask you a quick question, because you sound so super young now.
How old were you at the time of this date with this girl?
26.
Okay.
Okay, go on.
And she shows up, and I mean, she's flat-footed.
She was 5-11.
So she had a beautiful set of legs and that just made it even better.
And we went out and then actually I ended up drinking a little too much.
She ended up getting a room downtown.
And from that point, we were in the bed and she kind of hikes a leg up on me.
And I kind of get the feel of it on her.
And it just blew me away.
like I've always kind of had the stocking panty hose thing kind of in the back of my mind.
Meaning like you knew that it was like a turn on.
You liked the way it looked on women when you saw it and you always felt like it would be something that you'd be into
if like you could feel them while you were fucking a girl or something like that.
Oh, absolutely.
Right.
Okay.
The thing that's kind of funny is, you know, growing up, you know, I was always kind of told nothing should kind of have control over you.
I grew up in kind of a very patriarchal type home.
Mm-hmm.
So it's kind of funny to admit that I have a fetish of sorts.
How come?
Like, what do you mean, like, you grew up in a patriarchal home, and why would that have to do with, like, well, I guess because you're saying it's like the control thing, right?
Because, like, if you have a fetish, do you just assume that that means that that has control over you?
Like, what do you mean?
In a sense.
I would say the best way to put it is that, I mean, just for an example, if I'm walking down the street and then you happen to pass me and you look fantastic in a pair of panty hose.
Right.
It's going to get my attention.
Whatever it is that I was focused on before, you know, usually I have pretty laser focus.
But whatever I'm focused on before, just fairy dust flies away.
Right.
So it has control over you, like in that sense, right?
so it could just completely distract you.
Yes, ma'am.
Okay.
And do you like hose, like if I'm walking by you and I'm wearing nude stockings, like, is that
what you mean by panty hose or are you meaning like black or like fishnets or thigh highs?
Like, I don't understand the nude panty hose thing, but that's supposedly like the,
that's what guys like you like, right?
To be honest, I'm not a fan of the nude ones.
Oh, you aren't.
Okay, good.
I think they're just not attractive at all.
It's like weird looking if you ask me.
Yeah.
Right. It's like kind of school lunch lady kind of thing going on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not that hot, right? Not sexy. You like a more sexy kind of a thing, right? Like a black or something like that. She like, right? Okay. I'm more of into sheer than fish net. Right. Okay. So you had that experience with that first girl. She was wearing, she had like killer legs. She's wearing thigh highs, right? And so you realize like now like it's a real turn on for you.
Yes. And then what happens?
And then we are actually seeing each other for, I'd say, another three or four months.
And she kind of springs it on me on my 27th birthday.
She has always had a BDSM side tour.
And I understood that.
She liked to be dominant.
I like to be submissive in the bedroom.
Uh-huh.
Did you know that you were into that?
just because it's secretly in your mind that's what you
like fantasized about or were you and her
sort of taking those roles with each other
or had you been the submissive one in relationships before?
Like how would you know you're a submissive?
I was actually submissive before
with the previous girlfriend when I was in college.
Okay, okay. So you knew that that's what you were into
and she happened to be into being the dominance.
You guys were like the perfect match.
Yes, absolutely.
Okay, cool. Go on.
And her thing was she, her fantasy was to be kind of like a burglar, like break into, to my home and, you know, kind of snoop around and sneak up on me.
Right.
I'm sorry.
Kind of her thing was that she loved to wear them all over.
She loved to encase herself.
Right.
That's what you mean.
Right.
That's what you mean.
Yeah, she wanted to do the burglary thing,
but she also wanted to be encased in pantyhose, right?
Which did she tell you first?
Like, I want to the encasement side of her or the burglar side of her?
The burglar side of her is what she told me about first.
Okay, so she said, I want to like burglarize your house, pretend I come in.
It's like interesting that like is she pretending she,
so as a woman, she wants to like go into a guy, like her fantasy is to like,
as a woman go into a guy's place or to snoop around without him,
and then like fuck him like and force him to have sex with her yes okay um and then she says oh
and by the way i want to do it fully encased in hose um the way that she kind of presented it to me
um as she kind of had the whole outfit laid out on the bed oh okay yeah and of course you know
when a woman says hey or at least to me hey i want to wear like this body stocking thing it's
Shear.
You see everything.
And she had, now this is kind of where it got a little hardcore for me.
Yeah.
Like a pair of latex gloves.
Right.
And then she had a stocking.
And I was kind of like, okay, well, what's that for?
She goes, well, if I'm committing a crime, I have to hide my face, right?
Right.
So it was over her face, too.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
And did she look hot?
I mean, I could see the body thing and everything, right?
Yeah. She's totally naked. You could see through everything, right? And it's totally forfeiting, right? But then she puts the stocking as well over her face.
Yeah. She, you know, and I can totally see kind of where you're going as far as it kind of scrunching up your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's kind of looking stupid. Yeah. And her thing was that she actually had cut a hole in the back of it to where she could put her hair in a ponytail and pull it back.
Oh, interesting.
She had this down.
Has she had done this before?
Do you know?
Not that I'm aware of.
Right.
Okay.
She probably did.
Maybe you and she just practiced it herself.
You know what?
Maybe she put on that outfit, you know what I mean?
And had that fantasy in her head.
And you were the first person that she, like, lived it out with in real life, you know?
Because how did she know to cut that hole out for her hair?
Right.
Exactly.
Right.
Right.
You make a valid point there.
Yeah.
It was pretty thought out.
But that's hot, right?
For you especially.
because she didn't know that you were like into panty hose, right?
I mean, I think maybe a regular guy,
even if he wasn't into panty hose,
would just be into the whole like weirdo scenario, right?
Because it's just like, I don't know, right?
But it just turns out that like you're A, submissive, right?
So you like the whole you're going to be fucking raped thing.
And then B, you happen to be into panty hose.
And she wants to be fully encased in them.
Like, you really guys did sniff each other out properly.
Because, like, who would have known that you guys would have been,
so well matched sexually because these are like it's not like a typical thing you know they're kind
of like hardcore out there stuff like i've fucked a lot of guys that i don't know what i never met one
that wanted to be encased in you know right hose and latex it's not like a it's like not a common
thing you know so it was really like you guys were perfectly fit matched yeah oh absolutely you had
hit the jackpot oh yeah i hit the jackpot won the super bowl however you want to say it yeah right
It was good for her because, like, she put that out there for you and you were like, what the
fuck?
You were like totally into it.
So how did you have your own place at the time and she was going to come to your place
and do it or did you just enact this wherever you were?
How real did your whole sort of scenario become?
The scenario actually became one of the realest point the first time.
I really didn't, I really wasn't warned about it.
It just kind of happened.
What do you mean?
So wait, did you live in your own apartment and then she just broke in?
Like, what do you mean?
It was real.
Yeah, actually, I had an apartment.
Okay.
I'm from Indianapolis, had an apartment downtown Indianapolis.
Uh-huh.
And I think that she gets on a flight to go on a meeting for her job.
I go home.
But wait, one second, I just got to ask you a quick question.
after she tells you that she's into this and she wants to do that and you're said your game right and you guys decide you're going to do it
does she say to you okay i'm going to do it when you least expect it or do she say okay let's do it like on a certain day and then she shows up on another day
did you know what you mean right no actually i did not know it was coming oh she's good so yeah okay so she just said
okay this is what i want to do and you said okay and then you made plans to maybe do it in the future but
you didn't set a time.
Right, exactly.
I think the conversation was mostly about her kind of revealing it to me.
Right, and just making sure you'd be down.
She was just making sure you were down.
But she probably knew the whole time she was going to come to your house on a random day and rape you.
Pretty much, yeah.
And essentially what happened was is I let her, you know, I dropped her off at her parents' house.
You mean for this vacation she was taking or this trip she was taking?
Yes. And they were actually not home at the time. So I dropped her off and, you know, told her love you by, went to, went back home, went out with friends. And then I came home and went to bed. And I was texting her, you know, just saying, hey, I'm going to bed. And she was like, think of me and all of that. And next thing, you know, I would say I'm asleep. And I all of a sudden.
feel that someone else is there.
Oh my God.
That's fucking scary.
I'm sorry.
You didn't get any PSTD from this.
PSTD.
What is the post-traumatic?
PTSD.
No, I didn't.
Like, you kind of have that feeling when you're asleep.
Like, you kind of wake up in a jolt.
Yeah.
And you could.
Yeah.
And that's what happened is I woke up in a jolt.
Uh-huh.
And she was quick because the whole time that I was asleep,
she had actually gotten a zip tie around the bar on the bed and around my wrist and just as I woke up, she pulled it on my right hand.
So she had already, like, was ready to tie you up.
Like you were already almost tied up.
So the minute you opened your eyes and you knew that she was there, she then tied you.
She didn't even do it before.
She let you wake up and then she's like, got you.
Yeah.
She's like, she's a professional.
She had to have done the shippy form, sorry to say.
That's pretty cool.
Okay, so she ties that one arm up.
She ties you up.
And then she, yeah, can now tell the story.
Sorry, I keep cutting you on.
No, you're fine.
She had tied up the right hand, and, of course, you know,
kicks off in my mind as I'm seeing a damn near six foot three brunette standing there.
Yeah.
That I'm like, okay, this is what's happening.
Right, you know it's your girl.
Right, and I know that she likes when I'm a little more defiant towards her.
Oh, like she wants you to fight, fight her.
Yes, okay.
And she just kind of shot me a look and said, you know, it's not really a use fighting.
And I said, well, why is that?
And then her left hand pulls out it is a toy, but it was a gun.
Oh, interesting.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So she pulls out like a fake gun, but it looks like a, like it's a gun, right?
Right.
And she was like, just go ahead and put your arm back.
I put my arm back.
She zip ties me and then proceeds to do her thing.
What did she do?
Tell the whole story.
I think people are going to find it interesting.
Like, so what did she do?
She ties up your other hand, right?
So your arms are tied.
Your legs are you kicking and, you know, moving around because you're fighting her back?
Um, she didn't even really tie my legs down. I think once we got into it, she knew that I would just kind of let her have her way.
Yeah, yeah. Okay.
But her thing was she liked it to be fairly real.
So whenever, you know, she tied the second hand up, I would, you know, try and call out for help.
And I didn't even get the H.E. and help out.
And she jumps on top of me and puts her hand over my mouth and tells me to, you know, shut the fuck up.
And then smacks me across my face.
Wow.
Okay.
We're going to analyze this girl when you're done with this hot story.
I'm not going to break the story with my thoughts on her.
Okay, so she smacks your fate.
So she's really going at it.
And you love this, right?
Because this is like the BDSM part of you guys coming out.
Oh, absolutely.
It was one of those things where we both really enjoyed it,
just for the simple fact that I loved relinquishing control to her.
you know she was never super rough about it
but she liked the scenario
her thing was especially with the psychological aspect
yeah uh-huh yeah
I was just whispering things in my ear
like what kind of shit would she whisper
uh you know your mind now
stop resisting stop fighting
you know give me what I want
give me what I came for right
and what she came for was
she wanted you to like fuck her
did she sit on your face like how bad
did she use and abuse you what'd she do
um for the first part
of it yeah you're right she did sit on my face
and I mean it was a lot of
like her her telling me
lick the pussy
and then from that point you know once she
got off of there
then it was a lot of kissing my neck because
that is like the spot where I just
turned into jello
and when she had me there she
on top. I think the biggest part that she liked about it was when I actually got loose.
I got my right arm loose. And I actually grabbed a holdover and actually kind of started
inflicting, you know, my will back towards her. Right. And she kind of liked that power
struggle back and forth. But in the end, she always took it right back. Right. Because she liked when you
thought so when you really almost got control
but then she could get it back. I mean all the
I could I could if she's like into
that whole psychological game it makes sense
that she would like all that kind of stuff it just would add
to it. Right. Absolutely.
How do you fuck her through the latex? Like did she have a
hole in there? Um no
actually the the
outfit she was wearing was like a body stocking. It was like
panty hose all over but like kind of
in a seamed suit.
Uh-huh. And she had
latex gloves like the
the surgical type glove. Right. Yeah. And, you know, there was a hole in the body stocking.
And, yeah, we went at it. She rode me, you know, missionary, reverse cowgirl. And a lot of it for her was,
especially in reverse cowgirl, you know, turning around and kind of peeking at me over her shoulder.
That was something that always kind of just made me absolutely melt.
How come? I think it was, she had the biggest,
beautiful brown eyes.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
But you could see them through the panty house?
Yeah, because the mask itself was sheer.
It was just a stocking.
Right, right, right.
Okay.
So, like, I could see, I could see her face.
And you could see those big eyes.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
So whenever she, you know, kind of peeked back at me, give me a little wink,
and then, you know, keep going from there.
That was something that always made me melt.
Right.
And now you say she's six, four, like, she's a really tall girl, right?
Yeah, she was 511 flat-footed, and always wore high heels whenever she did this.
Right.
And how tall are you?
I'm 6-2.
Okay.
So it would take a bigger girl, like, I mean, because you want to be sort of, because
you're the submissive, right?
You like that.
Yeah.
It actually helps too, that physically she's as big as you, if not bigger, when she
puts on those heels, right?
So you do feel like when she's sitting on your face and everything, like you're kind
of being smothered.
Like, that's a part of being submissive, right?
Is that kind of feeling, right?
I mean, if she was like 5-2, it wouldn't work as well.
Right, exactly.
Right?
Yeah.
So her having that, you know, Amazonian type of look to her.
And I think kind of what set the whole thing off in her mind about doing that scenario is we went and watched one of the Marvel, D.C. movies.
And I said, you know what?
I think it'd be awesome to fuck Wonder Woman or Catwoman.
Right.
And she stuck to that Catwoman thing.
but with pantyos.
Right.
So she did the reverse cowgirl.
She kept turning around looking at you.
Like how many times do you guys come to it?
And how long did this whole sort of set like scenario take place?
The whole scenario was actually about two and a half to three hours long.
You being tied up the whole time.
Like how many?
And she just like kept fucking you and teasing you and all kinds of things to you.
Did she do everything to you?
Like blow you, sit on your face?
Yeah.
For the most part.
I will say that she was incredibly dedicated to the role.
Yeah.
Because once, you know, her and I would come, basically what would happen is she would, you know, kind of turn her back to me and lift up her mask a little bit, like probably just above her eyebrows and take a drink of water, kind of wipe the sweat off and then pull her mask back down, turn around and go right back at it.
Right.
So she really stayed in character
Yeah, the whole time
And now when it was finally over
Like after the two and a half hours
Did she leave like the burglar or what?
Or did she stay and you guys talked
And was like that was fucking hot
Like did she break character then
Or did you she have to wait till the next day?
She actually broke character
Right as we came the last time
Right
And was she like wow that was fucking good
Yeah
Because essentially
Essentially what happened is
we're getting to the point of where we're about to come.
And she pulls the mask off and just starts telling me, you know, come for me.
Come on.
And it happens.
And after that, you know, kiss, kind of cuddle just a bit.
And then, you know, she sets me free.
Right.
And then she took everything off and everything was done.
Right.
And so how many, like that, I mean, you're not married to this girl?
Like, I am not.
Okay.
I mean, why would you break up with that shit?
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, I don't know.
I'm guessing if you do it like a million times, it gets like anything else.
It just becomes whatever.
But, you know, that sounds just like really hot, right?
And especially for you because that's what.
Maybe it's not hot to some people that don't like to be tied up and everything.
But like, you know, to a lot of people, especially somebody like you, that would be like the hottest thing.
So you had like, and she was hot to begin with, right?
Right.
On top of it.
How many more times did you do that whole snake?
You said the first time it was very real.
So let me just ask you this.
Like, did like every night after that were you like, oh my God, she could be here?
Like weren't you a little bit like jumpy like after that?
Like when you slept like did you have any kind of like disrupted sleep the days after that because of like what happened that night at all?
Oh yeah.
There would be times where I would be asleep.
And you know, I live on a high floor.
So obviously other than a fire escape, nobody.
coming through the window, I'd have the window open.
Yeah.
And something of mine would get knocked over because of the wind.
And I jolt out of bed immediately.
Right.
Right.
Because of that.
Yeah, because I once had a boyfriend who was really super jealous and he was like
sleeping in my bushes every night when I would come home to see what I was wearing.
Yeah, he was like crazy.
And then one night I had a new puppy.
And I'm like, I woke up in the middle of the night because I thought the puppy was making noise.
And I look up at my window and there's like a man.
halfway in my window.
You know how like if you're in the window
you're like in an L position right?
Like his head and his torso were in
and he looks up at me and he goes
and it's like my fucking boyfriend.
I think I had broken up with him
and he was just so crazy jealous.
And he was halfway in my foot.
And it was so scary to it.
Like I knew it was him and then I threw him out
and like whatever.
But like I,
it made me really sort of be able to empathize
the people that were like robbed or have
Because it really makes you real.
And like he was,
he was someone I knew.
It didn't go any further than that.
But just that shock of waking up and having that one second of fear of someone being there.
Like I did like,
like it lingered with me.
You know what I mean?
And I felt like this sense of trust like sort of leave me.
And like it did affect me for a while after that.
And like I said,
I felt like,
oh my God,
if that really was something like I could really understand how people that get raped
or these real things happen to them that they don't recover.
and they have serious issues, right, for a long time.
So that's just why I asked whether, like, you had a little bit of that PTSD after
because it is a jolt on some part of you, even if it's for a second, you don't know, right?
Because she really pulled that out from nowhere.
Like, you had no clue.
Right.
Oh, I had no clue.
And she, for someone of, you know, she was 511, I'd say probably about 140 pounds.
She made absolutely no noise.
Right, like to not have any clue that you came home and somebody was in your house, like, I don't know, like that would freak me out.
But listen, I mean, what you got out of it was it would be worth whatever kind of like little trauma you had afterwards, right?
Right.
Right.
Oh, absolutely.
Right.
So how many times after did you do that kind of thing with her?
I'd say probably about seven, if I'm counting right, seven more times.
And was it as good the other times?
Yeah, she actually changed up how she would get me, which I of course have to give all the credit in the world to her because she went completely unnoticed.
I think part of it for her as well.
In the later scenarios was just the fact that there's a potential that she could get caught or that we could get caught.
What do you mean?
We could get caught.
in the sense of I got off work.
I left the office and I'm going to my car
and I'm sitting in my car.
I turn it on and I get ready to start to drive
and then all of a sudden I hear her voice right behind me.
Oh my God, stop! You're like freaking me out.
Like how are you not traumatized by this kind of shit?
Oh, well the first thing is is I slammed on the brakes
and luckily I was not out of the parking lot yet.
This is even worse than the one.
Her being in your car, this is like, this is a little slightly scary.
Yeah.
And she, you know, of course, wanted to have me drive to a neutral place.
So, of course, we...
She had the fake gun against your head as you're driving.
Imagine.
Yeah, it was in my side.
Yeah.
I'd be like calling the cops, like, thinking I'm saving someone's life, you know?
And it's like, meanwhile, I'm just cock blocking your, like, hot experience.
It's about to happen.
You'd be so pissed.
I'm telling you, she was very inventive.
I'm sorry, but like, we might see her on date line.
I mean, this girl, like, what's the difference?
Like, how do you know that, you know, after she does this a million times that she's not going to need to really fucking kill somebody because she's like, she really is at that place?
Like, what's the difference between somebody that does it for real and somebody like her?
Do you know what I mean?
The only difference, right?
Like, if she has any, like, I don't know, if she ever becomes like a bitter person, she might actually.
be like actually killing people.
You know what I mean?
Because the fact that she's so turned on by it is like, you know, I don't know.
It's interesting, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
I just think people are like concoctions, right?
So she has this sort of real intense thing with like murdering, but it's like for fun when
she does it.
But she doesn't like till it's like it's so real and it's like really hot to her that like
if that same person has something that happens to them that makes them sort of like
cut off from their feelings, then what's, what, why wouldn't they go and fucking do that for real?
You know what I mean?
That's like what is happening when people are killing people in those scenarios too.
You know what I mean?
It's just that they're doing it with strangers and they're actually killing them, you know?
She's sort of fulfilling her desire with somebody that she knows, right?
But she is getting turned on by you thinking she's going to kill you and like, you know, she's a little, it's a little fucking weird.
I don't know.
It is.
You know, I mean, she could be scary if she's,
if she didn't have feelings.
I don't know her,
you know,
but.
Right.
I will say that it was almost like it was two totally different people.
Yeah.
Well,
that's what I think that's what,
you know,
rapist family members would say too.
Like,
oh,
he was the nicest guy.
I had no idea.
Like he was a serial killer in a lot of times.
You know?
I was like that because she was always very conscientious and thoughtful.
Uh-huh.
And then what,
and of course thoughtful because she's able to plan out these scenarios and
completely.
catch me off guard.
Well, she happens to be smart.
Okay, she's a smart bitch.
Yeah.
The funny thing is that she has a bachelor's degree in psychology.
Yeah, there you go.
I'm just saying you might see her on dateline 20 years from now and she murder it.
Like she murdered her husband.
You know what I mean?
And you're going to be able to go on and be like, oh my God, like we used to do this.
Like this is like, you know, it's a type of thing that could eventually down the line.
Do you know what happened to her?
Like, have you in touch with her?
Are you still friends with her?
You're not dating her still, right?
Not dating her.
We are still in touch.
And, you know, whenever she tries to discuss kind of her lifestyle with whoever it is that she is dating.
Like she won't go into detail about the, you know, being a rapist sort of thing.
Yeah.
But, you know, she kind of tells them about it.
And sometimes guys are just completely warded off and will not.
Yeah.
You know, we'll not go with it.
Yeah, I get that. I think a lot of guys, some guys would be freaked out, especially if they're like, you know, because like a lot of guys have these things like, you know, if they're looking at her like girlfriend material and they're like, oh, like they can't imagine like a girlfriend. You know, like I sometimes separate like sort of kinky things from like the girl. You know, it's that Madonna Horr complex thing. You know what I mean? And I think that's ridiculous, right? But I think a lot of people fall into that and are just like that for whatever reason, right? So I can see like a guy, right, say,
he really likes her and she, like you said,
she's two different people, you know,
and she's really, like, attractive and she's really thoughtful
and she's really nice and she's got this big brown eyes, right?
And some guys like, wow, I'm bringing her home for Thanksgiving to me,
my family, but beforehand she tells him,
oh, but by the way, I want to, you'd fucking knife you and fuck you at the same time
with a panty hose on my head.
He might be like, let's not a bit, you know,
he might get sick on Thanksgiving and be like, no thanks, you know,
and call it a day.
And you could understand, right?
because they might get a little freaked down.
They might get a little freaked down.
That's why, like, she had really hit the jackpot with you
because it was, like, exactly the thing that you were into, right?
It was, like, really kind of perfect for her and for you.
It was perfect in the sense that, yeah, you know, I like the pantyhose.
I like to be submissive in that aspect.
And, you know, I kind of figured that it was just going to be kind of the, you know,
the dominatrix style thing where she shows.
up and she's wearing that, but it's not, you know, kind of the scenario that she had thought of.
What do you mean?
Kind of when we decided that, you know, this is something that we would do, I thought it was going to be something to the effect of we're both home.
She's, you know, going to go in the bedroom and come out.
You didn't know it was going to be such a mind fuck.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And you didn't like that aspect of it?
or did that make it even better?
Or was that a little part of it that you weren't maybe on the same page?
We weren't necessarily on the same page.
Kind of like we had discussed with the initial jolt.
The initial jolt of it, you know, of course my heart about explodes out of my chest.
Yeah.
And then I realize, you know, the thing is, is I look up and she had a tattoo of a robin on her hip bone.
Uh-huh.
And of course, right in, you know, with the body stocking, I can see that.
Right. So you knew it was her. Right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And like I said, the second time that she did it, she was in the backseat of my car.
Yeah. Which is so funny because ever since then, I've started locking my car again.
That's what I mean. It does traumatize you a little bit. Right. Yeah. And she has me drive, of course, to a neutral location. We go to a whole place.
hotel. We go to the same hotel
where we first stayed together at
and
talk about genius.
It's kind of a mad scientist sort of thing
I guess. Yeah.
Because we get out of the
car and she tells me, you know,
not to look at her.
She's going to be to the side of me, but
don't look at me. Okay. Did you have
you looked at her in the car? Like, did you know
what she was dressed up in or any of that stuff?
Like, was she in her panty hose outfit
or what was going on? Did you
had looked at her yet?
She was in the outfit, I mean, but she had actually a long coat over it.
This was at the end of November.
Right, right, right.
Okay.
So she's wearing a long coat.
That's what you saw in the car, but when you get out, she says, don't look at me.
She says, don't look at me.
Okay.
The reason that she said, don't look at me is because when she initially sprung it on me,
she was wearing her mask.
Mm-hmm.
When we get out of the car, she had actually.
pulled it back and it looked
just like a hair tie.
Right.
Yeah.
And we go and check in
and the whole time that we're checking in,
she's kind of behind me a little bit,
kind of poking me in the side
with the toy gun.
Oh my God.
This girl is definitely going to kill someone.
I hope you let her listen to this podcast.
And then maybe I could have her on
and she could really explain.
I need to find out whether she's a real
fucking serial killer or something.
I don't know.
I'm on the,
I'm on the feds.
So she's poking you with the gun.
Right.
And I check, we check in, go into the elevator, and there's another couple.
It's actually an elderly couple that's there.
Oh, my goodness.
And I'm kind of standing there because, you know, my entire life has been, you know,
at least from my parents has always been, you know, manners and all of that.
Yeah.
Next thing you know, it's, you know, I'm saying, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, yes, sir.
and she's jabbing me the whole time kind of in the side like don't say anything right um and as soon as we
get to the room she kind of leads me in closes the door pulls the mask back down and has the
the purse that she was carrying um and this time she's got velvet rope and same thing happens again um she
was a little more rough this time.
And I think this might go hand-in-hand with your serial killer theory.
Yeah.
Because she had her hand on my throat, which was not something that I anticipated.
And it wasn't bad, but it wasn't something where I was like, oh, my God, that's hot.
Right, right.
It wasn't something that you were into.
But she, and how far did she take that throat thing?
Did you have to say, like that hurts or stop?
Or did she know when to let go?
did she sort of hold you for a long time, like right before death?
No, she knew when to let go.
Okay.
I would kind of, you know, kind of move my head from side to side.
And that was kind of the signal to let go.
She would let go.
Right.
But everything that she did wasn't just about pain and the entire scenario.
Yeah.
It was very sensual.
It was very teased out.
Right.
She was like teasing you and stuff.
but that's really hot, right?
Right.
And that is a little bit of being a submissive, right, and her being the dominant.
I mean, that's what the dominant is into, right?
Sort of like making you wish you could come, but not letting you come, right?
That's a part of the whole control thing.
Right, and that was also part of the scenario as well as she would do, and I think I'm using the right term, edging.
I don't know what that mean.
What is edging?
Edging is when you are letting someone get to the point to where they're about,
about to come.
Mm-hmm.
And just as that moment happens, you stop.
Right, right, right.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that's hot to do to somebody.
And she did it to perfection and was just, like I said, with the teasing, there was a
line, especially with her having long legs.
She's walking, you know, walking around the room, kind of sauntering around, taunting me
the entire time.
Mm-hmm.
You know, asking me, what was that?
She said, oh, she asked me, you know, what's it like to know?
that you're completely powerless right now.
Right.
And you know, like I said, it was things like that where it's like she's always on my shoulder.
Mm-hmm.
And even when she's not speaking, I'm hearing just give up.
Right.
And I would never give up.
Well, she wanted you to kind of not give up because she likes that fight in you, right?
Right.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, like I said, with it being a little bit rougher, there was a hand around the throat.
And then it went from just an open hand palm slap to I got backhanded a couple times.
In the face?
Yeah.
Okay.
Did you like that?
I mean, you're submissive, right?
Like in hardcore BDSM, that goes down and people are into that, right?
Yeah.
And I did.
It was one of those things to where,
you know, she was establishing dominance whenever I would try and fight out of it or I'd smart off to her,
things like that.
Right.
Okay.
It was just, you know, it was one of those things to where when she had the control, she was the Michael Jordan of having control.
Right.
Totally.
And like I said, with it being very sensual as well, it was just, you know, the perfect storm for me.
Mm-hmm.
So that was the second.
very hot experience.
Right.
Okay.
I mean, imagine though, like, I don't know.
Like, imagine somebody did sort of see, you know what I mean?
Imagine somebody, I mean, I'm assuming you guys never got caught in any of these scenarios.
But like, you know, if I was behind you while you guys were checking into the hotel, I'm like an observer.
Like, I might have seen the thing.
Like, imagine you guys get caught and taken down to the police like into the story that they would ever.
You guys would be like, no, this is like our thing.
Like she likes to be the robber.
And I'm like the guy that's a toy gun and like, oh, they would have such a field day going
home to their families and telling them.
Like you wouldn't believe who we busted today at the fucking hotel.
But I'm sure like cops and people have stories like that, right?
Because this is shit that people do.
Like you're calling me up and telling me about it.
And you're just some young kid that calls me ma'am out in the middle of nowhere, right?
And she's some hot girl that does this.
So there's probably so many other people that do it.
So someone has had to have a got.
had to have gotten caught, you know, and somebody had that story.
I just think it's kind of funny that it,
you think you're sort of saving somebody from being killed.
And it's like, like I said, in the meantime,
you just like sort of, you know,
ruined somebody's best night ever.
Right?
You kind of cock walking.
Yeah, totally.
So that was that experience.
What else did this crazy bitch do to you?
Um,
for the most part,
that's kind of where,
um,
it began and ended.
Those two times?
Or like that kind of stuff?
It was that kind of stuff.
Because I think the thing for her, and her and I actually had rather intense conversations about the whole scenario.
Right.
And I asked her, I said, you know, why does this do it for you?
Yeah.
As far as, you know, wearing panty hose and the mask and all that.
Yeah.
And she was like, well, you know, ever since I was, you know, a teenager, panty hose were always a turn on for her.
Mm-hmm.
And next thing you know, she said, you know, I was, I think she said 17 or 18.
She was at home.
She had on a pair of panty hose.
And she was, you know, wondering what it would be like if she put them on her face, what it would feel like.
Mm-hmm.
And she did.
And she said that that, you know, it did it for.
Yeah.
And I asked her why it did it for her in this particular scenario.
And of course, this is her psychology degree coming out.
She goes, it's duality.
She goes out there in the world, I can be one person.
And here with you, I put that mask on.
I feel powerful.
I feel sexy.
You know, that was her thing.
Right.
And she could be somebody else, somebody that she wants to be.
or just get into that role.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
But what about the gun and like the, like the sneaking around and the, you know,
is that just the control aspect of it or like what is that about?
Did you ask her?
Yeah.
The control aspect about it for the sneaking around part,
she always thought it was just sexy at the fact that, you know,
she's in my home, you know, kind of skulking around the house.
you know, dressed like this and I could come out of the bedroom at any time and find her.
Right. Okay. So it was her like almost being caught? Right. And then the gun aspect, I was like, you know, you could really just jump on me and I wouldn't fight that hard. Right. And she said it's the control aspect. She goes, it doesn't make sense. She was like, you know, you're twice as strong as I am, twice my size.
She's like annual you know you'd overpower me pretty quick.
She goes, you know, follow it through the conclusion.
How can I make you do something I want you to do?
Unless I have a gun.
Exactly.
So that makes it more realistic to her kind of.
Like she feels like the only way to overpower a man because she's a woman is like to have the extra thing, which would be the gun.
Right.
That can make sense.
She was, you know, like I said, the, the, the,
thing that, you know, kind of got me with it was just that she was dedicated to it.
Yeah.
But it wouldn't, and I know this sounds odd, but it didn't, like, dominate her life.
No, I don't think it sounds odd.
A lot of times these kinds of things, because I have a lot of people call into my show and
they have these things going on, right?
But they have these all, like, it's like, like, to me, everyone's life is like a pizza pie,
right?
And they have, like, different slices, right?
And it's like, sometimes it's like one thing is one small slice.
some things are bigger slices, but most of the time, like these things that people do sexually
or these fetishes or whatever, it's just like one small slice.
There's all other things going on.
They have full lives that, you know, their mothers or fathers and sisters, brothers,
they, you know, they own companies.
They, you know, they have jobs, they have friends.
They have full lives doing many other things.
And this is just like what they like to do every now and then at night, you know,
with somebody that they're begging, you know?
Right.
Absolutely.
the thing that always kind of got me with it is like her parents and her sister and I all did a, you know, kind of like a family photo shoot kind of thing because I was with her for a few years.
Uh-huh.
And next thing, you know, you know, I'm looking at these pictures and I'm thinking while I'm there the whole time, you know, her parents, her parents have this thought of this sweet girl, which she absolutely was.
Yeah.
But part of me is like just
You know I'm thinking in my head
Hey just so you know your daughter your beautiful daughter
Likes to wear panty hose all over her body
And fuck me until I beg her to stop
Yeah and you're like in me the sweet guy
That you think is dating your sweet daughter
I like to get punched in the face
And tied up
And you have your daughter sitting at my face
Smothering me
Right
You know I mean that's the whole
That's the whole point of my show
that I always look because sometimes I think I ask weird questions but it's because like my mind thinks
about those moments like those like picture moments where everyone sort of acting as if they're one
thing but all this other stuff is going on and you just never know and you know it's and it's just
the regular people in those photos you know like the shit that I've heard on my show is crazy
and then you just think about all the people that don't call in it's just like a lot of people
are doing like really interesting things I won't say weird because that's making it seem like it's
wrong, right? That's like a bad kind of
because it's not wrong what you guys did.
That's why it was like so perfect between you guys
because this is like what she was into and it was
what you were into and you guys had a real
relationship. You were in love and all these, you know,
and this is just something that you did for fun
intimately with each other and that's great
because it probably added to your sex life, right?
I'm surprised. Like, why did you guys break up?
Because she really was a good match for you sexually
speaking. We fell
apart mostly
for the fact that I did like to spend time with my family.
And she did hers.
And I had a ton of other activities like I coach sports, three different sports.
And, you know, she was wanting more of my time.
And that has essentially become a career.
What, the coaching for you?
Yes.
Okay.
How old are you now?
I'm 31.
Okay.
So you dated, so you guys broke up, but not too long ago.
No, I would say I was actually 30 when we broke up.
Right, so only about a year ago.
That's why you guys are still in touch.
Okay, and you dated for a couple of years.
And so she eventually wanted, like, you're dating for three years and did you like start,
because was it like you, these like coaching scenarios came up later in the relationship?
So she was getting less time with you as opposed to more?
Or was it?
Or did she want more?
and it was usual.
Like, is that what happened?
Like, you started doing other things and giving her last time?
Yeah.
Because what happened is I eventually got a coaching job out of state.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's tough.
And it wasn't as though we fell apart and there was, you know,
yelling and screaming or anything like that.
And I'll be perfectly honest.
And it's not just for the sex and the crazy panty hose rape thing.
But, you know, I loved her.
Yeah.
And, you know, I took the coaching job.
And, you know, that is my career now.
Right.
It must have been a hard choice because you want both things, right?
Why can't you have them both?
But she couldn't find it in her to sort of stick through it.
Like, I mean, because, like, did you move out of state eventually for the gig?
Or did you just have to travel a lot for it?
actually both I moved I had to move out of state
and then I also travel a lot for it
right so she didn't want to move it got to the point where it was like
her life was going to have to follow yours more so right
and she wasn't willing to give up what she had either
right
and you know the the thing was is I kind of had the
you know other fantasy of
being a being a coach at the
the top level yeah and
her and her writing with me the whole way. Yeah. That was, you know, what I had in mind. And, you know,
I'm not ashamed to admit it as a man when it was over. You know, I walked away. I cried.
Of course. I mean, you were with her for many years. You were in love. Like, and that's like,
and the hard thing is, like you said, it wasn't like you guys were fighting all the time and the
relationship was terrible. Like, I mean, those are, that's the hardest way to break up with someone
that you're still in love with and everything is right.
It was just like logistics or these things that don't have to do with the two of you, right?
It's sort of stuff that's outside the relationship.
But a lot of times that does break people up.
And that's like that sad because like we all know, right?
I mean, you were 26 when you met her.
But like I'll tell you like, you know, 10 years could go by and you might not meet somebody
that is like as good.
Right.
Like I mean, it's hard to find the right person, right?
It's not like someone comes around all the time.
Um, so, you know, it's, it's, uh, that's a hard thing to have happened, to lose somebody that you were super incompatible with.
Right. Um, I think the, the thing that was kind of hard for me is when, um, I had a game and we came back.
I came back, I came back to the state where she lives. Um, and when I get off the bus, there she is.
And with a gun, ready to kill you now.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ready to rape you?
Right.
What do you mean?
Like there to say hi?
Like, what do you mean?
When you were broken up or?
Yeah, we had been broken up for a little while.
And our season had started.
And I coach football.
Yeah.
Our season had started.
And we come back to, she lives in Indiana.
And I get off the bus.
And there she is.
is. I mean, and I still remember those eyes, you know, of course not with a stop hanging out of
face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those brown eyes. Right. And I get off the bus and I mean, she just takes my
breath away all over again. Right. And what and and how long ago was that? I would say that was within,
well, that was last football season. So last October. And did you guys like have sex again? I mean,
Because sometimes, like, people go back and they fool around, but then they don't really go back.
Yeah, it happened again.
Yeah.
So you guys fooled around.
Like, after that, like, did you kind of got physical again with each other, but then didn't work out to become a relationship again?
I tried again to say, hey, you know, come with me.
I have my own place.
You don't have to work.
Yeah, and obviously she was waiting there for you because some part of her maybe wanted to give it another shot, right?
She was there.
Right.
And then you guys started up again.
And why did it?
And what was it that she still just didn't want to go?
Yeah.
She didn't want to go.
I think it's kind of the family issue for her.
Is that if she goes, you know, her family is going to be left back here.
And she's always been kind of, oddly enough, the leader of her family.
Right.
So it's, yeah.
So it's kind of one of those things where.
You know, she is kind of the leader of her family, make sure everyone, you know, is on point,
make sure that everything's okay with their parents.
And then from that point, it's just...
That's a weird dynamic to have.
I feel sorry for her a little bit because it's not like the natural sort of way of things.
Do you know what I mean?
For the child to be taking care of the parent, that's a big burden to put on somebody.
No wonder why when she's in control, she carries a gun.
wants to fucking beat someone up.
It's like she's like really beating
up her parents like
fuck you for making me in control.
I mean like that's sad right
that like you know because it really should be the other way around
right like she shouldn't be sort of
like the matriarch of her family as a child
you know she's the daughter.
Right.
And to have that guilt and then to have a guy that she's
in love with I mean who what family
wouldn't care for a child to go
be with the man that they love like you know
it's like to give that her life up for her family's life.
Like her parents already married.
Like you know what I mean?
Like this is for her life.
It's like to give that up for her family.
It's kind of a dumb move.
Yeah.
And the thing is her and I talk almost on a weekly basis.
Mm-hmm.
And it's one of those,
it's one of those things to where if she,
you know,
meets a guy and likes him,
she does bring it to me.
Yeah.
in the sense that she has the thought that this could never happen.
This meaning, that's okay.
This meaning you and her?
Yes.
Right.
So she tells you about other guys because she doesn't think you guys are going to be together
anymore.
You guys are trying to be friends.
Right.
And then like I said, I go to, you know, come back home to the state of Indiana.
And as soon as I get off the bus, like I said, there she was.
And it just brought all those feelings back again.
And it hit me hard.
I mean, it was one of those things to where I, you know, I got off the bus and she took my breath away.
And then I kind of just after the fact I folded to her because her and I had made, you know,
a promise that we weren't going to go back and do the same stuff that we used to do.
Yeah, but like that's a real life.
Like you do, right?
Like you could say all you wrong, but your feelings take over and, you know, real life is messy.
know, that's what, that's how it goes.
You see her, you can't, no matter what you guys said logically, it doesn't matter anymore
because now when you see her, like you really want her and then she wants you and then
you hope for the best and then it still doesn't work out.
But that's just how it normally goes.
It's not like a lot of times, especially when you've been with someone for a long time,
there's a back and forth sometimes.
It doesn't just end one time.
You know, maybe, listen, maybe you guys would get together five years from now if like
she never meets someone and I don't know who knows what's going to happen with that family of hers.
I mean, she needs to cut the cord.
I don't know enough about it, the situation, but like, you know, I don't understand why she can't be with you,
why she's choosing her family over you, you know, because you could be her family.
She could have kids with you.
You know, she'd make her own family.
Right.
You know.
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Yeah, it's weird.
Maybe, I mean, you probably won't let her listen to this podcast and stuff, but, you know,
I wish she'd call into my show.
I could get you guys back together.
If that happened, that'd be fantastic.
You still like her?
Have you met any girls since her that you've been with?
Yeah.
I've met a couple since her.
And it's kind of funny because they noticed my fetish as well.
Just in the sense that we go out on a couple dates and I hang out with them.
And then she comes over in a dress.
and black panty hose and I just, you know, I kind of sit there and you can tell that I get nervous.
Right.
And they could maybe tell that there's like some weird odd focus on the hose, the panty hose.
Right.
Okay.
Right.
And then actually one of them noticed it and then started like kind of playing with her shoe.
Mm-hmm.
And like I just looked down her whole leg and back and I'm just like, as soon as I did it, I, and I looked at her face.
I was like, she knew she got me.
Right, she knew what was going on and she knew how to play you.
And she was into it, why not?
It's such an easy thing if a guy's into pantyose.
You could just like, you know, it's like an easy kind of way to get a guy turned on.
It's not that hard.
For a girl, it's not a lot of work.
And the thing that's funny is, you know, she asked me before what I had done with other people.
You know, we've had that conversation.
and this relationship is fairly recent.
Okay. Do you like this girl, you think?
I do. Just not as
not as much as the first one.
Well, you can't. You're with the first one for three years.
It's going to take a long time before you feel the same.
Like you have to give someone else a chance before you start feeling the depth that you felt with the other girl
because you were with her for so long, right?
This girl, this new girl, how long you've been dating her for?
Five, six months.
Yeah, that's not enough time.
But anyway, so when she asked you like what other stuff that you've done, did you cop to this scenario that you just told me?
I told part of it.
Right.
You kept out like the crazy stuff?
Right.
I kept out all the crazy stuff.
You know, I told her the body stocking and, you know, gloves doesn't have to be the latex gloves actually looking like you're going to kill someone.
Yeah, yeah, the gun and all that stuff.
right um and you know she went with it as well she what that the girl went with it or this girl said oh i'm into
that too and she did it as well is that what you're saying what do you mean she was fine with the outfit
and you know having sex while she's wearing the outfit oh this girl did it too for you that was what
you're saying yeah she just wouldn't wear she just wouldn't wear the stocking on her face right okay so that
was so and was it cool oh it was fantastic yeah that's great that she's great that she
got into it. And she would, did it seem like it turned her on? Like, did you feel like she was doing it just for you? Or did you feel like when she put that on that she was kind of into it and she liked it as well? Um, I think once she put it on, um, because a thing for her was for me to watch her put it on. Right. Um, so I did. And when once she got the body stocking, the heels and the gloves on, she, you know, looked at herself in the mirror and was like, holy shit, I look hot. Right. And that made her feel good. And that made her feel good.
right and turned her on.
Right.
And then she came right back, you know, with it to me.
And it was definitely not as hardcore a scenario.
Right.
There was no tying up, no real beating or anything like that.
It was just really rough sex.
Right.
But maybe you could get her to do a little bit more hardcore stuff down the line, right?
You don't know.
Right.
You got to ease her into that.
Right.
Absolutely.
Does the other girl, the old girl, you know, the gun,
girl. Does she know about this girl?
She does.
And how does she feel about it?
I really haven't
gauged her feelings on it.
I can definitely say
I don't
mention the current girlfriend
often when we do talk.
And I don't
mention to the current girlfriend
that I talk to the old one.
Right, right.
And I should
because I have that right and wrong battle going on in my head.
Right, like you feel like, right.
Now, are you, this new girl, does she know, like, is she your girlfriend?
Like, are you guys serious with each other?
Or is it like something that hasn't been defined yet?
It hasn't really been defined.
Right.
Well, right.
So then it's like maybe before you get it defined, you let it know.
But I think the thing with, you know, like right now, the reason why that other girl is close to you
is because probably a part of the closeness is.
that you still have feelings for her, right?
And what would probably happen, most likely,
once, if you stayed with this new girl
and you kept going a year and a half from now,
you're going to like her more
and you're going to cross a line with the new girl
where she really fulfills you
and you start to feel that seriousness
that you did with the other girl,
and you're going to not need that other girl as much.
Do you know what I mean?
And not saying that you're not going to be friends with her at all,
but maybe not as much and you know and this girl will take that place and so she doesn't really need to know you know what I mean because you wouldn't be that's the natural thing right and if it and that's why people have a problem if like their guy or their girl is like best friends with somebody else because they shouldn't be once you're like really serious not to say like I'm friends with all my exes it's not to say that someone can't have other friends and stuff but probably as close as you are with this girl wouldn't people
be cool with the new one, right?
Because the part of the
closeness is because you're still fucking in love with her.
I know that because you're admitting it to me.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes. So that's why she wouldn't like it.
So I wouldn't tell her, you know?
And I think if you start to get really serious
about this new girl, that wouldn't be as serious
anyway. So it would be okay for you to tell her
because it wouldn't be about your feelings for her.
You know, it would just be a friendship.
You understand what I'm saying?
Absolutely.
So don't need to make any decisions on you.
you know, opening your mouth about that right now.
Let's see how you feel.
I definitely will not.
No, don't.
But don't lie.
Like I'm, like I said, like, I mean, you have to, you know, you got a, it's good
that you're taking it slow.
You've been with her six months and you still guys still haven't defined it.
But it sounds like you like her.
And it sounds like she's open to stuff that you're into, right?
So I think it's a good thing.
Oh, yeah.
I'll say she, she's definitely very open.
You know, she asked me, you know, is there anything else?
Is there anything else in that in that department?
Yeah, that's good.
That means she won't mind slapping you around a little bit more probably down the line.
Right.
Right.
No, that's good because that's what you're into.
And the thing that was, you know, that kind of got me is when I said to her, I go, you know, I did find it incredibly sexy when she wore the stocking as a mask.
Right.
Just for the fact, like I said, apparently she found the right size and pulled her hair through the back of it.
Yeah, yeah, like you said it didn't make her look like gross.
It still looked like her face with that ponytail and stuff.
Did you tell her that?
And what did she say to that?
And she actually tried it and she's like, okay, this isn't too bad.
At first it was a complete no.
Right, right.
Yeah, this girl sounds cool.
Like she's open to things, which is good.
Right.
And she doesn't look at you like what the fuck, right?
Just like your poor girlfriend, you know, your ex, when she tells guys,
they're like, you know, run for the hells.
Right.
Because I'm I can go either the the hardcore way or you know, I can be lighter and I have no problem with either one.
Right.
But it's sad for you.
Like I just feel like women are more accepting of like if they like a guy.
I think women are more accepting of things that come up with a guy.
Whereas men aren't so much.
So I feel sorry for your girlfriend, you know, the gun girl because she, it would be harder for her to have a guy sort of be okay with.
it if he's not okay with it whereas you could meet a girl right and she's not into it at all but
because she really likes you she'll give it a try right guys typically aren't that way like oh i like you
so much i'll give it a try like you know what i mean yeah they're just flat out deny it yeah they're just
like no fucking way or yeah i'm into it you know but a lot of times so i think it's like easier for you to
get you know it sounds normal that she would because she must like you right so she's open to
She wants to make you happy, you know,
it's just a different sort of thing with guys.
So that poor girl is going to find it harder to find somebody that's on her same page.
It's a little bit easier for you.
But, you know,
that's her loss because she can't leave her fucking mommy and daddy for you,
which is,
this is ridiculous.
She just,
you know,
I don't know,
maybe she's going to have to kill them.
I'm just joking.
I certainly hope not.
Listen,
if they ever die through suspicious things,
or even if they die through something that seems normal,
I would look into it because I don't know.
I still don't know about that girl.
I was like his next thing, you know, you're going to hear that I go missing.
Yeah, no, I don't know about you.
I think it's going to be her family if she ever finds out that you're with somebody else.
You know, I don't know.
It would make a great dateline episode.
It really would.
Yeah, this goes down that path.
But, you know, anyway, it was fascinating to me.
Like, I've never heard anything like that.
That girl is very interesting, your last girlfriend.
I like her. I mean, she's smart and she's creative and she might be a little twisted.
And I don't know if it's more interesting if she really does kill someone one day or more interesting that she does that.
But does it want to kill someone? I don't know. I'm on the fence.
I'll say her whole thing was just that she liked the control aspect of it and, you know, like I said, the panty hose and especially the stocking on her face.
I know, but that's what serial killers say too. So you know what I mean?
It is. That's their thing too.
So, you know, keep in touch with me and let me know if anyone in her circle dies anytime soon and we'll look into it on the show.
Yes, ma'am.
We'll do our own secret investigation.
That works for me.
All right.
What was your name again?
What do we call you?
I don't even care about your fucking name of your story was so good.
Kane.
Yeah, Kane.
Yes.
Yeah, that doesn't even go with anything that you told me.
But because the story was so good.
But anyway, Keane, thank you so much for calling me in and telling us the story, telling everybody the story.
fascinating. Thank you so much for having me.
Awesome. Keep me posted. Like I said, if anyone dies in time soon.
Oh, absolutely. That keep me posted about your new relationship. Okay, good luck with everything.
Thank you so much. You're welcome. Bye.
Bye-bye.
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