Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 459 - Timothy is a Jehovah's Witness Who Is Cheating on his Wife with a Couple

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

Timothy is a Jehovah witness who is cheating on his wife with a couple and he calls in to talk all about it. How long has he been married and when did he start hooking up with the couple? How did he m...eet them? Was this his first hook up with a couple?? Tune in for all the details including the rules and regulations he faces as a Jehovah Witness and how they led to the demise of him and his wife sex life, including no porn and no masturbation, how wrestling with his male friend as a teenager led to his first experiences with a guy, the first couple who seduced him early on who were also Jehovah witness and what he used to do with them, where he met the recent couple he has been hooking up with, what they look like, what they’re into and what exactly goes down when they all meet up, his chronic masturbation issues and how his cheating has been beneficial not only to him but also to his marriage, what he’s currently doing to work on his marriage and fix their issues, info on best places online to get the truth on the Jehovah witness religion and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of Jessie and most of my other guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the strictly anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you have a secret don't have a problem or if you have a problem and you want to talk about it, you know, like relationship, sex love problem. I love picking that stuff apart, talking to people, giving them my unprofessional advice. You can be on the show. Send me an email strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymouspodcast.com and click on be on the show. Or call my advice hotline. 347, 4203579. That's 347, 4203579. That number is in the description. If you want to call in and just leave a naughty confession, you could do that there.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I change your voice. So you remain anonymous there as well. Let me tell you, the guy Timothy, who I have on today, he left a confession. and I was like, when I heard that confession, I'm like, okay, this is a great confession, but I want to hear the whole effing story. Okay. Timothy is Jehovah witness, Jehovah's Witness. I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, am I saying it, right?
Starting point is 00:01:41 So Jehovah's Witness. And, you know, so he gives that whole backstory. He's married now to a wife. They have like serious issues when it comes to their intimate life together. So eventually, recently, he started seeing a couple. Now, this is not the first time he has hooked up with a couple. He hooked up with a couple when he was very young before he even got married. He talks about that situation.
Starting point is 00:02:09 He talks about hooking up with his friend when he was younger because he happens to be bisexual. The couple that he's hooking up with now, the guy is bisexual. That's exactly what he was looking for. That's exactly what he got and he's having the best time. And he's here to say that that cheating scenario that he was set up for himself where this couple has actually helped his marriage, which wasn't so great. I mean, he's in love with his wife. What wasn't great was like their sex life, and it's only improved since he's been seeing this couple.
Starting point is 00:02:34 But we get the backstory on everything. The Jehovah Witness program, religion, whatever you want to call it, it's fascinating. Okay, wait until you hear him tell you how the fuck it operates, okay? Because it is crazy, interesting. I'm always interesting. I hope we didn't talk too much about it. But we talk about that. Like I said, we talk about the stuff that he did sexually growing up.
Starting point is 00:02:57 We talk about the issues that his wife. has because of growing up as a Jehovah's Witness and some stuff that went down with her when she was younger that affects her life as well. But also, like I said, we talk about that couple, what he does with them. There's lots stories in here. This episode has it all. Okay. So I'm just going to get to it and be right back on with Timothy. Hi, Timothy. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. So Timothy, refresh my memory and tell me what you're calling in about.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Give me like the tagline or like, you know, the summary and then we'll go into details. I mean, you are married. You have a non-monogamous relationship with your wife, but you also do stuff on the side. Is that correct? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But like the stuff on the side that you do, let me ask you this real quick, is that stuff that she doesn't know about or Oh, she knows nothing about it. Yeah, no. Yeah, so this is where I'm confused and this is where you're going to have to start talking and I'm going to take a back seat. It's like, you have an open relationship, right? Is that true? No, I, I'm dyslexic. I'm, I'm in a monogamous relationship with my wife. Oh, sorry. Oh,
Starting point is 00:04:15 sorry. Yes, that's my, that is my bad. I made that mistake. Yeah, because you gave me a little skinny beforehand. Okay, wait. So you're in a monogamous relationship with your wife and you're seeing a couple on the side. So you're a cheater. Okay. You're cheating, but not just like with random women, with a couple, which I haven't heard that story before. So tell me about your marriage, how long you been married, how old you are, your wife, and then tell me how it came to be that you wound up like having this relationship with a couple on the side. Sure, sure. So I'm in my mid-30s. My wife is also in her mid-30s. I've been married for, I'll say, I don't, want to give the exact date, but less than 20 years, more than 15. How about that?
Starting point is 00:05:02 That's a long time. I mean, so you guys got married from the get-go. Yeah, yeah. We got married not long after. I'd say within a year of us meeting, we got married. But I mean, you were really young, is what I'm saying. You were like 17. Yeah, yes. I mean, like crazy young. Yeah, I was young. I was way too young, way too stupid to put a little bit of perspective on it. I hope some of your viewers are Jehovah's Witnesses because I am. And that puts a lot of perspective. That, yeah, that puts a lot of perspective into it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We get married really early because unless you're just really good at like not masturbating and, you know, not fooling around. You get married just because you can't stand to not have sex. And so we got married. We had kids early. Not long after we, I mean, within three years, we already had one kid. and it's now up to three. So it's been a busy existence since we got married. And honestly, I love my wife.
Starting point is 00:06:03 She's a great lady, great mom. The issue with the witness religion is it breeds narcissists. Oh, really? Yes, it is absolutely a breeding ground for a narcissist people. It's very authoritarian. Women are not allowed to, you know, make most of the decisions about themselves. the religion makes the religion they make decisions about how you can procreate how how you can use birth control no abortion stuff like that it's it's very oppressive and they just they like to know everything about
Starting point is 00:06:40 your personal business and yes then they use that then they use that information against you to basically i would call it religious cuck i mean they religiously tuck you into like like staying in by making you miserable. Explain that. Like, give me an example of that. Okay. So what they do is, let's say, for instance, let's just use my example. So let's say it comes out that I cheated and that I've done bad things.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So what would happen is a tribunal of three men at my congregation would come together. And they would say, okay, here's the allegations against you. What do you say for yourself? and I can say, well, I totally agree, yeah, I messed up. And then they do something called just fellowshiping. Now, what that does is that you get cut off from your family. Your immediate family, like my wife and my kids, assuming that my wife would stay with me, I could still talk to them.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But anybody else in the congregation, you can't talk to you. They shoot you like you're dead. Wow. And so it literally, they say it's a loving arrangement. they say it's a loving thing, but in reality, it's, it's, it's a, it's a terrible, brutal thing. That's honestly caused people to kill themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I heard, I heard, I've heard from people in Jehovah Witness.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's similar also maybe in the Mormon community too, because they have similar kinds of stuff going down. And I've heard that as well there. They do. They do. Absolutely. It's, uh, there, it's a different, I'd say it's a different, for Ibert, but it's the same coat. I mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. It really is. So getting back to what I was saying, why it's a great lady, you got great kids, but she's very controlling in the bedroom. She basically, about five years in, I quit initiating sex because the answer was always no. It was always no. And then when she wanted to have sex, I had to be ready to go. And if I, let's say if it was three in the morning and she wakes me up. up because she's been up all night, you know, I need to be ready to go. And it was just, it's been hard.
Starting point is 00:08:59 It's been hard on me to enjoy sex. And it's just, it's not been fun. And I've asked, I've tried to say, hey, look, I would appreciate it. If we could do this differently, I would, she actually even gets irritated with me that I don't initiate. And I said, well, start telling me yes more often. And I'll initiate more often. Oh, because you even stopped initiating. I mean, it's been that long. But we still have sex. but it's just on her terms. Right. You know.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And so it's just, it's just war on me over the years. And so getting back to the religious thing, you're also not allowed to, you're told that you're not allowed to masturbate. It's actually labeled self-abuse. Wow. Is it how they, it's how they label it. And so you're basically told that you're not, you're not allowed to touch your no-no parts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And to relieve yourself of these terrible things, you know, terrible feelings that you have because you're a terrible person. If you have these feelings, you should just pray and then everything will be fine. Oh, my goodness. And so it creates, it creates a lot of sexual frustrated people.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And I promise you, I am just one of, I'm going to say millions of men around the country that are dealing with this. And maybe not exactly my same situation, but definitely shame around sex. I was going to say, yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:16 shame would be the correct word because I'm sure many Jehovah Witness, men and women do masturbate, wind up masturbating, because sometimes that urge is going to be there, right? I don't know. And imagine how you feel, or did you never, or do most people not? I don't know. You tell me. I'm going to say most people do.
Starting point is 00:10:33 The reason that I say that is because there's people that are, like, within the congregation, like, they have their responsibilities removed for no reason, whether that's, like, holding a microphone or, you know, doing literature counters or whatever. and they'll just suddenly stop doing it and they can't comment, they can't give talks. It turns out that they might confess to you and says, well, yeah, my wife called me masturbating and I had to talk to the elders about it and now I don't have any privileges. And so it's a very shameful thing. Yeah. And so that over, you know, a 30 plus year of being part of the organization, it just really
Starting point is 00:11:11 fucks with your mind. Of course. It's with you. And so. I'm sorry. even if you like, you know, only had it for 15 years. You're, this is getting shoved in your brain,
Starting point is 00:11:23 your little brain from like the get go, right? And in your formative years. So you're fucked. I mean, that's like embedded in you. I mean, it's, that's hardcore,
Starting point is 00:11:32 you know, programming of, so it doesn't matter that 30 years, the first five years of them, telling you the shit, it's going to stick with you. It's going to be hard to undo that kind of. thing, you know, programming, whatever I want to call it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And pornography is a no-no. Of course. And that will really get you in trouble. And so not only do you have urges, not only are you not allowed to relieve those urges, but if you want to explore what it means to have urges, you can't do that either. And so they're constantly having talks from the pulpit or at these big conventions. or assemblies that we have basically just it's the same thing you know it's bad it's from the devil it's you know it's going to draw you it's going to draw you away from jehovah and it's just terrible and
Starting point is 00:12:27 and it's just it's a it's a bad deal i've also had really interesting sexual experiences within what i'm going to call the jehovah's witness is the organization because that's how that's the nomenclature so within within the organization i've had a male friend when i was a teenager he and I messed around some, not a lot, just fondling, jerking off, stuff like that. Nothing too crazy. And then I also had a couple that were witnesses whenever I was a teenager that kind of set up a thing between the two of them got me involved. And I had maybe a three-month fling with them. Is that the couple that you were talking about?
Starting point is 00:13:11 No, this is a, that was a good. Okay, so yeah, let's go slowly because I'm just fascinated with everything you're telling me. Okay, this couple, what the fuck do you mean? Then how old are you when you meet this other couple? I mean, I'm assuming you're not married yet and you must be young. Like, what's going on? I'm not married. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:27 How old are you at this point? I'm 18 to 19. Okay, so 18, you meet a couple within the organization. Is that what you're calling it, the organization? What is the name? Yes. Yes. And I've known them for many years by this point.
Starting point is 00:13:41 They've known me from whenever I was a teenager. Yeah. And so basically he goes on a trip for work and asks if I would take his wife to a dinner. And I said, sure, not a problem. And I take him his wife to dinner on the way back home. When I'm taking her home, she goes, hey, will you stop? I want to go look at some, I want to go look at some land over here. So we pull off to the side and she jumps my bones. And I'm freaking out at this point going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, push on the brakes because this is like, classic. It's the oldest J.W. story in the world. A dude has the fling with another guy's wife whenever he's a young guy and he ended up his fellowship and it just ruins
Starting point is 00:14:24 everybody's day. So I'm immediately freaking out and going, no, this is not okay. And she goes, no. I'm going to call him Jerry. Jerry said it was fine. And Jerry set this up. The little cuck. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:39 How old are they? Sorry, how old are they? So they were they were in their mid 40s by this point. Okay. So she says, go back to story. So she's like pushing herself on you. You're saying no way. And she's just like, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:14:53 He's down. He's down. Yeah. He's cool with it. So they've clearly been thinking about this for a while. And so we do it. And it was really interesting because he liked to watch. He didn't like to participate.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah. And so, and I thought that was kind of neat. Mm-hmm. not long, not long after that, they end up getting divorced for completely different reasons. Yeah. And he moves away, she moves away, gets remarried. And we basically never talk about it.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I still have loose contact with her. He died a few years ago, tragically. And so it was just a really, it's got a really weird deal with that. But we would have a lot of fun. And then it just stopped. And we never talked about it. And that's a rarity within this organization, because people, people, you're given a conscience.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You don't create your own conscience. You're given a conscience. And then you have to use the conscience that you're given. And so for her to not say anything, for him to not say anything, and feel guilty about it until the elders is remarkable for me at this point. So. But wait. But I mean, they're obviously by like having sex with you, you know, when you're 18 and
Starting point is 00:16:05 they're not married. And the whole scenario that they set up was against your religion. So why would they follow anything else? about it. But what do you mean by consciousness? Like I don't even, I don't even understand what you're talking about, like, for us to not talk about it, you know. So, so that your, your conscience. Yeah. Like, like, my, like, a common term is, like, my conscience was bothering me.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So I talked to the elders about this particular thing. Yes. And so people that do something, they might feel regret after later on. Yeah. And they'd say, okay, well, my conscience was bothering me. And they would bring it to you is what you're saying. You felt like it was odd that they didn't come to you. or you didn't go to them.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I thought, no, I thought it was odd that they didn't get a, they didn't grow a conscience and report themselves to the elders and then get me, you know, drug in. That's, that's what I was trying to say. Oh, okay, okay. I get it now. Yeah. There's not a lot really to talk about with them.
Starting point is 00:16:59 No, but I, what I just want to ask one more question, though, with them. Sure. Sure. Like, how many times? Because like this time that you do it and you pull over, you're with her solo. you know he's not there but you said he likes to watch so I'm assuming that you guys obviously then took it to you know you hooked up with them again and when he was there like what happened after that one time would it how many times did you hook up with them them and then
Starting point is 00:17:22 where did it take place at their house at their house normally one time at one time at a lake but the most most of the time at their house it was it was football sundays over there for him and that's when we would hang out And she would basically walk out in a negligee. And he turned the TV office. He'd say, all right, guys. And then we would go to the bedroom and she would undress me. And he would just sit in the corner and just watch.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Mm-hmm. It was awesome. Right, right. So, yeah, and that was a pretty common thing. I think one time I think he touched my dick. I think he was just more curious than anything. Mm-hmm. But that was it.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Like he didn't, he didn't like to, you know, get blow jobs. He didn't want to spit roaster or anything like that. He was just like, and he liked to watch it. And you love that. And did you tell anyone about that or was that like you? Oh, no, no, no. No, I've never told anybody that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I want to take it. I told my couple that I'm with now, I've told them that. Okay. But anybody, any, like my wife, I've never told. I've never said it to my mom or my dad. Your friends, your friends, no, your guy friends. Nobody. Right. No. No. No. Because that's the other thing within the organization, there's a policy that they set up. Like, say, for instance, if I hear of something that's some wrong thing that somebody's doing, I'm just as guilty of it by not reporting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So there's this whole, there's a snitch culture that you have to do. People just can't be who they want to be. That was, so that was a great experience for you. It was. It was incredible. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:19:07 It definitely, it set the bar kind of high for me in a lot of ways. And then once I got married, I was experienced at this point, but I had to pretend I wasn't. Right. Of course. Because, yeah, because my wife was, you know, like, she wasn't experienced at all. And so I had to, you know, like, what's this? Is this feel good? You know, that, you know, kind of like work from the bottom up.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And we got really good at sex. and we really enjoyed each other with sex and stuff like that. But over time, it just, she got to be more domineering and more domineering. And it was just, it was not fulfilling for me. And I was having a hard time finishing. I was having a hard time maintaining erections and stuff like that. And it was really, it was bothering me. And so after our third child, I was just really depressed and having a lot of issues.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And I got therapy. Therapy was so great for me. Because it taught me how to have compassion for myself. It taught me how to soothe myself whenever I am feeling anxious. And ultimately, it just allowed me to be who I wanted to be and to do it without guilt that was manufactured from a religion and organization. Yeah, that was put on you, right. Yeah. And so a few years back, I started listening to your podcast.
Starting point is 00:20:31 and I was really turned on by the cuck stories and by the wife swapping stories. And I just, I love those. I loved hearing about it. It's so hot. And around that time, like, I was having a really hard time with my, with my wife. Because she just, she was constantly, you know, making me feel bad about like, hey, we were going to have sex last night. I thought we had plans. And where were you?
Starting point is 00:20:59 What were you doing? Like, you know, just, just really snide unnecessary comments about, you know, my sexual, you know, inadequacies in her opinion. Yeah. And so, and so I started, I heard about a pro, an app called Free Fun on your app. And so I downloaded it. I put up, put up some pictures. And it was really interesting because you get a lot of looky-lose. A lot of people just wanting to swap people.
Starting point is 00:21:30 pictures but not really wanting to do anything else. Yeah. And I also, I also had an agenda. I was really pushing for just a couple because I had that experience. I like that experience. Yeah. But I'm also too, like I'm, I don't know if I said that about him bisexual. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I, I, I don't like one more than the other necessarily, but I'm terribly turned on by both. So, um, and it's, and it's great. And so I was looking for a bisexual man with a wife and I found it. and it has been amazing. It really has. Okay, before we get into the details of all that, I want to just ask you because you do say, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:08 you're bisexual and you did say that when you were younger, you kind of like fooled around like with your guy friend. Before, you know, before you met this guy, was there any kind of hooking up with guys in between or was this the first time you were going to be with a man fully? This was the first time being with a man fully. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. And I had always fantasized. had always wanted to, but I was just, I never would. Like being, being in the religion that I was, that I'm in, you, you're kind of, you, you learn to live without. Right. Of course. Yeah, without a lot. Yeah, yeah, without a lot. And so, so it's one of those things where it didn't, it didn't bother me necessarily. But, but, but yeah, when I was a teenager, I had a friend who, um, me, me and him would, it started out just like we were wrestling. We would love to wrestle.
Starting point is 00:23:04 We love to fight and just play around and stuff like that. Yeah. And one time I jumped on his back when he was laying on a couch and my crotch landing on his butt. And he said, keep doing that. And I was like, doing what? He goes just like grinding on my butt cheeks. Yeah. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And so I did. and I got really turned on and he goes hey come to my bedroom so I did and I'm I'm 14 at the time and he is 17 and he has the biggest dick oh my god it is massive right I mean like coke like cocaine like the 16 ounce tall yeah yeah no I saw one of those I look like a baby's arm you know what I mean it wasn't even like like a dick it would look like an arm you know And he was uncircumcised and it was just beautiful. And what's funny with the religion, like we would, I would never suck on it, but I would like hold it and I would jerk him off. And I would jerk him off into a sock and it was pretty hot.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And we kind of fooled around and did some stuff, but we didn't ever go past just fondling and, you know, jerking off and stuff. Yeah, yeah. But it was always in the back of my line. I've always kind of held on to it as one of those good, sexy moments in my life. That's just for me, you know. But yeah, I've always been very attracted, but I've always just held on to not acting upon them just because I just want to get in trouble. And I just, I've never been in a place where I felt like I could do it and enjoy myself. Now, you go on this app.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Now, I'm assuming, I mean, on this app, did you post like anonymous picks of yourself? I mean, because is it like a hookup app? I've never heard of this app. Is it a total hookup app, free fun, you said it's called? Three fun. Oh, three fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard of that one, sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah. Three fun. Yeah, so basically it is. I mean, you can do, it can do singles, couples. Yeah, and I was hitting up gay couples. I didn't get any response really from gay couples. I did get a response from a guy who had pictures, not of himself, but of his wife. He was kind of the caretaker of that stephole scenario.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And he said, hey, I like you. Like, what are you into? Which is kind of like the, normally the question that makes people turned off. But I was just like, oh, okay. Yeah. I'll play. Yeah. And so I answer all those questions, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And he said, let's get together. Try it out. And also listening to your show, I'm very into the idea of safe sex. And so I talked to him about, you know, sex. and if they were tested or anything. He said that they test twice a year. That's good, yeah. And so that made me feel comfortable,
Starting point is 00:26:00 and he actually had, his test results were, I think, six months old or so he was, he's actually going to get another test. Yeah, another test. But he said what they had done, him and his wife,
Starting point is 00:26:14 because he liked getting blow jobs from guys. His wife thought it was really hot that a guy would blow him just so that way he could have sex with her. Right. So you blow him first and then he goes and fucks her kind of thing. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah. But that's what he likes. Right? Yeah. Yeah, that's what he likes. He loves blow jobs and he loves to, so like say I have sex with her and then I come inside her, he in turn wants to go after me. He likes, he likes, I guess you call a sloppy seconds.
Starting point is 00:26:52 That's his thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's pretty hot. I actually really like it and I enjoy it. But yeah, so we get together and it's usually a pretty quick thing. I mean, it's literally like maybe an hour, hour and a half or so. We hang out, talk a little bit, you know, she'll walk out of the room, she'll come back naked. And we'll say, okay, let's all go to the bedroom and then we'll just, you know, get naked and have fun.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Okay, give me some backstory on them. Now, how old are they? And like paint the picture, what do they look like? Are they super hot? You know, do you go to their house? Are they Jehovah Witness? They're not, they're definitely not Jehovah Witness. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:38 They, she is in her 50s and he is in his early 60s. She is incredibly hot. She is, I mean, I think she could easily pass for, passed for 45. She is gorgeous. He's getting a little bit older. He's not a bad looking dude. He's got a beautiful cock. I mean, it's great.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah. So, yeah, I love it. Yeah, well, you know, I think, you know, because when you were, like, I think sometimes we get wired for certain things, especially if something stood out, you know, like your first experiences, a lot of times will shape you for better or for worse. You know, in that couple situation that you had when you were like 18, they were way older too. And like you were in it, that was like a really hot scenario for you. And, you know, like you said, it really raised the bar. So I would think that you'd be attracted again, you know, being attracted again to an older
Starting point is 00:28:35 couple would make sense. You know, it ties back into that first experience you had with that couple. Well, yeah. And yeah. And too, like there's not there's not kids involved. That's another thing. I didn't want, you know, to have somebody that had, like, teenage kids that might find out and then out me or something like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:54 You just kind of think of all those little scenarios, and I keep going, this is the safest, hottest thing for me to do, which is to do this. And it's been awesome. It's been really great. Well, now, where do you guys hook up? Is it at their place? It's at their place. And do they live, like, in your neighborhood or are they far away? Like, I mean, do you ever get worried that someone will see you driving to their house?
Starting point is 00:29:20 No, no. They live about 20 minutes away from me in a neighboring town. And I don't worry about that. They live far away from, I say, like, they don't really have a lot of neighbors. I don't have a lot of friends that live close by to them. Right. And also, they, sorry, there was a policeman going by.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, it's okay. And I heard the car beeping. People are always calling me in their cars. I get, you know, sitting in a parking lot somewhere. It's to come and go on. Yeah. But also, too, I'm able to go and visit them, you know, because I can kind of guide, kind of guise it behind my business.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So I'm just going to say I'm a construction expert of some sort. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. And so they always have things that they need done around the house. And what's interesting, too, is I do that also. So I'll go over there and they'll say, hey, can you put on this door knob or can you put this? Like you really do actually do with some work. I do.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And they pay me. And then I, fuck his, fuck his wife and it's like it's dick. And it's great. Oh, I got that's so funny. But yeah, it's, it's been good for my mental health, which is really weird to. It's, in a lot of ways, it's given me a lot of patience for my wife and her scenario because my cup because now my cup is full right and I don't I don't necessarily need to I don't necessarily need to try to masturbate because I also had a chronic masturbation issue
Starting point is 00:30:57 for I'm going to say more than 25 years oh wow multiple times a day and therapy really helped me to realize that that was something that I needed to to really rein in for my sexual health and for my mental well-being. And I tested myself and I did it and it's been very successful. I have much less of an issue of maintaining, maintaining erections and orgasms are so much better. And there's also a lot of research on something that men can do, which is, I think it calls semen retention or something like that. It's where you try to go for a week or two without doing it, you know, off and on. You don't have to do that all the time, but like it's kind of like taking a tea break if you're, if you smoke marijuana. It's like a tea break only for jerking off or orgasm.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And so it's been good for me in that respect. But yeah, definitely therapy helps and having a couple that allows me to just kind of get my kink every now and then. And then just go back to normal. It's good. I don't know how else to put it. Wendy, we'll get, yeah, we'll get some more stories. Wait, when, I have some more questions. So how many times, like, let's say like a month do you see them?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Is it like a couple times a year? Is it a monthly thing? Is it a weekly thing? Like, what's the consistency of your guys' hookups? So it's a couple of times a month. We try to, every couple of weeks or so, I like to try to get together with them. And it's honestly, it's been phenomenal. How long you've been seeing them for?
Starting point is 00:32:37 I've been seeing them since October. Oh, so it's kind of recent. This is a fairly recent thing for me. And before this, did you ever cheat on your wife or is this the first time? This is the very first, yes. I did have a lot of guilt in the beginning, but it's since Wayne. And I think the reason why is because our relationship has gotten so much better. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's really weird. Yeah, some people would think the opposite. I would think like, oh, I thought you were about to say because our relationship has got so much worse. And then, you know, someone would like justify it. Well, you know, she's such a bitch. Like, so I'm cheating and I don't feel bad. Whereas, you know, some people would think if the relationship is really good, that would create more guilt because you'd be like, oh, my God, I feel so bad. You know, here I am cheating on this person and we have such a great relationship.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You know, um. But it's the opposite for you. It really is. I feel like things have gotten so much better. And it's because of the cheating.
Starting point is 00:33:48 So you see like this sort of like you're put it. It's together. It's because of the cheating that you see your relationship in, you know, improving. Absolutely. Yeah. And I think it's because it's a couple. It's two things. It's because my cup is getting full, but also too my mindset.
Starting point is 00:34:10 surrounding her issues with sex, it gives me more patience with her. And I guess, and honestly gives me more understanding of an understanding, I guess, eager to deal with her issues, with her narcissism and, you know, being the one that really is the only one to initiate sex and stuff like that. Very seldom do I get an opportunity to have sex with her that I initiate or kind of, or like I would say lightly initiate. Mm-hmm. Most of the time it's, hey, like, get naked, let's fuck.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Right. And it's like, okay, let's get naked and let's fuck. And then, you know, we have the same sex and she eats orgasms and then I orgasm and then we go to bed or whatever. Like it's so routine, but it's also, too, what she needs. Right. Like I've asked for kinkier stuff. I've asked for toys in the bedroom. I mean, I'm, I, I talked her into releasing my prostate one time.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And she did an amazing job doing it. What do you mean releasing your prostate? What do you mean? Well, milking in my butt. Yeah. And it was great. But I think it was great for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 She thought it, she thought it would be uncomfortable and not fun. I think that's kind of what she was expecting. Mm-hmm. I don't think she was expecting me to have an amazing orgasm. And so now she won't do it at all. And because you liked it. Yeah, because I liked it. And so, and she, and like, she likes P and the V.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I mean, she likes just straight sex. Yeah. Missionary, like, regular. Missionary dog. Yeah, missionary doggy. Yeah. And it's about it And she does not like a world
Starting point is 00:36:11 She does not like receiving a world Really? She won't give you a blowjob And she doesn't let you go down on her No very seldom And usually it's like a treat You know For who?
Starting point is 00:36:22 For who? For me? Oh for me? Right, but she doesn't see She does a treat for her If you went down on her No, no She doesn't like it
Starting point is 00:36:32 She doesn't like vibrators She doesn't like vibrating She likes spinach and pressure on on the clip. That is that is kind of her thing. But I made all kinds of stuff. I like to keep it fresh and interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And I went a very long time with trying to make it work. And I feel like I have made it work. But I've also had to do a few things differently. Yeah. For myself, because I need to also honor myself. And I'm, I'm not a, I'm in good health. But at the same time, I don't, I've only got so much time on this earth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And I don't want to be 65 years old, you know, and can't hardly do some of the things that I used to do and go, man, I really wish I'd have done that. Let me ask you this. What's her history? Like, have, like, do you know if she, like, obeyed the rules and never masturbated? Was she a virgin when you married her? Does she have problems with the Jehovah Witness, you know, rule book? Or is she totally like it follows it to the T? She, she is a hardcore card-carrying Jehovah's Witness.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Oh, wow. That's difficult then because that's a big disconnect between the two of you. It's a huge disconnect. And it, I don't know, like, it's just she, she, I know for a, fact that she masturbated as a child, but that masturbation was actually, it was an act to keep her from urinating because I guess her mother would have her, like, not go to the bathroom for some reason. And so she would sit on her, on the ball of her foot or her ankle, and then she would, like, rub on herself
Starting point is 00:38:31 and that kept her from having to pee. But it was also that creating an orgasm. It was creating an orgasm. And so, because of the sexual repression, she felt like after she finally figured out what that was, she felt dirty and it actually was an absolute
Starting point is 00:38:47 turnoff for her. Like, she would not do it. Of course. I've asked her to masturbate for me. And she won't do it. Yeah, you got to feel for her because that's a fucked up, like, wiring she got right there, you know? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:01 You know, oh, absolutely. And so now she's having orgasms, but it's, it's, it's like in her brain because, like, it's sort of wired to stopping something from happening that she wasn't allowed to do. So that's really going to take, it's really going to fuck someone up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What about her? Like, I mean, does she know that you go to therapy?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like, what? Does she go to therapy yourself? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. She actually was the one to start a therapy. Okay. And she made a lot of change. in her life that weren't religion related.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Uh-huh. I saw that and went, okay, there's something to this. Yeah. And that's why you started? Yeah, yeah, because, I mean, why not? Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't I try to take the initiative to better myself, you know? And also, too, I was going to try to call her bluff, you know, early on and be like, yeah, you know, this, yeah, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah. But when I sat down with a therapist and I told her my situation with my religion, she said look I she said you can tell me anything unless it involves you like molesting children or killing somebody or doing like terrible crimes like I can't say anything to anybody like this is completely private I can't report this to anybody I would lose my job my license and I would probably get sued by you so like you just know that like this is a safe place and that is a place that not a lot of witnesses have because you're told that the only safe place is in the organization. Of course, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And with the elders of the congregation. They want you to tell them those things, not somebody else. Yeah. So they can control you. Exactly. It's a control. It has nothing to do with, you know, spiritual guidance or whatever, all that bullshit. It's not.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It's about control. It is about knowing everything about you. It's, I look, I could talk for five days about just the witnesses. Yeah, yeah, me too. I find it fascinating. I mean, I what, you know, it's, I feel like maybe it makes sense now because I was going to ask you like, why haven't you gone out of your religion? But I mean, it would be very difficult for you to do that because your wife isn't on
Starting point is 00:41:13 the same page. I mean, you would lose everything. It's not like, you know. Oh, yeah. Oh, I would lose at all. Yeah. Yeah. It's not easy.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It's a, it's a captive organization. Yeah. What it's been coined in the XJW community. Mm-hmm. They hold, they hold you captive by holding. your friends and your family because there's there's people that i know that uh like say for instance in the 70s a guy had five kids all five of those kids had their own families and so you've got all these different people all in the same religion and that's your whole network that's your whole life
Starting point is 00:41:47 yeah exactly yeah and the and the and the second that you mess up one time and they think for whatever reason you're not exactly repentance, they can destroy your life for years at a time. Yeah. They can take away your friends and your family and you're stuck. I mean, there's people that are 16, 17 years old being thrown onto the street because they don't want to be a witness anymore. They have to have friends from school's parents take them in. Like, it's a big deal. And how much hypocrisy is going on? I would assume a lot, but is it very evident? You know, like, you know how like do you are the people that are teaching you these rules and shoving them down your throat i mean is there a lot of talk around town about them doing like crazy shit or do people
Starting point is 00:42:35 really are they really able to keep everything on the d l so i'm going to say that that when it comes to sexual prowess issues they keep it under wraps they do a great job of holding that down in terms of and and when i say them i'm referring to the governing body which is yeah Yeah, that's what I was asking about. Uh-huh. One of the guys was caught on camera, not a few years back on a Sunday when he should have been in church at a liquor store in upstate New York. And he bought, I think it was 10, 10 or 15 bottles of very expensive whiskey or what's the other, what's the scotch? It was like really expensive scotch.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I mean, it was like $1,200 worth of scotch. Yeah. And this guy is honestly part of an organization that whenever you sign up to be part of the organization at the highest echelons, it's a vow of poverty. You're not allowed to have money. You're not allowed to make money outside. Like they give you a small stipend every month if you're a volunteer there. But you're not anything that you make outside, you're supposed to report to them. And then they deduct the difference.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's bananas. So that's that happened there. And then the exact same thing with another one, he and his brother got a, they purchased a investment property in Alabama off the coast. I think it's Gulf Shores. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:08 It's like half a million dollars. I mean, what's he needed for? Because at the same time, our theology, quote unquote theology, is that the end of the world is coming any day. You know, all of us sinners are going to be. be, you know, ripped apart by angels. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And God's going to come in and say, hey, I'm the good guy, remember? So, so, yeah, there's a, there are some, there are a few things like that, but nothing, nothing of a, of a weird sexual nature, nature like that. There is widespread abuse cover ups of child sexual abuse. They do cover it. They do cover that up. And I'm very vocal about that on the H-AW community. I don't really talk about it publicly, especially within the community, because you get turned in and then you'll immediately be shunned. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:00 So that's how the organization really keeps its members on lock and anything that's against the organization, whether it's correct or not. I mean, the governing body could shoot a dude in the face right there and say, I didn't do that, guys. And everybody would believe him. Wow. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's that intense that these guys do know wrong. Yeah, I can't even, I don't even know. I don't know how anyone stays in something like that. But, I mean, I get why they do, because it's just generation after generation, like you're born into it.
Starting point is 00:45:34 It's taught to you, you know, it's shoved in your brain, you know, and then you're, and they're smart about it. Like, you're fucked. Like, you can't get out. You don't believe, you don't buy any of the shit. You're a free thinker. You're your own person. You, you know, you know the deal. but yet you can't leave.
Starting point is 00:45:51 No, no, you can't. Yeah. They dissuade higher education. A quote from Tony Morris of the governing body is the higher, the better the institution, the higher the danger. I mean, that's his quote. And he says it often because critical thinking skills are learned at college. Right, they don't want you to think for yourself. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah, of course not. They want you to hang out and write letters and send them. letters to everybody. I'm sure you've received a letter personally from one of the witness people. I don't know if you have to know. I don't know that I have. I would have thrown it away, but I'm like a very, you know, uh-uh. But you know, listen, I wasn't, like I said, I wasn't, I would be just like you, you know, probably. Like, I mean, it's very hard. I've had some Jehovah Witness people on my show who have gotten out, but I feel like it was, I think
Starting point is 00:46:42 I had a reason one on, but they were like a couple. I mean, I think it's like really hard, like I said for you or they're like a single person. You would have had to have done it before you, you know, had kids and got a wife because all that stuff just makes it really hard. Let's get back because we have like a good 15 minutes left. Let's get back to that couple and tell some more hot stories before we get off because like I could also talk about the Jehovah Witness thing for like so long because it's so fascinated. It's kind of like Scientology. You know, it sounds a lot like that. It's almost like cultish. Oh, it is. But let's talk. So that couple now, are you a top or you a bottom? Do you have anal sex with him? Like,
Starting point is 00:47:18 What do you do with the guy? I haven't had anal sex with him. I have definitely sucked his dick. Okay. And that's pretty much, that's when we get together, I'll suck him really good. But he doesn't want to come, he doesn't want to finish. He wants to finish in his wife. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And so, so yeah. So we will, I'll do that. I'll eat her out. she, I mean, she's, oh, she's incredible. In what sense? Well, just, you know, she's perfectly, I mean, she's like not a hair on her. She's just very clean. She tastes amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:04 She smells amazing. And she gets off and she really enjoys it. It's a very, we have a very good chemistry between us when we're having, when we're having sex. And even, and just as much. too. When we're, you know, when we're having regular, regular sex, I mean, you know, she, she's very vocal. She, you know, she moans and it sounds good and, you know, nails in, you know, the back and just, you know, when she, you know, whenever I come, she really, you know, grips on to me hard, you know, and really wants me to, you know, fill her up with every drop of me.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Like, it's just, it's just a very visceral, very passionate. thing. And then I, you know, and we'll do, we'll like, sometimes she'll say, hey, get behind me and I'll, I'll be fucking her from behind and she'll suck his dick and, you know, like, he'll video it and stuff like that, but he doesn't
Starting point is 00:49:03 ever video like my face or anything. It's just all. Yeah, that's smart. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, so he'll video, that, that's really hot. Does he send you the videos? No. No, I do look at them when I'm together.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I don't, I just, I just to, just to be cautious. That's what I was going to say. That's why I asked, because I'd be like, get that shit off your phone. Oh, yeah, no, no, yeah. In fact, I actually use Google voice for my communication with me because that's the easiest way to send text without it being tracked. Oh, what do you mean? So they have like Google, you could use Google Voice and send messages that aren't like send through like a text box or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:53 So, so I have a throwaway Gmail account that I have set up with this with the Google Voice. And I have a local number assigned to me, but it doesn't notify my phone when I get texts. And I have all notifications turned off. So I have to physically go in when I want to check my messages and say, oh, okay, I got a message from. I mean, and then we'll message back and forth. And then I completely delete it. And it's gone forever. It doesn't go through my, it doesn't go through my network other than just through
Starting point is 00:50:26 the internet. And if I need to get rid of it, I just log out. And it seems to work fine. So he likes to, like, you know, you're both doing her at the same time, right? Like, I mean, it's typically like the three of you in a threesome, not him sitting back and watching. He's not so much a cuck more so that maybe you're just doing like MMF threesomes together. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:50:55 It's, uh, I wish I was more descriptive with it. No, it's okay. You blow him. He blows you. Yeah. Um, she, she blows me. And I, it's, it's just, it's fun. And we, and it's, what I like about it, it's not long and drawn out.
Starting point is 00:51:13 It's like a big quickie. And then once we're done, it's just like close back on and normal conversation afterward. There's, it's a, it is a, to me, it is a perfect transaction. Yeah. There's, I mean, you know, I'm not in love with her in that way. I'm not trying to get married to her or anything. It's literally she wants some good dick. I've got some good dick and I want some good hot pussy.
Starting point is 00:51:42 and we do it. And he likes getting blow jobs. And yeah, I mean... Well, he also likes cleaning up, so he's into all that. I mean, there's a lot going on for him that he enjoys. Now, have you looked for other couples, or is this like all you're looking for? You're kind of at the top of the mountain, so you don't need anybody else. Do they see other people?
Starting point is 00:52:03 As far as I know, they have seen other people. I don't think that they do now. I'm one of a few that they've had in the past. They, and they were long terms for them. So they had, they had a, they had a guy for, I think, 10 years. He was in military. They had another guy that was a close personal friend of theirs who just kind of, you know, a drunken night turned into a fling that turned into a, you know, decades long, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:31 friendship, fuck fiesta, you know. Fuck fiesta. That's funny. Yeah. So, but they just said, he just said, look, I'm, we're looking for. somebody to come in every now and then and to just show us a good time. We don't need you to, you know, be here all the time and stuff like that. It's just something that we need. And it's something that I can maintain with my schedule and with my limited lifestyle that I have.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And it works out for me. Yeah, no, I mean, it's perfect for them. It's perfect for you. I mean, they're not far. Like you said it, you know, it's helped your marriage. I mean, the million dollar question is like, you know, do you plan on, or at least my question is, like, you know, now that this seems like it really works, is this just how you're going to proceed for the rest of your life? I mean, like, will you still try? Because I do think, you know, because there's stuff with, you know, you're with your wife and, you know, you still maybe have young kids and stuff, but, you know, your relationship is going to grow and change. And I just hope that you're still working on that relationship trying to make it better.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I know that like this is like a fix right now and it and it's like, oh, it made my relationship so much better. But like maybe you could still work on that big problem that you had in your relationship. No? You know? Oh yeah. Absolutely. Aside from just working on myself, you know, I do want to, I do want to work on my relationship
Starting point is 00:54:01 with my wife. And it's honestly, it's given me. the mental bandwidth to be able to do that. I'm not pissed off and frustrated about, you know, the sex or lack of sex and in a relationship and I can focus on my work. I can focus on my kids. I can focus on her. I mean, everything about being in a relationship is way more enjoyable now.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Did you guys ever have couple counseling where you talked about it and like, you know, did you ever talk about your problem? your intimacy problems, issues like with someone together or just separate? We always talked about doing it, but we always seem to be able to work out differences between each other. The sexual stuff, I wish we could have, and that's still on the table. I think that there's a way we can do that. One thing that we did do, though, is we used an app. It's like a couple's app.
Starting point is 00:55:01 It kind of asks you questions about each other. There's different subjects to go to, you know, whether it's like, love making or whether it's, you know, communication or physical touch. Like, it has these different things and you can, it's interesting because you can, you can, you can't see, like, you can't see their answers until they fill their answers all the way out. And they can't see years until, you know, but, you know, vice versa. So, um, so that, that's been nice because like throughout the day, like, I'd answer some
Starting point is 00:55:32 questions and then she, she'd get the notification that she, then she'd answer the questions. and then we'd look at the results and we talk about them later on that night. That was really fun. What app is that? That sounds like an interesting concept. What's the app? Do you remember? Yeah, it's called lasting.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Lasting. Lasting is the app name. And there's a free version on there. And then I think it's like, it's a little pricey. It's like 80 bucks a year for the full benefit. Yeah. But the full benefit is really the full. you know, the whole enchilada is nice.
Starting point is 00:56:08 There's also some of my online classes and stuff like that that you can, you know, sign up for. I mean, it's really, it's really immersive and it really, it gives you an opportunity to be open about things. And you can't really go off on tangents either about stuff. You can't just write a bunch of, write a bunch of, it's mainly just clicks. Like, you know, this is how I feel about this. Like it'll give you like ADCD. How do you feel about this, this, that, or the other? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And it talks about all different things in relationships, like is sex a part of it? Or is it only about sex? Oh, yeah. Right. Oh, no. It talks about sex, relationship. Yeah, that's great. I like that.
Starting point is 00:56:46 That sounds like a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. I highly recommend it to anybody. And, you know, if, if, and also, too, like, if that couple that I'm with now outside my marriage, if they were to say to me, hey, like, we're not into this anymore or we're going to, you know, we're getting old. we don't want to do this anymore, you know, I would be okay.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Mm-hmm. Like, it's something, and I, and honestly, if I was to, if that was to happen, I may not do it again. You think? I, yeah, I don't have to. Well, you don't have to now because you have it. Don't you think that you'd wind up, like, right where you started? Like, you'd come full circle.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Oh, yeah, totally. Frustrated, like, and then maybe that would, I feel like you'd, it'd just be like a, a big, you know, a hamster wheel. You'd go back and you'd wind up eventually needing it because you're not. But I mean, I think as long as you while you're doing this, you should, you know, the fact that you're still working on that stuff with your wife, that will ensure that you're not where you were, you know, before this started. That, you know, you want to work on that relationship too so that hopefully when you lose that or at some point, you could be being fulfilled, you know, at home, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:04 would be the best case scenario and really I mean our you know my wife and I our sex has gotten way better over the last I don't know six months yeah it's it's it's it's really improved I got a I got a the second me after my last child because I didn't want anymore yeah and that was another level you know because it made our sex a lot dirtier because it wasn't I wasn't trying I wasn't trying to like avoid coming inside of her yeah yeah exactly and it just it made it way more way more fun and free and free and she liked it I liked it but still there was just some things about her past and her previous traumas that just kept her from being able to fully you know enjoy
Starting point is 00:58:55 sex like yeah I'm sad for her I feel sad for her because she definitely has stuff but she could If she really honed in and worked on that, I mean, she could really release that stuff and change her life. You know, that's her own, that's her own thing. But it does affect your guy's relationship. But it really is something that, you know, she's been dealing with her whole life. And, you know, listen, she has three little kids. You know, I'm assuming there's still little, you know, you have three kids. I mean, you know, it's probably not the top of her mind like on her to do list.
Starting point is 00:59:29 like, oh, got to work on my sexual dysfunction right now. You know, she's got a lot going on. You know, but, you know, you hope that at some point, just for her, you know, and you're married second, but for her first that she does work right on that and tries to release some of that because that's, she got really unfortunately wired improperly. Besides all the regular bad wiring that's going on, that whole thing of not being able to pee in what she did. I mean, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So fucked up. But, you know. That is, yeah. But I love your story. Okay. I, like I said, like you said, too, I could talk about that Jehovah Witness shit for like 10. I mean, it's so fascinating to me how it's all set up. I think a lot of people who are Jehovah Witness will find this episode and listen.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I think you don't have to be a Jehovah's Witness to find this episode interesting. You'll listen because the whole story about how you found this couple and then the stuff when you were the couple that you had when you were 18 and what you did with your friend. I mean, all of that is like super interesting. So thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. Just real quick, if there's any Jehovah's Witnesses that are on the fence about Jehovah's Witnesses, go to jwifax.com or go to the Lloyd Evans channel on YouTube. He has a ton of content about debunking a lot of the theology using the scriptures
Starting point is 01:00:53 and using the organization's own literature against the. It's incredible. Oh, interesting. Wait, so what does that say that again? It's the Lloyd Evans channel on. Wait, I can't hear you. Your pause. The Lloyd L-L-O-O-D.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Evans. Uh-huh. The Lloyd-Evins channel is on YouTube. He has a ton of information on there. And also, jwfax.com. There's a ton of information. that's brought together because within the organization information, you might, on one subject, you might get 10 different answers.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yeah. And so this brings all those answers together in a very easy to see way and go, okay, like there's not just one truth. There's many different truths. And so just anybody that runs into doubts about the organization, don't be scared to look at it because honestly, it's freeing. It's terrifying when you first do it, but it is so freeing to know the truth about the truth. Right. And it doesn't mean that you'll have to change your whole life, right? Because I think
Starting point is 01:02:08 sometimes that's the big fear too is like, oh my God, if I do the then, then what happens next and I lose my whole family. You know, like, I mean, you could just go in and get informed. Yeah. Yeah. Knowledge is power. Knowledge is power. You know, take a little bit of that power back. Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you so much for for having me on your show. No, thank you. And thanks for giving me those plugs at the end. I think that that's a good thing to put out there. All right. All right. Bye. Timothy. Thanks so much. Bye.
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