Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 466 - Fetish Fridays: Russell is Into Pantyhose

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

Russell is into pantyhose and he calls in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the detials which include when he realized he had the fetish, how far he takes it including how he sometimes crossdresses, how he told his first girlfriend and how he found out she had told others, how nothing beats seeing a woman in pantyhose for him, how and why his wife rarely wears them for him and what he's tried to change her mind, his theory on why women in the US wear pantyhose less than European women, the kind of pantyhose he prefers including color/brands, how he joined Fetlife on the download to engage with other men who have this fetish and what else he does on there, all the women he told about his fetish and how they reacted, why he thinks women should wear pantyhose more often and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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noticed when I went on to Craigslist was that there were like a ton of of people that were into the panos finish. So I had a lot of guys on early on because that's who was on there. And that's who I was reaching out to. And I couldn't believe how popular it was. It was so popular. And I started to learn about it so much through the guests that were on my show that I decided to create a whole tier on my Patreon dedicated to guys that have a Panios fetish. Now, those guys are called my hosers. I have hundreds of hosers that have, that are, that are on my Patreon. I created a community there. I love it. They get, if you sign up for that Patreon tier, you get all the back exclusive episodes. There's tons of them now because I've

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Okay. And he called in to talk all about it. We talk a lot of big picture things. What I love about Russell is he has like a lot of really good, what are those called? Analogies. An analogy, right? He's married. His wife doesn't really engage in wearing pantyhose for him.

And I think a lot of you guys can relate to that. He talks about, you know, outing himself and letting people know. He has outed himself to a lot of people. He not only likes to see. women wearing panty hose loves that but he also wears himself he does some underdressing and you know that's like what cross dressers do so yeah it does a little bit of cross dressing we touch on that a little bit but mostly we talk about his panty hose fetish we talk about how one of his first girlfriends in high school outed him and he found out so so much later in life he talks about why he loves seeing

women in panty a hose he talks about why his wife won't wear them and, you know, what's her reasoning and what he's tried to do to get her to change. He has his theories on why women here don't wear pantos, even though they do much more so in European countries. He talks about a friend at work who knew about his hose fetish and would like kind of entertain it. He talks about the kinds of hose he likes, the brands he likes. I have all that information, he gave me a whole list of brands, a really great, amazing list of brands with websites that he loves. That is all on Patreon. I already have that. He is on FetLife, so he could meet a ton of other hosers like himself on there. Sometimes he does buy and he does

engage a little bit because his wife doesn't fulfill that fantasy. And we talk about that. But like mostly sweet, and he talks about like the best shows that he watched that he saw people, you know, wearing panty hose as well as like how 80s was the greatest time and and just all that good stuff, all the stuff that you as a hoser are going to be able to relate to. I think he does a really great job at breaking it down, giving some great analogies and really expressing what you most likely feel as well. So you're really going to connect with Russell. So I'm going to be right back on with Russell. Hi, Russell. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm pretty good. So listen, Russell, you are what I would say

call a hoser. Okay, I have a Patreon account and I, I have a whole section dedicated to hosers because like when I started my podcast years ago, one of the biggest things that surprised me were like how many men were into panty hose. I never knew it before. I didn't realize what a common fetish it was. Now, you found me, I think, on YouTube, right? That is correct. And were you Googling for like panty hose porn or something? I don't know where you're going to Google it. Like how did you find my show? Was it a pan?

I'm assuming it was a panty hose episode. Yes. I found your site through YouTube. I go on there a lot and put in the search for panty hose. And you run across folks who have shows where they review panty hoes and things like that. And I ran across your strictly anonymous site. And I think it's great, right? When you have a fetish to hear other people and hear from other people who have the same fetish, right?

Even if you can't relate totally because every person is unique, right? You're going to tell me your hoser story and it's probably going to be similar to a lot of the ones I've heard before. But also not similar because you're your own person, right? But I think it's great that, you know, there is that I have those episodes for people to find because what I'm always getting his emails from people like, thank you so much. Like I don't feel so alone or normal. Now, your panty hose fetish, when did it start? And quick question, before we get into it,

is it like a secret private life of yours? Or is it something that you bring into your relationship? Are you in a relationship? Yes, and no. I'm in a relationship. I've been married for over 20, we'll be 25 years this spring. Uh-huh.

As spring 2022. I came out to my wife, but was then my girlfriend when we were in college. when we were in college together. Oh, that's good. There's a story behind that. She was the second girlfriend that I'd ever come out to. I love that.

You call it coming out. Because that's like what it is. Of course, yeah. The first one, my penny hose fetish started as a child. I'm a child of the 70s. I was wearing or playing around with penny hose all my life. I'm in my 50s. now, so all my life.

Yeah. And so when I was in college, I met this girl, and I decided, you know, there was always this, and, you know, be honest in your relationships and what have you. And I told her. And it, you know, it wasn't much of a, you know, she didn't like totally lose it or anything like that. Yeah. Because for her, wearing hosier was a part of her.

fordrobe. It wasn't a daily thing, but she wasn't, you know, but she wore hosry. So for her, I was just thinking, okay, he likes to wear him occasionally. And, you know, he likes it definitely when I wear him. I mean, to me, I wear, I wear panty hose almost every day. And, and, um, but more importantly, I love to see women in hosier. Right. And, um, I'm an African-American guy and, and coming out to your girlfriend in college and you're at a, um, but, um, you're at a very important. what we call it historically black college or university. The cultures and things are very different. Yeah.

So this was tough. And it was terrified because if you get outed, you're talking about a school that's only got, you know, 3,000 and 5,000 students. Oh my God, right. Everyone finds out. Oh, no.

Knows everyone or knows of everyone. Yeah. It was a horrifying thing to confess this. But then what got interesting was if she was going to go out on a day, or hang out for the evening or want to get dressed up and she didn't have any, she would come to me and be like, hey, look, you got a pair of hose. Oh, my God, that's awesome.

Like an added benefit. You know, but unfortunately, things didn't work out between the two of us. And we ended up breaking up. But we all had the same circle of friends. And she outed me to my friends. Oh, no. I didn't even think of that. Like, after you broke up, how did you find out she outed you? I found out years later. Oh, interesting. No one said anything. They all knew for years and no one's told you. No one believed her. Oh, okay. Tell me the story. Yeah. So no one believed her. But it broke my heart that she would do that to me because there were things that she confided me that I have never told.

Yeah, right. Right. totally understand right so um but i didn't find out that she outed me until years later i mean you're like like i'm talking i've been married for 25 years um i found out within the last year that she outed me oh my god i'm thinking you didn't you found out like four years later you found like almost 30 years later yeah i found out on nearly 30 years later to she out wow and how did you find out. Her brother, his wife, and my wife are friends. Her brother and I were, her brother and I are close friends.

And my wife was talking with her friend. And her friend was like, yeah, you know, someone so said, has always said a lot of negative things about your husband. You wouldn't believe some of the stuff. And I was like, really like what? And when she mentioned that one and they both started laughing. And Moly's like, yeah, right. You know, my wife kind of just laughed with it knowing that it was true.

Yeah. She just kind of laughed it off. I was like, yeah, that sounds really absurd. She was like, yeah, no, you know, he doesn't. She goes, if you looked at it, you know, Russell would be the last person you would think that would be into cross-dressing or wearing clothes. And I do cross-dress as well. Okay, interesting. The cool thing about being out to my wife is.

if I want to sit down one evening and paint my toenails, not an issue. You know, getting up in the morning, getting dressed and putting, and I do a lot of crosshress is called underdress, where you wear women's things under your male clothes. So if I get up in the morning after shaving and showering, and I decide to put on some panties and panty hose, which is almost daily, my wife doesn't bat an eye. Right.

It is just part of what it is. so where I like some other hosers I don't have that problem of having to sneak around behind my wife now I'm not out to my kids or anything like that and COVID has put a real kabash on things because you know prior to COVID you know you take a day off and work you can stay at home there's nobody home you can if I wanted to get dressing from head to toe not a problem and wasn't an issue. But, you know, with COVID here and I have some college age children who are, you know, taking classes remotely so they're home. Oh, right. Because I was trying to think, what's the difference, you know, it's because you're not alone enough.

The kids are around 24-7, that kind of a thing. Exactly. So that. But for me, you know, underdressing and cross-dressing is one. But for me, nothing. There's absolutely nothing that beats seeing a woman in hosiery. I don't think women fully understand that there's a population of men out here, that when they get up in the morning and they put some thigh highs on or stockings or knee highs or whatever, whether they're dressed up in dresses and heels or they put on some leggings and they had hose on and some kids on and ran the Walmart. I don't think they realize how many men that are out here when they see them are instantly

attracted to them, instantly turned on. A woman, in my opinion, a woman ballheaded to us. And if she's got clothes on, in my opinion, she's a step above Beyonce. Oh, my God. What a great way to explain the intensity of this fetish for you. I love it. Yeah. So, and it doesn't have, like I said, it doesn't have to, it can be something as simple as

a woman walking by and her shirt rides up a little bit and you can see the band just barely above her jeans or her leggings or something. Oh, interesting. You know, or being able to look down and see a little toe cleavage and see the, you tell that she's wearing hose. Uh-huh. Something just as simple for me makes my heart skin. I mean, it's just like, wow, I'm already, I'm like, I'm interested in everything about this woman at that point.

Yeah. Conversely, my wife almost never wears. It's, she'll wear them to a funeral, maybe to a wedding. If we're going to some sort of formal event, maybe. That's a toss-up. The only time that I've been 25 years that I can remember my wife will host. every day, never made a comment, never said anything negative. I took her to Europe for one of our anniversaries.

Wow. And we spent a week in Europe and she warmed in and that was it. Why do you think that was the case? Because so many other women were wearing it there? Do you think that she feels like it's out of fashion here? Well, one thing she looked up was what was the fashion for that country at that time of year? Right.

And the ocean was a big part of it. Yeah. So not wanting to stick out as Americans. Yeah, yeah. what it is. Yeah. I've had some debates with different hosers over the years about, you know, why, why American women wear versus they don't or why women are certain ethnic groups where versus others that don't. It's an interesting conversation and a whole bunch of theories go back and forth about things like that. because, you know, the United States is different than other countries.

We're a much more casual country than other countries. So, you know, those things come into effect. You know, I've, like I said, my wife listening to her and her friends sit around and talk. Some of them are aware of the fact that when they wear hosury, nylons or panty hose or stockings or whatever, that they get more attention from men. That's interesting. They could tell. She was not to wear them.

Crazy, right? Yeah. You would think as a man that if you were a woman, you, right? And you were those women that knew that you just be doing it. But I think when it comes down to it, that women get so much attention for men already that they're like, oh, I'd rather be comfortable than get a, you know, I think that or, you know, because maybe it's like a comfort thing or whatever is the reason why they don't want to wear it. It's like the sort of desire to have men want them is less.

than their desire to break the fashion rules maybe. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I know for my wife's attitude is always, you know, I want you to want me for me. Yes, I hear that a lot. Have you heard, have you listened to a lot of my hoser things? A lot of men say that that's the pushback that they get, that the woman is like, it's not about me then.

Like you just care about the hose. And, you know, I don't understand that, but I've heard it so many times. And my response to her is I like ice cream. Right. And I love ice cream. Yeah. But if you're going to give me a bowl of ice cream or I have a choice to clean ice cream with maple nuts and whipped cream on it. Yeah.

I'm going to take the maple nuts and whipped cream. Is that the same price? I'll take the one that's more dressed up. Right. Oh my God. What a great analogy. It doesn't mean. It doesn't mean.

It doesn't mean. What a great analogy to make and to give her. She didn't, she, you know, sometimes women aren't so, like, they just don't. don't grasp facts as much. You know, they're all feelings. But I think that's like a great analogy to throw her way, to get her to, like, throw out her theory, you know, of the fact that you just want the hose and not her.

She's the ice cream. She's the ice cream. Yeah, I love that analogy. It really paints the picture. The hose are the maple nuts and whipped cream. Yeah. The other thing is I remind, like when there's a bunch of us sitting around, talking and of course women always want to ask questions about men you know especially if i'm the only

guy they're like well no rus why why why why is this that way or why is that that way not their mind men are visual creatures and yeah yeah we fall in love with the substance and the mind and all that kind of stuff but if you want to capture our attention off the rip yes you got to give us something that we like to see right so true mm-hmm you know and so often they you know you know I don't know whether it's And they always talk about comfort And I'm like, well, you know, If you think men are always comfortable in a suit

Or always comfortable in a shirt tie And all those types of things You're a little mistaken No, and they're right And they're not comfortable in those fucking high heels Okay, I was a girl who wore heels You wouldn't call me. I was like I only wear sneakers to the gym

I was like obsessed with high heels Until I had a child, you know But I was never really that comfortable But I just, you just either You learn to put it on the side because you know you look good, you know. And I think the problem is that women don't visually look at panty hose in the same way. So they don't see it as much of like, oh, it's making my legs look, you know, in all the ways that you see it.

Right. Like, and this is what I've heard from my hosers and that it just makes your legs look perfect, you know. It's like makeup for the like. Some women get that. And those are the women that still wear it and rock it, you know. But a lot of women don't. But see, there are so many things in hosers. And like all of us hoesers are different.

So for me, it's like a combination of building blocks. Not only is it the hose, but if she's got a nice pedicure going and it's got to be a high contrast in colors. What I mean by that is if she's got really dark color skin, she's got like red polish or white polish or she's definitely light color skin and it's a black polish or really dark red. that high contrast, it peaks out in the hoes, especially with some peeptoe pumps or something like that. Oh my God, the sex appeal is off the charts. Right. Interesting. Give me some more of like what you specifically like are you, because what always surprised me in the beginning when I talked to hoesers were that they liked nude panty hose, you know, which is like for women, the, you know, bottom of the barrel, you know, you just have this thought on them, you know,

But a lot of times I hear from hosers that that's what they like the best. What are the colors and the den and all that stuff that you prefer? Just specifically to you. Well, considering I don't see many women where in the past I would have said, you know, give me nude hose all you all. Yeah. And in the past, I would have said, give me nude hose. I can't stay in fishnets.

Right. But I talk about our hosiery fetishes if I'm a man walking through the desert, dying of thirst. And at this point, instead of holding out for Perrier, I will take rainwater in the bucket. I love your analogies. It could be tights. It could be fishnets. It could be pattern fishnets.

It could be nude hosts. It doesn't matter. Yeah. At this point, I'm so starved to see it. It doesn't matter. Right. Now, if I have an abundance in front of me, I'll take the nude or the sheer black and a heartbeat over most other things. Right. But if I'm sitting on a subway train and there's 50 women there and 49, I'm a bare-legged and one of them's got on fence net tights, which to me I don't understand the purpose of having fence nets on because the holes are so big.

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And let me ask you this because I've heard this from my hostess before too. Are you also like a leg man? Yes. I'm a legman. And I have my preferences on women. in size. Yeah. You know, I like the joke and say, I like women to have a dress size as a legal age.

So, you know. Yeah. So, you know, or at least a legal age to drive. So, like, a 16 and 18. To me, a woman's supposed to have curves. They're supposed to have hips. They're supposed to have bus. And they're supposed to have curves.

So I like a curvy woman. Yeah. women, if you divide things in the ethnic groups, as I said, I'm an African-American. So, you know, my number one preference is African-American women. But women of other ethnicities, if they're redheads or they have dark color hair, major turn on, if they have an accent, it could be a southern accent. That's the contrast. That's that same contrast part of you. That just likes things on, you know, ends of the spectrum. maybe, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It could be a southern accent. It could be a British accent. It could be Caribbean. It could be

Asian. It doesn't make a difference. The accent is just, you know, it does it. And, you know, I, like many of your hosers, I'm on Fat Life. And if you see, it's, you know, it's, I appreciate Fat Life. I found out about Fat Life from a co-worker. This woman, surprisingly enough, she figured out I was a hosiery fetishist. How? I would say probably

in a matter of a month. How? She would have a tendency to come to my cubicle, to talk or ask about questions and stuff, and every now and then, she would slide, you know, a lot of women would slide their foot out of the shoe, you know, she was hurting or whatever. And when

she did it, I would just lose focus. of it just, I could not, I could not not look away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she put two or two together. And one day she confronted me about it. And she was like, it's okay. She said, and she told me, she goes, I write fetish novels on the side as a side gig. And I was like, wow.

And I was like, well, tell me what your, you know, your pen name is. And she would never reveal what her pen name was. Interesting. But we got to, she confessed that she was a, she was a, a she liked to be dominated. She liked to be dominated. She liked to be spanked and beat to the point where she'd be black and blue all of her body. Yeah.

And I found that very interesting because it seemed like I ran across more people who had fetishes like that. But it was so hard to find a woman that would be willing to wear hosiery for me. Right, right. She's the one that turned you on to Fat Life. She's the one to turn me on the fat life. Yeah. And she would do, once she found out, she would do stuff like come over, just in the course for normal work day, come over to like ask questions, you know, to talk about work in the

cube. And she would literally step out of her shoes and just stand there in hove. And, you know, and she would lean over and kind of giggle and be like, you know, I did that because I know you need your daily dose. And she would joke about stuff like that. Yeah. And to this day, we're still friends. But it was just...

She's still a writer of erotica and you've never found out her pen name? Nope. Interesting. Yeah. She wouldn't tell me her pen name. And I can understand that. And she, we talked about, you know, all my stuff and her stuff. And, you know, we just shared our different fetishes and things like that.

and it was cool to have someone who understood me and did not, and I felt like did not judge me. Yeah, for sure. And threw you a bone every now and then, totally got it. And was fine to be like, hey, look over here. And she was one of the few women in our office who would wear hopes. Yeah. And she's like she said, if nothing else, I wear them because I know you appreciate what you see.

I was like, oh, absolutely. Right. And so that was the, that's the third woman I've ever come out to. There's another lady I worked with that I, and can imagine that that's, that's even more scary. But another one, this lady, she would wear, again,

she'd another one who would wear hose and wear panty hobs and stuff. And one day, she like leaned forward to do something in our shirt. her slid up just a little bit and I could see the band across the, you know, just above her pants. And I was just captivated.

And she turned around real quick and she was like, what are you staring at? And I literally could not talk. Wow. Because I was just that captivated. And I eventually, you know, we were pretty good friends

and I eventually confessed to it. And she kind of giggle a little bit. And she goes, nothing wrong with that. That's, that's kind of cool. And she's like, and you wear them too? I was like, yeah. And she goes, hmm. And she just kind of, and that was it. It wasn't a big deal. But she also was very sympathetic of, she's like, I can understand where your wife may have issues with this. Right. You know, she's like, you know, because then the next question is, does he want me for me or does he want me from my hose? Or when I'm not there,

does some woman walk by wearing a dress and panty hose and just take my husband from me because I don't wear on a regular basis. Yeah, like that girl that was coming by and showing you. I mean, that's no different than like for a guy who's not into hose that's into tits. Like that would be like, oh, at work every time. Every now and then my, you know, Cube, you know, friend comes over

and, like, flashes me her tits. You know, I mean, like her flashing you, her feet in hose is this no different right i mean you would probably get a heart on looking at that so oh oh my god yeah you know i did i mean there were times i you know i'm not gonna lie going home you're thinking about it you got a little time to yourself you do a little self-love um and that that's one of the things that that bothers me because i can go on fat life and i can get a visual overdose of hosury. Right.

What I find interesting is the vast majority of people of Fet Life that I've encountered that wear hosury are cross-dresses and hoversers like myself. But I think for many of us, we get to the point we don't care because you want to see somebody in hoves. Right. So what you're saying, you don't care whether it's a man or a woman is what you're saying. Yeah.

After a point, it doesn't matter. Going back to the whole, you know, dying of thirst, you're in the desert. You want something to drink. You want some water. You take what you can get because it's not out there. You know, and I don't understand at times how, like I said, it's easier to find someone, it would be easier for me to find someone who'd be willing to let me beat them, tie them up, pour hot wax on them, there's folks on fire into golden showers and all types of other stuff.

When a guy like me, all I would love to do is be able to come home from work and when my wife or my woman comes home, have her sit down on the sofa, kick her shoes off, put her feet in my lap, let me rub her panty hose, cover feet and let me listen to her talk about her day. Yeah. And you've asked your wife to do exactly that and she's like no fucking way. Yep. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? It's like it's so interesting when you put it into that perspective like you know like you have all these people that would cop to that or just do it you know, um, and are into it yet where are the women that would do that? It's just like it's so much easier. It's like no big deal. Yet why? Why not? It is. What have you pondered? Like, what do you think? I have no idea. Now, I've asked. Yeah. And it's, oh, you know, struggle to find the right size or I don't

wear the grocery store kind. I only wear the upper end kind. When that, when that excuse came out, I pulled out my credit card. I said, okay, here. Wilford all the way. Yeah. Here, here, here's a credit card. I will, I will pay for whatever you want. Yeah. If you want, if you want $100 Wolfords or $100 share tax or whatever, I'll pay for. Right. And, no, no, we'll worry about that another day.

Or it's, they don't carry my size and they're two binding. Or, and this is the one I hear from a lot of African-American women. They don't do sheer or nude in my shade. That must be true, though. Is that true? I mean... Well, here's the thing. Yeah.

Like where, you know, where some people just shop for stuff. Me, I go online and I shop for pantos. Yeah. And I found there's a car hosery, which is a brand made by an African-American lady down in southern Maryland. Uh-huh. There's nude bar, nude bar, I think it's, a brand up in New York made by a lady who was a professional dancer. Hers are she's got like about 12 different shades of nude and she covers tights, nude fishnets

and underwear and brawets and stuff like that. There's several nude varieties that are designated or geared towards African American women out of Europe. Yeah. And places like that. They're there if you want to shop for them. if you want to find them, if you want to purchase them. They exist. That's really good to know because, I mean, do most African-American women know about this?

Are they very mainstream? Or did you have to go Googling to find them? You probably have to Google it. One of the things I've, my life has friends of all ethnic groups and I know. And God bless Muscatto because once, you know, a couple bottles of moscato gets passed around. People so talk. I can listen and learn a lot. Yeah.

Going back to the thing of them, understanding that, you know, this attracts attention. However, what I find is, for many of them, they want that, that tan, satiny, shiny appearance on their legs. Right. For a lot of African-American or Latino women, handful of cocoa butter or baby oil, you could achieve that without ever having to wear panty. Right. Where women of lighter skin tones or other ethnic groups, they need to have some sort of hosiery or spray tan or whatever to achieve that same look. Right.

They already have the tan. I mean, like their skin is already that darker. Nice look that some women, like you said, use fake tanner to get. Yeah. And so I don't know whether that's the issue or, you know, I try to be. complimentary when she wears them. Yeah. Like I know that that swish,

swish sound that they make when women walk. My wife can't stand that sound. To me, I think that's the sexiest, you know, that's that's that come hither that I hear. You know, a woman walks by and you hear that swish, swish sound. It's like, oh, my God. Yeah.

I'm drawn to, like I said, I want to talk with her and see her and learn everything about her because, just because I can hear that sound where I see that she's, wearing hose. Yeah. It's it's like a drug. And now does it

act the same way when you wear them and you hear that sound when you're wearing them? Oh, it turns me on. Absolutely. Like I said, I wear hose almost every day

and I paint my toenails, you know, but in guy mode, I'm guys, guy, I played football. Yeah. I work in law enforcement. The last person you would expect if you had the line of a group of folks. But it's...

No, I love that. I've told my guy friends, because, you know, I've been doing my show for seven years now, and I've learned a lot about what's going down, you know, on the DL that nobody knows. And one of the things I've said to, a lot of my guy friends is like, next time you're in, you know, a room with 20, 30 guys, you know, locked. the door and then tell everyone to drop their pants. How many hosers are you going to find? I bet you more than one. Okay. You know, like they're there. They're out there. They're among you. Like you said early on, like when somebody found out or brought up that, you know, quote unquote rumor about you. They were like, yeah, right, you know, because you're like not the type,

but you are. And so it's like, there is no type. That's the whole point. There is no type. Right. There is no type. But it's... Can we go back a little bit to you? Sure. I love like, I think I'm going to air this definitely on my regular show. I think this is going to be a really good overview, like Panty Ho's thing. Just for my regular, you know, on my fetish Fridays because I want a solid one for this.

But I want to get into a little bit of like your personal history with it again. But starting like when you were little, like what were those first moments for you that you know, Pantyhose and realized that this was a fetish. Well, my mom wore hosiery every day. Right. You know, my mom would wear hosier and mom would do her own pedicures and things like that. And then I remember being in kindergarten and my kindergarten teacher, she would wear navy blue hose. She used to wear this navy blue pants suit a lot.

She'd always wore a navy blue hose with it. And it just captured my attention. Yeah. And, you know, going to school in, you know, 75 through 88 was my formative school years. And, you know, the teachers all wore hosiery every day. The girls at high school, it was not uncommon for girls in high school in the early 80s to wear hosury. Totally. Yeah, I grew up at that same time.

Uh-huh. So for me, it was just, it was there. It was part of it. And I think back when those years, and it's like, man, it was great. And it was just a great time to be into it. And I remember the late 80s, early 90s were ladies would walk around and they would have their workout fit on. But they would have socks and tennis shoes and pantyhoes and you'd be walking up and down the streets and heading places. And I thought that was the greatest.

thing in the world. Right. And then, you know, you know, and it shows like the nanny with Fran Drescher or the adventures of Lois and Clark with Terry Hatcher wearing hosier all the time. Just

all those things, Charlie's Angels and all those great shows where women just wore hosieres all the time. And now you, that's a hosier's competition where we look on Fat Life. People talk about what shows, you know,

talk about shows that had, you know, hosiery. Yeah. People can go back in Google because we're all dying to see this. Right. It has to come back into fashion like everything else. I do notice, I got to tell you, I'm like a reality TV person. I watch, and I love like watching the housewives, all that shit, like most women. And I notice how, like, and they're getting styled by stylists, right?

They're not just picking up shit in their, you know, closets. These women, it's a job for them. They're looking good. And so many of them wear hose with their outfit and interesting ones and like a mate, you know, and I notice it because I talk to hosers and because I notice things like that now, like I said, because of my show. So I just wonder, is it more in fashion now? Do you see a trend? Because when I watch the women on TV who are dressed to the nines and are totally wearing like what, and like I said, are being styled by stylists. They have on hose and interesting ones, patterns that go with their dresses, you know, I have been noticing that or is that something that is different now or has that

always been the kid? Do you see a trend towards maybe more women wearing hose? I see a trend towards things like, well, you know, a couple of years back when Rihanna came out with the mock suspender panty hos for Fenty. And girls were wearing the stuff where it was tights up to the knee and then it would have some sort of pattern and it'd be sheer panty hose the right of the way. That went on for a while. Now with, I think, the Cardi B's and the Megan the Stallions and all these other young ladies, what you see are the patterned fishnets. Right. And that seems to be the thing that young ladies are gravitate toward, you know, give them some sort of fish net or whatever to have some sort of lace pattern on it.

some other type of pattern or whatever, and they'll wear that. Yeah. But doesn't Kim Kay have a whole line of stuff? I do think, like, I feel like I see it more now. What? Skim's line. Yeah.

Yeah. So this whole thing of nude fishnets and the new nudes that are, you know, where nude isn't just one color, it's a spectrum, and you can pick your shade or spectrum. I think that is slowly but surely, you know, getting, you know, coming in. I've purchased some of the nude bear nude fishnets. And like I said, I was never a big fishnet fan, but it's not bad. And they're pretty affordable.

They're pretty durable. I think what ladies like about fishnets over other hosiery is if a fishnet gets a hole, you're still wearing it. Yeah. No, no one cares. Yeah. Where if you get a hole in some nude hosier, they're shot. Mm-hmm. So I think that the ability to put in the last a little bit longer.

I've worn sheer text. Shear text, panty hose, great for wearing under your clothes to work. They're heavier. They don't run. But they don't give you that satinie. you know, feeling like you do from some other brands. Right. I found a brand online.

Funny enough, advertising, you know, when you buy something on Amazon, they start giving, they start sending you other things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. They're listening to you, watching. Have you ever seen. Yeah. So I got sent this, advertise for this one brand called Silky Toes. Mm-hmm. What's great about Silky Toes is for 20 bucks, they send you two pairs of panties. So it comes in two packs.

Right. So you go's a shot. They're durable. They're affordable. They don't run easily. Mm-hmm. And they give you that nice sat-me, you know, when you rub your legs together or your feet together, everything.

They give you all this stuff a lot of hosers like. Yeah. And for me, because I'm a bigger guy, I tend to shop for stuff that carries larger sizes. Right. Because you're typically buying hose for yourself. from a place that's selling to females, right? It's not like a place that specifically sells to guys. Or because there are men's pantyhose that they sell.

There are men's pantyhose, but what I'm finding are a lot of these newer startup companies are marketing where they have male models. Yeah, I think it's so smart. Kara Hosery has male models on there. There's one out of New York that seems list called La Belle. Yeah.

Labels. They have male models on their website. So these hosery companies are realizing, you know what? You know, I got some women that are buying, but there are men out here who are also buying. For sure. Why not include that? Yeah.

So they're including it. They're marketing towards men. I'm a believer that the hosers and the cross-dressers and drag queens of America are keeping the U.S. hosery business. lot. Right. You're right. So these companies are started.

Ten years ago, you have never seen any Hojury Company marketing to men. Right. So now you see Hojury Company's marketing to men because we have a dollar and we're buying in the past when we were buying them for our wife, for our girlfriend, or our mistress. No, we're buying them for ourselves. Right. So I wonder that. I had a guy on who had a guy who had a guy.

guy he was buying from down in Florida. I've always tried to get this guy on my show, but he, you know, knew many, many, many years ago that there was a market for men. Now, listen, as common of a fetish it is, it's still a, you know, a small amount of people compared to the majority, right? It's not the majority of guys out there are into host, but there's a lot. As far as in the fetish community, to me, there's so many. It was always like what I would see the most. That and put fetish people in Craigslist. But, you know, he was smart. Many, many, many years. ago he was selling two men. He was a guy out of Florida that had an online store because he knew, but you're right. Like now, like everything else, that people are just so much more open-minded and

inclusive. And so I think that they also feel like it's more accepted to be doing that. I feel like maybe those same companies knew, you know, 10 years ago that guys were wearing and they were selling to them. But they didn't have the balls to put it on their website. But they didn't have the balls to put it on their website because maybe they would feel like there could be backlash. So I just think this awareness of everything and inclusivity is helping stuff like that. You know, so big companies, you know, so now you have these little companies do it, but eventually you're going to have big ones. Somebody told me, my hoser said they saw a skims ad with a guy in it, you know? I mean, listen, there's no one smarter about making money than the Kardashians, right? So of course they would know

that they should do that and could do it because they're not going to get backlash for anything that they do. Oh, no. When I went on the skin, when she first started advertising about that, I went on the website to see. And she actually had verbiage in there asking if you were a YouTube influencer or a Twitter influencer, if you wanted these types of influences, regardless of your gender, reach out to them so that they could set up some sort of marketing tool. Yeah. that's right that's thinking off the cuff and it's thinking outside of the box right off right out of the way you know right off yeah and she's smart because because that exists and people know i mean did you listen i have a i had diane hanson do you know

who diane hanson is yes yeah i had her on my show more than once like twice her episode is out to everybody and then i had a second one only on patreon but i mean she this was a woman that was like very ahead of her times, you know, and really tapped in on this fetish and how much guys were into it. You know, she talks about how, what's her name, Dita Vantis was one of her models that they used all the time, you know, back in the day. And she, you know, took those letters that men wrote in, all these hosers and cross-dressers and people that were into this, you know, like I said, so many years ago when it was very much on the DL.

And she was servicing those people, really listening to them, learning about them and giving them what they wanted in her leg show magazine. And then she went on to whatever. But, you know, I think it is becoming more mainstream. Now, when you are doing, when you are wearing, right, because your wife knows now she won't wear herself with you. Do you ever wear, like, does like you wearing panty hose come into the bedroom? Like for you guys, like do you wear the one you're having sex with her? What goes down? Can you or do you?

Or is it just a strictly like a comfort thing at this point? At this point, it's strictly a comfort thing. Right. But, you know, in the evening, you know, the kids aren't around. And like the two of us are just sitting around watching TV. It's nothing for me to kick my shoes off. She might rub my feet. I might rub her feet.

Yeah. You know, if she's wearing hose or not. I try to be conscious of the fact that, you know, for both of us, touching is still our love language. Yeah. So even if she's not wearing, I never want her to feel like I love her any less because she doesn't. Right. Right. You still like ice cream.

Yeah. I still like ice cream. Yeah. So, but that's a, I have to make sure I make that conscious effort. But there are days when, you know, like the other day, she wore her. dressed to work and she put leggings on under it and I watched her spend like three to five minutes trying to match up black socks with the leggings so it would look seamless and smooth and in the back of my mind I'm going I got a pair of black tights over here you can put on it and do this would not be an issue but why didn't you say it to her because I've learned that that's just it's it does

and in the past that has caused a problem wow so I've just learned not to say anything. How long ago did you give up on like bringing it up? Probably about eight years ago. Right. Eight almost three years ago. And you never thought maybe, you know, because listen, people change because society changes, people's brains change. And sometimes they don't even realize that change is going on. You know, we don't realize how affected we really are by all the media and shit out there. But we are. You know, we're all being brainwashed on a daily basis. So, you know, why not? It's been eight years. Why not try a little bit? Like, maybe she would, she's, you know, because there's no way she's exactly the same eight years later.

And here's the reason why I don't. Yeah. Because every, then I'll get the, you know, we'll be laying or quiet, you know, sitting someplace quietly talking or whatever. And she'll need over and go. I know I don't wear hose the way you would like me to. And I know, um, you would prefer if I did. You would more often and what have you, but I don't. And I love the fact that you don't pressure me on this and you don't say anything if you love me anyway. Right. But why not like having that same conversation with her too?

Like I know like, you know, what about like, okay, she's getting what she wants, which is I don't wear a fucking hose for you, but you love me regardless. Like, but what about like if like what about you? I mean like I don't know. Like why can't you have what you want? Why isn't the opposite true? I look at it as I get to, if I'm going to get up in the morning and sit down

and put toe separators in and put neon blue nail polish from my toes. Right, I got it. Yeah. Right, right. So that's what she gives you. She gives you the freedom to do it for yourself because that's what you're into. But you could never even ask even just like for your birthday or for Christmas. Like you know what?

Why? Like I said, if we're going out somewhere Yeah. We're going out somewhere dressing. Like on an anniversary, we get dressed up or going out somewhere. She'll put them on.

Yeah. But it's a coin toss on whether they go on without a complaint. Uh-huh. Usually it's, you know, it's the, or I'm so frustrated or, you know, I've ruined a pair or this, that, and you know, it's the grumbling and griping. I'm telling me the only time.

I got a week of her wearing hosiery, and there was no grumbling, no bright thing. Like I said, I treated her to Europe. And she wore them for the whole seven days we were there, and she never grumbled, right, or anything. The only thing she mentioned was how shocked she was, how many women were in skirts and heels, riding a bicycle around Central Europe. Yeah, right, right. That is way more European than here, for sure. Yeah, but that was it.

other than that, it is always a comment. Does she know you're on FetLife? No. How far do you take your FetLife account? Like, is it just you talking with people? Do you ever, like, you know, start sexting with them or camming or sending picks back and forth? I mean, do you have, like, online, you know? I've never, I've never cammed with anyone or anything like that.

I do have hosier friends that. talk to when we chat we talk about stuff. I have, um, because there are women and people who will sell what we call seasoned panty hose where they'll wear them for 24, 48 hours or whatever. I bought a pair of those from, from a lady. And, and, and then some, I was, I was telling the lady, I was so honored that she was willing to wear them for me, even though I was paying for it. But just the idea that I asked and a woman warm just, you know, just kind of touched me a little bit. If she knew about that kind of stuff, it would probably break her heart. Right.

Right. Of course. Yeah. I mean, listen, it could be a lot. I've heard a lot worse, okay. So, I just don't understand why you have given up on, like I said, just getting her to do a little bit more. for you besides allowing you to wear. Do you know what I mean?

Like, you're like, you know, there's no reason to be in the desert when you got a girl right there who loves you. You know. And that's part of it because I feel, I feel guilty at times. Yeah. In order to get my fix or fill of what I need, I have to go online and look at someone else. Right.

But you have a girl right in front of you that you could just start working on again. I don't know. Like, I mean, can't her mind be changed? In 25 years, I think I've seen her mother wear hosed two or three times. So I think this is a situation of her mother wasn't a lady who wore him a lot. Yeah. And I think some of that is a factor, you know. Wait, what was the answer to the fat life question?

Does she know you have a fat life? No, she doesn't know her fat life. Right, right. Right. See, and that would be like, so like to me, if she was my friend, right, and pretend she, and the scenario came where she found out you had a fat life and she, you know, and she came to me horrified my friend, my girlfriend, like, oh my God, my fucking guy, you know, I found out. He's like, and I always knew he was into hose and I'd be like, well, did you, you know, I would ask questions, you know, and when, if I got the story that like, you know, this was something that you were into that you brought to her and she was always like shutting you down. I'd have to say to my friend, like, okay, well, like, maybe you should start giving this to your husband because there is that aspect to it, you know, that, um, so instead of like getting to that point where she would ever find out, like, I think you should continue to try to bring this into your relationship. I think it will help if society changes and girls are wearing hose. And I'm telling you, I see it more

out there, tights and interesting different hose being worn by people, you know, but I, I don't just see why you can't continue to try to get your girl to do it. I don't know that it's a problem for you. I just think like, why not? Because like I said, it's, you know. What I find interesting is out of her girlfriends, the ones that she's really close to and talk to and hang out with, all of them are vehemently opposed to it as well.

Right. Well, that's the problem. Girls follow each other. That's the problem. Yeah. So she had, I know she has friends where I remember. one of her friends was getting married and it was a whole bunch of ladies sitting around talking about what they were going to wear.

Yeah. We're all going to wear periods, right? And they were like, no. She's like, why not? It's just like you said, it's makeup for your legs. You'll look flawless. It's your wedding day. You want to look your best.

Yeah. And they were like, nope, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not doing that. And they, that was it. What I found interesting was the whole wedding party was bare-legged. but most of the brides, family members who were older than her, it's a wedding. It's a formal occasion. They all came.

Totally. The younger generation didn't get that memo because they grew up in a different time. That's what it is. That's what I mean. The trend has to shift. And once it did, like your wife and would hop back on it. But that's what women do. They try to stay in fashion.

They look around. They do what they see. You know, they do what their friends are doing. You know, therein lies the problem right now, but I do think things are shifting, you know. But I mean, just in the bad room for fun, would she put on like a thigh highs with you or anything like that? My wife thinks that a t-shirt and leggings is a lingerie. So it's not going to happen. Okay, forget it by your wife.

Lost cause. Okay. But I find interesting is something. of these young ladies that are all of a sudden on YouTube and all these other places and they're doing all these hosier reviews. Yeah. One of it, I think, A, some of them started off because they got a little attention from guys. Yeah.

Or they were doing it. They were doing some sort of fashion review and they brought up hosiery as the topic and it got more likes than anything else. And, you know, of course, the algorithm and you get paid for the more likes and subscribers you get. Yeah. So I think some of them transitioned into it that way. But a lot of them definitely admit that they found that when they wore hosier, they got more tension. Yep. I have, my hosers want me to do this.

And I'm like, I promised them that I was going to do it. And I'm going to do it when it gets warm. And, you know, that's like in the three weeks from now, four weeks, but that I'm going to go out. I live in New York City. So I could, you know, walk a block and pass by, you know, hundreds of people. And, and wear different types of hose. Like one day tights, one day nude, one day. you know, and do an experiment and notice and see what I notice.

You know, do I notice guys checking me out more? Do I notice what you said that like guys will be instantly attracted if you wear them, you know? And what's the difference if I wear black compared to nude compared to tights? You know, I'm going to do that science experiment for my hosers on my Patreon coming soon, you know, and I'm interested in doing it because I like human nature stuff, you know. That's why I do my show and talk to random people for seven years because I love peeling back the layers. I love learning about stuff.

And I love, like I said, human nature. And there is this whole thing that women don't know, like you said. I'm excited to find out what happens. But I want to understand something. There's a group of guys. There's a group of hoses out there that they may never walk up and say anything to you. Oh, yeah. No one's going to say anything.

The days you wear, you're going to be. bank material for them. It'll be something that'll take home and think about. Oh my God. That's so funny. I was just talking to someone the other day and I was like, you know, one of my guy friends, I remember once saying, you know, Kathy, the difference between guys and girls are like a guy's walking down the street and he sees a girl across the way and like the wind blows and it blows up her skirt and we just see her leg even for one second like we'll go home and jerk off to her. You know, and I was like, oh my God, I live in New York. I'm like literally walking around like a piece of meat at all times. You know, I'm older now, so maybe not as much, but like, I still look good. And you're like, oh, I remember thinking to myself, like, how many guys that I don't know have, like, jerked off to me, you know? So what you're saying is like that week that I wear my panty hose, like, it's going to be, that's what I'm going to be that jerk off material again.

So funny. And, and like I said, if you hear somebody with tomorrow, I want to be desired, I want this and I want that. And then guys tell them and they're like, you know, I'm not wearing that. Yeah, it makes no sense. Because it's not like I'm asking you to wear, you know, six-inch platform heels that you can't walk in or anything else. Hojury is a pretty much a staple of almost everybody's wardrobe. Yeah, but I'm just going to tell you this because I know a lot of girls

and I've always, as much as I've had a lot of guy friends, I've had a lot of girlfriends. And I just remember sometimes like trying to help my girlfriend. Like when we would go out shopping and I'd be like, oh, don't wear that. Like wear this. And they'd be like, no, I like this. And I'd be like, you know, who's going to like that like your grandma or your mother? other, like, but like no guy is going to like that. You know, a lot of times the problem is, is women are

dressing for other women, you know, they're looking in the magazine. They're like, oh, that's what I should be wearing because it's, but they don't get that maybe it's not hot. They don't care about what guys like. Do you know what I'm saying? They're not dressing for men. They're dressing for women. And therein lies another problem for you as a loser. Because there's a group of women I hear that totally anti it and they're the ones that are writing the articles and they're the ones you know I've read articles with

these people in these fashion magazines and they say like well I decided to wear a panty host for a week to see what happens and these women talk about all these horror stories and it makes me wonder so what did you do like jump off a table into them? How did you put them on?

Yeah. No I'm going to give the honest truth about that. I won't be skewing that. That's bullshit if they had a horror story. same girl that used to dress for her grandma when we went shopping. And like anytime she wore an outfit that I forced her to buy, she would get like people honking at her, dormant hating on her. And she couldn't believe it because she was never had that happened to her

because she was always dressing in the opposite way. When I dressed her up to make her look like sexy. And she liked it, but she didn't, you know, but it wasn't like her go-to. But I do think that there's a difference, you know. Yes. But I do think that that's, that's the problem, you know, I don't know, whatever.

And your problem is your girl won't wear, but you have your Fet Life account. I think that that's great. I love this episode. I mean, you know, because it's like we just really talked about a lot of bigger picture stuff, which is like I think really interesting. And I love like your analogies. Like I said before, I'm probably going to air this on my fetish Fridays because I think, you know, I haven't, I just started my fetish Fridays.

And I haven't done the Paneos fetish. I do so much on my Patreon with it that I, you know, I haven't, and I'm so focused over there that I haven't had something, you know, I normally put my content there. But I'm going to put out a really great Panyos episode. This is going to be one of them. It's going to come out on my fetish Fridays. I love your story. I love your analogies, you know. I.

I'm happy for being here and allowing us a hosers to vent. Yeah, no, that's cool. And listen for other hosers that want to get more exclusive content, I'm just giving my Patreon a plug, because people are going to be listening, just like you heard episodes on YouTube. This is going to be the full one. It's going to be up on YouTube. Fetish Fridays, Panty has episode, probably not this Friday, because I already have my one out, but not I do it every other Friday. Probably the next Friday that comes up, I do it. It's going to be out there. People on YouTube are going to be, you know, commenting. So maybe if you're on YouTube, you want to comment back to them and talk to them. If people want to want to, want more Panios exclusive content, join my Patreon, patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. But thank you so much for calling in. I'm so glad you found my show. Like I said, I love, you know, your intensity and how you explain things about your fetish. I think so many people, other hosers are going to love this episode because I think you will have put words to feelings that other people have and they'll be able to connect with it. You know, and I think that That's always great.

Thank you. And that's what doing my show is all about. So thank you, Russell. Thanks so much for calling in. And like I said, this will be on my Fetish Friday's episode. Thank you. Bye-bye. Hey, everyone.

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