Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 472 - Veronica Slept with her Husband's Best Friend

Episode Date: April 10, 2022

Veronica slept with her husband’s best friend and she called in to talk all about it. When did they start sleeping together? Why did they eventually stop? Did her husband ever find out? Tune in to find out plus hear all about all their threesomes and foursome when they first started dating, the fivesome they had that turned into a train, her many lesbian experiences in high school, how they decide to open up their relationship again after they were married, why they never for nd any couples to hook up with, how long she was sleeping with her husbands best friend and where they would go to cheat, how she continued to cheat on her husband and exactly what went down with the guys, how he eventually found out she was cheating, how she feels about her husbands best friend now and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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sing to my child anymore because he's like sex, but I fucking singing to you guys. I don't know why but I can't stop anyway today I have on Veronica now Veronica isn't interesting it's such an interesting episode because she had this thing that she said when she wrote in that you know she wanted to talk about which was current and this was like this thing that was going on with her husband's boyfriend from the title you get that she fucked her husband's best friend okay they wound up having an affair it was right around the time she got pregnant so she didn't know well she kind of knew but you know there was a little like what if it was his baby, but they stopped sleeping

with each other after that. They're kind of attracted to each other now. She has some issues with her husband. Now, she cheated on her husband. She did a lot of stuff before she fooled around with her husband's best friend. And all of that takes place in the beginning of this podcast, which is, you know, the fact that her and her husband,

there was a lot of alcohol going on when they met. They met early on in college. And they had a lot of threesomes foursums and five-sums. She had a train that she talks about and she goes very, she's very explicit about that train. She was hooking up with other women a lot. She talks about, you know, her first hookups with girls in high school and all the lesbian sex that was going on there. And then, like I said, she gets to the fact or the time where she starts hooking up with her husband's friend. It was around the time that her and her husband wanted to open up their relationship. They

went on to Ashley Madison looking for couples. She talks about what happened with that. Then she talks about the whole scenario that went down with her husband's friend. And then somewhere later in the episode, it turns a little dark. Like, I mean, there's a little serious thing that went down with her husband that you'll hear about. That was not cool, that she's still upset about. And we talk about that. That's where things like, you know, make a very left turn in this podcast episode. And then we get back and then it takes another left-handed turn. And we We talk about how her husband now is making her squirt, how she started squirting, how she feels about squirting. She also mentions how her husband caught her cheating because I said she was cheating.

And she goes into those couple of scenarios. It's like a few scenarios of her cheating. She talks about those as well. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Veronica. Hi, Veronica. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm great.

How are you? I'm good. So I know a lot about what we're going to be talking about because, I mean, just like the sort of bullets. But then there's like, okay, so you're like a woman who has done a lot of stuff in her sex life. Like you're like from swapping to threesomes and foursums. Like you've done it all. We're going to talk about all of that. And then, but you said what you really want to focus on or eventually get to, and we will eventually get to,

the fact that you have some sort of situation going on. With your husband's best friend. Now, let's not give it away just yet. I like to sometimes even leave, like for me, I want like save the best for last. Like I don't even know what that situation is, you know. But let's first get to like all this crazy stuff that you did, I would assume, leading up to that, right? And then we'll get to that surprise of whatever's going on.

This is what I think. Okay, I'm just going to tell you my guess, but don't tell me if I'm wrong. Okay. I think that, you know, maybe through all the swapping. and stuff like you guys started hooking up with his best friend and now like you find yourself like into him and you guys are seeing each other on the side. That's my guess but don't tell me whether I'm right or right.

Okay. Okay. Okay. So all right. And I really don't know. I'm not lying right. Okay. So you're married, I'm assuming. Did all of this swapping and five sums and foursums and all that should take place when you were married or was this before? Like let's start when you started to go, you know, when you started to do all this stuff.

Right. So this was actually when we were dating back in college. So this probably would have started around 2008. I would have been probably like 18, 19 maybe. It always involved alcohol. And essentially it's just it'd be people that we know like from our little groups. Yeah. And it would just be just, you know, drinking. And then one thing led to another. And then I'm making out with the girl. Then my husband comes, or not my husband, my boyfriend at the time would come up. And then he would join in. And it was a lot of fun, honestly.

It was just very free and open. We really didn't get jealous at often. But so there was one time we had the three son where I went up to her and started kissing her. And then he kind of came in and got a little involved. And the next thing we know, he's fucking me. I'm fucking her. So that was one instance. But we've done actually a fivesome before.

And what ended up happening was at the time my boyfriend, he will call him John, but he was living with his high school friend who was a female, but she happened to be into girls. And so when we were going to college, I invited one of my friends who was the very first girl I ever had sex with. And that was in high school, actually. Oh, we're going to have to get that story too, but okay, keep going with this one. And so she came up to visit me. and brought her boyfriend with her. And at the time, she was with guys and girls, just kind of doing her thing.

And once again, the alcohol starts flowing. And we just, I start making out with my friend from high school. And then we kind of start making out with my boyfriend, John, his roommate slash friend from high school. And literally, next thing I know, it's like a train. So it was so, it was. is John fucking me. Mm-hmm.

I was down on John's friend. We can call her Becky, I guess. Yeah. I was going down on Becky. My friend, we can call her Amy. She was going down on Becky as well. And we're kind of like, the three of us are kind of like doing our thing. And then behind Amy is a guy named, I don't know, Jose.

We'll call him Jose. Right. That girl, your high school's friends, boyfriends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he was like basically fucking her from behind. And none of the men would fuck like another woman.

Like it was just basically our pussy with our man. Yeah. But the women were definitely having some fun for sure. Like going down and some like nipple licking and all that fun stuff. I can also tell that high school story as well. Yeah, tell me that one real quick. I'll remember to get right back on track to like what happens after the spice them. So yeah, that girl, that was the first.

girl that you had sex with and it happened in high school and what went down so a bunch of my friends and i and are like little girl quick yeah they were just really free and you know they just fuck each other they take showers together but they also have like their boyfriends it was just a very cool free kind of thing and that's pretty much how i am today really yeah but anyway so i was telling amy so the girl that we had the fives him with i was telling her i'd never been with a girl before and She's like, really? And I'm like, yeah. And we were at our other friend's house.

We can call her Megan. We're at Megan's house. And she's like, well, let's go to the computer room. So we go down the hall. We go to the computer room. And she's like, sit down. And I'm like, okay. So I sit down.

And we're probably just to get an age range, like probably 17, maybe 18, possibly 16, between those three years. Yeah. And the next thing I know, like my either of my school. or my pant. I can't remember which, like, basically came down and then she starts to go down on me. And it was kind of tickly at first, to be honest, because I would never been with anybody sexual before. And I guess she was my first. Oh, not even a guy. You had never even been with a guy. Right. Okay. Yeah, no. Oh, my gosh. I didn't realize that until no. But yeah, she was my first.

And it was kind of tickly, but then I got kind of into it. And literally the next thing I know, like I'm starting to come and meanwhile the whole door the door is open so anybody could be like her dad could walk by like any of the girls could walk by like our friends but anyway so I start to come and I'm like literally scratching her back as she's down there and I'm like oh my goodness and so like throughout our high school years and even when I was in college and I go back home to see her we would still occasionally like hook up right together or with our other high school friends from high school yeah so it was just one big lesbo party that was going down in that high school did anyone know about it or did you just kept it to yourself well our friends knew about of course but none of the parents knew there was actually one time where like all of us girls or had to be like five of us and then they would bring some like friends that are boys or maybe even boyfriends and they'd bring their friends anyway and next thing we know like at one of these like big fun you know parties that we'd be drinking at like next thing i know like we could one of us would have a nipple out one sucking the nipple one sucking the nipple and and the boys just like, whoa, like watching this go down.

And then I was kind of sheltered for a little bit leading up to all of this. And so one of the men, or the mountain men, the boys said, I'm going to save this from a memory bank. And I looked at my friend, I'm like, what's a memory bank? And she had to explain what a memory bank was to me. Yeah. He might still use that to this day. Okay, so let's get. So you started fully remember with girls early on.

You're hooking up with them throughout all of high school. this girl now you do this five some with your guy now i mean you're all drunk and everything do you guys ever discuss like i guess because you're young people when they're young don't really think things through as much i mean did you guys ever had any kind of conversation about the fact that you guys are you know hooking up with all these other people do you have any rules or regulations or there's just no jealousy going down so you were like it was like a free for all no jealous well there was a slight jealousy thing that my friend amy actually reminded me of like a couple of spag but for the most part, it was free fun. Now, when the jealousy did come up, it was actually on my side. Right.

And this was high school. And I had one of my ex-boyfriends come down from Kentucky. He brought another girl that I knew. So it was all cold. And they were just kind of like hanging out. And next thing I know, like Amber, or not Amber, that's her real name. But next thing I know, Amy and I are, you know, getting it on again. And then the other girl from Kentucky is starting to get in on it. And then I felt like, really out. And so I think I did get a little bit jealous like in that situation and she actually just reminded me of that

like a month or two back. Yeah. So there might have been but for the most part I mean with your with the guy the guy that you were with I'm back to like when you're you know after that 5-7 year with this boyfriend who winds up to be your husband. I'm saying that you guys are like

you know it's a free for all with you guys very early on while you're dating. Is there any kind of jealousy that ever came up or conversations that you had about what you were doing? No formal conversations. I do remember one threesome with a girl from his work. I did kind of get jealous a little bit because I felt like he was more focused on her than including me.

But I've come to realize I kind of like it now and watching him or imagining him with someone else. So that's certainly changed. But at the time I was jealous and I was like, hey, I could just involve me more next time. But no formal conversation now. Okay. So you're having these five sums. You guys are still dating.

You're not married yet. So now take it back from there, your story. So during college, it kind of died off a little bit. And we stopped with the foursons and all that. And I kind of did cheat on him a little bit throughout college because I just really wanted to fuck. Like, to me, fucking versus like loving someone's completely two different things. And I just wanted to have fun.

And I don't think you really truly understood that at the time. well you were having fun in front of him why would you feel like you couldn't do it like was it only you were only hooking up with men so i mean with women so you didn't think he'd be down with you being with other men yes that was it actually okay okay yeah and so and a lot of this was like alcohol induced i've cut back on alcohol a lot actually but a lot of it was alcohol and dues like at parties and stuff but probably about so we got married and then i would say about four years into our marriage, so we're fast-forwarding a little bit, we decide, you know what, let's open it up, you know, and I was like starting to peak as a woman in my sexuality. So I was becoming a lot more sexual and just wanting to fuck all the fucking time. And he's like, cool, let's do it. And so we sign up for Ashley Madison. And I, my biggest mistake, number one, using my personal email, because that's been sold off now.

all right okay so definitely used a fake email so we signed up for that and we found a couple that we were going to swap with and so you know it's completely open he had access to the profile though I think he pretty much let me take care of that and then we found that couple and he he got the man's number and so but I didn't talk to the woman at all basically the men once I found the person the men were communicating with each other. And they actually put up for coffee and to talk about, or maybe it was beer, I don't remember, but they met up alone with each other just to kind of like talk about it and maybe set the roles and show each other's, you know, side pieces or well, I wasn't his side piece, but he had a side piece. Yeah. He was married. But, um, but yeah, so they, you know,

showed pictures and all of that. And I asked my husband, John, I was like, what does she look like? And she was like, I think fair-skinned, red hair, big voluptuous breasts. I'm more like a blonde hair, blue-eyed, tan kind of thing. And I'm like, ooh, that's kind of hot, you know. And then the guy, he was kind of hot. He was like a heart doctor. I'm like, well, that's kind of hot too. And we were going to meet up and we were going to swap.

And then for one reason or another, his girl was having issues with her husband and couldn't really eventually meet up. And so we're still trying to, you know, see people and see people. Now, in the middle of this, this is where the friend comes in. And we're going to call him Mario. And so Mario's coming around a lot more lately because he lives right down the road. And Mario and John have been friends since college as well. They probably became friends like around 2007-ish.

And I met John, like around 2006. And so we've known each other for a long time. My kids call him like Uncle Mario. That's kind of how it is. Right. And so he's coming around. He's playing video games and his friend keeps staring at me. And I'm just like, it's just kind of odd, you know?

And then I'm just picking up with little flirtatious vibes. In all the meantime, John and I on the side are trying to get like someone else to come into the relationship, boy or a girl. And Mario ends up coming to my daughter's birthday party. And I'm just getting like these vibes that he keeps flirting with me and flirting with me. And so one night, John and I are having sex. And we're talking about adding like a girl into the mix and he comes in me. Well, I end up getting pregnant with my first child. And so what happens is he's like, well, I don't feel comfortable you, us doing this thing now that you're pregnant.

You know, let's just put a stop on it. But I didn't want to stop. I wanted to keep going because I'm like still like evolving sexually like it just keeps magnified. I don't know if you ever dealt with that when you're growing up, but it just magnifies as you grow older. And on top of that, I have the pregnancy hormones now and all of that. So I'm like corny as fuck. So I decide I'm going to keep going. And one time.

So he comes in me, we get pregnant. A week later, I have sex for the first time. with his friend. Without him knowing it. How did that happen? So we were drinking at the house. And it's been a lot of sexual tension between Mario and I leading up to this. And my husband would always go to bed early.

And he had gone to bed early one night. And I decided I was going to stay up. And so he's like, that's cool, whatever. And we end up, I'm like trash. I get me trashed. And I look at him, I'm like, let's fuck. He's like, are you sure? And I'm like, let's fuck.

And so we end up fucking about every day for about a year. Throughout your whole pregnancy. Now, you were drinking. You said it just happened when you were drinking. You're drinking while you're pregnant? Well, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm getting my time mixed up a little bit.

This actually, we ended up fucking before I was pregnant. Okay. Because what ends up happening was the last time that Mario and I did fuck, he came in me too. And that's when I was like, oh, my gosh, he's kid. I'm on board control. But before that, leading up to it, we had fucked for about once a month or a year. Okay. Without your husband knowing.

Now, are you and your husband at this point? So the whole thing about you guys getting another person to come into your relationship is off the table because you got pregnant, but you were still cheating with the guy anyway. Yes. But, yeah, so the first time, so this is actually before I got pregnant. Yeah. So I had one child and then that's when I got pregnant with second. But leading up to the pregnancy for about one year, I was, you know, fucking Mario.

But the first time that it happened, you know, I was trashed and I was just like, you know, let's fuck, let's fuck. And so we fuck. And we're upstairs. My husband's downstairs sleeping. And so since he lived so close to our house, he would be staying like the night all the time, like every single weekend. And so it probably, you know, we'd have sex one night and then maybe like three weeks later we'd have sex again. Same thing. We'd be upstairs.

My husband would be downstairs, sleeping. Anyway, so the night that my husband came in me and I thought I had gotten pregnant, the week later is when Mario and I had our last sex session. And I didn't realize I was pregnant at the time because it was just a week later and he came in me. Mario did. And I took the plan B pale because I was not about to get pregnant. He came in me. And then about a month later, I found out I was pregnant.

And I was like, holy fucking shit. Who's the dad? because I didn't have any reason to be on birth control except for I should have been, but I wasn't. But anyway, so. Did you have to tell your husband, or did you just go take a test without him realizing? Well, I took a test, and I ended up telling him, like, of course, you know, I'm pregnant.

But the times, from the time he came, my husband came to the time Mario came in me, it was so close, but I was just like, I really do think that it's my husband's and not Mario. Because I did take a plan B with Mario. Oh, okay. But who came in you first? I mean, if you did a plan B, didn't you kill your husband's baby? Or did your husband come in you after him? I mean, it doesn't make sense. Oh, I have no idea how this works. But my husband came in me first. But I ended up pregnant like a month later. Yeah. So I really, to this day, I have no idea if whose it is. I really don't know. Let's go through that though. I mean, how do you not know? I mean, you said that the last time you had sex with Mario was that time. and you said you took a plan B after that. Uh-huh.

Right? So why would you not think that it was his? Why would you be confused as to whose it was if that was the last time? Was that the last time you hooked up with Maria? Yeah. Yeah, that was the last time you hooked up with him. He just kind of, you know, dropped off. I'm sure he thought it was his.

I didn't tell him. I took the plan B pill, but I did. I really don't know. He just dropped off. He has a thing of like dropping off and then coming back like a year later. It's weirdest thing lately. Well, how long ago? Like, where are we at this timeline as far as reality right now?

Like, you're telling me the story. I don't know if this is 10 years ago or six months ago. Like, where are we at now the last time you got pregnant and the last time you and Mario had sex? How long ago was that? Oh, okay. So it must have been March of 2011. Oh, so this is so long ago. So you haven't been with Mario.

a really long time or anybody. Now, let me ask you this after you had all these babies with your husband. I don't think it's that Mario guy's baby because, like you said, you did the plan B after. He's still friends with your husband? Yeah. He's still friends. And the craziest thing is that he has been following us pretty much everywhere we move. When all this was going down with Mario and my husband, we were living in one part of the city.

Yeah. Uh-huh. So Mario ends up moving to another part of the city. just right you know across the city yeah well we end up going over there too but here's the caveat so when we're at that well here we are off at swin city and then my husband i decided we're to move out a little further near his family so they can help us with the children and it's out in the country and he decided he's moving out to the country too right so not only are we like neighbors out in the country he also got a job where i was working not in the same building but with a

in the same corporation. Okay. In the city. Well, now, I mean, listen, because he's friends with your husband. You banged him for like 11 years. But, like, you, I mean, for a long time. And you, and your husband's great friends with him. And he's always over your house.

And he's moving to where you are. Are you guys, like, friendly with each other? Do you feel weirded out by him? Do you guys not have no relationship as far as, like, a friendship is concerned? You know, as far as me and Mario? Yeah. Yeah, we have, like, a friendship. And actually, it's involved a little bit more because my husband's,

starting to become like pretty erratic. So I've had to reach out to Mario recently and be like, hey, if I send you this emoji, can you just like come over and check on him? Because usually he's just been a lot pretty erratic lately. What do you mean erratic? Like negative energy. I've been seeing a therapist. She doesn't think it's a bad situation for me.

What the relationship with the husband? I want to go back to that. So like, you know, you and your husband were on the verge of opening up your relationship. you're the super horny girl like you said you know you had two kids that's where i'm counting at you had two kids now did you and your husband ever since because this was back in 2011 like all this time after this did you and your husband ever go back to deciding that you were going to open up your marriage again like where did that all that sexual energy go and you know where you were like fucking mario and you needed more and more i mean did you and your husband ever pick up from where you left off before the

kids or no So he ended up finding out about my cheating. He found out about... How did you not go there? Okay, start there. What do you mean he found out about the cheating? Back in 2018, he found out, he got onto the computer and saw some messages between me and a college guy. And we had hooked up twice, probably around 2018, 2019-ish.

Or no, not 2019. About 2017, 2018, 2018. Okay, so let's start there. So you have these babies, you're and your husband, don't go to have like any more threesomes or foursums or five-somes. You're still horny. Mario's out of the picture, but you still want new dick. So what happens?

Like, how do you start cheating on them with other people? So I end up going back onto my Ashley Madison website. I kind of pick up on there. And I found, I really wanted to fuck a black guy. And so I ended up finding a guy. in my city. He was a professor. And we had sex a few times, but it was just really weird. So I kind of stopped doing it. I don't know what was weird about it. It just made me like the chemistry or something. Or maybe he wanted something a little bit more and I just wanted to fuck. But it was kind of hot because

he did invite me over to his school. And we had sex in his office. And that was really kind of hot. He was a professor, so it was at a local state college. But we had sex there. I ended up finding another guy on Ashley Madison. And he was actually from a city that I used to live in in another state. And so he was, he was a good fuck. He also kind of wanted a little bit more than what I was willing to give. And I didn't, I just wanted to fuck, you know, I don't know why these guys kept catching killings, but they did. Then there was another guy. I call him Minuteman. He had a big cock and he was good, but he only lasted like a minute. But leading up to that, it would be like very, he liked me to swallow cum. And he would also do like a lot of slapping.

And I was totally end the slapping, but I wasn't huge on swallowing cum. But he was. Yeah, he was. And he actually, when we were discussing like our likes or dislikes and stuff, up and I'm like well I've never swallowed com before and he actually sent me like a video off of corn site teaching you how to swallow cum oh my god hilarious what what what is there to teach i know i don't know so anyway and he tried giving me tips and I'm like okay so I tried it it was okay but it's not my thing um but yeah I fucked him about twice um and it was just I really called a minute fan because he lasted a minute. Oh my God. Did you ever have your black guy? I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was the professor. So I ended up going to his school or his office. Right, right, right. Oh, right. Okay. Mm-hmm. But we did get it. And so you're cheating with all these guys. And what's going on with your sex life with your husband at the time? It's pretty much non-existent. And it's more or less, because when he found out about the cheating, he's like, what was I not doing? And I was like, I wanted attention. And, and, And it's not that I wanted like sexual attention, but I did.

I wanted more like emotional attention and stuff. So I think as a woman, some women might go out searching for that kind of attention. But I really come to realize that a lot of men want to fuck too. And so maybe like that's their form of attention. And that's kind of how it all started with me. So you were getting attention by having sex. But your guy, how did he find out you were cheating? And who did he find he found out you were cheating on Mario and he stayed friends with him?

Well, no. he does not know about Mario at all. Who does he know? Who did he find out about? He knows about the guy in college that we met after college after we graduated. Right. So what happened in that situation? So how did he find out you were cheating? He got onto the computer and saw some of the messages on Facebook. I wasn't a good hider. So he found those out. He knows about him. He doesn't know about the whole truth, though. And then he knows about the guy from the same city in another state that I was.

was from. And so he knows about him. He knows about probably half troops of it, quite frankly. But I mean, it is what it is? It was, well, what do you mean it is? Like, what was that conversation like when he busted you? It was very dramatic. He wanted me to stop drinking. And I did. I mean, I really did need to stop drinking. I was probably drinking a lot more during that time than I ever had in my whole entire life. It was just, it was loud. And it was just a lot of resentment. building up. I think that's pretty much where we are today. It's led to divorce because it's just, I don't think he's really truly

have gotten over it, to be honest. But he decided to stay with you. Yes, he did. And then did you continue to cheat on him? No, no, I have not cheated whatsoever since then. So now, but your sex life with him for so long has been non-existent. I mean, do you guys have sex and now? Now, it's gotten a little complicated.

leading up to about a couple months ago, we were having sex a lot. In fact, we were getting into like some whipping, like literally one night we were having sex. And I had him like, like, whip me with his belt. And he would start off slow, you know, going to it gently. And I'd be like harder, harder. Like every time it was like harder and harder. So we ended up find a flogger and was using that for a while.

So it was good. It was great sex. And he's gotten a lot better too. but just so many things have happened in our marriage so I don't feel truly comfortable having sex with them. Like what? Well, he did force himself on me. What do you mean?

He was just having sex with me. I'm so sorry I'm crying. He was having sex and I told him no multiple times and he did not stop. Your husband? Yeah. Okay. So that's kind of where we're at right now.

But this was recently, like after, like, but was this like after the, like, you were being into the whipping? Like, maybe he just didn't realize that like, no really meant no. Did you guys have, like, some sort of safe word between each other? Because maybe that, like, those, the BDSM play was taken or was this in like a, was this scenario happened within a context of a fight or something? It was in context of, oh, I think a fight had led up to it. But this was, this was. actually before the whipping. I've been trying to get into more things with him just to give it like that one last whirl.

No, but the thing where he forced himself on you, that was before? It was before the whipping, yeah. Right, but so how did it happen that he forced himself and he didn't listen to you? Like, what was going on in your relationship that would make that happen? Was he, you know, that he wouldn't be listening to you

and wouldn't get off of you when you said no, like what happened in that exact situation? when you really explain that you felt, you know, like he took advantage of you, how did he react? So the fight, there's a fight happening in our bedroom. And I think the door was closed and I think he just wanted to have sex. And I was like, no, no, no, you know, after the fight. Like make up sex? Yeah.

But I didn't want to. Right. And then he forced himself on you. Now what happens after that scenario? because you're like still crying about that to this day. So it's obviously like massively traumatic. After that's over, is that when you guys start with like,

do you start seeing it? Like do you explain to him what happened or do you just keep quiet? And then, you know, it causes a problem in your relationship. So I tend to bite my tongue. So I held on to it for some time. And then I finally, you know, blew up on him and was like,

hey, this is why we're not working out right now. Yeah. Yeah. And he goes, well, he said, he thought, well, I was role playing. that's what he originally said he got out of role playing yeah yeah and so i've been seen a therapist as of lately and last week i had asked like he was giving me some kind of attitude or something but um i had brought up that situation and he goes well if you would have communicated to me

that you said that you didn't want it and say no then i would have stopped and i'm like well i did think no like five to ten times so that's kind of where we're at right now And so that, right, but after that, you kind of brush it under the table and then you're doing this whipping thing with stuff. Like, did that ever happen again after that where you were like, no and he didn't fucking listen? No, not at all. That was the one and only time. That was the one and only time. But that has caused a strain in your relationship because you, that was so traumatizing to you.

And now, do you, when you brought that up to him, have you been trying to work through that? We tend to, you know, to sweep a lot of things under the rug. not great at communicating at all. So it's just more of a, I keep my mouth shut and we don't argue about it. I don't see him wanting to work on it, like as far as communicate with like a therapist or something. I don't see. Well, but you did say that you sometimes have had to call, is it Mario, when he's lately

because he's been a little volatile your husband. Like, what is that all about? So I just think the cheating thing really truly got to him. And he's trying. And plus he had like a little anxiety and the whole COVID thing, you know, just recently I did had just, I'm trying to get steps in place. Because I think I am going to leave him 1,000 percent. I really truly made up my mind. But anyway, so I was just letting him Mario know, like, hey, he hasn't been acting himself lately. If I send you like this emoji, can you just like call him come on over? You know, that kind of thing. Just kind of planting the seed because I'm truly, I'm out of. by myself. All his family's around. I don't have any family around. Right. So planting the sea with Mario in case you need him to help you is what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. What do you see that you're planting? Okay, right. And now does Mario see a change in his friend? Because I think a lot of people were very affected by COVID and you know, I mean, like the sort of effects, besides getting COVID,

the effects of like locking everybody down has been pretty brutal, right? All the things that happen because of that. So you've seen your husband change. Your kids, I guess, are older now. I mean, what goes to, do your kids still live with you guys? Oh, our kids are pretty young. So that's kind of the reason why I'm trying to make up my decision because, you know, it's eventually going to catch up to them 1,000 percent. But they're nine and six. Right. Okay. But I mean, so the cheating doesn't happen anymore. This was a long time ago. Why do you think it stopped? Because he found out it was that, was that enough for you? Do you feel guilty? Like how did you feel when he found out? Well, I think I felt guilt.

I know, well, I know I felt guilty leading up to it. And I'm kind of glad he did find out, to be honest, because it was like a big burden. But yeah, it was, but I haven't been cheating at all since. But he's, I'm glad he found out. Yeah. But why does that make you start crying that right there? Because you were doing something you felt like out of control of yourself and you felt so bad about it, but couldn't stop.

and so that sort of stopped you? Is that what brings out the emotion in you? Like, what... Talk through it. I'm just a little emotional from our previous subject. I mean, you know, that's a serious thing. You should still be in counseling for that. Oh, 1,000% I am, yeah.

You are still? Yeah. Right. And with your husband, I mean, do you feel safe with him in your house? Yeah. When he starts getting like a negative energy, I don't, but I have steps in place to, if we need to leave, I have a place to go and everything.

So I'm good on that front. Right. I mean, like, you don't feel like, I mean, that one time because he was forceful with you, have you seen any kind of other behavior of him being, like, aggressive or physically abusive with you? Not physically abusive, but he has been, like, pretty ragey. And, like, he's literally ripped off a shirt off his chest and punched a wall right after. Right, right. He's never touched you, though, besides...

No. Right. I mean, that, but, I mean, because, because, listen, someone that's going to rape someone, right? You know, you worry about what else they could do, you know? Right, right, right. Yeah, no, that's pretty much essentially what my therapist is saying right now about the subject. But no, he hasn't touched the girls or anything.

He's a fantastic father. It's just him and are, like, super toxic. And his story, as far as that situation, is that he didn't, really understand. I mean, do you believe him? Do you think it was like a miscommunication or did you see that he was rateful at that time and he didn't want to listen and he was actually sort of forcing himself on you? Like, what do you think his intention was in that situation? That's a good question. At first, I truly believed that he thought we were role playing because we do have a tendency to roleplay a lot. Yeah. But when I re, when I discussed it with him again, just recently, he changed his story.

And he said, uh, Well, he said if I would have said no, no, he would have stopped. And I said, well, I did say no like five times. Yeah. Like, you know, so I don't know if I believe him anymore. But at the time, I, once we talked about it after a while, after a while that it happened, I did believe that he thought we were role playing, though. So you don't necessarily think he's the quote unquote rapist that did it on purpose. It just was.

No. But it doesn't take away from the fact that it made you feel that way. Right. Correct. Yeah. It still scarred you because in that moment, you're not talking it out with him, right? So you don't know his intention or any of that shit, right? You're going with your feeling. And at that moment, you're feeling like you don't want this fucking person on you and they are. So you feel totally taken advantage of. Exactly. Yeah, that's important. You know, and then looking back at it, you could have those conversations and talk about it and maybe he could explain what was going on, but it still doesn't take away. It's almost like PTSD. You know, it's like you really do get scarred from that moment. and then it's like it's like just subconsciously in you even if you could rationalize it away right it's still there emotionally because that's what you were feeling that's the emotion you had yeah yeah you still need to be working through that shit yeah i'm 1,000 percent yeah i agree you know and maybe start to you said you have things in place to leave your husband and work through that you know where are you at with the mario thing that's over right that's been over for a while because i felt like when you emailed me, I didn't know if that was happening still now. That's totally over. You're not cheating.

Now what you are currently is a woman that's trying to leave her husband. Correct? Right. Correct. But there are, whenever Mario is around, though, there is this, like, magnetic energy between us that I cannot explain. Right. Like, he'll just, like, stare at me.

Like, he came over for Thanksgiving and Christmas, and the whole time, he was just, like, staring at me, the whole entire time. And at one point, it was like my mother-in-law, me, and Mario is just scared at me the whole time while my mother-in-law and her talking. And like it was just, it's crazy. But we have like this magnetic energy that I just can't deny. So I don't know what's going to happen with that. Yeah.

Well, when you were cheating with him and when you were having sex with him, was the sex really great? I mean, yeah, it was pretty good. Granted, we were drunk. So, I mean, a little bit. You're just kind of like drunk in it. But yeah, for the most part, it was great. And we had great chemistry. We even just have good chemistry talking to each other in general.

So, you know, maybe when he sees you, he flashes back, you know. I mean, when he's staring at you, he could be, you know, visualize. You know, he's seen you without your clothes on. He fucked you, you know. So maybe he's reminiscing, you know, and he wants more. I don't know why he stopped. It was, maybe it was a good thing that he stopped because you seemed to have felt like some conflict with cheating on your husband with all these guys.

And so when it stopped for you, it was actually a good thing because it seems like maybe you couldn't have stopped it yourself. Right. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. I mean, were you at all upset when he ended things? Because, I mean, it seems like you guys are like having sex all this time for a whole year and then boom, it ends. Like, was there like, did you care? Or was your baby just born so you didn't care anymore? Like, I mean, how was it when things ended between you and him physically? I felt a little abandoned by him. And I think that was because still part of me, even though I took the plan B pill, part of me thought, well, what if it didn't work? You know? if it wasn't the baby that what if it was my husband's sperm what if it was his sperm and then what if magically it can be filled it you know so part of me was thinking about that the other part of me was like thank god i don't want to see his face around here anymore kind of thing so it's like 50-50 to be

honest whatever he does come back around you know i am a little happy to see him i am now to this day do you still wonder about your kid whether it's marios or your husband's or do you know for sure I have no idea. My gut says it's really my husband's because I know mannerisms and all it can be learned, but she does look like my husband. Now, Mario, I'm pretty sure he still thinks it's his because on one of the holidays, they were outside playing like my husband, Mario, and the kids. And I was like, hey, Daddy, can you unlock the car door?

And my husband starts to unlock the car, you know, from up on the hill. and then Mario takes out his keys and starts pretending he's unlocking the door. Oh, wow. And he really tends to bond with her a lot more than my other. So I think he, part of me thinks, but then part of me wants to be like, well, you didn't come and ask me or anything. He has still yet to say anything about it. So I'm like, well, maybe this is what you get.

Right. So there was a little bit, I mean, because it was so long ago, you're not going to remember everything, but it does sound like back when that happened when he just abruptly ended it. It was a little harsh for you because, you know, I mean, I get why he did it too. It probably really freaked him out, you know? Yeah. The baby thing. And it probably really freaked you

out too. And then he ended it. But because you guys were together for so long, like you had some emotional attachment to him, sounds like. Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeah, for sure. A little bit. And even if it wasn't just to the pattern of having that person and having that attention and then it was like totally done.

But you stayed friends. He's still there. there's still a little chemistry going on. You're ready to leave your husband. What about your, like you guys were having. You said you and your husband, good sex. Yeah. Even after that horrible experience, you had, we're starting to role play and with all the,

with like whips and stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. No, that's one thing. If I do leave him, I'm going to miss because for some, I don't know if he's been cheating on me, which I don't care really. I would love to see him, actually, with another girl. Like, I think that'd be so fucking hot.

Why don't you tell him that? well I have and then he's like okay well why don't you find me a girl well I don't want to be I want his input too I want him to help pick out you know but he's gotten so good like he can rub me so good and one time oh my gosh you speak of squirting all the time I'm starting to squirt like that's so you're gonna make me jealous now oh really just started I well yeah for the most part if I was doing it before I didn't know I was squirting. But now I've come to realize it's actually that because one time he's like going down on me and his fingers and everything. And I'm usually a wet person anyway. Like when I get turd-on, like I'm super wet. And he, my husband's down on going on me and everything. And then he takes the flogger

and whips my pussy. And all of a sudden, I just see stuff like up in the air. And it was the first time I've ever seen it with my eyes. And I'm like, oh my gosh. And my husband's like, you just squirted. Wow, did it feel anything different? Did it feel amazing? Or was it just like really cool to see? I don't know. I don't know. It was a little bit all of the above.

It was awesome to see and it felt good. Yeah, it was great. Like that night was great. So you had that great sex and that would be the hard thing. I mean, are you still, how old are you now? I'm 34. So you're like you haven't even come to your prime. Okay.

I know that you said your sexuality was just growing and growing. You're like, have you ever experienced that? Yeah, you're going to. experience that again in your 40s. I mean, like, you're not even there yet. You're still so young. Like, what do you do with all that sexual energy? You're not cheating. You're still having this good sex with your husband, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, it's kind of died off since we've been bickering the past couple of months. But, but yeah, it's, when we do, it's great. It's just trying to, I guess, gets there for me as a thing. But yeah, but yeah, go on. No, you go on. I was saying, but what I do

if I'm not having sex with him, I'm like rubbing myself. Even that, like, once a month, I'll rub myself. Right. But no, I mean, it's hard. I think with COVID, I think, I don't know. It's hard not to have, I'm sure there's a lot of couples that the dynamic changed, you know, if you were in a place where you were very impacted by the pandemic. I mean, listen, there are some places in this country where life was just normal.

And there were some places where life was completely not normal. It's not like every single person experienced the same thing, but most people did experience some pretty fucking horrific times for the past two years. You know what I mean? And I just feel like it's really sad because I think a lot of couples if you took COVID and the lockdown out of it, like where would they be now? You know what I mean? Would they have, would they be strained?

You know, and I just think people's mental health went out the fucking window. I don't think people talk about it enough, but people are really losing their fucking minds. You know, I saw a man literally like jump off a bill. and kill himself right in my eyes like Oh my gosh. Yeah and like Pete and then a friend of mine from my work jumped recently and killed themselves. I got wind of that like I mean nobody's talking about the fact that people that otherwise I just personally don't believe that these people would have gotten to the

point where they would jump off a fucking roof if the lockdown didn't happen that no different than I don't think that some people would be getting divorced. Some people wouldn't be acting aggressive. You know all these things are effects of being. going through what we all went through, you know. So, you know, I think you really need to really work on that one situation that happened with your husband that is so devastating for you. I think you really still need to talk about that. It's good that you brought it up here. It's not bad that you cried about it. I think that that's not, you know, that means that you still have feelings about

that that need to resolve and you need to keep working on that so you could release all that, you know, and move on without that baggage. And, you know, I don't know his intention or whatever that is, but let's say his intention wasn't to force himself on you and he didn't really know what was going on. You know, if everything else was good and this is the father of your baby and like he's acting a little nutty now because of COVID, like, you know, maybe you guys can work through things if you just continue to talk about it and maybe go to therapy.

I know that you're on your way out and maybe that's the right thing. I don't know, but I'd like to know where you are six months. You're going to have to tell you. Yeah, absolutely. I would love to update you for sure. I mean, you're super young, you know, when you guys have been together for a really long time. And I think really long relationships sometimes go through really bad times.

You know, you guys, I'm assuming this is like the biggest hurdle in the whole time you've been together. But you've been together a long time. So maybe you will make it through this. I don't know. I mean, I know, you know, you never, I don't know. Do you think you're going to make it through? or do you think it's really the end of the road? That's a great question.

You know, I feel so silly after, you know, he's hidden money from me. I've cheated on him before. It feels so silly to give up all of that if we've somewhat overcame that in the sense. So it kind of feels like you're just giving up for no reason. But, you know, I just don't want my kids to have trauma, you know. The trauma of you guys fighting, you mean? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, you got to work. You got to work on that. But, you know, I think, do you go to a couple counseling together? Well, we tried. And you right? We tried about like a few years ago. I mean, it worked, but I think he's just, since it didn't work at that one specific therapist, I don't think he wants to try again.

But I grew up going therapy. So I'm okay with it. But I don't think he would. Well, you should be in your own therapy. But like, try to get him in because he's going to, he doesn't understand that. Like, if he would just maybe, you know, put the mirror up in front of him and start facing things too. Like maybe your guy's marriage could work out, you know, but it would take not just you looking at things and really trying to work it. He would have to as well, you know, and that

might be the problem. So hopefully you guys can work it out. I don't know, but I'm curious. I think it's sad that like this whole time the past couple of years have like put a wrench in it for some people, you know? And I, even with your husband feeling so vault like you use that word, You know, I think people's mental health is like, not so great, you know, because of all the shit that went down. Because there's like lingering things that have happened, you know, people out of work. Things are more expensive. Like all the other stuff that happened because of it really weighs on people. So, you know, keep me posted.

Absolutely. I would love to. You know, this was like a crazy story. Thank you so much for calling in. And please definitely keep me posted, Veronica. Oh, absolutely. Oh, and can you, do you want to send any picks in? Like people, some girls do.

Anonymous picks. I'm not sure how I feel about that just yet. But if I do want to send some, I'll certainly send some. Yeah, yeah. If you want to, you can't. Yeah, you let me know. And then by the time I air this, I'll know whether you did or not, and I'll leave it on the intro. If there are pictures, I'll tell people to go to Patreon to check them out.

If not, I won't. So no big time. All right. All right. Thanks so much for calling in, Veronica. Absolutely. Thank you, Kathy. Bye.

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